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17 Afghans beheaded in insurgent attack on party
KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — Insurgents beheaded 17 civilians in a Taliban-controlled area of southern Afghanistan, apparently because they attended a dance party that flouted the extreme brand of Islam embraced by the militants, officials said Monday.
The killings, in a district where U.S. Marines have battled the Taliban for years, were a reminder of how much power the insurgent group still wields in the south — particularly as international forces draw down and hand areas over to Afghan forces.
The victims were part of a large group that had gathered late Sunday in Helmand province’s Musa Qala district for a celebration involving music and dancing, said district government chief Neyamatullah Khan. He said the Taliban slaughtered them to show their disapproval of the event.
All of the bodies were decapitated but it was not clear if they had been shot first, said provincial government spokesman Daoud Ahmadi.
Information was only trickling out slowly because the area where the killings occurred is largely Taliban controlled, Khan said. The Taliban spokesman for southern Afghanistan could not be reached for comment.
http://news.yahoo.com/17-afghans-beheaded-insurgent-attack-party-105555181.html
Just Muslims being Muslims. ::)
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pretty horrible shit. fucked up world.
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The Taliban spokesman for southern Afghanistan could not be reached for comment.
Wait did it go to his answering machine?
Where does the qur'an say behead those who dance?
Man you guys sink lower every day, yet all this disinformation and misinformation does not benefit you nor others.
You are fighting a losing war, face it, and resorting to lying about 1.5 billion people is not winning you any physical fight or spiritual or 'hearts and minds' fight. You are just making yourself look like fools.
What about that christian pastor that the other day nearly killed his daughter and he is a very well known pastor?
How about the british troops that were caught planting bombs dressed as arabs?
Why don't you cry out rage about any of that?
You are clinging onto straws to justify your hatred of Islam and Muslims.
And again where in the qur'an AS YOU POINTED OUT CLAIMING, does it say behead those who dance?
In fact can you even find me a single verse in the qur'an that says BEHEAD?
There are TWO and they are strictly speaking in terms of a battle in a battlefield, because guess what? Swords were the primary weapon of the time.
Today 'modern civilized' people stick behind a computer screen pressing video game like buttons to kill people at weddings, family get togethers. Oh yeah the US does that every day.
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Not bothering to read the posts of someone who is trying to defend MUSLIMS chopping the heads off of people for DANCING.
SUNNI Muslims are responsible for 80% of all terrorist attacks committed by Muslims. Wahhabis like Ahmed = SCUM.
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Wait did it go to his answering machine?
Where does the qur'an say behead those who dance?
Man you guys sink lower every day, yet all this disinformation and misinformation does not benefit you nor others.
You are fighting a losing war, face it, and resorting to lying about 1.5 billion people is not winning you any physical fight or spiritual or 'hearts and minds' fight. You are just making yourself look like fools.
What about that christian pastor that the other day nearly killed his daughter and he is a very well known pastor?
How about the british troops that were caught planting bombs dressed as arabs?
Why don't you cry out rage about any of that?
You are clinging onto straws to justify your hatred of Islam and Muslims.
And again where in the qur'an AS YOU POINTED OUT CLAIMING, does it say behead those who dance?
In fact can you even find me a single verse in the qur'an that says BEHEAD?
There are TWO and they are strictly speaking in terms of a battle in a battlefield, because guess what? Swords were the primary weapon of the time.
Today 'modern civilized' people stick behind a computer screen pressing video game like buttons to kill people at weddings, family get togethers. Oh yeah the US does that every day.
Are you fucking kidding me ::) You can't even bother to condemn these actions by muslims but instead instantly go to defending Islam? LOL, you say we sink lower every day? You have a serious problem when you don't see anything wrong with the state of Islam today. Why don't you start by being honest then maybe people will take you serious and then maybe constructive arguments can take place. At least have the fucking balls to admit and condemn evil shit like this done in the name of Islam. Tell me you're not for this kind of shit? So far you have not done any of that and have the gaul to call us out ::)
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i've already stated what i've said no where does islam say "behead those who dance".
Yet our local resident islamophobes who post these bullshit articles with only one intent right away state you see you see these mozzlems this is what their quran says. SAYS WHERE AND WHAT?
Do I need to say more? What happens in private residencies is also none of any business of a muslim caliph much less some 'force'.
Of course I will defend the dignity of islam and muslims when i see such bullshit hypocricy and distinct evil intention.
Like I said, where is your outrage about the christian pastor who nearly killed his daughter few days ago?
Where is your outrage at the British troops that were caught once not too long ago dressed as arabs setting up bombs (to make it seem like arabs were bombing in iraq).
Where?
Or the same bs with the nigerian articles? Where is your outrage when the nigerians FIRST struck at muslims, burning down villages, raping people, even killing christians who were protecting muslims from the atrocities of these christian thugs in nigeria?
You are intellectually dishonest and I can see straight through you :)
Do you see me wasting time posting bs news articles about a christian pastro raping a student? Or a christian pastor nearly killing his daughter for disobedience? Or christians in nigeria doing honor killings because their daughter was dating someone?
No, I don't waste time in irrelavent and meaningless things that would have a delibirate intention of just slandering chrsitians.
Most of these stories ciruclating have an undertone from christian evangelist websites where they cry and cry about 'save the persecuted chrsitians' evne with FAKE stories and fake photos.. they are shameless... but I try not to waste MY TIME, much less waste time of others looking for such nonsense.
I already posted ONCE the pamella geller (that zionist wench) who made up a whole story (and does all the time) and posts on her blogs/site/facebook about 'christians rise and rise, your brethren are in trouble, the muslims are slaughtering them' and posting a photo of a GAS EXPLOSION while claiming muslims were torching villages.
Please spare yourself and myself the crap waste of time from any of this.
Thank you and have a nice day.
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i've already stated what i've said no where does islam say "behead those who dance".
Yet our local resident islamophobes who post these bullshit articles with only one intent right away state you see you see these mozzlems this is what their quran says. SAYS WHERE AND WHAT?
Do I need to say more? What happens in private residencies is also none of any business of a muslim caliph much less some 'force'.
Of course I will defend the dignity of islam and muslims when i see such bullshit hypocricy and distinct evil intention.
Like I said, where is your outrage about the christian pastor who nearly killed his daughter few days ago?
Where is your outrage at the British troops that were caught once not too long ago dressed as arabs setting up bombs (to make it seem like arabs were bombing in iraq).
Where?
Or the same bs with the nigerian articles? Where is your outrage when the nigerians FIRST struck at muslims, burning down villages, raping people, even killing christians who were protecting muslims from the atrocities of these christian thugs in nigeria?
You are intellectually dishonest and I can see straight through you :)
Do you see me wasting time posting bs news articles about a christian pastro raping a student? Or a christian pastor nearly killing his daughter for disobedience? Or christians in nigeria doing honor killings because their daughter was dating someone?
No, I don't waste time in irrelavent and meaningless things that would have a delibirate intention of just slandering chrsitians.
Most of these stories ciruclating have an undertone from christian evangelist websites where they cry and cry about 'save the persecuted chrsitians' evne with FAKE stories and fake photos.. they are shameless... but I try not to waste MY TIME, much less waste time of others looking for such nonsense.
I already posted ONCE the pamella geller (that zionist wench) who made up a whole story (and does all the time) and posts on her blogs/site/facebook about 'christians rise and rise, your brethren are in trouble, the muslims are slaughtering them' and posting a photo of a GAS EXPLOSION while claiming muslims were torching villages.
Please spare yourself and myself the crap waste of time from any of this.
Thank you and have a nice day.
Hey camel fucker, no one cares.
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Hey camel fucker, no one cares.
Hey child killer and murderer. I care.
PS - Beastiality is forbidden in Islam and in chrsitianity. Keep your perverted lonely hobbies of the time you spent in the desert to yourself you sick scum.
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i've already stated what i've said no where does islam say "behead those who dance".
Yet our local resident islamophobes who post these bullshit articles with only one intent right away state you see you see these mozzlems this is what their quran says. SAYS WHERE AND WHAT?
Do I need to say more? What happens in private residencies is also none of any business of a muslim caliph much less some 'force'.
Of course I will defend the dignity of islam and muslims when i see such bullshit hypocricy and distinct evil intention.
Like I said, where is your outrage about the christian pastor who nearly killed his daughter few days ago?
Where is your outrage at the British troops that were caught once not too long ago dressed as arabs setting up bombs (to make it seem like arabs were bombing in iraq).
Where?
Or the same bs with the nigerian articles? Where is your outrage when the nigerians FIRST struck at muslims, burning down villages, raping people, even killing christians who were protecting muslims from the atrocities of these christian thugs in nigeria?
You are intellectually dishonest and I can see straight through you :)
Do you see me wasting time posting bs news articles about a christian pastro raping a student? Or a christian pastor nearly killing his daughter for disobedience? Or christians in nigeria doing honor killings because their daughter was dating someone?
No, I don't waste time in irrelavent and meaningless things that would have a delibirate intention of just slandering chrsitians.
Like I said, you go straight to defending Islam instead of condemning what these these guys did in the name of Islam. Cut the bullshit and come out and say what these muslims did was wrong. And before you challenge where my outrage has been, you should check my posting history. I've called BS where I've seen it and that has included what we're doing over there including injustices. Right now I see BS in your defense of Islam in the face of shit like this happening. You're as bad, actually worse than christians who ignore what other christians do by just saying that's not christian, in your case saying that's not Islam. Have the fucking balls to admit the problem, then people can talk about what the solution should be.
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Now you're just ranting.
Muhammad (peace be upon him said) anyone who tortures someone in this world will be tortured by God in the next.
All I know is, with all your hatred of muslims and slandering of Muslims, in particular of Islam. I correct you as to what you claim is of Islam and ask you for proofs but you never bring proofs other than news articles from bogus sources or some village in God knows where.
The bottom line is, you've brought more destruction to the world.. and you know what else I realize? Muslims oif the places you've invaded and destroyed pray to God all the time for America to be punished.
You can explain it all day long as weather conditions and calamities, but before even being Muslim, I remember an iraqi woman crying for her whole family being slaughtered by Americans. I swear I remember her cry and prayer of supplication to God to bring and send all the storms upon america. I don't believe in conicidences, of course i dont belive in it now... but America was battered after these wars.
Ever since, I remember constant storms, tornadoes, fires, hurricanes, you name it... catastrophes upon catastrophes. Look at hurricane katrina? And all the others that followed.
Can you not be blind, deaf and dumb like past nations that earned God's anger?
God answers the prayer of the oppressed. This is a promise of God that we are thought in Islam.
You can rant and slander muslims in real life, in your private conversations and on internet forums all day long... but you are only lying to yourself and missing the point.
You are indeed wasting your time slandering Islam and Muslims. My point? I am just delivering the message and maybe someone out there will listen. God says in the qur'an that we are not the ones that guide, only the ones that get the message across and it is God alone that guides.
I can spend all day long arguing with you defending Islam and showing you how you lie and how you disinform and misinform, but you will not be guided except if you intend to be guided by God's mercy.
Islam does not condone indiscriminate killing and like i said and i will close with this. Where in the qur'an does God say BEHEAD those who dance as you've claimed?
You are nothing but sad liars... and then proceed to shower yourself in your own fetish like nature of hatred of Islam and Muslims. Who is the true fool?
I could spend all day long posting articles of what America does to Muslims DAILY... but it would be pointless and a waste of my time. I do have a life although I will dedicate some time to expose the injustices of what you do. HOwever when it comes to islam it is my duty to state what islam says and not what you THINK it says without proof and thus lying and slandering my faith and the faith of another 1.5+ billion people,
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Hey child killer and murderer. I care.
PS - Beastiality is forbidden in Islam and in chrsitianity. Keep your perverted lonely hobbies of the time you spent in the desert to yourself you sick scum.
Hey camel fucker - no one cares. BTW, Im not the one that straps bombs to their children in the name of Allah - thats your peeps.
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Hey camel fucker - no one cares. BTW, Im not the one that straps bombs to their children in the name of Allah - thats your peeps.
I don't know of any of 'my peeps' doing that, however I know 'your peeps' sit comfortably behind a computer screen pressing kill kill kill from remote controlle air planes.
I don't condone suicide bombings, but who's the real coward? You who sits comfortably behind a computer screen killing, or sitting behind multi million dollar planes and weaponery? Or someone who gives up their life or uses low-tech garbage weaponery to defend his land you've invaded?
You kill in the name of who? Satan? The dollar? Mighty capitalism? I am pretty confident you kill in satan's name anything and EVERYTHING that breaths.
Islam does not condone killing of women and children, you call it COLLATERAL damage when you drop bombs. You are a fucking satanist who will rot in the deepest dwellings of hell.
And I hope you get some life threatening STD from all your perverse animal fantasies
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I'm not sure if he's just trolling, a nutcase, a propagandist or a geek with other motives at the pentagon or what? The one thing I'm sure of is that he has no intention of honest discussion here. I'd like to ban the fucker but if you guys want to let him stay it's up to you. If you think there is a legit beef against him posting pm me and let me know.
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For a mod you're a strong troll.
This is what the SUBJECT of this thread said: "Muslims obeying the Koran behead 17 people for dancing"
When I say where in the qur'an does it say this?. You go and divert attention from the original post i refuted.
You're the one that's clearly DISHONEST and has obviously evil intentions against Islam and Muslims. Not the first time you've ganged me with the same bs tactics and your side kicks :)
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Go fuck yourself, scumbag. Got to love a cult that kills anyone who tries to leave it.
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(http://www.longwarjournal.org/images/Lashkar-e-Jhangvi-beheads-shia.jpg)
Lashkar-e-Jhangvi publishes beheading video
The al Qaeda-linked Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LeJ) published a gruesome video on jihadist internet forums that shows the beheading of two Shiites. In a statement that accompanied the video on one of the forums, a jihadist said the Pakistani terror group is part of al Qaeda and the Taliban.
The video, titled "Revenge," was released today, first on the Jamia Hafsa Urdu forum and then distributed on other jihadist forums, according to the SITE Intelligence Group, which obtained the video. The video is the first released by the terror group.
In the video, two Shia men are filmed for nearly half an hour before they are brought outside and seated on the ground with their hands tied behind their backs. Standing behind them are four masked Lashkar-e-Jhangvi fighters; two are holding a red banner with crossed swords.
Two of the Lashkar-e-Jhangvi fighters then pull out knives, and proceed to behead the two Shia men. The victims' heads are then placed on their laps. The jihadists then wipe their knives on the clothes of the slain men.
A jihadist on the Hanein forum, who posted in Arabic, said the Lashkar-e-Jhangvi "is allied to Taliban-Pakistan and has a close relationship with it," according to SITE, which translated the message.
"Most of the operations against the Shi'ites [in Pakistan], if not all of them, are carried out by this group," the jihadist continued.
He also said the group carried out a suicide attack in Afghanistan against Shia last year, presumably a reference to the Dec. 6, 2011 attack that killed more than 50 Shia worshipers outside a mosque in the capital of Kabul. The Lashkar-e-Jhanghvi al Almi claimed credit for that attack [see LWJ report, Suicide bomber kills scores in attack at Kabul mosque].
The jihadist at the Hanein forum also said that the Lashkar-e-Jhangvi "is the Omar Brigade of Taliban-Pakistan as the Omar Brigade of al Qaeda Organization targeted Badr Brigade and others among the [Shi'ites]."
The Lashkar-e-Jhangvi is an anti-Shia terror group that has integrated with al Qaeda and the Taliban in Pakistan's tribal areas. The Lashkar-i-Jhangvi has an extensive network in Pakistan and serves as al Qaeda's muscle for terror attacks. The group has conducted numerous suicide and other terror attacks inside Pakistan. In particular, the Lashkar-e-Jhangvi is well known for carrying out sectarian terror attacks against minority Shia, Ahmadis, Sufis, and Christians in Pakistan.
The US designated the Lashkar-e-Jhangvi as a Foreign Terrorist Organization in 2003. In 2010, the US added two of the terror group's top leaders, Amanullah Afridi and Matiur Rehman, LeJ's operations chief, to the list of Specially Designated Global Terrorists.
In February 2010, the US killed Qari Mohammad Zafar, a senior Lashkar-e-Jhangvi leader as well as a leader of the al Qaeda and Taliban-linked Fedayeen-i-Islam, in a drone strike in North Waziristan. Zafar was behind multiple terror attacks in Pakistan and was wanted by the US for murdering a consular official in Karachi.
Although Pakistan has added Lashkar-e-Jhangvi to its list of terror groups, it has been lax in dealing with the terror group and LeJ's parent organization, the Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan. Last year, a Pakistani court ordered the release of Malik Ishaq, a Lashkar-e-Jhangvi leader who is thought to have been involved in the March 3, 2009 assault on the Sri Lankan cricket team in Lahore, among other attacks. While Ishaq was supposedly in prison from 1997 until July 2011, he plotted numerous terror attacks in Pakistan.
Read more: http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2012/08/lashkar-e-jhangvi_re.php#ixzz24o0RNTE5
Oh look, Sunnis beheading Shias. Color me surprised. ::)
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May God rest his soul, I am not surprised if one of you scumbags did such a thing in Iraq as well:
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Pakistani Doctors Exam Christian Girl With Downs Syndrome To See If She Can Stand Trial For “Blasphemy”
(BBC) — Doctors in Pakistan have examined a young Christian girl imprisoned on blasphemy charges to determine her age and mental capacity, with the results due to be presented in court tomorrow.
Her lawyer says the girl, called Rimsha, is 11 or 12 years old and appears to have Downs syndrome.
She is being held in a maximum security prison after an angry mob accused her of desecrating pages of the Koran.
But her supporters say she has been wrongly accused.
Police say the girl was arrested last week in a Christian area of the capital Islamabad, after a crowd of people demanded that she be punished for allegedly desecrating pages of the Muslim holy book.
It is not clear whether she burned pages of the Koran or was found to be carrying them in her bag.
According to the BBC’s Orla Guerin in Islamabad, Rimsha’s lawyer said that when he saw her in jail over the weekend she wept and begged to be released.
Her parents have been taken into protective custody following threats, and many other Christian families are reported to have fled the neighbourhood.
There are fears that even if she is released, Rimsha’s family will not be safe in Pakistan. Others accused of blasphemy have been killed by vigilante mobs in the recent past.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-19391460
Going to stone a retarded girl to death? You scumbags already hacked up a Christian child for "blaspheming" last week.
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May God rest his soul, I am not surprised if one of you scumbags did such a thing in Iraq as well:
Why should I care when you Muslims do a much better job at slaughtering each other? For proof, see the 2 Shias who were beheaded by their Muslim brothers above. ::)
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For a mod you're a strong troll.
This is what the SUBJECT of this thread said: "Muslims obeying the Koran behead 17 people for dancing"
When I say where in the qur'an does it say this?. You go and divert attention from the original post i refuted.
you won't even say the muslims who do this shit and support this shit are wrong. ::) You just want to say it's not supported in the koran. My guess is that you're a lame ass gimmick created by some fuckhead here because nobody here is willing to defend the state Islam is in today. Either way it's lame and I'm not sure it has a valid place on this board.
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lol and the truth of your arguments shines trully :)
Maybe God will have the mercy to guide you and open your eyes to the foolishness you are into. I do not and cannot read your hearts only God knows what's in men's hearts... but your actions speak volumes. :)
I rest my case.
You are the ones not intereted in discussion, you already have preconceived and forged minds against Islam and muslims and as proven yet again and again you don't care when Muslims suffer under YOUR HANDS but falsely seem to care when true or not, stories about muslims doing strange things then you care.
I guess the pastor who nearly killed his daughter the other day doesn't interest you. Tssk tssk. Anyways I wont waste much more time. Delight yourself. You are only going to fool and cheer equally idiotiic ignorant people such as yourself.
Do you see me leaving Islam because of your lies? No? Will you deter others from Islam? Maybe until they learn about Islam thesmelves not out of your filthy corrupted minds.
Good night and i wouldnt be surprised if you're one of those israeli douchebag trolls that gets paid to slander islam, muslims and arabs and propagate pro israeli agendas for PAY lol.
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Like the typical Muslim, he's quick to blame "infidels" for oppressing Muslims yet he has nothing to say about Muslims slaughtering other Muslims.
CAIR does the same shit. ::)
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lol and the truth of your arguments shines trully :)
YES OR NO... You either condemn these acts or you don't. So far I get you don't. If you give me a line of shit that doesn't include a yes or no, your time here is done.
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Look, people shouldn't dance.
It's God's law.
Who are you to argue with God?
He's God, fuckers.
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YES OR NO... You either condemn these acts or you don't. So far I get you don't. If you give me a line of shit that doesn't include a yes or no, your time here is done.
Have you read this moron's posts on the jizya? It's pretty obvious that he shares the same thought processes as the scumbags who chopped these people's heads off.
He's a hypocrite who won't move to one of these dumps, though.
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i dont know the full story of this story beyond what you utter and it's already not credible.
Like I said you OPEN a thread with a title: "Muslims obeying the Koran behead 17 people for dancing"
I call you out on it, WHERE in the qur'an does it say to this so that they are 'obeying the qur'an', but you swindle your way back and forth and ultimately post more garbage articles. I just did the same to you and you turn a blind eye of the attrocities you actually commit in Muslim countries.
I again will ask politely WHERE in the qur'an does it say this? If you can't answer this yet make a STATEMENT, don't expect me to respond. You are just making yourselves look like islamophobic fools.
From a few of you that have posted in this thread, you openly stated you don't mind the death of muslims, so who am I arguing with? There is no reasoning with people who think like you do.
The qur'an does not instruct believers to behead those who dance, you and I know this very well, I don't know the full story of this, and you have zero credibility on my end considering you've posted fake stories or ignored triggers to certain stories and even posted garbage evangelical news websites as news... please. Grow up.
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Have you read this moron's posts on the jizya? It's pretty obvious that he shares the same thought processes as the scumbags who chopped these people's heads off.
He's a hypocrite who won't move to one of these dumps, though.
You have the picture of a woman shaking breasts, and I bet you'd be the first islamophobe to jump around cvrying 'oppresion of women' and islam, yet not be able to prove anything like thse guys except hate.
What's wrong with jizya? It's a tax about 2% which lets you practice your religion, be protected by Muslims, have your own land, have your own property. Basically citizenship. I pay 30-40%. Seriously? So bad? And the thing is muslims pay around 2% zakat. So where's the injustice.
You're just creating boogey men.
Your enemy is banksters, corporations and those who slander Islam, not Islam or muslims :)
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You have the picture of a woman shaking breasts, and I bet you'd be the first islamophobe to jump around cvrying 'oppresion of women' and islam, yet not be able to prove anything like thse guys except hate.
What's wrong with jizya? It's a tax about 2% which lets you practice your religion, be protected by Muslims, have your own land, have your own property. Basically citizenship. I pay 30-40%. Seriously? So bad? And the thing is muslims pay around 2% zakat. So where's the injustice.
You're just creating boogey men.
Your enemy is banksters, corporations and those who slander Islam, not Islam or muslims :)
Fuck you. Nice of you to leave out the part about us having to pay to be second-class citizens in a 14th century society. Muslims bring nothing to the table when it comes to the advancement of humanity so why would anyone pay to be subservient to you? Protection by you guys? Ha. You have some of the most pathetic armies on the planet and if it wasn't for the US subsidizing them to the tune of billions of dollars a year then they would be even more laughable.
Carry on with your deflection from the fact that 17 Muslims were beheaded by other Muslims for dancing.
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Look, people shouldn't dance.
It's God's law.
Who are you to argue with God?
He's God, fuckers.
Ba-zing.
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I don't know of any of 'my peeps' doing that, however I know 'your peeps' sit comfortably behind a computer screen pressing kill kill kill from remote controlle air planes.
I don't condone suicide bombings, but who's the real coward? You who sits comfortably behind a computer screen killing, or sitting behind multi million dollar planes and weaponery? Or someone who gives up their life or uses low-tech garbage weaponery to defend his land you've invaded?
You kill in the name of who? Satan? The dollar? Mighty capitalism? I am pretty confident you kill in satan's name anything and EVERYTHING that breaths.
Islam does not condone killing of women and children, you call it COLLATERAL damage when you drop bombs. You are a fucking satanist who will rot in the deepest dwellings of hell.
And I hope you get some life threatening STD from all your perverse animal fantasies
Lulz, epic lulz. You don't condone, nor do you condemn. You're right, its terrible to value the lives of your Soldiers over the lives of your enemy, throw them out their in harms way because its somehow more "fair". FYI genius, wars aren't won by playing fair.
Shouldn't you be bombing something in the name of Allah right now? Or do you just enjoy wasting your time typing to a bunch of people that couldn't give a fuck less about your barbaric religion?
Epic. Lulz.
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i dont know the full story of this story beyond what you utter and it's already not credible.
Like I said you OPEN a thread with a title: "Muslims obeying the Koran behead 17 people for dancing"
I call you out on it, WHERE in the qur'an does it say to this so that they are 'obeying the qur'an', but you swindle your way back and forth and ultimately post more garbage articles. I just did the same to you and you turn a blind eye of the attrocities you actually commit in Muslim countries.
I again will ask politely WHERE in the qur'an does it say this? If you can't answer this yet make a STATEMENT, don't expect me to respond. You are just making yourselves look like islamophobic fools.
From a few of you that have posted in this thread, you openly stated you don't mind the death of muslims, so who am I arguing with? There is no reasoning with people who think like you do.
The qur'an does not instruct believers to behead those who dance, you and I know this very well, I don't know the full story of this, and you have zero credibility on my end considering you've posted fake stories or ignored triggers to certain stories and even posted garbage evangelical news websites as news... please. Grow up.
So if its not their religion how do you explain all the fucked up things done by muslims/Jihaddist etc?
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Hey child killer and murderer. I care.
PS - Beastiality is forbidden in Islam and in chrsitianity. Keep your perverted lonely hobbies of the time you spent in the desert to yourself you sick scum.
Lol a sunni muslim calling an american a child killer. Thats funny.
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Wait did it go to his answering machine?
Where does the qur'an say behead those who dance?
Man you guys sink lower every day, yet all this disinformation and misinformation does not benefit you nor others.
You are fighting a losing war, face it, and resorting to lying about 1.5 billion people is not winning you any physical fight or spiritual or 'hearts and minds' fight. You are just making yourself look like fools.
What about that christian pastor that the other day nearly killed his daughter and he is a very well known pastor?
How about the british troops that were caught planting bombs dressed as arabs?
Why don't you cry out rage about any of that?
You are clinging onto straws to justify your hatred of Islam and Muslims.
And again where in the qur'an AS YOU POINTED OUT CLAIMING, does it say behead those who dance?
In fact can you even find me a single verse in the qur'an that says BEHEAD?
There are TWO and they are strictly speaking in terms of a battle in a battlefield, because guess what? Swords were the primary weapon of the time.
Today 'modern civilized' people stick behind a computer screen pressing video game like buttons to kill people at weddings, family get togethers. Oh yeah the US does that every day.
Since we "don't get it", then explain what happened to us.
Are you offended by this crime in any way taking the qur'an issue out of the picture for a second.
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You have the picture of a woman shaking breasts,
That's because he can. And because the woman in the avatar can shake her breasts all she wants. Over here, for us.
If you put something like that in your avatar back home you would be killed right away and so would the woman, her entire family, and anyone that has even laid eyes on her. And you claim we are oppressive?
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All Muslims are good. They never did anything wrong.
God is great!
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Wait did it go to his answering machine?
Where does the qur'an say behead those who dance?
Man you guys sink lower every day, yet all this disinformation and misinformation does not benefit you nor others.
You are fighting a losing war, face it, and resorting to lying about 1.5 billion people is not winning you any physical fight or spiritual or 'hearts and minds' fight. You are just making yourself look like fools.
What about that christian pastor that the other day nearly killed his daughter and he is a very well known pastor?
How about the british troops that were caught planting bombs dressed as arabs?
Why don't you cry out rage about any of that?
You are clinging onto straws to justify your hatred of Islam and Muslims.
And again where in the qur'an AS YOU POINTED OUT CLAIMING, does it say behead those who dance?
In fact can you even find me a single verse in the qur'an that says BEHEAD?
There are TWO and they are strictly speaking in terms of a battle in a battlefield, because guess what? Swords were the primary weapon of the time.
Today 'modern civilized' people stick behind a computer screen pressing video game like buttons to kill people at weddings, family get togethers. Oh yeah the US does that every day.
dude...instead of telling us this stuff, tell the Taliban...thats the problem...you never hear MUSLIMS speaking out against this stuff..what you say might be true because I haven't read the Koran and never ever will....but if you are so concerned, then speak out against stuff like this....but you guys never do because deep down many of you sympathize with this stuff...
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Hey child killer and murderer. I care.
PS - Beastiality is forbidden in Islam and in chrsitianity. Keep your perverted lonely hobbies of the time you spent in the desert to yourself you sick scum.
Dude..you guys worship that book way too much instead of applying common sense.....
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Dude..you guys worship that book way too much instead of applying common sense.....
The Koran predicted everything perfectly and has all the answers to the universe.
I know because it says so in the Koran.
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The Koran predicted everything perfectly and has all the answers to the universe.
I know because it says so in the Koran.
You are on fire today.
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You are on fire today.
If he were in Mooslim terrortory he would be.
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If he were in Mooslim terrortory he would be.
Ba-Zing.
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I've just been looking at some pics of monks burning themselves.
How come Muslis always choose to kill others when they go?
Don't mean it as a flame, just wondering.
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I've just been looking at some pics of monks burning themselves.
How come Muslis always choose to kill others when they go?
Don't mean it as a flame, just wondering.
Because peaceful protest is not teh way of the Muhhammmedddd
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What's wrong with that, everyone know that dancing to music with strangers is a far greater sin than beheading and murder - Geeez people, where talking about the punishment of extreme criminality here. ::) But seriously, that's some fucked up shit, but it's the extremists, I'm with Ahmed, stop demonising Muslims, the USA commits atrocities on a far greater scale and everyone cheers them on like it's a fourth of July parade.
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I've just been looking at some pics of monks burning themselves.
How come Muslis always choose to kill others when they go?
Don't mean it as a flame, just wondering.
::)
Good thing you qualified your mindlessly obvious question with "Don't mean it as a flame"-- We wouldn't want to offend any of the radical Muslims who frequent this board. Nice to know that your a gutless, scared vagina when it comes to the slightest commentary on Islam-- even when it comes to asking stupid questions, yet you bash Christianity every chance you get. Maybe a few Catholic suicide bombings will earn your inherently worthless respect.
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::)
Good thing you qualified your mindlessly obvious question with "Don't mean it as a flame"-- We wouldn't want to offend any of the radical Muslims who frequent this board. Nice to know that your a gutless, scared vagina when it comes to the slightest commentary on Islam-- even when it comes to asking stupid questions, yet you bash Christianity every chance you get. Maybe a few Catholic suicide bombings will earn your inherently worthless respect.
I think you missed teh funny George.
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I think you missed teh funny George.
Not at all. This is probably Sargent Pillow Biters first remotely critical comment of anything even remotely related to Islam. He spends most of his free time waving his shit stained index finger at everyone else and accusing them of racism, sexism, homophobia, islamophobia, etc.
Now, a blatantly indefensible act of brutality earns a-- "Don't mean it as a flame" while in the same thread he posts a graphic making fun of Christianity.
Whether it's supposed to be funny or not, he should be called out on his bullshit.
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::)
Good thing you qualified your mindlessly obvious question with "Don't mean it as a flame"-- We wouldn't want to offend any of the radical Muslims who frequent this board. Nice to know that your a gutless, scared vagina when it comes to the slightest commentary on Islam-- even when it comes to asking stupid questions, yet you bash Christianity every chance you get. Maybe a few Catholic suicide bombings will earn your inherently worthless respect.
I fought in Afghanistan.
Didn't see you there, bro.
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I fought in Afghanistan.
Didn't see you there, bro.
You want a cookie?
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Here's me at the Presidential Palace in 09.
Plenty of us got killed going to and fro.
To take a ride was to risk it all.
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Your bible is just as evil, if you ever care to read it.
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You want a cookie?
Nope. Just a little respect, son.
You either respect veterans or you don't.
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Nope. Just a little respect, son.
You either respect veterans or you don't.
Son?
Sure you get respect for surviving your country, but being a vet does not put you above criticism.
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Son?
Sure you get respect for surviving your country, but being a vet does not put you above criticism.
Whatever that means.
I'm going to bed.
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Nope. Just a little respect, son.
You either respect veterans or you don't.
Should I respect Timothy McVeigh & Maj. Hassan,
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Whatever that means.
I'm going to bed.
What does it mean? Just because you served doesn't mean you can say or any thing you want and not expect to be called out. Clear enough for you?
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Nope. Just a little respect, son.
You either respect veterans or you don't.
The difference between you and HH6 is that he isn't on here begging people to respect him and bragging about his service. Congrats for volunteering, dickhead. ::)
Funny thing is most of the leftists you align yourself with will tell you to your face that you're nothing more than an uneducated baby killer.
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Here's me at the Presidential Palace in 09.
Plenty of us got killed going to and fro.
To take a ride was to risk it all.
Never been a fan of that camo man... glad the Army is going to multicam. That shit doesn't seem to fit anywhere.
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Son?
Sure you get respect for surviving your country, but being a vet does not put you above criticism.
ROFL - Gotta love a man who refers to other men as "SON"
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ROFL - Gotta love a man who refers to other men as "SON"
Don't you have some dogs to run away from, pussy?
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Son, Don't you have some dogs to run away from, pussy?
Fixed.
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Wow...haven't seen this argument before. It's all just a misunderstanding... ::)
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Don't you have some dogs to run away from, pussy?
ROFL - is that the best your small mind could come up with - Oh, how hurtful you are - my feelings are crushed! :-*
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=439360.0;attach=482378;image)
Ive been laughing about this for 5 minutes straight lol.
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ROFL - is that the best your small mind could come up with - Oh, how hurtful you are - my feelings are crushed! :-*
Why would I bother coming up with more? You're a whiny bitch (who runs from small dogs) and not worth the time. I defer to Dr. Chimps and his continued beat downs of you.
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Why would I bother coming up with more? You're a whiny bitch (who runs from small dogs) and not worth the time. I defer to Dr. Chimps and his continued beat downs of you.
I never even pay attention to Getbiggers aliases until they stalk me, I just respond to comments, I am unsure of what "BEATDOWNS" you refer too and who the hell DR.CHIMPS even is. As a man, I am not afraid of other men and most definitely not of small dogs, any man is more than welcome to turn up at my address and perform a "BEATDOWN" as you call it, last time that happened I ended up arrested, but the visitor ended up in hospital. You can try and intimidate all you like, but assclowns like you are just Internet gangsters and nothing to worry about.
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Ba-Zing.
;D
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Ive been laughing about this for 5 minutes straight lol.
As and adult , have you ever read the Bible Rob?
Adam did not only have just 2 sons, so that image above that you find so amusing is false.
http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-c004.html
Genesis 5:4 "Adam had other sons and daughters."
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Bible Believers are the stupidest people, everyone knows if the bible version of events is true, Cain must have fucked his own Mum and humanity was started from Incest - yet the bible condemns Incest - just 1 of the 1000's of contradictions in the bible. Cain was a Mother Fucker
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Bible Believers are the stupidest people, everyone knows if the bible version of events is true, Cain must have fucked his own Mum and humanity was started from Incest - yet the bible condemns Incest - just 1 of the 1000's of contradictions in the bible. Cain was a Mother Fucker
Let me see if I'm following this correctly. You cry about people lumping all Muslims together while at the same time you lump all Christians together. Yup, you're a stupid fuck.
I'm guessing your Aussie via way of Pakistan or some other shithole. It would explain your fear of small dogs.
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Cain was the first child of Adam and Eve recorded in Scripture (Genesis 4:1). His brothers, Abel (Genesis 4:2) and Seth (Genesis 4:25), were part of the first generation of children ever born on this earth.
Even though only these three males are mentioned by name, Adam and Eve had other children. In Genesis 5:4 a statement sums up the life of Adam and Eve—“And the days of Adam after he had fathered Seth were eight hundred years. And he fathered sons and daughters.” This does not say when they were born. Many could have been born in the 130 years (Genesis 5:3) before Seth was born.
During their lives, Adam and Eve had a number of male and female children. The Jewish historian Josephus wrote that, “The number of Adam's children, as says the old tradition, was thirty-three sons and twenty-three daughters.”[11]
The Bible does not tell us how many children were born to Adam and Eve. However, considering their long life spans (Adam lived for 930 years—Genesis 5:5), it would seem reasonable to suggest there were many! Remember, They were commanded to “Be fruitful, and multiply” (Genesis 1:28).
If we now work totally from Scripture, without any personal prejudices or other extra-biblical ideas, then back at the beginning, when there was only the first generation, brothers would have had to have married sisters or there would be no more generations!
We are not told when Cain married or any of the details of other marriages and children, but we can say for certain that some brothers had to marry their sisters at the beginning of human history.
Many people immediately reject the conclusion that Adam and Eve's sons and daughters married each other by appealing to the law against brother-sister intermarriage. Some say that you cannot marry your relation. Actually, if you don't marry your relation, you don't marry a human! A wife is related to her husband even before they marry because all people are descendants of Adam and Eve—all are of “one blood.” The law forbidding marriage between close relatives was not given until the time of Moses (Leviticus 18-20). Provided marriage was one man to one woman for life (based on Genesis 1 and 2), there was no disobedience to God's law originally when close relatives (even brothers and sisters) married each other.
Remember that Abraham married his half-sister (Genesis 20:12). God blessed this union to produce the Hebrew people through Isaac and Jacob. It was not until some 400 years later that God gave Moses laws that forbade such marriages.
Adam and Eve did not have accumulated genetic mistakes. When the first two people were created, they were physically perfect. Everything God made was “very good” (Genesis 1:31), so their genes were perfect—no mistakes! But, when sin entered the world (because of Adam—Genesis 3:6, Romans 5:12), God cursed the world so that the perfect creation then began to degenerate, that is, suffer death and decay (Romans 8:22). Over thousands of years, this degeneration has produced all sorts of genetic mistakes in living things.
Cain was in the first generation of children ever born. He (as well as his brothers and sisters) would have have received virtually no imperfect genes from Adam or Eve, since the effects of sin and the Curse would have been minimal to start with (it takes time for these copying errors to accumulate). In that situation, brother and sister could have married with God's approval, without any potential to produce deformed offspring.
By the time of Moses (a few thousand years later), degenerative mistakes would have built up in the human race to such an extent that it was necessary for God to forbid brother-sister (and close relative) marriage (Leviticus 18-20).[12] (Also, there were plenty of people on the earth by then, and there was no reason for close relations to marry.)
http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-c004.html
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Ive been laughing about this for 5 minutes straight lol.
The statement is misleading, yet you are laughing. The statement claims "according to the bible". That is not what the bible states.
Have you even read the Bible? Seems like you haven't, so how can you even think of criticizing something you have no knowledge of?
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The statement is misleading, yet you are laughing. The statement claims "according to the bible". That is not what the bible states.
Have you even read the Bible? Seems like you haven't, so how can you even think of criticizing something you have no knowledge of?
Have you? Can you tell us what page it says Jesus created the universe and the planet like you claim?
Fucking dumbass. Dazzling example of being the product of incest and inbreeding you are.
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Have you? Can you tell us what page it says Jesus created the universe and the planet like you claim?
Fucking dumbass. Dazzling example of being the product of incest and inbreeding you are.
I think John 1 covers that:
Verse 1-3, 14:
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God.
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
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Have you? Can you tell us what page it says Jesus created the universe and the planet like you claim?
Fucking dumbass. Dazzling example of being the product of incest and inbreeding you are.
You are asking where in the Bible. Right? JESUSCHRIST, THE SON OF GOD, THE LOGOS CREATED THE UNIVERSE AND THE EARTH.
Read John 1:3,10, Colossians 1:13-18, Hebrews 1:8-11.
You better stick to just stating that you don't believe in the Bible or God.
I have read the Bible from cover to cover TWICE and I read it EVERYDAY.
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You are asking where in the Bible. Right? JESUSCHRIST, THE SON OF GOD, THE LOGOS CREATED THE UNIVERSE AND THE EARTH.
Read John 1:3,10, Colossians 1:13-18, Hebrews 1:8-11.
You better stick to just stating that you don't believe in the Bible or God.
I have read the Bible from cover to cover TWICE and I read it EVERYDAY.
Is it my imagination or are Lurker and Garebear, complaining about incest (involving people of the opposite sex) while condoning homosexuality?
Brokebacking - Good; Incest (particularly with the purpose of populating the planet) - Bad?
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Is it my imagination or are Lurker and Garebear, complaining about incest (involving people of the opposite sex) while condoning homosexuality?
Brokebacking - Good; Incest (particularly with the purpose of populating the planet) - Bad?
No, it's not your imagination. They are that perverted and twisted. But, such is the heart of the unrepentant who refuses to acknowledge God and his word.
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As and adult , have you ever read the Bible Rob?
Adam did not only have just 2 sons, so that image above that you find so amusing is false.
http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-c004.html
Genesis 5:4 "Adam had other sons and daughters."
You are correct. I was wrong about that.
I read the Bible from time to time, but it is mostly psalms to be honest.
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You are asking where in the Bible. Right? JESUSCHRIST, THE SON OF GOD, THE LOGOS CREATED THE UNIVERSE AND THE EARTH.
Read John 1:3,10, Colossians 1:13-18, Hebrews 1:8-11.
You better stick to just stating that you don't believe in the Bible or God.
I have read the Bible from cover to cover TWICE and I read it EVERYDAY.
Jesus must have invented a time machine to do so before his birth.
Funny, the Bible says that God created the planets and universe.
I guess you need to bring up your reading skill past 3rd grade level.
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I think John 1 covers that:
Verse 1-3, 14:
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God.
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Did God create it or did Jesus. Simple question.
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Jesus must have invented a time machine to do so before his birth.
Funny, the Bible says that God created the planets and universe.
I guess you need to bring up your reading skill past 3rd grade level.
Did God create it or did Jesus. Simple question.
Simple answer: Read what's posted.
The Word was God; All things were made by him; the WORD was made FLESH. It's that's simple.
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Is it my imagination or are Lurker and Garebear, complaining about incest (involving people of the opposite sex) while condoning homosexuality?
Brokebacking - Good; Incest (particularly with the purpose of populating the planet) - Bad?
Are you imagining things? Or attempting to justify your hatred of one sin through justification of another? Which one of these groups are allowed to marry? (Neither) Which one of these sex acts is considered a crime? (Both) So they seem to be pretty equal in my book.
Population through incest? Yeah, that is a great way to counter evolution. But then again, when the babies are born deformed or with physical limitations, that is not because of scientifically proven anomalies that inbreeding can cause, it is just because of "sins of the parents" right? You make that claim.
No, it's not your imagination. They are that perverted and twisted. But, such is the heart of the unrepentant who refuses to acknowledge God and his word.
Coming from someone that admits they are the product of incest and inbreeding it is laughable. Not to mention very telling of the IQ associated with the reproduction offspring of said acts.
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Simple answer: Read what's posted.
The Word was God; All things were made by him; the WORD was made FLESH. It's that's simple.
Simple question - God or Jesus. Who created the universe and planets?
If you can't answer a simple question then you doing nothing but showing you can't sustain your argument.
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Simple question - God or Jesus. Who created the universe and planets?
If you can't answer a simple question then you doing nothing but showing you can't sustain your argument.
I've answered the question, multiple times. If you can't comprehend that, you can't sustain your argument.
There is no "or". God and Jesus are one and the same. It's that whole trinity thing. The Word was God, who created all things. That Word became FLESH.
Who do you think that "FLESH" is, Peter?
Furthermore, the verses Dario cited say much the same thing, if you actually bothered to read them.
Are you imagining things? Or attempting to justify your hatred of one sin through justification of another? Which one of these groups are allowed to marry? (Neither) Which one of these sex acts is considered a crime? (Both) So they seem to be pretty equal in my book.
Population through incest? Yeah, that is a great way to counter evolution. But then again, when the babies are born deformed or with physical limitations, that is not because of scientifically proven anomalies that inbreeding can cause, it is just because of "sins of the parents" right? You make that claim.
Coming from someone that admits they are the product of incest and inbreeding it is laughable. Not to mention very telling of the IQ associated with the reproduction offspring of said acts.
By your logic and belief in evolution, YOU are the product of incest and inbreeding as well. It's that whole "common ancestor" thing. Of course, if you can explain the difference between the common ancestor involved in the evolution process vs. Adam and Eve, let's hear it.
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Jesus must have invented a time machine to do so before his birth.
Funny, the Bible says that God created the planets and universe.
I guess you need to bring up your reading skill past 3rd grade level.
God=The Father, The Word (Logos=Jesuschrist) and The Holy Spirit
Read what 1 John 5:7
The concept of the Trinity is very profound. I don't expect an atheist like you, who doesn't read the Bible and who is not of a spiritual mindset to even understand it.
MCWay broke it down for you in its simplest form, but I doubt you want to understand it.
Either way, your question was answered. You have proven that you have no knowledge of the Bible and the only thing you spew is what you were taught at your after school club for atheists.
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No you have not answered it. You have simply relied on a flawed source to provide the answer for you, which it has not done.
God and Jesus the same? Doubtful. God created Jesus. Why would he create himself? Jesus prayed to God. Why would he do that if he was truly God himself? Jesus was the son of God. Jesus referred to God as his Father. So it's quite evident that Jesus was not God. That is akin to me saying my father and I are the same being. ::)
This is why people can't answer a very simple question about a source that is both hypocritical and contradictory. I don't need to comprehend a response that is nothing more than tail chasing without substance.
As far as incest and evolution goes, I am white. Just like Adam and Eve. So how did you and other minorities come about?
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God=The Father, The Word (Logos=Jesuschrist) and The Holy Spirit
Read what 1 John 5:7
The concept of the Trinity is very profound. I don't expect an atheist like you, who doesn't read the Bible and who is not of a spiritual mindset to even understand it.
MCWay broke it down for you in its simplest form, but I doubt you want to understand it.
Either way, your question was answered. You have proven that you have no knowledge of the Bible and the only thing you spew is what you were taught at your after school club for atheists.
More tail chasing from someone trying to support a fairytale with contradictory writings contained within. Someone obviously does not understand the difference between father and son. (Helps for the "play doctor" games when Dad takes you fishing I suppose).
Anyone stupid enough to believe in a fairytale can't be expected to actually debate it either.
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The statement is misleading, yet you are laughing. The statement claims "according to the bible". That is not what the bible states.
Have you even read the Bible? Seems like you haven't, so how can you even think of criticizing something you have no knowledge of?
dude take it easy......you're getting as serious as those muslim guys.....the bible is not off-limits to jokes..or criticism
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due take it easy......you're getting as serious as those muslim guys.....the bible is not off-limits to jokes..or criticism
LOL!!!
Let's not forget that "according to the Bible", God first created light and then days later created the source of that light. Yes, that is what the Bible states. LOL
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No you have not answered it. You have simply relied on a flawed source to provide the answer for you, which it has not done.
God and Jesus the same? Doubtful. God created Jesus. Why would he create himself? Jesus prayed to God. Why would he do that if he was truly God himself? Jesus was the son of God. Jesus referred to God as his Father. So it's quite evident that Jesus was not God. That is akin to me saying my father and I are the same being. ::)
This is why people can't answer a very simple question about a source that is both hypocritical and contradictory. I don't need to comprehend a response that is nothing more than tail chasing without substance.
As far as incest and evolution goes, I am white. Just like Adam and Eve. So how did you and other minorities come about?
Maybe god was schizophrenic?
It would explain a lot
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No you have not answered it. You have simply relied on a flawed source to provide the answer for you, which it has not done.
God and Jesus the same? Doubtful. God created Jesus. Why would he create himself? Jesus prayed to God. Why would he do that if he was truly God himself? Jesus was the son of God. Jesus referred to God as his Father. So it's quite evident that Jesus was not God. That is akin to me saying my father and I are the same being. ::)
This is why people can't answer a very simple question about a source that is both hypocritical and contradictory. I don't need to comprehend a response that is nothing more than tail chasing without substance.
As far as incest and evolution goes, I am white. Just like Adam and Eve. So how did you and other minorities come about?
Doubtful? Based on what, your cracked logic, which seems to have no problem accepting a common ancestor in the scheme of evolution but screams about such in the scheme of Creation?
You asked the question and got the answer. Your not liking the answer or feigning ignorance about such makes little difference.
Besides, since you believe in evolution, what makes you so sure that your common ancestor was white? If it wasn't white, that would mean YOU are the minority.
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Lets look at things objectively.....ALL religions have had some very disturbing philosophies over the course of history...I strongly condemn these stupid muslims for their beliefs where they think its okay to kill people....but christianity has a bloody history as well.....the bible has spawned many a fanatic throughout history..so no one has clean hands here....
except the Buddhists....which I happen to be..LOL ;)
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Doubtful? Based on what, your cracked logic, which seems to have no problem accepting a common ancestor in the scheme of evolution but screams about such in the scheme of Creation?
You asked the question and got the answer. Your not liking the answer or feigning ignorance about such makes little difference.
Besides, since you believe in evolution, what makes you so sure that your common ancestor was white? If it wasn't white, that would mean YOU are the minority.
You have not answered it. You have given the writings of a flawed and contradictory source as your "answer" and when challenged on it, you simply keep repeating it over and over as if it will come true.
Rather than actually address the points I made in the last one, you simply fall back into the habit of claiming you answered it and then chasing your tail again.
As far as evolution goes, I never said my ancestors were white. They could have been purple. Who knows? I said according to the Bible, they were white. We all "know" that God is white, Jesus was white, Adam, Eve, Cain, Abel, Seth, etc... Where did the chinese come from? The blacks?
But let's not stop there. Because according to the Bible, these minority anomalies didn't just occur once did they? How many blacks and chinese were on the Ark with Noah? How did they come to exist in the world a second time?
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This is a perfect example of what Matthew 7:6 describes:
"Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs..."
The Bible is by far the wisest book.
It is a waste of time discussing the Bible with people that have closed hearts and use what they perceive is their "infallible knowledge". LOL!!
Apostle Paul would proclaim the salvation by Jesus to the Jews. Most of them reacted like Lurker. Paul would just move on to someone else. I will move on.
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You have not answered it. You have given the writings of a flawed and contradictory source as your "answer" and when challenged on it, you simply keep repeating it over and over as if it will come true.
Rather than actually address the points I made in the last one, you simply fall back into the habit of claiming you answered it and then chasing your tail again.
Hardly!! You ran your mouth, thinking your questions couldn't be answered. Once they were (quite easily), you have more excuses than Obama for his failed economic record.
As far as evolution goes, I never said my ancestors were white. They could have been purple. Who knows? I said according to the Bible, they were white. We all "know" that God is white, Jesus was white, Adam, Eve, Cain, Abel, Seth, etc... Where did the chinese come from? The blacks?
But let's not stop there. Because according to the Bible, these minority anomalies didn't just occur once did they? How many blacks and chinese were on the Ark with Noah? How did they come to exist in the world a second time?
Again, who said these alleged anomalies were minorities? OH, that would be YOU, under your questionable (to say the least) assumption that the majority were white like you.
Keep it up; you're down to three or four toes, at this point.
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This is a perfect example of what Matthew 7:6 describes:
"Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs..."
The Bible is by far the wisest book.
It is a waste of time discussing the Bible with people that have closed hearts and use what they perceive is their "infallible knowledge". LOL!!
Apostle Paul would proclaim the salvation by Jesus to the Jews. Most of them reacted like Lurker. Paul would just move on to someone else. I will move on.
Dude..answer the guy's questions......stop pontificating
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This is a perfect example of what Mark 5 says. Jesus states "The blind will lead the blind" good job at showcasing you can't contribute.
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Hardly!! You ran your mouth, thinking your questions couldn't be answered. Once they were (quite easily), you have more excuses than Obama for his failed economic record.
Again, who said these alleged anomalies were minorities? OH, that would be YOU, under your questionable (to say the least) assumption that the majority were white like you.
Keep it up; you're down to three or four toes, at this point.
that Orange cell-tech is destroying your brain McWay....he, nor you actually answered the question..you and he, simply referred back to the source (the Bible)....thats not an objective answer
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that Orange cell-tech is destroying your brain McWay....he, nor you actually answered the question..you and he, simply referred back to the source (the Bible)....thats not an objective answer
I'm sorry. Which flavors did you purchase, when you got those 14 pounds of Cell-Tech again?
His question was "on what page" did Jesus or God created the planet. The answer is there is no "or". Jesus is God, as part of the trinity. The specific passages were cited to answer that question.
Lurker asked for a specific reference in Scripture, regarding this issue. When he got it, he pulled the whole bait and switch and started talking about what he does or doesn't believe and whining about how the Bible is "flawed".
Neither Dario nor I asked him if he believes it; we know he doesn't. But, that wasn't the question at hand.
Disbelief in the answer does NOT equate to an unanswered question. But, if you want to talk about unanswered questions, perhaps you can get Lurker to take his foot out of his mouth long enough to address why he doesn't have a problem with incest in an evolutionary construct (courtesy of that common ancestor thing) but keeps wailing about incest from a Creation construct (i.e. Adam and Eve).
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Hardly!! You ran your mouth, thinking your questions couldn't be answered. Once they were (quite easily),
Really? Where? Because this is what I asked a minute ago and the only "answer" you gave was more tail chasing and spinning.
Here you go, repeated for another chance to answer
God created Jesus? Why would he create himself? Jesus prayed to God. Why would he do that if he was truly God himself? Jesus was the son of God. Jesus referred to God as his Father. So it's quite evident that Jesus was not God. That is akin to me saying my father and I are the same being. ::)
I am sure there is a logical explanation for this. One that doesn't include blindly accepting fairytale references that are as open as the ocean to interpretation. Ready, set, go...
Again, who said these alleged anomalies were minorities? OH, that would be YOU, under your questionable (to say the least) assumption that the majority were white like you.
Keep it up; you're down to three or four toes, at this point.
Who said he wasn't white? All pictures I have seen of him, he was white. Why, he's Anglo Saxon white in his portrait on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. (Greatest trick Michelangolololololol ever played on the church there) Hell, all the important fairytale characters are white. Santa Claus, Cinderella, Tooth Fairy.
But sure, we can go with God being another color. Heck, I can easily believe he was black too the way he cast off his children and they had babies out of wedlock.... so for the sake of your argument let's say God is black. How did whiteys and chinese come about? Hmmm?
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that Orange cell-tech is destroying your brain McWay....he, nor you actually answered the question..you and he, simply referred back to the source (the Bible)....thats not an objective answer
He gave a non answer and repeated over and over that he answered it. ::) He didn't answer the question, he gave what he wanted the answer to be, but it wasn't.
Let's get this right. First there was God. BEFORE Jesus was born. Right? Then Jesus was born. Which (haha) meant God created himself and actually prayed to himself and called himself Father? ::) Then after Jesus ascended was when the Holy Spirit came down. Now suddenly, there are 3 "Gods" but they are all the same one even though there are period of times when the other two did not exist at all.
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Really? Where? Because this is what I asked a minute ago and the only "answer" you gave was more tail chasing and spinning.
Here you go, repeated for another chance to answer
You asked specifically "on what page" (referring to Scripture) does it say that Jesus created the planet and universe. When both Dario and I answered it, you pulled the bait-and-switch routine, now whining about what you can and can't believe and why.
I am sure there is a logical explanation for this. One that doesn't include blindly accepting fairytale references that are as open as the ocean to interpretation. Ready, set, go...
The logical explanation would be the salvation of man's sins.
Who said he wasn't white? All pictures I have seen of him, he was white. Why, he's Anglo Saxon white in his portrait on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. (Greatest trick Michelangolololololol ever played on the church there) Hell, all the important fairytale characters are white. Santa Claus, Cinderella, Tooth Fairy.
But sure, we can go with God being another color. Heck, I can easily believe he was black too the way he cast off his children and they had babies out of wedlock.... so for the sake of your argument let's say God is black. How did whiteys and chinese come about? Hmmm?
Simple. You would have people with the genetic ability to produce different colors of offspring, the EXACT same thing you believe, regarding a common ancestor, with regards to evolution.
Yet again, you keep ducking the question of why you have a problem with the concept of incest via a common ancestor in Creation, but have no problem with such in evolution.
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He gave a non answer and repeated over and over that he answered it. ::) He didn't answer the question, he gave what he wanted the answer to be, but it wasn't.
Let's get this right. First there was God. BEFORE Jesus was born. Right? Then Jesus was born. Which (haha) meant God created himself and actually prayed to himself and called himself Father? ::) Then after Jesus ascended was when the Holy Spirit came down. Now suddenly, there are 3 "Gods" but they are all the same one even though there are period of times when the other two did not exist at all.
Wrong again, Lurker.
This was YOUR question:
Have you? Can you tell us what page it says Jesus created the universe and the planet like you claim?
Dario answered that, as did I, citing the SPECIFIC references that talk of Jesus being that Creator. Then, you come with all of your excuses and complain about how such strains your sensibility.
And, despite the fact that 240 admitted that the Bible did not make the claim that the pic Garebear posted said it did, you continue to flap your gums and make a fool of yourself, by claiming that neither he nor I answered your question.
You asked Dario if he'd read the Bible. He answered that he did, claiming to have read it from cover to cover TWICE. You asked him "on what page" does it state that Jesus created the planet and universe. He answered that, too, giving specific chapters and verses. Whether you think the Bible is "flawed" or "contradictory" makes no difference.
As for the rest of your tired gibberish, there is no "all of a sudden" involved, as the concept of a trinity starts in the Old Testament in Genesis and continues within the New Testament.
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You are correct. I was wrong about that.
I read the Bible from time to time, but it is mostly psalms to be honest.
Thanks Rob.
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LOL!!! Still dodging I see. Ok, I can play along for a few more minutes.
You keep referring back to the question that I asked Retardario. (Which still isn't answered)
What about the ones I asked YOU? Before you run in more circles and ask "What questions" let me quote them again.
God created Jesus? Why would he create himself? Jesus prayed to God. Why would he do that if he was truly God himself? Jesus was the son of God. Jesus referred to God as his Father. So it's quite evident that Jesus was not God. That is akin to me saying my father and I are the same being.
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Simple. You would have people with the genetic ability to produce different colors of offspring, the EXACT same thing you believe, regarding a common ancestor, with regards to evolution.
Yet again, you keep ducking the question of why you have a problem with the concept of incest via a common ancestor in Creation, but have no problem with such in evolution.
Really? If so that would still be occurring today wouldn't it? How many black babies have been born to Chinese parents? Really, for the entire world to be populated that way, not once but TWICE, it should be a pretty common thing nowdays. Especially given how many more people there are on the planet now.
You keep hightailing it back asking me about incest. But "I have already answered that multiple times". (your debate logic there) But therefore I will do so again.
My answer - here let me put it in bold so it isn't missed AGAIN - I don't have a problem with the world being populated via incest. Simply because it HAS NEVER HAPPENED. Duh!!! Wouldn't matter if it were by Biblical or evoluation viewpoints. It hasn't happened. Period. The point I am making is that Christians will get cornered with this argument and try (and fail) to defend it while ignoring the fact that God forbids incest. Are you claiming that the world was populated TWICE by a method that God condones? Great logic there. Maybe that is why God ignores his children now???
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Jesus is not God.
The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be". And he was.
Adam had no mother or father, but God created him. Jesus had a mother but no father but God created him.
Before any atheists start ridiculing claims of the qur'an about 'dust'/earth and 'water' etc... We are indeed made up of water... and of the earth. What is in the earth? Elements... which compose our bodies. We consume from it and we desecrate them out and ultimately return dead to the soil after frail old age.. to be brought back to God when the time is right.
As far as Jesus is concerned and the bible... well... it's a farce... the trinity is something that came after Jesus, something that spwaned from the teachings of PAUL, a jew who was a bounty hunter of jews who followed Jesus (peace be upon him). He is a fraud.. and even his three accounts of 'seeing' or hearing jesus are crooked and inaccurate. He is not credible and a liar. He is the one along the church that corrupted Jesus' message.
Jesus was sent by God to the children of Israel (Jacob), to set them straight as they've become harsh and heartless, following laws like ritiual with no faith, hence Jesus' soft and emotional nature. Yet Jesus also got angry and upset. It's not all love love love peace peace peace non-sense evangelists and missionaries spout.
Jesus prayed to God, Jesus was challenged by the devil and offered the whole world by the devil. Would God be tempted by his own creation? WHAT?
Jesus also said I without the father cannot do anything, I do not do of my will but of the father. This in definition is being a MUSLIM, submitting yourself to will of God literally.
Only someone with psychological and emotional issues with bipolar disorder would believe in the trinity conciously... it is illogical and a lie...
God is one.. as Jesus said, Hear oh israel our Lord is one, repeating the first commandment.
When Jesus said through me you wlil find the kingdom of God. He did not mean worship me, he meant like any prophets, if you follow the prophet/messenger who is guiding you to that of God that God gave him, you will be on the straight path.
Btw, Jews don't believe in hell, they believe all non-jews will perish and all jews go to heaven. Christianity on the other hand belives in hell and heaven but believe that if you 'accept jesus' (trinity, resurection, divine, etc... church dogma doctrine) you will go to heaven.
God responds in the qur'an, to this claim:
And they say: "None shall enter paradise unless he be a Jew or a Christian." Those are their (vain) desires. Say: "Produce your proof if ye are truthful." Nay whoever submits his whole self to Allah and is a doer of good he will get his reward with his Lord; on such shall be no fear nor shall they grieve.
Qur'an 2: 111 and 112
“Allah, may He be exalted, points out that whoever of the previous nations did well and was obedient, will have a good reward, and this will be the case for everyone who follows the Unlettered Prophet [Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) until the Hour comes – he will have eternal happiness, and they will not fear what they are going to face, nor will they grieve for what they have left behind. As Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): ‘No doubt! Verily, the awliya’ of Allah [i.e., those who believe in the Oneness of Allaah and fear Allaah much, and love Allaah much], no fear shall come upon them nor shall they grieve.’ (Quran 10:62). And Allaah tells us what the angels say to the believers at the time of death (interpretation of the meaning): ‘Verily, those who say, “Our Lord is Allah,” then they istaqaamu [stood straight, i.e., truly followed Islam], on them the angels will descend (at the time of their death) (saying): “Fear not, nor grieve! But receive the glad tidings of Paradise which you have been promised!”’ (Quran 41:30)
As far as the Jews are concerning, their faith meant believing in the Tawraat (original Torah) and following the way of Moosa (peace be upon him) until ‘Eesa came, after which whoever continued to follow the Torah and the way of Moosa, and did not leave this and follow ‘Eesa, was doomed. As far as the Christians are concerned, their faith meant believing in the Injeel (original Gospel) and following the laws of ‘Eesa; whoever did this was a believer whose faith was acceptable to Allaah, until Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) came, after which whoever did not follow Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and leave the way of ‘Eesa and the Injeel that he had been following before, was doomed.
The verse (interpretation of the meaning), “And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers” [Aal ‘Imraan 3:85] is a statement that Allaah will not accept any way or deed from anyone, after sending His Final Messenger, except those that are in accordance with the laws of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). Prior to this, however, anyone who followed the Prophet of his own time was on the Straight Path of salvation. So the Jews were those who followed Moosa (peace be upon him) and referred to the Tawraat for judgement at that time. When Allaah sent ‘Eesa (peace be upon him), the Children of Israel were obliged to follow him and obey him, and so they and others who followed him became Christians.. When Allaah sent Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), as the Final Prophet and a Messenger to all the children of Adam, all of mankind was obliged to believe in him and obey him, and refrain from what he prohibited. Those who did so are the true believers. The ummah (nation) of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) are called the believers because of their deep eemaan (faith) and conviction, and because they believe in all the past Prophets and in the prophesied events that are yet to come.”
Commenting on the aayah in Soorat al-Baqarah, Ibn Katheer (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:
“What is meant is that every group believed in Allaah and the Last Day, which is the appointed Day of Reckoning, and did righteous deeds. But after Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was sent to both mankind and the jinn, true belief can only be in accordance with the way of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). Whoever follows his way will not fear the future or grieve for what they leave behind.
Source(s):
Who are the Jews and Christians who will enter Paradise?
http://islamqa.com/en/ref/2912/christian%20paradise
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I'm not sure if he's just trolling, a nutcase, a propagandist or a geek with other motives at the pentagon or what? The one thing I'm sure of is that he has no intention of honest discussion here. I'd like to ban the fucker but if you guys want to let him stay it's up to you. If you think there is a legit beef against him posting pm me and let me know.
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Lol, he's far to entertaining to ban him. Look at him like your retarded step-brother, and just lol at the stuff that rolls from his mouth.
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LOL!!! Still dodging I see. Ok, I can play along for a few more minutes.
You keep referring back to the question that I asked Retardario. (Which still isn't answered)
Really?
Your questions: "Have you? Can you tell us what page it says Jesus created the universe and the planet like you claim? (the "Have you?", referring to whether he's read the Bible)
Dario's answers:
You are asking where in the Bible. Right? JESUSCHRIST, THE SON OF GOD, THE LOGOS CREATED THE UNIVERSE AND THE EARTH.
Read John 1:3,10, Colossians 1:13-18, Hebrews 1:8-11.
You better stick to just stating that you don't believe in the Bible or God.
I have read the Bible from cover to cover TWICE and I read it EVERYDAY.
What about the ones I asked YOU? Before you run in more circles and ask "What questions" let me quote them again.
I addressed those already. But, since the Alzheimer's keeps flaring up, on your end....
I referenced the verses, regarding the Word (God) becoming flesh directly. That, in case you can't quite get it, is a reference to Jesus Christ (also mentioned in the other verses Dario cited).
Why would "God create Jesus"? That was answered as well, when I made reference to the other passages Dario cited.
From Colossians 1, And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell; And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven. And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled.
In other words, for the redemption of mankind from sin.
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Really? If so that would still be occurring today wouldn't it? How many black babies have been born to Chinese parents? Really, for the entire world to be populated that way, not once but TWICE, it should be a pretty common thing nowdays. Especially given how many more people there are on the planet now.
You keep hightailing it back asking me about incest. But "I have already answered that multiple times". (your debate logic there) But therefore I will do so again.
My answer - here let me put it in bold so it isn't missed AGAIN - I don't have a problem with the world being populated via incest. Simply because it HAS NEVER HAPPENED. Duh!!! Wouldn't matter if it were by Biblical or evoluation viewpoints. It hasn't happened. Period. The point I am making is that Christians will get cornered with this argument and try (and fail) to defend it while ignoring the fact that God forbids incest. Are you claiming that the world was populated TWICE by a method that God condones? Great logic there. Maybe that is why God ignores his children now???
Look who's talking about "great logic". Regardless of which view you take, regarding the origin of life on this planet, both (at some level) would involve common ancestry and thus incest, hence shooting your claim of "it HAS NEVER HAPPENED" to pieces.
As for the forbidding of such later in the Old Testament, that was also addressed in an earlier post. So, there's hardly any cornering involved. If you once had a small population but later have a larger one, the need for procreation among close relatives would no longer be necessary (especially with an increase in genetic problems that likely didn't exist in earlier times).
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Hey you 2, there is a religion board for that crap. This thread is about the shameless slander of Islam. Back on topic.
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word becoming flesh?
God's orders being realized in action (jesus).
Not God becoming a human being *face palm*...
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Allah? Nothing more than a fairy tale conjured up by a filthy, fat, mass-murdering pedophile.
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Let me see if I'm following this correctly. You cry about people lumping all Muslims together while at the same time you lump all Christians together. Yup, you're a stupid fuck.
I'm guessing your Aussie via way of Pakistan or some other shithole. It would explain your fear of small dogs.
All religion is poison, but just because people believe weird crazy shit doesn't mean they should be murdered en masse, Muslims are crazy, Christians are even crazier - I noticed how you conveniently skipped the Christian belief that Cain Fucked his own Mother to expand the human race and attempted to insult me instead. The key is somehow trying to enlighten deeply indoctrinated people, the sad thing is Indoctrinated adults prey on the children and brainwash them from early on leading to them becoming deeply ignorant adults who believe lies and propaganda. Your repeated attacks are a reflection on your lack of wisdom and intellect, and not in any way a reflection of me. You should be grateful that others ignore your overtly deficient personality and still attempt to raise you above the level of Ignorance you currently suffer from.
The fact people believe that Eve was created from Adam's rib with all modern humans know about how humans are created is the most definite proof of the power of indoctrination. It is complete Nonsense and fluff, and for a grown man to take that stuff seriously, it makes me feel a deep pity for them, to suffer from such Ignorance must be absolute mental torture.
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All religion is poison, but just because people believe weird crazy shit doesn't mean they should be murdered en masse, Muslims are crazy, Christians are even crazier - I noticed how you conveniently skipped the Christian belief that Cain Fucked his own Mother to expand the human race and attempted to insult me instead. The key is somehow trying to enlighten deeply indoctrinated people, the sad thing is Indoctrinated adults prey on the children and brainwash them from early on leading to them becoming deeply ignorant adults who believe lies and propaganda. Your repeated attacks are a reflection on your lack of wisdom and intellect, and not in any way a reflection of me. You should be grateful that others ignore your overtly deficient personality and still attempt to raise you above the level of Ignorance you currently suffer from.
The fact people believe that Eve was created from Adam's rib with all modern humans know about how humans are created is the most definite proof of the power of indoctrination. It is complete Nonsense and fluff, and for a grown man to take that stuff seriously, it makes me feel a deep pity for them, to suffer from such Ignorance must be absolute mental torture.
I stopped reading about two sentences in, Paki.
There aren't any news stories of Christians beheading 17 people for dancing, thus I couldn't care less about them.
I love the posts of rambling pseudo-intellectual morons like yourself. So much ranting with so little said.
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I gotta say, it's getting really fucking old seeing fuckers post the quick and easy replies like: "I'm not going to read that" or "I didn't read past" What you really mean is that you're not willing or prepared to debate the subject.
I get this kind of reply for a guy like a_fuckhead, he's asked for it because he's been clear he's not interested in honest debate. But fuck, this type of reply happens so often it looks like it's just an easy go to reply for having no answer or being too lazy to debate..
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I gotta say, it's getting really fucking old seeing fuckers post the quick and easy replies like: "I'm not going to read that" or "I didn't read past" What you really mean is that you're not willing or prepared to debate the subject.
I get this kind of reply for a guy like a_fuckhead, he's asked for it because he's been clear he's not interested in honest debate. But fuck, this type of reply happens so often it looks like it's just an easy go to reply for having no answer or being too lazy to debate..
It's an internet forum and my time is valuable. Some stuff is worth reading while some isn't. It's pretty easy. People like you and StrawDouche get your posts either skimmed or skipped. Like this one I'm quoting. I read the first sentence and have formulated my opinion off it.
LOL @ you thinking your opinion means something.
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I stopped reading about two sentences in, Paki.
There aren't any news stories of Christians beheading 17 people for dancing, thus I couldn't care less about them.
I love the posts of rambling pseudo-intellectual morons like yourself. So much ranting with so little said.
No, Christians like BUSH and OBAMA just use a Trillion dollar military force to kill millions through WARFARE, Bullets, Bombs, Genocidal Sanctions and Chemical warfare. I can see how 17 people being murdered by fanatical Muslims is a far greater crime than Christians who lead Countires committing MASS MURDER killing Millions. Kinda SAD when the Worlds largest terrorist Nation responsible for untold MURDER and CHAOS are outraged by Muslims killing there own. I used to be outraged at this OVERT HYPOCRISY and lack of Insight, now I just pity the BLIND FOOLS as I know they are also victims of their own Governments Misinformation and Propaganda campaign designed to Brainwash there citizens. Must be terribly painful to suffer such great inner conflict, those poor brainwashed idiots, I wish that Brainwashing hadn't eroded their intellect and imagination, if it hadn't we might have a chance to bring them Back. One can only hope!
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It's an internet forum and my time is valuable. Some stuff is worth reading while some isn't. It's pretty easy. People like you and StrawDouche get your posts either skimmed or skipped. Like this one I'm quoting. I read the first sentence and have formulated my opinion off it.
LOL @ you thinking your opinion means something.
I'm sorry, I only read to "internet forum" and had to stop. ;D
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I'm sorry, I only read to "internet forum" and had to stop. ;D
I lol'd.
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No, Christians like BUSH and OBAMA just use a Trillion dollar military force to kill millions through WARFARE, Bullets, Bombs, Genocidal Sanctions and Chemical warfare. I can see how 17 people being murdered by fanatical Muslims is a far greater crime than Christians who lead Countires committing MASS MURDER killing Millions. Kinda SAD when the Worlds largest terrorist Nation responsible for untold MURDER and CHAOS are outraged by Muslims killing there own. I used to be outraged at this OVERT HYPOCRISY and lack of Insight, now I just pity the BLIND FOOLS as I know they are also victims of their own Governments Misinformation and Propaganda campaign designed to Brainwash there citizens. Must be terribly painful to suffer such great inner conflict, those poor brainwashed idiots, I wish that Brainwashing hadn't eroded their intellect and imagination, if it hadn't we might have a chance to bring them Back. One can only hope!
Brainwashed? better take a look at the MOOSLIMS if you want to see brain washed
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I'm sorry, I only read to "internet forum" and had to stop. ;D
LOL
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Brainwashed? better take a look at the MOOSLIMS if you want to see brain washed
Christians are just as brainwashed, believing crazy shit like EVE was created from the rib of man and the world was created in seven days when even a well educated child could tell you "THAT'S NOT THE WAY THINGS WORK" - Brainwashing is getting people to believe complete Nonsense as if it was true, I couldn't think of better evidence than the above for highlighting the deep level of brainwashing that a poor Christian soul must have experienced.
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Christians are just as brainwashed, believing crazy shit like EVE was created from the rib of man and the world was created in seven days when even a well educated child could tell you "THAT'S NOT THE WAY THINGS WORK" - Brainwashing is getting people to believe complete Nonsense as if it was true, I couldn't think of better evidence than the above for highlighting the deep level of brainwashing that a poor Christian soul must have experienced.
Think what you want, I fairly certain Christians don't give a shit
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Christians are just as brainwashed, believing crazy shit like EVE was created from the rib of man and the world was created in seven days when even a well educated child could tell you "THAT'S NOT THE WAY THINGS WORK" - Brainwashing is getting people to believe complete Nonsense as if it was true, I couldn't think of better evidence than the above for highlighting the deep level of brainwashing that a poor Christian soul must have experienced.
You have a lot of hate, don't you?
I suggest you put that emotion to work in the gym instead of in an online forum. I would bet you could build quite a bit of muscle and physical strength instead of just getting worked up over something you find ridiculous and don't believe in or do you enjoy giving yourself such heartache and grief?
By the way, the Jews were the first to believe the creation story. It comes from the first of the five books of the Old Testament written by Moses. It is called "Genesis". Thanks!
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You have a lot of hate, don't you?
I suggest you put that emotion to work in the gym instead of in an online forum. I would bet you could build quite a bit of muscle and physical strength instead of just getting worked up over something you find ridiculous and don't believe in or do you enjoy giving yourself such heartache and grief?
By the way, the Jews were the first to believe the creation story. It comes from the first of the five books of the Old Testament written by Moses. It is called "Genesis". Thanks!
Not hate at all, there is nothing wrong with telling a child there is no such things as Santa Claus, as a matter of fact it is an act of kindness and compassion that leads to TRUTH, which is a GIFT. You sound like someone who HATES other peoples views who don't correspond with yours. The ignorant should be grateful that there are those compassionate enough to help misinformed and enlightened souls along. It takes a tough but kind person to gently crack the collective denial of ignorance. I state the truth because of LOVE not HATE! I stopped expecting appreciation from those I help long ago, anyway YOUR WELCOME! I'm agnostic by the way, unlike religious nutters who think they have a monopoly on the truth, I don't believe the truth is discoverable by humanities limited minds.
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Not hate at all, there is nothing wrong with telling a child there is no such things as Santa Claus, as a matter of fact it is an act of kindness and compassion that leads to TRUTH, which is a GIFT. It sounds like someone who HATES other peoples views who don't correspond with yours. The ignorant should be grateful that there are those compassionate enough to help misinformed and enlightened souls along. It takes a tough but kind person to gently crack the collective denial of ignorance. I state the truth because of LOVE not HATE! I stopped expecting appreciation from those I help long ago, anyway YOUR WELCOME!
Right. Your words are full of hate and disgust. Your problem, not mine. What you think or believe has no direct influence on me nor my family. You can scream at the top of your lungs of your self righteous "love" of what you hold true and it will not matter in the least to anyone but you. Unless of course you can attract a group of like minded hate filled people that will follow you.
Hitler did that and tried to wipe out the Jews because they were Jewish. He claimed he was "Christian". You don't have to lie at at all. You're an atheist and despise those with any religious beliefs.
Like I said, got to the gym and lift some weights. Get a hobby. Do some community service. Adopt a puppy or kitten. Your blood pressure must be through the roof!
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Not hate at all, there is nothing wrong with telling a child there is no such things as Santa Claus, as a matter of fact it is an act of kindness and compassion that leads to TRUTH, which is a GIFT. It sounds like someone who HATES other peoples views who don't correspond with yours. The ignorant should be grateful that there are those compassionate enough to help misinformed and enlightened souls along. It takes a tough but kind person to gently crack the collective denial of ignorance. I state the truth because of LOVE not HATE! I stopped expecting appreciation from those I help long ago, anyway YOUR WELCOME!
You have a pretty bleak outlook on life bro.
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You have a pretty bleak outlook on life bro.
It shocks me that you consider the TRUTH as HATE, a more skewed view of life I couldn't imagine. I think you need to learn about projection, as your HATRED towards my view leads you to spew forth HATRED towards me, it is obvious you HATE those who don't agree with you. I am a pacifist and abhor anything that leads to violence, it is the role of good people to steer others away from such ideologies. The fact is, you haven't even tried to counter my statements, but spew forth your HATRED of me, which you can't even directly state and resort to passive aggression to do so. Just because you believe that if you shared a similar view as mine on life, that YOU would have a bleak outlook on life, doesn't mean others can hold such views and consider it Bleak. If you decide the truth is Bleak, well so be it, one doesn't avoid the truth because it doesn't make one feel happy. To avoid truth because your afraid of the feeling it would arise in you is an act of cowardice and one taken by narcissistic hedonists who care nothing about the suffering of others. Your futile attack on me is evidence the lesson for you has begun, once again, YOUR WELCOME!
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Right. Your words are full of hate and disgust. Your problem, not mine. What you think or believe has no direct influence on me nor my family. You can scream at the top of your lungs of your self righteous "love" of what you hold true and it will not matter in the least to anyone but you. Unless of course you can attract a group of like minded hate filled people that will follow you.
Hitler did that and tried to wipe out the Jews because they were Jewish. He claimed he was "Christian". You don't have to lie at at all. You're an atheist and despise those with any religious beliefs.
Like I said, got to the gym and lift some weights. Get a hobby. Do some community service. Adopt a puppy or kitten. Your blood pressure must be through the roof!
It is the most normal thing in the world to hate and be disgusted by LIES, DECEIT, WAR, MURDER etc etc, I don't hate anybody, I do hate IGNORANCE and other sick twisted ideologies. As for Christians and other religious people, I pity them, there's a big difference. I have many hobbies, a full life, participate in many community minded projects such as the annual OXFAM Trailwalker and have already adopted a cat from Deathrow. My blood pressure is extremely LOW, the problem is you cant imagine anyone calmly holding views that you yourself would be shaken to the core by. It amazes me how people suggest I have high blood pressure from the statements I post. In 39 years I have never ever had high blood pressure or any other health issues for that matter, I am incredibly healthy, fit and physically strong.
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You have a pretty bleak outlook on life bro.
All he does is fucking ramble. Getdumb is crawling with uneducated dipshits who watch a few youtube clips and then feel the need to bombard us 5000 word essays. Uberman is another c*nt hypocrite cut from the same cloth as this pussy who runs from dogs.
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All he does is fucking ramble. Getdumb is crawling with uneducated dipshits who watch a few youtube clips and then feel the need to bombard us 5000 word essays. Uberman is another c*nt hypocrite cut from the same cloth as this pussy who runs from dogs.
HA HA LMFAO It feels good to get feedback from those whose only contribution is insults and slander, it shows how much impact I am having on your fragile psyche, and that you are close to maturing as a human being. Mission accomplished. Flame on
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It shocks me that you consider the TRUTH as HATE, a more skewed view of life I couldn't imagine. I think you need to learn about projection, as your HATRED towards my view leads you to spew forth HATRED towards me, it is obvious you HATE those who don't agree with you. I am a pacifist and abhor anything that leads to violence, it is the role of good people to steer others away from such ideologies. The fact is, you haven't even tried to counter my statements, but spew forth your HATRED of me, which you can't even directly state and resort to passive aggression to do so. Just because you believe that if you shared a similar view as mine on life, that YOU would have a bleak outlook on life, doesn't mean others can hold such views and consider it Bleak. If you decide the truth is Bleak, well so be it, one doesn't avoid the truth because it doesn't make one feel happy. To avoid truth because your afraid of the feeling it would arise in you is an act of cowardice and one taken by narcissistic hedonists who care nothing about the suffering of others. Your futile attack on me is evidence the lesson for you has begun, once again, YOUR WELCOME!
Consider the truth as hate? Boy you're stretching. Sounds like you're the one that needs to do some research on projection, your reaction to a fairly simple post is pretty telling.
Actually its pretty pathetic, to be perfectly honest.
I do enjoy how me telling you it sounds like you have a bleak outlook on life is somehow passive agressive, it's pretty clear you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.
Anyway, carry on, its funny watching yourself look like bitter, miserable fool over and over. I pray to god you don't have kids, they would be some bitter, fucked up children, thats for sure.
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Consider the truth as hate? Boy you're stretching. Sounds like you're the one that needs to do some research on projection, your reaction to a fairly simple post is pretty telling.
Actually its pretty pathetic, to be perfectly honest.
I do enjoy how me telling you it sounds like you have a bleak outlook on life is somehow passive agressive, it's pretty clear you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.
Anyway, carry on, its funny watching yourself look like bitter, miserable fool over and over. I pray to god you don't have kids, they would be some bitter, fucked up children, thats for sure.
Yeah, actually, the post was directed at The Scott - I thought the post was from him, you just chimed your two cents worth in the middle of a back and forth between him and I. Sometimes it hard to keep up with the HATERS and who's who. So many haters, so little time I'm glad I can entertain you.
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It's an internet forum and my time is valuable. Some stuff is worth reading while some isn't. It's pretty easy. People like you and StrawDouche get your posts either skimmed or skipped. Like this one I'm quoting. I read the first sentence and have formulated my opinion off it.
LOL @ you thinking your opinion means something.
you are one of the most thin-skinned guys on here I have ever seen...you're always angry, don't take criticism well and all you do is insult people.....you need to lighten up and add more to the debate..you're smarter than that and have a lot to offer
also it doesn't hurt to admit you're wrong every 2000 posts or so
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No, Christians like BUSH and OBAMA just use a Trillion dollar military force to kill millions through WARFARE, Bullets, Bombs, Genocidal Sanctions and Chemical warfare. I can see how 17 people being murdered by fanatical Muslims is a far greater crime than Christians who lead Countires committing MASS MURDER killing Millions. Kinda SAD when the Worlds largest terrorist Nation responsible for untold MURDER and CHAOS are outraged by Muslims killing there own. I used to be outraged at this OVERT HYPOCRISY and lack of Insight, now I just pity the BLIND FOOLS as I know they are also victims of their own Governments Misinformation and Propaganda campaign designed to Brainwash there citizens. Must be terribly painful to suffer such great inner conflict, those poor brainwashed idiots, I wish that Brainwashing hadn't eroded their intellect and imagination, if it hadn't we might have a chance to bring them Back. One can only hope!
dude..you are way out there....WAR and TERRORISM are two different things...and the U.S would not intervene in other people's crap if the world would learn to take care of itself and do without us...the U.S. is a force for good in the world...if you don't believe that then let china or Russia take over our role and see how fucked up the world would be then
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Christians are just as brainwashed, believing crazy shit like EVE was created from the rib of man and the world was created in seven days when even a well educated child could tell you "THAT'S NOT THE WAY THINGS WORK" - Brainwashing is getting people to believe complete Nonsense as if it was true, I couldn't think of better evidence than the above for highlighting the deep level of brainwashing that a poor Christian soul must have experienced.
I do believe that the Bible is just as fucked up as the Koran but at least the Christians have worked their way toward not using their religion to kill people or to oppress as they did in the past.....the Muslims and Islamists are still living in then 16th century and are backwards as fuck......thats why the Arab world is falling apart
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Not hate at all, there is nothing wrong with telling a child there is no such things as Santa Claus, as a matter of fact it is an act of kindness and compassion that leads to TRUTH, which is a GIFT. You sound like someone who HATES other peoples views who don't correspond with yours. The ignorant should be grateful that there are those compassionate enough to help misinformed and enlightened souls along. It takes a tough but kind person to gently crack the collective denial of ignorance. I state the truth because of LOVE not HATE! I stopped expecting appreciation from those I help long ago, anyway YOUR WELCOME! I'm agnostic by the way, unlike religious nutters who think they have a monopoly on the truth, I don't believe the truth is discoverable by humanities limited minds.
you're out of your mind....destroying the fantasies of children is not an "act of kindness"
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All he does is fucking ramble. Getdumb is crawling with uneducated dipshits who watch a few youtube clips and then feel the need to bombard us 5000 word essays. Uberman is another c*nt hypocrite cut from the same cloth as this pussy who runs from dogs.
Ironic that you are not directing this statement to 3333..you conservatives on here worship him
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Telling children santa is a lie and that it has more satanic pagan origins than what it is commercially portrayed at is kindness.
If you teach children lies and endorse them lies, when they grow up and find out you've lied, they will be confused what to believe and not believe in anything nor will they trust you.
You know how pissed off I was when I caught my grand mother hiding gifts? I hit her LOL... I feel so bad... poor her.. but... what do they know, what did I know, it's like follow the group mentality without thinking... but in fact its horrible. No not just the fact that as a kid i reacted emotionally being torn to pieces that she was hiding gifts from me for the easter bunny or santa... but that i was lied to. So yes I found out and i never believed it after and was quite mad for some time.
Why lie? Why forge fantasies? Tell the truth of the world to the child.
Santa or christmas or easter have NOTHING to do with Jesus... In fact Easter has to do with Ishtar 'godess of love' and santa... i forget but it has something to do with another pagan crap... taking trees into the house also pagan belief that the spirits in the trees protect your home... and some other crap.... hanging those whadja ma call it things on doors with leaves... also pagan belief... halloween? Etc...
A riddle of pagan rituals and celebrations that have been commercialized to make money and fool children
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I do believe that the Bible is just as fucked up as the Koran but at least the Christians have worked their way toward not using their religion to kill people or to oppress as they did in the past.....the Muslims and Islamists are still living in then 16th century and are backwards as fuck......thats why the Arab world is falling apart
lol 16th century? You don't even know when Muhammad (peace be up on him) had the qur'an revealed... man... you guys throw non-sense around.
No where does the qur'an indiscriminately teach us to want to kill or maim or hunt people... nor can we ever forcefully convert anyone to the religion unlike christianity which converted people by the sword. You cannot 'submit someone to God' by the sword as Muslim is one who submits to God... it is a personal concious choice.
Also who is backwards? Muslims because we are of principle? OR certain 'modern' cultures, that basically regressed. People started covering not running around nude, today people are more and more nude. Prostitution 'the oldest trade', quite common in 'modern day', how about homosexuality? Quite common with romans and greeks and people tried to eradicate this vile practice but here we are today its a 'legalized' action or rather 'life style choice'.
The term 'modern' is soo foolish... people iwll laugh at you 50 years from now just as we laugh at people from 50 years ago. The ARABS who were rejecting Islam were considering themselves "MODERN" and were dissing Islam and the prophet... BACK THEN... so imagine what a joke this mentality is... they used to call what Muhammad (pbuh) brought as "tales of the ancients" as to whta he was advocating and the stories of previous prophets, their people, their actions, their consequences, etc...
50 some years ago, women in america could not divorce, could not own businesses except under their men's names, blacks were 'segregated'. In Islam 1400 years ago all men/women were equal, no such thing as race or nation or tribal divides, this is from ignorance and anyone who ascribes to it today is ignorant even if they claim to be muslim, I am talking about what Islam advocates. Women were allowed to marry and divorce of their own will, not by force. Women were able to own property that her husband could not use. Women were able to own and run their own businesses.
So again look at america 50 years ago and look at islam 1400 years ago?
It's just non-sense islamophobia
Yes certain areas in the muslim world are not following islam and are following their local cultures and tribes... reversion to backwards and ignorance PRE-ISLAM... not due to islam. There are muslims who are racists/nationalists... yet this is highly frowned upon by Muhammad (pbuh) in numerous hadiths and by what islam teaches us... that we are one mankind and as God says we are created different so that we may RECOGNIZE one another (literally think about it for a sec) not because one skin is better than another. The only one better in sight of God is the one with most taqwa (fear of God/God consciousness roughly translated).
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Telling children santa is a lie and that it has more satanic pagan origins than what it is commercially portrayed at is kindness.
If you teach children lies and endorse them lies, when they grow up and find out you've lied, they will be confused what to believe and not believe in anything nor will they trust you.
You know how pissed off I was when I caught my grand mother hiding gifts? I hit her LOL... I feel so bad... poor her.. but... what do they know, what did I know, it's like follow the group mentality without thinking... but in fact its horrible. No not just the fact that as a kid i reacted emotionally being torn to pieces that she was hiding gifts from me for the easter bunny or santa... but that i was lied to. So yes I found out and i never believed it after and was quite mad for some time.
Why lie? Why forge fantasies? Tell the truth of the world to the child.
Santa or christmas or easter have NOTHING to do with Jesus... In fact Easter has to do with Ishtar 'godess of love' and santa... i forget but it has something to do with another pagan crap... taking trees into the house also pagan belief that the spirits in the trees protect your home... and some other crap.... hanging those whadja ma call it things on doors with leaves... also pagan belief... halloween? Etc...
A riddle of pagan rituals and celebrations that have been commercialized to make money and fool children
You beat your own grand mother? Haha, this gimmick is pretty funny.
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I was christian, christian values ;)
Nah I hit her really hard on her head and pulled her earings lol, I was so heart broken at the lie. I really believed in the easter bunny haha. I feel so bad of course but hey I was a kid and we talk about it and joke about it now lol.
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I was christian, christian values ;)
Nah I hit her really hard on her head and pulled her earings lol, I was so heart broken at the lie. I really believed in the easter bunny haha. I feel so bad of course but hey I was a kid and we talk about it and joke about it now lol.
Christian values. ::)
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Well I could also dub it american secular spoiled values if you'd like?? Either way works.
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;D
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You beat your own grand mother? Haha, this gimmick is pretty funny.
He's pretty great, although his spamming of bullshit youtube videos that no one watches is kind of irritating, makes it hard to follow the thread when there is like 8 random vids in a row that I have to completely ignore.
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lol aaah americans. They can exagerate things or undermine really important things at the flip of a switch.
I 'beat my grand mother' when i was 4 years old. Yeah imagine what a mighty beating that was. Do you guys ever see what you're trying to do and wonder and think "Am I dumb" and I am refering to you by I.
And that dumb hill billy satanic church pastor, he does us muslims a favour by burning a qur'an when his filthy unwashed hands don't deserve a book. We Muslims dispose of qur'ans by burning anyway.
Helps to READ sometimes, and LEARN... but i guess some people like christians of the middle ages and nazis of last century liked to burn books rather than read them. Oh well what can we do.
I don't burn books I don't read. I wait until I read them or chose not to read them but I definetely don't talk out of my ass when I don't read them.
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I was christian, christian values ;)
Nah I hit her really hard on her head and pulled her earings lol, I was so heart broken at the lie. I really believed in the easter bunny haha. I feel so bad of course but hey I was a kid and we talk about it and joke about it now lol.
You beat your mom and pulled out her earings ???
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You beat your mom and pulled out her earings ???
That was before he became a MOOOSLIM, if he had been a MOOOSLIM at the time he would have beheaded her.
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That was before he became a MOOOSLIM, if he had been a MOOOSLIM at the time he would have beheaded her.
You just made my day ;D
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You beat your mom and pulled out her earings ???
lol oh American children NEVER are spoiled or hit their family members.
Also I quote your post for reading comprehension. You guys are the worst islamophobe happy uneducated telephone game failures of life :)
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lol oh American children NEVER are spoiled or hit their family members.
Also I quote your post for reading comprehension. You guys are the worst islamophobe happy uneducated telephone game failures of life :)
Not at all i like middle East woman.
They have to carry a lot of shit so when they finally let lose they are a pretty good fuck :)
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That was before he became a MOOOSLIM, if he had been a MOOOSLIM at the time he would have beheaded her.
Naw bro, it would have some kind of South Park Kenny style death.
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Not at all i like middle East woman.
They have to carry a lot of shit so when they finally let lose they are a pretty good fuck :)
nice point :)
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Am I the only one on here who is actually impressed with the multifaceted gimmick pretending to be Whork and Blacken at the same time?
I'm thinking rainman level schizophrenia coupled with a very lonely personal life.
To argue libertarian right and Paul Krugman left simultaneously must be exhausting.
Informal poll: Is he running back and forth between two computers ( maybe more, because we all know he has multiple user names), or is he just disguising his IP from one?
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Am I the only one on here who is actually impressed with the multifaceted gimmick pretending to be Whork and Blacken at the same time?
I'm thinking rainman level schizophrenia coupled with a very lonely personal life.
To argue libertarian right and Paul Krugman left simultaneously must be exhausting.
Informal poll: Is he running back and forth between two computers ( maybe more, because we all know he has multiple user names), or is he just disguising his IP from one?
funny! :)
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Am I the only one on here who is actually impressed with the multifaceted gimmick pretending to be Whork and Blacken at the same time?
I'm thinking rainman level schizophrenia coupled with a very lonely personal life.
To argue libertarian right and Paul Krugman left simultaneously must be exhausting.
Informal poll: Is he running back and forth between two computers ( maybe more, because we all know he has multiple user names), or is he just disguising his IP from one?
Well thank you sir although i cant take all the credit ;)