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Why do some people pronounce Heroin as "Hair-on" as opposed to "hair-oh-win"?
Since when did the pronunciation of this word become so misconstrued?
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What is the ethnicity of such people?
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Is it still gay even if you get paid?
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I have never heard anyone pronounce it "Hair-on".
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What is the ethnicity of such people?
racist post reported.
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What is the ethnicity of such people?
Last time I heard it mispronounced it was actually by a "white" rapper on the radio.
Prior to that instance, I was watching an interview on youtube where a radio host was interviewing Frank Lucas and upon speaking of his Heroin sales, would continuously pronounce it as "hair-on".
This mispronunciation is not necessarily limited to any ethnic group. I am just wondering whether both forms are actually acceptable or is it a slang term used for the drug in certain groups.
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Last time I heard it mispronounced it was actually by a "white" rapper on the radio.
Prior to that instance, I was watching an interview on youtube where a radio host was interviewing Frank Lucas and upon speaking of his Heroin sales, would continuously pronounce it as "hair-on".
This mispronunciation is not necessarily limited to any ethnic group. I am just wondering whether both forms are actually acceptable or is it a slang term used for the drug in certain groups.
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its a combination of stupidity and/or ghetto slang.
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Why do some people pronounce Heroin as "Hair-on" as opposed to "hair-oh-win"?
Since when did the pronunciation of this word become so misconstrued?
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Unfortunately, many people cannot speak proper English although it is their first language. Three of my grandchildern who grew up in Germany speaking German as their first language, speak English better than many American's do. I suspect the English language, as we know it, will continue to degrade as people start speaking as they text. Complete words and sentences will be a thing of the past. However, language evolves with the times. This has always been the case.
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its a combination of stupidity and/or ghetto slang.
I thought the ghetto slang for heroin was smack.
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Unfortunately, many people cannot speak proper English although it is their first language. Three of my grandchildern who grew up in Germany speaking German as their first language, speak English better than many American's do. I suspect the English language, as we know it, will continue to degrade as people start speaking as they text. Complete words and sentences will be a thing of the past. However, language evolves with the times. This has always been the case.
I wonder if it is indeed a case whereby the English language is degrading or whether it is compeletely evolving/mutating into another language all together.
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Hair-on is the ghetto way of saying it. You could call it diesel, H, brown. Or call it what it really is, heaven. J/k lol
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I thought the ghetto slang for heroin was smack.
time has passed.you by old man.
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I wonder if it is indeed a case whereby the English language is degrading or whether it is compeletely evolving/mutating into another language all together.
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Proper Oxford English is degrading. Not just here, but in the rest of the English speaking world as well. Few people speak Oxford English these days no matter where they live. All languages evolve over time. The word choices and pronunciations change. Language is how we communicate. If most people speak Pigeon English or ghetto slang, then to communicate well one must understand and speak these "dialects" as well. However, I'd rather set my standards a bit higher most of the time.
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Proper Oxford English is degrading. Not just here, but in the rest of the English speaking world as well. Few people speak Oxford English these days no matter where they live. All languages evolve over time. The word choices and pronunciations change. Language is how we communicate. If most people speak Pigeon English or ghetto slang, then to communicate well one must understand and speak these "dialects" as well. However, I'd rather set my standards a bit higher most of the time.
meltdown.
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time has passed.you by old man.
Perhaps you are right. However, I don't intend to start speaking like some punk kid in an effort to appear younger or more hip.
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meltdown.
Not really a "meltdown" as you put it. Frankly, I could care less how other people speak or communicate. I don't set standards for others so much as for myself. I pride myself for my ability to communicate in an educated manner.
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Proper Oxford English is degrading. Not just here, but in the rest of the English speaking world as well. Few people speak Oxford English these days no matter where they live. All languages evolve over time. The word choices and pronunciations change. Language is how we communicate. If most people speak Pigeon English or ghetto slang, then to communicate well one must understand and speak these "dialects" as well. However, I'd rather set my standards a bit higher most of the time.
stfu bitch
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stfu bitch
Well said....if one wants to appear to be low class. Still, there is some humor in your reply. :)
What's with the fellow in the gif? Can't he afford clothes or does he always dress like that? Really, a cowboy hat and a jockstrap....seems an odd combination of things to wear. I am not impressed.
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hero-win
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Well said....if one wants to appear to be low class. Still, there is some humor in your reply. :)
It's " well said sir" but I'm glad you realized why you needed to be slapped. When you see a "guy" that is really a bitch. You got to slapped her every now and then, to knock her balls back out. ;)
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It's " well said sir" but I'm glad you realized why you needed to be slapped. When you see a "guy" that is really a bitch. You got to slapped her every now and then, to knock her balls back out. ;)
Into the "rough stuff" are we? Trust me, I am bigger than the dude in the silly attire. No one "bitch slaps" me an gets away with it. As a matter of respect, I appreciate you calling me sir. :)
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Into the "rough stuff" are we? Trust me, I am bigger than the dude in the silly attire. No one "bitch slaps" me an gets away with it. As a matter of respect, I appreciate you calling me sir. :)
the only thing that "slaps" is your old ass ball bag against your thigh. Like two eggs in a tubesock.
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Why do some people pronounce Heroin as "Hair-on" as opposed to "hair-oh-win"?
Since when did the pronunciation of this word become so misconstrued?
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There's only one species that I know of that pronounces it that way.....
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I've heard alot of black pronounce it Hair-on. Don't know where it came from though.
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I've seen tapes going back to the 40's where "hair-on" was used in speech by blacks, although I've seen some older southern whites pronounce it close to that way too.
Lou Reed sounds out the correct pronunciation here -
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* Just wanted to post that song, it's one of my favorites.
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its a combination of stupidity and/or ghetto slang.
Street slang for Heroin in chicago is Diesal or just " blow ".
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Back in the day,we called it scag!
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because hair-on sounds cool while heroine just sounds like shit.
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Street Slang.
Older people I know call it smack. We just called it H.
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Into the "rough stuff" are we? Trust me, I am bigger than the dude in the silly attire. No one "bitch slaps" me an gets away with it. As a matter of respect, I appreciate you calling me sir. :)
i just did tho. ;) hope that helps.
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the only thing that "slaps" is your old ass ball bag against your thigh. Like two eggs in a tubesock.
hahaha
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hero-win
Good post...That's exactly the thought process the Hierarchy was thinking when they took the name Diacetylmorphine and relabeled it Heroin(hero-win) so more souls would subconsciously be driven to it and their bloodline become more enslaved.
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Not really a "meltdown" as you put it. Frankly, I could care less how other people speak or communicate. I don't set standards for others so much as for myself. I pride myself for my ability to communicate in an educated manner.
I'm a peaceful man...but I get this irresistible urge to take my peepee out and slap it across the face of anyone who begins a sentence with the word "Frankly..."
Also: they pronounce it hair-on because it's easier to fit into rap lyrics. Phonetics can be a bitch in the rap game, ya dig
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heroin doesnt even sound like it would feel good. it just sounds blah. and with the connotation it had gotten over the years, its even worse.
HAIR-ON .. now that sounds like something that will make you feel awesome.. and theres no negative connotation with it either.. plsu, if you use it in a rap you can find words to rhyme with it
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heroin doesnt even sound like it would feel good. it just sounds blah. and with the connotation it had gotten over the years, its even worse.
HAIR-ON .. now that sounds like something that will make you feel awesome.. and theres no negative connotation with it either.. plsu, if you use it in a rap you can find words to rhyme with it
Every time I hear the media use the word HERO in instances where it's totally silly to use such a word, I think to myself, "nice try Hierarchy"...But then I wonder how many souls fall for this subconscious trick which gets people to use Heroin.
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Proper Oxford English is degrading. Not just here, but in the rest of the English speaking world as well. Few people speak Oxford English these days no matter where they live. All languages evolve over time. The word choices and pronunciations change. Language is how we communicate. If most people speak Pigeon English or ghetto slang, then to communicate well one must understand and speak these "dialects" as well. However, I'd rather set my standards a bit higher most of the time.
wtf is "oxford english" you pompous old assbag? and "Pigeon English"? WTF is that? english spoken by pigeons? Try "pidgin," fucktard.
and OMR - always trying to act cultured to cover up the fact that he dragged himself up from some immigrant ghetto. you can't hide your roots, brah. no need to act offended by hair-on when your command of the language is pathetic to begin with ("when did the pronunciation of the word become so misconstrued?" ok, don king, do you even know what misconstrue means? ::))
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let me help your pompous ass out - a speaker mispronounces, a listener/observer misconstrues. learn a language before you start getting all self-righteous about it.
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Stewie calls it: Herro-Ween...
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It was started in the ghetto. just slang word used by the blacks for heroin. here we call it H, Heron, black, china,smackdown,chip, actually nobody calls it heroin everybody uses some kind of slang term. around the west coast here all we have is the mexican black tar. We are cose to mexico and they bring up a shitload of it. It is inexpensive and they have delivery drivers who actually work 9Am-5pm
The real junkies always get there smack early! most of these run around deivery guys run out by 1PM. they are always hispanic. and they break it down into such small bags. these addicts just get taken advantage of. Every once in awhile we get some real strong china but it always kills almost everybody who uses it.
usually the hondurins run it and sel it at 88% purity wich is insanely high for heroin. It could get cutt 8 times and the user woud still get fucked up. I am in Oregon and we have the highest number of homeless people due to the cheap prices on heroin here. It is awful!
The oxycontin before the formula was changed was around 35% pure synthetic heroin wich is pretty high.
Most people who don't know much about heroin would here 35% and think that sounds low% purity but big dealers sell their heroin no more then 10% around the USA and that is a high percentage most cutt it down to 5%. even in america gangster just because he got pure heroin didnt mean he sold it pure. they woud stomp the shit out of every kilo 10 times. and people still would be overdosing.
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let me help your pompous ass out - a speaker mispronounces, a listener/observer misconstrues. learn a language before you start getting all self-righteous about it.
Calm down tiger..
You seem to have a hard on over the minor details and keep missing the big picture.
The pronunciation of the word Heroin has become misconstrued. If you don't like it, who cares?
Oh, and about growing up in an immigrant ghetto.. I don't know where you get your facts from, but if growing up in Manhattan's midtown area surrounded by affluent Greek and Israeli immigrants is indicative of a ghetto, then I guess you're right.
Relax, don't get your panties all in a bunch..
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Street slang for Heroin in chicago is Diesal or just " blow ".
They call it diesel here in CT and NY
Blow is COke BTW
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They call it diesel here in CT and NY
Blow is COke BTW
Wait a minute, but what about the strain of marijuana called diesel?
Any relation to the heroin called diesel?
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Wait a minute, but what about the strain of marijuana called diesel?
Any relation to the heroin called diesel?
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Yes, there is a strain "Sour Diesel", often referred to the smell of the weed. It has a "diesely" smell to it. Very powerful smell.
No relation to heroin diesel. its just slang.
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Wait a minute, but what about the strain of marijuana called diesel?
Any relation to the heroin called diesel?
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http://www.kindgreenbuds.com/marijuana-strains/sourdiesel.html .
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It was started in the ghetto. just slang word used by the blacks for heroin. here we call it H, Heron, black, china,smackdown,chip, actually nobody calls it heroin everybody uses some kind of slang term. around the west coast here all we have is the mexican black tar. We are cose to mexico and they bring up a shitload of it. It is inexpensive and they have delivery drivers who actually work 9Am-5pm
The real junkies always get there smack early! most of these run around deivery guys run out by 1PM. they are always hispanic. and they break it down into such small bags. these addicts just get taken advantage of. Every once in awhile we get some real strong china but it always kills almost everybody who uses it.
usually the hondurins run it and sel it at 88% purity wich is insanely high for heroin. It could get cutt 8 times and the user woud still get fucked up. I am in Oregon and we have the highest number of homeless people due to the cheap prices on heroin here. It is awful!
The oxycontin before the formula was changed was around 35% pure synthetic heroin wich is pretty high.
Most people who don't know much about heroin would here 35% and think that sounds low% purity but big dealers sell their heroin no more then 10% around the USA and that is a high percentage most cutt it down to 5%. even in america gangster just because he got pure heroin didnt mean he sold it pure. they woud stomp the shit out of every kilo 10 times. and people still would be overdosing.
No shit junkie. Most normal people don't know about a drug like heroin. Drug dealer/addict outed.
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Can I say "Funny pronouncement..." instead of "Funny pronunciation..." ??
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Can I say "Funny pronouncement..." instead of "Funny pronunciation..." ??
No. Russians are excluded.
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No. Russians are excluded.
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Oh, and about growing up in an immigrant ghetto.. I don't know where you get your facts from, but if growing up in Manhattan's midtown area surrounded by affluent Greek and Israeli immigrants is indicative of a ghetto, then I guess you're right.
You have no idea where the word ghetto originated, do you, english professor?
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I've seen tapes going back to the 40's where "hair-on" was used in speech by blacks, although I've seen some older southern whites pronounce it close to that way too.
Lou Reed sounds out the correct pronunciation here -
* Just wanted to post that song, it's one of my favorites.
When I'm rushing on my run and I feel just like Jesus' son :)
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You have no idea where the word ghetto originated, do you, english professor?
Oh I know perfectly where it originated from as my people were forced to live in various ghettos all throughout Europe in order to escape mainstream persecution. Persecution which has now been turned upon those who thought our extinction would be a simple task.
If you want me to get particular and give you the origins of the word ghetto and how it was derived from the Italian "Borghetto" we can go there as well.
You're the one who is assuming the stance of "English Professor"..
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You have no idea where the word ghetto originated, do you, english professor?
Let's go with Venice, Italy for $1000, Alex.
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Let's go with Venice, Italy for $1000, Alex.
from Borghetto
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You're the one who is assuming the stance of "English Professor"..
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Yes, that's why I started a thread about the "misconstruing" of heroin.
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Yes, that's why I started a thread about the "misconstruing" of heroin.
You're the one that feels the need to point out grammatical errors. So are you playing the role of English professor or just trolling aggressively for some attention?
You're not getting a rise out of me or anyone else, so what's the point?
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I'm a peaceful man...but I get this irresistible urge to take my peepee out and slap it across the face of anyone who begins a sentence with the word "Frankly..."
Why do you suppose you have an issue with the word "frankly"? Was it something you mama said to you when you were in trouble for something? I find the word "peepee" very juvenile for a supposedly grown man to use. :-\
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Last time I heard it mispronounced it was actually by a "white" rapper on the radio.
Prior to that instance, I was watching an interview on youtube where a radio host was interviewing Frank Lucas and upon speaking of his Heroin sales, would continuously pronounce it as "hair-on".
This mispronunciation is not necessarily limited to any ethnic group. I am just wondering whether both forms are actually acceptable or is it a slang term used for the drug in certain groups.
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Frank Lucas.......My Man!!!!!
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wtf is "oxford english" you pompous old assbag? and "Pigeon English"? WTF is that? english spoken by pigeons? Try "pidgin," fucktard.
and OMR - always trying to act cultured to cover up the fact that he dragged himself up from some immigrant ghetto. you can't hide your roots, brah. no need to act offended by hair-on when your command of the language is pathetic to begin with ("when did the pronunciation of the word become so misconstrued?" ok, don king, do you even know what misconstrue means? ::))
You got me on the "pidgin" English as opposed to pigeons who speak English mistake. Just proves I am not perfect....never said I was either. At least you are smart enough to have figured out what I meant. I give you credit for that. Some folks believe that "Oxford" English is proper English and everything else is just slang. In terms of this, Americans generally do not speak or use Oxford English.
Clowney, you seem to get miffed so easily. People saying hair-on for heroin doesn't offend me in the least. I have no idea where you got idea from. To the best of my knowledge, I don't know people who use heroin, hair-on or smack so how that culture chooses to talk is of no importance to me.
Yes I do know the meaning of the word misconstrue. You seem to have misconstrued what I said with regards to the English language as a put-down to those who use slang or otherwise alter language. In truth, how people speak, speaks volumes about them and frequently "classifies" them in various ways, such as their economic status, education and where they grew up, etc.
I didn't rise from an immigrant ghetto, as you suggest. Of course there is always the off chance my ancestors who immigrated to America from England prior to the Revolutionary War and who also fought in that war, may have lived humbly at first. I cannot imagine that there were ghettos in America back in the 1700's though.
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Why do you suppose you have an issue with the word "frankly"? Was it something you mama said to you when you were in trouble for something? I find the word "peepee" very juvenile for a supposedly grown man to use. :-\
I have answers to all of your questions sir:
1- It comes across as being pompous, ostentatious, highfaluting
2- regarding my mama...impossible! I had 2 "dads"
3- I literally LOL'd at your last sentence. Peepee is perhaps the most juvenile phallic reference, that's correct, and that's why it was my word of choice. In real life, I would not slap my peepee on your face. That would be very rude. But on GetBig, I would do it many times over to make a point. Nothing personal my friend :D
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They call it diesel here in CT and NY
Blow is COke BTW
Yes....blow is coke, but here in chicago, Street slang for heroin is also " blow ".
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You got me on the "pidgin" English as opposed to pigeons who speak English mistake. Just proves I am not perfect....never said I was either. At least you are smart enough to have figured out what I meant. I give you credit for that. Some folks believe that "Oxford" English is proper English and everything else is just slang. In terms of this, Americans generally do not speak or use Oxford English.
Clowney, you seem to get miffed so easily. People saying hair-on for heroin doesn't offend me in the least. I have no idea where you got idea from. To the best of my knowledge, I don't know people who use heroin, hair-on or smack so how that culture chooses to talk is of no importance to me.
Yes I do know the meaning of the word misconstrue. You seem to have misconstrued what I said with regards to the English language as a put-down to those who use slang or otherwise alter language. In truth, how people speak, speaks volumes about them and frequently "classifies" them in various ways, such as their economic status, education and where they grew up, etc.
I didn't rise from an immigrant ghetto, as you suggest. Of course there is always the off chance my ancestors who immigrated to America from England prior to the Revolutionary War and who also fought in that war, may have lived humbly at first. I cannot imagine that there were ghettos in America back in the 1700's though.
most of my post was directed at OMR.
not miffed - just tired of old guys acting like the world is going to hell in a handbasket b/c someone doesn't speak "standard" english
and in OMR's case, maybe i misconstrue his true motivations for a self-satisfied better-than-thou attitude. anywho, don't care much either way.
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and in OMR's case, maybe i misconstrue his true motivations for a self-satisfied better-than-thou attitude. anywho, don't care much either way.
I think you might have. :D
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I think you might have. :D
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fair enough.
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I have answers to all of your questions sir:
1- It comes across as being pompous, ostentatious, highfaluting
2- regarding my mama...impossible! I had 2 "dads"
3- I literally LOL'd at your last sentence. Peepee is perhaps the most juvenile phallic reference, that's correct, and that's why it was my word of choice. In real life, I would not slap my peepee on your face. That would be very rude. But on GetBig, I would do it many times over to make a point. Nothing personal my friend :D
1. Quite frankly, I could give a rat's ass if people thought I was highfalutin, pompous and ostentatious....but honestly, that is just your frank opinion.
2. There was a mama somewhere in your history; Frankly, two dads can't make a baby as yet. Perhaps one of your dads played the mama to you or one or both of them were pompous, highfalutin and ostentatious in their word choice. Were either of your dads named Frank?
3. Yes, "slapping your peepee" on my face would indeed be rude, plus in real life if you did that you'd risk losing your peepee. I have learned that for some people nothing is real on Getbig and perhaps to some, also in real life. Frankly speaking....speaking will all frankness, I don't take what you say personally, nor should you feel my response is personal either. ;D
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most of my post was directed at OMR.
not miffed - just tired of old guys acting like the world is going to hell in a handbasket b/c someone doesn't speak "standard" english
and in OMR's case, maybe i misconstrue his true motivations for a self-satisfied better-than-thou attitude. anywho, don't care much either way.
Don't be so quick to judge me. Yes I am an old man. Yes I do find some slang amusing, sometimes confusing and occasionally annoying. No I don't believe the world is going to hell in a hand-basket either because of language and dialects or otherwise. I do worry about overpopulation sometimes....but that has nothing to do with language. Perhaps if people talked more they would have less time to be "breeders" and the world would be better off. If you were to meet me on the street, you'd probably be surprised at how laid-back, friendly and non-judgmental I really am. I have no clue what OMR is like in real life but I find his choice of George Michael for a profile photo interesting and amusing.
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You have no idea where the word ghetto originated, do you, english professor?
Your question peaked my interest since I didn't know the origin of the word ghetto. So I did a little research and here is the best of what I found.
To quote from the source:
According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the term is of uncertain etymology but is probably Italian in origin and was perhaps used for the first time in Venice, circa 1516, to describe a neighborhood on the site of the city’s foundry.
Early in its history, the word "ghetto" denoted a walled-off and gated section in a city to which Jews were restricted. The word was chiefly used in Italy, especially in port cities like Venice in which large populations of Jews—many of whom were traders and money lenders—lived. Because they were viewed as cultural minorities due to their non-Christian beliefs in a Renaissance Christian environment, Jews were placed under strict regulations throughout many European cities.
Source(s): http://www.cs.vu.nl/~bvhoute/english/search.php?query=Ghetto&view=1 (http://www.cs.vu.nl/~bvhoute/english/search.php?query=Ghetto&view=1)
Even old men like me can learn something new every day. ;D
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Your question peaked my interest since I didn't know the origin of the word ghetto. So I did a little research and here is the best of what I found.
To quote from the source:
According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the term is of uncertain etymology but is probably Italian in origin and was perhaps used for the first time in Venice, circa 1516, to describe a neighborhood on the site of the city’s foundry.
Early in its history, the word "ghetto" denoted a walled-off and gated section in a city to which Jews were restricted. The word was chiefly used in Italy, especially in port cities like Venice in which large populations of Jews—many of whom were traders and money lenders—lived. Because they were viewed as cultural minorities due to their non-Christian beliefs in a Renaissance Christian environment, Jews were placed under strict regulations throughout many European cities.
Source(s): http://www.cs.vu.nl/~bvhoute/english/search.php?query=Ghetto&view=1 (http://www.cs.vu.nl/~bvhoute/english/search.php?query=Ghetto&view=1)
Even old men like me can learn something new every day. ;D
piqued my interest. make that two new things you learned today. :D
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Is it still gay even if you get paid?
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I have never heard anyone pronounce it "Hair-on".
;D ;D There is a group on people who only pronounce the word "Hair-on." Three syllable words can be difficult .
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Frank Lucas.......My Man!!!!!
;D Excellent.
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;D ;D There is a group on people who only pronounce the word "Hair-on." Three syllable words can be difficult .
Lol.
Johnny Falcon is bringing the new slang, hero-win.
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piqued my interest. make that two new things you learned today. :D
Touché; with you to help me, I may actually someday learn to write proper English. Thanks.
Shouldn't it be chocolate bon-bons or bonbons and not the singular bonbon. Perhaps you ate all but one of them? :-*
Patrick Dennis: Is the English lady sick, Auntie Mame?
Auntie Mame: She's not English, darling... she's from Pittsburgh.
Patrick Dennis: She sounded English.
Auntie Mame: Well, when you're from Pittsburgh, you have to do something.
Mame Dennis: Well, now, uh, read me all the words you don't understand.
Patrick Dennis: Libido, inferiority complex, stinko, blotto, free love, bathtub gin, monkey glands, Karl Marx... is he one of the Marx Brothers?