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You wont get many 'yes' answers mate, bodybuilders cant fight.
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I d like to see this clown do the same stupid coregraphied shit with a dude twice bigger, heavier than him. I hope he can sucker punch someone efficiently real quick, cause that would be the only chance he d get to win the fight against someone heavier than him.
There is a reason why small men used their brains / intelligence to create firearms; so they could protect themselves from the bigger dude who would rape them otehrwise if they didnt carry a gun.
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I d like to see this clown do the same stupid coregraphied shit with a dude twice bigger, heavier than him. I hope he can sucker punch someone efficiently real quick, cause that would be the only chance he d get to win the fight.
yeah it's weird to me these martial arts look so fancy
but when you look at real fights
they are so wild
it's most likely impossible to use any of this kung fu
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yeah it's weird to me these martial arts look so fancy
but when you look at real fights
they are so wild
it's most likely impossible to use any of this kung fu
If you dont have a gun, you dont win a fight against someone bigger than you who knows how to fight, wathever your amount of fighting skills. The bigger dude simply bearhug you, sits on you and it's over.
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If you dont have a gun, you dont win a fight against someone bigger than you who knows how to fight, wathever your amount of fighting skills. The bigger dude simply bearhug you, sits on you and it's over.
i think personally ronnie coleman in his prime could defeat royce gracie
but peopel say i'm crazy
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I'm going to go ahead & say quite confidently yes... Yes I can beat him.
i think personally ronnie coleman in his prime could defeat royce gracie
but peopel say i'm crazy
You are crazy, Ron would get smashed in under 30sec IMO. Strength/size is only relative if you know how to use it. Which Ron does not.
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He tried that shit for real in a bar full of bikers. They put him in the ICU on LS.
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He tried that shit for real in a bar full of bikers. They put him in the ICU on LS.
joke or real?
i heard he is crazy so maybe real
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I'm going to go ahead & say quite confidently yes... Yes I can beat him.
You are crazy, Ron would get smashed in under 30sec IMO. Strength/size is only relative if you know how to use it. Which Ron does not.
but ronnie is a badass black man and a leo
surely he knows how to grab somebody with his gorilla paws and smash him to potato
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I've been thinking how the fuck do you fight against a guy like Big Show. You don't. These martial artists who boast about how they could beat anyone regardless of size are full of shit. There's just no way a regular size man could defeat someone like this with technique.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c52/FlangMasterJ/34a90ac0.jpg)
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I've been thinking how the fuck do you fight against a guy like Big Show. You don't. These martial artists who boast about how they could beat anyone regardless of size are full of shit. There's just no way a regular size man could defeat someone like this with technique.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c52/FlangMasterJ/34a90ac0.jpg)
like the video i posted, these guys only train with twinks that dont fight back
so what happens when they go up against a monster that does fight back
will their kung fu save them
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It doesn't matter if you know martial arts or are as big as a bear, the coolest man in the world Chow Yun Fat will gun you down and blow you up in a heartbeat. :-*
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Simple and effective.
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No one could defeat this man.
NO ONE.
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this black man would knock ronnie the fuck out in less than 30 seconds
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this black man would knock ronnie the fuck out in less than 30 seconds
Ronnie would run up to him, grab his scrawny body and proceed to snap his spine in two.
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Ronnie would run up to him, grab hs scrawny body and proceed to snap his spine in two.
lol
sure thing man, sure thing lol
ronnie get stunned by 3 or 4 lightening fast jabs and then get a hook or upper cut and then be knocked the fuck out
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lol
sure thing man, sure thing lol
ronnie get stunned by 3 or 4 lightening fast jabs and then get a hook or upper cut and then be knocked the fuck out
Hey, Ronnie's strong as hell and he's faster than you think. I don't think he would let the boxer (great as he is) get at him that easily.
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He told it to a kid I used to train.
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I've been thinking how the fuck do you fight against a guy like Big Show. You don't. These martial artists who boast about how they could beat anyone regardless of size are full of shit. There's just no way a regular size man could defeat someone like this with technique.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c52/FlangMasterJ/34a90ac0.jpg)
Clearly, you've never been in a fight if you think size is all that matters, so best not comment.
Fact: A regular sized, hell even skinny guy that knew how to fight would smash that fat head in seconds.
but ronnie is a badass black man and a leo
surely he knows how to grab somebody with his gorilla paws and smash him to potato
Ha ha ha... Ha ha ha ha ha... HA HA HA HA HA HA HA H HAA HAHAH.... grabbing someone who knows how to fight, is going to get your arm broken.
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You wont get many 'yes' answers mate, bodybuilders cant fight.
Are you fucken stupid? everyone will say 'yes' you will get millions of 'yes' answers stupid, wether they are lying or not, they will still say yes you idiot. Of course bodybuilders make the worst fighters and this guy would fuck 99% of them up but they would still answer 'yes'.
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Pretty obvious you know nothing about fighting. I am a big guy myself, but a small guy with the "right skills" can disable a big man (without those skills) easily.
I d like to see this clown do the same stupid coregraphied shit with a dude twice bigger, heavier than him. I hope he can sucker punch someone efficiently real quick, cause that would be the only chance he d get to win the fight against someone heavier than him.
There is a reason why small men used their brains / intelligence to create firearms; so they could protect themselves from the bigger dude who would rape them otehrwise if they didnt carry a gun.
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PAUL VUNAK,,,, yeah he could fuck some people up pretty bad in the street. I met paul at a camp in 1996 in chi-Town and the man was coked out of his mind. His whole seminar consisted of biting , headbutting and elbows. Definitely not worth the $300 for 2 hours back then, but he was a wild mofo to say the least. Would i fight him, yeah with a car as he was leaving the place,, he is burnt pretty bad and has serial killer instincts, like kill then fuck or fuck the kill you,, sick puppy.
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Go to 33 second mark, dude is out there
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Paul Vunak could easily dismantle Big Show
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Go to 33 second mark, dude is out there
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Did he just say Kuckoy Kenyetheh ??
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Pretty obvious you know nothing about fighting. I am a big guy myself, but a small guy with the "right skills" can disable a big man (without those skills) easily.
lol, you re probably a fat guy who has no fighting skills and is scared shitless of everyone, as simple as that, "bad boy" "dazza".
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You defeat them with straight punches down the pipe.
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Of course being big has advantages but you cant build muscle over your eyes and some vital points. speed, co ordination, stamina and technique.
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One thing I never understood about these jkd people - they seem to really love saying things like "So you flow from one to the other - if he's here, you use savate, if he's a little closer you go with your kali, if he's mid range you might switch to boxing...."
I watch it all and think - blah blah blah - you're just throwing a combination. Why make such a big deal about it?
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One thing I never understood about these jkd people - they seem to really love saying things like "So you flow from one to the other - if he's here, you use savate, if he's a little closer you go with your kali, if he's mid range you might switch to boxing...."
I watch it all and think - blah blah blah - you're just throwing a combination. Why make such a big deal about it?
They're promoting their art and style of JKD of course, to get more students.
Is it that hard to comprehend?
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the guy is good.
To say the least. Any Getbigger would get killed going up against this guy. Named "one of the toughest men on planet Earth" by Black Belt Magazine, Paul Vunak is internationally recognized as a major innovator in modern martial arts. A black belt in Tae Kwon Do at age 14, Paul studied Kenpo and Hung Gar (Tiger Crane) Kung Fu, before discovering Bruce Lee's Jeet Kune Do. A student of the legendary Dan Inosanto, Paul founded Progressive Fighting Systems (PFS) in 1983 and embarked on a career as a teacher of realistic fighting technique. Paul's fame as a teacher quickly spread throughout the martial arts world and he was soon commissioned to teach his techniques to US Navy SEAL teams. Since then he has helped train the FBI, the DEA, and more than fifty US police departments.
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i bet some ppl who "engage"into mma by wearing a tshirt and have taken a beginners course in grappling think they could take him.haha
LOL, they would stand a better chance against a hurricane.
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To say the least. Any Getbigger would get killed going up against this guy. Named "one of the toughest men on planet Earth" by Black Belt Magazine, Paul Vunak is internationally recognized as a major innovator in modern martial arts. A black belt in Tae Kwon Do at age 14, Paul studied Kenpo and Hung Gar (Tiger Crane) Kung Fu, before discovering Bruce Lee's Jeet Kune Do. A student of the legendary Dan Inosanto, Paul founded Progressive Fighting Systems (PFS) in 1983 and embarked on a career as a teacher of realistic fighting technique. Paul's fame as a teacher quickly spread throughout the martial arts world and he was soon commissioned to teach his techniques to US Navy SEAL teams. Since then he has helped train the FBI, the DEA, and more than fifty US police departments.
Hahaha
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yeah he seems pretty crazy and highly skilled
but part of me doesnt want to believe in martial arts
so i am conflicted on the matter
i will ponder on this some more from my armchair
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Hahaha
Are you saying "jon" forgot to link a youtube video of this savage fighting since they're too many to choose from?
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One thing I never understood about these jkd people - they seem to really love saying things like "So you flow from one to the other - if he's here, you use savate, if he's a little closer you go with your kali, if he's mid range you might switch to boxing...."
I watch it all and think - blah blah blah - you're just throwing a combination. Why make such a big deal about it?
to make it look more brilliant and intelligent than just physical skills that will take years of robotic repetition to master
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I trained a kid, who was a good athlete to start, in MMA... he had come from Vunak and those JKD he said Vunak told him that he got put in the ICU from a deadly beat down at a bar full of bikers and that he was done trying to use that shit in real life
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I trained a kid who was a good athlete to start, in MMA he had come from Vunak and those JKD he said Vunak told him that he got put in the ICU from a deadly beat down at a bar full of bikers and that he was done trying to use that shit in real life
How is one man to take on a bar full of bikers by himself? That's just not right.
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He went with a group of his students they all got put in the ICU and one or two died
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http://vimeo.com/42048519 .
Not sure how to imbed, but Vunak has gotten into bad shape the last few years. Rumor has it that he parties way too much.
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He always did a lot of uppers. Coke, Speed, etc.,
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He always did a lot of uppers. Coke, Speed, etc.,
Yeah, in that video he's got the meth look and personality going on.
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http://vimeo.com/42048519 .
Not sure how to imbed, but Vunak has gotten into bad shape the last few years. Rumor has it that he parties way too much.
Jesus Christ, he looks like a corpse.
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Poor guy
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at least hes not a disgusting fat falcon master
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I could... but I would get NO pleasure from hurting Vunak.
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I could... but I would get NO pleasure from hurting Vunak.
Who would you get pleasure from hurting? Obama? Big Gyp? The head of Bulgaria's Turkish minority party?
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He went with a group of his students they all got put in the ICU and one or two died
crazy, when people can no longer distinguish martial arts from reality
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crazy, when people can no longer distinguish martial arts from reality
It's easy to do in a bubble, where fighting is essentially choreographed and no one ever experiences real pain.
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crazy, when people can no longer distinguish martial arts from reality
Aren't the martial arts meant to equip you for reality? That's the whole point of training, isn't it?
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Aren't the martial arts meant to equip you for reality? That's the whole point of training, isn't it?
i'm not sure
martial arts make people more disconnected from reality than an average person with common sense
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Aren't the martial arts meant to equip you for reality? That's the whole point of training, isn't it?
well they are really to train you AND your mind.. sharpen your reactions. Thing is your born Nasty or you aint.. you have to have the heart to fight too. sure training a couple of times a week is great but you know yourself reality is another thing. I learned Aikido for years but it was to learn the traditional background and i enjoyed it, outside i would never do it. Jeet kune do and Kali are better for outside and wing chun (ving tsun)..
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i'm not sure
martial arts make people more disconnected from reality than an average person with common sense
But these days there are so many reality-based fighting arts around like Krav Maga and Vee Arnis Jitsu. They're adaptations of the traditional martial arts. Surely these equip the student for the street?
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Aren't the martial arts meant to equip you for reality? That's the whole point of training, isn't it?
martial arts were developed by poor peasants with few or no weapons in asian countries... just like box was developed by their equivalent in western societies; basically you dont have the money to afford a weapon, still you might face adversity in your everyday life, so you develop fighting skills. It all depends of the reality you re living in.
Some people avoid any kind of physical violence just using their brains to subdue or submit themselves to threatening individuals who are struggling to survive/ fight for the same ressources. Some use fists, feet, some use knives, some use guns, etc. I believe that in all these situations, nothing beats a handgun or rifle, which have a double use; you can also hunt food with them. I dont believe in fist fights prolly cause im small , i prefer to defend myself using my brains. But i can understand someone bigger than me would instead use his fists instead of his brains to insure his own survival. Still, violence only happens when people fail to find a compromise that would allow both of them to survive by cooperating, using their brains. Then there is a need for physical violence or for weapon use. Ideally one would be skilled at fighting with fists, kicks, but also with weapons, as you re not going to do shit with your kung fu facing more than one or two oponent, and you better be an expert if you hope to at least defeat one. Is there a need to talk about facing one or several opponents carrying weapons when you dont ?
The best option is always to avoid threats with your intelligence, and to rise socially , dominate others using your brain and work. This is what most religions encourage to do; rise becoming smarter than everyone else.
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But these days there are so many reality-based fighting arts around like Krav Maga and Vee Arnis Jitsu. They're adaptations of the traditional martial arts. Surely these equip the student for the street?
your weight, height and many others factors still are important; a 100 lbs martial expert isnt going to win a fight against someone three times bigger with our without fighting skills.
There are many small people pretending to be martial experts, who could make no use of their knowleges simply because they are too small to do any damage with them.. remember napoleon dynamite scene ? They pretend to be killers, but in fact they never ever use their so called skills, and simply use their brains to avoid being in conflict with bigger people . Delusional clowns basically. Paper tough guys. They can be admired by people smaller or as small as them buying into their bullshits, but sooner or later they will realize their mentors simply avoid any serious conflict with bigger guys cause they know they d get smashed, and only pick on smaller people than them.
Let's not forget martial arts might be a game changer between two small short skinny asians fighting for a bowl of rice, but when skinny asian fights against a 300LBS 7 feet tall irishman, well... Not sure about the outcome for the skinny asian.
Wasnt bruce lee in awe of the big muscular white males in north america? i remeber reading how admirative he was, how he decided to bodybuild etc once he discovered america. Fact is he knew he couldnt do shit against a big american dude whatever his level of skill or quickness.
Big heavy people sometimes get their asses handed to them by smaller people, that's for sure...but 9 times out of 10 bigger people reduce smaller people into a pulp. The small guy beating the bigger guy is the exception that confirms the rule, not the opposite.
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uberman enlighten us to your "practical" experience in a Dojo or on the street...
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uberman enlighten us to your "practical" experience in a Dojo or on the street...
the fact i own two rifles and carry a knife most of the time i go out should tell you all you need to know about it.
Spending hours a week to train to become a " martial expert" isnt just worth it, especially when you re small; it wont prevent you from being hurt or killed by someone with a weapon or bigger than you, or groups of people. Most people avoid troubles simply using their eyes, ears and brains. There are many ways to defend yourself, to destroy someone, using words, fists or weapons, we all adapt the best we can with what mother nature gave us. Best strategy still is to shut up, rise with your brain then dominate everyone else with money.
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your weight, height and many others factors still are important; a 100 lbs martial expert isnt going to win a fight against someone three times bigger with our without fighting skills.
There are many small people pretending to be martial experts, who could make no use of their knowleges simply because they are too small to do any damage with them.. remember napoleon dynamite scene ? They pretend to be killers, but in fact they never ever use their so called skills, and simply use their brains to avoid being in conflict with bigger people . Delusional clowns basically. Paper tough guys. They can be admired by people smaller or as small as them buying into their bullshits, but sooner or later they will realiwe their mentors simply avoid any serious conflict with bigger guys cause they know they d get smashed.
Let's not forget martial arts might be a game changer between two small short skinny asians fighting for a bowl of rice, but when skinny asian fights against a 300LBS 7 feet tall irishman, well... Not sure about the outcome for the skinny asian.
Wasnt bruce lee in awe of the big muscular white males in north america? i remeber reading how admirative he was, how he decided to bodybuild etc once he discovered america. Fact is he knew he couldnt do shit against a big american dude whatever his level of skill or quickness.
Big heavy people sometimes get their asses handed to them by smaller people, that's for sure...but 9 times out of 10 bigger people reduce smaller people into a pulp. The small guy beating the bigger guy is the exception that confirms the rule, not the opposite.
So you're saying that being a massive bodybuilder (not just any big guy) will give you a decided advantage on the street? That's why Ronnie is one of the most feared fighters on the planet.
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i would love to see a fight with him and bas rutten.lol
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the fact i own two rifles and carry a knife most of the time i go out should tell you all you need to know about it.
Spending hours a week to train to become a " martial expert" isnt just worth it, especially when you re small; it wont prevent you from being hurt or killed by someone with a weapon or bigger than you, or groups of people. Most people avoid troubles simply using their eyes, ears and brains. There are many ways to defend yourself, to destroy someone, using words, fists or weapons, we all adapt the best we can with what mother nature gave us. Best strategy still is to shut up, rise with your brain then dominate everyone else with money.
so you have no experience...
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martial arts were developed by poor peasants with few or no weapons in asian countries... just like box was developed by their equivalent in western societies; basically you dont have the money to afford a weapon, still you might face adversity in your everyday life, so you develop fighting skills. It all depends of the reality you re living in.
Some people avoid any kind of physical violence just using their brains to subdue or submit themselves to threatening individuals who are struggling for the same ressources. Some use fists, feet, some use knives, some use guns, etc. I believe that in all these situations, nothing beats a handung or rifle, which have a double use; you can also hunt food with them. I dont believe in fist fights prolly cause im small , i prefer to defend myself using my brains. But i can understand someone bigger than me would instead use his fists instead of his brains to insure his own survival. Still, violence only happens when people fail to find a compromise that would allow both of them to survive by cooperating, using their brains. Then there is a need for physical violence or for weapon use. Ideally one would be skilled at fighting with fists, kicks, but also with weapons, as you re not going to do shit with your kung fu facing more than one or two oponent, and you better be an expert if you hope to at least defeat one.
The best option is always to avoid threats with your intelligence, and to rise socially , dominate others using your brain and work. This is what most religions encourage to do; rise becoming smarter than everyone else.
your weight, height and many others factors still are important; a 100 lbs martial expert isnt going to win a fight against someone three times bigger with our without fighting skills.
There are many small people pretending to be martial experts, who could make no use of their knowleges simply because they are too small to do any damage with them.. remember napoleon dynamite scene ? They pretend to be killers, but in fact they never ever use their so called skills, and simply use their brains to avoid being in conflict with bigger people . Delusional clowns basically. Paper tough guys. They can be admired by people smaller or as small as them buying into their bullshits, but sooner or later they will realiwe their mentors simply avoid any serious conflict with bigger guys cause they know they d get smashed.
Let's not forget martial arts might be a game changer between two small short skinny asians fighting for a bowl of rice, but when skinny asian fights against a 300LBS 7 feet tall irishman, well... Not sure about the outcome for the skinny asian.
Wasnt bruce lee in awe of the big muscular white males in north america? i remeber reading how admirative he was, how he decided to bodybuild etc once he discovered america. Fact is he knew he couldnt do shit against a big american dude whatever his level of skill or quickness.
Big heavy people sometimes get their asses handed to them by smaller people, that's for sure...but 9 times out of 10 bigger people reduce smaller people into a pulp. The small guy beating the bigger guy is the exception that confirms the rule, not the opposite.
the fact i own two rifles and carry a knife most of the time i go out should tell you all you need to know about it.
Spending hours a week to train to become a " martial expert" isnt just worth it, especially when you re small; it wont prevent you from being hurt or killed by someone with a weapon or bigger than you, or groups of people. Most people avoid troubles simply using their eyes, ears and brains. There are many ways to defend yourself, to destroy someone, using words, fists or weapons, we all adapt the best we can with what mother nature gave us. Best strategy still is to shut up, rise with your brain then dominate everyone else with money.
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so you have no experience...
i have experience in mindgames, i push people buttons until they re outsmarted and leave or submit, and avoid physical fights; if i cant avoid them i have weapons. Most of the time nowadays i simply avoid/ignore/ walk away. I have things to lose, things i didnt have in the past when i was younger and stupider.
Most of the time, at work for example, colleagues see me in the locker room and judging my msucular ripped physique, think i m a tough guy, that's probably why i lift weights, to look scarier than i actually am, other than wanting to have a good looking body to enjoy a decent sexual life with my partner; prolly the same reason why we all lift, to look bigger than we actually are. It is often enough to be respected by the people i need to deal with to earn my living. Most men are skinny or fat or a mix of both. As they get old they just want to go home watch tv , dont want troubles with a quicker thinking, moving, younger dude. Small guys stick together, big guys stick together, and they all fight each others daily for their own survival, allying with those who will improve or maintain their current odds of survival, and fighting those who threaten them.
Mindgames , war of words suffice to allow me to survive daily, work and earn my money, allowed me to live in a white middle class neighborhood , own my home, land and to cultivate stuff, buy weapons, that's my "practical experience" about struggling for survival ; and about everybody else 's "practical experience" at struggling for survival. Nobody is ashamed of the way he survives; we re all just satisfied to still be alive whatever the way we survive, and just hope we will be able to do the meaningless stuff that makes us feel good once in a while as long as possible.
Big people are often rude, used to survive simply by using their physical dominance to bully smaller people, gentle giants are very rare, but they exist tho. Often big dudes raised by single moms.
Small people survive using their brains, while bigger people survive threatening others with their physique, nothing new; that's how it works in the animal kingdom. Once in a while taller, bigger people are interested in my personality and want what i have and they lack, so some kind of cooperative alliances take place; i m faster thinking than them and help them with the mindgames, while they somewhat offer me their protection. It's sometimes suprising to realize how weak, fearful are tall, big people. Smaller people are used to survive using their brains, so i think ultimately they re tougher. Of course nothing beats being big AND smart; being tall and having an education that taught you how to dominate thru mindgames AND physically.
The myth of the alpha male; or the King. Most of the time tho it's more a matter of alliances with big people being advised by smaller but smarter people, they cooperate together in symbiotical relationships. The not so smart, slow, impulsive but powerful, charismatic King advised by his seconds, leutnants, thinkers, wise elders etc. every single one of them sharing interests in mutual goals etc.. Works fine as long as interests , goals are the same, sometimes they change so they backstab each others...
Just like the dominating alpha lion has his leutnants to keep the rest of the group in check; leutnants who are waiting for the alpha male to age, get older, weaker, to take his place.
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i would love to see a fight with him and bas rutten.lol
Oleg Spector would have both of them down before you even knew what was happening.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2671163/grabs_chokes_oleg_spector_russian_combat_systema_spetsnaz/
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:D dat's y dey make deese.
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:D dat's y dey make deese.
Sometimes even that isn't enough.
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Sometimes even that isn't enough.
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Oleg Spector would destroy you a million times over, I bet, even if you were armed with a small arsenal.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/4557641/street_self_defense_hand_to_hand_combat_systema/
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Oleg Spector would destroy you a million times over, I bet, even if you were armed with a small arsenal.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/4557641/street_self_defense_hand_to_hand_combat_systema/
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Spector would tear that gay shit up.
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WTF is that ali G