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Billionaire 'King of Versailles' has voting advice for 7,000 employees: If Obama wins, you're fired.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/mogul-warns-employees-vote-obama-lose-job-article-1.1179256
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Florida billionaire warns employees about voting for Obama, says he may have to fire them if the president is re-elected
David Siegel, CEO of Westgate Resorts, defended his email meant to 'educate' employees, saying it was not a threat. He said other employers afraid to do the same have privately expressed their support.
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/valuedemployees.asp
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hate to say it but he didnt become a billionaire being a democrat ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
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Damn, look at his house. I wonder how many rooms it has.
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/valuedemployees.asp
Seriously? Snopes? It's owned by a flaming liberal. What did you expect? Truth? haha.
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Seriously? Snopes? It's owned by a flaming liberal. What did you expect? Truth? haha.
Well, its been posted by other sources as well.
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While he's more than likely an asshole, he has every right to be. He played the game the right way and doesn't liked being taxed to death, it is his right. I support his right but not his decision although I understand.
Milton G. Wiggins III
OLYMPIAN of the First Order
New World Order
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While he's more than likely an asshole, he has every right to be. He played the game the right way and doesn't liked being taxed to death, it is his right. I support his right but not his decision although I understand.
Milton G. Wiggins III
OLYMPIAN of the First Order
New World Order
Wiggs, speak about the NWO.
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People like this are what is wrong with this country.
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Wiggs, speak about the NWO.
Oh boy, how much time you got? I can do this for a living.
I'll say this cause I'm about go get some poontang (no pay).
The unregulated derivatives market is what will cause the dollar to crash. It's all orchestrated though. The fed is just pumping money into it to artificially hold it up (See QE1, QE2, and now QE3...Quantitative Easing) All this does is flood the market with more of our dollars and causes the value of it to decrease. This can only go on so long, but since it's planned to bring in a world currency and New World Order ran by Corporations around the world by the elites, this is not a problem in their mind.
When they are ready, they'll pull the plug and there will be economic collapse on a global scale. They've bought up most of the Gold and Silver and this the new currency will be backed by this. All this is planned, we can't say we werent warned. Elitist Elder Bush warned us when he was president....Youtube it.
As far December 21st goes, it's getting closer and things are getting worse. I have no doubt they know the significance of this date and have made plans around it. We'll be at our solar peak and if things get as bad as they are alleged to get, it could fuck alot things up....This date will not pass without it affecting everyone on this planet... How's that for a teaser?...........BTW it can't be reversed at this point....
Milton G. Wiggins III
OLYMPIAN of the First Order
New World Order
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Why even vote, just ask the 1000 richest and most powerful. They make all the decisions anyway.
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Democracy of peace :o
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Oh boy, how much time you got? I can do this for a living.
I'll say this cause I'm about go get some poontang (no pay).
The unregulated derivatives market is what will cause the dollar to crash. It's all orchestrated though. The fed is just pumping money into it to artificially hold it up (See QE1, QE2, and now QE3...Quantitative Easing) All this does is flood the market with more of our dollars and causes the value of it to decrease. This can only go on so long, but since it's planned to bring in a world currency and New World Order ran by Corporations around the world by the elites, this is not a problem in their mind.
When they are ready, they'll pull the plug and there will be economic collapse on a global scale. They've bought up most of the Gold and Silver and this the new currency will be backed by this. All this is planned, we can't say we werent warned. Elitist Elder Bush warned us when he was president....Youtube it.
As far December 21st goes, it's getting closer and things are getting worse. I have no doubt they know the significance of this date and have made plans around it. We'll be at our solar peak and if things get as bad as they are alleged to get, it could fuck alot things up....This date will not pass without it affecting everyone on this planet... How's that for a teaser?...........BTW it can't be reversed at this point....
Milton G. Wiggins III
OLYMPIAN of the First Order
New World Order
Wiggs, I heard something different about 12/21/2012/. I read that people will become closer to the environment and more in touch with nature.
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Why even vote, just ask the 1000 richest and most powerful. They make all the decisions anyway.
This.
Its all smoke and mirrors. I bet its even less than 100 people. Probably a handful of people who really control the world. Everything else is all show.
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Wiggs, I heard something different about 12/21/2012/. I read that people will become closer to the environment and more in touch with nature.
;D ;D ;D
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Seriously? Snopes? It's owned by a flaming liberal. What did you expect? Truth? haha.
Care to elaborate?
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/04/snopescom/
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hate to say it but he didnt become a billionaire being a democrat ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
the two have absolutely nothing to do with eachother
success in business and political ideology are completely separate issues
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;D ;D ;D
I wonder if Wiggs will become a hippie and hug a tree after 12/21/2012 :D :D
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While he's more than likely an asshole, he has every right to be. He played the game the right way and doesn't liked being taxed to death, it is his right. I support his right but not his decision although I understand.
Milton G. Wiggins III
OLYMPIAN of the First Order
New World Order
yes, the 3% increase on income tax for the top 2% of earners, truly, taxing people to death.
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Care to elaborate?
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/04/snopescom/
Yeah, I would. But before I do see who "factcheck" is funded by. The Annenburg Foundation, a 100% Liberal group and Obama sat on it's board from like 1995-6 to 2001.
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yes, the 3% increase on income tax for the top 2% of earners, truly, taxing people to death.
Please tbombz, stay out of political threads.
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Please tbombz, stay out of political threads.
And every other thread he posts in!
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3% increase !!!! RUN FO YO LIFE !!!!
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3% increase !!!! RUN FO YO LIFE !!!!
When was the last time you payed taxes? (Income)
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When was the last time you payed taxes? (Income)
no, your totally right, 3% increase on people making 250k in profit(after deductions and all expenses are taking into account) per year is just absolutely crippling and certainly not something the economy or an individual could deal with.
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top marginal tax rate in 1950 = 90%
top marginal tax rate today= 35%
which period experienced better growth ?
;D
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top marginal tax rate in 1950 = 90%
top marginal tax rate today= 35%
which period experienced better growth ?
;D
You're COMPLETELY clueless.
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top marginal tax rate in 1950 = 90%
top marginal tax rate today= 35%
which period experienced better growth ?
;D
Sorry Coach...tbombs makes a much more cogent and compelling argument than you do.
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Sorry Coach...tbombs makes a much more cogent and compelling argument than you do.
lol....I'll let you figure out the difference between 1950 and today. Maybe tbombz can pull it from factcheck. LOL
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Sorry Coach...tbombs makes a much more cogent and compelling argument than you do.
these guys are acting like the difference betweeen 35% and 38% is ideologically/economically significant ;D
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these guys are acting like the difference betweeen 35% and 38% is ideologically/economically significant ;D
You don't understand and please don't pretend you do.
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You don't understand and please don't pretend you do.
i understand, you think that increased taxes by 3% on people who make over 250k per year is going to damage the economy in a significant way.
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Seriously? Snopes? It's owned by a flaming liberal JEWs. What did you expect? Truth? haha.
Fixed
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these guys are acting like the difference betweeen 35% and 38% is ideologically/economically significant ;D
This.
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This.
am i blind? i dont see any changes
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lol....I'll let you figure out the difference between 1950 and today. Maybe tbombz can pull it from factcheck. LOL
1) Organized labor had much larger inroads in the workplace.
2) New Deal structures were still fully in place which allowed wealth to trickle down more effectively to the middle class.
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You're COMPLETELY clueless.
You mean that its ok that middle class income has stagnated since the 1970s while the top 1% earns more and more of the nations gross national income?
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am i blind? i dont see any changes
I didn't make any because I agree with you. Note that I said "this" not "fixed."
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Haha, another republican moron
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Interesting to see that the people that have benefited most from freedom at the same time hate freedom for other people.
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Interesting to see that the people that have benefited most from freedom at the same time hate freedom for other people.
Nothing new here...
(http://www.cbpp.org/images/cms//6-25-10inc-f1.jpg)
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Nothing new here...
(http://www.cbpp.org/images/cms//6-25-10inc-f1.jpg)
Indeed.
NB: I support his right to say and do this, because I believe in freedom for everyone. I think he's an idiot, but there's no law against that.
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Indeed.
NB: I support his right to say and do this, because I believe in freedom for everyone. I think he's an idiot, but there's no law against that.
Sure, he may have his own opinion, but threatening employees to "think" the same is a serious violation.
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I didn't make any because I agree with you. Note that I said "this" not "fixed."
;D
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Damn, look at his house. I wonder how many rooms it has.
2-3 big ones. Those people tend to like their toilets spacey.
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Oh boy, how much time you got? I can do this for a living.
I'll say this cause I'm about go get some poontang (no pay).
The unregulated derivatives market is what will cause the dollar to crash. It's all orchestrated though. The fed is just pumping money into it to artificially hold it up (See QE1, QE2, and now QE3...Quantitative Easing) All this does is flood the market with more of our dollars and causes the value of it to decrease. This can only go on so long, but since it's planned to bring in a world currency and New World Order ran by Corporations around the world by the elites, this is not a problem in their mind.
When they are ready, they'll pull the plug and there will be economic collapse on a global scale. They've bought up most of the Gold and Silver and this the new currency will be backed by this. All this is planned, we can't say we werent warned. Elitist Elder Bush warned us when he was president....Youtube it.
As far December 21st goes, it's getting closer and things are getting worse. I have no doubt they know the significance of this date and have made plans around it. We'll be at our solar peak and if things get as bad as they are alleged to get, it could fuck alot things up....This date will not pass without it affecting everyone on this planet... How's that for a teaser?...........BTW it can't be reversed at this point....
Milton G. Wiggins III
OLYMPIAN of the First Order
New World Order
quoted to make a fucking fool out of you on Dec 22nd ;)
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Good for him.
Fuck Obama and those voting him. They deserve to lose their jobs if they vote for him.
Billionaire 'King of Versailles' has voting advice for 7,000 employees: If Obama wins, you're fired.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/mogul-warns-employees-vote-obama-lose-job-article-1.1179256
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Florida billionaire warns employees about voting for Obama, says he may have to fire them if the president is re-elected
David Siegel, CEO of Westgate Resorts, defended his email meant to 'educate' employees, saying it was not a threat. He said other employers afraid to do the same have privately expressed their support.
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Good for him.
Fuck Obama and those voting him. They deserve to lose their jobs if they vote for him.
You will lose your job someday with that big mouth of yours, no matter who you vote for.
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You will lose your job someday with that big mouth of yours, no matter who you vote for.
I work for myself so i don't give a shit.
And I repeat - if stupid idiots want to vote for a ghetto street communist like obama who is attacking their employer - than said employer should fire those employees and let those morons fend for themselves.
Enough is enough with this leftist bullshit from Obama.
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12/21/12 = Y2K2
A big nothing! You'll do what you normally do that day.
And this guys is right. Vote for Obama if you want to hurt the job makers, and ultimately yourself.
It's that simple.
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I work for myself so i don't give a shit.
And I repeat - if stupid idiots want to vote for a ghetto street communist like obama who is attacking their employer - than said employer should fire those employees and let those morons fend for themselves.
Enough is enough with this leftist bullshit from Obama.
LOL, seems like you're a big believer in democracy.
BTW, I presume you have clients and/or business contacts and you're prob not that smart to keep your big mouth in real life, just saying ;)
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LOL, seems like you're a big believer in democracy.
BTW, I presume you have clients and/or business contacts and you're prob not that smart to keep your big mouth in real life, just saying ;)
Most of my clients hate obama as much as I do and have no problem voicing said hatred.
Again - if employees want to vote for a ghetto poverty / race merchant like obama in order to attack their employer - than said employer should fire every single obama voter on the payroll and show them the door.
I have no problem w that at all.
Obama voters deserve to feel the results of the policies they are supporting and voting for. Fuck em all. Let them all go on welfare and food stamps.
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Most of my clients hate obama as much as I do and have no problem voicing said hatred.
Again - if employees want to vote for a ghetto poverty / race merchant like obama in order to attack their employer - than said employer should fire every single obama voter on the payroll and show them the door.
I have no problem w that at all.
Obama voters deserve to feel the results of the policies they are supporting and voting for. Fuck em all. Let them all go on welfare and food stamps.
Then, for once, why don't you shut the fark up about it? Cripes.
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Then, for once, why don't you shut the fark up about it? Cripes.
Don't worry monkey - Obama only has a few weeks left in his disastrous presidency before being sent back to Kenya where he belongs.
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I'm for cutting taxes to 10% flat tax and reducing government size/spending drastically. But, this guy rubs me the wrong way with his "you people get to go home at the end of the day and I worry about this company day and night, 7 days a week" spiel. It's his choice to have a business, so don't whine and complain to the employees about how much work it is. While he's sitting under a palm tree in the Caribbean, middle class could also be sitting on their couch drawing food stamps instead of working at his company.
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Don't worry monkey - Obama only has a few weeks left in his disastrous presidency before being sent back to Kenya where he belongs.
Chimps are apes, not monkeys, Counselor. Epic skill set going on. Your imaginary clients pay extra for that, do they? :-\
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I'm for cutting taxes to 10% flat tax and reducing government size/spending drastically. But, this guy rubs me the wrong way with his "you people get to go home at the end of the day and I worry about this company day and night, 7 days a week" spiel. It's his choice to have a business, so don't whine and complain to the employees about how much work it is. While he's sitting under a palm tree in the Caribbean, middle class could also be sitting on their couch drawing food stamps instead of working at his company.
Exactly. He could cash out at any time and retire in style, but he apparently likes what he does. His employees can be fired at any time and will then be relegated to poverty. I think they have a bit more to be worried about.
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I'm for cutting taxes to 10% flat tax and reducing government size/spending drastically. But, this guy rubs me the wrong way with his "you people get to go home at the end of the day and I worry about this company day and night, 7 days a week" spiel. It's his choice to have a business, so don't whine and complain to the employees about how much work it is. While he's sitting under a palm tree in the Caribbean, middle class could also be sitting on their couch drawing food stamps instead of working at his company.
Which is why he makes the big bucks. There is something to be said for being able to just shrug it off at 5 o'clock. I own my own business, and believe me, sometimes it owns me. I treat my employees fair, and they are all on salary except my secretary. That being said, some of the literature that I receive, such as from the NFIB, states that with the expiration of the Bush tax cuts, that a substantial amount of the write offs will be capped/done away with. So, that 3% you speak of seems to be a bit of a rouse. Certain things that my company owns, are things that I need personally, such as pick up trucks etc. Now, I'm not Leona Helmsley putting travertine floors in my house and saying it was in one of my hotels, but I do enjoy certain write offs that benefit me personally as well as in business. The fact is, and I've said it before, my reason for voting for Romney, is not because I think that Obama is evil, or that he is purposely bankrupting our country, but because of what his constituents from the bottom end who vote for him represent. I vote for who I identify with, and who seems to be doing the best for MY interest. Until we become a fascist state, I will continue to do that until I am forced to vote for the good of the group and not myself.
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no, your totally right, 3% increase on people making 250k in profit(after deductions and all expenses are taking into account) per year is just absolutely crippling and certainly not something the economy or an individual could deal with.
Even if you took every single dollar from the top 1%, you have between 600 and 700 billion...witch wouldn't pay for 1 year of OBAMA debt.
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these guys are acting like the difference betweeen 35% and 38% is ideologically/economically significant ;D
It's entirely significant to those on the bubble of 250k.
For people with a mortage, kids, commuting expenses, etc...a 7,500 drop in income is big.
That's extra money left over that can go to paying a landscaper instead of doing it yourself, paying someone for laundry service, extra nights at restaurants, etc... Money that helps more than those who earned it.
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It's entirely significant to those on the bubble of 250k.
For people with a mortage, kids, commuting expenses, etc...a 7,500 drop in income is big.
That's extra money left over that can go to paying a landscaper instead of doing it yourself, paying someone for laundry service, etc... Money that helps more than those who earned it.
Obama wants it to keep the african ball washing program going.
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Not a bad house at all! :D
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Years ago I worked for a railroad.. I was told under no circumstances could anyone praise or endorse George bush.. They gave us all Kerry pins to wear.. One guy told me that if anyone stated out loud that they were republican they , the union, would find a way to get rid of you.. No different really..
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Years ago I worked for a railroad.. I was told under no circumstances could anyone praise or endorse George bush.. They gave us all Kerry pins to wear.. One guy told me that if anyone stated out loud that they were republican they , the union, would find a way to get rid of you.. No different really..
Did your union make you work all the live long day?
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lol chimpsy.
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EVERYBODY who has more MONEY than you is your ENEMY!
golden rule 8)
tax that filthy rich filth to death NOW!
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top marginal tax rate in 1950 = 90%
top marginal tax rate today= 35%
which period experienced better growth ?
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No one payed anywhere near 90% due to all the loopholes, which there were many. You don't know anything about history so stop quoting it like you do.
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So what this guy is doing is basically what the Unions always do...steering votes through fear of losing their jobs and benefits.
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EVERYBODY who has more MONEY than you is your ENEMY!
golden rule 8)
tax that filthy rich filth to death NOW!
Maybe it's the others fault because they don't have enough. Since when did they become entitled to the money I earned?
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Maybe it's the others fault because they don't have enough. Since when did they become entitled to the money I earned?
The consumer should pay the tax, not the earner. 1% federal sales tax, no federal income tax. Slash government to a bare minimum, no more social programs. Go to your family, local charity, church, etc. if help is needed.
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Even if you took every single dollar from the top 1%, you have between 600 and 700 billion...witch wouldn't pay for 1 year of OBAMA debt.
lol, which country are you referring to? Nigeria?
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The consumer should pay the tax, not the earner. 1% federal sales tax, no federal income tax. Slash government to a bare minimum, no more social programs. Go to your family, local charity, church, etc. if help is needed.
Think you missed the point. How much is too much? and everything is taxed and double taxed. Federal tax, state tax, income tax, sales tax, property tax, capitol gains tax, death tax, etc
http://www.nowandfutures.com/taxes.html
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Think you missed the point. How much is too much? and everything is taxed and double taxed. Federal tax, state tax, income tax, sales tax, property tax, capitol gains tax, death tax, etc
http://www.nowandfutures.com/taxes.html
It's already too much. 10% flat tax is plenty. Death tax and capitol gains tax are not necessary. As far as state income tax, everyone has the option to move to a more fiscally responsible state, and they should.
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Did your union make you work all the live long day?
Lol
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i understand, you think that increased taxes by 3% on people who make over 250k per year is going to damage the economy in a significant way.
What you are not seeing is it is mostly not single individuals but small businesses in these brackets. There are a very large amount of small businesses that still file at the individual level where that 3% means a hell of a lot. This is how it is crippling and a big deal.
Noone is arguing that a single person with that amount shouldn't care much but when that now also represents a business as well, everything changes. 3% + or - could make or break a business.
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liberals strike me as little weasels and smart asses
then you have the neeguls
the poor redneck trash
and these femenist wussy people
its funny how people openly want to be a liberal
republicans are cool except for the part where they are in kill mode and suck dealing with situations non violently
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What you are not seeing is it is mostly not single individuals but small businesses in these brackets. There are a very large amount of small businesses that still file at the individual level where that 3% means a hell of a lot. This is how it is crippling and a big deal.
Noone is arguing that a single person with that amount shouldn't care much but when that now also represents a business as well, everything changes. 3% + or - could make or break a business.
I know fuck-all about the US tax system, but I assumed we were talking about income tax? In which case this argument wouldn't hold, would it?
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Update - Do ya'll think this fella fired his 7,000 employees.
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Update - Do ya'll think this fella fired his 7,000 employees.
Do you think he decided to stop making money?