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The cover of Tuesday's New York Post — which shows a man moments before he was fatally struck by a subway train —is sparking outrage from readers.
Han, a 58 year old father from Queens, was pushed into the subway tracks by "a deranged man" on Monday afternoon. One witness said that he was caught between the platform and the train, and dragged. The front page of the Post showed Han trying to lift himself back onto the platform at the 49th Street station as a Q train approached.
On Tuesday, readers asked why the photographer didn't try to help Han instead. The picture was taken by R. Umar Abbasi, whom the Post described as a "freelance photographer." The paper and Abbasi said that he was running toward the train and "repeatedly firing off his flash to warn the operator."
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Alexander Abad-Santos at the Atlantic Wire noted, "Getting a conductor's attention with a flash — and maybe even blinding him with it — doesn't seem like the way you'd necessarily help someone that's clinging to the subway platform."
Others on Twitter harshly criticized both Abbasi for taking the photo and the Post for running it. People called the paper "despicable" and the "trashiest of f-cking trash." "Real classy, NY Post. Real classy," one person wrote. Below, see some of the reactions on Twitter.
Capital New York reached out to four tabloid photographers for their takes, and they were not as quick to blame Abbasi. "Honestly, I can't fault this photographer," one photographer wrote, citing the other observers on the subway platform. "They're either all guilty of turning their back on [Han], or they're not. Can't lay blame on this guy alone."
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The culprit.
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/12/05/article-2242963-165B077A000005DC-291_634x384.jpg)
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the photographer believed by repeatedly flashing his camera, he could alert the subway driver.
I dunno... at the very least, he should have been trying to yank that dude out until the last possible second. The line about using his camera to alert the driver sounds weak.
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Nice to know your fellow countrymen are never afraid to help you out if something bad happens ::)
Disgusting culture there.
You rather take that 10k for a pic than save a man, a father.
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Nice to know your fellow countrymen are never afraid to help you out if something bad happens ::)
Disgusting culture there.
You rather take that 10k for a pic than save a man, a father.
I had the same initial reaction. Unfortunately for this man there were no getbiggers riding the subway that day. A getbigger could have lifted him off the track with one hand. If need be, stopping the on coming trained with a single well placed punch.
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Killed by a negro.
Photographed dying by an Arab.
Welcome to America.
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Killed by a negro.
Photographed dying by an Arab.
Welcome to America.
lol
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Everyone knows that firing your flash is the universal signal for man stuck on the tracks ::)
looks to me like he took the time to set up a good shot and got the train and the man in the frame, what a disgusting piece of garbage. ethnic background of both participants ?
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I don't get people's first reaction today is to pick up their phone and take a photo before reacting to help. Fucking lame society.
Facebook generation nothings
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Damn 58 yrs old and unable to do a single pull up to save his life
But that is a tasteless photo and caption to sell 50cent papers
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The culprit.
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/12/05/article-2242963-165B077A000005DC-291_634x384.jpg)
male pattern baldness, or do you think he took the time for a fresh cut that morning before the crime?
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Damn 58 yrs old and unable to do a single pull up to save his life
But that is a tasteless photo and caption to sell 50cent papers
he was probably panicking, and that fall probably hurt pretty good. looks like he didn't have much time to do anything.
but the fucking towelhead had time to set up the shot. i'm sure he fired his flash repeatedly, he picked that picture out of 15 that he took
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The paper is fucked, ya the photographer is a goof too, but if I was a family member of the guy that died I would be pissed at the choice of words they put on the cover, wtf, this guy is about to die--- doomed, wow ignorant bastards.
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The paper is fucked, ya the photographer is a goof too, but if I was a family member of the guy that died I would be pissed at the choice of words they put on the cover, wtf, this guy is about to die--- doomed, wow ignorant bastards.
but it's NY, the greatest city in the world ::)
I love how the NY PR machine tries to paint this city in a positive light, but in the end you see what fuckers they really are.
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but it's NY, the greatest city in the world ::)
I love how the NY PR machine tries to paint this city in a positive light, but in the end you see what fuckers they really are.
Hatillo Puerto Rico is the greatest city in the world..
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I probably wouldn't have helped him either..depending. chances are you can't pull a 200+ man by his collar up five feet, and he'd probably wind up pulling you down too. You have a panicking man grabbing onto you for dear life as you are leaning over, one slip and you are dead too.
It also depends on how much time you had, if there was 20 0r 30 seconds I'd give it a shot, bit if the train was bearing down on him, he's dead...nobody can do anything
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the photographer believed by repeatedly flashing his camera, he could alert the subway driver.
I tend to think it was less about that than it was about trying to boost his own career.
Hopefully he won't have a career after this.
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Very low brow to publish this. Cheapens death which in turn cheapens life. I wish herpes on all involved
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Nice to know your fellow countrymen are never afraid to help you out if something bad happens ::)
Disgusting culture there.
You rather take that 10k for a pic than save a man, a father.
han was probably asian and the photographer a paki or indian.
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Survival of the fattest.
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The photographer believed by repeatedly flashing his camera, he would get a good picture
I wonder if Al Sharpton will march on Washington in the wake of this horrible racial crime
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Look at how perfectly framed the shot is. PERFECTLY FRAMED. That shot was COMPOSED before being snapped.
Had he been trying to FLASH the driver, the front of the train would have been in the middle of the frame.
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cameras should be able to tell if achmed the photographer had the time to help him or not, if he just stood there taking tons of shots not doing shit for like 1 minute before "han" got crushed.
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The photographer believed by repeatedly flashing his camera, he would get a good picture
I wonder if Al Sharpton will march on Washington in the wake of this horrible racial crime
Probably not but if he did it would be on behalf of the man who did the pushing. Sharpton will justify his actions by saying he is defending a mentally ill person from being railroaded by the system.
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Killed by a negro.
Photographed dying by an Arab.
Welcome to America.
you're right.
the train driver is also black ;D
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you're right.
the train driver is also black ;D
Are the insinuating the train operator sped up?
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Are the insinuating the train operator sped up?
no comment
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no comment
Got ya ;)
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that shit looks like something Peter Parker would sell to John Jonah Jameson, Jr to send to the Daily Bugle press
(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101015020542/marveldatabase/images/c/c9/John_Jonah_Jameson_%28Earth-6799%29.jpg)
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you're right.
the train driver is also black ;D
QUITE OBVIOUSLY a Neagal conspiracy to kil the man.
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QUITE OBVIOUSLY a Neagal conspiracy to kil the man.
:o
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I probably wouldn't have helped him either..depending. chances are you can't pull a 200+ man by his collar up five feet, and he'd probably wind up pulling you down too. You have a panicking man grabbing onto you for dear life as you are leaning over, one slip and you are dead too.
It also depends on how much time you had, if there was 20 0r 30 seconds I'd give it a shot, bit if the train was bearing down on him, he's dead...nobody can do anything
I have to be honest, same thought occurred to me. We can't all be Mark Wahlberg.
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the photographer believed by repeatedly flashing his camera, he could alert the subway driver.
I dunno... at the very least, he should have been trying to yank that dude out until the last possible second. The line about using his camera to alert the driver sounds weak.
I'm not going to defend the photographer, but there was probably nothing he could go.
The pusher pushed him at the train signal, so you've got 5 - 15 seconds from there, the train was going at 35-40 mph till it's a few feet out from the start of the platform, someone might be able to figure the rate of deceleration, the car is about 70 feet long, 85000 pounds.
Almost everyone was 25 -30 feet down the platform, the guy had scared everyone but Han down that far. So you'd have to see the push, let it register in your mind, wait for Han to recover from the drop, etc.....
Lastly, and this is the scariest one, you could get pulled into the train path by the person in trouble. Think about it, most folks in trouble pull people toward them when being rescued, etc....
Photographer is a douche for offering the photo, but I don't think he could've done anything much.
Also, one interest thing I learned is that there is actually a light signal that might make the motor man stop if he sees it, not a flash, but a side to side light beam movement like nodding "No". That is the one sometimes used by track workers in emergency.
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You sexual studs have me rolling in my office chair, laughing my ass off.
Only on GetBig can humor be found in another man's passing.
LMAO!
"1"
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Two days ago no one was talking about the NY Post, today they are. Mission accomplished
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i dont know how yall NYers turn your back to each other on the track.
I can't get inside a crowd without hand on holster, on the ready-- too many nutjobs out there.
The thought of casually texting/sipping a latte while hundreds of strangers stand behind me, with a speeding train and 5 foot dropoff directly ahead. I dunno, I'd be standing at the back of that line or something.
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(http://www.digitalfilmmaker.net/Bang/images/VULTURE.jpg)
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Two days ago no one was talking about the NY Post, today they are. Mission accomplished
x1000
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another train track "incident" involving arabs
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Are the insinuating the train operator sped up?
Achmed wasn't the only one with a camera.
RIP jaejonna
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Sub-Humans
another train track "incident" involving arabs
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I'm not going to defend the photographer, but there was probably nothing he could go.
The pusher pushed him at the train signal, so you've got 5 - 15 seconds from there, the train was going at 35-40 mph till it's a few feet out from the start of the platform, someone might be able to figure the rate of deceleration, the car is about 70 feet long, 85000 pounds.
Almost everyone was 25 -30 feet down the platform, the guy had scared everyone but Han down that far. So you'd have to see the push, let it register in your mind, wait for Han to recover from the drop, etc.....
Lastly, and this is the scariest one, you could get pulled into the train path by the person in trouble. Think about it, most folks in trouble pull people toward them when being rescued, etc....
Photographer is a douche for offering the photo, but I don't think he could've done anything much.
Also, one interest thing I learned is that there is actually a light signal that might make the motor man stop if he sees it, not a flash, but a side to side light beam movement like nodding "No". That is the one sometimes used by track workers in emergency.
That`s not the point, an attempt would be a lot more appropriate then sitting there taking pics
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(http://www.digitalfilmmaker.net/Bang/images/VULTURE.jpg)
Interestingly, the photographer eventually killed himself.
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the photographer believed by repeatedly flashing his camera, he could alert the subway driver.
I dunno... at the very least, he should have been trying to yank that dude out until the last possible second. The line about using his camera to alert the driver sounds weak.
war photographers say that looking through the lens detaches you from the immediate situation .
i wonder how much he'll make from that picture ?
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That`s not the point, an attempt would be a lot more appropriate then sitting there taking pics
It is the point. Time it out. Figure 10 seconds.
Look down tracks - See something fly on to tracks - Register that it's a man - Run down track/wait for man to recover - Try to save......
We don't know the time it takes to get a photo. The man is professional photographer, his hand might of went directly to the camera and took a ton of shots in a second or two while he was running down the track.
Also the track was crowded, if this guy was actually setting up picture shots intentionally, there would be outrage from the people that were actually there seeing him do it, not just folks seeing it in their morning paper.
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Forget about the guy taking the picture, reports claim that there were well over 18 other people on that very platform witnessing all of this and not "1" made the effort to try and save this man.
Clearly, there were no GetBiggers on that platform..
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It is the point. Time it out. Figure 10 seconds.
Look down tracks - See something fly on to tracks - Register that it's a man - Run down track/wait for man to recover - Try to save......
We don't know the time it takes to get a photo. The man is professional photographer, his hand might of went directly to the camera and took a ton of shots in a second or two while he was running down the track.
Also the track was crowded, if this guy was actually setting up picture shots intentionally, there would be outrage from the people that were actually there seeing him do it, not just folks seeing it in their morning paper.
Judging by the pic, there was a chance and that is not the point. You can say it is all you want but that is not the reason people are pissed, they are pissed cause he did not attempt it, plain and simple.
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You also had the killer standing around till the man actually died. Add a hostile crazed cretan to the mix -
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/police_track_down_killer_C7VPhgEN9g9wqdUtanTGxJ .
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You also had the killer standing around till the man actually died. Add a hostile crazed cretan to the mix -
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/police_track_down_killer_C7VPhgEN9g9wqdUtanTGxJ .
Ya what an asshole, hope he get his.
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It is the point. Time it out. Figure 10 seconds.
Look down tracks - See something fly on to tracks - Register that it's a man - Run down track/wait for man to recover - Try to save......
We don't know the time it takes to get a photo. The man is professional photographer, his hand might of went directly to the camera and took a ton of shots in a second or two while he was running down the track.
Also the track was crowded, if this guy was actually setting up picture shots intentionally, there would be outrage from the people that were actually there seeing him do it, not just folks seeing it in their morning paper.
I wouldn't have tried to save him either, but the photographer's first instinct was to get the shot, not save the guy.
Every one on that platform was probably afraid they would be next if they got too close, the guy still had to be right there, and he just threw someone on the tracks.
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I wouldn't have tried to save him either, but the photographer's first instinct was to get the shot, not save the guy.
Every one on that platform was probably afraid they would be next if they got too close, the guy still had to be right there, and he just threw someone on the tracks.
It's a sad situation, but I'm in agreement.
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(http://www.digitalfilmmaker.net/Bang/images/VULTURE.jpg)
The photographer who took this photo ended up killing himself a few years later. He won a lot of awards for it. I forget the exact circumstances, but it was in a war zone and he was there as an observer, and under the rules of engagement photographers are not allowed to interfere in any way shape or form with what's going on. There was a UN station not a 100 yards from where the kid was crawling to, he could have easily picked it up and ran it over to give it aid, but instead he let it die.
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Ya what an asshole, hope he get his.
Should have pushed the killer down on the tracks in front of the other guy. ..
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Attention maroons.
If you read the account of the story, the cameraman was flashing his camera to get the attention of the operator. How do you know his real intentions?
you can atleast give him the benefit of the doubt. but the paper putting this on the front cover is just fucking outrageous.
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Of course Onetimehard is a superhero, and he would have subdued the killer and pulled the man to safety in 10 seconds.
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Attention maroons.
If you read the account of the story, the cameraman was flashing his camera to get the attention of the operator. How do you know his real intentions?
you can atleast give him the benefit of the doubt. but the paper putting this on the front cover is just fucking outrageous.
It amazes how for some strange reason getbig attracks the most gullible and naive crowd on the planet, if you are being sarcastic then disregard this post. I mean taking that picture had nothing to do with 5+k he sold it for, of course not ::)
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Of course Onetimehard is a superhero, and he would have subdued the killer and pulled the man to safety in 10 seconds.
NON SENSE >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
..............5 seconds ;D
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whos to say , if you bend over and give the guy a hand , the negro woudnt push you over too ???
its a hard choice to make, but i think you have to go over and a the very least reach down and give it a try, if your left hold his torn arm, well at least you tried
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The photographer who took this photo ended up killing himself a few years later. He won a lot of awards for it. I forget the exact circumstances, but it was in a war zone and he was there as an observer, and under the rules of engagement photographers are not allowed to interfere in any way shape or form with what's going on. There was a UN station not a 100 yards from where the kid was crawling to, he could have easily picked it up and ran it over to give it aid, but instead he let it die.
yes i know, i saw the movie from it. very sad.
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Damn 58 yrs old and unable to do a single pull up to save his life
This was my first thought. And sadly, probably one of that dude's last. :-\
I like to think I would have made a dash to try to lift him out in time.
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It amazes how for some strange reason getbig attracks the most gullible and naive crowd on the planet, if you are being sarcastic then disregard this post. I mean taking that picture had nothing to do with 5+k he sold it for, of course not ::)
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I suppose we also have some of the moronic know-it-alls.
'I know for a fact that this man just stood there and took pictures so he could sell them. No he was not doing this to alert the operator. No he wasnt running toward the guy to help him. Yes he coulf have helped him because the spaghetti monster told me how fast the train was moving. Yes he sold it for $5k (spaghetti monster told me)'
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I suppose we also have some of the moronic know-it-alls.
'I know for a fact that this man just stood there and took pictures so he could sell them. No he was not doing this to alert the operator. No he wasnt running toward the guy to help him. Yes he coulf have helped him because the spaghetti monster told me how fast the train was moving. Yes he sold it for $5k (spaghetti monster told me)'
I understand you are defending your towel headed cousin, but I guess he must be the greatest photographer in the world then....gets a perfect shot while holding his camera up hitting the flash as many time as he can.
he was taking pictures, and the flash was going off
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a black hobo getting in an argument with an unemployed drunk korean immigrant... oh well.
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Attention maroons.
If you read the account of the story, the cameraman was flashing his camera to get the attention of the operator. How do you know his real intentions?
you can atleast give him the benefit of the doubt. but the paper putting this on the front cover is just fucking outrageous.
you like your news sanitised do you? like letting the hierarchy decide what you should or should not be allowed to see ???
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a black hobo getting in an argument with an unemployed drunk korean immigrant... oh well.
If only they had a job at a factory wearing a hairnet
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People say they would give their life defending this country... Certainly put their life at risk for good old America.. sounds great. But given the chance to actually save someone's life, balk and do nothing because they might be at risk...
Granted, some of the people in the crowd were incapable of helping.. the 98 lb women etc.. some were likely fozen in shock and can't think under pressure, but the fact NO ONE made an effort... sad really..
And unless they publish 40 pictures showing this guy took a bunch of random panic motivated pictures of the train and just got lucky on this one shot... I'm saying he is a loser too.
recall there was a situation where someone was being attacked and left to die and there were so many 911 calls about it but no one would actually help.. Lot of instances where people had an opportunity to do something and sat on their hands... couldn't sleep at night if it were me.
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Then There is always one or 2 of these a year in court
http://abovethelaw.com/2011/08/lawsuit-of-the-day-good-samaritans-sue-woman-they-rescued/ (http://abovethelaw.com/2011/08/lawsuit-of-the-day-good-samaritans-sue-woman-they-rescued/)
Lawsuit of the Day: Good Samaritans Sue Woman They Rescued
Before you’ve been through 1L Torts, this story is shocking. After you’ve been through 1Ls Torts, it’s not that surprising.
In 2009, two Good Samaritans saw a Hummer crashed off the side of the road. The car was on fire. The two men sprang into action, ran down a snowy embankment, and pulled a woman from the burning wreckage.
They saved her life.
Which is interesting, considering that it turns out the woman was allegedly trying to kill herself.
The men suffered injuries, and now they are suing….
The Columbus Dispatch has the story. David Kelley and Mark Kinkaid acted heroically to pull a woman from a burning vehicle:
They hopped a barbed-wire fence, knocked down trees and brush, half ran and half slid down the steep highway embankment, and rushed the flaming Hummer.
Kelley said in an interview last week that he still remembers the woman’s screams: “ ‘Help me! Help me! Help me!’ Over and over and over, that’s all I could hear.”
Kinkaid and Kelley didn’t know who was inside, but they knew they had to get to her. They fought their way into the vehicle, wrenched a door open and pulled Theresa Tanner out, saving her from certain death.
Thing is, sometimes helping people hurts:
“All I know is that I am not the same man I used to be,” said Kelley, a 39-year-old truck driver and father of five. He says his lungs were so badly damaged from the heavy smoke and fire that day that he now can’t carry a laundry basket up the three flights of stairs in his Marion home.
“What I saw that day, that woman, it haunts me. The flames were so hot when we got to her that her hair was melting to her head — melting. There isn’t hardly a night that goes by that I don’t wake up in a sweat, that image in my mind.”
Long after the crash, Kelley and Kincaid learned that Tanner told authorities she was trying to end her life. That revelation seems to have prompted the lawsuit.
Which is, of course, an entirely proper response on the part of Kelley and Kincaid. Let the general public freak out about this “only in America” lawsuit. I’d ask, how else are these two guys supposed to pay their medical bills? How else are they supposed to recover from the injuries they suffered while trying to help this person out?
If the state isn’t going to cover them — and apparently the state is a little strapped for cash right now — then these guys have to do something.
Tort law is a lottery, and these guys drew the “attempted suicide” card. Lucky for them, because if they had just helped out a person who had been in a regular accident, they’d be out of luck.
UPDATE (8/2/11): Please see the comments. Perhaps the last sentence of this post should be rephrased as follows: “Lucky for them, because if they had just helped out a person who had been injured through nobody’s fault, they’d be out of luck.”
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Everyone has the right to defend their life instead of risking it for the life of someone else. There is nothing stupider than risking your life for someone who doesnt deserve it and endangering yours in the process, wanting to play hero in front of a crowd, more often than not, it's a bit more complicated than that. Just like it's stupid to go in a war when you dont even know why it was started or who is going to benefit from it. I wonder how many people were traumatized seeing the still barely breathing half body of a man dying on the ground just after going out the wagon, out of the blue.
Lesson to be learned here is: dont be black, dont be asian, dont drink and dont get in arguments with your wife. For white people: avoid drinking that impairs your judgment before going out, taking subway, and black and yellow colored "people".
Hopefully in the future there wont be any black "people" anymore, and good christian yellow faces will follow the Bible, treat their wives well and wont get drunk.
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Everyone has the right to defend their life instead of risking it for the life of someone else. There is nothing stupider than risking your life for someone and endangering yours in the process, wanting to play hero in front of a crowd, more often than not, it's a bit more complicated than that. Just like it's stupid to go in a war when you dont even know why it was started or who is going to benefit from it. I wonder how many people were traumatized seeing the still barely breathing half body of a man dying on the ground just after going out the wagon, out of the blue.
Lesson to be learned here is: dont be black, dont be asian, dont drink and dont get in arguments with your wife. For white people: avoid black and yellow colored "people".
Hopefully in the future there wont be any black "people" anymore, and good christian yellow faces will follow the Bible, treat their wives well and wont get drunk.
Shame you'll never get back the 4 minutes it took to type that nonsense ;)
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Shame you'll never get back the 4 minutes it took to type that nonsense ;)
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Is that suposed to be a joke, insult, or something?
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Everyone has the right to defend their life instead of risking it for the life of someone else. There is nothing stupider than risking your life for someone and endangering yours in the process, wanting to play hero in front of a crowd, more often than not, it's a bit more complicated than that. Just like it's stupid to go in a war when you dont even know why it was started or who is going to benefit from it. I wonder how many people were traumatized seeing the still barely breathing half body of a man dying on the ground just after going out the wagon, out of the blue.
Lesson to be learned here is: dont be black, dont be asian, dont drink and dont get in arguments with your wife. For white people: avoid drinking that impairs your judgment before going out, taking subway, and black and yellow colored "people".
Hopefully in the future there wont be any black "people" anymore, and good christian yellow faces will follow the Bible, treat their wives well and wont get drunk.
lesson to be learned here. stay in school so you don't wind up with a shitty factory job making 9 dollars an hour and being so miserable about your life you spend all day on a message board spewing bile at people who make ten times your salary.
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Is that suposed to be a joke, insult, or something?
it's a compliment!
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Umar Abassi is the freelance photographer who snapped the now infamous photo of a man seconds before he was hit by a subway train.
He went on the Today Show Wednesday to defend himself against critics who say he should've helped the victim instead of taking the photo.
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Death Penalty
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The culprit.
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/12/05/article-2242963-165B077A000005DC-291_634x384.jpg)
Most people have no idea how many monsters and animals there are like this on the NYC subway. They should feed this beast and worthless animal to eels.
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Killed by a negro.
Photographed dying by an Arab.
Welcome to America.
and ignored by everybody else
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I wouldn't have tried to save him either, but the photographer's first instinct was to get the shot, not save the guy.
Every one on that platform was probably afraid they would be next if they got too close, the guy still had to be right there, and he just threw someone on the tracks.
Good post.
I ride the subway all the time. The fact is that there are a lot of ghetto animal and barbarians who are very intimidating to smaller weak asians, single chics, elderly, etc and they feel powerless against these oversized monkeys who do nothing but loiter, ride the rails all day, stink up the joint, pester people going to work, layabout slanging rap songs out loud etc, and just looking for a problem.
Where is Justin Volpe, Bernie Getz when you need them?
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Everyone has the right to defend their life instead of risking it for the life of someone else. There is nothing stupider than risking your life for someone who doesnt deserve it and endangering yours in the process, wanting to play hero in front of a crowd, more often than not, it's a bit more complicated than that. Just like it's stupid to go in a war when you dont even know why it was started or who is going to benefit from it. I wonder how many people were traumatized seeing the still barely breathing half body of a man dying on the ground just after going out the wagon, out of the blue.
Lesson to be learned here is: dont be black, dont be asian, dont drink and dont get in arguments with your wife. For white people: avoid drinking that impairs your judgment before going out, taking subway, and black and yellow colored "people".
Hopefully in the future there wont be any black "people" anymore, and good christian yellow faces will follow the Bible, treat their wives well and wont get drunk.
are you a follower of Christ ?
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Good post.
I ride the subway all the time. The fact is that there are a lot of ghetto animal and barbarians who are very intimidating to smaller weak asians, single chics, elderly, etc and they feel powerless against these oversized monkeys who do nothing but loiter, ride the rails all day, stink up the joint, pester people going to work, layabout slanging rap songs out loud etc, and just looking for a problem.
Where is Justin Volpe, Bernie Getz when you need them?
Hmm. And we were always told you were the tough, righteous, vigilante-type. Ah, well.
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Hmm. And we were always told you were the tough, righteous ,vigilante-type. Ah, well.
Not when you are outnumbered 10 to 1 on the subway by these animals. Fuck that. I just keep marching on.
I was on the 4 today - feel like I was a warden overseeing Gen. Pop with all the animals loitering about.
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Not when you are outnumbered 10 to 1 on the subway by these animals. Fuck that. I just keep marching on.
I was on the 4 today - feel like I was a warden overseeing Gen. Pop with all the animals loitering about.
Morality for you is a numbers game, eh? Not surprising.
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I understand you are defending your towel headed cousin, but I guess he must be the greatest photographer in the world then....gets a perfect shot while holding his camera up hitting the flash as many time as he can.
he was taking pictures, and the flash was going off
I don't give a fuck what his race was, I took his word for it when I read the article and it seemed plausible. On second thought, it does seem implausible to be able to run to save someone and take photos at the same time, lol.
The trouble is that we're monday quarterbacking this shit, but for all we know there was a very short span for someone to be able to do anything about it. If you were in the situation, you would have a better intuition about the amount of time you would have for action. For example, if the guy is 15 sec. away from you and the train will hit him in 10 sec. what is the point in running over to him? And even if you do get to him, it would be hard for one person to be able to get the guy to climb up in time.
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And even if you do get to him, it would be hard for one person to be able to get the guy to climb up in time.
Isn't this the reason why we lift?
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Killed by a negro.
Photographed dying by an Arab.
Welcome to America.
I say take funeral costs outa united negro college fund
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I ride the subway all the time. The fact is that there are a lot of ghetto animal and barbarians who are very intimidating to smaller weak asians, single chics, elderly, etc and they feel powerless against these oversized monkeys who do nothing but loiter, ride the rails all day, stink up the joint, pester people going to work, layabout slanging rap songs out loud etc, and just looking for a problem.
You need a t-shirt that reads "If you support Obama, start a fight with me and I'll finish it".
Wear it all day one day. have a friend walk 20 feet back with a cell phone camera or video camera.
Smirk and mock those who sing and act stupid - get them to assault you. Then kick the shit out of them. Then call the police, show them the video, and get them locked up for a year. You can defend yourself. Let them punch you once, then hit them 5 times before they hit the gorund. Then have them locked up and fined.
Do this every day. You could probably get sponsored by some "get the garbage off the street" thinking people!
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NYC is PC central. The ghetto animal and thug is immune to legal punishment and they know it.
You need a t-shirt that reads "If you support Obama, start a fight with me and I'll finish it".
Wear it all day one day. have a friend walk 20 feet back with a cell phone camera or video camera.
Smirk and mock those who sing and act stupid - get them to assault you. Then kick the shit out of them. Then call the police, show them the video, and get them locked up for a year. You can defend yourself. Let them punch you once, then hit them 5 times before they hit the gorund. Then have them locked up and fined.
Do this every day. You could probably get sponsored by some "get the garbage off the street" thinking people!
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NYC is PC central. The ghetto animal and thug is immune to legal punishment and they know it.
if you have video of someone punching you first, they go to prison. you finish the fight, you call police and have your friend video that too.
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if you have video of someone punching you first, they go to prison. you finish the fight, you call police and have your friend video that too.
Nope. I got off criminals scot free for way worse.
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Nope. I got off criminals scot free for way worse.
you defend bad guys?
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I don't think anyone there tried to save him. And they probably feel like shit that they were there and had to see that, but who is going to run and try and drag a man out of a subway tunnel with a train bearing down on them, and the crazy fucker who threw him on the tracks standing right there. maybe Batman, but not me.
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(http://www.digitalfilmmaker.net/Bang/images/VULTURE.jpg)
The photographer who took this photo ended up killing himself a few years later. He won a lot of awards for it. I forget the exact circumstances, but it was in a war zone and he was there as an observer, and under the rules of engagement photographers are not allowed to interfere in any way shape or form with what's going on. There was a UN station not a 100 yards from where the kid was crawling to, he could have easily picked it up and ran it over to give it aid, but instead he let it die.
I highly doubt he would have suffered ANY punishment for doing that - and I bet he knew it.
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(http://www.digitalfilmmaker.net/Bang/images/VULTURE.jpg)
Deeply disturbing; moreso than the train.
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Deeply disturbing; moreso than the train.
Another one of Ronnies children left to die with no child support
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The photo is very well centered and perfect to be taken while running. For those who know about photography it's clear that it took some time to set up and take that shot.
From my time working emergency i'd like to think i would try and help but they teach you to put your life first and with that neegul standing there who knows if he wouldn't have pushed me and not let me climb back up?
Shitty situation
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but if ten people had rushed to help, he could have easily been pulled out.
the driver woudl have seen ten people there (he should have seen one!)
and the pusher would have had his hands full.
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Nope. I got off criminals scot free for way worse.
Thought you said you were some kind of real estate lawyer, not a defense lawyer..
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Thought you said you were some kind of real estate lawyer, not a defense lawyer..
I do mostly construction litigation and lien foreclosures. But sometimes employees of the clients do stupid shit and need to get bailed out or whatever.
I had one guy who was an illegal domincan beat the shit out of a traffic controller at LaGuardia w a car door like in Raging Bull. He fled the scene and then was found w coke on him. He was also a good employee to the client and he asked me to help out.
Guess what these scumbag got? 4 months of anger mgmt 1 once per week.
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I do mostly construction litigation and lien foreclosures. But sometimes employees of the clients do stupid shit and need to get bailed out or whatever.
I had one guy who was an illegal domincan beat the shit out of a traffic controller at LaGuardia w a car door like in Raging Bull. He fled the scene and then was found w coke on him. He was also a good employee to the client and he asked me to help out.
Guess what these scumbag got? 4 months of anger mgmt 1 once per week.
so you get paid to help (of your own free will) scumbags avoid justice ?
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so you get paid to help (of your own free will) scumbags avoid justice ?
Very rare occurence thankfully. I don't try to claim they are innocent. Usually the DA offers it up front since there is such a back log of criminals in the system.
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but if ten people had rushed to help, he could have easily been pulled out.
the driver woudl have seen ten people there (he should have seen one!)
and the pusher would have had his hands full.
Yeah but in a city there's no cooperation between stressed, egocentrical people, it's everyone for himself. Especially in an occidental city. When everyone else is focusing on his own sorry ass, it is normal to do the same, you would be dumb to do the opposite. You simply adapt to the environment to survive. Now things would probably have been a lot different outside of a city in a town where everyone knows each others...but doubt they have subways there (http://www.deviantart.com/download/175909163/Retarded_smiley_by_herupandir.jpg)
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Very rare occurence thankfully. I don't try to claim they are innocent. Usually the DA offers it up front since there is such a back log of criminals in the system.
GB Shaw: Madam, would you sleep with me for a million pounds?
Actress: My goodness, Well, I'd certainly think about it
GB Shaw: Would you sleep with me for a pound?
Actress: Certainly not! What kind of woman do you think I am?!
GB Shaw: Madam, we've already established that. Now we are haggling about the price.
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GB Shaw: Madam, would you sleep with me for a million pounds?
Actress: My goodness, Well, I'd certainly think about it
GB Shaw: Would you sleep with me for a pound?
Actress: Certainly not! What kind of woman do you think I am?!
GB Shaw: Madam, we've already established that. Now we are haggling about the price.
It is what it is.
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Very low brow to publish this. Cheapens death which in turn cheapens life. I wish herpes on all involved
You can't catch Herpes twice, or so I've been told.
Attention maroons.
If you read the account of the story, the cameraman was flashing his camera to get the attention of the operator. How do you know his real intentions?
you can atleast give him the benefit of the doubt. but the paper putting this on the front cover is just fucking outrageous.
He was one of dem dere A-rabs, and since ethnicity determines the content of one's mental states (being black causes watermelon thoughts, etc.), we know the nature of his mind perfectly well.
but if ten people had rushed to help, he could have easily been pulled out.
the driver woudl would have seen ten people there (he should have seen one!)
and the pusher would have had his hands full.
But if I had a bajillion dollars I'd have funded an American Hadron Collider to discover the secrets of time travel and warp back to the tracks, preventing this tragedy and altering the causal chain of events, thus creating a parallel universe where our Korean friend persisted (well, 'perdured', to be exact).
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The cover of Tuesday's New York Post — which shows a man moments before he was fatally struck by a subway train —is sparking outrage from readers.
Han, a 58 year old father from Queens, was pushed into the subway tracks by "a deranged man" on Monday afternoon. One witness said that he was caught between the platform and the train, and dragged. The front page of the Post showed Han trying to lift himself back onto the platform at the 49th Street station as a Q train approached.
On Tuesday, readers asked why the photographer didn't try to help Han instead. The picture was taken by R. Umar Abbasi, whom the Post described as a "freelance photographer." The paper and Abbasi said that he was running toward the train and "repeatedly firing off his flash to warn the operator."
PHOTO:
Alexander Abad-Santos at the Atlantic Wire noted, "Getting a conductor's attention with a flash — and maybe even blinding him with it — doesn't seem like the way you'd necessarily help someone that's clinging to the subway platform."
Others on Twitter harshly criticized both Abbasi for taking the photo and the Post for running it. People called the paper "despicable" and the "trashiest of f-cking trash." "Real classy, NY Post. Real classy," one person wrote. Below, see some of the reactions on Twitter.
Capital New York reached out to four tabloid photographers for their takes, and they were not as quick to blame Abbasi. "Honestly, I can't fault this photographer," one photographer wrote, citing the other observers on the subway platform. "They're either all guilty of turning their back on [Han], or they're not. Can't lay blame on this guy alone."
all american'ts are highly offensive to evolved humans
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He was one of dem dere A-rabs, and since ethnicity determines the content of one's mental states (being black causes watermelon thoughts, etc.), we know the nature of his mind perfectly well.
;D
an excellent point indeed sir.