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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: Soul Crusher on September 18, 2012, 12:29:55 PM
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http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-redistribution-video-believe-income-wealth-romney-2012-9
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Why isn't the media all over this one?
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Why isn't the media all over this one?
Because It's accepted fact Obama is a communist
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in 1998 Romney was a liberal who believed in a womans right to choose to have an abortion and he was also, according to his own words, to the left of Ted Kennedy when it comes to gay rights
I guess he must still hold those same beliefs today
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in 1998 Romney was a liberal who believed in a womans right to choose to have an abortion and he was also, according to his own words, to the left of Ted Kennedy when it comes to gay rights
I guess he must still hold those same beliefs today
Joe the plumber?
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in 1998 Romney was a liberal who believed in a womans right to choose to have an abortion and he was also, according to his own words, to the left of Ted Kennedy when it comes to gay rights
I guess he must still hold those same beliefs today
What does that have to do with this? Not a fucking thing, you have just passed 240 as the king of quantify. But we know Obama hasn't changed everyone deserves a piece of the pie.
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Someone explain "redistribute the wealth" to me. Both sides of the isle please.
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Someone explain "redistribute the wealth" to me. Both sides of the isle please.
The objective is to take from one and give it someone else. There thought process is that everyone has to be equal, no matter their skill level or how hard they work. The problem is some people are lazy or just plain stupid, and if you remove any incentive to "get ahead" by hard work, people will stop putting in the effort.
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Someone explain "redistribute the wealth" to me. Both sides of the isle please.
collecting taxes and using that money to provide services to everyone
every country on the planet does it
btw - Romneys tax plan is to cut taxes on the wealthy and increase taxes on the poor and middle class.
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collecting taxes and using that money to provide services to everyone
every country on the planet does it
btw - Romneys tax plan is to cut taxes on the wealthy and increase taxes on the poor and middle class.
Yeah thats what happens with the tax dollars ::)
And what exactly is Obama's plan? Oh I know we have to re-elect him to find out ::) While we are at when was the last time the federal government had a budget?
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What does that have to do with this? Not a fucking thing, you have just passed 240 as the king of quantify. But we know Obama hasn't changed everyone deserves a piece of the pie.
are you pretending to be dense or are you serious
a quote from Obama taken in 1998 where he appears to be talking about specific issues in Chicago at that time is just as relevent as believing that Romneys position in 1998 on abortion and gay rights is the same as it is today
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Yeah thats what happens with the tax dollars ::)
And what exactly is Obama's plan? Oh I know we have to re-elect him to find out ::) While we are at when was the last time the federal government had a budget?
good point, it's not only to provide services but also to pay the interest on the debt accumulated by all prior POTUS's
thanks for reminding me of that
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Joe the plumber?
333 the fake lawyer and future ward of a state mental facility
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are you pretending to be dense or are you serious
a quote from Obama taken in 1998 where he appears to be talking about specific issues in Chicago at that time is just as relevent as believing that Romneys position in 1998 on abortion and gay rights is the same as it is today
No I'm not dense, I live in IL, I know all about Obama and his BS, the simple fact that you defend that fucker is funny to me.
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good point, it's not only to provide services but also to pay the interest on the debt accumulated by all prior POTUS's
thanks for reminding me of that
Then perhaps I should remind you of how much Obama has increased the national debt as well as had not one but 2 credit down grades on his watch
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No I'm not dense, I live in IL, I know all about Obama and his BS, the simple fact that you defend that fucker is funny to me.
good, then maybe you can tell us what he was specifically talking about in the 1998 clip where we only get to hear the last 1 minute and 30 seconds
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Then perhaps I should remind you of how much Obama has increased the national debt as well as had not one but 2 credit down grades on his watch
yep, it's too bad he didn't simply refuse to pay the interest owed on the prior debt
also too bad he simply couldn't reset the economy on day 1 of his presidency so that he didn't have to deal with massive unemployment (which costs the federal govt money) and loss of tax revenue
of course you're well aware of the reasons given for the credit downgrade. Was it specifically because of actions by Obama? Please remind us all
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yep, it's too bad he didn't simply refuse to pay the interest owed on the prior debt
also too bad he simply couldn't reset the economy on day 1 of his presidency so that he didn't have to deal with massive unemployment (which costs the federal govt money) and loss of tax revenue
of course you're well aware of the reasons given for the credit downgrade. Was it specifically because of actions by Obama? Please remind us all
Fucking please, Obama was in congress, he got out on the stump and promised all sorts of shit and has managed to do the exact opposite. But I know what your gonna say, it's always someone else's fault when it comes to Barack. Guess what he is the POTUS the fucking buck stops at the oval office. If he can't and won't accept that responsibility, then he needs to step aside
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collecting taxes and using that money to provide services to everyone
every country on the planet does it
btw - Romneys tax plan is to cut taxes on the wealthy and increase taxes on the poor and middle class.
You mentioned along time ago you have a business. Has it gone under yet?
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Fucking please, Obama was in congress, he got out on the stump and promised all sorts of shit and has managed to do the exact opposite. But I know what your gonna say, it's always someone else's fault when it comes to Barack. Guess what he is the POTUS the fucking buck stops at the oval office. If he can't and won't accept that responsibility, then he needs to step aside
when did I say he shouldn't accept responsibility
that doesn't change the fact that the debt is cumulative and the interest expense continues
same will be true if Romeny becomes POTUS
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You mentioned along time ago you have a business. Has it gone under yet?
biz is doing great
best year ever since 2005
how's your business doing ?
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biz is doing great
best year ever since 2005
how's your business doing ?
It's going great opening a bigger location in Nov. I ask because you seem to not realize what raising taxes does to businesses.
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collecting taxes and using that money to provide services to everyone
every country on the planet does it
btw - Romneys tax plan is to cut taxes on the wealthy and increase taxes on the poor and middle class.
That is how it is supposed to work now. When I hear redistribute the wealth, what I "hear" is that people who are doing better than everyone else, need to pay alot more to make up for the lack of paying in by the poor. Am I right in this assumption? What I mean is, is that what you think it means?
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Someone explain "redistribute the wealth" to me. Both sides of the isle please.
Redistribution of the wealth is code speech for a Black Liberation Theology idea that the white man stole all of thier wealth from minorities... Native American land... Mid east oil... Etc. Followers of this theology believe salvation comes from returning wealth to it's rightful owner. Not surprisingly Rev. Wright supscribes to this belief and we all know that tie in. A good glimpse of the policy in action though is taking place in the gulf right now. No American companies can drill for oil since the BP fiasco... But South American ones can, mainly Brazilian companies. That is subtle redistribution of the wealth.
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It's going great opening a bigger location in Nov. I ask because you seem to not realize what raising taxes does to businesses.
I've never thought about taxes in regards to my business. I made good money in the 1990's when taxes were marginally higher. I had a few shitty years (2008 specifically) where I would much rather have made more money and paid 3% more in taxes than to have made a lot less money and had a smaller tax bill
If a 3% bump in your marginal tax rate is really going to have a serious impact on your business then it's not taxes that are your problem
here is what Mark Cuban had to say about taxes when looking at business opportunities
Entrepreneurs who create something out of nothing don’t care what tax rates are. Bill Gates didn’t monitor the marginal tax rate when he dropped out of Harvard and started MicroSoft (btw, it was a ton higher than it is today). Michael Dell didn’t wonder what the capital gains tax was when he started PC’s Limited, and then grew it into Dell Computer. I doubt that any great business or invention started with a discussion or even a consideration of what the current or projected income or capital gains tax was or would be.
The impact of tax rates on productivity and development is something economists masturbate about, enterpreneurs don’t waste their time thinking about it. We have business to do.
Entrepreneurs live to be entrepreneurs. I have never had a discussion with anyone about starting a business that included tax rates. Ever. If anyone that wanted an investment from me made a point of discussing tax rates as an impact on their business, I wouldnt invest in them. Ever.
http://blogmaverick.com/
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That is how it is supposed to work now. When I hear redistribute the wealth, what I "hear" is that people who are doing better than everyone else, need to pay alot more to make up for the lack of paying in by the poor. Am I right in this assumption? What I mean is, is that what you think it means?
one could make that interpration but then one could also say that redistribution of wealth is taking from the poor and middle class and giving it to the wealthly
that's essentially what Ryans budget does and what Romeny's budget must do (there is no other way to make it work)
One could also argue that those who have benefited more should be a tiny bit more. There is nothing wrong with that either. I personally would like to see taxes on everyone go back to what they were under Clinton.
If eveyones marginal tax rate goes up by 3% then no one can really complain about it or say it's unfair
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LOL at straw diverting the issue to kneepad obama's socialism.
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LOL at straw diverting the issue to kneepad obama's socialism.
wtf are you talking about ?
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wtf are you talking about ?
Oblah blah believes in taking money from some people to give it to others who he thinks are victims of this terrible nation.
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Oblah blah believes in taking money from some people to give it to others who he thinks are victims of this terrible nation.
in the 1998 clip he appears to be talking about a specific situation within the city of Chicago
regardless of that he didn't actually create our current tax code nor did he invent the progressive tax system that we an many other countries have
Of course, none of that really matters since you think it's an actual fact that Obama is a communist
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Oblah blah believes in taking money from some people to give it to others who he thinks are victims of this terrible nation.
I have to agree with 33 on this, there is enough information out there, alot of it in Obama's own words.
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in the 1998 clip he appears to be talking about a specific situation within the city of Chicago
regardless of that he didn't actually create our current tax code nor did he invent the progressive tax system that we an many other countries have
Of course, none of that really matters since you think it's an actual fact that Obama is a communist
And this makes a difference how? He believes doing it at the city level, why wouldn't he believe in it at the state or national level?
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Rush was all over this quote today. So ya can't just generalize 'the media isn't talking about it'.
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in the 1998 clip he appears to be talking about a specific situation within the city of Chicago
regardless of that he didn't actually create our current tax code nor did he invent the progressive tax system that we an many other countries have
Of course, none of that really matters since you think it's an actual fact that Obama is a communist
What was he talking about when he said spread the wealth to joe the plumber
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And this makes a difference how? He believes doing it at the city level, why wouldn't he believe in it at the state or national level?
I think the context of what he was talking about does matter but then again every politician believes in "redistrubution of wealth"
if not, then we would have a government and they wouldn't have a job
talking about a catch phrase such as that is meaningless but it's what Romney is trying to do today to distract from his own disastrous campaign
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I think the context of what he was talking about does matter but then again every politician believes in "redistrubution of wealth"
if not, then we would have a government and they wouldn't have a job
talking about a catch phrase such as that is meaningless but it's what Romney is trying to do today to distract from his own disastrous campaign
Yeah OK, all the BS with Romney is simply distraction from the disastrous policies Obama has implemented.
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a 2005 interview (Adobe PDF) promoting Dreams From My Father, then-Illinois State Senator Barack Obama had this to say about “mutual responsibility for bridging the [racial] divisions that exist right now”:
And I really want to emphasize the word “responsibility.” I think that whether you are a white executive living out in the suburbs, who doesn’t want to pay taxes to inner-city children for them to go to school, or you’re an inner-city child who doesn’t want to take responsibility for keeping your street safe and clean, both of those groups have to take some responsibility if we’re going to get beyond the kinds of divisions that we face right now.
http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2012/08/what-president-obama-really-thinks-about-successful-working-americans-2453378.html
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a 2005 interview (Adobe PDF) promoting Dreams From My Father, then-Illinois State Senator Barack Obama had this to say about “mutual responsibility for bridging the [racial] divisions that exist right now”:
And I really want to emphasize the word “responsibility.” I think that whether you are a white executive living out in the suburbs, who doesn’t want to pay taxes to inner-city children for them to go to school, or you’re an inner-city child who doesn’t want to take responsibility for keeping your street safe and clean, both of those groups have to take some responsibility if we’re going to get beyond the kinds of divisions that we face right now.
http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2012/08/what-president-obama-really-thinks-about-successful-working-americans-2453378.html
Why anyone on a national level would vote for an IL politician for POTUS is beyond me. I guess you have to live in this fucked up state to understand
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Why anyone on a national level would vote for an IL politician for POTUS is beyond me. I guess you have to live in this fucked up state to understand
Excuse me? I live in the Bronx - LMFAO!!!!
We have charlie Rangle, Sharpton, et al remember?
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Excuse me? I live in the Bronx - LMFAO!!!!
We have charlie Rangle, Sharpton, et al remember?
Our last to Governors are in the Pen
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Our last to Governors are in the Pen
Our last elected Gov resigned in a prostitution scandal. ;D
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Our last elected Gov resigned in a prostitution scandal. ;D
At least he was fucking a hooker and not the state :o
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White House: Romney 'desperate' for releasing '98 tape of Obama
The Washington Times ^ | Sept. 19, 2012 | Dave Boyer
Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2012 5:05:03 PM
The White House called Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney and his allies "desperate" Wednesday for releasing an audio tape from 1998 in which then-state Sen. Barack Obama spoke in favor of "redistribution" of wealth.
"When a campaign is having a bad day or a bad week or some might say a bad month … you sometimes witness an effort to, it seems desperate, to change the subject," said White House press secretary Jay Carney.
Republicans came out Tuesday with the tape of Mr. Obama, speaking at Loyola University, saying he supports "redistribution." It followed the release on Monday of a secretly recorded video of Mr. Romney at a fundraiser in May saying that 47 percent of Americans — Mr. Obama's supporters — consider themselves "victims" who depend on the government for assistance.
Mr. Romney and his running mate, Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin, are highlighting Mr. Obama's 14-year-old comments on the campaign trail.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...
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Full-on communism. Fuck this grimy c*nt.
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Full-on communism. Fuck this grimy c*nt.
Notice how this piece of garbage NEVER EVEr mentions individual freedoms or rights?