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Title: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: 240 is Back on December 23, 2012, 09:27:28 PM
TEBOW REFUSES TO PLAY SUNDAY IN WILDCAT

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Tim Tebow finally stood up for himself. After learning last week he wouldn’t start for the benched Mark Sanchez against the San Diego Chargers, he told his coaches not to put him in any Wildcat packages, according to a source.

 Good for him.

 The nice guy showed he no longer wanted to be a part of the Jets’ season-long ruse.

 His star has fallen far and fast with the Jets. And not because he has underperformed, but rather because he has never been given a chance.

 Tebow took his place on the sideline on Sunday to watch the underwhelming Greg McElroy get sacked 11 times in the Jets’ 27-17 loss to San Diego.

 It should have been Tebow’s game to win or lose.

 When Rex Ryan decided to activate all three quarterbacks without naming a backup for the game, Tebow became the NFL’s version of an innocent bystander.

 Sanchez held the clipboard, charting plays tethered to offensive coordinator Tony Sparano’s side. Tebow spent most of the game stalking the sidelines with his hands in the warmer pouch hanging from his hips.

 Ryan and Tebow strained credibility after the game, first the coach saying they had practiced all week using receiver Jeremy Kerley taking snaps out of the Wildcat because it added an element of surprise to the passing game. And then Tebow played good soldier, never mentioning that he had asked out, with his “team-first" comments.

“I was just trying to help the team any way I can," Tebow said.

 How can he help the team  standing on the sidelines?

“Try to be encouraging. Try to be a leader on the sidelines," Tebow said.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 23, 2012, 09:44:11 PM
The guys a fraud...Why say anything? Why not just fake an injury if he doesn't want to go in for the last game. Jaguars are gonna find out in a hurry when he's traded just how bad the guy is in practice next year. Some claim he'd rather be in the gym building his muscles for the boys than learning how to play QB. From what I heard, the Jets thought Tebow was going to be pretty good going into the season. But Rex and company couldn't believe just how bad he was in practice. And Tebow was all golly gee guys all the time. Fukcing weirdo. 3o0 pound monsters trying to kill you and Tebow didn't want any of his teammates using bad words around him. Get the fukc outta here Tebow.
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: SF1900 on December 23, 2012, 09:46:49 PM
Coach is going to be disappointed!
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: ChopperRider on December 23, 2012, 09:55:00 PM
The guys a fraud...Why say anything? Why not just fake an injury if he doesn't want to go in for the last game. Jaguars are gonna find out in a hurry when he's traded just how bad the guy is in practice next year. Some claim he'd rather be in the gym building his muscles for the boys than learning how to play QB. From what I heard, the Jets thought Tebow was going to be pretty good going into the season. But Rex and company couldn't believe just how bad he was in practice. And Tebow was all golly gee guys all the time. Fukcing weirdo. 3o0 pound monsters trying to kill you and Tebow didn't want any of his teammates using bad words around him. Get the fukc outta here Tebow.

In a league full of felons, murderers, rapists, drug addicts, and baby mommas, I'd take Tim Tebow on my team any day of the week.

Tebow is still 300% better than anything the Arizona Cardinals trotted out on the field today.
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 23, 2012, 09:57:17 PM
The guys a fraud...Why say anything? Why not just fake an injury if he doesn't want to go in for the last game. Jaguars are gonna find out in a hurry when he's traded just how bad the guy is in practice nexit year. Some claim he'd rather be in the gym building his muscles for the boys than learning how to play QB. From what I heard, the Jets thought Tebow was going to be pretty good going into the season. But Rex and company couldn't believe just how bad he was in practice. And Tebow was all golly gee guys all the time. Fukcing weirdo. 3o0 pound monsters trying to kill you and Tebow didn't want any of his teammates using bad words around him. Get the fukc outta here Tebow.

How soon people forget what he did for the Broncos last season. Turns out the only frauds are the jets, and I liked Rex Ryan but he screwed Tebow over. As far as being "too muscular"? That's an old sport wives tale.
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: ChopperRider on December 23, 2012, 10:02:14 PM
How soon people forget what he did for the Broncos last season. Turns out the only frauds are the jets, and I liked Rex Ryan but he screwed Tebow over. As far as being "too muscular"? That's an old sport wives tale.

Mark Sanchez is a fraud. Admittedly, Tim Tebow won't ever be enshrined in Canton, but Mark Sanchez is as overrated and overpaid as anyone in the NFL (except for Kevin Kolb).
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: 240 is Back on December 23, 2012, 10:19:39 PM
He's not an accurate passer.  He had success in 4th quarters against prevent defenses, but since the league learned how to defend him, he was pretty average at the end of last year.  He won against a highly injured PIT team, and was destroyed by New England. 

He could work in the NFL, but the entire offense would have to be based around his "read one route, then run for it" strategy.  Any team that takes him on would probably have to commit for the year.   Jax should give it a try and see what the wildcat can do.  But we'll also see Tebow miss 3 open passes every game.  I dont think that can succeed at pro level, and that after a quick stint in JAX, it'll be Tebow moving to fullback.
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: arce1988 on December 23, 2012, 10:30:27 PM
  He seems like a homosexual
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: Shockwave on December 23, 2012, 10:30:57 PM
  He seems like a homosexual
Lol.
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: tbombz on December 23, 2012, 10:35:58 PM
tebow wins games, period.


Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 23, 2012, 10:39:15 PM
Mark Sanchez is a fraud. Admittedly, Tim Tebow won't ever be enshrined in Canton, but Mark Sanchez is as overrated and overpaid as anyone in the NFL (except for Kevin Kolb).

Sanchez took them to two playoffs. Hardly a fraud
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on December 23, 2012, 11:20:11 PM
they seem like homosexuals.
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: arce1988 on December 23, 2012, 11:22:41 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: G_Thang on December 23, 2012, 11:31:05 PM
Sanchez took them to two playoffs. Hardly a fraud

be silent, old b e a n e r.  the defense took them to 2 play offs while the offense avg 6 pts per game and as many turnovers.
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 23, 2012, 11:55:56 PM
be silent, old b e a n e r.  the defense took them to 2 play offs while the offense avg 6 pts per game and as many turnovers.

Why the racist remarks? I don't call you "G_Thang, the magic kneegrow".
_
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on December 23, 2012, 11:58:03 PM
Why the racist remarks? I don't call you "G_Thang, the magic kneegrow".
_

he's not black. he's cubano.  related to sergio olvia by marriage - the olvias are known for having the brains in the family.
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: Bevo on December 24, 2012, 01:13:27 AM
he's not black. he's cubano.  related to sergio olvia by marriage - the olvias are known for having the brains in the family.

He thinks he's cuban ::)
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: MCWAY on December 24, 2012, 08:56:10 AM
He's not an accurate passer.  He had success in 4th quarters against prevent defenses, but since the league learned how to defend him, he was pretty average at the end of last year.  He won against a highly injured PIT team, and was destroyed by New England. 

He could work in the NFL, but the entire offense would have to be based around his "read one route, then run for it" strategy.  Any team that takes him on would probably have to commit for the year.   Jax should give it a try and see what the wildcat can do.  But we'll also see Tebow miss 3 open passes every game.  I dont think that can succeed at pro level, and that after a quick stint in JAX, it'll be Tebow moving to fullback.

He has succeeded at the pro level, thus far. And, with regards to beating an injured Steeler team, his team was highly injured as well: Moreno, OUT! Bailey, OUT! Decker, OUT (injured during the game)!!

The saying goes: You live by the blitz; you die by the blitz. Pittsburgh's blitzers weren't getting to Tebow and when he scrambled out of the pockets, guy were WIDE OPEN and Tebow hit them (and they actually caught the balls).

A team like Jacksonville should build their team around him. It can't get much worse for them at this point.

Let's see what Tebow can do, when he doesn't have to dig a team out of a 1-4 hole.
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: Nails on December 24, 2012, 09:01:52 AM
Fuck Fat Ryan and his shitting Coaching , Dude was to afraid of the TeBow Phenomenon and his Fat Belly and EGO got in the way



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Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: Shockwave on December 24, 2012, 09:03:13 AM
Fuck Fat Ryan and his shitting Coaching , Dude was to afraid of the TeBow Phenomenon and Fat Belly was EGO got in the way



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Monster arm to torso ratio. /dj18sucksondick
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: WOOO on December 24, 2012, 09:41:45 AM
hard to say that Tebow couldn't have contributed when he was not even given a chance...
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: G_Thang on December 24, 2012, 09:53:55 AM
He thinks he's cuban ::)

you're willing to put your mom's vagina on the line, if you are wrong. 
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: Bevo on December 24, 2012, 09:56:36 AM
you're willing to put your mom's vagina on the line, if you are wrong.  

I have 2 dads :-\ will that work too?
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: 240 is Back on December 24, 2012, 10:02:08 AM
sometimes, guys can come into sports and make their mark, tear shit up, before people have film on them.

once you learn Lin can't go left or Tebow can't hit open passes from the pocket, you realize how to defend him.

The NFL is all about winning.  Coach Ryan is a smart guy.  If he thought Tebow gave them the best chance to win, Tebow would be in the game.  We all saw tebow in the pre-season, missing guys by 5 yards who were wide open in the end zone.

mcelroy isn't great, but he was very good at alabama and will be a solid QB in 2 years.
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: Bevo on December 24, 2012, 10:03:23 AM
sometimes, guys can come into sports and make their mark, tear shit up, before people have film on them.

once you learn Lin can't go left or Tebow can't hit open passes from the pocket, you realize how to defend him.

The NFL is all about winning.  Coach Ryan is a smart guy.  If he thought Tebow gave them the best chance to win, Tebow would be in the game.  We all saw tebow in the pre-season, missing guys by 5 yards who were wide open in the end zone.

mcelroy isn't great, but he was very good at alabama and will be a solid QB in 2 years.

Lin is still pretty good though...
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: 240 is Back on December 24, 2012, 10:08:01 AM
Lin is still pretty good though...

yeah, but he was unstoppable initially.  Then he went to just being a good player.

Tebow won a few of those games on sheer luck.  He won some on a good defense.  He won some because the D didn't know how to stop him from running.

I love an underdog, I am a big fan, BUT at the same time, I know he isn't accurate enough to be an NFL QB.  He can be a gimmick QB.  He can be a back.  A team can build around him, but he is going to break down in a year of running 20 times a game. 

If I'm a GM, I don't risk it.  And being a GM or coach isn't about starting the players with the best moral resume, it's about starting the players that can throw accurately at 30 yards.
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: Bevo on December 24, 2012, 10:11:29 AM
yeah, but he was unstoppable initially.  Then he went to just being a good player.

Tebow won a few of those games on sheer luck.  He won some on a good defense.  He won some because the D didn't know how to stop him from running.

I love an underdog, I am a big fan, BUT at the same time, I know he isn't accurate enough to be an NFL QB.  He can be a gimmick QB.  He can be a back.  A team can build around him, but he is going to break down in a year of running 20 times a game. 

If I'm a GM, I don't risk it.  And being a GM or coach isn't about starting the players with the best moral resume, it's about starting the players that can throw accurately at 30 yards.

That's true
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 24, 2012, 11:04:34 AM
be silent, old b e a n e r.  the defense took them to 2 play offs while the offense avg 6 pts per game and as many turnovers.

Good post...The defense and the kicker are the reason the Bronco's made the playoffs.
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: Option D on December 24, 2012, 11:08:22 AM
Sanchez took them to two playoffs. Hardly a fraud

2 afc championships... and won on the road while doing so...

also.. This season.. you lose your number 1 corner.... lose your number 1 wide out, dont have a running back to speak of (Greene is awful).. you wont be successful..

the Jets got bit by the injury bug.
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: 240 is Back on December 24, 2012, 11:14:29 AM
they had a D, a line, and a running game those years.   they're poor all over now.  sanchise will do great in Philly. 
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 24, 2012, 11:26:35 AM
All teams now know how to make the option(wildcat) a much tougher play to gain yards on when that's the QB's bread and butter... They are now trained to commit to the QB every single time and make him pitch the ball. To play the QB and not the ball. Which means that Tebow can't move the ball himself at all. When Tebow was with the Bronco's, teams weren't committing to Tebow and that allowed Tebow to fake a pitch and gain a lot of yards. Those day's are now over. The option play goes from a 50% success rate down to about 10% when you play the QB... And when you can't really throw the ball. Game Over! Also when the QB pitches the ball, the man covering the QB gets a free shot at the QB. So you wrap him up and drive him to the ground every time. Make him pay.
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: Red Hook on December 24, 2012, 12:57:20 PM
Tebow was a great college quarterback, but in the NFL you have to be an accurate passer in order to be successful long term.

Give the man his credit, he won a couple of games in Denver.  But look at his #s there, there is no way to sustain that over the course or season. 

NFL teams will just put 9 men in the box and dare him to throw.

Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: Option D on December 24, 2012, 01:17:12 PM
Tebow was a great college quarterback, but in the NFL you have to be an accurate passer in order to be successful long term.

Give the man his credit, he won a couple of games in Denver.  But look at his #s there, there is no way to sustain that over the course or season. 

NFL teams will just put 9 men in the box and dare him to throw.



Like the Pats did in the playoff ass whoopin they handed denver
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: wild willie on December 24, 2012, 01:21:40 PM
Tebow is a winner..... plain and simple.
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: G_Thang on December 24, 2012, 01:27:49 PM
send him to jacksonville and bring in june jones, give him a spread, something like warren moon worked in.  TT can't make the throw, because he can't do the classic drop, which gave moon problems also.  the touch and timing will come, once he is relaxed in a system.  denver was a fix job, not a system.  i'm not a fan, but he can QB a winning team, if the system is right.  
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: Red Hook on December 24, 2012, 01:30:42 PM
send him to jacksonville and bring in june jones, give him a spread, something like warren moon worked in.  TT can't make the throw, because he can't do the classic drop, which gave moon problems also.  the touch and timing will come, once he is relaxed in a system.  denver was a fix job, not a system.  i'm not a fan, but he can QB a winning team, if the system is right.  


The Jets are going to cut Tebow, Jacksonville knows this and so will not trade for him. 
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: 240 is Back on December 24, 2012, 02:12:34 PM
i just can't see any GM (aside from JAX which has nothing to lose and will probably be leaving town anyway) risking it all one one guy - a slow QB who can scramble.

If tebow plays full-time for 1 year, he will be dinged up beyond belief.  If he plays 3, he's injured and out of the league.

If he gets injured, the team has to completely change up the system for the new guy.

Finally, imagine the LOWlights each week, as we see Tebow miss 3 or 5 wide open passes every week.  Embarassing for team, frustrating to wide recievers that he continually hangs out to get smashed.  There are punters with more throwing accuracy than Tebow.  I like the winning, underdog thing... but if I'm an owner, the negatives are just too high. force him to throw and it's Pick City, every week.
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: MCWAY on December 24, 2012, 03:44:36 PM
i just can't see any GM (aside from JAX which has nothing to lose and will probably be leaving town anyway) risking it all one one guy - a slow QB who can scramble.

If tebow plays full-time for 1 year, he will be dinged up beyond belief.  If he plays 3, he's injured and out of the league.

If he gets injured, the team has to completely change up the system for the new guy.

Finally, imagine the LOWlights each week, as we see Tebow miss 3 or 5 wide open passes every week.  Embarassing for team, frustrating to wide recievers that he continually hangs out to get smashed.  There are punters with more throwing accuracy than Tebow.  I like the winning, underdog thing... but if I'm an owner, the negatives are just too high. force him to throw and it's Pick City, every week.

If Tebow puts butts in seats and the Jags become a decent team again, the owner probably isn't going anywhere. Tebow played 13 games in 2011 and seems to be just fine. He can deliver punishment as well as he can take it. Notice on some of his scrambles how some corners aren't all that eager to try and bring him down.

Ask the Vikings, Steelers, and Raiders where all those "lowlights" were, when Tebow went to work on them.

Now imagine if Tebow gets some big receivers who can catch (how many TDs or near TDs did Denaryius Thomas DROP, when Tebow hit him dead in the hands or between the 8s on his jersey?).

Give him some Vincent-Jackson-type guys and draft a back, as Jones-Drew will likely be gone. That will help him out big time.
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: G_Thang on December 24, 2012, 03:47:39 PM
i just can't see any GM (aside from JAX which has nothing to lose and will probably be leaving town anyway) risking it all one one guy - a slow QB who can scramble.

If tebow plays full-time for 1 year, he will be dinged up beyond belief.  If he plays 3, he's injured and out of the league.

If he gets injured, the team has to completely change up the system for the new guy.

Finally, imagine the LOWlights each week, as we see Tebow miss 3 or 5 wide open passes every week.  Embarassing for team, frustrating to wide recievers that he continually hangs out to get smashed.  There are punters with more throwing accuracy than Tebow.  I like the winning, underdog thing... but if I'm an owner, the negatives are just too high. force him to throw and it's Pick City, every week.

 ???

65% passer, so i'm not getting this.  the issue is, he can't drop back, set and pitch with accuracy, which was an issue for warren moon coming out of college.  hence, houston built a system for him, and the rest is potential hall of fame history.  june jones systems are similar to what he ran at florida.  take the shot or short snap and eliminate the 3-5 steps.  

as far as injury, RGIII, just as reckless but smaller, will be on IR before TT.

2006   Florida   SEC   FR   QB   22   33   66.7   358   10.8   12.5   5   1   201.7
2007   Florida   SEC   SO   QB   234   350   66.9   3286   9.4   10.4   32   6   172.5
2008   Florida   SEC   JR   QB   192   298   64.4   2746   9.2   10.6   30   4   172.4
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: ChopperRider on December 24, 2012, 04:30:49 PM
2 afc championships... and won on the road while doing so...

also.. This season.. you lose your number 1 corner.... lose your number 1 wide out, dont have a running back to speak of (Greene is awful).. you wont be successful..

the Jets got bit by the injury bug.

We shall see next year. Mark Sanchez is a slightly better version of Matt Leinart, nothing more.

Both will be NFL QB failures from the University of Spoiled Children.
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: The Scott on December 24, 2012, 04:53:29 PM
He is a better player than anyone here and the proof is in his having made it to the NFL.  The thing that seems to bother some people is that he wears his faith and wears it well.

That seems to wear them down.  Get over it. 
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: 240 is Back on December 24, 2012, 05:04:07 PM
i like the fact that he is bold in his beliefs and willing to take heat for what he believes in.
I like the fact that hs is a winner.  I like the fact that he's an underdog that has had an amazing run.

But I would never build a 100 mil dollar franchise around him.  Too one-sided in his game.  Pats can stop him, anyone can stop him now.  He's only good in the 4th Q when people play prevent defense.  He won't see prevent defense again.  He was terrible in his snaps with NYJ this year, terrible in practice according to teammates.  The only hope among his supporters is that he would somehow "bring it" in a game somehow.  He had snaps this year and looked awful.

Defenses know how to stop him now.  They did it all year.
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: MB on December 24, 2012, 05:46:59 PM
It wouldn't surprise me if he was out of the league within 2 years.  If Jacksonville doesn't take him, there will be zero interest from the rest of the league.  He's a great football player, but plays the wrong position. 
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: Option D on December 24, 2012, 05:49:34 PM
???

65% passer, so i'm not getting this.  the issue is, he can't drop back, set and pitch with accuracy, which was an issue for warren moon coming out of college.  hence, houston built a system for him, and the rest is potential hall of fame history.  june jones systems are similar to what he ran at florida.  take the shot or short snap and eliminate the 3-5 steps.  

as far as injury, RGIII, just as reckless but smaller, will be on IR before TT.

2006   Florida   SEC   FR   QB   22   33   66.7   358   10.8   12.5   5   1   201.7
2007   Florida   SEC   SO   QB   234   350   66.9   3286   9.4   10.4   32   6   172.5
2008   Florida   SEC   JR   QB   192   298   64.4   2746   9.2   10.6   30   4   172.4

No... the Fun and gun vs the Spread are very different...

And yeah he threw for 65% in college.. but ive seen a real game.. a real football game,,.. where he went 1-18 to start the game.. are you shittin me
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: 240 is Back on December 24, 2012, 06:00:42 PM
His response to any coach should be "I'm just happy to have a job - put me wherever you need me, coach!" and let the fans be the ones yelling that he should be at QB.  He'd get a nice pass or two surprise each game, like that steelers WR who is always tossing TD passes.  Find a nice niche like that.  Be one of those "TeeeeeBowwww" guys like Moose or Deuce that the crowd screams for every time.
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: G_Thang on December 25, 2012, 08:10:10 AM
No... the Fun and gun vs the Spread are very different...

And yeah he threw for 65% in college.. but ive seen a real game.. a real football game,,.. where he went 1-18 to start the game.. are you shittin me

 ;D

all i'm saying is, put in him a system fit for him over the next 2 years in jacksonville. maybe he isnt a 15-20 yd down field guy, but he can hit the 5-10 yd slants and outs, and screens.  on top of that, if the defense is spread, you give him  gaps to run and slide (RGIII and TT need to figure this part of the game out.).  he'd need a damn good RB, who can run draws and traps and catch 40 balls out the backfield.  i'd put money he put jacksonville back on the map.  if i was the owner, i'd snap him up for the stadium seats alone.  then, put a committee together and get the right offensive coordinator to give him 40-50 plays he can manage a game with.  

like i said, denver and ny were not built for him.

what doesn't jacksonville have to loose?  they are already a dog franchise.  it's a positive acquisition for them, no matter how you look at it.
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: NotSure on December 25, 2012, 08:58:34 AM
  He seems like a homosexual
tebow wins games, period.



After reading the comments and watching that video, i feel if Layne Norton were a quarterback it would look something like this.
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: Ronnie Rep on December 25, 2012, 09:19:51 AM
Tim Tebow is on his way to Jacksonville, doesn't matter that he is not a NFL Quarterback, he will still sell tickets. He is beloved there!
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: Hulkotron on December 25, 2012, 06:08:03 PM
No... the Fun and gun vs the Spread are very different...

And yeah he threw for 65% in college.. but ive seen a real game.. a real football game,,.. where he went 1-18 to start the game.. are you shittin me

His NFL career completion % is only 48% which is very bad.
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: MCWAY on December 25, 2012, 07:32:13 PM
His NFL career completion % is only 48% which is very bad.

Not with a greater than 2-1 TD-to-INT ratio and, most importantly, a WINNING RECORD.

I thought wins and losses were what mattered in NFL football, not style points.
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: MCWAY on December 25, 2012, 07:40:26 PM
;D

all i'm saying is, put in him a system fit for him over the next 2 years in jacksonville. maybe he isnt a 15-20 yd down field guy, but he can hit the 5-10 yd slants and outs, and screens.  on top of that, if the defense is spread, you give him  gaps to run and slide (RGIII and TT need to figure this part of the game out.).  he'd need a damn good RB, who can run draws and traps and catch 40 balls out the backfield.  i'd put money he put jacksonville back on the map.  if i was the owner, i'd snap him up for the stadium seats alone.  then, put a committee together and get the right offensive coordinator to give him 40-50 plays he can manage a game with.  

like i said, denver and ny were not built for him.

what doesn't jacksonville have to loose?  they are already a dog franchise.  it's a positive acquisition for them, no matter how you look at it.

Denver was built for him, so to speak. The issue was John Elway. He's a quarterback, who wants to see lots of yards and lots of points. Tebow was winning with what we Tampa Bay Bucs fans called "Dungy-ball": Low-scoring, lots of defense, keep it close in the 4th quarter, and pull off key big plays to seal the deal.

As Howie Long put it, Elway could have played it safe, kept Tebow, and have the Broncos be good. Or, he could take a risk with Manning and have a shot at the Broncos being great.

Back to Tebow, he can hit the big ones downfield. We saw that against Pittsburgh, also against Minnesota and Oakland. When Tebow scrambles out of the pocket, he isn't looking to dump it off. He's looking for the home-run play. That's partly why his completion percentage is low.

In that playoff game against Pittsburgh, he was 10 for 21. But, 5 of those 10 completions were for 30 yards or more (30, 40, 51, 58, and 80).
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: HockeyFightFan on December 25, 2012, 07:53:09 PM
Tim Tebow is the exceptional Christian athlete the "Quit and Comeback Coach" wishes he could have been.
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: andreisdaman on December 25, 2012, 07:58:23 PM
Denver was built for him, so to speak. The issue was John Elway. He's a quarterback, who wants to see lots of yards and lots of points. Tebow was winning with what we Tampa Bay Bucs fans called "Dungy-ball": Low-scoring, lots of defense, keep it close in the 4th quarter, and pull off key big plays to seal the deal.

As Howie Long put it, Elway could have played it safe, kept Tebow, and have the Broncos be good. Or, he could take a risk with Manning and have a shot at the Broncos being great.

Back to Tebow, he can hit the big ones downfield. We saw that against Pittsburgh, also against Minnesota and Oakland. When Tebow scrambles out of the pocket, he isn't looking to dump it off. He's looking for the home-run play. That's partly why his completion percentage is low.

In that playoff game against Pittsburgh, he was 10 for 21. But, 5 of those 10 completions were for 30 yards or more (30, 40, 51, 58, and 80).

I agree with you....Elway hated Tebow because he wasn't his idea of a big blay strong arm QB....I think the fact that Tebow was so successful with so littlew talent stuck in Elway's craw a little bit....but you hit it on the head essentially
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: Hulkotron on December 25, 2012, 08:06:31 PM
Not with a greater than 2-1 TD-to-INT ratio

He has 17 TDs and 9 INTs.  Perhaps basic math is not your strong suit.
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: 240 is Back on September 10, 2015, 10:57:22 PM
Bumped up - because it's very relevant to a current conversation and we keep referencing it.  *don't ban me mods :*


Tebow refused to play.  Some were saying this wasn't the case.
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: WOOO on September 11, 2015, 02:26:45 AM
Bumped up - because it's very relevant to a current conversation and we keep referencing it.  *don't ban me mods :*


Tebow refused to play.  Some were saying this wasn't the case.


Bodybuilding related?


Tebow is a fucking retard. Everything wrong with America in 5 letters.
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: Grape Ape on September 11, 2015, 03:42:35 AM
Tebow is a fucking retard. Everything wrong with America in 5 letters.

Yeah, not really though.
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: andreisdaman on September 11, 2015, 07:28:46 AM

Bodybuilding related?


Tebow is a fucking retard. Everything wrong with America in 5 letters.

why is that?..he obviously loves football which is why he keeps trying with different teams after being rejected so many times
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: 240 is Back on September 28, 2016, 10:16:06 AM
Tim Tebow hits home run on first pitch of first instructional league game

Just count it as another page in the storybook career of Tim Tebow.

Tebow, on the first pitch of his first organized game since his junior year of high school, hit a 91 mph fastball over the left-center wall for a home run. After circling the bases, Tebow was greeted at the plate by his New York Mets instructional league teammates, who had poured out of the dugout.

Tebow, a former Heisman Trophy winner and NFL quarterback, had quietly taken those teenagers out to dinner Monday and to a movie Tuesday after intrasquad games.

The crowd, announced by the Mets at 269, also erupted as Tebow connected and circled the bases.

The long ball came off 6-foot-5 left-hander John Kilichowski, who was drafted by the St. Louis Cardinals in the 11th round out of Vanderbilt University in June.
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 28, 2016, 10:18:10 AM
TIM TEBOW
HOME RUN IN FIRST AT BAT

http://www.tmz.com/2016/09/28/tim-tebow-home-run-on-first-at-bat-in-instructional-league-game/


Video
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: 240 is Back on September 28, 2016, 10:33:57 AM
It just goes to show - a player can wash out of the NFL for refusing to be a team player... and still find great initial success in minor league instructional play. 

Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: oldschoolfan on September 28, 2016, 10:37:37 AM
fuck tim tibow  hes a fucking fake,  he sucks cock

and is a prima donna, and hide behind his religion, tim couldnt wipe tom brady's ass well the patriots would hire him to do that, and wash tom's uniform
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 28, 2016, 10:38:39 AM
It just goes to show - a player can wash out of the NFL for refusing to be a team player... and still find great initial success in minor league instructional play. 



Good thing most find you to be delusional
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: 240 is Back on September 28, 2016, 10:42:08 AM
Good thing most find you to be delusional

what is factually inaccurate about the sentence I wrote?

Tebow washed out of the NFL after refusing to play the wildcat as the coach requested.  He found initial success in minor league baseball instructional play. 

These are accurate statements.
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 28, 2016, 10:55:03 AM
what is factually inaccurate about the sentence I wrote?

Tebow washed out of the NFL after refusing to play the wildcat as the coach requested.  He found initial success in minor league baseball instructional play. 

These are accurate statements.

We went over this (about a million times) I'm not going over it again.
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: 240 is Back on September 28, 2016, 11:44:23 AM
Tebow was mad they chose the other dude to start.  The coach asked him to play wildcat.  He refused. 

Yes we have been over this.  Everyone here knows your boy timmay was a horrible sport and put his own desires before he team.
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: oldschoolfan on September 28, 2016, 11:46:37 AM
 several people have said tim is a fake and not a team player unless it benefits him and his image i gotta agree  240 on this one
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: 240 is Back on September 28, 2016, 12:23:02 PM
Tim Tebow finally stood up for himself. After learning last week he wouldn’t start for the benched Mark Sanchez against the San Diego Chargers, he told his coaches not to put him in any Wildcat packages, according to a source.

Tim definitely put himself before the team goals here.

Refused to play where the coach wanted him - because he couldn't be the starter.  Imagine if Kapernick tried that shit - I wonder if coach would see that has heroic or the right thing to do?
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: Grape Ape on September 28, 2016, 12:39:50 PM
several people have said tim is a fake and not a team player unless it benefits him and his image i gotta agree  240 on this one

Several people, eh?

I've seen video of him spending time with disabled children before and after each football game.

This outweighs any perceived on field selfishness.
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: mazrim on September 28, 2016, 12:46:43 PM
Several people, eh?

I've seen video of him spending time with disabled children before and after each football game.

This outweighs any perceived on field selfishness.
Tebow is universally acknowledged as being who he says he is. Good guy without a doubt.
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: SquidVicious on September 28, 2016, 04:27:55 PM
Fact: Liberals despise Tim Tebow and mock him for his religious convictions.
Fact: Liberals tolerate Russell Wilson only because they're afraid to mock a black man.
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: Royalty on September 28, 2016, 05:57:50 PM
Good job by Tebow on the HR

But my God, I think that there were less than 30 people in the stands watching the game. I've seen more spectators at a little league game.
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: Irongrip400 on September 28, 2016, 06:11:33 PM
Tim definitely put himself before the team goals here.

Refused to play where the coach wanted him - because he couldn't be the starter.  Imagine if Kapernick tried that shit - I wonder if coach would see that has heroic or the right thing to do?

There is nothing wrong with leaving a job you're unhappy with. I don't see it as selfish or being a bad sport. Tim is an okay guy. I get though that you're mostly just trolling Coach.
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 28, 2016, 06:18:13 PM
There is nothing wrong with leaving a job you're unhappy with. I don't see it as selfish or being a bad sport. Tim is an okay guy. I get though that you're mostly just trolling Coach.

it's ok. When I explained how it was Tom House that screwed his career it went waaaaaaaaaaaaay over his head because he had no clue what I was talking about. He trolls me when I mention Seattle and he goes off on Carroll not realizing his Patriots are coached by the biggest cheater of all.
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: SF1900 on September 28, 2016, 06:23:55 PM
Is Tim Tebow playing football this year?
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: oldschoolfan on September 28, 2016, 06:52:01 PM
Is Tim Tebow playing football this year?

i dont think he is, now he is trying to become a major league player, 
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 28, 2016, 07:02:16 PM
i dont think he is, now he is trying to become a major league player, 

SF is trolling. Don't feed him.
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: SF1900 on September 28, 2016, 07:03:43 PM
i dont think he is, now he is trying to become a major league player,  

ahhhh, trying the Bo Jackson route?

Oldschoolfan, do you think Tim Tebow has the talent to play two professional sports?

(http://s1.thingpic.com/images/hw/nPwtgEtuSe4mnpeHHnCdgDR5.jpeg)
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: The Ugly on September 28, 2016, 07:07:09 PM
Fact: Liberals despise Tim Tebow and mock him for his religious convictions.
Fact: Liberals tolerate Russell Wilson only because they're afraid to mock a black man.

Fact: Tebow'll be called up as soon as he can hit the 2nd baseman.
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: 240 is Back on September 28, 2016, 07:34:38 PM
it's ok. When I explained how it was Tom House that screwed his career it went waaaaaaaaaaaaay over his head because he had no clue what I was talking about. He trolls me when I mention Seattle and he goes off on Carroll not realizing his Patriots are coached by the biggest cheater of all.

LOL!   Where did you get the impression that I like the Cheatiots?  I was the biggest hater on the deflategate thread.   Just like with politics, you have that black/white thing going on.  If you hate Seahwawks, then you must be a Pats fan?   LOL!
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: Powerlift66 on September 29, 2016, 01:26:05 AM
it's ok. When I explained how it was Tom House that screwed his career it went waaaaaaaaaaaaay over his head because he had no clue what I was talking about. He trolls me when I mention Seattle and he goes off on Carroll not realizing his Patriots are coached by the biggest cheater of all.

Coach, Im surprised you believe the liberal media on the cheating stuff. You do know what Spygate was, correct? All teams were video taping at field side. NFL sent letters to all saying not to do it, but it is still legal to do from press box. Cocky Bill sends his guy out there anyways, 1st game gets told on by Mangina, told not to do it anymore, Pats go 18-1.  Media blows the shit up because everyone hates the Pats (evil empire 'cause they win) and turn it into a libtard media scandal... Im surprised you buy into all that. The worst thing of all time is Bounty gate, trying to injure someone on purpose is retarded, people didnt make a big deal out of it 'cause the team doesnt win like the Pats do... Bill had nothing to do with Football pressure, which again, was a joke... (Equipment violations are a 10K fine or some shit normally)...
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: oldschoolfan on September 29, 2016, 02:34:32 AM
ahhhh, trying the Bo Jackson route?

Oldschoolfan, do you think Tim Tebow has the talent to play two professional sports?

(http://s1.thingpic.com/images/hw/nPwtgEtuSe4mnpeHHnCdgDR5.jpeg)

hey sf,  i would be shocked if he does, i think bo is the only one i can think of in recent memory , that was an all start in both, and  poor bo broke his hip.

i remember all those bo knows  commercials.      wait ? i know tim could try to become a mma fighter !


he could pull the cm punk rout.
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: SF1900 on September 29, 2016, 05:14:08 PM
hey sf,  i would be shocked if he does, i think bo is the only one i can think of in recent memory , that was an all start in both, and  poor bo broke his hip.

i remember all those bo knows  commercials.      wait ? i know tim could try to become a mma fighter !


he could pull the cm punk rout.

Tim Tebow could be an NFL/MLB/MMA athlete.
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: oldschoolfan on September 29, 2016, 05:22:42 PM
Tim Tebow could be an NFL/MLB/MMA athlete.


yes ! and  and gay porn star to ,   his slogan would be "he might blow a few but he wont choke on the big ones "
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: TuHolmes on September 29, 2016, 08:25:08 PM
hey sf,  i would be shocked if he does, i think bo is the only one i can think of in recent memory , that was an all start in both, and  poor bo broke his hip.

i remember all those bo knows  commercials.      wait ? i know tim could try to become a mma fighter !


he could pull the cm punk rout.

Deion Sanders

Bo did it the best though.
Title: Re: Tim Tebow refuses to play on Sunday- Too Muscular to be accurate?
Post by: Pete Nice on September 29, 2016, 08:57:15 PM
Brian Jordan played two sports as well.  St. Louis Cardinals and the Atlanta Falcons.