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When that Libya attacked happened and that Navy Seal got killed the media was all over it. They did features about navy SEALs, how amazing and elite they are and what a tragedy it was. The same about this new guy being killed at a gun range. But what they don't tell you is how the US military and government shits on them once they leave.
In San Diego there is a tent city near downtown where a lot of veterans go for shelter and free food after being forgotten by the government. One guy in particular was a Navy SEAL. He has PTSD and barely sleeps at night. He goes there for somewhere to sleep at night.
The media goes on and on about what amazing heroes they are yet you have people like the one mentioned about that no one gives a fuck about.
This shit makes me sick.
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That's what happens when people expect the government to take care of them. Go make a difference and help these guys out, no one else is going to and if you expect the government to do it then you are living in a dream world.
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When that Libya attacked happened and that Navy Seal got killed the media was all over it. They did features about navy SEALs, how amazing and elite they are and what a tragedy it was. The same about this new guy being killed at a gun range. But what they don't tell you is how the US military and government shits on them once they leave.
In San Diego there is a tent city near downtown where a lot of veterans go for shelter and free food after being forgotten by the government. One guy in particular was a Navy SEAL. He has PTSD and barely sleeps at night. He goes there for somewhere to sleep at night.
The media goes on and on about what amazing heroes they are yet you have people like the one mentioned about that no one gives a fuck about.
This shit makes me sick.
Not to mention the total lack of mentioning civilian and military deaths on the other side. Civilian deaths in Iraq and afghanistan are estimate at 500,000 fucking mental.
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Not to mention the total lack of mentioning civilian and military deaths on the other side. Civilian deaths in Iraq and afghanistan are estimate at 500,000 fucking mental.
I would guess those numbers to be much higher.
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When that Libya attacked happened and that Navy Seal got killed the media was all over it. They did features about navy SEALs, how amazing and elite they are and what a tragedy it was. The same about this new guy being killed at a gun range. But what they don't tell you is how the US military and government shits on them once they leave.
In San Diego there is a tent city near downtown where a lot of veterans go for shelter and free food after being forgotten by the government. One guy in particular was a Navy SEAL. He has PTSD and barely sleeps at night. He goes there for somewhere to sleep at night.
The media goes on and on about what amazing heroes they are yet you have people like the one mentioned about that no one gives a fuck about.
This shit makes me sick.
Haha. Those "Navy Seals" with PTSD on the streets are full of shit.
It takes a certain person to be in the Special Forces and they usually end up very successful outside of the military also.
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When that Libya attacked happened and that Navy Seal got killed the media was all over it. They did features about navy SEALs, how amazing and elite they are and what a tragedy it was. The same about this new guy being killed at a gun range. But what they don't tell you is how the US military and government shits on them once they leave.
In San Diego there is a tent city near downtown where a lot of veterans go for shelter and free food after being forgotten by the government. One guy in particular was a Navy SEAL. He has PTSD and barely sleeps at night. He goes there for somewhere to sleep at night.
The media goes on and on about what amazing heroes they are yet you have people like the one mentioned about that no one gives a fuck about.
This shit makes me sick.
the media are scum girls, there to serve their political masters. of course they won't draw the moronic publics attention to what's really going on
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Haha. Those "Navy Seals" with PTSD on the streets are full of shit.
It takes a certain person to be in the Special Forces and they usually end up very successful outside of the military also.
Special as in psychotic? Who else can witness all that death and not be bothered?
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How do you know he was navy seal? You wouldn't believe the amount of people that claim to be ex mil.
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Special as in psychotic? Who else can witness all that death and not be bothered?
The whole of Europe came out of WWII without living on the side of a freeway asking for handouts and they experienced way more killing and terror than most trained troops.
Imagine being a little kid in England and being carpet-bombed nightly. Yet most were able to rebuild and lead good lives. Why not our men?
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The whole of Europe came out of WWII without living on the side of a freeway asking for handouts and they experienced way more killing and terror than most trained troops.
Imagine being a little kid in England and being carpet-bombed nightly. Yet most were able to rebuild and lead good lives. Why not our men?
I think seeing death and being the one that inflicts the death are a little different. When being told to invade a home to kill a wanted terrorits and shoot to kill and when the smoke clears all you see are dead kids and women and no "terrorists" You start to doubt humanity
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I think seeing death and being the one that inflicts the death are a little different. When being told to invade a home to kill a wanted terrorits and shoot to kill and when the smoke clears all you see are dead kids and women and no "terrorists" You start to doubt humanity
I guess in your mind, this happened every 5 minutes.
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Haha. Those "Navy Seals" with PTSD on the streets are full of shit.
It takes a certain person to be in the Special Forces and they usually end up very successful outside of the military also.
exactly, Navy Seals are paid upwards of 60+k a yr, granted not nearly enough for what they do; but enough to keep them off the streets.
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exactly, Navy Seals are paid upwards of 60+k a yr, granted not nearly enough for what they do; but enough to keep them off the streets.
Money doesn't solve the fragile mental state they end up being in.
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exactly, Navy Seals are paid upwards of 60+k a yr, granted not nearly enough for what they do; but enough to keep them off the streets.
Go kill 10 arab kids then come back and tell us how well adjusted you feel. hell just go watch somebody else kill them while you stand by. All the money in the world does nothing for your mind state. Rich folk commit suicide all the time. It is not easy to kill. Dont be fooled by the military ads and the war mongering media...
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Go kill 10 arab kids then come back and tell us how well adjusted you feel. hell just go watch somebody else kill them while you stand by. All the money in the world does nothing for your mind state. Rich folk commit suicide all the time. It is not easy to kill. Dont be fooled by the military ads and the war mongering media...
Check what I said, I didn't say well adjusted....
Remember, I have relatives who are veterans, and I live in Annapolis--and I have neighbors who are veterans.
I spoke on how much Seals can make, and how some guy claiming to be a "Seal" is supposedly homeless.
Some of these men get top notch treatment in Bethesda...and rolling in Range Rovers. Granted their mental health might not be good, but some are making out far better than the run of the mill grunt coming home.
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But what they don't tell you is how the US military and government shits on them once they leave.
Why don't you tell us, then? The fact is that financially speaking, military personnel are very well taken care of, earning comparable total compensation to members of the private sector with similar experience and educational attainment, in addition to substantial after-service benefits.
I'm not personally aware of the amount of mental health treatment veterans are entitled to, but it seems clear that it needs revising. Is the fact that it is inadequate really constitute "shitting on" these people, though -- especially given the financial windfalls the government is showering on them?
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Why don't you tell us, then? The fact is that financially speaking, military personnel are very well taken care of, earning comparable total compensation to members of the private sector with similar experience and educational attainment, in addition to substantial after-service benefits.
I'm not personally aware of the amount of mental health treatment veterans are entitled to, but it seems clear that it needs revising. Is the fact that it is inadequate really constitute "shitting on" these people, though -- especially given the financial windfalls the government is showering on them?
This.
They are not "shitted on" in any way, there is plenty of ways for vets to get help, the problem is most of the ones you see are either fakers (especially common with the hobo's or just fucking lazy.).
Ones that are fucked up from combat I feel bad for, but not the ones that sit on a corner and beg for change. That is a fucking choice.
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All i can say is the UK is worse than the US..we hava a total idiot as Prime Minister who is cutting War Vetrens Pensions..a Disgrace .. mine will be cut.
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Special as in psychotic? Who else can witness all that death and not be bothered?
some of them cave in to the ptsd or they turn out to be predatory to achieve success.
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This.
They are not "shitted on" in any way, there is plenty of ways for vets to get help, the problem is most of the ones you see are either fakers (especially common with the hobo's or just fucking lazy.).
Ones that are fucked up from combat I feel bad for, but not the ones that sit on a corner and beg for change. That is a fucking choice.
mate donīt waste your breath because most of these kids have never even seen a uniform.
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The men of World War II were from the greatest generation. They fought horrific battles and came back building the country into the envy of the world. Now every other veteran wants a check for life. It's generation nothing. Don't think for one minute I don't have any compassion for guys in battle. Just making an observation.
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The men of World War II were from the greatest generation. They fought horrific battles and came back building the country into the envy of the world. Now every other veteran wants a check for life. It's generation nothing. Don't think for one minute I don't have any compassion for guys in battle. Just making an observation.
The Vietnam war was the start of this pussy shit. It's gotten steadily worse every year and war since then.
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The Vietnam war was the start of this pussy shit. It's gotten steadily worse every year and war since then.
well big shot tell us your experience
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well big shot tell us your experience
Well, after the Agent Orange rained down on me and caused me to become a bum etc., etc., etc....
I'm not talking about the military at all in this. Just the parasites like the media and politicians that reward these cheating scumbags that sully the military by claiming to be fake Seals or earning fake medals. If we could weed out these frauds we could distribute the money to the vets that really need it.
Notice how the Anti-Vietnam movement manipulated the media by parading out these washed out vets.
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shut your fucking mouth you MAGGOT
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shut your fucking mouth you MAGGOT
So you are ok with people whom never served are lying and getting close to $4,000.00 a month tax free while somebody that served and lost limbs or worse, gets shoddy treatment from the local VA hospital? To me that money that was stolen should go to making sure the true warriors are taken care of.
But then again, your are from the UK so you probably don't give a shit.
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I think in past wars including WWII these issues were buried under the carpet. I just don't buy the fact that psychologically the veterans of today are that much different than they were 50 years ago - I just think they've learned to complain more.
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When that Libya attacked happened and that Navy Seal got killed the media was all over it. They did features about navy SEALs, how amazing and elite they are and what a tragedy it was. The same about this new guy being killed at a gun range. But what they don't tell you is how the US military and government shits on them once they leave.
In San Diego there is a tent city near downtown where a lot of veterans go for shelter and free food after being forgotten by the government. One guy in particular was a Navy SEAL. He has PTSD and barely sleeps at night. He goes there for somewhere to sleep at night.
The media goes on and on about what amazing heroes they are yet you have people like the one mentioned about that no one gives a fuck about.
This shit makes me sick.
next time you see that guy give him some oatmeal it helps you sleep at night
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I think in past wars including WWII these issues were buried under the carpet. I just don't buy the fact that psychologically the veterans of today are that much different than they were 50 years ago - I just think they've learned to complain more.
everything changes with time, i remember when i first joined you got a slap if you screwed up. you took it and that was that. If you did that now you will be court martialed. I saw lots of "battle field discipline" as we called it. I do not think itīs complaining because they know the effects it has on young men and women and they covered it up for years. In the first world war the young men were shell shocked and there are old medical films to document this so..they knew about it. If they complained as you put it, they were classed as having "a lack of moral fibre".. what a load of bollocks. The world today is more and more hostile, British Army Regiments are being cut again thanks to that fucking Moron Cameron.. so now the guys will bounce back and forward on tours more often than before...it breaks up Family life and Marriages too. If these young people get sent into action for their land then they should be looked after.. lets not get caught up in a BS discussion about who had it harder WW2 or Vietnam or now..every conflict is diffrent. Ask a WW1 vet(not many still alive) and he will tell a WW2 vet , we had it rougher.
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my fucking rant over so today is back day... ;)
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everything changes with time, i remember when i first joined you got a slap if you screwed up. you took it and that was that. If you did that now you will be court martialed. I saw lots of "battle field discipline" as we called it. I do not think itīs complaining because they know the effects it has on young men and women and they covered it up for years. In the first world war the young men were shell shocked and there are old medical films to document this so..they knew about it. If they complained as you put it, they were classed as having "a lack of moral fibre".. what a load of bollocks. The world today is more and more hostile, British Army Regiments are being cut again thanks to that fucking Moron Cameron.. so now the guys will bounce back and forward on tours more often than before...it breaks up Family life and Marriages too. If these young people get sent into action for their land then they should be looked after.. lets not get caught up in a BS discussion about who had it harder WW2 or Vietnam or now..every conflict is diffrent. Ask a WW1 vet(not many still alive) and he will tell a WW2 vet , we had it rougher.
Is this what drove you to the panties bro
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Is this what drove you to the panties bro
no...it just got worse ... ;D how are ya big boy ?