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Title: How late
Post by: Princess L on November 05, 2012, 12:15:47 PM
are you willing to stay up for results tomorrow or will you just wait til Wed. morning?
Title: Re: How late
Post by: Dos Equis on November 05, 2012, 12:20:31 PM
About 9 p.m. my time, which will be 2 a.m. EST.  Should have the results by then.
Title: Re: How late
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 05, 2012, 12:25:26 PM
Till 10pm since that is when its going to be called for Mittens. 

________________________ _____________________


Monday Morning (Noonan: It's Romney)
 WSJ ^ | 11/5/2012 | Peggy Noonan


Posted on Monday, November 05, 2012 3:14:38 PM by


Romney’s crowds are building—28,000 in Morrisville, Pa., last night; 30,000 in West Chester, Ohio, Friday It isn’t only a triumph of advance planning: People came, they got through security and waited for hours in the cold. His rallies look like rallies now, not enactments. In some new way he’s caught his stride. He looks happy and grateful. His closing speech has been positive, future-looking, sweetly patriotic. His closing ads are sharp—the one about what’s going on at the rallies is moving.

All the vibrations are right. A person who is helping him who is not a longtime Romneyite told me, yesterday: “I joined because I was anti Obama—I’m a patriot, I’ll join up But now I am pro-Romney.” Why? “I’ve spent time with him and I care about him and admire him. He’s a genuinely good man.” Looking at the crowds on TV, hearing them chant “Three more days” and “Two more days”—it feels like a lot of Republicans have gone from anti-Obama to pro-Romney.

Something old is roaring back. One of the Romney campaign’s surrogates, who appeared at a rally with him the other night, spoke of the intensity and joy of the crowd “I worked the rope line, people wouldn’t let go of my hand.” It startled him. A former political figure who’s been in Ohio told me this morning something is moving with evangelicals, other church-going Protestants and religious Catholics. He said what’s happening with them is quiet, unreported and spreading: They really want Romney now, they’ll go out and vote, the election has taken on a new importance to them.

There is no denying the Republicans have the passion now, the enthusiasm. The Democrats do not. Independents are breaking for Romney.


(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.wsj.com ...
Title: Re: How late
Post by: MCWAY on November 05, 2012, 02:55:44 PM
are you willing to stay up for results tomorrow or will you just wait til Wed. morning?

It may not take that long. Look at the Wisconsin recall. People were all ready to stay up all night. The race got called in less than an hour.

Now, it'll take a bit longer obviously with a national election. But, you may not have to burn the midnight oil for this one.
Title: Re: How late
Post by: Straw Man on November 05, 2012, 03:31:32 PM
are you willing to stay up for results tomorrow or will you just wait til Wed. morning?

a better question would be how long you're willing to stand in line in order to cast your vote

Thanks to some Republican governors you made need to stand in line for 8 hours or more but only if you're in a Democratic leaning district   
Title: Re: How late
Post by: 240 is Back on November 05, 2012, 04:07:28 PM
the polling and technology is VERY good these days.  We'll know by 8:30 when OHIO is called for one of the candidates.

We might not have confirmation 100%.... but if exit polls in FL, VA, and OH all match the same candidate - that dude is gonna win.
Title: Re: How late
Post by: Princess L on November 05, 2012, 04:27:38 PM
a better question would be how long you're willing to stand in line in order to cast your vote

 

I've already cast my vote, although I've NEVER had to wait more than 3 people even when long lines were predicted.  I wish I had waited, just to say hi to neighbors I rarely get to see.
Title: Re: How late
Post by: Fury on November 05, 2012, 04:29:11 PM
a better question would be how long you're willing to stand in line in order to cast your vote

Thanks to some Republican governors you made need to stand in line for 8 hours or more but only if you're in a Democratic leaning district   

Boohoo. We've had to show ID in CT for longer than I've been voting and it's still never taken more than 20 minutes to get in and out. Stop crying, you little bitch.


By the way, something like 78% of Americans support voter ID laws. Unlike you and your elitist, crony scum, the bulk of us don't like having our votes negated by the dead and illegal Mexicans.
Title: Re: How late
Post by: Straw Man on November 05, 2012, 04:42:53 PM
Boohoo. We've had to show ID in CT for longer than I've been voting and it's still never taken more than 20 minutes to get in and out. Stop crying, you little bitch.


By the way, something like 78% of Americans support voter ID laws. Unlike you and your elitist, crony scum, the bulk of us don't like having our votes negated by the dead and illegal Mexicans.

who mentioned ID's

do you think it's reasonable for people to have to stand in line for 8+ hours to vote and why does this only seem to happen in Democratic leaning districts ?

Do you think your parents will even let you stay up late enough to see who won the election ?
Title: Re: How late
Post by: tonymctones on November 05, 2012, 05:14:23 PM
who mentioned ID's

do you think it's reasonable for people to have to stand in line for 8+ hours to vote and why does this only seem to happen in Democratic leaning districts ?

Do you think your parents will even let you stay up late enough to see who won the election ?
turn off msnbc straw
Title: Re: How late
Post by: Straw Man on November 05, 2012, 05:34:17 PM
turn off msnbc straw

so you're suggesting that if I'm not aware that people are having to wait in line for 8 + hours that it's not happening ?
Title: Re: How late
Post by: tonymctones on November 05, 2012, 05:38:21 PM
so you're suggesting that if I'm not aware that people are having to wait in line for 8 + hours that it's not happening ?
hahah yes straw thats exactly what Im suggesting...
Title: Re: How late
Post by: Straw Man on November 05, 2012, 05:40:34 PM
hahah yes straw thats exactly what Im suggesting...

what is your point then

do you think people should have to wait in line for 8 hours to vote and if it only happens in democratic leaning districts and not in Republican leaning districts to you think that's fair (be honest -if you're fine with it then explain why)

btw - you can find the same story of Fox News if that makes you feel better
Title: Re: How late
Post by: tonymctones on November 05, 2012, 05:48:30 PM
what is your point then

do you think people should have to wait in line for 8 hours to vote and if it only happens in democratic leaning districts and not in Republican leaning districts to you think that's fair (be honest -if you're fine with it then explain why)

btw - you can find the same story of Fox News if that makes you feel better
please link your sources straw
Title: Re: How late
Post by: Straw Man on November 05, 2012, 05:54:34 PM
please link your sources straw

are you really unaware of this ?

this one say 6 hours although I've heard 8+ as well

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/04/florida-democrats-want-extended-early-voting-hours/

Quote
The Florida Democratic Party filed separate lawsuits to get four counties to offer more time for voting before Election Day. The other counties are Palm Beach, Miami-Dade and Broward.

Voters in those counties had to wait as long as six hours Saturday, the last scheduled day of early voting.

The state Republican party will not appeal the cases, filed in a Miami courthouse, though the group was reportedly considering such a move.

Voting in Miami-Dade County didn't conclude until about 1 a.m. Sunday because voters standing in line when the polls closed were allowed to vote.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/04/florida-democrats-want-extended-early-voting-hours/#ixzz2BP4X5v2B

Title: Re: How late
Post by: tonymctones on November 05, 2012, 06:00:39 PM
are you really unaware of this ?

this one say 6 hours although I've heard 8+ as well

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/04/florida-democrats-want-extended-early-voting-hours/


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/04/florida-democrats-want-extended-early-voting-hours/#ixzz2BP4X5v2B


LMFAO im not unaware of this, but youre saying this is the republicans fault?

WTF are you retarded?

how is a bomb threat that closed down polling and then the republicans not fighting keeping the polls open for 4 more hours the fault of republicans?

I dont see anything about this only happening in dem leaning districts either straw.
Title: Re: How late
Post by: Straw Man on November 05, 2012, 06:04:59 PM
LMFAO im not unaware of this, but youre saying this is the republicans fault?

WTF are you retarded?
how is a bomb threat that closed down polling and then the republicans not fighting keeping the polls open for 4 more hours the fault of republicans?

I dont see anything about this only happening in dem leaning districts either straw.

bomb threat was only one location

are you aware who runs the voting in FL ?
Title: Re: How late
Post by: tonymctones on November 05, 2012, 06:07:37 PM
bomb threat was only one location

are you aware who runs the voting in FL ?
so show me how the reps are to blame for any of this straw

show me how this is happening only in dem leaning districts.
Title: Re: How late
Post by: Straw Man on November 05, 2012, 06:11:53 PM
so show me how the reps are to blame for any of this straw

show me how this is happening only in dem leaning districts.

if you want to pretend to be naive or you are actually so that's fine with me

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/04/democrats-sue-to-extend-floridas-early-voting/

Last year, Mr. Scott and the Republican-controlled Legislature pushed through a measure to cut early voting from 14 days to 8 days and to cancel voting on the final Sunday before Election Day.



http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/04/democrats-sue-to-extend-floridas-early-voting/
Title: Re: How late
Post by: tonymctones on November 05, 2012, 06:16:49 PM
if you want to pretend to be naive or you are actually so that's fine with me

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/04/democrats-sue-to-extend-floridas-early-voting/

Last year, Mr. Scott and the Republican-controlled Legislature pushed through a measure to cut early voting from 14 days to 8 days and to cancel voting on the final Sunday before Election Day.



http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/04/democrats-sue-to-extend-floridas-early-voting/
so they did this all over Florida?

I dont see how this singles outs dems?
Title: Re: How late
Post by: Straw Man on November 05, 2012, 06:18:41 PM
so they did this all over Florida?

I dont see how this singles outs dems?

Why are the Dems suing

You dont think Repubs would sue if it effected them

maybe you missed this part of the article (seriously dude - why are you even pretending you don't know this shit)

In the South Florida suit, filed in Miami, Democrats argued that an emergency order was needed to “extend voting opportunities” before Tuesday in Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach Counties. They also urged that voters be allowed to cast absentee ballots in person in the counties’ main election offices. The three counties are home to about 32 percent of the state’s registered Democrats.
Title: Re: How late
Post by: tonymctones on November 05, 2012, 06:22:28 PM
Why are the Dems suing

You dont think Repubs would sue if it effected them

maybe you missed this part of the article (seriously dude - why are you even pretending you don't know this shit)

In the South Florida suit, filed in Miami, Democrats argued that an emergency order was needed to “extend voting opportunities” before Tuesday in Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach Counties. They also urged that voters be allowed to cast absentee ballots in person in the counties’ main election offices. The three counties are home to about 32 percent of the state’s registered Democrats.
The legislation effected the entire state, did it not?

if its effecting dems its effecting reps
Title: Re: How late
Post by: Straw Man on November 05, 2012, 06:26:52 PM
The legislation effected the entire state, did it not?

if its effecting dems its effecting reps


funny how the long lines are only in certain counties which just coincidentally have a large % of registered Democratic voters

there are 67 counties in FL so why are 3 counties which have a third of the states Dem voters having these problems

Seriously, stop pretending to be naive - do you truly believe that Republicans are not doing everything they legally can to suppress the vote

a simple yes or no is fine but if you want to elaborate then feel free
Title: Re: How late
Post by: tonymctones on November 05, 2012, 06:29:01 PM
funny how the long lines are only in certain counties which just coincidentally have a large % of registered Democratic voters

there are 67 counties in FL so why are 3 counties which have a third of the states Dem voters having these problems

Seriously, stop pretending to be naive - do you truly believe that Republicans are not doing everything they legally can to suppress the vote

a simple yes or no is fine but if you want to elaborate then feel free
HAHAHAHA so the entire state has to abide by the same rules yet the republicans are singling out democrats eh?

brilliant logic brainchild.

No I dont, only a delusional moron would.
Title: Re: How late
Post by: tonymctones on November 05, 2012, 06:30:10 PM
Do you really feel that a law that is applied to all districts equally is singling out democrats?

A simple yes or no is fine but if you want to elaborate feel free.
Title: Re: How late
Post by: Straw Man on November 05, 2012, 06:36:13 PM
HAHAHAHA so the entire state has to abide by the same rules yet the republicans are singling out democrats eh?

brilliant logic brainchild.

No I dont, only a delusional moron would.

this really is beyond your ability to understand

they can easily manipulate the wait times by simply having fewer voting machines in specific counties with the expectation that people won't choose to stand in line for 8 hours

I'm sure you'd be shocked to learn that a Republican politician would do such a thing but it would probably be easier for you to believe it if I told you a Dem was doing it to disinfrancise Repubs.    That I'm sure would be totaly believable to you
Title: Re: How late
Post by: tonymctones on November 05, 2012, 06:38:02 PM
this really is beyond your ability to understand

they can easily manipulate the wait times by simply having fewer voting machines in specific counties with the expectation that people won't choose to stand in line for 8 hours

I'm sure you'd be shocked to learn that a Republican politician would do such a thing but it would probably be easier for you to believe it if I told you a Dem was doing it to disinfrancise Repubs.    That I'm sure would be totaly believable to you
and Im sure you have proof of this?

Title: Re: How late
Post by: tonymctones on November 05, 2012, 06:39:06 PM
Only in the mind of a liberal does applying a law uniformly to everyone mean that a few a being singled out.

I guess thats how liberals are able to justify affirmative action...::)
Title: Re: How late
Post by: Straw Man on November 05, 2012, 06:39:35 PM
and Im sure you have proof of this?

see the aritcles I gave you links to or just look at the lines

Or actually, don't even bother

I know you're just pretending to not understand this and if you're not pretending then it's even more pointless
Title: Re: How late
Post by: Straw Man on November 05, 2012, 06:40:46 PM
Only in the mind of a liberal does applying a law uniformly to everyone mean that a few a being singled out.

I guess thats how liberals are able to justify affirmative action...::)

it has nothing to do with the law

you don't actually understand this do you ?
Title: Re: How late
Post by: tonymctones on November 05, 2012, 06:44:35 PM
see the aritcles I gave you links to or just look at the lines

Or actually, don't even bother

I know you're just pretending to not understand this and if you're not pretending then it's even more pointless
I read your links none said that the law targeted dem leaning districts like you say that it does.

I dont see any proof of your assertions at all.
Title: Re: How late
Post by: Straw Man on November 05, 2012, 06:48:39 PM
I read your links none said that the law targeted dem leaning districts like you say that it does.

I dont see any proof of your assertions at all.

Its got nothing to do with the law

You truly are baffled by that arent you?
Title: Re: How late
Post by: tonymctones on November 05, 2012, 06:53:41 PM
Its got nothing to do with the law

You truly are baffled by that arent you?
im baffled how you can morph a law that is being applied equally to all somehow singles out a group of ppl.

I guess you see what you want to see....
Title: Re: How late
Post by: Straw Man on November 05, 2012, 07:02:35 PM
im baffled how you can morph a law that is being applied equally to all somehow singles out a group of ppl.

I guess you see what you want to see....

If the speed limit in the state is 55 mph but one county only has 2 cops enforcing the law and another county of equal population has 20 enforcing the law would you still be baffled at claims the law was not being applied equally in those two counties?

I assume you must also be baffled by that question too.  Afterall the law applies to the entire state right?
Title: Re: How late
Post by: tonymctones on November 05, 2012, 07:04:25 PM
If the speed limit in the state is 55 mph but one county only has 2 cops enforcing the law and another county of equal population has 20 enforcing the law would you still be baffled at claims the law was not being applied equally in those two counties?

I assume you must also be baffled by that question too.  Afterall the law applies to the entire state right?
do you have proof that the are only policing a few counties?

or is this a gut "feeling" youre getting?

I havent seen any proof of this assertion, please cite your sources.
Title: Re: How late
Post by: Straw Man on November 05, 2012, 07:10:52 PM
do you have proof that the are only policing a few counties?

or is this a gut "feeling" youre getting?

I havent seen any proof of this assertion, please cite your sources.

Youre asking if i have proof of an example that i just made up to illustrate my point?
Title: Re: How late
Post by: tonymctones on November 05, 2012, 07:23:58 PM
Youre asking if i have proof of an example that i just made up to illustrate my point?
LOL WOW!!!

the example you made up is what is called an analogy, the analogy was in reference to the previous idiocy you were speaking about.

My asking was in reference to your previous idiocy, do you have proof the republicans are trying to thwart early voting in dem leaning districts?

As your articles point out all the districts are abiding by the same laws.
Title: Re: How late
Post by: Straw Man on November 05, 2012, 07:39:59 PM
LOL WOW!!!

the example you made up is what is called an analogy, the analogy was in reference to the previous idiocy you were speaking about.

My asking was in reference to your previous idiocy, do you have proof the republicans are trying to thwart early voting in dem leaning districts?

As your articles point out all the districts are abiding by the same laws



You asked if i had proof about "policing a few counties" i.e.  my example

Lets cut the crap

If what is being alleged in the articles i posted  is true are you OK with it?

Are you OK with Repubs trying to suppress the Democratic vote

Dont be ashamed of your answer.   Just be honest.
Title: Re: How late
Post by: garebear on November 05, 2012, 07:55:33 PM
Boohoo. We've had to show ID in CT for longer than I've been voting and it's still never taken more than 20 minutes to get in and out. Stop crying, you little bitch.


By the way, something like 78% of Americans support voter ID laws. Unlike you and your elitist, crony scum, the bulk of us don't like having our votes negated by the dead and illegal Mexicans.
Your disdain for democracy disgusts me, as it should every American.

Support voter ID laws if you like, but not wanting people to vote due to long lines, even if they are of another party, is just like screaming "I hate freedom".

Scumbag.

Title: Re: How late
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 05, 2012, 08:09:28 PM
Your disdain for democracy disgusts me, as it should every American.

Support voter ID laws if you like, but not wanting people to vote due to long lines, even if they are of another party, is just like screaming "I hate freedom".

Scumbag.



So says the pedo in china
Title: Re: How late
Post by: garebear on November 05, 2012, 08:11:04 PM
So says the pedo in china
Can't come up with any thing, huh?

Title: Re: How late
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 05, 2012, 09:12:38 PM
The legislation effected the entire state, did it not?

if its effecting dems its effecting reps

come on man... It doesn't take much to figure out this automatically effects dems more than republicans.  It's an easy in and out in republican areas which almost always have a lower population.  The clusterfuck long waits will mostly happen in high population areas which have more dems than republicans.  LOL you don't exactly need an official statement to see the point of this.
Title: Re: How late
Post by: tonymctones on November 06, 2012, 04:09:13 AM
come on man... It doesn't take much to figure out this automatically effects dems more than republicans.  It's an easy in and out in republican areas which almost always have a lower population.  The clusterfuck long waits will mostly happen in high population areas which have more dems than republicans.  LOL you don't exactly need an official statement to see the point of this.
this is a decent argument, the first brought up in this whole idiocy.

you have numbers to back up your assertion huggy?

here in houston alot of republicans live in the city where they would be effected by this as well.
Title: Re: How late
Post by: tonymctones on November 06, 2012, 04:10:27 AM
You asked if i had proof about "policing a few counties" i.e.  my example

Lets cut the crap

If what is being alleged in the articles i posted  is true are you OK with it?

Are you OK with Repubs trying to suppress the Democratic vote

Dont be ashamed of your answer.   Just be honest.
No I would not but then again you have no proof of anything just a bunch of assertions.

so why should i believe your feelings on this?
Title: Re: How late
Post by: dario73 on November 06, 2012, 05:03:20 AM
GOP senators: Thousands of ballots unlikely to reach military voters in time
By Ramsey Cox - 11/05/12 02:01 PM ET
   A group of Republican senators said Monday that thousands of voter ballots are unlikely to reach military service members until after Nov. 6.

One day ahead of the election, Sens. John Cornyn (R-Texas), Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.), John McCain (R-Ariz.), Rob Portman (R-Ohio) and Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) sent a letter to Defense Secretary Leon Panetta to express their concern over delays in ballots reaching military voters overseas.


“We write to express concerns over another serious failure by the Department of Defense (DoD) to safeguard the voting rights of our overseas military service members, which we believe could result in the imminent disenfranchisement of thousands,” the letter stated.

Mail redirection in the military can take between 14 to 50 days, meaning a ballot could reach the voter possibly more than a month after ballots have to be mailed back in order to be counted. The Military Postal Service Agency (MPSA) identified problems with the system after the 2010 election, but hasn’t implemented changes.

“DoD’s failure to fix this longstanding problem means that the blank ballots of thousands of overseas service members, as well as some who have recently returned from overseas, could be currently trapped in an archaic and inefficient mail forwarding system,” the senators wrote. “These ballots are unlikely to reach these service members until after Election Day has passed."

The senators advised Panetta to create a centralized mail redirection system and modernize military mail delivery.

“We are perplexed as to why DoD did not do everything in its power to modernize the system for redirecting blank ballots in order to eliminate this roadblock for military service members, per the top 2010 recommendations from MPSA,” the letter stated. “As we know you agree, they deserve to have a voice in choosing their elected leaders. Our men and women in uniform should be able to participate in the very same democratic system of government that they defend, not be relegated to mere spectator status because their ballot never reached them.”

The senators asked that a new mail system be in place by the next election, in 2014.

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/265925-gop-senators-thousands-of-ballots-unlikely-to-reach-military-voters
Title: Re: How late
Post by: loco on November 06, 2012, 05:52:17 AM
How late?  It might be January before you know the results.    ;D
Title: Re: How late
Post by: garebear on November 06, 2012, 06:03:37 AM
How late?  It might be January before you know the results.    ;D
I'm staying up until January.
Title: Re: How late
Post by: loco on November 06, 2012, 06:08:25 AM
I'm staying up until January.

 ;D
Title: Re: How late
Post by: tonymctones on November 06, 2012, 03:30:53 PM
3+ hours long line.  Rainy day.  One working voting machine in precinct. 

This is mccain/romney country!  Tonf of old people in line.  I'm not going to buy into any complaints from Broward/Miami about voter suppression... Cause if this isn't suppression, I dunno what is, and it's happening to everyone, everywhere.
Hey Look it looks like the law that was applied to all districts might be effecting all districts...


WHO WOULD HAVE FUCKING THOUGHT??????????????
Title: Re: How late
Post by: Straw Man on November 06, 2012, 03:36:16 PM
Hey Look it looks like the law that was applied to all districts might be effecting all districts...


WHO WOULD HAVE FUCKING THOUGHT??????????????

you mean the "law" about restricting early voting ?
Title: Re: How late
Post by: tonymctones on November 06, 2012, 03:44:26 PM
you mean the "law" about restricting early voting ?
the only law weve been talking about brainchild...
Title: Re: How late
Post by: Straw Man on November 06, 2012, 03:45:18 PM
the only law weve been talking about brainchild...

no shit brainchild

was 240 voting EARLY ?
Title: Re: How late
Post by: 24KT on November 06, 2012, 03:45:59 PM
How late?  It might be January before you know the results.    ;D

Oh poop! Congratulations loco, ...you just made my head explode.  ;D