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Title: How many Sandows would Cutler have if he had never let Phil Heath live with him?
Post by: 240 is Back on February 21, 2013, 10:25:43 AM
A few years ago, Jay Cutler was preparing for retirement and invited Phil Heath to crash in the guest house for a few months.  That's when Phil blew up - he learned the Cutler "protocol" and blew up world class in a year.

Things changed for Jay in his life - and he had to keep competing for a few years - He lost to Phil then skipped the second show, and many are doubtful if he'll compete this year based upon recent pictures.

Would Jay have won 1-2 more Olympias had he never given Phil his secrets?  (Ya know that Kai wouldn't have topped Jay those years...)
Title: Re: How many Sandows would Cutler have if he had never let Phil Heath live with him?
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on February 21, 2013, 10:27:13 AM
If Jay had Arnold's sportsmanship and psyche, this would never have happened.
Title: Re: How many Sandows would Cutler have if he had never let Phil Heath live with him?
Post by: Wiggs on February 21, 2013, 10:27:16 AM
Then Kai would have stepped in.

Jay should have only won in 06 (even though he looked like shit) and 09. That's it.
Title: Re: How many Sandows would Cutler have if he had never let Phil Heath live with him?
Post by: mass243 on February 21, 2013, 10:27:46 AM


Two more than now obviously.
Title: Re: How many Sandows would Cutler have if he had never let Phil Heath live with him?
Post by: JediTerminator on February 21, 2013, 10:28:15 AM
The student surpassed the teacher
Title: Re: How many Sandows would Cutler have if he had never let Phil Heath live with him?
Post by: 240 is Back on February 21, 2013, 10:28:48 AM
If Jay had Arnold's sportsmanship and psyche, this would never have happened.

LOL... Imagine Arnold inviting Big Lou to stay at his house and teaching him everything he knows!

Then Kai would have stepped in.

I dont think so - - - Kai probably bested Phil this year, but they award the O to the athlete which best personifies and represents the sport.  Not the best physique.  Kai's history might be stopping him from ever winning an O.   If Phil sits out last year, we're talking about branch's title.

Title: Re: How many Sandows would Cutler have if he had never let Phil Heath live with him?
Post by: Wiggs on February 21, 2013, 10:29:52 AM
LOL... Imagine Arnold inviting Big Lou to stay at his house and teaching him everything he knows!

I dont think so - - - Kai probably bested Phil this year, but they award the O to the athlete which best personifies and represents the sport.  Not the best physique.  Kai's history might be stopping him from ever winning an O.   If Phil sits out last year, we're talking about branch's title.



Title: Re: How many Sandows would Cutler have if he had never let Phil Heath live with him?
Post by: 240 is Back on February 21, 2013, 10:32:09 AM
Seriously... it's been said before... If phil doesn't win, do they skip Kai and give it to Branch, Wolf, whoever?

I think it woudl happen.  It wouldn't be fair... Kai was wrecking Phil in many poses this year, Phil had to step 1-2 feet over the line to look bigger, and in that Dutch (?) show afterwards, Phil got smashed by Kai and still won the show. 

Does anyone here really think Kai would be given the title?  (I'm agreeing he had/has the best physique out there)
Title: Re: How many Sandows would Cutler have if he had never let Phil Heath live with him?
Post by: Wiggs on February 21, 2013, 10:36:26 AM
Seriously... it's been said before... If phil doesn't win, do they skip Kai and give it to Branch, Wolf, whoever?

I think it woudl happen.  It wouldn't be fair... Kai was wrecking Phil in many poses this year, Phil had to step 1-2 feet over the line to look bigger, and in that Dutch (?) show afterwards, Phil got smashed by Kai and still won the show. 

Does anyone here really think Kai would be given the title?  (I'm agreeing he had/has the best physique out there)

Of course they would have If they gave him 2 Arnolds he can win an Olympia. The grapefruit thing is overrated.
Title: Re: How many Sandows would Cutler have if he had never let Phil Heath live with him?
Post by: Nails on February 21, 2013, 10:37:39 AM
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Title: Re: How many Sandows would Cutler have if he had never let Phil Heath live with him?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on February 21, 2013, 10:42:30 AM
I think the downfall of Jay Cutler was when he told people he was from Hierarchy bloodline when its clear he is not. That and of course the PMMA had turned on him.
Title: Re: How many Sandows would Cutler have if he had never let Phil Heath live with him?
Post by: G_Thang on February 21, 2013, 10:49:07 AM
Seriously... it's been said before... If phil doesn't win, do they skip Kai and give it to Branch, Wolf, whoever?

I think it woudl happen.  It wouldn't be fair... Kai was wrecking Phil in many poses this year, Phil had to step 1-2 feet over the line to look bigger, and in that Dutch (?) show afterwards, Phil got smashed by Kai and still won the show.  

Does anyone here really think Kai would be given the title?  (I'm agreeing he had/has the best physique out there)

they let dex beat jay, so what you think would happen if kai was on and there was no phil?

most of the audience and money makers behind men's bbing are fags, so you think they give an Owl about the grapefruit, probably get off on it.  

the grapefruits seems to be an issue with the chimps on this site.  ::)
Title: Re: How many Sandows would Cutler have if he had never let Phil Heath live with him?
Post by: Papper on February 21, 2013, 01:29:41 PM
If Jay had Arnold's sportsmanship and psyche, this would never have happened.

True. Jay should have given Phil the wrong advices
Title: Re: How many Sandows would Cutler have if he had never let Phil Heath live with him?
Post by: MikMaq on February 21, 2013, 01:44:04 PM
If Jay had Arnold's sportsmanship and psyche, this would never have happened.
By psyche, you mean blowing weider on a nightly basis.

The whole pysc out shit was a narcissist justification for  being hand chosen to win months before competition.
Title: Re: How many Sandows would Cutler have if he had never let Phil Heath live with him?
Post by: anabolichalo on February 21, 2013, 01:54:12 PM
what if no ronnie coleman

cutler would have 12 sandows
Title: Re: How many Sandows would Cutler have if he had never let Phil Heath live with him?
Post by: 240 is Back on August 01, 2013, 09:35:11 AM
True. Jay should have given Phil the wrong advices

If Jay had never taught Phil his secrets, Phil wouldn't have reached his peak for years.   

It'd be Jay against Kai in this years' O with Phil trying to make top 6.
Title: Re: How many Sandows would Cutler have if he had never let Phil Heath live with him?
Post by: Parker on August 01, 2013, 09:58:58 AM
what if no ronnie coleman

cutler would have 12 sandows
If there was no Ronnie Coleman, Flex would have won the O.
Title: Re: How many Sandows would Cutler have if he had never let Phil Heath live with him?
Post by: OTHstrong on August 01, 2013, 10:38:37 AM
How many Sandows would Flex Wheeler have if he never introduced Ronnie to Mega Dosing?
Title: Re: How many Sandows would Cutler have if he had never let Phil Heath live with him?
Post by: Nails on August 01, 2013, 10:53:48 AM
Kai would of beat him either way
Title: Re: How many Sandows would Cutler have if he had never let Phil Heath live with him?
Post by: Oly15 on August 01, 2013, 01:48:53 PM
How many Sandows would Flex Wheeler have if he never introduced Ronnie to Mega Dosing?

Ronnie would have mega dosed anyway. Thats what all the blacks do eventually much sooner than whites
Title: Re: How many Sandows would Cutler have if he had never let Phil Heath live with him?
Post by: Wiggs on August 01, 2013, 01:50:57 PM
Ronnie would have mega dosed anyway. Thats what all the blacks do eventually much sooner than whites

lolololol....Bullshit.
It aint us, it's you. We have the genetics to look good at lower doses. Who do you think ushered in the era of mega dosing?  DORIAN YATES.
Title: Re: How many Sandows would Cutler have if he had never let Phil Heath live with him?
Post by: Parker on August 01, 2013, 01:56:55 PM
How many Sandows would Flex Wheeler have if he never introduced Ronnie to Mega Dosing?
2-4. There is possibility that he was having kidney problems as far back as 1993.
Title: Re: How many Sandows would Cutler have if he had never let Phil Heath live with him?
Post by: Tito24 on August 01, 2013, 02:03:40 PM
phil is a very unimpressive "bodybuilder", the fact hes among the top only says something about the quality of todays pros. all small little bitches.
Title: Re: How many Sandows would Cutler have if he had never let Phil Heath live with him?
Post by: Oly15 on August 01, 2013, 02:06:57 PM
lolololol....Bullshit.
It aint us, it's you. We have the genetics to look good at lower doses. Who do you think ushered in the era of mega dosing?  DORIAN YATES.

Your logic (or absence of) flys out the window when you consider that every pro bodybuilder is mega dosing bc its serious competition. Therefore everyone is megadosing idiot. Blacks at lower doses? If your black race looks so good at lower doses why not go high?  ::) ::)

Dorian didnt usher in the era of megadosing you delusional jobless black dick sucking wannabe conspiracy expert whose missing the intelligence gene. Sergio Oliva did. Then Arnold, then haney, etc.

Now shut your mouth.
Title: Re: How many Sandows would Cutler have if he had never let Phil Heath live with him?
Post by: Tito24 on August 01, 2013, 02:17:42 PM
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Title: Re: How many Sandows would Cutler have if he had never let Phil Heath live with him?
Post by: 240 is Back on August 01, 2013, 04:39:14 PM
Basically, Jay already has a prime example of a client he trained who had incredible results.

Jay as a "guru" in a year or two?

 ;D


YES!   Jay woudl be an excellent guru.  Imagine Jay changing BBers 5 grand a month - each - and moving 5 or 10 of them into his house.

Eat with them, train, pose, etc... teach them to blow up like he did.   WOW he would be an excellent guru.
Title: Re: How many Sandows would Cutler have if he had never let Phil Heath live with him?
Post by: OTHstrong on August 01, 2013, 10:52:36 PM
Your logic (or absence of) flys out the window when you consider that every pro bodybuilder is mega dosing bc its serious competition. Therefore everyone is megadosing idiot. Blacks at lower doses? If your black race looks so good at lower doses why not go high?  ::) ::)

Dorian didnt usher in the era of megadosing you delusional jobless black dick sucking wannabe conspiracy expert whose missing the intelligence gene. Sergio Oliva did. Then Arnold, then haney, etc.

Now shut your mouth.
ouch  :o   ;D sorry Wiggs, your my dogg but that was fucken funny  ;D
Title: Re: How many Sandows would Cutler have if he had never let Phil Heath live with him?
Post by: TheShape on August 02, 2013, 09:45:03 AM
phil is a very unimpressive "bodybuilder", the fact hes among the top only says something about the quality of todays pros. all small little bitches.
They all look like fat manlets, especially in clothes.
Title: Re: How many Sandows would Cutler have if he had never let Phil Heath live with him?
Post by: G_Thang on August 02, 2013, 09:46:26 AM
Then Kai would have stepped in.

Jay should have only won in 06 (even though he looked like shit) and 09. That's it.

this.
Title: Re: How many Sandows would Cutler have if he had never let Phil Heath live with him?
Post by: rooseveltdunn on August 02, 2013, 12:58:05 PM
Your logic (or absence of) flys out the window when you consider that every pro bodybuilder is mega dosing bc its serious competition. Therefore everyone is megadosing idiot. Blacks at lower doses? If your black race looks so good at lower doses why not go high?  ::) ::)

Dorian didnt usher in the era of megadosing you delusional jobless black dick sucking wannabe conspiracy expert whose missing the intelligence gene. Sergio Oliva did. Then Arnold, then haney, etc.

Now shut your mouth.

Do you have proof that Sergio Oliva did this? This is news to me...
Title: Re: How many Sandows would Cutler have if he had never let Phil Heath live with him?
Post by: arce1988 on August 02, 2013, 01:08:48 PM
 Sleeping with the enemy
Title: Re: How many Sandows would Cutler have if he had never let Phil Heath live with him?
Post by: the trainer on August 02, 2013, 01:16:11 PM
they let dex beat jay, so what you think would happen if kai was on and there was no phil?

most of the audience and money makers behind men's bbing are fags, so you think they give an Owl about the grapefruit, probably get off on it.  

the grapefruits seems to be an issue with the chimps on this site.  ::)

You are wrong they care about the image its not about being gay, what if a female bodybuilder has a porn video of her fucking and sucking dick dont you think that would affect her chances of winning the o.