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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Training Q&A => Topic started by: chaos on October 22, 2012, 08:53:21 PM
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Man, I used to do a lot of front squating 1-2 years ago. Like 3 plates for 6 deep reps. Nowadays, I dont know, maybe 2 plates for 6-8 reps... ;D ;D
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About 80-90lbs less than regular squatting, the last time I did them.. The most powerful front squatters are the Olympic lifters. And usually from a very deep squat position (ass to the grass..indeed). Seen some of them warmup with 300-350lbs. Get an advantage when the heels are raise, like with Olympic boots/shoes or placing a 2X4/plates under the heels for BB'ing purposes. Great focus on the quads.
Maybe Funk51 knows the world record for front squats? Good Luck.
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275lbs before they become 1/4 reps.
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About 80-90lbs less than regular squatting, the last time I did them.. The most powerful front squatters are the Olympic lifters. And usually from a very deep squat position (ass to the grass..indeed). Seen some of them warmup with 300-350lbs. Get an advantage when the heels are raise, like with Olympic boots/shoes or placing a 2X4/plates under the heels for BB'ing purposes. Great focus on the quads.
Maybe Funk51 knows the world record for front squats? Good Luck.
raising the heels in squats can cause negative stress for the knees. I myself used to do this and its very old school...for the worst. I squat always bare foot and no heel raise. Bodybuilders at one point in the Golden years of Bodybuilding even squated on their toes. I would always say squat flat footed. Barbell hacks are another example where old school guys raised the heels.
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I dumped 405 last night, elbows dropped as I lowered. :-[
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I dumped 405 last night, elbows dropped as I lowered. :-[
That is heavy... i do not come near that. Do you do front squats for a reason or just part of your routine? They do hit the quads nice.
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A lot depends on the squatting style of the front squat, which may even increase the strength of the knee for some, when done correctly. If having a structural problem with the knees, than flat footed it is.( I also squat barefooted, which seems to give a better feel to the exercise...for me anyway.....always seemed to help with surfing, also) If setting the bar well on to the upper chest/shoulders, and elbows somewhat high, you are insuring a stronger base for the lift. Most BB'er seem not to get that important point. Only inviting lower back and knee problems with bad form.
BB Hacks are one of my favorite exercise. Think of it as a version of the DL, with the weight in better alinement with the spine/lower back and upper body and without having to work around the knees (for taller guy's the knees always seem to be a problem). BB Hacks will also give a better pump to the quads. Raising the heels allows better Quad recruitment and a better base for balance.
But than again, help yourself to what every exercise you think you should, or should not, be doing. Good Luck.
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315 for sets of ten many moons ago,never worked to limit on these. ;D joe meeko claimed singles with 600 lbs? who knows?
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Working with 315 for 4-6 right now.
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That is heavy... i do not come near that. Do you do front squats for a reason or just part of your routine? They do hit the quads nice.
I switch up every few weeks. I'm good for 365 for 3-4 depending on how bad I'm choking. :D
They do feel different in the quads, not a bad different just different.
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front squats do have a place in training.
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I'm not the biggest fan of front squats but they're good to mix with back squats.
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I'm not the biggest fan of front squats but they're good to mix with back squats.
and i agree with you because front squats hit the middle and lower quads very well..back squats hit it all upper quads and hip area very good.
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my front squat sucks...175lbs
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225 lbs for 2 reps in clean grip :)
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I'm not the biggest fan of front squats but they're good to mix with back squats.
What type of grip/stance do you find best? And I have never used but seen that manta ray thing that snaps on the bar..I used it for regular squats in the past but didn't need it..but the one for front squats might be cool.
MDN
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I should start them again..although im working on 'breathing squats' right now.
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What type of grip/stance do you find best? And I have never used but seen that manta ray thing that snaps on the bar..I used it for regular squats in the past but didn't need it..but the one for front squats might be cool.
MDN
I use the arms crossed hands on shoulders, elbows up high grip. Not flexible enough for the clean grip.
Stance is a bit wider than shoulder, same as regular squats.
Never tried the manta ray, I like to feel the steel. 8)
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135 max.
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chaos beast ,,,i like them but 'choke'feel and balance makes them a tad awkward,,,i did them alot yrs ago,,,
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Front squats are a learning exercise, which requires a bit of time to get the correct form down.
Most BB'ers have a tight shoulder girdle, alone with triceps. The stretching of the elbows, triceps, delts and shoulder joints will adapt better the more you practice the lift of resting the bar on the finger tips and front delts. As you advance, you can cross hands or do the hands free (arms stretched outward and slighlty above.) I find no great advantage in doing them hands free, but does look somewhat cool to some people.
Start with a very light bar and try not advancing the weight too quickly at first. Want to get into the habit of the bar within and resting on the front delts/upper pec's. May seem hard for the first couple of weeks but after that, can almost seem natural in a way. May also have to adjust the grip (middle-wider) depending on body type and the elbows. Want the bar setting correctly, else this great quad exercise loses a lot of it's value. Never lean forward when doing front squats, if you do than your using bad form or the weight is getting away from you or just too heavy to begin with. You can go very low in this exercise, though not always needed. Most BB'ers do a couple of inches below the 90 degree knee break. Can do bench front squats also, a very affected leg exercise.
Best single whole body exercise would be the squat clean (going very low) and jerk-press. Try that for 8 to 12 reps of 3 sets, if only having time for one exercise. Good Luck
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Guys with flexibility problems like to cross their arms but it's not as good as a traditional clean grip. One way to get around it is to use straps around the bar. Take your traditional straps and open them up. Loop them around the bar. Use an elbows up grip and grab the tails of the straps. This will allow you to keep your elbows high to create a nice shelf for the bar. Now you can go really deep and upright without dumping the bar.
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Guys with flexibility problems like to cross their arms but it's not as good as a traditional clean grip. One way to get around it is to use straps around the bar. Take your traditional straps and open them up. Loop them around the bar. Use an elbows up grip and grab the tails of the straps. This will allow you to keep your elbows high to create a nice shelf for the bar. Now you can go really deep and upright without dumping the bar.
nice post.. clean grip is great and really i hold the bar on my front delts and my finger tips
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Tried them once, not a fan.
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Guys with flexibility problems like to cross their arms but it's not as good as a traditional clean grip. One way to get around it is to use straps around the bar. Take your traditional straps and open them up. Loop them around the bar. Use an elbows up grip and grab the tails of the straps. This will allow you to keep your elbows high to create a nice shelf for the bar. Now you can go really deep and upright without dumping the bar.
THANK YOU! I tried this after your post. I am very very slowly starting to get used to this. Its perfect to do last and really burn out the quads.
MDN
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my front squat sucks...
This but about 150 for reps for me
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I've been doing front squats for a long time. I can do 375 for a triple ass to grass. I haven't attempted a single in many years, but i think i could do 405 on a good day. I actually front squat more with an arms crossed position than a clean grip. I do power cleans all the time and have gone up to around 335 on a good day, but when i do front squats alone it's a lot easier for me to use the crossed grip.
It takes a long time to get the form perfect on front squats. I don't have any issues with the bar choking me anymore, but it took a long time to get the form down. The best thing i ever did was invest in a good pair of weightlifting shoes and they made a big difference in my front squat. I can go ass to grass very easily with them. I don't use a belt or wraps, just me and the bar.
Good luck!
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I've been doing front squats for a long time. I can do 375 for a triple ass to grass. I haven't attempted a single in many years, but i think i could do 405 on a good day. I actually front squat more with an arms crossed position than a clean grip. I do power cleans all the time and have gone up to around 335 on a good day, but when i do front squats alone it's a lot easier for me to use the crossed grip.
It takes a long time to get the form perfect on front squats. I don't have any issues with the bar choking me anymore, but it took a long time to get the form down. The best thing i ever did was invest in a good pair of weightlifting shoes and they made a big difference in my front squat. I can go ass to grass very easily with them. I don't use a belt or wraps, just me and the bar.
Good luck!
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GOOD STUFF...I USE TO DO THEM ALOT...NEED TO GET BACK TO DOING THEM.
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olympic weightlifters use these to help them when they are in the clean position after the pull, remember seeing a pic of ken patera doing reps with 575 lbs. he was first american to clean and press 500 in comp.
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Ive slowly started doing them again in the last couple weeks..
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Off to the gym for legs, gonna start with front squats. :-)
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Off to the gym for legs, gonna start with front squats. :-)
I like doing them after leg extensions...but thatīs just my way