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Obama supporters keeping it classy :-\
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Imbeciles.
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Obama supporters keeping it classy :-\
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I could do the same thing and troll a bunch of ignorant "Romney Supporters".
You have a small mind coach. Dem or Repub are one in the same. It's too bad you can't see it. Youll continually be stuck on stupid.
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I could do the same thing and troll a bunch of ignorant "Romney Supporters".
You have a small mind coach. Dem or Repub are one in the same. It's too bad you can't see it. Youll continually be stuck on stupid.
I disagree.
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I disagree.
Well then, there it is.
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I disagree.
You think Republicans are a bastian of morality and clean politics?
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OOOoooooOOoooooOBAAMMMAA AAAAA
That Bitch needs to Lay of the Yak , the Cognac that is
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destroys anything it touches
would be interesting to hear their opinions now,
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I could do the same thing and troll a bunch of ignorant "Romney Supporters".
You have a small mind coach. Dem or Repub are one in the same. It's too bad you can't see it. Youll continually be stuck on stupid.
I actually bet you could not find a Romney supporter video that is as ridiculous as what you just saw in that video. Generally they can speak with a bit more intelligence.
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Most voters have no idea what's going on and will vote according to whomever Comedy Central supports.
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You think Republicans are a bastian of morality and clean politics?
How many obama phones you have?
http://obamaphone.net
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How many obama phones you have?
http://obamaphone.net
None... i have an iPhone.
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None... i have an iPhone.
How much did i have to contribute towards that?
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Most voters have no idea what's going on and will vote according to whomever Comedy Central supports.
lmao.
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How much did i have to contribute towards that?
towards my iphone?... why would you have to contribute for me to get a cell phone
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I actually bet you could not find a Romney supporter video that is as ridiculous as what you just saw in that video. Generally they can speak with a bit more intelligence.
Apparently you've never seen footage from tea party gatherings.
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most of those free phones given away , are used to set up drug deals.... Just saying
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most of those free phones given away , are used to set up drug deals.... Just saying
Yup - obama, peace be upon him, doesnt want these layabouts back to work. He wants them dumb, drugged up, doped up, drunk, and on welfare and sponging off the system for votes.
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most of those free phones given away , are used to set up drug deals.... Just saying
100% right.
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i think the repubs has more imbeciles, not many more. but more
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so basically Obama pays off 50% of the voters, which is illegal, and makes the election a fraud.
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so basically Obama pays off 50% of the voters, which is illegal, and makes the election a fraud.
Yup. You think those layabouts and welfare slugs would vote for him if he told them to get off their fat EBT asses and go to work and stop popping out little future convicts like a pez dispenser?
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Apparently you've never seen footage from tea party gatherings.
Every single video i have seen from Tea Party gatherings are vastly different then the original video posted. Most tea party members are smart and sensible people.
Show us a video of a tea party member that is acting like that crazy woman...
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tea partiers believe in an outdated fairytale book, thats crazy enough for me!
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tea partiers believe in an outdated fairytale book, thats crazy enough for me!
The U.S. Constitution?
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Obama supporters keeping it classy :-\
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WoW indeed
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/mitt-romney/9564529/Mitt-Romney-why-dont-aeroplane-windows-open.html
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WOW! Coach's relatives make their youtube debut...
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From what I've seen Romney is definitely the dumber and less statesman-like than Obama. I mean, air plane windows. Really? Really really?
He's looking for a feather in his cap and could not care less about anyone else.
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From what I've seen Romney is definitely the dumber and less statesman-like than Obama. I mean, air plane windows. Really? Really really?
He's looking for a feather in his cap and could not care less about anyone else.
Obama - JD from Harvard = Brilliant
Romney - JD / MBA from Harvard = Dumb
You are a fucking moron.
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WOW! Coach's relatives make their youtube debut...
At least they have jobs and arn't looking for hand outs. See the difference? You want free shit, I want to work for what I have. You don't get it do you?
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At least they have jobs and arn't looking for hand outs. See the difference? You want free shit, I want to work for what I have. You don't get it do you?
It's you that doesn't get it.
First, your thread is extremely ignorant, which has already been pointed out to you. Why? Because there are uninformed people in both political parties. That...by the way, was the purpose of my youtube clip.
Second, you have NO IDEA whether the people in my youtube clip have jobs or not. You have no idea how many of the people in my youtube clip are receiving hand outs or not. I mean, you do know that Romney's parents were on welfare, don't you?
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Obama - JD from Harvard = Brilliant
Romney - JD / MBA from Harvard = Dumb
You are a fucking moron.
Mitt Romney - why can't one open aircraft windows. It seems awfully dangerous not being able to you know.
Romney's a moron, you're just dumber than him not to see how awkward, inexperienced and pathetic he is. And when November comes, he'll be consigned to the dustbin of American politics. You heard it here first.
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Mitt Romney - why can't one open aircraft windows. It seems awfully dangerous not being able to you know.
Romney's a moron, you're just dumber than him not to see how awkward, inexperienced and pathetic he is. And when November comes, he'll be consigned to the dustbin of American politics. You heard it here first.
LOL - Obama blames ATM machines for job losses and thinks docs cut off feet for $$$$$.
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It's you that doesn't get it.
First, your thread is extremely ignorant, which has already been pointed out to you. Why? Because there are uninformed people in both political parties. That...by the way, was the purpose of my youtube clip.
Second, you have NO IDEA whether the people in my youtube clip have jobs or not. You have no idea how many of the people in my youtube clip are receiving hand outs or not. I mean, you do know that Romney's parents were on welfare, don't you?
1. Those in the inner city are going to be your typical Obama supporters. Obama is no dummy, give them free shit for a vote. There is no denying that people who support him are looking for a hand out because they think in some way they're entitled.PERIOD.
2. It's one thing to get temporary government assistance it's quite a another to depend on it for the rest of your life. Have some dignity when you get back on your feet to drop the government assistance and fend for yourself. Obama doesn't want that and neither do most who support him. Most are RAPING the system good hard working people pay into. Did you think extending the UE to 99 weeks was a good idea?? It makes people even lazier. You're naive.
3. Sure there are uninformed people but not on every issue.
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LOL - Obama blames ATM machines for job losses and thinks docs cut off feet for $$$$$.
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Wank over Romney all you want. After all, you made your political allegiance long time ago and feel the moral need to support whoever the GOP drags from the gutter as front man. Hell, you probably still believe the American people have a true say in the political landscape. It does not matter whether 90% of the country is against Obama. The world don't need a warmongering self-glorifying buffoon right now as the 'leader' of the free world. They're still smarting over that little 2000-2008 period. The liberal black man does the job nicely right now and therefore will stay another 4 years. This is obvious to anyone. Well, not to you and your fellow halfwits.
Come November the sixth and the obvious will happen. Obama, 4 more years.
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At this point 333333 knows Romney won't win. He knows damn well.
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At this point 333333 knows Romney won't win. He knows damn well.
and? If the messiah wins and we head into another recession as the GDP reports today all point to - then what? Are you 94ers going to blame him for it and still worship him like a god king?
Bro - the joke is on blacks since they have suffered far worse than any other group under obamanomics yet still worship him solely due to racial solidarity.
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1. Those in the inner city are going to be your typical Obama supporters. Obama is no dummy, give them free shit for a vote. There is no denying that people who support him are looking for a hand out because they think in some way they're entitled.PERIOD.
2. It's one thing to get temporary government assistance it's quite a another to depend on it for the rest of your life. Have some dignity when you get back on your feet to drop the government assistance and fend for yourself. Obama doesn't want that and neither do most who support him. Most are RAPING the system good hard working people pay into. Did you think extending the UE to 99 weeks was a good idea?? It makes people even lazier. You're naive.
3. Sure there are uninformed people but not on every issue.
1a. I was unaware that the inner city population makes up over 50% of the overall and electorate population.
1b. Are you aware that Obama did not start this free phone service?
2. "Have some dignity when you get back on your feet to drop the government assistance and fend for yourself.
Obama doesn't want that and neither do most who support him."
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Prove this statement
3. Yes, there really are.
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At this point 333333 knows Romney won't win. He knows damn well.
The rest of the world has known since the candidates for the GOP stepped forward that Obama is going all the way to 2016. It's 100% about perception and it was a sad lot that stepped forward indeed.
This isn't even up for serious debate. Let Romney fumble around and fuck up to give the impression of a serious challenge to keep his dumb supporters happy while the rest of America and the wider world get ready for another 4 years of Obama.
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I will vote for the person that John Stewart makes fun of the least. Which seems sound.
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At this point 333333 knows Romney won't win. He knows damn well.
He probably will win even though he lies, cheats and steals on a daily basis. Do actually think he would win based on his past lack of performance...Fuck no. He will win for one reason and one reason only....because people are freeloaders.
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being connected is hugely important. Most people I know woudl skip lunch every day if it meant that, or losing their phone.
obama was politiclaly shrewd enough to find something small and cheap he can give people which will keep their vote forever.
Mitt will NEVER say he's going to take away their obama phones, but people figure he will.
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He probably will win even though he lies, cheats and steals on a daily basis. Do actually think he would win based on his past lack of performance...Fuck no. He will win for one reason and one reason only....because people are freeloaders.
Obama gets the following:
94% of racist blacks
Gays / LGBT
Communists/Marxists/Leftists
Guild ridden white yuppies
Dumb college students who never worked
College professors and academia
Enviro marxists
Total is about 44-47%
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He probably will win even though he lies, cheats and steals on a daily basis. Do actually think he would win based on his past lack of performance...Fuck no. He will win for one reason and one reason only....because people are freeloaders.
You mean, like Romney's parents?
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Obama - JD from Harvard = Brilliant
Romney - JD / MBA from Harvard = Dumb
You are a fucking moron.
He was talking about Romney asking why airplane windows don't open.
He's been surrounded by 'yes men' for the last 30 years, agreeing with everything he said. He probably asked people in his private plane the same Q 20 years ago, and instead of saying "you dumb shit", they said "good question, sir!"
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He was talking about Romney asking why airplane windows don't open.
He's been surrounded by 'yes men' for the last 30 years, agreeing with everything he said. He probably asked people in his private plane the same Q 20 years ago, and instead of saying "you dumb shit", they said "good question, sir!"
Amnd obama could not figure out email on an IPhone or spell Syracuse remember ding bat?
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Obama gets the following:
94% of racist blacks
Gays / LGBT
Communists/Marxists/Leftists
Guild ridden white yuppies
Dumb college students who never worked
College professors and academia
Enviro marxists
Total is about 44-47%
Your anger truly makes me laugh. Or is it your disillusions? Fuck I don't know, both maybe.
All of the above you articulated so dearly could be convinced to cross the isles ... well, had there been an viable alternative.
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He was talking about Romney asking why airplane windows don't open.
He's been surrounded by 'yes men' for the last 30 years, agreeing with everything he said. He probably asked people in his private plane the same Q 20 years ago, and instead of saying "you dumb shit", they said "good question, sir!"
Exactly, but I decided to let it slide as doing my washing was a better use of time than arguing with a dummy.
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Another winner of a thread from Getbig's bottom feeder.
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Every single video i have seen from Tea Party gatherings are vastly different then the original video posted. Most tea party members are smart and sensible people.
Show us a video of a tea party member that is acting like that crazy woman...
The video of those idiots claiming Obama is a gay socialist from Kenya are everywhere. Also a great number of them are 911 conspiracy nuts. The problem is that people who support the tea party, and I suspect that includes you, don't recognize the crazy because they believe it themselves.
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Every single video i have seen from Tea Party gatherings are vastly different then the original video posted. Most tea party members are smart and sensible people.
Show us a video of a tea party member that is acting like that crazy woman...
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Link-a-thon!
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and? If the messiah wins and we head into another recession as the GDP reports today all point to - then what? Are you 94ers going to blame him for it and still worship him like a god king?
Bro - the joke is on blacks since they have suffered far worse than any other group under obamanomics yet still worship him solely due to racial solidarity.
I know. It's in the history books now, for all to see for the rest of time, how blacks painted themselves into a corner with this Obama election farce... in a historical perceptive they come out of this looking pretty fucking bad, in several ways.
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I know. It's in the history books now, for all to see for the rest of time, how blacks painted themselves into a corner with this Obama election farce... in a historical perceptive they come out of this looking pretty fucking bad, in several ways.
They refuse to see how bad they have been played by this con man. You know what makes me laugh about blacks who worship obama?
Obama comes to NYC every two weeks where i live to raise $$$$ from white liberals, wall street people, wealthy jews, hollywood types etc for 40k a head in lower Manhattan. He locks up midtown, locks down the traffic, etc etc.
In 4 years of him being in office and coming here for $$$$$, has he ever once, ONCE, stepped foot in the Bronx, Brooklyn, Queens, Staten island, Yonkers, New Rochelle, Mt. Vernon, for so much as 5 minutes to shake the hands of a few regular decent working people?
Even once?
Has obama ever once held anything whatsoever for blacks or inner city people? Not that I can tell. The only thing obama does for blacks is mock them and yell at them to take off their bedroom slippers and STFU and stop complaining.
Case in point.
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Most voters have no idea what's going on and will vote according to whomever Comedy Central supports.
Pretty much. I believe it was Winston Churchill who said the argument against democracy is a conversation with the average voter. Either him or Hitler, can't recall if I read it in Mein Kampf. Anyway, with the collective IQ of the nation going down, there should be voter laws implemented to keep the morons from voting.
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You know what I find hilarious? Is that he puts all his energy on this voting thing and we are 12% of the population. And I guarentee because of the disportionate amount of blacks with felonies and the one that aren't old enough or don't want to vote that puts the number to under 10%. So it's not just an Obama thing.
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Pretty much. I believe it was Winston Churchill who said the argument against democracy is a conversation with the average voter. Either him or Hitler, can't recall if I read it in Mein Kampf. Anyway, with the collective IQ of the nation going down, there should be voter laws implemented to keep the morons from voting.
Luckily the voters have no say in who gets to be president. Sadly the collect IQ have gone down too far to realize this.
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Wonder if kanye west is going to vote for Obama
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I am sorry but those videos prove my point. Politics aside, the sheer fact you can even understand what they are saving vs the original video speaks volumes.
Let me ask you this. If you were in a room and you had the people in the videos you just posted to go talk to, or that crack head looking woman. Who would you go talk to?
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This dude gets it.
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The video of those idiots claiming Obama is a gay socialist from Kenya are everywhere. Also a great number of them are 911 conspiracy nuts. The problem is that people who support the tea party, and I suspect that includes you, don't recognize the crazy because they believe it themselves.
I support people that are intelligent and have common sense. The damn political party doesn't matter since there are arguments i agree with on both sides. However, i have met quite a few tea party members who had some extreme view points (ie religion) but were very smart and hard working americans, which i can still relate to on issues outside the political spectrum.
I have not seen any tea party members (yet) that make me roll my eyes and just look the other way like i do with the woman in the first video.
I have come across some extremes on both ends but some of the extremes i have come across with Obamas supporters lately are by far the worst. Just look at the women in the first video. Would you trust her in your house if you had her over? Can you relate more to her then other people in the videos you posted?
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Luckily the voters have no say in who gets to be president. Sadly the collect IQ have gone down too far to realize this.
This is sadly very true. At the end of the day the president is decided by the Electoral College, not the popular vote. It amazes me at times how very few people these days even know that.
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I am sorry but those videos prove my point. Politics aside, the sheer fact you can even understand what they are saving vs the original video speaks volumes.
Let me ask you this. If you were in a room and you had the people in the videos you just posted to go talk to, or that crack head looking woman. Who would you go talk to?
Better than having Obama outright lie that the attacks in Libya weren't an orchestrated terrorist act.
This administration is playing to, and supported by, the lowest common denominators in society.
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I am sorry but those videos prove my point. Politics aside, the sheer fact you can even understand what they are saving vs the original video speaks volumes.
Let me ask you this. If you were in a room and you had the people in the videos you just posted to go talk to, or that crack head looking woman. Who would you go talk to?
These videos don't prove anything. You're simply picking and choosing. It's just as easy to find videos of intelligent rational people at an Obama rally. At this point I don't even give a shit who wins so I'm not advocating a particular candidate. My point is that it is wise to be consistant in ones criticisms.
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I am sorry but those videos prove my point. Politics aside, the sheer fact you can even understand what they are saving vs the original video speaks volumes.
Let me ask you this. If you were in a room and you had the people in the videos you just posted to go talk to, or that crack head looking woman. Who would you go talk to?
I would never be forced to talk to either of those people. They are all ignorant when it comes to American politics. Again, the point is that there are ignorant republicans and democrats.
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Easy choice I'll pick the party less supported by minorities particularly blacks and filthy Latino mexicans! ;D
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destroys anything it touches
would be interesting to hear their opinions now,
I am a democrat and realize that cluelss morons exist on both sides...but this voter is over the top hahaha
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Howard Stern's take on Obama voters:
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This is sadly very true. At the end of the day the president is decided by the Electoral College, not the popular vote. It amazes me at times how very few people these days even know that.
I realize that, but for the most part the electoral college and popular vote go hand in hand.
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so much hate.....
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so much hate.....
so much waste and incompetence at our expense......
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They refuse to see how bad they have been played by this con man. You know what makes me laugh about blacks who worship obama?
Obama comes to NYC every two weeks where i live to raise $$$$ from white liberals, wall street people, wealthy jews, hollywood types etc for 40k a head in lower Manhattan. He locks up midtown, locks down the traffic, etc etc.
In 4 years of him being in office and coming here for $$$$$, has he ever once, ONCE, stepped foot in the Bronx, Brooklyn, Queens, Staten island, Yonkers, New Rochelle, Mt. Vernon, for so much as 5 minutes to shake the hands of a few regular decent working people?
Even once?
Has obama ever once held anything whatsoever for blacks or inner city people? Not that I can tell. The only thing obama does for blacks is mock them and yell at them to take off their bedroom slippers and STFU and stop complaining.
Case in point.
I believe your rambling tirade left out "the gays" and Kenyan Muslim brothers that Obama sleeps with .
Lots of anger and rant without a lot of actual policy .
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I believe your rambling tirade left out "the gays" and Kenyan Muslim brothers that Obama sleeps with .
Lots of anger and rant without a lot of actual policy .
That would be Larry Sinclaire and Hasan Chandoo - thank you for reminding me
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Once Obama gets reelected, we begin Michelle's presidential campaign.
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Wonder if kanye west is going to vote for Obama
Question is.....Can Kanye West vote?
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Question is.....Can Kanye West vote?
Samuel Jackson has made his vote pretty clear :D
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/12/samuel-l-jackson-obama-vote-black_n_1271797.html
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/27/samuel-l-jackson-wake-the-fk-up-for-obama/
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Samuel Jackson has made his vote pretty clear :D
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/12/samuel-l-jackson-obama-vote-black_n_1271797.html
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/27/samuel-l-jackson-wake-the-fk-up-for-obama/
They should tax the shit outta him or better yet should fork over half his earnings to the poor ::)
Celebrities and politics oh brother!
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They should tax the shit outta him or better yet should fork over half his earnings to the poor ::)
Celebrities and politics oh brother!
lol so you're suggesting that it was unusual for him to openly admit that he only votes for Obama because he's Black?
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lol so you're suggesting that it was unusual for him to openly admit that he only votes for Obama because he's Black?
Wake up and check yo self
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lol so you're suggesting that it was unusual for him to openly admit that he only votes for Obama because he's Black?
Lol, not at all man! He's honest about it I give him that , but other than his skin color being in common with 95% of the Obama supporters the similarities stop there, dude probably lives in a white republican area, drives high end luxury cars like rolls royces, maybachs, mbz, etc, celebrities are full of shit they vote democrat only to suit their own careers and feel like they relate to the common person, tell them to fork over half their earnings or tax the shit outta of them..
Jackson js just like any celeb but in his case just trying to get "street cred" from fellow blacks which he would never associate with.
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Lol, not at all man! He's honest about it I give him that , but other than his skin color being in common with 95% of the Obama supporters the similarities stop there, dude probably lives in a white republican area, drives high end luxury cars like rolls royces, maybachs, mbz, etc, celebrities are full of shit they vote democrat only to suit their own careers and feel like they relate to the common person, tell them to fork over half their earnings or tax the shit outta of them..
Jackson js just like any celeb but in his case just trying to get "street cred" from fellow blacks which he would never associate with.
Bevo, what do you think about Willard publicly and privately speaking out against "redistribution"....after his parents were on welfare?
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Bevo, what do you think about Willard publicly and privately speaking out against "redistribution"....after his parents were on welfare?
Why do I have this feeling this is a spin job? Again, this is typical.
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WoW indeed
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/mitt-romney/9564529/Mitt-Romney-why-dont-aeroplane-windows-open.html
Americans really do sometimes struggle with subtle humour. But what makes this joke somewhat ironic is that in some fire situations the airplane doors have been opened, which gives oxygen to the passengers but also feeds the fire.
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Why do I have this feeling this is a spin job? Again, this is typical.
You think it is a "spin job" because you are uninformed.
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This shames me
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I really want to slap the stupid right out of her, but I don't think I'd survive the altercation. ::)
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The problem is this: The average american does not have the ability to truly understand the intricacies of economics and politics. That is why there are experts in the field who get PhDs and study this stuff like crazy. Most people, dems or republicans, just repeat what Romney or Obama are saying. They truly do not grasp the complexity of such systems. This is why most politicians appeal to voters emotions, because most people are not really going to understand politics. However, voters can understand issues that are deeply entrenched in emotion (gay marriage, pro life or pro choice).
Kind of makes you scared to think how many uninformed people do vote. Which is why I dont vote.
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My tax dollars at work.
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Clearly all Obama supporters are lazy welfare recipients who love free phones courtesy of the USA government.
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You think it is a "spin job" because you are uninformed.
The entire left is a spin job. You think a 27sec youtube video tells the whole story? You're delusional. You have Obama and his entire admin are lying their asses on a daily basis and suckers like yourself are falling for it. I guess the blatant lies he told in his first term wasn't enough.
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The entire left is a spin job. You think a 27sec youtube video tells the whole story? You're delusional. You have Obama and his entire admin are lying their asses on a daily basis and suckers like yourself are falling for it. I guess the blatant lies he told in his first term wasn't enough.
LOL, your response after being proven wrong because this story was NOT spun was, "the entire left is a spin job..." and "...Obama and his entire admin are lying their asses on a daily basis." Keep your gym, debating is not your forte.
In case you wanted to know why you were completely unaware of this video, it's because your only political information comes from Fox News or Rush.
To conclude, nothing is spun here Coach. You just heard and saw Mitt's own mother state this about Mitt's father:
“He was on welfare relief for the first years of his life. But this great country gave him opportunities. His family were poor...he said they lived for a year on nothing but potatoes."
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LOL, your response after being proven wrong because this story was NOT spun was, "the entire left is a spin job..." and "...Obama and his entire admin are lying their asses on a daily basis." Keep your gym, debating is not your forte.
In case you wanted to know why you were completely unaware of this video, it's because your only political information comes from Fox News or Rush.
To conclude, nothing is spun here Coach. You just heard and saw Mitt's own mother state this about Mitt's father:
“He was on welfare relief for the first years of his life. But this great country gave him opportunities. His family were poor...he said they lived for a year on nothing but potatoes."
Good for them. They got off and got rich which is what left hate. Like I said. Temporary assistance is fine but depending on it for the rest of your life makes that person a complete loser if they're able body. Morlst of these degenerates are perfectly healthy. If you don't think Obama and left don't want people.to be dependant on the government, your high.
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Fuck that stupid cotton.
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Good for them. They got off and got rich which is what left hate. Like I said. Temporary assistance is fine but depending on it for the rest of your life makes that person a complete loser if they're able body. Morlst of these degenerates are perfectly healthy. If you don't think Obama and left don't want people.to be dependant on the government, your high.
Wrong again Coach.
Here is the pertinent part of Obama's infamous 1998 speech:
“I actually believe in redistribution at least at a certain level to make sure that everybody’s got a shot.”
Looks like Obama's infamous sentence is exactly how the Romney's got their start/shot. Matter of fact, it is very similar to what Romney's mother's stated during her interview. Interestingly, Mitt Romney has divorced himself from his father's history. Very hypocritical and Sad.
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Wrong again Coach.
Here is the pertinent part of Obama's infamous 1998 speech:
“I actually believe in redistribution at least at a certain level to make sure that everybody’s got a shot.”
Looks like Obama's infamous sentence is exactly how the Romney's got their start/shot. Matter of fact, it is very similar to what Romney's mother's stated during her interview. Interestingly, Mitt Romney has divorced himself from his father's history. Very hypocritical and Sad.
Hahaha, are you kidding? I have nothing. I give up. You've just proven how delusional obamaites are. You're the precise reason why the left are not to be trusted. Zilch for integrity.
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Temporary assistance is fine
How long is "temporary"?
2 months? 2 years? 5 years?
That's where it gets tricky - that gray area where some level of re-distribution of others' wealth is acceptable.
In my opinion, you'd have to cut ALL assistance and welfare and unemployment (leave social security alone - those people did pay that).
Giving anyone ONE DAY of welfare is unacceptable - agree?
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How long is "temporary"?
2 months? 2 years? 5 years?
That's where it gets tricky - that gray area where some level of re-distribution of others' wealth is acceptable.
In my opinion, you'd have to cut ALL assistance and welfare and unemployment (leave social security alone - those people did pay that).
Giving anyone ONE DAY of welfare is unacceptable - agree?
I would put all of them on a farm in the sweltering heat for 8 hours day in the fields until they were motivated to go get gainful employment
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I would put all of them on a farm in the sweltering heat for 8 hours day in the fields until they were motivated to go get gainful employment
I would just tell them "jan 21, 2013, the money is GONE. Accept it.
I disagree with Coach on this one that "temporary" welfare is okay. Cause now it's up to some politician to decide 3 months of free money is okay, but 4 months is suddenly evil socialism.
Zero is acceptable. Same with unemployment. Right?
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And I'm being completely serious here - I get mad when people call social security 'entitlement' when people were FORCED to give up THEIR MONEY by the government - it's their own damn money, and the average american pays in over $350k in their lifetime.
Telling a man "I know you worked 40 years and paid us $400 grand, but you wanting it back is ENTITLEMENT" is crap.
however, welfare, unemployment - the things that they DIDNT pay into - I'm fine with slashing all of that. But if the govt takes your money, it's yours.
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And I'm being completely serious here - I get mad when people call social security 'entitlement' when people were FORCED to give up THEIR MONEY by the government - it's their own damn money, and the average american pays in over $350k in their lifetime.
Telling a man "I know you worked 40 years and paid us $400 grand, but you wanting it back is ENTITLEMENT" is crap.
however, welfare, unemployment - the things that they DIDNT pay into - I'm fine with slashing all of that. But if the govt takes your money, it's yours.
Why do I have to pay in, when I'm not going to get any back? ???
On top of that, I'm perfectly capable of saving my own money.
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Wrong again Coach.
Here is the pertinent part of Obama's infamous 1998 speech:
“I actually believe in redistribution at least at a certain level to make sure that everybody’s got a shot.”
Looks like Obama's infamous sentence is exactly how the Romney's got their start/shot. Matter of fact, it is very similar to what Romney's mother's stated during her interview. Interestingly, Mitt Romney has divorced himself from his father's history. Very hypocritical and Sad.
So "everybody's" got a shot".....
You mean after affirmative action gives the pigmentally challenged a head start?
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So "everybody's" got a shot".....
You mean after affirmative action gives the pigmentally challenged a head start?
If Mitt's father was "pigmentally challenged" and if affirmative action applied to him...then, yes.
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Why do I have to pay in, when I'm not going to get any back? ???
On top of that, I'm perfectly capable of saving my own money.
You maybe able to save your own, but most Americans these days can't. It is becoming a sad place.
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Hahaha, are you kidding? I have nothing. I give up. You've just proven how delusional obamaites are. You're the precise reason why the left are not to be trusted. Zilch for integrity.
Interesting, still no substance whatsoever from your response. Not surprising.
Let's recap:
I ask Bevo:
Bevo, what do you think about Willard publicly and privately speaking out against "redistribution"....after his parents were on welfare?
You say:
Why do I have this feeling this is a spin job? Again, this is typical.
I prove you wrong using a very credible video clip as proof:
You think it is a "spin job" because you are uninformed.
Now, instead of giving any substance, you merely insult with no proof:
The entire left is a spin job. You think a 27sec youtube video tells the whole story? You're delusional. You have Obama and his entire admin are lying their asses on a daily basis and suckers like yourself are falling for it. I guess the blatant lies he told in his first term wasn't enough.
I explain why you are incorrect, yet again...using credible quotes:
LOL, your response after being proven wrong because this story was NOT spun was, "the entire left is a spin job..." and "...Obama and his entire admin are lying their asses on a daily basis." Keep your gym, debating is not your forte.
In case you wanted to know why you were completely unaware of this video, it's because your only political information comes from Fox News or Rush.
To conclude, nothing is spun here Coach. You just heard and saw Mitt's own mother state this about Mitt's father:
“He was on welfare relief for the first years of his life. But this great country gave him opportunities. His family were poor...he said they lived for a year on nothing but potatoes."
You claim that Obama wants "people" to be dependent on the government indefinitely, using no evidence to back your statement:
Good for them. They got off and got rich which is what left hate. Like I said. Temporary assistance is fine but depending on it for the rest of your life makes that person a complete loser if they're able body. Morlst of these degenerates are perfectly healthy. If you don't think Obama and left don't want people.to be dependant on the government, your high.
I explain why you are incorrect using a new quote and references from my previous posts:
Wrong again Coach.
Here is the pertinent part of Obama's infamous 1998 speech:
“I actually believe in redistribution at least at a certain level to make sure that everybody’s got a shot.”
Looks like Obama's infamous sentence is exactly how the Romney's got their start/shot. Matter of fact, it is very similar to what Romney's mother's stated during her interview. Interestingly, Mitt Romney has divorced himself from his father's history. Very hypocritical and Sad.
You again resort to insults, using nothing to back up your claims:
Hahaha, are you kidding? I have nothing. I give up. You've just proven how delusional obamaites are. You're the precise reason why the left are not to be trusted. Zilch for integrity.
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Coach, forget about politics and just enjoy your gym.
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I don't think you quite understand. Frankly I think its really beyond.your thinking so I will try again. Like the left media, you hear, read or see something that the left pits.out and you think It's a "gotcha" moment when in reality its nothing you, people like you and.left.media will.TRY to.make something of it all the while trying to divert from the real problem. As I stated, if they were on.welfare temporary, fine, they got on.their feet and were eventually successful. The ones.you see in.the video are the same people Obama is targeting. You don't get that, they live off the system, when.one runs.out they go to another system. My insults weren't really insults. He Muslim, hes grew up Marxist, did you really expect him.to change? These are well documented facts most in his own.words.
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I don't think you quite understand. Frankly I think its really beyond.your thinking so I will try again. Like the left media, you hear, read or see something that the left pits.out and you think It's a "gotcha" moment when in reality its nothing you, people like you and.left.media will.TRY to.make something of it all the while trying to divert from the real problem. As I stated, if they were on.welfare temporary, fine, they got on.their feet and were eventually successful. The ones.you see in.the video are the same people Obama is targeting. You don't get that, they live off the system, when.one runs.out they go to another system. My insults weren't really insults. He Muslim, hes grew up Marxist, did you really expect him.to change? These are well documented facts most in his own.words.
Again, you spew out a lot of text with nothing to back it up.
Back to the discussion WE were having:
1) Are you saying Romney did NOT publicly and privately state that he was against "Redistribution"?
2) Are you saying that Romney's father did not collect welfare?
3) Are you saying that does not make Romney a hypocrite?
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Nice diversion. This is about the savage in the video.
Again, you spew out a lot of text with nothing to back it up.
Back to the discussion WE were having:
1) Are you saying Romney did NOT publicly and privately state that he was against "Redistribution"?
2) Are you saying that Romney's father did not collect welfare?
3) Are you saying that does not make Romney a hypocrite?
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Shit that's peanuts compared to today and the people "abusing" the welfare system, i know 4 guys at the gym that I go to that are proud of taking advantage of the system. :-\ clearly these indiv. are healthy, mid 30's and able to work, I didn't know until I joked with these guys about being at the gym at the time and they told me I shit you not "thanks to obama, I'm able to not "work" much...
Yes, there are those that lose thier jobs due to misfortunate circumstances but from my experience and my youth at working at banks my college years the majority nowadays just take advantage!
I don't care I'll vote for whatever party just never democrats! I dislike freeloaders and all the illegals coming in doing jack shit and I grew up in California so I'm sick of seeing this and I've been working since I was 15, not once on any govt assist.
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Again, you spew out a lot of text with nothing to back it up.
Back to the discussion WE were having:
1) Are you saying Romney did NOT publicly and privately state that he was against "Redistribution"?
His definition of Redistribution is socialism meaning he thinks everyone should be equal, you damn well know this.
2) Are you saying that Romney's father did not collect welfare?
Nope, I'm saying he wasn't permanently dependent on the government
3) Are you saying that does not make Romney a hypocrite?
Fuck no it doesn't.
You're entire questioning is spin. Do you work for MSNBC?
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Nice diversion. This is about the savage in the video.
Reread my posts so you understand the discussion at hand. I mean, I laid out our entire discussion in a single message...doesn't get easier than that. Anyway, to simplify things for you, Bevo claimed Samuel L. Jackson was being hypocritical. So, I asked Bevo a question about Romney being hypocritical. Coach decided to join the discussion. We were discussing an issue that was not on point with the title of the thread. Pay attention 333, you're a lawyer...remember?
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You're entire questioning is spin. Do you work for MSNBC?
What's being spun, Coach? Crickets...as usual.
I guess if you aren't in the "No Spin Zone," you end up very confused.
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Welfare mobs.
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And I'm being completely serious here - I get mad when people call social security 'entitlement' when people were FORCED to give up THEIR MONEY by the government - it's their own damn money, and the average american pays in over $350k in their lifetime.
Telling a man "I know you worked 40 years and paid us $400 grand, but you wanting it back is ENTITLEMENT" is crap.
however, welfare, unemployment - the things that they DIDNT pay into - I'm fine with slashing all of that. But if the govt takes your money, it's yours.
Where did you get a crazy figure that anyone pays 350K in social security tax? That is an inflated made up figure. Maybe you are confusing federal tax paid. The truth is when you collect social security you get back every penny you paid into it in under two years.
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You mean one of those cheap Kyocera phones that drop calls, gets poor reception, and overall crappy quality?
Hell, that would make someone vote against Obama.
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they really thought they had obama on the phone?
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Interesting, still no substance whatsoever from your response. Not surprising.
Let's recap:
I ask Bevo:
You say:
I prove you wrong using a very credible video clip as proof:
Now, instead of giving any substance, you merely insult with no proof:
I explain why you are incorrect, yet again...using credible quotes:
You claim that Obama wants "people" to be dependent on the government indefinitely, using no evidence to back your statement:
I explain why you are incorrect using a new quote and references from my previous posts:
You again resort to insults, using nothing to back up your claims:
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Coach, forget about politics and just enjoy your gym.
33... aka shit for brains get his ass owned again :)
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Yes this is obamas fault.
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I would put all of them on a farm in the sweltering heat for 8 hours day in the fields until they were motivated to go get gainful employment
Sounds like the kind of solutions they came up with back in the USSR....interesting. How do you plan on paying for this program?
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Sounds like the kind of solutions they came up with back in the USSR....interesting. How do you plan on paying for this program?
We are paying for it now - just that we have a hard work requirement.
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Why do I have to pay in, when I'm not going to get any back? ???
On top of that, I'm perfectly capable of saving my own money.
The US Govt will take care of you when you're old. They will. SS will not be bankrupt. Originally, experts thought it would be broke in the 1960s. Still going 50 yars later.
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Money talks
Critics in Congress balk at tax hike to subsidize cellphone service for poor
By M.L. Nestel Sunday, October 2, 2011
Your phone bill will likely be higher this year — $7 more, in one scenario — to help pay for a government program you may never have heard of.
Last month, the Federal Communications Commission increased a tax on long-distance charges to help fund a government-sponsored phone service called Lifeline that provides more than 12 million low-income Americans with discounted or free cellular plans.
The tax, known as the universal connectivity fee, is assessed of carriers and generally passed along directly to customers. After the recent increase, the fee stands at an all-time high of 15.3 percent, up from 14.4 percent.
Last year, Lifeline ran up a $1.34 billion bill, exceeding the revenue generated by the fee. For many customers, the adjustment will cost just a “few extra pennies” a month, an FCC spokesman told The Daily.
Others may see a bit more of an effect: For the hypothetical customer whose monthly bill totals includes $50 in relevant long-distance charges, the universal connectivity fee would jump by about 60 cents, according to a scenario authenticated with the FCC. On an annual basis, the fee increase would cost this customer about $7.
Though that’s pocket change for some, the move has shined a new spotlight on a program that critics in Congress say is flawed and subject to abuse. “This government giveaway is another example of unnecessary and wasteful spending,” said Rep. Blake Farenthold, R-Texas, who wants to eliminate the subsidy he labels a backdoor tax.
But supporters say the program saves lives and keeps people in tough economic straits connected to the world. Many participants say they would have trouble getting by without it. “It saves me half as much as I was paying before,” said Helen Phillips, 40, of Tulsa, Okla. She supplements her temp jobs with SSI payments and receives help from a food pantry as well as subsidized cellular service under Lifeline. “Most of the time I use it for work and to call my family and friends,” she said.
To qualify for the program, a person must have an income at or less than 135 percent of the poverty level and already be accepting government support like food stamps or Medicaid. For a family of four, the eligibility threshold would be about $30,000. Verizon, AT&T and Sprint all offer Lifeline, as do many smaller carriers. The program also provides assistance to customers in rural and tribal areas and discounts on Internet access for eligible schools, libraries and health care providers.
But not all users are happy with the program. Teressa Brown, 42, also of Tulsa, said she received faulty equipment from her provider, one of the many independent carriers that have jumped into the business. “My phone went out on me in less than a month,” she said. “I requested for another one and they said they would replace it, but they told me I needed to rush them $40. I told them I would not do that.”
Cases like Brown’s have lawmakers in a twist. The poor service reports plus accusations of customers using multiple cellphones when permitted only one a household have sparked action in Washington.
Rep. Fred Upton, R-Mich., chairman of the House Committee on Energy and Commerce, is pushing for a more stringent steward at the phone switch.
“If this program is to be sustainable,” he said, “the FCC must reform it promptly, ending duplicative support for multiple carriers to serve a single household, preventing carriers from receiving support for services that consumers do not use, and pushing carriers to actually verify that their customers are eligible to participate in the program.”
The FCC is not directly in charge of Lifeline but has oversight and polices it. The service is outsourced to the Universal Service Administration Co., a nongovernmental, not-for-profit agency.
The talk of fraud is overstated, said Universal Service Administration spokesman Eric Iverson. “The consumer has to complete this certification saying under perjury, ‘I am eligible for this service,’” he said. “The companies tell us how many eligible consumers there are every month and we provide them up to $10 dollars per consumer as a subsidy.”
All states provide federal discounts of as much as $10 a month to those qualifying and all but nine offer added discounts of varying rates. The total of free minutes granted can range from 98 to 250.
Mark Wigfield of the FCC said that the Department of Justice deals with consumer fraud. “We’re responding to [critics] and reforming the rules,” he said. “It is one phone line per household. We recently clarified the rules to make sure people understood that.” He acknowledged, though, that multiple families can reside at the same address.
Economic woes have led more people to reach for Lifeline. “It’s gone up in recent years with more companies participating in the program,” Iverson said. “More people are qualifying.”
Cheryl Leanza, a media policy consultant, emphasized Lifeline’s cost benefits. “Your phone is more valuable if you can call anyone instead of just an assortment of people,” she said.
“Everybody with a telephone benefits the people that are on the network. We’re not talking about a lot of money,” she said.
After suffering two brain aneurisms, retired bottling factory worker Virginia Bandy, 71, moved from Chicago to Auburn, Ala., to be closer to family. Her concerned daughter insisted she get a cellphone and Lifeline helped. “Hopefully I don’t have to have an emergency and need to use it,” Bandy said.
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After suffering two brain aneurisms, retired bottling factory worker Virginia Bandy, 71, moved from Chicago to Auburn, Ala., to be closer to family. Her concerned daughter insisted she get a cellphone and Lifeline helped. “Hopefully I don’t have to have an emergency and need to use it,” Bandy said.
So you dont want Virginia here to be able to call for help ???
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After suffering two brain aneurisms, retired bottling factory worker Virginia Bandy, 71, moved from Chicago to Auburn, Ala., to be closer to family. Her concerned daughter insisted she get a cellphone and Lifeline helped. “Hopefully I don’t have to have an emergency and need to use it,” Bandy said.
So you dont want Virginia here to be able to call for help ???
How about her daughter fucking pay for it moron?
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How about her daughter fucking pay for it moron?
Lets start billion $ wars, give the rich tax breaks but lets not spend a few bucks on a cell phone for an old lady.
Sounds reasonable.
Ever wonder why nobody likes you?
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Lets start billion $ wars, give the rich tax breaks but lets not spend a few bucks on a cell phone for an old lady.
Sounds reasonable.
Ever wonder why nobody likes you?
STFU - i am not that ladys' keeper - her daughter is.
Let's see what the daughter is spemnding her $$$ on before I am stuck w the tab.
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STFU - i am not that ladys' keeper - her daughter is.
Let's see what the daughter is spemnding her $$$ on before I am stuck w the tab.
No idea but its a helluva lot less than the billions used on wars tax breaks etc..
But i guess its more "manly" to kick an old lady in her ass, huh?
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No idea but its a helluva lot less than the billions used on wars tax breaks etc..
But i guess its more "manly" to kick an old lady in her ass, huh?
STFU w your straw man bullshit.
And hey - go yell at O-Thug about the costs of the wars since he is as big a war monger as anyone.
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This slug would sell her freedom for a cell phone.
Sad.
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STFU - i am not that ladys' keeper - her daughter is.
Let's see what the daughter is spemnding her $$$ on before I am stuck w the tab.
So you are the rich peoples keeper and the keeper of republicans who starts wars and spending like mad, but you freak out because an old lady gets a cheap ass phone ???
Seriously?