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Title: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: Hugo Chavez on September 03, 2012, 02:22:28 PM
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Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: Butterbean on September 03, 2012, 02:57:18 PM
The shape of things to come. 

It's good we are still in a time where people can protest against it.
Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: Shockwave on September 03, 2012, 03:25:31 PM
Sounds like a way to get citizens used to having a tracking chip on their ID. If you change the way they think when theyre young, they'll have no problem with it when theyre older.

Had a chip pin school? No big deal to have one on your license.

I full believe that it has begun, ladies and gentlemen.
Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: Kazan on September 03, 2012, 03:42:41 PM
And there it is "for the safety of the children" ::) every time the government wants to infringe upon us, that is the excuse. They give one to my kid it's going to be used for target practice
Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: Butterbean on September 03, 2012, 03:49:59 PM

Had a chip pin school? No big deal to have one on your license.

And licenses can be stolen.  So lets put the chip w/all the info in people's bodies to make things more difficult
"for the criminals."

Sounds like a way to get citizens used to having a tracking chip on their ID. If you change the way they think when theyre young, they'll have no problem with it when theyre older.


I full believe that it has begun, ladies and gentlemen.

And there it is "for the safety of the children" ::)

And "to eliminate cash related crime"
And to eliminate the need to fill out medical/history forms.
And to ease the process of purchasing of goods and services, etc. etc.
Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: Kazan on September 03, 2012, 04:24:16 PM
And licenses can be stolen.  So lets put the chip w/all the info in people's bodies to make things more difficult
"for the criminals."

And "to eliminate cash related crime"
And to eliminate the need to fill out medical/history forms.
And to ease the process of purchasing of goods and services, etc. etc.

Yeah it will eliminate it for about 5 minutes
Not to derail and go religious on you, but that sounds like something from revelations............
Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: Butterbean on September 03, 2012, 04:44:55 PM
Yeah it will eliminate it for about 5 minutes

Yeah that's probablyhow they'll present it.

Not to derail and go religious on you, but that sounds like something from revelations
Yes, The book of Revelation is actually where I got that from.   What is your opinion on if these RFID chips will ever be used to assist in eliminating cash?
Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: Kazan on September 03, 2012, 04:54:35 PM
Yeah that's probablyhow they'll present it.Yes, The book of Revelation is actually where I got that from.   What is your opinion on if these RFID chips will ever be used to assist in eliminating cash?

Our currency is fiat anyway so why not. Most people do everything with a debit/credit card. This is the next progression.
Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: tonymctones on September 03, 2012, 08:14:45 PM
OH SHIT NO!!!!

This is exactly what I was talking about on your other thready hugo about them putting these in registration stickers for vehicles.

Meant to help attendance? BS this wont help with attendance if a student is going to skip class and stay on campus they will just ditch the id.
Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: Hugo Chavez on September 03, 2012, 08:17:38 PM
OH SHIT NO!!!!

This is exactly what I was talking about on your other thready hugo about them putting these in registration stickers for vehicles.

Meant to help attendance? BS this wont help with attendance if a student is going to skip class and stay on campus they will just ditch the id.
I don't remember that but it figures.  I just saw an article that said the company that makes these things is one of the fastest growing companies.  nuts.
Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: tonymctones on September 03, 2012, 08:22:19 PM
Yes, The book of Revelation is actually where I got that from.   What is your opinion on if these RFID chips will ever be used to assist in eliminating cash?
Its already happening Stella, if youve ever seen those express pay passes from exxon mobile where you just wave it over a designated area and it automatically debts your account.

Those are RFID chips.

Supposedly big chains like walmart, kroger etc. are trying to move towards RFID tags in each piece of merchandise. There will be a scanner probably right around where you walk in and out of the store that is big enough to walk under with your cart full of items. When you walk through the scanner it will automatically scan all the RFID tags in your cart and debt an account you have on file.

The bad thing about this technology is its cheap and small
Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: tonymctones on September 03, 2012, 08:26:34 PM
I don't remember that but it figures.  I just saw an article that said the company that makes these things is one of the fastest growing companies.  nuts.
yea anything survillence related is booming right now, everybody wants to watch but nobody wants to be watched.

If your technically inclined it would be a good idea to start a business that circumvents these types of things.
Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: Shockwave on September 03, 2012, 08:50:34 PM
Its already happening Stella, if youve ever seen those express pay passes from exxon mobile where you just wave it over a designated area and it automatically debts your account.

Those are RFID chips.

Supposedly big chains like walmart, kroger etc. are trying to move towards RFID tags in each piece of merchandise. There will be a scanner probably right around where you walk in and out of the store that is big enough to walk under with your cart full of items. When you walk through the scanner it will automatically scan all the RFID tags in your cart and debt an account you have on file.

The bad thing about this technology is its cheap and small
Terrifying. I dont like the idea of totally digital money - seems way to hard to keep the banks honest. Fiat paper money is bad enough.. but totally doing away with hard cash just seems like a recipie for disaster.
Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: tu_holmes on September 03, 2012, 09:10:02 PM
Terrifying. I dont like the idea of totally digital money - seems way to hard to keep the banks honest. Fiat paper money is bad enough.. but totally doing away with hard cash just seems like a recipie for disaster.

It is horrendous and fascist... makes me want to puke.

Fuck this.

Viva la revolucion!
Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: Hugo Chavez on September 03, 2012, 09:17:16 PM
the future looks like shit, someone send me back in time lol
Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: 240 is Back on September 03, 2012, 09:47:18 PM
I dont think the govt will ever force these chips on people.

They'll make it so convenient and easy and rewarding that ppl will line up to pay for them.  :)
Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: Hugo Chavez on September 03, 2012, 10:09:14 PM
Look at this shit:

Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: Hugo Chavez on September 05, 2012, 06:23:41 PM
Look at this shit:


Anybody watch this clip?  This is probably why the media fails with a lot of shit.
Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: Kazan on September 05, 2012, 06:28:54 PM
Doesn't surprise me, the fuckers want the illusion of security for their customers.
Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: Shockwave on September 05, 2012, 09:17:22 PM
Anybody watch this clip?  This is probably why the media fails with a lot of shit.
Just watched, very interesting but not suprising. I figured half the products out there are probably just as fucked up, but you'll never know about it thanks to media protection.
Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: bighead on September 06, 2012, 06:56:20 AM
Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: Shockwave on September 06, 2012, 07:03:36 AM

Fuck that.
I will NOT allow someone to implant an RFID chip into me.
That is where I draw the line.
Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: The True Adonis on September 06, 2012, 07:28:21 AM
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I`ve had my chip for three years now.  Best thing I ever did.
Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: Shockwave on September 06, 2012, 07:49:42 AM
I`ve had my chip for three years now.  Best thing I ever did.
You can have it.
Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: The True Adonis on September 06, 2012, 08:19:49 AM
You can have it.
I didn`t know I had it.  I was in the shower one day and I started beeping.
Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: Shockwave on September 06, 2012, 08:26:15 AM
I didn`t know I had it.  I was in the shower one day and I started beeping.
Uh, what?
Are you being serious?
Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: bighead on September 06, 2012, 09:52:19 AM
Revelation 13:16-17
King James Version (KJV)

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

 this was written 2000 years ago.
Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: a_ahmed on September 06, 2012, 09:55:34 AM
Yet another charm of American "Freedom"

I need to invest in an island where I can move away from the so called 'free world', but then if I moved there I bet america would want to 'liberate' me and bomb my island to oblivion while bringing McDonalds and pizza hut as sacrificial offerings of my death.
Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: dario73 on September 06, 2012, 09:59:22 AM
Revelation 13:16-17
King James Version (KJV)

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

 this was written 2000 years ago.

How can anyone continue to believe that there is no God?

It's funny. People become intrigued and actually believe that false prophet Nostradamus, but not believe the word of God.

Heed the word, atheists.  You still have time before you meet your maker.
Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: The True Adonis on September 06, 2012, 03:49:44 PM
How can anyone continue to believe that there is no God?

It's funny. People become intrigued and actually believe that false prophet Nostradamus, but not believe the word of God.

Heed the word, atheists.  You still have time before you meet your maker.

Exactly.  How can anyone doubt the mark of the beast at this point.  I am living proof.  I guess the good side to my chip is that I can pick up radio signals from Dubai.
Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: a_ahmed on September 06, 2012, 03:56:54 PM
^You serve the anti-christ army :o Why would you allow that garbage put in yourself
Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: The True Adonis on September 07, 2012, 09:04:51 AM
^You serve the anti-christ army :o Why would you allow that garbage put in yourself
I was hoping that I could install Skyrim by simply plugging myself into the wall.
Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: Shockwave on September 07, 2012, 09:14:48 AM
I was hoping that I could install Skyrim by simply plugging myself into the wall.
Lol, nice.
Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: Hugo Chavez on September 07, 2012, 11:09:01 AM
This is TA's view of government:

Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: 24KT on September 07, 2012, 04:44:50 PM
I dont think the govt will ever force these chips on people.

They'll make it so convenient and easy and rewarding that ppl will line up to pay for them.  :)

What do you think the GPS in your smart phone is?

Gotta a bank debit card? Chances are, it has RFID already in it.

Everyone already carries their cell phones and their bank cards with them everywhere.

Then there is the RFID jewellry. Some say the RFID's will be implanted unbeknownst to many when they get a vaccine.
Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: Hugo Chavez on September 07, 2012, 04:57:42 PM
What do you think the GPS in your smart phone is?

Gotta a bank debit card? Chances are, it has RFID already in it.

Everyone already carries their cell phones and their bank cards with them everywhere.

Then there is the RFID jewellry. Some say the RFID's will be implanted unbeknownst to many when they get a vaccine.
240 is talking about having them implanted and he's right, idiots are already paying to get implanted and they will more and more.  And you can't get it in a vaccine.  Pretty much everyone would say WTF if their vaccine needle was that big.

TA is just being an ass, trying to make this sound like crazy conspiracy talk.
Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: 24KT on September 07, 2012, 05:16:44 PM
240 is talking about having them implanted and he's right, idiots are already paying to get implanted and they will more and more.  And you can't get it in a vaccine.  Pretty much everyone would say WTF if their vaccine needle was that big.

TA is just being an ass, trying to make this sound like crazy conspiracy talk.

Not entirely sure about not being able to implant via vaccine.
Certainly the capability is there via needle insertion via simple routine procedures though.
Needles used in these procedures are often designed to withdraw fluids (like blood tests or aspirations), but they are also capable of insertion as well.

Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: The True Adonis on September 07, 2012, 05:18:54 PM
I`m going to forego all vaccines (the ones that Jenny McCarthy told me not to take) in the hopes that I can avoid the Mark of the Beast Chip so that I can continue to grow vegetables on my property despite the Government shutting down all home gardens.

I think its a good plan.
Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: Hugo Chavez on September 07, 2012, 05:21:47 PM
Not entirely sure about not being able to implant via vaccine.
Certainly the capability is there via needle insertion via simple routine procedures though.
Needles used in these procedures are often designed to withdraw fluids (like blood tests or aspirations), but they are also capable of insertion as well.


have you seen the size of the needle used to insert an rfid chip?  I don't get flu vaccines but if I did and they pulled out a needle that size for a vaccine, I would ask WTF and walk right the hell out of there.
Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: Hugo Chavez on September 07, 2012, 05:22:39 PM
I`m going to forego all vaccines (the ones that Jenny McCarthy told me not to take) in the hopes that I can avoid the Mark of the Beast Chip so that I can continue to grow vegetables on my property despite the Government shutting down all home gardens.

I think its a good plan.
fuck off asshole ::)
Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: 24KT on September 07, 2012, 05:27:00 PM
have you seen the size of the needle used to insert an rfid chip?  I don't get flu vaccines but if I did and they pulled out a needle that size for a vaccine, I would ask WTF and walk right the hell out of there.

I have to confess, no I have not seen one. I have seen the relative size of an RFID chip (about the size of a grain of rice) and I have seen needles large enough to accomodate that. needles used to collect blood in vials, or those used to aspirate cysts appear to me to be large enough to accomodate an RFID chip the size of a grain of rice.
Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: Hugo Chavez on September 07, 2012, 05:32:52 PM
I have to confess, no I have not seen one. I have seen the relative size of an RFID chip (about the size of a grain of rice) and I have seen needles large enough to accomodate that. needles used to collect blood in vials, or those used to aspirate cysts appear to me to be large enough to accomodate an RFID chip the size of a grain of rice.
The needle used for humans is 12 guage.  That's big enough that most people would ask WTF if all they were getting was a vaccination.  I seriously doubt any vaccination needle uses anything close to that size.  Maybe in the future they'll be that small.

By the way, the needle size for blood collection is way smaller than 12 guage.  Think about 3X that big for 12 guage.  About the size of a coffee straw.
Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: The True Adonis on September 07, 2012, 05:40:32 PM
I`d start checking your cereal boxes.  Raisins?  I don`t think so.
Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: 24KT on September 07, 2012, 05:41:00 PM
The needle used for humans is 12 guage.  That's big enough that most people would ask WTF if all they were getting was a vaccination.  I seriously doubt any vaccination needle uses anything close to that size.  Maybe in the future they'll be that small.

By the way, the needle size for blood collection is way smaller than 12 guage.  Think about 3X that big for 12 guage.  About the size of a coffee straw.

Not sure what you mean by a coffee straw, I've never sipped coffee out of a straw, unless it was an iced coffee.

Are you saying a 12 gauge needle is about the same size as a straw that one would get from McDonald's ie?
Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: Hugo Chavez on September 07, 2012, 05:56:12 PM
Not sure what you mean by a coffee straw, I've never sipped coffee out of a straw, unless it was an iced coffee.

Are you saying a 12 gauge needle is about the same size as a straw that one would get from McDonald's ie?
coffee straws are for stiring coffee, not drinking through lol...  yes the ones at fast food places like McDonalds.
Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: Hugo Chavez on September 07, 2012, 06:01:13 PM
here, at 1:28...  look at the size of that needle lol...  I think most people would start asking questions if their vaccine shot had a needle that size lol

Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: 24KT on September 07, 2012, 10:24:00 PM
here, at 1:28...  look at the size of that needle lol...  I think most people would start asking questions if their vaccine shot had a needle that size lol



That was freaky & bizarre, and I'm relieved that implanting an RFID does not appear to be as simple as I was led to believe.
Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: The True Adonis on September 07, 2012, 10:43:10 PM
That was freaky & bizarre, and I'm relieved that implanting an RFID does not appear to be as simple as I was led to believe.
It is simple.  They do it when you are sleeping.  You will wake up beeping.
Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: tu_holmes on September 09, 2012, 07:24:00 PM
It is simple.  They do it when you are sleeping.  You will wake up beeping.

;D
Title: Re: what do you think of this? Mandatory RFID Tracking Chips for students
Post by: Shockwave on September 09, 2012, 09:07:30 PM
It is simple.  They do it when you are sleeping.  You will wake up beeping.
I freaked out this morning when I woke up beeping, then I just realized it was my alarm going off. Scariest 10 minutes of my life.