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Look how small he looks in this video, it makes Will Brink look big;
Layne Norton has diet and training literally down to a science yet this is the limit he has been able to achieve. I sometimes ask myself is all this effort and thought really worth it, maybe I should just half ass training and diet because the results don't seem to be that different.
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layne is legit he can get down to 130 if he wants or 240 if he feels like it i think he has the most talent at 150
(http://www.stars-portraits.com/img/portraits/stars/l/layne-staley/layne-staley-by-silenthero1.jpg)
notice zits on upper area of the mouth to the right from too much whey protien and not enough beans and rice for metabolic harmony (http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4105/5016580924_3b0926dd3c_z.jpg)
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more layne
(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/041/9/3/layne_staley_by_eskarine-d398twd.png)
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Johnny I sense that you feel a connection with layne and see him as a role model for what you could possible attain naturally.
You had to use cell tech to get to Laynes size last time lol.
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Johnny I sense that you feel a connection with layne and see him as a role model for what you could possible attain naturally.
You had to use cell tech to get to Laynes size last time lol.
me and layne were bitter rivals in the days i was trolling avantlabs and wanna be huge forums i think it was called. i remember starving when he was eating like 4000 calories on a "diet". i always felt like i owned the guy cause he was a shorty but reality is he was doing it the right way by not really dieting but pushing your training to a point where you dont have to diet because your workouts exceede calorie consumption on "high calories"
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layne has always been natural, he looks smaller here because the heme iron is causing osteoperosis, causing his bone mass to be less dense, heme-iron /consuming meat all your life isnt exactly a bright thing to do
eventually someone wakes up and realizes "hey i shouldnt be eating that "being" with a spinal cord, a rib cage, two eyes and a mouth, perhaps that isnt the smartest thing"
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layne has always been natural, he looks smaller here because the heme iron is causing osteoperosis, causing his bone mass to be less dense, heme-iron /consuming meat all your life isnt exactly a bright thing to do
eventually someone wakes up and realizes "hey i shouldnt be eating that "being" with a spinal cord, a rib cage, two eyes and a mouth, perhaps that isnt the smartest thing"
What a load of shit. He's a drug user like the rest. He tries to make out he's some rocket scientist with epic body/muscle/diet harmony bullshit, when really he's just another PED using scumbag.
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What a load of shit. He's a drug user like the rest. He tries to make out he's some rocket scientist with epic body/muscle/diet harmony bullshit, when really he's just another PED using scumbag.
he doesnt look that big however the the weights he uses on squats make me think hes on drugs
i have had some points where i looked fuckin huge and ripped but was never that strong on squats or deads, my best dead was 500 my best squat was maybe 275 full squat for 10 and 315 squat parallel for like 3 yet my quads looked bigger than his
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he doesnt look that big however the the weights he uses on squats make me think hes on drugs
i have had some points where i looked fuckin huge and ripped but was never that strong on squats or deads, my best dead was 500 my best squat was maybe 275 full squat for 10 and 315 squat parallel for like 3 yet my quads looked bigger than his
what was your best bench?
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he doesnt look that big however the the weights he uses on squats make me think hes on drugs
i have had some points where i looked fuckin huge and ripped but was never that strong on squats or deads, my best dead was 500 my best squat was maybe 275 full squat for 10 and 315 squat parallel for like 3 yet my quads looked bigger than his
Guy is/was using, end of story in my mind. If you think otherwise, then your a gullible fool.
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what was your best bench?
i did 365 for 2 but with bouncing arch back form i think i did 315 for 3 on bench, my squat and bench were pretty much the same
my barbell curl was insane i could do 185 for 10 reps atleast i cant remember exactly i could cheat curl 225 for 3 reps i could curl 135 for about 20 but can remember exactly
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Guy is/was using, end of story in my mind. If you think otherwise, then your a gullible fool.
like i said anyone squatting 600 pounds natural is probably using something
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my barbell curl was insane i could do 185 for 10 reps atleast i cant remember exactly i could cheat curl 225 for 3 reps i could curl 135 for about 20 but can remember exactly
damn! that is strong :o :o :o
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damn! that is strong :o :o :o
right now i can curl 135 for 10 :'(
im hoping with the whey i can get back to 185 for 10 but id be happy with 185 for 5
im not sure if ill ever be as strong without heme iron but it would be interesting to see how close i can get to my best
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Natural eh? LOL!!!!!!!
(http://s1.postimage.org/fyymhrfrj/layne_05_3.jpg)
(http://s2.postimage.org/6v83xqfzd/layne_05_4.jpg)
(http://s7.postimage.org/eauyc722j/layne_05_7.jpg)
(http://s7.postimage.org/3ql0tlxkr/weik75c.jpg)
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Natural eh? LOL!!!!!!!
(http://s1.postimage.org/fyymhrfrj/layne_05_3.jpg)
(http://s2.postimage.org/6v83xqfzd/layne_05_4.jpg)
(http://s7.postimage.org/eauyc722j/layne_05_7.jpg)
(http://s7.postimage.org/3ql0tlxkr/weik75c.jpg)
i was close to that but got involved with weede, that meant i could never keep a diet because of the munchies, i had near that mass but could never dial in because i smoked too much weed
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he's supposedly a natty as well
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Natural eh? LOL!!!!!!!
Very natural having huge veins running down the biceps.
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Lol, most twinks and wannabees gotta have an excuse for their crappy physiques.
Saying, " It has to be drugs" makes 'em feel better I guess.
If a guy builds a decent body without drugs, they must feel even more inadequate.
Pretty sad and pathetic.
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he's supposedly a natty as well
Youre the douche who idolizes these bullshitters.
You post his vid, looking to be the funny guy .....but you have encyclopaedic knowledge of these guys ,and the way they train, and have watched every one of their vids 25 times, tell me I'm lying ;)
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Relies on peptides and bro-science
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nah, comeon, man.
nobidys saying theyre on loads of drugs.
i would have no idea how i could come anywhere near close to that naturaly, and its not like i lack dedication.
exactly....I'm not exactly on the short end of the stick genetically myself, and i can't do that naturally...and I'll bet i have better base genetics than both those fucking guys
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i was close to that but got involved with weede, that meant i could never keep a diet because of the munchies, i had near that mass but could never dial in because i smoked too much weed
Pics when you were close to this natty.
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layne has always been natural, he looks smaller here because the heme iron is causing osteoperosis, causing his bone mass to be less dense, heme-iron /consuming meat all your life isnt exactly a bright thing to do
eventually someone wakes up and realizes "hey i shouldnt be eating that "being" with a spinal cord, a rib cage, two eyes and a mouth, perhaps that isnt the smartest thing"
so invertebrates are fine to eat then?
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Youre the douche who idolizes these bullshitters.
You post his vid, looking to be the funny guy .....but you have encyclopaedic knowledge of these guys ,and the way they train, and have watched every one of their vids 25 times, tell me I'm lying ;)
This is me back in 1988 at the Jr USA prejudging and I had been off all drugs for a yr at this point.
I had used small cycles of winnie V or decca , during the previous 3 yrs, then said fuk it and went off.
Ok I wasn't 100% lifetime natural , but I didn't use any drugs to prepare for this show.
In all modesty, I have pretty good genetics and had wide shoulders and big calfs before I touched a wt.
My point here is that all drugs do is enhance what you have to work with , no more , no less.
The better natural pros are genetic freaks , just like the IFBB pros.
If you have the genetic talent, train and diet , you can build decent muscle size with/without drugs.
The avg gym rat is never going to look as good as a top natural pro , even on a drug cycle.
For example, I love running 5k/10k races but I will always suck as a distance runner.
My bodytype is NOT geared for endurace sports, no matter what training, diet or drugs I used.
The bodybuilding / fittness/diet industry is filed with countless products that make incredible claims.
I'm a baseball fan and suck at baseball. I sit back and enjoy watching MLB players do what I never could.
I was a decent regional bodybuilder in my prime. BUT, I was never going to look like Jay or Dexter , no matter what drugs I took.
I'm happy and content with my place and don't need to judge better bodybuilders then me, based on rumors or myths.
Pump on get big bros, pump on.
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This is me back in 1988 at the Jr USA prejudging and I had been off all drugs for a yr at this point.
I had used small cycles of winnie V or decca , during the previous 3 yrs, then said fuk it and went off.
Ok I wasn't 100% lifetime natural , but I didn't use any drugs to prepare for this show.
In all modesty, I have pretty good genetics and had wide shoulders and big calfs before I touched a wt.
My point here is that all drugs do is enhance what you have to work with , no more , no less.
The better natural pros are genetic freaks , just like the IFBB pros.
If you have the genetic talent, train and diet , you can build decent muscle size with/without drugs.
The avg gym rat is never going to look as good as a top natural pro , even on a drug cycle.
For example, I love running 5k/10k races but I will always suck as a distance runner.
My bodytype is NOT geared for endurace sports, no matter what training, diet or drugs I used.
The bodybuilding / fitness/diet industry is filed with countless products that make incredible claims.
I'm a baseball fan and suck at baseball. I sit back and enjoy watching MLB players do what I never could.
I was a decent regional bodybuilder in my prime. BUT, I was never going to look like Jay or Dexter , no matter what drugs I took.
I'm happy and content with my place and don't need to judge better bodybuilders then me, based on rumors or myths.
Pump on get big bros, pump on.
Good physique, but it was built with drugs. Just like liar norton.
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I think Layne is natural.
Jeff Willet not so much.
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A whole year off whoah man you are like the most natural guy ever.
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PED
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Lol @ your post! Howie instead of validates Liar Norton's bullshit status actually damns him.
This is me back in 1988 at the Jr USA prejudging and I had been off all drugs for a yr at this point.
I had used small cycles of winnie V or decca , during the previous 3 yrs, then said fuk it and went off.
Ok I wasn't 100% lifetime natural , but I didn't use any drugs to prepare for this show.
In all modesty, I have pretty good genetics and had wide shoulders and big calfs before I touched a wt.
My point here is that all drugs do is enhance what you have to work with , no more , no less.
The better natural pros are genetic freaks , just like the IFBB pros.
If you have the genetic talent, train and diet , you can build decent muscle size with/without drugs.
The avg gym rat is never going to look as good as a top natural pro , even on a drug cycle.
For example, I love running 5k/10k races but I will always suck as a distance runner.
My bodytype is NOT geared for endurace sports, no matter what training, diet or drugs I used.
The bodybuilding / fitness/diet industry is filed with countless products that make incredible claims.
I'm a baseball fan and suck at baseball. I sit back and enjoy watching MLB players do what I never could.
I was a decent regional bodybuilder in my prime. BUT, I was never going to look like Jay or Dexter , no matter what drugs I took.
I'm happy and content with my place and don't need to judge better bodybuilders then me, based on rumors or myths.
Pump on get big bros, pump on.
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Guy is/was using, end of story in my mind. If you think otherwise, then your a gullible fool.
big difference between is/was, sir.
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big difference between is/was, sir.
There's also a difference between night/day. One is light, the other dark.
Hope this helps.
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There's also a difference between night/day. One is light, the other dark.
Hope this helps.
thanks for the help :-\
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dj181 still believes these guys deep inside and hopes the results will come along some day, it just takes time.
lol
i know you guys like to talk this macho bullshit where every training method supposedly works, but that's complete and utter bullshit, and you know it
i'm not the best model to prove that certain training theories are better than others coz my genetics suckass not to mention the fact that i have certain beliefs/ideas that stifle me and hold me back
one of these beliefs/ideas is to not train legs so hard coz i don't want them to get too big and get out of proportion with my upper body, as it's all about aesthetics for me
but just recently i've kinda gotten over this huge legs fear of mine and i've been training squats pretty hard and i've made some pretty damn good improvements there :)
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Would you do this to yourself just to get a body like Layne? Lol.
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i have certain beliefs/ideas that stifle me and hold me back
the only idea which holds you back is the belief in "hard training"...
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the only idea which holds you back is the belief in "hard training"...
what do you mean?
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what do you mean?
you can't will yourself into spectacular shape.
people love praising virtues like "hard work" and "dedication"... in reality it's not very hard to reach a "natural peak".
proof the apostles were bodybuilders: "the spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak."
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yes same here, ppl think i got very good genetics for this stuff, even 2 pros said that to me, and its not like i havent tried really hard naturally.
a decade of training under the belt and if i diet down to that level of bodyfat, what remains is a twink.
maybe hes on bit gh and fatburners and bit something like primo.
his full cheek while lean also are suspicious.
fuck i tend to have full cheek, but when going lower than say 8% naturaly, the face starts looking dead.
the gullible naturals should not be lied to anymore imo.
Their faces while being lean might be the final give-away's idd. I look like an emaciated skeletor long before I even reach 8% and it can't be like that only for myself.
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as natural as taking a penis in the mouth
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lol
i know you guys like to talk this macho bullshit where every training method supposedly works, but that's complete and utter bullshit, and you know it
i'm not the best model to prove that certain training theories are better than others coz my genetics suckass not to mention the fact that i have certain beliefs/ideas that stifle me and hold me back
one of these beliefs/ideas is to not train legs so hard coz i don't want them to get too big and get out of proportion with my upper body, as it's all about aesthetics for me
but just recently i've kinda gotten over this huge legs fear of mine and i've been training squats pretty hard and i've made some pretty damn good improvements there :)
Oh you poor thing, i know...with your crazy genetics and proportion, your quads would be hanging off the bone like a thoroughbred if you didn't reel them in. I would be scared too if i was lucky enough to be blessed with those insane muscle building genetics....i mean you're a whole 160 pounds......holy shit!!!!!! :o
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I don't even train legs anymore.
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I don't even train legs anymore.
me2, those two days im at the beach in a year i wear pants
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gayne norton
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Despite his phisique or phiscal accomplishment or whether or not he is on gear.
Besides all that he is a fucking revolting cumstain of a man.
Easily in the top 5 most punchable faces on the internet.
Bloke wouldnt have had a fraction of the shit he catches if he wasnt such an arrogant prick
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Good physique, but it was built with drugs. Just like liar norton.
Thanks and I always take that as a compliment ;).
Think about it for a minute, in my case.
I'm not trying to sell you anything and don't work in any aspect of the bodybuilding or fitness industry.
My prime bodybuilding days are in the rear view mirror and I never went pro or had a BB "career".
One of my greatest pleasures was to compete in regional NPC shows that were not tested.
I'd hear directly from guys I competed with ,about what drug cycles they were on.
I got a kick out of beating a lot of 'em when I used little or NO drugs at all.
It was a real kick ass feeling to be the only drug free guy in the top 3 at a decent sized NPC show.
In all modesty, the fact that many refuse to believe I did it without drugs ( pic), is a bigger compliment then you know.
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Very interesting vid, thanks for sharing. Layne's a great guy who works his ass off.
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grow to the show = drugs
it's real simple, guys
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Very natural having huge veins running down the biceps.
Haha - exactly. Can't hate on Layne anymore though... I'm pretty happy that there are people like him around who keep a retarded circus going.
Why "fight" mental illness when it is good for a few laughs and therefor overall health.
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veins dont mean drugs, he has low bodyfat...strong for his size...good incline
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if you follow Layne at all, and still believe that he's lying through his teeth about being natural then it says something about you rather than Layne. A very basic human trait is the ability to trust someone and gauge their character.
If you are so sure he isn't natural then put your money where your mouth is and challenge him to take a test ::)
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veins dont mean drugs, he has low bodyfat...strong for his size...good incline
i agree.
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i agree.
so you think that willet's a natty?
and what about this guy?
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so you think that willet's a natty?
and what about this guy?
hard to tell from a picture, 100X easier when you see them in person, thickness and size are hard to tell from pic. he might be as thin as a pop tart for all i know. that level of muscularity however is possible without drugs though ftw
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Veins mean nothing! I have always had and still have big veins in my arms, even when I am fat!
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if I see someone working out in the gym and there are not veins running down his arms, he is too fat. doesnt mean drugs...
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if I see someone working out in the gym and there are not veins running down his arms, he is too fat. doesnt mean drugs...
Basic truth, right there.
What amazes me is why so many guys on here seem obsessed about who uses what drugs.
The only thing we can really gauge is a guys physique and strength.
Plus, I crack up over how any guy with decent size and/or power must be juiced to the gills.
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people who have been here for a while and still can't connect the dots are hopeless idiots
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layne has always been natural, he looks smaller here because the heme iron is causing osteoperosis, causing his bone mass to be less dense, heme-iron /consuming meat all your life isnt exactly a bright thing to do
eventually someone wakes up and realizes "hey i shouldnt be eating that "being" with a spinal cord, a rib cage, two eyes and a mouth, perhaps that isnt the smartest thing"
So he just heme loads prior to shows?
C'mon man.
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Yep he's so small he makes Phil Heath look wide ;)
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Layne can do what he please...he's like the mighty Honey Badger !
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why not?
makes the whole rest kinda pointless too, no?
i mean, the legs mustnt be huge, but bit of ass and well cut quads and some swing in the hamstrings is apreciated by women.
i have never seen a woman saying wow look this gut looks so good with huge upper body but stick legs.
my legs have a reasonable amount of muscle on them with no direct weight training, because I'm natural it would be very difficult to get an upper body that would look stupidly out of proportion anyway. If I was juiced to the gills then yea I would make an effort to train legs.
I trained my calves for a year solidly and didn't gain an inch on them, calves are all genetics.
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Would you do this to yourself just to get a body like Layne? Lol.
thats insane diddnt know he was that strong
i beleive layne takes alot of different legal things that give him an edge of 2 percent here 3 percent there,,,
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Basic truth, right there.
What amazes me is why so many guys on here seem obsessed about who uses what drugs.
The only thing we can really gauge is a guys physique and strength.
Plus, I crack up over how any guy with decent size and/or power must be juiced to the gills.
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these are the people who clearly never accomplished shit in their 'quest' for muscularity.
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In all modesty, the fact that many refuse to believe I did it without drugs ( pic), is a bigger compliment then you know.
This right here shows the delusion at work. Howard used drugs but still believes he built that physique without them.
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Basic truth, right there.
What amazes me is why so many guys on here seem obsessed about who uses what drugs.
The only thing we can really gauge is a guys physique and strength.
Plus, I crack up over how any guy with decent size and/or power must be juiced to the gills.
Very true
Makes me laugh
Then think... Pitiful
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easy answer here...
in the BB comp pics Layne is obviously on.
in these videos hes not.
there you go.