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Title: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: CREALMADRID on February 27, 2013, 10:36:31 PM

fuck yeah stupid police get owned
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: Radical Plato on February 27, 2013, 11:12:21 PM
Dude is a massive wanker, now that's the type of dude they should be tasing, just to teach the dumb fuck a lesson!
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: Powerlift66 on February 28, 2013, 01:50:02 AM
Owned that cop big-time.. 8)
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: dr.chimps on February 28, 2013, 02:04:21 AM
Gun carry and on vid. Guy went out looking for a confrontation.
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on February 28, 2013, 02:10:14 AM
Gun carry and on vid. Guy went out looking for a confrontation.

some good observations from chip.
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: 240_Iz_Nutz on February 28, 2013, 02:13:08 AM
I don't see how is not required to show his carry permit if it is all legit. Very funny though. The cop wearing Underarmour shit also made me laugh.
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: jethro on February 28, 2013, 03:25:50 AM
Bet he didn't film part 2 when a SWAT team took him down for j walking!!
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: Agnostic007 on February 28, 2013, 05:58:04 AM
Policing in Austin, I've arrested my fair share of 1st year law students who really thought they knew their rights, but were off based in some areas. For example, I got a lot of "You didn't read me my rights" when I arrested them for various things. The fact is, unless I'm going to question you about the crime, I don't need to read you your rights. In most cases arrests don't require questioning at the moment. While I applaud thier desire to stand up for their rights and not be hassled by "the man", more often than not, they haven't gotten to the class that actually addresses the issue they are arguing about, or slept in that day and it gets them in more trouble in the end. On the other hand, I've seen cases where an officer is called on something and ends up looking stupid because the citizen is right. Usually happens when an officer is trying to resolve a situation that is more civil than criminal and gives a direction or order that he or she can't legally enforce.     
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: Marty Champions on February 28, 2013, 06:04:40 AM

fuck yeah stupid police get owned
wow sucks you have to know all these roman court laws to get the cops off your ass
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: Marty Champions on February 28, 2013, 06:05:45 AM
Gun carry and on vid. Guy went out looking for a confrontation.

sometimes you have to be confrontational, in my terms i will confront those who reject knowledge of heme-iron and make them feel stupid and stop posting for a few days
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: bigmc on February 28, 2013, 07:12:38 AM

fuck yeah stupid police get owned

what a wanker

i hope someone shoots him

he is so pathetic he has to walk round trying to provoke the police

he probably knocks one out when he gets home
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: doison on February 28, 2013, 07:24:44 AM
The infinite recursion of liberalism...hate cops, yet want a larger government and more laws...new laws require a larger force to "police" their adherence.  
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: doison on February 28, 2013, 07:31:15 AM
what a wanker

i hope someone shoots him

he is so pathetic he has to walk round trying to provoke the police

he probably knocks one out when he gets home

It's a confusing logic employed by the police baiter. 

Man provokes police
police retaliates
man sues...expecting the law to punish the lawman for responding to man's provocation
man wins lawsuit
some policing force must make sure man receives money
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: 240 is Back on February 28, 2013, 07:37:28 AM
the cameraman sounds like a pain in the ass... but he's smart and knows his rights.  
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on February 28, 2013, 07:38:11 AM
Policing in Austin, I've arrested my fair share of 1st year law students who really thought they knew their rights, but were off based in some areas. For example, I got a lot of "You didn't read me my rights" when I arrested them for various things. The fact is, unless I'm going to question you about the crime, I don't need to read you your rights. In most cases arrests don't require questioning at the moment. While I applaud thier desire to stand up for their rights and not be hassled by "the man", more often than not, they haven't gotten to the class that actually addresses the issue they are arguing about, or slept in that day and it gets them in more trouble in the end. On the other hand, I've seen cases where an officer is called on something and ends up looking stupid because the citizen is right. Usually happens when an officer is trying to resolve a situation that is more civil than criminal and gives a direction or order that he or she can't legally enforce.     

You do know that board members are going to review everyone of your posts and if any have anything to do with anabolic steroids or any illegal activity they with reem you out and email the Austin Police dept.

Just so you know.

THE BEEF
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: Natural Man on February 28, 2013, 07:43:41 AM
Policing in Austin, I've arrested my fair share of 1st year law students who really thought they knew their rights, but were off based in some areas. For example, I got a lot of "You didn't read me my rights" when I arrested them for various things. The fact is, unless I'm going to question you about the crime, I don't need to read you your rights. In most cases arrests don't require questioning at the moment. While I applaud thier desire to stand up for their rights and not be hassled by "the man", more often than not, they haven't gotten to the class that actually addresses the issue they are arguing about, or slept in that day and it gets them in more trouble in the end. On the other hand, I've seen cases where an officer is called on something and ends up looking stupid because the citizen is right. Usually happens when an officer is trying to resolve a situation that is more civil than criminal and gives a direction or order that he or she can't legally enforce.    
these peopel study law to be smartasses, not to enforce the law, they often have no religious education, background, basically they just want to work in law and order to fuck people up, not to enforce justice in the first place. Atheists with diplomas often make bad use of them.

Anyone aplying to carry a weapon know you are not suposed to show it off in public, in front of strangers, kids, etc, it is forbidden here in canada, you are the one who s screwing if you re proven to have shown your weapons to people to scare them. You are suposed to keep it hidden, it's in the fucking manuals you re suposed to read before aplying, it is punished by law to just show off. Only in very remote areas of the country are people allowed to carry weapons (rifles) openly or in their cars because they might need them to defend against wild animals that might might attack them out of the blue. But even then, they have to have their car's doors locked etc, if they carry them they re suposed to be unloaded -very rarely are they authorized to have them loaded- or they are the ones comiting a mistake.

What kind of sad clown this dude is. It is forbiden by law here to show off with your weapons. You re the one getting your weapons and license taken away if you show off.
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: True on February 28, 2013, 07:59:57 AM
Gun carry and on vid. Guy went out looking for a confrontation.

Exactly. I dont mind the dude standing up to the cop, but this was a planned scenario and this law student guy is basicly a huge douchebag. I hope the delibirate attention on youtube was worh it. What a sad fag. ::)
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: Agnostic007 on February 28, 2013, 08:05:07 AM
You do know that board members are going to review everyone of your posts and if any have anything to do with anabolic steroids or any illegal activity they with reem you out and email the Austin Police dept.

Just so you know.

THE BEEF

THanks for the heads up. I'm pretty Andy Griffith so I think I'm safe
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on March 01, 2013, 08:56:58 AM
At the end of the day, if the police are stopping him illegally, then GOOD FOR HIM.
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: HTexan on March 01, 2013, 09:04:09 AM
At the end of the day, if the police are stopping him illegally, then GOOD FOR HIM.
He sounds like a douchebag, but blame the state. youre right he didn't do anything illegal.
I love guns rights, but I think in this day and age, Open carry should be illegal.
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: haider on March 01, 2013, 09:20:23 AM
"Words are to die, if humans are to live"

He may be within his legal limits but he's purposefully ignoring common sense. An attention whore plain and simple.
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: Kwon_2 on March 01, 2013, 11:46:37 AM

fuck yeah stupid police get owned

What happened here is nothing you would see a black person being able to do.
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: OneMoreRep on March 01, 2013, 12:17:06 PM
This is why more people should pick up a basic introductory book into criminal law and learn their rights.

Ignorance is no excuse when getting harassed.

That said, I do think that cops serve a purpose, but more times than none, they render themselves useless by simply meeting quotas and slapping fines on individuals for the most petty of things (traffic violations, Jaywalking etc..).

"1"
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: bigmc on March 01, 2013, 12:23:15 PM
This is why more people should pick up a basic introductory book into criminal law and learn their rights.

Ignorance is no excuse when getting harassed.

That said, I do think that cops serve a purpose, but more times than none, they render themselves useless by simply meeting quotas and slapping fines on individuals for the most petty of things (traffic violations, Jaywalking etc..).

"1"

so a guy walking down the street with a firearm after all the shit that has gone down over there

that has probably resulted in multiple calls to the police

that is clearly trying to provoke the reaction he gets

should be ignored

if the police hadnt challenged him and he had shot multiple victims people would be all over them

the police cant win the sooner people realise that and leave them alone to do one of the most difficult jobs in the world the better

i did it for ten years and everyone gives you shit everyone thinks they can do it better everyone wants you to be lenient on them but come down like a tonne of bricks on anyone that upsets them

society gets the police they deserve think about that
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: OneMoreRep on March 01, 2013, 12:34:31 PM
so a guy walking down the street with a firearm after all the shit that has gone down over there

that has probably resulted in multiple calls to the police

that is clearly trying to provoke the reaction he gets

should be ignored

If no laws were broken and it is a state that does not require you to conceal your weapon (i.e. open carry state), they do not have a legal right to stop him.

If he breaks the law or does in fact injure or even verbally assault someone whereby his apparent weapon can be ultimately used, then yes, there would be suspicion involved and that would be enough. Simply stopping a person, in an open carry state, who has not broken the law by way of their gun is completely illegal.

The recent events that have occurred have, if anything, moved law makers to push for the banning of certain types of assault weapons, while also reducing the number of bullets that can be contained in a cartridge.

if the police hadnt challenged him and he had shot multiple victims people would be all over them

People can huff and puff all they want, but by allowing police officers to break the law in order to unearth a possible suspect, you are allowing for the law enforcement agents to essentially pull fruit from the forbidden tree.

the police cant win the sooner people realise that and leave them alone to do one of the most difficult jobs in the world the better

i did it for ten years and everyone gives you shit everyone thinks they can do it better everyone wants you to be lenient on them but come down like a tonne of bricks on anyone that upsets them

While the police can often times have a difficult job, they must be weary to not allow their position of authority to drive them to break the law by default. They (police officers) provide a service to the public, are paid by the public (via taxes) and, at the very least, must be cautious in their approach to arrests.

I am not a lawyer, simply a law abiding Jewish man that has read a few law books in order to have a solid legal foundation of knowledge to defend myself with, if and when I find myself in front of a confused officer. Luckily, that has yet to happen, but if it were to, I would not make the officer's job difficult. I would simply abide by the laws and vocalize what I think (or know) is against the law.

"1"
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: dr.chimps on March 01, 2013, 12:42:20 PM
If no laws were broken and it is a state that does not require you to conceal your weapon (i.e. open carry state), they do not have a legal right to stop him.

If he breaks the law or does in fact injure or even verbally assault someone whereby his apparent weapon can be ultimately used, then yes, there would be suspicion involved and that would be enough. Simply stopping a person, in an open carry state, who has not broken the law by way of their gun is completely illegal.

The recent events that have occurred have, if anything, moved law makers to push for the banning of certain types of assault weapons, while also reducing the number of bullets that can be contained in a cartridge.

People can huff and puff all they want, but by allowing police officers to break the law in order to unearth a possible suspect, you are allowing for the law enforcement agents to essentially pull fruit from the forbidden tree.

While the police can often times have a difficult job, they must be weary to not allow their position of authority to drive them to break the law by default. They (police officers) provide a service to the public, are paid by the public (via taxes) and, at the very least, must be cautious in their approach to arrests.

I am not a lawyer, simply a law abiding Jewish man that has read a few law books in order to have a solid legal foundation of knowledge to defend myself if and when I find myself in front of a confused officer. Luckily, that has yet to happen, but if it were to, I would not make the officer's job difficult. I would simply abide by the laws and vocalize what I feel might be against the law.

"1"
So very eloquently and nicely said, One. Just less than an hour ago I saw an obviously mentally disturbed guy shouting at a car. 20 minutes later, some super cop was roughly putting him in handcuffs. I politely said that he had mental issues and she told me where to go. Walking 50' farther I saw a cruiser blowing through the lights on the way to the same incident. I shouted 'ease up' and he looked at me like a civilian. Sad situation , all 'round.  :-\ 
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: OneMoreRep on March 01, 2013, 12:47:40 PM
So very eloquently and nicely said, One. Just less than an hour ago I saw an obviously mentally disturbed guy shouting at a car. 20 minutes later, some super cop was roughly putting him in handcuffs. I politely said that he had mental issues and she told me where to go. Walking 50' farther I saw a cruiser blowing through the lights on the way to the same incident. I shouted 'ease up' and he looked at me like a civilian. Sad situation , all 'round.  :-\ 

Two things...

First, consider moving away from that area, if you so happen to live there.

Second, on the way to a "bust" cops will often violate the traffic laws (which is actually understandable), but in the process have hurt civilians due to their recklessness.

"1"
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: arce1988 on March 01, 2013, 12:49:29 PM
  He owned those constant law breakers. NO one should be ABOVE the law.
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: OneMoreRep on March 01, 2013, 12:50:15 PM
  He owned those constant law breakers. NO one should be ABOVE the law.

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"1"
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: dr.chimps on March 01, 2013, 12:53:32 PM
Two things...

First, consider moving away from that area, if you so happen to live there.

Second, on the way to a "bust" cops will often violate the traffic laws (which is actually understandable), but in the process have hurt civilians due to their recklessness.

"1"
Not likely.

So true. Very Sad.
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: bigmc on March 01, 2013, 12:55:05 PM
If no laws were broken and it is a state that does not require you to conceal your weapon (i.e. open carry state), they do not have a legal right to stop him.

If he breaks the law or does in fact injure or even verbally assault someone whereby his apparent weapon can be ultimately used, then yes, there would be suspicion involved and that would be enough. Simply stopping a person, in an open carry state, who has not broken the law by way of their gun is completely illegal.

The recent events that have occurred have, if anything, moved law makers to push for the banning of certain types of assault weapons, while also reducing the number of bullets that can be contained in a cartridge.

People can huff and puff all they want, but by allowing police officers to break the law in order to unearth a possible suspect, you are allowing for the law enforcement agents to essentially pull fruit from the forbidden tree.

While the police can often times have a difficult job, they must be weary to not allow their position of authority to drive them to break the law by default. They (police officers) provide a service to the public, are paid by the public (via taxes) and, at the very least, must be cautious in their approach to arrests.

I am not a lawyer, simply a law abiding Jewish man that has read a few law books in order to have a solid legal foundation of knowledge to defend myself with, if and when I find myself in front of a confused officer. Luckily, that has yet to happen, but if it were to, I would not make the officer's job difficult. I would simply abide by the laws and vocalize what I think (or know) is against the law.

"1"

as usual you are eloquent and difficult to argue with

let me just say its one of these jobs that when you do it your perception completely changes

i will bow out at this point because anti police threads just wind me up  :)
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: OneMoreRep on March 01, 2013, 01:15:30 PM
as usual you are eloquent and difficult to argue with

let me just say its one of these jobs that when you do it your perception completely changes

i will bow out at this point because anti police threads just wind me up  :)

Believe me, as someone who has many friends that are presently NYPD officers and also as former military, I completely understand the thankless job that law enforcement officers have to do on a daily basis.

I also believe that there is good purpose in having police officers. What I disagree with are officers that allow their position of power to drive them to, in turn, break the laws that they have sworn to uphold.

While I haven't had any issues with police officers, seeing videos like this remind me of the fact that there are instances whereby officers make mistakes (the situation in this video being one of them). Luckily, for all parties involved in this particular event, things were handled in a civilized fashion and allowed for a speedy resolve.

"1"
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: arce1988 on March 01, 2013, 01:29:11 PM
  omr is very eloquent
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 01, 2013, 01:30:59 PM
Believe me, as someone who has many friends that are presently NYPD officers and also as former military, I completely understand the thankless job that law enforcement officers have to do on a daily basis.

I also believe that there is good purpose in having police officers. What I disagree with are officers that allow their position of power to drive them to, in turn, break the laws that they have sworn to uphold.

While I haven't had any issues with police officers, seeing videos like this remind me of the fact that there are instances whereby officers make mistakes (the situation in this video being one of them). Luckily, for all parties involved in this particular event, things were handled in a civilized fashion and allowed for a speedy resolve.

"1"

Can't argue with that
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: 240 is Back on March 01, 2013, 01:32:40 PM
i dont like open carry states.   invites too many people like this to stir up fear in crowds and risk of confrontation.

If I see some punkass wearing a glock and TRYING to get attention, I'm having my hand on my glock just watching his ass.  We suddenly have a situation where 2 dudes might draw on each other for no reason than the other looks like a threat.  

This kid seems like the same type who WOULD open fire quickly "because I felt threatened, officer, and according to statute 123.456, I'm allowed to empty my gun until I no longer feel threatened, and you cannot prove I didn't FEEL threatened..."

Idiots like this hurt gun rights for the rest of us who carry quietly and don't feel the need to brag about it.  I bet he has a 3.5 inch penis.  insecurity shows.
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: 240 is Back on March 01, 2013, 01:36:50 PM
I've carried a weapon for 15 years with a permit... and I'd vote against OPEN CARRY in a minute.  

just too many 'by the book' insecure people like this... eager to stir up shit and either get jailed or into a confrontation, playing lawyerball instead of just using common sense.

go to work man... stop walking with a gun trying to scare people... you're no better than any criminal, your goal is to waste police resources and scare people.
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 01, 2013, 01:41:18 PM
i dont like open carry states.   invites too many people like this to stir up fear in crowds and risk of confrontation.

If I see some punkass wearing a glock and TRYING to get attention, I'm having my hand on my glock just watching his ass.  We suddenly have a situation where 2 dudes might draw on each other for no reason than the other looks like a threat.  

This kid seems like the same type who WOULD open fire quickly "because I felt threatened, officer, and according to statute 123.456, I'm allowed to empty my gun until I no longer feel threatened, and you cannot prove I didn't FEEL threatened..."

Idiots like this hurt gun rights for the rest of us who carry quietly and don't feel the need to brag about it.  I bet he has a 3.5 inch penis.  insecurity shows.
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Tragic shooting here this morning that just didn't have to happen. Man shoots a pit bull in his yard, calls the cops. Officer arrives and sees the dead dog. Dispatcher told the caller police are on the way, leave the gun inside when you go out to meet them. Man says "no, I'll keep it with me" As the officer gets there the man steps out of his house with the gun in his waistband or some sort of holster in plain view. As the officer tells him he is going to secure the weapon until the call is over and reaches for the weapon the man pulls away and the man pulls the handgun and points it at the officers face as he says something about the officer not touching the gun. Officer ends up shooting the man and killing him. Tragic ending that never had to happen.

The above is a general rundown of what happened. There were independant witnesses to the event and it is under investigation but at this point, that is the info 
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: 240 is Back on March 01, 2013, 01:51:22 PM
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Tragic shooting here this morning that just didn't have to happen. Man shoots a pit bull in his yard, calls the cops. Officer arrives and sees the dead dog. Dispatcher told the caller police are on the way, leave the gun inside when you go out to meet them. Man says "no, I'll keep it with me" As the officer gets there the man steps out of his house with the gun in his waistband or some sort of holster in plain view. As the officer tells him he is going to secure the weapon until the call is over and reaches for the weapon the man pulls away and the man pulls the handgun and points it at the officers face as he says something about the officer not touching the gun. Officer ends up shooting the man and killing him. Tragic ending that never had to happen.

The above is a general rundown of what happened. There were independant witnesses to the event and it is under investigation but at this point, that is the info 

There are a lot of shootings where people either don't konw the law - and end up getting blasted cause "nobody taking my damn gun"... or situations where some asshat will pretend he knows the law and will use it to chase down teenagers and create fights/shootings, or idiots carry AR-15 rifles to public events just to scare and upset people.

Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: bigmc on March 01, 2013, 01:53:12 PM
I've carried a weapon for 15 years with a permit... and I'd vote against OPEN CARRY in a minute.  

just too many 'by the book' insecure people like this... eager to stir up shit and either get jailed or into a confrontation, playing lawyerball instead of just using common sense.

go to work man... stop walking with a gun trying to scare people... you're no better than any criminal, your goal is to waste police resources and scare people.

agreed

the law is there to protect us

lawyers have made the law an ass with all these expensive stated cases that people quote and use as a litigation tool
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: DroppingPlates on March 01, 2013, 02:28:02 PM
Dude is a massive wanker, now that's the type of dude they should be tasing, just to teach the dumb fuck a lesson!

So protecting your rights makes you a 'wanker' and a 'dumb fuck'?  ::)
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: The True Adonis on March 01, 2013, 02:37:03 PM
Gun carry and on vid. Guy went out looking for a confrontation.
Its legal though so there shouldn`t be any confrontation. 
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on March 01, 2013, 02:39:41 PM
A lot of these people in video's like this actually work for LE internal affairs. They send these people out to see how officers react and then use the video as a training source. Ones that aren't LE are seen as trouble makers and cops don't forget them. Crazy way to live life looking over your shoulder and wondering if the Hierarchy put a little rat poison in your shirley temple for being a trouble maker.
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: The True Adonis on March 01, 2013, 02:40:04 PM
these peopel study law to be smartasses, not to enforce the law, they often have no religious education, background, basically they just want to work in law and order to fuck people up, not to enforce justice in the first place. Atheists with diplomas often make bad use of them.

Anyone aplying to carry a weapon know you are not suposed to show it off in public, in front of strangers, kids, etc, it is forbidden here in canada, you are the one who s screwing if you re proven to have shown your weapons to people to scare them. You are suposed to keep it hidden, it's in the fucking manuals you re suposed to read before aplying, it is punished by law to just show off. Only in very remote areas of the country are people allowed to carry weapons (rifles) openly or in their cars because they might need them to defend against wild animals that might might attack them out of the blue. But even then, they have to have their car's doors locked etc, if they carry them they re suposed to be unloaded -very rarely are they authorized to have them loaded- or they are the ones comiting a mistake.

What kind of sad clown this dude is.
I`m glad you live in Canada, because in America we can carry our guns openly in most states.  It strikes fear in the hearts of weak minded losers such as yourself.
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: The True Adonis on March 01, 2013, 02:44:52 PM
He sounds like a douchebag, but blame the state. youre right he didn't do anything illegal.
I love guns rights, but I think in this day and age, Open carry should be illegal.
Whats the logic behind that?  Most crimes are committed when someone conceals their weapon until they are ready to use it.
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: The True Adonis on March 01, 2013, 02:47:05 PM
If no laws were broken and it is a state that does not require you to conceal your weapon (i.e. open carry state), they do not have a legal right to stop him.

If he breaks the law or does in fact injure or even verbally assault someone whereby his apparent weapon can be ultimately used, then yes, there would be suspicion involved and that would be enough. Simply stopping a person, in an open carry state, who has not broken the law by way of their gun is completely illegal.

The recent events that have occurred have, if anything, moved law makers to push for the banning of certain types of assault weapons, while also reducing the number of bullets that can be contained in a cartridge.

People can huff and puff all they want, but by allowing police officers to break the law in order to unearth a possible suspect, you are allowing for the law enforcement agents to essentially pull fruit from the forbidden tree.

While the police can often times have a difficult job, they must be weary to not allow their position of authority to drive them to break the law by default. They (police officers) provide a service to the public, are paid by the public (via taxes) and, at the very least, must be cautious in their approach to arrests.

I am not a lawyer, simply a law abiding Jewish man that has read a few law books in order to have a solid legal foundation of knowledge to defend myself with, if and when I find myself in front of a confused officer. Luckily, that has yet to happen, but if it were to, I would not make the officer's job difficult. I would simply abide by the laws and vocalize what I think (or know) is against the law.

"1"
This post should be a sticky.
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: HTexan on March 01, 2013, 02:48:14 PM
This post should be a sticky.
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Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: Radical Plato on March 01, 2013, 04:57:10 PM
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Tragic shooting here this morning that just didn't have to happen. Man shoots a pit bull in his yard, calls the cops. Officer arrives and sees the dead dog. Dispatcher told the caller police are on the way, leave the gun inside when you go out to meet them. Man says "no, I'll keep it with me" As the officer gets there the man steps out of his house with the gun in his waistband or some sort of holster in plain view. As the officer tells him he is going to secure the weapon until the call is over and reaches for the weapon the man pulls away and the man pulls the handgun and points it at the officers face as he says something about the officer not touching the gun. Officer ends up shooting the man and killing him. Tragic ending that never had to happen.

The above is a general rundown of what happened. There were independant witnesses to the event and it is under investigation but at this point, that is the info  

Two things you can never TRUST - a Pitbull and a Police officer, this poor guy encountered both in a short period of time.  The Pitbull didn't get him, but the Police officer did.  Both Pitbull Attacks and Police shooting civilians doesn't garner much attention, it will quickly be swept under the carpet and the victim blamed.  This is par for the course when it comes to Pitbull attacks and police shooting citizens.
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 01, 2013, 06:07:05 PM
Two things you can never TRUST - a Pitbull and a Police officer, this poor guy encountered both in a short period of time.  The Pitbull didn't get him, but the Police officer did.  Both Pitbull Attacks and Police shooting civilians doesn't garner much attention, it will quickly swept under the carpet and the victim blamed.  This is par for the course when it comes to Pitbull attacks and police shooting citizens.

Kind of a mixed emotion thing for you. You hate pitbulls and you hate the police. you went 50/50 today
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: Natural Man on March 01, 2013, 06:30:57 PM
i dont like open carry states.   invites too many people like this to stir up fear in crowds and risk of confrontation.

If I see some punkass wearing a glock and TRYING to get attention, I'm having my hand on my glock just watching his ass.  We suddenly have a situation where 2 dudes might draw on each other for no reason than the other looks like a threat.  

This kid seems like the same type who WOULD open fire quickly "because I felt threatened, officer, and according to statute 123.456, I'm allowed to empty my gun until I no longer feel threatened, and you cannot prove I didn't FEEL threatened..."

Idiots like this hurt gun rights for the rest of us who carry quietly and don't feel the need to brag about it.  I bet he has a 3.5 inch penis.  insecurity shows.






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Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 01, 2013, 06:41:14 PM
I've carried a weapon for 15 years with a permit... and I'd vote against OPEN CARRY in a minute.  

just too many 'by the book' insecure people like this... eager to stir up shit and either get jailed or into a confrontation, playing lawyerball instead of just using common sense.

go to work man... stop walking with a gun trying to scare people... you're no better than any criminal, your goal is to waste police resources and scare people.
Exactly, got one in the house and car just stay silent protection is in order, no trying to scare people and shit.
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: kh300 on March 01, 2013, 06:50:37 PM
I'm the first person against government fucking with me and my rights. But did you guys not pay attention to why he stopped him? Think about it for a second, do you think this video wasn't a setup? You think this guy didn't want police to stop him? He knew what he was doing. People were calling 911 saying a guy was walking around with a gun. We don't know what he was doing or saying, but I can tell you he was looking for a confrontation.

Yes when the police get calls about someone they have the right and duty to check it out. So if it was a young black kid with a gun it would be ok to ignore him? So they talked to him to make sure he wasn't a crazy person. He has the right to carry the gun and police have the right to talk to him. There has to be a balance.

If I was walking up and down a street starring into peoples windows in the middle of the night would it be wrong if the police stopped me to ask what I was doing? Or should I study  some cases so I can tell him to fuck off?
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: Natural Man on March 01, 2013, 06:56:15 PM
Its legal though so there shouldn`t be any confrontation.  
Thanks for proving  with this idiotic childish post you dont know what you re talking about as you obviously never had a gun in your hands nor the official authorization to have one.
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: The True Adonis on March 01, 2013, 07:10:06 PM
Thanks for proving  with this idiotic childish post you dont know what you re talking about as you obviously never had a gun in your hands nor the official authorization to have one.
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I own five including an assault rifle.  I hope this helps.
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: The True Adonis on March 01, 2013, 07:11:53 PM
I'm the first person against government fucking with me and my rights. But did you guys not pay attention to why he stopped him? Think about it for a second, do you think this video wasn't a setup? You think this guy didn't want police to stop him? He knew what he was doing. People were calling 911 saying a guy was walking around with a gun. We don't know what he was doing or saying, but I can tell you he was looking for a confrontation.

Yes when the police get calls about someone they have the right and duty to check it out. So if it was a young black kid with a gun it would be ok to ignore him? So they talked to him to make sure he wasn't a crazy person. He has the right to carry the gun and police have the right to talk to him. There has to be a balance.

If I was walking up and down a street starring into peoples windows in the middle of the night would it be wrong if the police stopped me to ask what I was doing? Or should I study  some cases so I can tell him to fuck off?
If you were staring from the road, then fine.  On someone elses property, you might get shot at if you stand there long enough.  :D
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: Natural Man on March 01, 2013, 07:12:24 PM
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I own five including an assault rifle.  I hope this helps.
Sure...  ::) the only thing you own is a  baking tin for cookies you homo.
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: Radical Plato on March 01, 2013, 07:12:33 PM
Kind of a mixed emotion thing for you. You hate pitbulls and you hate the police. you went 50/50 today
Well, it was an interesting story, I also don't believe in citizens owning guns.  I do feel sorry for the old guy who was killed though.  First he encountered an angry pitbull, and if indeed it was attacking, I can understand the heightened state the old guy would have been in, it is a primal thing, he would have had a massive adrenaline dump that would have stayed with him after he shot the pitbull, it's not something that is easily controlled, when put in a real fearful state, you begin to see more things than usual as a threat.  And unfortunately for him, his fearful state then snowballed onto the policeman who entered the same fearful state and then acted on what his training is under such circumstances, which is to shoot to kill. 

Of course, at the end of all this, I blame society for not doing anything about the dangerous dog situation, apparently neighbours had complained about these pitbulls straying through the neighbourhood for weeks, and as usual, animal control did fuck all, and now an old man is dead.  And by all accounts he appears to have been a decent citizen.  Just a sad sad story.
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: The True Adonis on March 01, 2013, 07:13:29 PM
Sure...  ::) the only thing you own is a  baking tin for cookies you homo.
If you are willing to delete your account, I am willing to post them all.  ;)
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: DeltsaForce on March 01, 2013, 07:19:26 PM
If you are willing to delete your account, I am willing to post them all.  ;)

"Uber"man getting owned
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: The True Adonis on March 01, 2013, 07:21:16 PM
"Uber"man getting owned
Here is his chance to "own" me and yet he cowers in the Canadian Corner, just like the little bitch he has always been.
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on March 01, 2013, 08:05:13 PM
That said, I do think that cops serve a purpose, but more times than none, they render themselves useless by simply meeting quotas and slapping fines on individuals for the most petty of things (traffic violations, Jaywalking etc..).

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That's their purpose.  They are glorified meter readers.
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 05, 2013, 04:32:02 AM
That's their purpose.  They are glorified meter readers.

Had a record number of traffic fatalities and pedestrians killed last year in this city. Tickets were down. You may feel writing tickets for traffic violations is petty, I think running red lights is reckless and dangerous
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on March 05, 2013, 04:37:40 AM
Had a record number of traffic fatalities and pedestrians killed last year in this city. Tickets were down. You may feel writing tickets for traffic violations is petty, I think running red lights is reckless and dangerous

Of course running red lights is very bad.  But most tickets are surely for minor infringements like a few miles over the limit etc.
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 05, 2013, 04:42:37 AM
Of course running red lights is very bad.  But most tickets are surely for minor infringements like a few miles over the limit etc.

I don't have the stats to rebut that off hand but I can say that most of the cops around here have a minimum 10 over before writing and most are 15 over on a highway. Wouldn't be enough time in the day to write for a few miles over since everyone drives a few miles over. Residential areas are different. If it's 30 mph 8-10 could get you a ticket.
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: Krankenstein on March 05, 2013, 04:44:19 AM
Here is his chance to "own" me and yet he cowers in the Canadian Corner, just like the little bitch he has always been.

As per usual, once confronted with a challenge the "Uber" one runs away.  Girls and boys Guns and bullets
Title: Re: Policeman gets owned by law student, know your rights!
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on March 05, 2013, 05:29:24 AM
I don't have the stats to rebut that off hand but I can say that most of the cops around here have a minimum 10 over before writing and most are 15 over on a highway. Wouldn't be enough time in the day to write for a few miles over since everyone drives a few miles over. Residential areas are different. If it's 30 mph 8-10 could get you a ticket.

Wow that's good.  In Australia they are much stingier.