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Title: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: anabolichalo on December 02, 2012, 01:20:54 PM
well developed but doesnt really impress

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5267/5625370492_b7821c1313.jpg)
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: Nomad on December 02, 2012, 01:25:56 PM
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Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: anabolichalo on December 02, 2012, 01:30:09 PM
guy in the back is dressed like shit
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: 240 is Back on December 02, 2012, 01:38:58 PM
oh nonsense that pic is clearly morphed.

actual dimensions of a Mr O
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: Marty Champions on December 02, 2012, 01:44:53 PM
i respected him as a basketball but not now
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on December 02, 2012, 01:47:00 PM
i respected him as a basketball but not now

what kind of ball is he now?
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: njflex on December 02, 2012, 02:00:56 PM
yeah nothing impressive with biceps that resemble grapefruits,,cannon ball delts,,triceps delt to elbow,,and big ass forearms too boot,,,
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: Knooger on December 02, 2012, 02:02:23 PM
what kind of ball is he now?

Looks like a dirty ping pong ball.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: cephissus on December 02, 2012, 02:07:18 PM
phil heath looks like is a small, ugly gay man blown up by drugs

as bodybuilding's champion, he is living proof that there is nothing about masculinity or power involved in the whole endeavor
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: Trapper_Slapper on December 02, 2012, 02:13:04 PM
well developed but doesnt really impress

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5267/5625370492_b7821c1313.jpg)
He usually doesn't become freakishly impressive until about 8-9 weeks out from contest. Come on guys, did we forget about the '12 Olympia already?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=440351.0;attach=483544;image)
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: Palpatine Q on December 02, 2012, 02:24:32 PM
Looks to me like the guy is smart enough to give the heavy gas a break for a while.

but yes, he's gay, he's broke, he's an asshole in real life, he has fake muscle, he's narrow, he'll be dead in 15 years..any i missed?
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: SF1900 on December 02, 2012, 02:26:10 PM
Looks to me like the guy is smart enough to give the heavy gas a break for a while.

but yes, he's gay, he's broke, he's an asshole in real life, he has fake muscle, he's narrow, he'll be dead in 15 years..any i missed?

Well, he is narrow compared to every other Mr. Olympia. You can't deny that.

Can't speak to the other things.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: The Scott on December 02, 2012, 02:31:37 PM
phil heath looks like is a small, ugly gay man blown up by drugs

as bodybuilding's champion, he is living proof that there is nothing about masculinity or power involved in the whole endeavor

Could not have been more clearly or correctly stated.  I agree.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: Krankenstein on December 02, 2012, 02:44:43 PM
well developed but doesnt really impress

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5267/5625370492_b7821c1313.jpg)

Is that you with the pony tail in the background?
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: WOOO on December 02, 2012, 03:36:49 PM
steroids make you more of what you already are... in phil's case he's looks like a staypuff kobe bryant.... but like a midget staypuff kobe
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: Slik on December 02, 2012, 04:02:06 PM
He usually doesn't become freakishly impressive until about 8-9 weeks out from contest. Come on guys, did we forget about the '12 Olympia already?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=440351.0;attach=483544;image)
does anyone know wut bicep machine that is? Looks kind of like the old flex bisolator but the stack is on the side not the back.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: Slik on December 02, 2012, 04:05:58 PM
Ok. It appears to be the life fitness bicep curl.  Has anyone used this?  How might it compare with the bisolator which was a kick ass machine
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: Viking11 on December 02, 2012, 06:45:20 PM
what kind of ball is he now?
LMAO.  For several minutes.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: che on December 02, 2012, 06:54:07 PM
does anyone know wut bicep machine that is?
A cheap knock off version of Basile's biceps-supinator machine.


(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=394408.0;attach=428409;image)
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: abijahmaniaco on December 02, 2012, 06:54:58 PM
no one can like they do on stage year around—especially in candid photos. come on now. ::)
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: tbombz on December 02, 2012, 08:11:29 PM
phil looks insanely jacked in that photo. you haters are fucking hilarious. hes poor, hes gay, hes not masculine, hes all drugs, hes small, lmao. yup.   ;D   ;D    ;D   keep on hating guys... phil is the best bodybuilder on the planet, makes over a million year from the olympia and his endorsements and guest posings, and by the looks of every video and picture ive ever seen of him he is extremeley comfortable with himself and his sexuality.  not maculine, LOL. dude is chill as fuck all the damn time. thats pretty much as masculine as masculine gets.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: WOOO on December 02, 2012, 08:12:39 PM
phil looks insanely jacked in that photo. you haters are fucking hilarious. hes poor, hes gay, hes not masculine, hes all drugs, hes small, lmao. yup.   ;D   ;D    ;D   keep on hating guys... phil is the best bodybuilder on the planet, makes over a million year from the olympia and his endorsements and guest posings, and by the looks of every video and picture ive ever seen of him he is extremeley comfortable with himself and his sexuality.  not maculine, LOL. dude is chill as fuck all the damn time. thats pretty much as masculine as masculine gets.


tbomz

you are a funny looking queer

no one cares

what your anus thinks
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: SF1900 on December 02, 2012, 09:16:08 PM
phil looks insanely jacked in that photo. you haters are fucking hilarious. hes poor, hes gay, hes not masculine, hes all drugs, hes small, lmao. yup.   ;D   ;D    ;D   keep on hating guys... phil is the best bodybuilder on the planet, makes over a million year from the olympia and his endorsements and guest posings, and by the looks of every video and picture ive ever seen of him he is extremeley comfortable with himself and his sexuality.  not maculine, LOL. dude is chill as fuck all the damn time. thats pretty much as masculine as masculine gets.

tdongz, youre pathetic. sticking up for phil like you know him. get a life.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: The Scott on December 02, 2012, 09:50:38 PM
phil looks insanely jacked in that photo. you haters are fucking hilarious. hes poor, hes gay, hes not masculine, hes all drugs, hes small, lmao. yup.   ;D   ;D    ;D   keep on hating guys... phil is the best bodybuilder on the planet, makes over a million year from the olympia and his endorsements and guest posings, and by the looks of every video and picture ive ever seen of him he is extremeley comfortable with himself and his sexuality.  not maculine, LOL. dude is chill as fuck all the damn time. thats pretty much as masculine as masculine gets.

Enough with giving Phil the VRA (Virtual Reach Around), it does nothing but confirm your status as a mouth breather and all around bum pumpee.   

"Chill as fuck", how faux hip can you get?    Just how "chill" is that anyhow?  Phil is a dwarf on drugs. 
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: cephissus on December 02, 2012, 09:59:33 PM
not maculine, LOL. dude is chill as fuck all the damn time. thats pretty much as masculine as masculine gets.

you can define masculinity however you want.  doesn't change the fact phil is an ugly little man who got jacked via "bodybuilding," otherwise known as "the last hope for delusional little runts everywhere," otherwise known as "an activity for closet homosexuals."

and this coming rant isn't directly aimed at tbombz, but:

the fact that phil is ugly, very gay looking, and effeminate in his behavior is really what subconsciously irks bodybuilding fans.  his muscles are great, anyone still giving him shit on that level is of course delusional, but it's time to face the facts: there is, ultimately, no "bodybuilding for its own sake."  As much as many of us would like to pretend, there is no separating the big, round muscles and shrink wrapped skin from the rest of the human being.  if the (supposedly) great body is attached to a mediocre human being, it's revolting, just like expensive clothes and makeup on a fat, ugly girl.

when you look at phil,  you don't think "man i wanna be that guy."  you're reminded of the 240 lb weirdo grunting to himself in the power rack every night from 8-10pm who probably works a "shitty manual job," as uberman would say, and slams tuna every two hours like clockwork before finally collapsing into a deep, dreamless sleep.  

You look at him and you know, everyone who calls themselves a bodybuilder wants a big, strong body that, in their mind, matches their big, strong soul.  They want the rest of the world to think them just as special as they think themselves to be.  They have serious mental deficiencies.  They have few real skills or good attributes, but strong narcissistic tendencies and no way to forge any sort of identity except by playing the great body = great person illusion (or, since they believe it themselves, delusion).

bodybuilding is seen as a way to create the perfect body... well, bodies have no purpose in and of themselves.  they only have a purpose as one part of a whole human being.  pro bodybuilding is incompatible with this fact, and reduces everything but the muscles to naught, while still expecting to be impressed (this is why they talk of work ethic so much)!

are we really supposed to believe phil heath is "mr. olympia"?  what does that mean?  olympia was the home of the gods.  phil heath looks like the kind of guy i would expect to find working as a postman.  it's hard enough to suspend our knowledge and believe, even just for a moment, that ronnie or dorian was someone to look up to, but PHIL HEATH? LOL!
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: Natural Man on December 02, 2012, 10:41:18 PM
Ok. It appears to be the life fitness bicep curl.  Has anyone used this?  How might it compare with the bisolator which was a kick ass machine
who gives a fuck lift a fucking dumbell and that's it. As if you were going to purchase one and put it in your living room.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: Raymondo on January 05, 2013, 06:32:43 PM
you can define masculinity however you want.  doesn't change the fact phil is an ugly little man who got jacked via "bodybuilding," otherwise known as "the last hope for delusional little runts everywhere," otherwise known as "an activity for closet homosexuals."

and this coming rant isn't directly aimed at tbombz, but:

the fact that phil is ugly, very gay looking, and effeminate in his behavior is really what subconsciously irks bodybuilding fans.  his muscles are great, anyone still giving him shit on that level is of course delusional, but it's time to face the facts: there is, ultimately, no "bodybuilding for its own sake."  As much as many of us would like to pretend, there is no separating the big, round muscles and shrink wrapped skin from the rest of the human being.  if the (supposedly) great body is attached to a mediocre human being, it's revolting, just like expensive clothes and makeup on a fat, ugly girl.

when you look at phil,  you don't think "man i wanna be that guy."  you're reminded of the 240 lb weirdo grunting to himself in the power rack every night from 8-10pm who probably works a "shitty manual job," as uberman would say, and slams tuna every two hours like clockwork before finally collapsing into a deep, dreamless sleep.  

You look at him and you know, everyone who calls themselves a bodybuilder wants a big, strong body that, in their mind, matches their big, strong soul.  They want the rest of the world to think them just as special as they think themselves to be.  They have serious mental deficiencies.  They have few real skills or good attributes, but strong narcissistic tendencies and no way to forge any sort of identity except by playing the great body = great person illusion (or, since they believe it themselves, delusion).

bodybuilding is seen as a way to create the perfect body... well, bodies have no purpose in and of themselves.  they only have a purpose as one part of a whole human being.  pro bodybuilding is incompatible with this fact, and reduces everything but the muscles to naught, while still expecting to be impressed (this is why they talk of work ethic so much)!

are we really supposed to believe phil heath is "mr. olympia"?  what does that mean?  olympia was the home of the gods.  phil heath looks like the kind of guy i would expect to find working as a postman.  it's hard enough to suspend our knowledge and believe, even just for a moment, that ronnie or dorian was someone to look up to, but PHIL HEATH? LOL!

Brilliant post.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: MCWAY on January 05, 2013, 06:44:26 PM
Well, he is narrow compared to every other Mr. Olympia. You can't deny that.



Hardly!! Can you say Zane and Dickerson?
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: SF1900 on January 05, 2013, 06:47:38 PM
Hardly!! Can you say Zane and Dickerson?

He is probably not that much wider than them, and he is narrow compared to more current mr olympias
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: MCWAY on January 05, 2013, 06:58:47 PM
you can define masculinity however you want.  doesn't change the fact phil is an ugly little man who got jacked via "bodybuilding," otherwise known as "the last hope for delusional little runts everywhere," otherwise known as "an activity for closet homosexuals."

and this coming rant isn't directly aimed at tbombz, but:

the fact that phil is ugly, very gay looking, and effeminate in his behavior is really what subconsciously irks bodybuilding fans.  his muscles are great, anyone still giving him shit on that level is of course delusional, but it's time to face the facts: there is, ultimately, no "bodybuilding for its own sake."  As much as many of us would like to pretend, there is no separating the big, round muscles and shrink wrapped skin from the rest of the human being.  if the (supposedly) great body is attached to a mediocre human being, it's revolting, just like expensive clothes and makeup on a fat, ugly girl.

when you look at phil,  you don't think "man i wanna be that guy."  you're reminded of the 240 lb weirdo grunting to himself in the power rack every night from 8-10pm who probably works a "shitty manual job," as uberman would say, and slams tuna every two hours like clockwork before finally collapsing into a deep, dreamless sleep.  

You look at him and you know, everyone who calls themselves a bodybuilder wants a big, strong body that, in their mind, matches their big, strong soul.  They want the rest of the world to think them just as special as they think themselves to be.  They have serious mental deficiencies.  They have few real skills or good attributes, but strong narcissistic tendencies and no way to forge any sort of identity except by playing the great body = great person illusion (or, since they believe it themselves, delusion).

bodybuilding is seen as a way to create the perfect body... well, bodies have no purpose in and of themselves.  they only have a purpose as one part of a whole human being.  pro bodybuilding is incompatible with this fact, and reduces everything but the muscles to naught, while still expecting to be impressed (this is why they talk of work ethic so much)!

are we really supposed to believe phil heath is "mr. olympia"?  what does that mean?  olympia was the home of the gods.  phil heath looks like the kind of guy i would expect to find working as a postman.  it's hard enough to suspend our knowledge and believe, even just for a moment, that ronnie or dorian was someone to look up to, but PHIL HEATH? LOL!

Yep! The average guy, delivering the mail, looks like Heath.  ::) How utterly silly is that?

Heath competes in the 240s, now....the same range Ronnie was when he won his first Olympia.

As for delusional "runts", average height is 5'8". Heath is listed at 5'9". Heck, the only Mr. O that was over 6 feet tall was Arnold. That includes Ronnie (who'd have to grow his high-top fade back to reach 6 feet).

So many folks who didn't like Heath, for whatever reason, were just HOPING he'd fail to win the Olympia, like Flex Wheeler. Now, he's won it twice.

BTW, how many people were just screaming to be like Dorian Yates, particularly in his later years with a torn-bicep, a gut that nearly protruded in the judges' lap and arguably worst case of "back-ne", seen in bodybuilding history.

All Heath did is turn pro on his first try, win his first two pro shows (beating top Olympia contenders in the process), have his lowest placing in ANY contest being 5th (and that was when he was off, at the Olympia and ASC), and win the Olympia twice.

He really sucks!!  ::) 
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: Howard on January 05, 2013, 07:01:38 PM
i respected him as a basketball but not now
LOL, 2 time Mr O = real failure  ::)

Maybe he can hope to get the Falcon's respect if he goes full time g4p? hmmmmm ;)
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: quadzilla456 on January 05, 2013, 07:06:27 PM
A cheap knock off version of Basile's biceps-supinator machine.


(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=394408.0;attach=428409;image)
Say what you will but Basile has better calves than some Olympia competitors.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: Howard on January 05, 2013, 07:16:25 PM
Say what you will but Basile has better calves than some Olympia competitors.

Basille is over 60  and still alive. That's better then most modern bodybuilders will do haha.
Granted he is a senile old fuk, but he is still going strong down under  ;D
Love ya Vince!
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: OTHstrong on January 05, 2013, 07:19:46 PM
Sorry boys but have to side with the ones defending Heath here. See Heath may not look impressive in clothe but when his shirt comes of in shredded condition, his look is fucken mind boggling, pure cartoonish, muscle coming right off the bone ballooned into enormous proportion on a tiny skeletal structure, doesn`t even look biological, very hard to describe unless you have seen him in person with his shirt off in that conditioning, trust me makes 300 pounder look small with this type of look.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: The Scott on January 05, 2013, 07:29:37 PM
Sorry boys but have to side with the ones defending Heath here. See Heath may not look impressive in clothe but when his shirt comes of in shredded condition, his look is fucken mind boggling, pure cartoonish, muscle coming right off the bone ballooned into enormous proportion on a tiny skeletal structure, doesn`t even look biological, very hard to describe unless you have seen him in person with his shirt off in that conditioning, trust me makes 300 pounder look small with this type of look.

I think that what the majority of people have a "problem" with is that Heath is nothing without the drugs.  Nothing. Zip.  Zilch.  Zero.  Nada.  He is a living lie. A testimony to the test tube. 

I agree with them.  Just wait until acromegaly really takes hold of him from all that growth hormone.  His nose will look like Texas with ears that would make an elephant jealous.  Anyone can get huge and strong on that junk.  Anyone.  Don't believe me?  Look at the so-called "women" bodybuilders.   

People have every right to belittle Heath's physique and his "accomplishments" in the "sport" of bodybuilding.  The same holds true for Coleman, Cutler, Yates, et al. 
Cartoonish sucks.  It is ridiculous and unhealthy.  Mind boggling?  Only to a child that either does not yet know or refuses to accept the truth of the lie.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: C-BuZz on January 05, 2013, 07:37:42 PM
Your all wrong. This is how PH really looks.
(http://s8.postimage.org/4llnc0t4l/011_original.jpg)

From natty (well looks natty in 2002) 180LB above, to 240LB shredded placing 3rd in his first MR O in 5 fking years !!!!!!!!
(http://s9.postimage.org/kh3846s6n/phil_heath_mr_olympia01.png)
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: SF1900 on January 05, 2013, 07:45:25 PM
Your all wrong. This is how PH really looks.
(http://s8.postimage.org/4llnc0t4l/011_original.jpg)

From natty (well looks natty in 2002) 180LB above, to 240LB shredded placing 3rd in his first MR O in 5 fking years !!!!!!!!
(http://s9.postimage.org/kh3846s6n/phil_heath_mr_olympia01.png)

Yes, drugs are an amazing thing. Proof is right there.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: OTHstrong on January 05, 2013, 07:47:51 PM
I think that what the majority of people have a "problem" with is that Heath is nothing without the drugs.  Nothing. Zip.  Zilch.  Zero.  Nada.  He is a living lie. A testimony to the test tube. 

I agree with them.  Just wait until acromegaly really takes hold of him from all that growth hormone.  His nose will look like Texas with ears that would make an elephant jealous.  Anyone can get huge and strong on that junk.  Anyone.  Don't believe me?  Look at the so-called "women" bodybuilders.   

People have every right to belittle Heath's physique and his "accomplishments" in the "sport" of bodybuilding.  The same holds true for Coleman, Cutler, Yates, et al. 
Cartoonish sucks.  It is ridiculous and unhealthy.  Mind boggling?  Only to a child that either does not yet know or refuses to accept the truth of the lie.
oh so you driving a car is lie, the  natural way is to walk, don`t take tylenol when you have a cold, seriously your argument is real childish. He has a goal that only 1 in 7billion can achieve and the only way is to leave all rocks unturned and some of those rocks happen to be chemicals, no different then medicine or any synthetic substance. The amount of discomfort and hardship that is involved is no less the any other endeavour. It sucks being in calorie deficit to achieve low bodyfat level, it suck constantly being hungry, it sucks having to endure discomfort of such magnitude nevermind the discomfort the chemical give you from anxiety caused by caffeine and ephedrine.

What the fuck gives you the right to tell people what their desires should be, go tell a rock climber not to climb cause people die every year mountain climbing, go tell the skier not to ski cause people die skying, fuck way more carnage in those 2 then bodybuilding. Look it is this simple you don`t like bodybuilding then do not follow it, but millions world wide love it and every competitive bodybuilder would do exactly what Heath did to have an Olympia trophy, you don`t approve of his methods change the channel`and stop whining over a mountain climber that can potentially fall cause he picked a passion he loves..
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: The Scott on January 05, 2013, 07:55:52 PM
oh so you driving a car is lie, the  natural way is to walk, don`t take tylenol when you have a cold, seriously your argument is real childish. He has a goal that only 1 in 7billion can achieve and the only way is to leave all rocks unturned and some of those rocks happen to be chemicals, no different then medicine or any synthetic substance. The amount of discomfort and hardship that is involved is no less the any other endeavour. It sucks being in calorie deficit to achieve low bodyfat level, it suck constantly being hungry, it sucks having to endure discomfort of such magnitude nevermind the discomfort the chemical give you from anxiety caused by caffeine and ephedrine.

What the fuck gives you the right to tell people what their desires should be, go tell a rock climber not to climb cause people die every year mountain climbing, go tell the skier not to ski cause people die skying, fuck way more carnage in those 2 then bodybuilding. Look it is this simple you don`t like bodybuilding then do not follow it, but millions world wide love it and every competitive bodybuilder would do exactly what Heath did to have an Olympia trophy, you don`t approve of his methods change the channel`and stop whining over a mountain climber that can potentially fall cause he picked a passion he loves..


Did the truth really hurt you that  much?  Apparently so.  Get over the fact that not everyone here and in the real world thinks the world of Phil Heath or for that matter, others just like him. 

What a sacrifice Heath makes to achieve his physique.  Oh the pain and misery he endures from each needle prick.  And the pills!  My God!  The pills!  Maybe he should be called "Pill" Heath?

Don't like the truth because it rattles your world in a scary way?  Too bad.  Phil Heath is a pussy without his drugs.  With them he is an even bigger pussy.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on January 05, 2013, 08:08:28 PM
i respected him as a basketball but not now

Like you knew who he was back when he was a bench warmer on one of the worst D1 basketball teams in the country
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on January 05, 2013, 08:11:16 PM
Looks to me like the guy is smart enough to give the heavy gas a break for a while.

but yes, he's gay, he's broke, he's an asshole in real life, he has fake muscle, he's narrow, he'll be dead in 15 years..any i missed?

I agree. I think he comes off or switches to a TRT or low test dose with a decent amount of HGH until Olympia time these days. Staying healthy before going crazy for contest prep
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: MCWAY on January 05, 2013, 08:12:00 PM

Did the truth really hurt you that  much?  Apparently so.  Get over the fact that not everyone here and in the real world thinks the world of Phil Heath or for that matter, others just like him. 

What a sacrifice Heath makes to achieve his physique.  Oh the pain and misery he endures from each needle prick.  And the pills!  My God!  The pills!  Maybe he should be called "Pill" Heath?

Don't like the truth because it rattles your world in a scary way?  Too bad.  Phil Heath is a pussy without his drugs.  With them he is an even bigger pussy.

This isn't about thinking the world of Heath. This is about belittling the guy, simply because he (like all the other bodybuilders that Heath's detractors like) use anabolics.

If all it took was roids to be Mr. Olympia, Dan Duchaine would have had Sandow after Sandow on his mantle.

Here's a bright idea. If you don't like bodybuilding, try posting somewhere other than a BODYBUILDING SITE. Or, at the very least, hit the natural bodybuilding section of the forum.

Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: The Scott on January 05, 2013, 08:19:51 PM
This isn't about thinking the world of Heath. This is about belittling the guy, simply because he (like all the other bodybuilders that Heath's detractors like) use anabolics.

If all it took was roids to be Mr. Olympia, Dan Duchaine would have had Sandow after Sandow on his mantle.

Here's a bright idea. If you don't like bodybuilding, try posting somewhere other than a BODYBUILDING SITE. Or, at the very least, hit the natural bodybuilding section of the forum.



Here is a clue -  I like bodybuilding.  I enjoy lifting weights.  I like the way it makes me look and feel, e.g., healthier and stronger.  What I don't like is the drug culture that permeates what passes for bodybuilding today.   All it takes is roids to win the Olympia.  Do not agree?  Take away the juice and none of the Olympia winners would have won.  And that is the truth of it.  We can go around and around with this but the truth of the matter is I am correct.  It does not mean that Heath is not a "nice guy" and in that respect I have no idea and to be honest could care less. 

Dan Duchaine.  If I recall correctly he liked to ride recumbent bicycles around San Diego's beaches.  He's dead now for many years.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: OTHstrong on January 05, 2013, 08:22:30 PM

Did the truth really hurt you that  much?  Apparently so.  Get over the fact that not everyone here and in the real world thinks the world of Phil Heath or for that matter, others just like him. 

What a sacrifice Heath makes to achieve his physique.  Oh the pain and misery he endures from each needle prick.  And the pills!  My God!  The pills!  Maybe he should be called "Pill" Heath?

Don't like the truth because it rattles your world in a scary way?  Too bad.  Phil Heath is a pussy without his drugs.  With them he is an even bigger pussy.
Hey no skin off my back bro, you are the jack ass that hangs out on the biggest bodybuilding site on the planet yet write this type of rubbish, jealous cause you have a fucken horrible physique? or jealous cause you are a wannabe who couldn`t hack it due to bad genetics, come let`s see the pics cause everyone who talks like you do is fat or a skinny little bitch with 14 inch guns and that is a fact. Get the fuck off the site if you have intolerable hatred for bodybuilding.

Oh the irony, do you forget what this site is called ---- getbig, what the fuck do you think that means? what gets you bigger then hormone brainiac. See I have no problem with people having a bad opinion of bodybuilders but just don`t hang out in their neck of the woods like a fucken whiny little bitch, that is all.

Let`s go to a mountain climbing forum and discuss how stupid it is to mountain climb and how dangerous it is Einstein.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: MCWAY on January 05, 2013, 08:30:15 PM
Here is a clue -  I like bodybuilding.  I enjoy lifting weights.  I like the way it makes me look and feel, e.g., healthier and stronger.  What I don't like is the drug culture that permeates what passes for bodybuilding today.   All it takes is roids to win the Olympia.  Do not agree?  Take away the juice and none of the Olympia winners would have won.  And that is the truth of it.  We can go around and around with this but the truth of the matter is I am correct.  It does not mean that Heath is not a "nice guy" and in that respect I have no idea and to be honest could care less. 

Absolutely NOT, when it comes to "all it takes is roids". Without roids, somebody would have won the Olympia. Would it have been the same guys who ended up winning them? Maybe. Maybe not.

My point about Duchaine was that he used almost every steroid known to man (at the time). Yet, his physique hardly resembled that of a NPC state champion, let alone an Olympia competitor.


Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: The Scott on January 05, 2013, 08:31:05 PM
Hey no skin off my back bro, you are the jack ass that hangs out on the biggest bodybuilding site on the planet yet write this type of rubbish, jealous cause you have a fucken horrible physique? or jealous cause you are a wannabe who couldn`t hack it due to bad genetics, come let`s see the pics cause everyone who talks like you do is fat or a skinny little bitch with 14 inch guns and that is a fact. Get the fuck off the site if you have intolerable hatred for bodybuilding.

Oh the irony, do you forget what this site is called ---- getbig, what the fuck do you think that means? what gets you bigger then hormone brainiac. See I have no problem with people having a bad opinion of bodybuilders but just don`t hang out in their neck of the woods like a fucken whiny little bitch, that is all.

Let`s go to a mountain climbing forum and discuss how stupid it is to mountain climb and how dangerous it is Einstein.

Actually, you have no idea who you are speaking with just as I have no real clue who you are in the real world.  I can tell that you are influenced by your base desires because you resort to childish and emotional displays of insufferable whining (as quoted above).   What it is, really, is this.  You wish to justify taking drugs for your physique by saying that it is more than just drugs.  But it isn't.

I am certain that in reality you are a good person.  That in reality you are more than what you present here.  You just want more than what nature dealt you and are willing to do whatever you can justify to achieve your goals. 
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: OTHstrong on January 05, 2013, 08:58:59 PM
Actually, you have no idea who you are speaking with just as I have no real clue who you are in the real world.  I can tell that you are influenced by your base desires because you resort to childish and emotional displays of insufferable whining (as quoted above).   What it is, really, is this.  You wish to justify taking drugs for your physique by saying that it is more than just drugs.  But it isn't.

I am certain that in reality you are a good person.  That in reality you are more than what you present here.  You just want more than what nature dealt you and are willing to do whatever you can justify to achieve your goals. 
stop trying to act like Deepok Choppra bro, you need to get out of here and go to a mens health website or forum. I don`t care who I am talking too, you mean nothing to me, you have some serious issues.

I was 23 years old when I first did steroids and I was already lifting weights for 10 years and I could bench 350lb but when I was young I decided that I wanted to get big and strong, a shredded physique with 20 inch arms and a 500 lb bench and that is what I decided I wanted long before I knew you had to juice to get there, so when I maxed out naturally my goals were not accomplished so I jumped on juice or my goals would not have been met, plain and simple so save your moral Bullshit for the school children, this a forum for full grown men who make their own decisions there are 100`s of websites for natural lifters like you, go preach over there and stop creating drama over here over your personal agenda.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: AVBG on January 05, 2013, 09:18:03 PM
what kind of ball is he now?

Went from Spaulding to Wilson
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: The Scott on January 05, 2013, 09:20:41 PM
stop trying to act like Deepok Choppra bro, you need to get out of here and go to a mens health website or forum. I don`t care who I am talking too, you mean nothing to me, you have some serious issues.

I was 23 years old when I first did steroids and I was already lifting weights for 10 years and I could bench 350lb but when I was young I decided that I wanted to get big and strong, a shredded physique with 20 inch arms and a 500 lb bench and that is what I decided I wanted long before I knew you had to juice to get there, so when I maxed out naturally my goals were not accomplished so I jumped on juice or my goals would not have been met, plain and simple so save your moral Bullshit for the school children, this a forum for full grown men who make their own decisions there are 100`s of websites for natural lifters like you, go preach over there and stop creating drama over here over your personal agenda.

I am impressed. 
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: Howard on January 05, 2013, 09:29:59 PM

Did the truth really hurt you that  much?  Apparently so.  Get over the fact that not everyone here and in the real world thinks the world of Phil Heath or for that matter, others just like him. 

What a sacrifice Heath makes to achieve his physique.  Oh the pain and misery he endures from each needle prick.  And the pills!  My God!  The pills!  Maybe he should be called "Pill" Heath?

Don't like the truth because it rattles your world in a scary way?  Too bad.  Phil Heath is a pussy without his drugs.  With them he is an even bigger pussy.

Boxers,MMA fighters and NFL players all take serious health risks in their sport.
Phil Heath may respond well to drugs but it is his round muscle shape that makes him Mr Olympia.
I'm not thrilled with the extreme drug use in modern pro bodybuilding.
But that's reality and like him or not Phil Hill is a huge success and the top bodybuilder in the world for 2 yrs now.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on January 05, 2013, 09:32:54 PM
professor roofenstein strikes again...  yes, every individual on the planet, man, woman, child, vegetable is working to be Mr. O... but there can be only one.

oh so you driving a car is lie, the  natural way is to walk, don`t take tylenol when you have a cold, seriously your argument is real childish. He has a goal that only 1 in 7billion can achieve and the only way is to leave all rocks unturned and some of those rocks happen to be chemicals, no different then medicine or any synthetic substance. The amount of discomfort and hardship that is involved is no less the any other endeavour. It sucks being in calorie deficit to achieve low bodyfat level, it suck constantly being hungry, it sucks having to endure discomfort of such magnitude nevermind the discomfort the chemical give you from anxiety caused by caffeine and ephedrine.

What the fuck gives you the right to tell people what their desires should be, go tell a rock climber not to climb cause people die every year mountain climbing, go tell the skier not to ski cause people die skying, fuck way more carnage in those 2 then bodybuilding. Look it is this simple you don`t like bodybuilding then do not follow it, but millions world wide love it and every competitive bodybuilder would do exactly what Heath did to have an Olympia trophy, you don`t approve of his methods change the channel`and stop whining over a mountain climber that can potentially fall cause he picked a passion he loves..
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 05, 2013, 09:34:16 PM
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6107/6269066817_aac4733e0f.jpg)
(http://www.africanmuscle.com/Touri/000.jpg)

This guy DESTROYS Phill, yet most people dont even know his name. it just shows you Mr.Olympia/ifbb today is a bunch of trash.

its how a bodybuilder should look, hard, rugged, vascular and strong looking. not like a balloon like most "pros" are now adays. ifbb guys need to head over to Middle east/eastern europe and learn a few things.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: Howard on January 05, 2013, 09:35:10 PM
professor roofenstein strikes again...  yes, every individual on the planet, man, woman, child, vegetable is working to be Mr. O... but there can be only one.


Same with the highlander.
Oh congrats on that big hit  and Bowl win JC
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: OTHstrong on January 05, 2013, 09:52:06 PM
professor roofenstein strikes again...  yes, every individual on the planet, man, woman, child, vegetable is working to be Mr. O... but there can be only one.

No you dumbass but if they did there still would only be one Mr. O.So take steroids and become Mr. O right? to say drugs got him there is retarded cause why didn`t drugs get any other ifbb pro there or anyone of the millions that are taking juice? Because like everything else in life there is a workload involved, so here is the real story; Everyone at the top does the same workload, everyone at the top has the same drug protocol, there is one difference and that is called ``genetics`shape, structure, and genetic tolerance``

You guys really need to post on fitness forums or some where where there is less juice if you hate it so much. There are tons of naturals here that do not care about people taking juice, it does not bother them at all.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: Kwon_2 on January 05, 2013, 09:59:02 PM
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6107/6269066817_aac4733e0f.jpg)
(http://www.africanmuscle.com/Touri/000.jpg)

This guy DESTROYS Phill, yet most people dont even know his name. it just shows you Mr.Olympia/ifbb today is a bunch of trash.

its how a bodybuilder should look, hard, rugged, vascular and strong looking. not like a balloon like most "pros" are now adays. ifbb guys need to head over to Middle east/eastern europe and learn a few things.

He even has Arnolds teeth
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: OTHstrong on January 05, 2013, 10:03:39 PM
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6107/6269066817_aac4733e0f.jpg)
(http://www.africanmuscle.com/Touri/000.jpg)

This guy DESTROYS Phill, yet most people dont even know his name. it just shows you Mr.Olympia/ifbb today is a bunch of trash.

its how a bodybuilder should look, hard, rugged, vascular and strong looking. not like a balloon like most "pros" are now adays. ifbb guys need to head over to Middle east/eastern europe and learn a few things.
This guy is one of the most impressive bodybuilders on the planet in picture but when he stands in a line up he looks like he would not be top 5 at tier 3 pro show. He would be in 3rd call out at the Olympia, not in Phil league bro.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: MCWAY on January 05, 2013, 10:07:08 PM
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6107/6269066817_aac4733e0f.jpg)
(http://www.africanmuscle.com/Touri/000.jpg)

This guy DESTROYS Phill, yet most people dont even know his name. it just shows you Mr.Olympia/ifbb today is a bunch of trash.

its how a bodybuilder should look, hard, rugged, vascular and strong looking. not like a balloon like most "pros" are now adays. ifbb guys need to head over to Middle east/eastern europe and learn a few things.

Ummmm, NO! He doesn't destroy Phil. Standing by yourself doesn't prove JACK. Let him step onstage against the Heath and the others, if he can. Then, we'll see what's what.

Heath has only beaten the likes of:

- Jay Cutler (4-time Mr. O)
- Dexter Jackson (2008 Mr. O)
- Dennis James (multiple pro show winner)
- Branch Warren (2-time ASC winner)
- Toney Freeman (multiple pro show winner)
- Darrem Charles (multiple pro show winner)
- Kai Greene (2-time ASC winner)
- Victor Martinez (2007 ASC Champion)

Just to name a few.

Heath won the USA, on his first try, to turn pro. Who is this guy and against whom has he competed? Could he even beat the NPC's best, let alone the IFBB's best?

Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: SF1900 on January 05, 2013, 10:19:19 PM
Ummmm, NO! He doesn't destroy Phil. Standing by yourself doesn't prove JACK. Let him step onstage against the Heath and the others, if he can. Then, we'll see what's what.

Heath has only beaten the likes of:

- Jay Cutler (4-time Mr. O)
- Dexter Jackson (2008 Mr. O)
- Dennis James (multiple pro show winner)
- Branch Warren (2-time ASC winner)
- Toney Freeman (multiple pro show winner)
- Darrem Charles (multiple pro show winner)
- Kai Greene (2-time ASC winner)
- Victor Martinez (2007 ASC Champion)

Just to name a few.

Heath won the USA, on his first try, to turn pro. Who is this guy and against whom has he competed? Could he even beat the NPC's best, let alone the IFBB's best?



You take bodybuilding way too seriously  :-\ :-\
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on January 05, 2013, 10:27:01 PM
No you dumbass but if they did there still would only be one Mr. O.So take steroids and become Mr. O right? to say drugs got him there is retarded cause why didn`t drugs get any other ifbb pro there or anyone of the millions that are taking juice? Because like everything else in life there is a workload involved, so here is the real story; Everyone at the top does the same workload, everyone at the top has the same drug protocol, there is one difference and that is called ``genetics`shape, structure, and genetic tolerance``

You guys really need to post on fitness forums or some where where there is less juice if you hate it so much. There are tons of naturals here that do not care about people taking juice, it does not bother them at all.

professor, how did you determine there are millions that are taking juice?
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 05, 2013, 10:27:44 PM
Ummmm, NO! He doesn't destroy Phil. Standing by yourself doesn't prove JACK. Let him step onstage against the Heath and the others, if he can. Then, we'll see what's what.

Heath has only beaten the likes of:

- Jay Cutler (4-time Mr. O)
- Dexter Jackson (2008 Mr. O)
- Dennis James (multiple pro show winner)
- Branch Warren (2-time ASC winner)
- Toney Freeman (multiple pro show winner)
- Darrem Charles (multiple pro show winner)
- Kai Greene (2-time ASC winner)
- Victor Martinez (2007 ASC Champion)

Just to name a few.

Heath won the USA, on his first try, to turn pro. Who is this guy and against whom has he competed? Could he even beat the NPC's best, let alone the IFBB's best?



lol, are you Heaths secret account or somthing? calm down, take a breath.

 ;)
(http://img4.imagetitan.com/img4/small/2/2_mohammedtouri.jpg)
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: SF1900 on January 05, 2013, 10:33:37 PM
lol, are you Heaths secret account or somthing? calm down, take a breath.

 ;)
(http://img4.imagetitan.com/img4/small/2/2_mohammedtouri.jpg)


haha lol. I know! He is getting all crazy over Heath just because someone said the other guy was a better bodybuilder lol.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: OTHstrong on January 05, 2013, 10:42:48 PM
professor, how did you determine there are millions that are taking juice?
Oh great, here comes the little fleece.

Wow, math is not your strong point is it. There are literally 100`s of ways of figuring this out but obviously not for dumb shits like you. Well the governing body of all major bodybuilding organizations world wide total up to more then 50 000 competitors in non drug tested shows, actually the number was like 67 000 or around there but let`s low ball it and say 50 000. In North America alone there are 10 000 competitive male bodybuilders. So my gym has 100`s of juice heads and yet only 3 or 4 guys compete and let`s not mention all the people on HRT.

Fuck, in fact every HIV patient is on juice and do you how many people have HIV world wide? over 150 million people so if even 10 % of them are taking HRT that is 15 million people alone. I am educated, you are just a clown and annoying but I will still answer for the sake of the people reading this not because I enjoy owning your ass.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: OTHstrong on January 05, 2013, 10:46:46 PM
lol, are you Heaths secret account or somthing? calm down, take a breath.

 ;)
(http://img4.imagetitan.com/img4/small/2/2_mohammedtouri.jpg)
Bro don`t scoop that low bro, you issued a statement and he responded to it and now you are throwing a cheap shot at him, not cool bro, don`t get caught up into the ignorance of getbig, you are better then this, I mean I expected this from SF1900 (sorry SF just saying it how it is, I still love you) but not from you. Peace  :)
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 05, 2013, 10:54:56 PM
Bro don`t scoop that low bro, you issued a statement and he responded to it and now you are throwing a cheap shot at him, not cool bro, don`t get caught up into the ignorance of getbig, you are better then this, I mean I expected this from SF1900 (sorry SF just saying it how it is, I still love you) but not from you. Peace  :)

bro, 1:52 am and insomnia is kicking in. im just messing around on Getbig getting a few laughs.  ;)
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: SF1900 on January 05, 2013, 10:56:16 PM
Bro don`t scoop that low bro, you issued a statement and he responded to it and now you are throwing a cheap shot at him, not cool bro, don`t get caught up into the ignorance of getbig, you are better then this, I mean I expected this from SF1900 (sorry SF just saying it how it is, I still love you) but not from you. Peace  :)

haha lol! :D :D

Well, ya know, I try to keep people stable. I understand that people take their men in thongs very serious  ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on January 05, 2013, 10:56:34 PM
Oh great, here comes the little fleece.

Wow, math is not your strong point is it. There are literally 100`s of ways of figuring this out but obviously not for dumb shits like you. Well the governing body of all major bodybuilding organizations world wide total up to more then 50 000 competitors in non drug tested shows, actually the number was like 67 000 or around there but let`s low ball it and say 50 000. In North America alone there are 10 000 competitive male bodybuilders. So my gym has 100`s of juice heads and yet only 3 or 4 guys compete and let`s not mention all the people on HRT.

Fuck, in fact every HIV patient is on juice and do you how many people have HIV world wide? over 150 million people so if even 10 % of them are taking HRT that is 15 million people alone. I am educated, you are just a clown and annoying but I will still answer for the sake of the people reading this not because I enjoy owning your ass.

ah, my bad... I forgot that all HIV patients receiving HRT are doing so to look like Heath.  i do find it curious that your gym drug tests its members though.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: flinstones1 on January 05, 2013, 11:24:21 PM
you can define masculinity however you want.  doesn't change the fact phil is an ugly little man who got jacked via "bodybuilding," otherwise known as "the last hope for delusional little runts everywhere," otherwise known as "an activity for closet homosexuals."

and this coming rant isn't directly aimed at tbombz, but:

the fact that phil is ugly, very gay looking, and effeminate in his behavior is really what subconsciously irks bodybuilding fans.  his muscles are great, anyone still giving him shit on that level is of course delusional, but it's time to face the facts: there is, ultimately, no "bodybuilding for its own sake."  As much as many of us would like to pretend, there is no separating the big, round muscles and shrink wrapped skin from the rest of the human being.  if the (supposedly) great body is attached to a mediocre human being, it's revolting, just like expensive clothes and makeup on a fat, ugly girl.

when you look at phil,  you don't think "man i wanna be that guy."  you're reminded of the 240 lb weirdo grunting to himself in the power rack every night from 8-10pm who probably works a "shitty manual job," as uberman would say, and slams tuna every two hours like clockwork before finally collapsing into a deep, dreamless sleep.  

You look at him and you know, everyone who calls themselves a bodybuilder wants a big, strong body that, in their mind, matches their big, strong soul.  They want the rest of the world to think them just as special as they think themselves to be.  They have serious mental deficiencies.  They have few real skills or good attributes, but strong narcissistic tendencies and no way to forge any sort of identity except by playing the great body = great person illusion (or, since they believe it themselves, delusion).

bodybuilding is seen as a way to create the perfect body... well, bodies have no purpose in and of themselves.  they only have a purpose as one part of a whole human being.  pro bodybuilding is incompatible with this fact, and reduces everything but the muscles to naught, while still expecting to be impressed (this is why they talk of work ethic so much)!

are we really supposed to believe phil heath is "mr. olympia"?  what does that mean?  olympia was the home of the gods.  phil heath looks like the kind of guy i would expect to find working as a postman.  it's hard enough to suspend our knowledge and believe, even just for a moment, that ronnie or dorian was someone to look up to, but PHIL HEATH? LOL!

sounds like some  brotha  stole your girl. Are you ok?   Phil heath ugly :D  lol...guy will fuck your mom and make your dad watch.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 05, 2013, 11:28:09 PM
sounds like some  brotha  stole your girl. Are you ok?   Phil heath ugly :D  lol...guy will fuck your mom and make your dad watch.

woah! flint dropping a nuke :o
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: Trapper_Slapper on January 06, 2013, 01:12:33 AM
sounds like some  brotha  stole your girl. Are you ok?   Phil heath ugly :D  lol...guy will fuck your mom and make your dad watch.
Lol! Oh shit! ;D
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: dj181 on January 06, 2013, 01:18:52 AM
guy in the back is dressed like shit


just needs some kicks like this, then he'll be styling
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: hp31 on January 06, 2013, 02:44:06 AM
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6107/6269066817_aac4733e0f.jpg)
(http://www.africanmuscle.com/Touri/000.jpg)

This guy DESTROYS Phill, yet most people dont even know his name. it just shows you Mr.Olympia/ifbb today is a bunch of trash.

its how a bodybuilder should look, hard, rugged, vascular and strong looking. not like a balloon like most "pros" are now adays. ifbb guys need to head over to Middle east/eastern europe and learn a few things.

LOL, no he doesn't...

(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/BOB_9576wtmk.JPG)
(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/BOB_9577wtmk.JPG)
(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/BOB_9586wtmk.JPG)
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: Parker on January 06, 2013, 03:27:16 AM
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6107/6269066817_aac4733e0f.jpg)
(http://www.africanmuscle.com/Touri/000.jpg)

This guy DESTROYS Phill, yet most people dont even know his name. it just shows you Mr.Olympia/ifbb today is a bunch of trash.

its how a bodybuilder should look, hard, rugged, vascular and strong looking. not like a balloon like most "pros" are now adays. ifbb guys need to head over to Middle east/eastern europe and learn a few things.
2006 Phil Heath would destroy this dude.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: _bruce_ on January 06, 2013, 04:39:36 AM
A cheap knock off version of Basile's biceps-supinator machine.


(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=394408.0;attach=428409;image)

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: deceiver on January 06, 2013, 04:44:16 AM
you can define masculinity however you want.  doesn't change the fact phil is an ugly little man who got jacked via "bodybuilding," otherwise known as "the last hope for delusional little runts everywhere," otherwise known as "an activity for closet homosexuals."

and this coming rant isn't directly aimed at tbombz, but:

the fact that phil is ugly, very gay looking, and effeminate in his behavior is really what subconsciously irks bodybuilding fans.  his muscles are great, anyone still giving him shit on that level is of course delusional, but it's time to face the facts: there is, ultimately, no "bodybuilding for its own sake."  As much as many of us would like to pretend, there is no separating the big, round muscles and shrink wrapped skin from the rest of the human being.  if the (supposedly) great body is attached to a mediocre human being, it's revolting, just like expensive clothes and makeup on a fat, ugly girl.

when you look at phil,  you don't think "man i wanna be that guy."  you're reminded of the 240 lb weirdo grunting to himself in the power rack every night from 8-10pm who probably works a "shitty manual job," as uberman would say, and slams tuna every two hours like clockwork before finally collapsing into a deep, dreamless sleep.  

You look at him and you know, everyone who calls themselves a bodybuilder wants a big, strong body that, in their mind, matches their big, strong soul.  They want the rest of the world to think them just as special as they think themselves to be.  They have serious mental deficiencies.  They have few real skills or good attributes, but strong narcissistic tendencies and no way to forge any sort of identity except by playing the great body = great person illusion (or, since they believe it themselves, delusion).

bodybuilding is seen as a way to create the perfect body... well, bodies have no purpose in and of themselves.  they only have a purpose as one part of a whole human being.  pro bodybuilding is incompatible with this fact, and reduces everything but the muscles to naught, while still expecting to be impressed (this is why they talk of work ethic so much)!

are we really supposed to believe phil heath is "mr. olympia"?  what does that mean?  olympia was the home of the gods.  phil heath looks like the kind of guy i would expect to find working as a postman.  it's hard enough to suspend our knowledge and believe, even just for a moment, that ronnie or dorian was someone to look up to, but PHIL HEATH? LOL!

You can pretend like you "do not care" all you want but you just wrote wall of text with 6 paragraphs about one guy. And still, honestly, I do not get what is it about Phil Heath that drives you mad.

Mr Olympia is nothing more than choosing best guy according to current definition of what is "best". They are NOT judging personality, face or whatever, at least they're not supposed to in theory. When they do that creates Branch Warrens who look like absolute shit and yet place high in contests.

Phil Heath was best looking guy on stage according to judges and vast majority of bodybuilding community. It was so apparent to me that I have no idea who in right mind can dispute this. I am not Phil Heath's fan, in fact, I agree that prime Coleman, Dorian, Levrone and many others would crush him. But they are not competing anymore and Phil Heath turns out to be the best nowadays.

I think you are making bodybuilding to be more than what it really is. Phil Heath has a huge fanbase and I do not really think that he is concerned about your or anyone's opinion. At the end of the day, he is succesful. He is the best in something he does and earned a lot of money because of that.

To me, your babbling about "big strong soul" is bullshit intended to make you feel better about yourself. You haven't achieved anything measurable in your life, am I right?
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: cephissus on January 06, 2013, 04:57:15 AM
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6107/6269066817_aac4733e0f.jpg)
(http://www.africanmuscle.com/Touri/000.jpg)

This guy DESTROYS Phill, yet most people dont even know his name. it just shows you Mr.Olympia/ifbb today is a bunch of trash.

its how a bodybuilder should look, hard, rugged, vascular and strong looking. not like a balloon like most "pros" are now adays. ifbb guys need to head over to Middle east/eastern europe and learn a few things.

haha of course "truebb93" picks some muslim to "destroy phil heath"
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: cephissus on January 06, 2013, 04:59:50 AM
You can pretend like you "do not care" all you want but you just wrote wall of text with 6 paragraphs about one guy. And still, honestly, I do not get what is it about Phil Heath that drives you mad.

Mr Olympia is nothing more than choosing best guy according to current definition of what is "best". They are NOT judging personality, face or whatever, at least they're not supposed to in theory. When they do that creates Branch Warrens who look like absolute shit and yet place high in contests.

Phil Heath was best looking guy on stage according to judges and vast majority of bodybuilding community. It was so apparent to me that I have no idea who in right mind can dispute this. I am not Phil Heath's fan, in fact, I agree that prime Coleman, Dorian, Levrone and many others would crush him. But they are not competing anymore and Phil Heath turns out to be the best nowadays.

I think you are making bodybuilding to be more than what it really is. Phil Heath has a huge fanbase and I do not really think that he is concerned about your or anyone's opinion. At the end of the day, he is succesful. He is the best in something he does and earned a lot of money because of that.

To me, your babbling about "big strong soul" is bullshit intended to make you feel better about yourself. You haven't achieved anything measurable in your life, am I right?

not sure what any of this has to do with what i wrote
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on January 06, 2013, 05:09:08 AM
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6107/6269066817_aac4733e0f.jpg)
(http://www.africanmuscle.com/Touri/000.jpg)

This guy DESTROYS Phill, yet most people dont even know his name. it just shows you Mr.Olympia/ifbb today is a bunch of trash.

its how a bodybuilder should look, hard, rugged, vascular and strong looking. not like a balloon like most "pros" are now adays. ifbb guys need to head over to Middle east/eastern europe and learn a few things.

Hahahahahaha cute story , this guy must be the ' best ' from your neck of the woods but you post an offseason pic and type nonsense , try harder.

Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: lightweight83 on January 06, 2013, 05:53:55 AM
Unreal pic of Heath in the last post. 

How does he go from looking like a freaking monster on stage to looking like a puffy amateur the rest of the year? 
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: Parker on January 06, 2013, 06:06:50 AM
Unreal pic of Heath in the last post. 

How does he go from looking like a freaking monster on stage to looking like a puffy amateur the rest of the year? 
i think the issue is this. Levrone used to go from "skinny" (relatively) to Fulblown in a few months.
Phil for most of his pro career spends the offseason in "bloofy" smooth shape, and "grows" into contest shape.
Now that he's Mr. O, people expect Mr. O to be freaky 365 days a yr, a la Ronnie Coleman, and Dorian Yates, and even Jay Cutler to a certain degree.

Phil accomplishes his results differently, and people are not used to that.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 06, 2013, 09:17:04 AM
haha of course "truebb93" picks some muslim to "destroy phil heath"


 ::) i guess you didnt read the part where I said, Middle eastern AND EASTERN EUROPEAN bodybuilders are better then most of IFBB huh?
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: anabolichalo on January 06, 2013, 09:22:02 AM
it's odd how they can progress yearly if they deflate most of the year only to inflate for the big day
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: SF1900 on January 06, 2013, 09:29:59 AM
Unreal pic of Heath in the last post. 

How does he go from looking like a freaking monster on stage to looking like a puffy amateur the rest of the year? 

Drugs  ??? ???
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: anabolichalo on January 06, 2013, 09:43:17 AM
Drugs  ??? ???
more drugs each time they re-inflate?  ???
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: SF1900 on January 06, 2013, 09:48:32 AM
more drugs each time they re-inflate?  ???

Well, I meant drugs = looking that horrible in off season to looking insane onseason.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: slate on January 06, 2013, 09:50:06 AM
Brilliant post.

x2
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: NotSure on January 06, 2013, 10:40:07 AM
well developed but doesnt really impress

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5267/5625370492_b7821c1313.jpg)
Why does the guy in the background have a raging boner?
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: Wiggs on January 06, 2013, 10:42:28 AM
Why does the guy in the background have a raging boner?

Cause it's a fanny pack.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: cephissus on January 06, 2013, 05:08:30 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/2Dh0O.jpg)
(http://www.lib-art.com/imgpainting/2/3/5932-hercules-and-diomedes-vincenzo-de-rossi.jpg)
(http://i1.trekearth.com/photos/33525/img_0348.jpg)
(http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/16126454.jpg)
(http://www.visualphotos.com/photo/2x4767485/.jpg)
(http://www.molon.de/galleries/Italy/Rome/Trevi/images01/03%20Statue%20of%20the%20god%20Neptune.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_EiPf8jQJEKU/SwIGVI0p7sI/AAAAAAAAGKk/xNJFljsTZiE/s1600/Rome+Trip+131.JPG)

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5267/5625370492_b7821c1313.jpg)

just another day on mt. olympus...
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: Parker on January 06, 2013, 05:11:03 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/2Dh0O.jpg)
(http://www.lib-art.com/imgpainting/2/3/5932-hercules-and-diomedes-vincenzo-de-rossi.jpg)
(http://i1.trekearth.com/photos/33525/img_0348.jpg)
(http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/16126454.jpg)
(http://www.visualphotos.com/photo/2x4767485/.jpg)
(http://www.molon.de/galleries/Italy/Rome/Trevi/images01/03%20Statue%20of%20the%20god%20Neptune.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_EiPf8jQJEKU/SwIGVI0p7sI/AAAAAAAAGKk/xNJFljsTZiE/s1600/Rome+Trip+131.JPG)

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5267/5625370492_b7821c1313.jpg)

just another day on mt. olympus...
"Upside down, you turning me...inside out"
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: WOOO on January 06, 2013, 05:12:27 PM
more drugs each time they re-inflate?  ???

maybe but i bet that if they give themselves time off they respond better...

i don't know anything about PEDs though... just guessing
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: arce1988 on January 06, 2013, 05:13:28 PM
  Great statues
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: cephissus on January 06, 2013, 05:17:18 PM
 Great statues

(http://i1.trekearth.com/photos/33525/img_0348.jpg)

wonder how much the greeks knew about:

1gm protein/lb bw
essential exercises: squat, dead, military press, bench press
nutrient timing
range of motion
glycemic index
carb cycling
stoking the metabolic fire
rest days
overtraining
post workout shakes
rep ranges
time under tension
energy systems

::)

:D
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: arce1988 on January 06, 2013, 05:19:26 PM
  Great point.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: MCWAY on January 06, 2013, 06:03:36 PM

 ::) i guess you didnt read the part where I said, Middle eastern AND EASTERN EUROPEAN bodybuilders are better then most of IFBB huh?

Then explain why so many Middle Eastern bodybuilders forfeit their pro cards, after competing in the IFBB.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: NotSure on January 06, 2013, 06:09:22 PM
Cause it's a fanny pack.
Sorry... Forgot you were the "resident expert" at determining real peni from false.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: OTHstrong on January 06, 2013, 06:25:41 PM
Then explain why so many Middle Eastern bodybuilders forfeit their pro cards, after competing in the IFBB.
They can`t hang in the pro ranks, they get lost in the line ups and fall into the tied for 16 category.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: BILL ANVIL on January 06, 2013, 07:10:58 PM
that is anything but brute solid muscle.
not very muscular for a Mr. fucking Olympia either
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: MCWAY on January 06, 2013, 09:30:00 PM
They can`t hang in the pro ranks, they get lost in the line ups and fall into the tied for 16 category.

That, and by renouncing their pro cards, they can compete at the World Amateur Championships (formerly known as the IFBB Mr. Universe), where they get treated almost like rock stars by their home countries, if they win their weight classes.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 06, 2013, 09:38:18 PM
That, and by renouncing their pro cards, they can compete at the World Amateur Championships (formerly known as the IFBB Mr. Universe), where they get treated almost like rock stars by their home countries, if they win their weight classes.

not so much that they would "get lost in the lineup" as onetime claims, but rather what MCWAY said. these guys get paid a good amount of $$$, become famous in theit contries and i've heard there Goverments pay for ALL of their stuff.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: axestream on January 07, 2013, 12:25:40 AM
Then explain why so many Middle Eastern bodybuilders forfeit their pro cards, after competing in the IFBB.

You can only do well as a pro bodybuilder if you're popular in the US. That will get you signed by big sponsors. Without one you can not have a pro career and I'm not just talking about big sponsor contracts paying for expenses like food and drugs.

Arabs are not very marketable in the US.

The end.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: tu_holmes on January 07, 2013, 12:37:02 AM
You can only do well as a pro bodybuilder if you're popular in the US. That will get you signed by big sponsors. Without one you can not have a pro career and I'm not just talking about big sponsor contracts paying for expenses like food and drugs.

Arabs are not very marketable in the US.

The end.

There's a whole lot of planet Earth outside of the US though... You'd think they would be marketable in some of it.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: axestream on January 07, 2013, 12:40:45 AM
Looks to me like the guy is smart enough to give the heavy gas a break for a while.

but yes, he's gay, he's broke, he's an asshole in real life, he has fake muscle, he's narrow, he'll be dead in 15 years..any i missed?

Yes, he was so scared at the 2012 Olympia he had to cheat.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: OTHstrong on January 07, 2013, 02:21:34 AM
not so much that they would "get lost in the lineup" as onetime claims, but rather what MCWAY said. these guys get paid a good amount of $$$, become famous in theit contries and i've heard there Goverments pay for ALL of their stuff.
Just to put things in perspective for you, Sami (an amazing bodybuilder) smashed all Arabs and Eastern Europeans and won many,many overalls, easily the best of the best from where you stated and he is not the best in the 212 division, and the 212 would not hold a candle in an open line up in the IFBB. Dave Henry was not even top ten when he won the Olympia 202 class, neither was Kevin English, in fact a 212 competitor could never win an ifbb open show. You see what I mean, trust me 99% of these guys you are mentioning would be tied for 16th place, very few, if any would break through to a pose down at a tier 3 show.

I know you like their look but this is not opinions here this is bodybuilding qualified judging, these are the facts
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: whitewidow on January 07, 2013, 02:34:20 AM
did phil really admit to being gay?
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: OTHstrong on January 07, 2013, 02:39:20 AM
did phil really admit to being gay?
no OF COURSE NOT.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: whitewidow on January 07, 2013, 02:40:39 AM
He usually doesn't become freakishly impressive until about 8-9 weeks out from contest. Come on guys, did we forget about the '12 Olympia already?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=440351.0;attach=483544;image)

I remember the 2012 Olympia. Kai Greene got robbed! Phil got another gift!
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: axestream on January 07, 2013, 02:50:11 AM
I remember the 2012 Olympia. Kai Greene got robbed! Phil got another gift!

Kai let Phil get away with cheating. I hope Kai learned his lesson and will call Phil out this year if his bitch ass is inching his way onto the judges table.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 07, 2013, 03:20:22 AM
did phil really admit to being gay a big fan of Louis Vuitton purses?

yes
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: Parker on January 07, 2013, 03:51:58 AM
guy looks great, but whether he destroys phil can only be said when they stand next to eachother.

pics with shirt on can hide small but decisive structural flaws , like unfortunate hips etc.


i dont think phil looks like a baloon on contest day, hes one of the guys with plenty striations.he comes with striated glutes and triceps.

wouldnt call that baloon. 8)
One of his structural flaws is that he has an odd wide waisted, and arms that seem stumpy in some poses.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on January 07, 2013, 05:10:15 AM
Heath comes off or off everything except high HGH before going all in contest prep. He's smart
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: deceiver on January 07, 2013, 05:51:22 AM
Heath comes off or off everything except high HGH before going all in contest prep. He's smart

There's nothing "smart" about that, it's obvious concept and everyone knows its best approach but they just can't do that. Reason why they can't is simple - they are insecure, they can't stand the very thought of loosing their size. Some of them as well have to do something like "off season" because they have lagging bodyparts which they need to bring up and it won't happen over the course of like 20 week long contest prep.

Phil Heath has neither. He, almost like Levrone, doesn't give a fuck about looking "huge" all year round. Frankly, he doesn't have to be huge to look impressive, it's not his main weapon. He would look just as impressive at 190lbs, trust me.

Galeniko is 100% correct here, I'm astonished by the amount of idiots who can't grasp simple concept that if Phil Heath is "all drugs" then why does he win contests? Because his opponents are shit? Well, you can't blame him for that, can you?
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: njflex on January 07, 2013, 07:21:37 AM
There's nothing "smart" about that, it's obvious concept and everyone knows its best approach but they just can't do that. Reason why they can't is simple - they are insecure, they can't stand the very thought of loosing their size. Some of them as well have to do something like "off season" because they have lagging bodyparts which they need to bring up and it won't happen over the course of like 20 week long contest prep.

Phil Heath has neither. He, almost like Levrone, doesn't give a fuck about looking "huge" all year round. Frankly, he doesn't have to be huge to look impressive, it's not his main weapon. He would look just as impressive at 190lbs, trust me.

Galeniko is 100% correct here, I'm astonished by the amount of idiots who can't grasp simple concept that if Phil Heath is "all drugs" then why does he win contests? Because his opponents are shit? Well, you can't blame him for that, can you?
GOOD POST DECIEVER,,,,
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: OTHstrong on January 07, 2013, 07:47:32 AM
One of his structural flaws is that he has an odd wide waisted, and arms that seem stumpy in some poses.
BINGO, absolutely horrible physique, just plain ugly reminds me of a miniature Art Atwood, this guy could never set foot on the Olympia, NEVER. Stumpy arms, medium to high lat insertions, no ab or any type of detail below bellybutton, very poor leg insertions, wide waist from the front, no lower back, and ZERO detail in his shoulder in the BDB pose. Also his right lat and right thigh are slightly bigger then left, so crappy symetry to boot.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on January 07, 2013, 07:50:04 AM
There's nothing "smart" about that, it's obvious concept and everyone knows its best approach but they just can't do that. Reason why they can't is simple - they are insecure, they can't stand the very thought of loosing their size. Some of them as well have to do something like "off season" because they have lagging bodyparts which they need to bring up and it won't happen over the course of like 20 week long contest prep.

Phil Heath has neither. He, almost like Levrone, doesn't give a fuck about looking "huge" all year round. Frankly, he doesn't have to be huge to look impressive, it's not his main weapon. He would look just as impressive at 190lbs, trust me.

Galeniko is 100% correct here, I'm astonished by the amount of idiots who can't grasp simple concept that if Phil Heath is "all drugs" then why does he win contests? Because his opponents are shit? Well, you can't blame him for that, can you?

Smart, secure...whatever adjective you want to use. Phil does stay big but he puts on a ton of water. You can see how much he holds. He doesn't really shrink though. That's why I think he just uses a lot of HGH to go along with no AAS or a small dose of test
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: the trainer on January 07, 2013, 08:00:57 AM
Actually, you have no idea who you are speaking with just as I have no real clue who you are in the real world.  I can tell that you are influenced by your base desires because you resort to childish and emotional displays of insufferable whining (as quoted above).   What it is, really, is this.  You wish to justify taking drugs for your physique by saying that it is more than just drugs.  But it isn't.

I am certain that in reality you are a good person.  That in reality you are more than what you present here.  You just want more than what nature dealt you and are willing to do whatever you can justify to achieve your goals. 

dumb fuck you want more also that his why you are lifting weights because you want your muscle to be bigger, you are so retarded you dont even see that.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 07, 2013, 08:03:07 AM
i respected him as a basketball but not now

He was a basketball?
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: njflex on January 07, 2013, 08:07:55 AM
He was a basketball?
LOL...
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: OTHstrong on January 07, 2013, 08:30:22 AM
dumb fuck you want more also that his why you are lifting weights because you want your muscle to be bigger, you are so retarded you dont even see that.
BINGO, The same reason I juice is the same reason naturals lift weights. Exactly the same reason, they want bigger muscles and I want bigger muscles.

 However I can`t get bigger muscle by going to the gym alone cause I already have 20 inch arm and I already have 30 inch thighs and I already have  500 lb bench so now what? just quit, stop, go backwards.... what do I do now  ``the scott`` enlighten me please.

Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: flinstones1 on January 07, 2013, 12:17:08 PM
There's nothing "smart" about that, it's obvious concept and everyone knows its best approach but they just can't do that. Reason why they can't is simple - they are insecure, they can't stand the very thought of loosing their size. Some of them as well have to do something like "off season" because they have lagging bodyparts which they need to bring up and it won't happen over the course of like 20 week long contest prep.

Phil Heath has neither. He, almost like Levrone, doesn't give a fuck about looking "huge" all year round. Frankly, he doesn't have to be huge to look impressive, it's not his main weapon. He would look just as impressive at 190lbs, trust me.

Galeniko is 100% correct here, I'm astonished by the amount of idiots who can't grasp simple concept that if Phil Heath is "all drugs" then why does he win contests? Because his opponents are shit? Well, you can't blame him for that, can you?

well kevin didnt start pulling that shit till he was later in his career.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: njflex on January 07, 2013, 12:41:27 PM
well kevin didnt start pulling that shit till he was later in his career.
TRUE KEV WAS ABOUT 260 PLUS GUESTPOSING 92 UP TILL LATE 90'S THEN SCALED BACK OFFSEASON.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: flinstones1 on January 07, 2013, 01:37:01 PM
TRUE KEV WAS ABOUT 260 PLUS GUESTPOSING 92 UP TILL LATE 90'S THEN SCALED BACK OFFSEASON.

any truth that he got up to 280 one time for guest posing? dude was lean apparently....heard this more than once. I think people forget how big levrone really was when he wanted to be.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: njflex on January 07, 2013, 01:44:43 PM
any truth that he got up to 280 one time for guest posing? dude was lean apparently....heard this more than once. I think people forget how big levrone really was when he wanted to be.
COULD BE SAW HIM GUEST POST 260 IN 92 WITH YATES ,,,KEV WAS A BALL OF THICK MASS SMOOTH BUT THICK ASS LEGS RUBBING TOGETHER BIG,,,
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 07, 2013, 02:43:12 PM
Just to put things in perspective for you, Sami (an amazing bodybuilder) smashed all Arabs and Eastern Europeans and won many,many overalls, easily the best of the best from where you stated and he is not the best in the 212 division, and the 212 would not hold a candle in an open line up in the IFBB. Dave Henry was not even top ten when he won the Olympia 202 class, neither was Kevin English, in fact a 212 competitor could never win an ifbb open show. You see what I mean, trust me 99% of these guys you are mentioning would be tied for 16th place, very few, if any would break through to a pose down at a tier 3 show.

I know you like their look but this is not opinions here this is bodybuilding qualified judging, these are the facts

alright bro,you win.  8)

i wish Ifbb could go back to 90s physiques. IFBB 90s(levrone,flex,ray) were the BEST of the BEST.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: TrueBB93 on January 07, 2013, 02:52:45 PM
I remember the 2012 Olympia. Kai Greene got robbed! Phil got another gift!

Widow speaks the truth.

I wondering if Kai called 911 after the olympia, to report a robbery.
Title: Re: this is what phil heath really looks like
Post by: OTHstrong on January 08, 2013, 06:34:56 AM
alright bro,you win.  8)

i wish Ifbb could go back to 90s physiques. IFBB 90s(levrone,flex,ray) were the BEST of the BEST.
but i do agree with you that these guys do come in razor sharp conditioning  ;)