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Whats your point?
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He's probably more of a libertarian by today's standards.
what was that nice speech he gave before leaving office?
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He's probably more of a libertarian by today's standards.
what was that nice speech he gave before leaving office?
Ike had a unique perspective of things, being the supreme allied commander in WWII
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The highest marginal tax rates under Ike were 91% yet somehow the "job creators" still made money
Today just the talk of letting the Bush cuts cut expire, thereby raising marginal tax rates by 3% is tyranny and communism and socialim and god knows what else
Why would the job creators even bother getting out of bed in the morning if they have to pay 3% more in taxes
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The highest marginal tax rates under Ike were 91% yet somehow the "job creators" still made money
Today just the talk of letting the Bush cuts cut expire, thereby raising marginal tax rates by 3% is tyranny and communism and socialim and god knows what else
Why would the job creators even bother getting out of bed in the morning if they have to pay 3% more in taxes
Marginal tax rates don't tell the whole story. There were so many loopholes (and perhaps so much tax evasion) that the tax rates under Eisenhower gathered less revenue as a percent of GDP than the tax rates under Clinton did:
(http://media.hoover.org/images/tax_rates_graph_ranson.jpg%3Fsize%3Dlarge)
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Marginal tax rates don't tell the whole story. There were so many loopholes (and perhaps so much tax evasion) that the tax rates under Eisenhower gathered less revenue as a percent of GDP than the tax rates under Clinton did:
(http://media.hoover.org/images/tax_rates_graph_ranson.jpg%3Fsize%3Dlarge)
No there wasn`t. My grandfather went to Prison because he did not want to pay the 91 percent income tax rate. He said he would rather take the fine (which is what they did at the time), and keep the money and not cooperate. He spent about 4 years in a Federal Prison during that time.
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No there wasn`t. My grandfather went to Prison because he did not want to pay the 91 percent income tax rate. He said he would rather take the fine (which is what they did at the time), and keep the money and not cooperate. He spent about 4 years in a Federal Prison during that time.
Then how do you explain the very low tax revenues as a percent of GDP? Just massive tax evasion?
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Then how do you explain the very low tax revenues as a percent of GDP? Just massive tax evasion?
MASSIVE. You have no idea. Anyone with money was evading as much as possible. Jews were the easy target at the time, with McCarthyism and all. They were the scapegoat for the massive evasion that was rampant at the time.
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MASSIVE. You have no idea. Anyone with money was evading as much as possible. Jews were the easy target at the time, with McCarthyism and all. They were the scapegoat for the massive evasion that was rampant at the time.
So I'm guessing that you are a big proponent of lowering effective tax rates in order to prevent such tax evasion?
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MASSIVE. You have no idea. Anyone with money was evading as much as possible. Jews were the easy target at the time, with McCarthyism and all. They were the scapegoat for the massive evasion that was rampant at the time.
So are you an Ashkenazi?
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I know the Old Man from Pawn Stars always speaks highly of him when someone brings in some Ike related items of that era.
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So I'm guessing that you are a big proponent of lowering effective tax rates in order to prevent such tax evasion?
I`m in favor of abolishing the income tax and replacing it with a National Sales Tax. The only Candidate to campaign on that was in 2008, Democratic Candidate Mike Gravel.
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So are you an Ashkenazi?
Yes!
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I`m in favor of abolishing the income tax and replacing it with a National Sales Tax. The only Candidate to campaign on that was in 2008, Democratic Candidate Mike Gravel.
Actually, GOP candidates who favored abolishing the income tax:
2008 - Ron Paul
2012 - Ron Paul, Gary Johnson (GOP now LP), Herman Cain (before he went with 999)
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I know the Old Man from Pawn Stars always speaks highly of him when someone brings in some Ike related items of that era.
Ike was nominated by the GOP for his popularity. His nomination represented the death of the non-interventionist pro-free market Old Right, which was effectively destroyed by the FDR-era of Democratic vote-buying.
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He's probably more of a libertarian by today's standards.
what was that nice speech he gave before leaving office?
everyone in that time period is more libertarian by today's standards lol...
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Yes!
well that explains your proud picture with the swastika T-shirt.
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well that explains your proud picture with the swastika T-shirt.
It does, but I think Mel Brooks did it better.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ihVXLOWFog4/T49UhUCxRgI/AAAAAAAADF4/w5A7f3srSWs/s1600/Brooks.jpg)
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So I'm guessing that you are a big proponent of lowering effective tax rates in order to prevent such tax evasion?
I am not advocating for this, but if the politicians institute a VAT then the effective tax rate will go as high as they like without the possibility of substantive evasion. Hauser's Law is a highly contingent empirical phenomenon that can easily become history, not a law of nature.
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well that explains your proud picture with the swastika T-shirt.
:o
;D
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Back in those days, we also did not have free trade and still had an industrious manufacturing base. Unlike nowadays, we didn't have to lower taxes to compete with other countries to entice businesses to stay here. Now even states compete with one another to get business, usually in the form of lower taxes(Japanese and European auto makers are everywhere in the SE United States).
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It does, but I think Mel Brooks did it better.
Nice try. ::) I seriously doubt that pic of you was for comedy.
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I love all these delusional left wing idiots sucking Ike cock. had Ike had to pay for Medicare , medicaid, welfare, wic, food stamps, illegals , etc he could not have done those things.
I wonder if the incompetent delusional psychotic left will also suck Ike cock for his Operation Wetback which booted out illegals.
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Nice try. ::) I seriously doubt that pic of you was for comedy.
It was. It was a Halloween costume.
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It was. It was a Halloween costume.
yea right ::) Because spray painting a swastika on a Hanes T-Shirt is an awesome constume lol... I'm sure it went over great with the kids or with whatever party you went to ::)
You're so full of shit. You did that because you wanted to do that. You found out you were Jewish after you did that and now you feel stupid for it... At least be honest. I'd have more respect for that.
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yea right ::) Because spray painting a swastika on a Hanes T-Shirt is an awesome constume lol... I'm sure it went over great with the kids or with whatever party you went to ::)
You're so full of shit. You did that because you wanted to do that. You found out you were Jewish after you did that and now you feel stupid for it... At least be honest. I'd have more respect for that.
All you have to do is a search. I made a thread about making it for Halloween in 2005. How can I "find out" I was jewish when my whole family has been for hundreds and thousands of years including my parents. ???
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Getting back to issues of greater substance - True Adonis, will you be supporting Gary Johnson this election cycle?
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Getting back to issues of greater substance - True Adonis, will you be supporting Gary Johnson this election cycle?
I like Buddy Roemer better.
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Whats your point?
The radicalization of the Republican party over the years.
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All you have to do is a search. I made a thread about making it for Halloween in 2005. How can I "find out" I was jewish when my whole family has been for hundreds and thousands of years including my parents. ???
Abeles is a hebrew name anyway... Doesn't it mean vigor or something of that nature?
Of course it's Jewish. Cain and Abel (es)... Sons of Adam.
Pretty much laid out there.
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The radicalization of the Republican party over the years.
Oh I see, so the democrats have always been exactly the same as they are now ::)
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Oh I see, so the democrats have always been exactly the same as they are now ::)
Why, certainly not.
The Democratic party as you know it today eventually reversed itself in response to the Civil Rights era.
All the racist assholes left in a hussy to become Republicans.
HTH.
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Why, certainly not.
The Democratic party as you know it today eventually reversed itself in response to the Civil Rights era.
All the racist assholes left in a hussy to become Republicans.
HTH.
So do you support Ike's Operation Wetback?
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The radicalization of the Republican party over the years.
Wanting to put an end to the Bush-Obama Era of massive deficits counts as being radical? Count me in!
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Why, certainly not.
The Democratic party as you know it today eventually reversed itself in response to the Civil Rights era.
All the racist assholes left in a hussy to become Republicans.
HTH.
Yeah OK, just make up any history you want ::)
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Yeah OK, just make up any history you want ::)
You don't read much, do you?
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You don't read much, do you?
I'm sure much more than you do.