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Re: New York Post cover sparks outrage
« Reply #50 on: December 05, 2012, 09:39:31 AM »
It is the point. Time it out. Figure 10 seconds.

Look down tracks - See something fly on to tracks - Register that it's a man - Run down track/wait for man to recover - Try to save......

We don't know the time it takes to get a  photo. The man is professional photographer, his hand might of went directly to the camera and took a ton of shots in a second or two while he was running down the track.

Also the track was crowded, if this guy was actually setting up picture shots intentionally, there would be outrage from the people that were actually there seeing him do it, not just folks seeing it in their morning paper.

I wouldn't have tried to save him either, but the photographer's first instinct was to get the shot, not save the guy.

Every one on that platform was probably afraid they would be next if they got too close, the guy still had to be right there, and he just threw someone on the tracks.

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Re: New York Post cover sparks outrage
« Reply #51 on: December 05, 2012, 09:40:23 AM »
I wouldn't have tried to save him either, but the photographer's first instinct was to get the shot, not save the guy.

Every one on that platform was probably afraid they would be next if they got too close, the guy still had to be right there, and he just threw someone on the tracks.

It's a sad situation, but I'm in agreement.

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Re: New York Post cover sparks outrage
« Reply #52 on: December 05, 2012, 09:42:16 AM »


The photographer who took this photo ended up killing himself a few years later.  He won a lot of awards for it.  I forget the exact circumstances, but it was in a war zone and he was there as an observer, and under the rules of engagement photographers are not allowed to interfere in any way shape or form with what's going on.  There was a UN station not a 100 yards from where the kid was crawling to, he could have easily picked it up and ran it over to give it aid, but instead he let it die.

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Re: New York Post cover sparks outrage
« Reply #53 on: December 05, 2012, 09:43:17 AM »
Ya what an asshole, hope he get his.
Should have pushed the killer down on the tracks in front of the other guy. ..

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Re: New York Post cover sparks outrage
« Reply #54 on: December 05, 2012, 09:43:30 AM »
Attention maroons.

If you read the account of the story, the cameraman was flashing his camera to get the attention of the operator. How do you know his real intentions?

you can atleast give him the benefit of the doubt. but the paper putting this on the front cover is just fucking outrageous.
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Re: New York Post cover sparks outrage
« Reply #55 on: December 05, 2012, 09:45:19 AM »
Of course Onetimehard is a superhero, and he would have subdued the killer and pulled the man to safety in 10 seconds.

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Re: New York Post cover sparks outrage
« Reply #56 on: December 05, 2012, 09:48:07 AM »
Attention maroons.

If you read the account of the story, the cameraman was flashing his camera to get the attention of the operator. How do you know his real intentions?

you can atleast give him the benefit of the doubt. but the paper putting this on the front cover is just fucking outrageous.
It amazes how for some strange reason getbig attracks the most gullible and naive crowd on the planet, if you are being sarcastic then disregard this post. I mean taking that picture had nothing to do with 5+k he sold it for, of course not  ::)

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Re: New York Post cover sparks outrage
« Reply #57 on: December 05, 2012, 09:48:53 AM »
Of course Onetimehard is a superhero, and he would have subdued the killer and pulled the man to safety in 10 seconds.
NON SENSE  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(




..............5 seconds  ;D

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Re: New York Post cover sparks outrage
« Reply #58 on: December 05, 2012, 09:50:10 AM »
whos to say , if you bend over and give the guy a hand , the negro woudnt push you over too ???

its a hard choice to make, but i think you have to go over and a the very least reach down and give it a try, if your left hold his torn arm, well at least you tried


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Re: New York Post cover sparks outrage
« Reply #59 on: December 05, 2012, 09:55:58 AM »
The photographer who took this photo ended up killing himself a few years later.  He won a lot of awards for it.  I forget the exact circumstances, but it was in a war zone and he was there as an observer, and under the rules of engagement photographers are not allowed to interfere in any way shape or form with what's going on.  There was a UN station not a 100 yards from where the kid was crawling to, he could have easily picked it up and ran it over to give it aid, but instead he let it die.

yes i know, i saw the movie from it. very sad.

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Re: New York Post cover sparks outrage
« Reply #60 on: December 05, 2012, 09:56:43 AM »
Damn 58 yrs old and unable to do a single pull up to save his life

This was my first thought.  And sadly, probably one of that dude's last.  :-\

I like to think I would have made a dash to try to lift him out in time.

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Re: New York Post cover sparks outrage
« Reply #61 on: December 05, 2012, 09:58:25 AM »
It amazes how for some strange reason getbig attracks the most gullible and naive crowd on the planet, if you are being sarcastic then disregard this post. I mean taking that picture had nothing to do with 5+k he sold it for, of course not  ::)
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I suppose we also have some of the moronic know-it-alls.

'I know for a fact that this man just stood there and took pictures so he could sell them. No he was not doing this to alert the operator. No he wasnt running toward the guy to help him. Yes he coulf have helped him because the spaghetti monster told me how fast the train was moving. Yes he sold it for $5k (spaghetti monster told me)'
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Re: New York Post cover sparks outrage
« Reply #62 on: December 05, 2012, 10:02:50 AM »
::)

I suppose we also have some of the moronic know-it-alls.

'I know for a fact that this man just stood there and took pictures so he could sell them. No he was not doing this to alert the operator. No he wasnt running toward the guy to help him. Yes he coulf have helped him because the spaghetti monster told me how fast the train was moving. Yes he sold it for $5k (spaghetti monster told me)'

I understand you are defending your towel headed cousin, but I guess he must be the greatest photographer in the world then....gets a perfect shot while holding his camera up hitting the flash as many time as he can.

he was taking pictures, and the flash was going off

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Re: New York Post cover sparks outrage
« Reply #63 on: December 05, 2012, 10:04:11 AM »
a black hobo getting in an argument with an unemployed drunk korean immigrant... oh well.

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Re: New York Post cover sparks outrage
« Reply #64 on: December 05, 2012, 10:06:26 AM »
Attention maroons.

If you read the account of the story, the cameraman was flashing his camera to get the attention of the operator. How do you know his real intentions?

you can atleast give him the benefit of the doubt. but the paper putting this on the front cover is just fucking outrageous.

you like your news sanitised do you? like letting the hierarchy decide what you should or should not be allowed to see  ???

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Re: New York Post cover sparks outrage
« Reply #65 on: December 05, 2012, 10:06:46 AM »
a black hobo getting in an argument with an unemployed drunk korean immigrant... oh well.

If only they had a job at a factory wearing a hairnet

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Re: New York Post cover sparks outrage
« Reply #66 on: December 05, 2012, 10:10:00 AM »
People say they would give their life defending this country... Certainly put their life at risk for good old America.. sounds great. But given the chance to actually save someone's life, balk and do nothing because they might be at risk...

Granted, some of the people in the crowd were incapable of helping.. the 98 lb women etc.. some were likely fozen in shock and can't think under pressure, but the fact NO ONE made an effort... sad really..

And unless they publish 40 pictures showing this guy took a bunch of random panic motivated pictures of the train and just got lucky on this one shot... I'm saying he is a loser too.

recall there was a situation where someone was being attacked and left to die and there were so many 911 calls about it but no one would actually help.. Lot of instances where people had an opportunity to do something and sat on their hands... couldn't sleep at night if it were me.  

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Re: New York Post cover sparks outrage
« Reply #67 on: December 05, 2012, 10:12:34 AM »

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Re: New York Post cover sparks outrage
« Reply #68 on: December 05, 2012, 10:14:27 AM »
Then There is always one or 2 of these a year in court


http://abovethelaw.com/2011/08/lawsuit-of-the-day-good-samaritans-sue-woman-they-rescued/


Lawsuit of the Day: Good Samaritans Sue Woman They Rescued



Before you’ve been through 1L Torts, this story is shocking. After you’ve been through 1Ls Torts, it’s not that surprising.

In 2009, two Good Samaritans saw a Hummer crashed off the side of the road. The car was on fire. The two men sprang into action, ran down a snowy embankment, and pulled a woman from the burning wreckage.

They saved her life.

Which is interesting, considering that it turns out the woman was allegedly trying to kill herself.

The men suffered injuries, and now they are suing….

The Columbus Dispatch has the story. David Kelley and Mark Kinkaid acted heroically to pull a woman from a burning vehicle:

    They hopped a barbed-wire fence, knocked down trees and brush, half ran and half slid down the steep highway embankment, and rushed the flaming Hummer.

    Kelley said in an interview last week that he still remembers the woman’s screams: “  ‘Help me! Help me! Help me!’ Over and over and over, that’s all I could hear.”

    Kinkaid and Kelley didn’t know who was inside, but they knew they had to get to her. They fought their way into the vehicle, wrenched a door open and pulled Theresa Tanner out, saving her from certain death.

Thing is, sometimes helping people hurts:

    “All I know is that I am not the same man I used to be,” said Kelley, a 39-year-old truck driver and father of five. He says his lungs were so badly damaged from the heavy smoke and fire that day that he now can’t carry a laundry basket up the three flights of stairs in his Marion home.

    “What I saw that day, that woman, it haunts me. The flames were so hot when we got to her that her hair was melting to her head — melting. There isn’t hardly a night that goes by that I don’t wake up in a sweat, that image in my mind.”

Long after the crash, Kelley and Kincaid learned that Tanner told authorities she was trying to end her life. That revelation seems to have prompted the lawsuit.

Which is, of course, an entirely proper response on the part of Kelley and Kincaid. Let the general public freak out about this “only in America” lawsuit. I’d ask, how else are these two guys supposed to pay their medical bills? How else are they supposed to recover from the injuries they suffered while trying to help this person out?

If the state isn’t going to cover them — and apparently the state is a little strapped for cash right now — then these guys have to do something.

Tort law is a lottery, and these guys drew the “attempted suicide” card. Lucky for them, because if they had just helped out a person who had been in a regular accident, they’d be out of luck.

UPDATE (8/2/11): Please see the comments. Perhaps the last sentence of this post should be rephrased as follows: “Lucky for them, because if they had just helped out a person who had been injured through nobody’s fault, they’d be out of luck.”

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Re: New York Post cover sparks outrage
« Reply #69 on: December 05, 2012, 10:19:45 AM »
Everyone has the right to defend their life instead of risking it for the life of someone else. There is nothing stupider than risking your life for someone who doesnt deserve it and endangering yours in the process, wanting to play hero in front of a crowd, more often than not, it's a bit more complicated than that. Just like it's stupid to go in a war when you dont even know why it was started or who is going to benefit from it. I wonder how many people were traumatized seeing the still barely breathing half body of a man dying on the ground just after going out the wagon, out of the blue.

Lesson to be learned here is: dont be black, dont be asian, dont drink and dont get in arguments with your wife. For white people: avoid drinking that impairs your judgment before going out, taking subway, and black and yellow colored "people".

Hopefully in the future there wont be any black "people" anymore, and good christian yellow faces will follow the Bible, treat their wives well and wont get drunk.

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Re: New York Post cover sparks outrage
« Reply #70 on: December 05, 2012, 10:23:09 AM »
Everyone has the right to defend their life instead of risking it for the life of someone else. There is nothing stupider than risking your life for someone and endangering yours in the process, wanting to play hero in front of a crowd, more often than not, it's a bit more complicated than that. Just like it's stupid to go in a war when you dont even know why it was started or who is going to benefit from it. I wonder how many people were traumatized seeing the still barely breathing half body of a man dying on the ground just after going out the wagon, out of the blue.

Lesson to be learned here is: dont be black, dont be asian, dont drink and dont get in arguments with your wife. For white people: avoid black and yellow colored "people".

Hopefully in the future there wont be any black "people" anymore, and good christian yellow faces will follow the Bible, treat their wives well and wont get drunk.

Shame you'll never get back the 4 minutes it took to type that nonsense  ;)

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Re: New York Post cover sparks outrage
« Reply #71 on: December 05, 2012, 10:23:25 AM »
Shame you'll never get back the 4 minutes it took to type that nonsense  ;)

 ???

Is that suposed to be a joke, insult, or something?

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Re: New York Post cover sparks outrage
« Reply #72 on: December 05, 2012, 10:27:10 AM »
Everyone has the right to defend their life instead of risking it for the life of someone else. There is nothing stupider than risking your life for someone and endangering yours in the process, wanting to play hero in front of a crowd, more often than not, it's a bit more complicated than that. Just like it's stupid to go in a war when you dont even know why it was started or who is going to benefit from it. I wonder how many people were traumatized seeing the still barely breathing half body of a man dying on the ground just after going out the wagon, out of the blue.

Lesson to be learned here is: dont be black, dont be asian, dont drink and dont get in arguments with your wife. For white people: avoid drinking that impairs your judgment before going out, taking subway, and black and yellow colored "people".

Hopefully in the future there wont be any black "people" anymore, and good christian yellow faces will follow the Bible, treat their wives well and wont get drunk.

lesson to be learned here. stay in school so you don't wind up with a shitty factory job making 9 dollars an hour and being so miserable about your life you spend all day on a message board spewing bile at people who make ten times your salary.

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Re: New York Post cover sparks outrage
« Reply #73 on: December 05, 2012, 10:31:47 AM »
???

Is that suposed to be a joke, insult, or something?

it's a compliment!

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Re: New York Post cover sparks outrage
« Reply #74 on: December 05, 2012, 12:08:48 PM »
Umar Abassi is the freelance photographer who snapped the now infamous photo of a man seconds before he was hit by a subway train.
 
He went on the Today Show Wednesday to defend himself against critics who say he should've helped the victim instead of taking the photo.