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: ‘I Don’t Have The Time’ To Explain How We Will Pay For Our Tax Plan
By Adam Peck
For much of the general election, the Romney campaign has avoided any discussion of specifics, especially when it comes to the tax plan that he and Paul Ryan have put forward. On Fox News Sunday, host Chris Wallace gave Ryan an opportunity to finally talk about the details of his plan to a national audience, how much it will cost and how the Romney administration would pay for it.
Instead, Ryan said he didn’t have time to get into the nuts and bolts of the proposal:
WALLACE: So how much would it cost?
RYAN: It’s revenue neutral…
WALLACE: No no, I’m just talking about cuts. We’ll get to the deductions, but the cut in tax rates.
RYAN: The cut in tax rates is lowering all Americans’ tax rates by 20 percent.
WALLACE: Right, how much does that cost?
RYAN: It’s revenue neutral.
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WALLACE: But I have to point out, you haven’t given me the math.
Ryan: No, but you…well, I don’t have the time. It would take me too long to go through all of the math. But let me say it this way: you can lower tax rates by 20 percent across the board by closing loopholes and still have preferences for the middle class. For things like charitable deductions, for home purchases, for health care. So what we’re saying is, people are going to get lower tax rates.
well that's good enough for me braaaaaahahahahahahahaha
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Shocking isn't it. The worse candidate and VP since, well, the previous two clowns.
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: ‘I Don’t Have The Time’ To Explain How We Will Pay For Our Tax Plan
By Adam Peck
For much of the general election, the Romney campaign has avoided any discussion of specifics, especially when it comes to the tax plan that he and Paul Ryan have put forward. On Fox News Sunday, host Chris Wallace gave Ryan an opportunity to finally talk about the details of his plan to a national audience, how much it will cost and how the Romney administration would pay for it.
Instead, Ryan said he didn’t have time to get into the nuts and bolts of the proposal:
WALLACE: So how much would it cost?
RYAN: It’s revenue neutral…
WALLACE: No no, I’m just talking about cuts. We’ll get to the deductions, but the cut in tax rates.
RYAN: The cut in tax rates is lowering all Americans’ tax rates by 20 percent.
WALLACE: Right, how much does that cost?
RYAN: It’s revenue neutral.
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WALLACE: But I have to point out, you haven’t given me the math.
Ryan: No, but you…well, I don’t have the time. It would take me too long to go through all of the math. But let me say it this way: you can lower tax rates by 20 percent across the board by closing loopholes and still have preferences for the middle class. For things like charitable deductions, for home purchases, for health care. So what we’re saying is, people are going to get lower tax rates.
well that's good enough for me braaaaaahahahahahahahaha
Weak.
The rates are cut and the tax expenditures are closed.
Pretty simple.
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Ryan: No, but you…well, I don’t have the time. It would take me too long to go through all of the math.
If you have time to comment on refereeing in the NFL, you have time to tell us about the single most important economic plan of our time, which can save us from financial meltdown
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Weak.
The rates are cut and the tax expenditures are closed.
Pretty simple.
A nice way of saying for some people your tax rates will go up, some it will stay the same and for a few it will lower. What constitutes a loop hole is what needs to be defined. He isn't talking corporate loop holes,mind you, but mostly middle and lower class tax deductions the conservatives have wanted to eliminate for some time. That my friend is why he isn't being specific.
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A nice way of saying for some people your tax rates will go up, some it will stay the same and for a few it will lower. What constitutes a loop hole is what needs to be defined. He isn't talking corporate loop holes,mind you, but mostly middle and lower class tax deductions the conservatives have wanted to eliminate for some time. That my friend is why he isn't being specific.
Very well thought out response. Please explain Obama's tax policy.
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Very well thought out response. Please explain Obama's tax policy.
Like you gave a well thought-out answer on the other thread. Now be a good little doggy and roll over.
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Like you gave a well thought-out answer on the other thread. Now be a good little doggy and roll over.
Translation of the above quoted post: I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about, I don't know what the Obama administrations tax policy is and I pretended to know how the Romney/Ryan ticket will approach taxes.
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Translation of the above quoted post: I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about, I don't know what the Obama administrations tax policy is and I pretended to know how the Romney/Ryan ticket will approach taxes.
The fiction you write on getbig isn't any better than what you write on your sex site.
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: ‘I Don’t Have The Time’ To Explain How We Will Pay For Our Tax Plan
By Adam Peck
For much of the general election, the Romney campaign has avoided any discussion of specifics, especially when it comes to the tax plan that he and Paul Ryan have put forward. On Fox News Sunday, host Chris Wallace gave Ryan an opportunity to finally talk about the details of his plan to a national audience, how much it will cost and how the Romney administration would pay for it.
Instead, Ryan said he didn’t have time to get into the nuts and bolts of the proposal:
WALLACE: So how much would it cost?
RYAN: It’s revenue neutral…
WALLACE: No no, I’m just talking about cuts. We’ll get to the deductions, but the cut in tax rates.
RYAN: The cut in tax rates is lowering all Americans’ tax rates by 20 percent.
WALLACE: Right, how much does that cost?
RYAN: It’s revenue neutral.
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WALLACE: But I have to point out, you haven’t given me the math.
Ryan: No, but you…well, I don’t have the time. It would take me too long to go through all of the math. But let me say it this way: you can lower tax rates by 20 percent across the board by closing loopholes and still have preferences for the middle class. For things like charitable deductions, for home purchases, for health care. So what we’re saying is, people are going to get lower tax rates.
well that's good enough for me braaaaaahahahahahahahaha
That's a pretty fucking weak answer, especially from someone who, supposedly, is an expert on the subject. Good for Wallace for at least pushing him on this. If you don't think you have enough time, don't hide behind your finger - say that off the bat, give the 2 minute executive summary and say "you can find out the details at our website ... "
But of course in politics today - regardless of party - everything centers on not giving answers. It's all about slogans ("revenue-neutral") and mud-flinging.
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If you have time to comment on refereeing in the NFL, you have time to tell us about the single most important economic plan of our time, which can save us from financial meltdown
STFU asshole. You really are a lying sack of shit. Funny you never said shit about Obama tweeting about the NFL referees or going on the view.
Yeah, you hive a damn about the economy and are voting for romneny? Whatever liar. ::) ::).
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STFU asshole. You really are a lying sack of shit. Funny you never said shit about Obama tweeting about the NFL referees or going on the view.
Yeah, you hive a damn about the economy and are voting for romneny? Whatever liar. ::) ::).
I shit all over obama for going on the view and not meeting with foreign leaders. I posed the question and i think i even pointed out that every pres for 20 years has met with foreign leaders at the UN thing - except obama. I posed the debate "would romney/right-wing pundits attack obama for meeting with muslim brotherhood" if he met with new leadership from middle east, as he should be doing.
Since you asked, no, obama shouldn't be tweeting. Remember I said mitt should start the debate by saying "Mr Obama, wipe that grin off your face... there's nothing to smile about. 40 million americans need jobs and people are starving. You haven't earned the right to smile like that. You fix things like you were elected to do - and THEN you can smile.
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I shit all over obama for going on the view and not meeting with foreign leaders. I posed the question and i think i even pointed out that every pres for 20 years has met with foreign leaders at the UN thing - except obama. I posed the debate "would romney/right-wing pundits attack obama for meeting with muslim brotherhood" if he met with new leadership from middle east, as he should be doing.
Since you asked, no, obama shouldn't be tweeting. Remember I said mitt should start the debate by saying "Mr Obama, wipe that grin off your face... there's nothing to smile about. 40 million americans need jobs and people are starving. You haven't earned the right to smile like that. You fix things like you were elected to do - and THEN you can smile.
Bullshit. You never said a fcking word when it happened. Your spin and lies are so ridiculous
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Bullshit. You never said a fcking word when it happened. Your spin and lies are so ridiculous
you want him to point every bullshit obama thing....but your yourself never slam Romney for any of his bullshit. your only re butte is ABO.. and you know Romney is a fuck up too...so you my friend need to shut the fuck up you little bitch
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Bullshit. You never said a fcking word when it happened. Your spin and lies are so ridiculous
Actually I did shit all over obama for it. Almost a week ago, remember? I started a thread pointing it out, getting that debate rolling.
Bush met with a lot of foreign leaders whenever they were in NYC for the UN stuff. Pakistan, Egypt, and many others, and he did it a lot.
Morning Joe was criticizing Obama for not having a quick 15 minute meeting with foreign leaders - in particular the new president of Egypt. A major power in that region, brand new leader, and Obama is on the view.
Should obama be meeting with people like him this week?
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Actually I did shit all over obama for it. Almost a week ago, remember? I started a thread pointing it out, getting that debate rolling.
And you asked a question, you didn't condemn it. Yeah you are voting for Romney. Whatever.
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If you have time to comment on refereeing in the NFL, you have time to tell us about the single most important economic plan of our time, which can save us from financial meltdown
Good post
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Good post
So you admit obama hanging we Jay Z and Bee along w going on the View w the c unt rags was a douchebag move?
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Translation of the above quoted post: I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about, I don't know what the Obama administrations tax policy is and I pretended to know how the Romney/Ryan ticket will approach taxes.
Translation of the above post: I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about, I don't know what the Romney/Ryan administrations tax policy is and they wont tell me but its okay i dont need to now because i love the GOP and will vote for them no matter what.
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Translation of the above post: I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about, I don't know what the Romney/Ryan administrations tax policy is and they wont tell me but its okay i dont need to now because i love the GOP and will vote for them no matter what.
Hey idiot - he was talking about in terms of the interview. The math to explain probably would take hours and could not be done in a 5 minute interview.
You libtards are really a bunch of dopes.
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Hey idiot - he was talking about in terms of the interview. The math to explain probably would take hours and could not be done in a 5 minute interview.
You libtards are really a bunch of dopes.
Yes and republicans have a attention life span of 2 min so they wouldnt get it anyway. Got it.
Remind me again why he didnt use for instance his time on the posium an the convention to explain a little instead of just talking BS? Nobody knows their plan not even themselves
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Hey idiot - he was talking about in terms of the interview. The math to explain probably would take hours and could not be done in a 5 minute interview.
It's perfectly reasonable that a detailed answer can't be given in 5 minutes. But he should have said that outright, given a general overview of the position and closed with "for the details of our plan, check out our website at <whatever>." Instead he weaseled out and spat out the "revenue-neutral" nonsense, which wasn't even answering the question posed to him...
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It's perfectly reasonable that a detailed answer can't be given in 5 minutes. But he should have said that outright, given a general overview of the position and closed with "for the details of our plan, check out our website at <whatever>." Instead he weaseled out and spat out the "revenue-neutral" nonsense, which wasn't even answering the question posed to him...
The end result of any "plan" even if they do win will not look like anything being promised or outlined now.
Look at ObamaCare for fucks sake.
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The end result of any "plan" even if they do win will not look like anything being promised or outlined now.
No doubt, but that's another topic. Besides, it doesn't mean that they shouldn't even bother answering questions. If it does, then what's the point of having them on TV, giving interviews or telling us their plans?
Besides, I don't believe that "we need to vote for the Bill to see what's in it." We should hold the politicos accountable. If they refuse to tell us what's on the menu, they shouldn't get elected. And if they get elected on promises of filet mignon but deliver chicken nuggets instead, then they shouldn't get reelected.
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The end result of any "plan" even if they do win will not look like anything being promised or outlined now.
Look at ObamaCare for fucks sake.
He can calim he will fix the economy and create 20 million new jobs etc but cant give any specifics because it "To complex".
Sounds perfectly reasonable ::)
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He can calim he will fix the economy and create 20 million new jobs etc but cant give any specifics because it "To complex".
Sounds perfectly reasonable ::)
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This is what Slumdog POTUS put out remember?
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LOL -
This is what Slumdog POTUS put out remember?
So Ryan's inability to answer is, somehow, OK because of Obama? ::)
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So Ryan's inability to answer is, somehow, OK because of Obama? ::)
No - I think they are all full of shit.
Ryan should have a breakdown at a site or something he could have pointed to or a book or handout. I agree w that.
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you want him to point every bullshit obama thing....but your yourself never slam Romney for any of his bullshit. your only re butte is ABO.. and you know Romney is a fuck up too...so you my friend need to shut the fuck up you little bitch
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Romney has not fucked up the country yet. Obama already did. When and if Romney does - i will call him out on it.
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And you asked a question, you didn't condemn it. Yeah you are voting for Romney. Whatever.
WTF I brought it up BEFORE YOU DID lol... I started a thread on it, calling out obama for going on the view and not meeting leaders.
I didn't comment on your Q? Maybe because I felt I had already answered the question haha!
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Romney has not fucked up the country yet. Obama already did. When and if Romney does - i will call him out on it.
aye man.. youre about as weak as watered down Quarter Juice. Thats some bitch ass bullshit weak ass cop out..
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aye man.. youre about as weak as watered down Quarter Juice. Thats some bitch ass bullshit weak ass cop out..
Why? I have already said i did not like romney how many times already going back to the primaries and started threads on it?
Show me one thread you ever started attacking obama for his bullshit - EVER!
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Why? I have already said i did not like romney how many times already going back to the primaries and started threads on it?
Show me one thread you ever started attacking obama for his bullshit - EVER!
I have seen any threads youve started. And i do call Obama out on the bullshit. and you know it as this might be the 100000000th time im telling you this. Dick
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I have seen any threads youve started. And i do call Obama out on the bullshit. and you know it as this might be the 100000000th time im telling you this. Dick
Whatever - your biggest beef is that he did not go full blown communism and further to the left on the crazy.
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Whatever - your biggest beef is that he did not go full blown communism and further to the left on the crazy.
Lol.. no.. youre an idiot.. but what ever the beef is, Oh god of hyperbole, its still a beef... and i express it.. thats more than what you do with gov romney
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Lol.. no.. youre an idiot.. but what ever the beef is, Oh god of hyperbole, its still a beef... and i express it.. thats more than what you do with gov romney
LOL. I have voluminous posts being disgusted w romney - but its for reasons vastly different than the 94ers, layabouts, communists, and liberal dolts do.
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LOL. I have voluminous posts being disgusted w romney - but its for reasons vastly different than the 94ers, layabouts, communists, and liberal dolts do.
blah blah blah.. more hot air.... shut up chump
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blah blah blah.. more hot air.... shut up chump
LOL - I have far more posts against romney than you do obama.
However, my disgust w romney is nothing near the reality of the magnitude of the failures and disasters of obama's own making that he deserves to be ousted from office for.
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No - I think they are all full of shit.
Ryan should have a breakdown at a site or something he could have pointed to or a book or handout. I agree w that.
Cool - we agree on that.
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Weak.
The rates are cut and the tax expenditures are closed.
Pretty simple.
sure then all he has to do is tell us which rates he will cut and what expenditures are "closed"
from his first budget we know he's like to have a zero tax rate on capital gains and dividends and we know he'd like to cut just about anything that helps the average american or to make it simple ....cut taxes on the wealthy and then cut federal expenditures that benefit the middle and lower classes to pay for it....and it will balance the budget in about 60 years
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Weak.
The rates are cut and the tax expenditures are closed.
Pretty simple.
You are a smart guy Gigantor i know you are not satisfied with this answer and neither am I