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I've been drinking it quite a bit lately and its now giving me a killer stomach ache. I used to drink egg whites and never had this problem but that was on the expensive side.
Is protein powder even needed post workout if i just have a big meal?
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I've been drinking it quite a bit lately and its now giving me a killer stomach ache. I used to drink egg whites and never had this problem but that was on the expensive side.
Is protein powder even needed post workout if i just have a big meal?
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who even knows what is in these powders
better stick with normal food if you ask me
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who even knows what is in these powders
better stick with normal food if you ask me
you've been having me thinking this anabolichalo. i notice when i get indegestion it's usually a day i'm intaking protein powder. i could get steaks cheaper than i buy protein tubs for.
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Do not drink more than 34.748493 grams per sitting or your body will become catabolic and your muscles will shrink.
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Completely stopped taking all protein supplements about 2 years ago. I could spare the 0.022 lbs of extra muscle it would help me keep, lol. Unless you're a competitive bodybuilder for whom every % of improvement counts i don't see the point at all.
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you've been having me thinking this anabolichalo. i notice when i get indegestion it's usually a day i'm intaking protein powder. i could get steaks cheaper than i buy protein tubs for.
i havent used protein powder for a longtime
i feel tempted a lot to buy again because lets face it, convenient to take to work etc
but i just dont think this stuff is legit
snake oil
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Yes who knows what is actually in this shite? Just eat some chicken or maybe some pork rinds.
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who even knows what is in these powders
better stick with normal food if you ask me
Ummmm.....PROTEIN would be in these protein powders.
Is this another whinefest for people who still don't know how to eat properly?
There are no conspiracies to trick you or anyone else, with regards to them. And, they don't cost an arm and leg, if you know when and where to shop.
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Hey this is my first post on get big. I live in norway so sorry for my grammar. I thought this was a bodybuilding chat room site. When a person asks about how much protein powder is enough, why don't give the man an answer. Sometimes is sounds like you people hate bodybuilding and everything around it. You dint drink protein powder,and what is in it? you guys are crazy... ha ha offcourse you need protein powder.. some of you remind me off those personal trainers that stare at me when go in to the gym because I'm big. Right after 5o minutes of training all you can on one muscle group you neeeeeeed a protein shake i use on whey 50 grams protein and some carbs..
If you guys hate everything, supplements ,food taring why dint you just start posting on a another site like tmz or all about this Illuminati \Armageddon bullshit... So too answer you question ,, drink around 2\3 shakes a day, but food is a better choice if you can.
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who even knows what is in these powders
better stick with normal food if you ask me
Yes, powders are garbge
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Hey this is my first post on get big. I live in norway so sorry for my grammar. I thought this was a bodybuilding chat room site. When a person asks about how much protein powder is enough, why don't give the man an answer. Sometimes is sounds like you people hate bodybuilding and everything around it. You dint drink protein powder,and what is in it? you guys are crazy... ha ha offcourse you need protein powder.. some of you remind me off those personal trainers that stare at me when go in to the gym because I'm big. Right after 5o minutes of training all you can on one muscle group you neeeeeeed a protein shake i use on whey 50 grams protein and some carbs..
If you guys hate everything, supplements ,food taring why dint you just start posting on a another site like tmz or all about this Illuminati \Armageddon bullshit... So too answer you question ,, drink around 2\3 shakes a day, but food is a better choice if you can.
Warning!
Supplement Industry gimmick account
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Hey this is my first post on get big. I live in norway so sorry for my grammar. I thought this was a bodybuilding chat room site. When a person asks about how much protein powder is enough, why don't give the man an answer. Sometimes is sounds like you people hate bodybuilding and everything around it. You dint drink protein powder,and what is in it? you guys are crazy... ha ha offcourse you need protein powder.. some of you remind me off those personal trainers that stare at me when go in to the gym because I'm big. Right after 5o minutes of training all you can on one muscle group you neeeeeeed a protein shake i use on whey 50 grams protein and some carbs..
If you guys hate everything, supplements ,food taring why dint you just start posting on a another site like tmz or all about this Illuminati \Armageddon bullshit... So too answer you question ,, drink around 2\3 shakes a day, but food is a better choice if you can.
welcome Viking 8)
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he he.. it is cool my first battle on get big.. Why do you say that protein powders are garbage? it is a supplement to youre diet and traing. i like to have it 2 times a day. What is even a supplement industry gimmick account?he he .you dont use protein powder?do you trainat all?
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Sorry to disapont you maybe.. i am not a true viking only 50 percent i am half norwigian and half jamaican.. So iam only half viking
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he he.. it is cool my first battle on get big.. Why do you say that protein powders are garbage? it is a supplement to youre diet and traing. i like to have it 2 times a day. What is even a supplement industry gimmick account?he he .you dont use protein powder?do you trainat all?
Protein powder is food. You don't NEED this particular food. You need a certain amount of protein,
if you do powder it's your choice.
That one doesn't always know what they're getting buying a powder is a very legitimate point.
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has nyone been having problems with optimum whey recently? shits tearing up my staomchnever had this issue, heard they have some new ingredient that is part of stevia??
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your body will absorb all the protein you consume. This crap people say about anything over 30 - 40 grams of protein will be shit out is bull shit, however 30-40 grams for most people is all you need to reach the max anabolic state. Anything over that is really not needed in one sitting.
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When you can't pee anymore
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you've been having me thinking this anabolichalo. i notice when i get indegestion it's usually a day i'm intaking protein powder. i could get steaks cheaper than i buy protein tubs for.
if your spending shitlaods of money on gear and a gym membership and al that protein powder is too risky IMO....imagine if theres really nothing in that stuff? fuck it....whole eggs and red meat are cheap as hell. i make pancakes every morning...
6 whole eggs
2 whole bananas
1 cup flour
1 cup milk
drench them in organic honey
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whey protein is a cheaper and higher quality source of protein than chicken breasts.
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if your spending shitlaods of money on gear and a gym membership and al that protein powder is too risky IMO....imagine if theres really nothing in that stuff? fuck it....whole eggs and red meat are cheap as hell. i make pancakes every morning...
6 whole eggs
2 whole bananas
1 cup flour
1 cup milk
drench them in organic honey
Nice!
I do it like that too
Powders are for lazy People who Don care about the Peak Performance only Quality natural Food can give to an athlete
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your body will absorb all the protein you consume. This crap people say about anything over 30 - 40 grams of protein will be shit out is bull shit, however 30-40 grams for most people is all you need to reach the max anabolic state. Anything over that is really not needed in one sitting.
You can digest a shitload of protein in a single feeding. Utilizing is another matter.
Reaching maximum protein synthetic rate from protein doesn't require much, however anything over this amount works anti-catabolically, so you can't easily put good figures on single feedings. It depends.
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I know that it is food. i is just easier right after training to have a shake tat to bring food with you.. I agree with you that you need protein it was just a little bit upset that people always here talk so much shit about protein powders ans supplements are fake.. i use whey shake,multivitamin,vitamin c and vitamin d and they work for me. but also a lot i have tried didny work at all.all tis testo booster i havent fell a daam thing,,he he.
i am sure some powders are shit i like on whey also muscletec ,but here in norway the cost alot..
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i am sure some powders are shit i like on whey also muscletec ,but here in norway the cost alot..
You guys can't even buy 1 gram vitamin C due to your laws, from what I understand.
OTOH steroid use itself isn't criminalized like here in Sweden.
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You can digest a shitload of protein in a single feeding. Utilizing is another matter.
Reaching maximum protein synthetic rate from protein doesn't require much, however anything over this amount works anti-catabolically, so you can't easily put good figures on single feedings. It depends.
Van, i feel that the efects of any more protein than is consumed in a normal diet is over exagerrated, and its understandable that supplement companies would do so. I think what helps fuel this 'myth' is the psychological satisfaction one gets from A: post workout protein which makes u feel like ure 'maximising your gains' and B: the feeling that more is better.
These days i dont give a fuck about 'maximizing my gains', so my protein intake is i would guess less than 80g a day.
My question to you: what is a good range of optimal protein intake? How optimal is it, and in what sense? Wil i gain 2 lbs of muscle instead of 2.1 lbs of muscle in a year if i dont overconsume protein? ???
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yes it is true we cant buy it here so we drive to swedwn to buy it..It ONLY TAKES 6O MINUTES from oslo to sweden.Yes steroids is legal to have and use if you only have for youre own cycle.It is not alloud to sell.It is crazy you cant buy vitamin c 1ooog bit you can buy smoke? it is a crazy world.
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I know that it is food. i is just easier right after training to have a shake tat to bring food with you.. I agree with you that you need protein it was just a little bit upset that people always here talk so much shit about protein powders ans supplements are fake.. i use whey shake,multivitamin,vitamin c and vitamin d and they work for me. but also a lot i have tried didny work at all.all tis testo booster i havent fell a daam thing,,he he.
i am sure some powders are shit i like on whey also muscletec ,but here in norway the cost alot..
Train Hard like in the Old days and you won t be able to eat within 20=30min After workout
At least After legs and back workout i Would Throw up
So you See, enough Time to get real food
If you are competitive time and Logistik Dosen t count anyway
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Train Hard like in the Old days and you won t be able to eat within 20=30min After workout
At least After legs and back workout i Would Throw up
So you See, enough Time to get real food
If you are competitive time and Logistik Dosen t count anyway
BTW
It s a Proofen scientific fact, that sythetic vitamins lower or Even inhibit increase of athletic performance
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On my weak bodypart i also puke sometimes my legs are small for my size i am 198 cm tall.i throw up rest 5minutes and have my shake
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so you are saying that it is proven that protein powder lower athletiv performance?ha ha
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On my weak bodypart i also puke sometimes my legs are small for my size i am 198 cm tall.i throw up rest 5minutes and have my shake
Lol
And if Not, in Borderline to puke, drink the Shake?
Or use your Finger First?
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My question to you: what is a good range of optimal protein intake? How optimal is it, and in what sense? Wil i gain 2 lbs of muscle instead of 2.1 lbs of muscle in a year if i dont overconsume protein? ???
I don't follow my own advices, so I don't know if I should comment. :D I eat between 20-120 grams, depending on appetite. However I look like absolute shit - I know I'm eating too little most days. I'm stronger than ever but the body looks crappy, flabby.
Protein requirement depends on overall calorie intake and overall carb intake which is protein sparing, etc. Steroid intake may reduce requirement (due to recycling of aminos) or increase it because of amount of new muscle protein synthesized.
I know 20 grams is too little (the amount Vince Basile thinks is required LOL).
I would go with what Lyle McDonald or Alan Aragon recommended and then go from there. I think Lyle said 1.5 grams/lb for strength athlete. May be too much but it probably doesn't hurt.
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so you are saying that it is proven that protein powder lower athletiv performance?ha ha
Can t read?
Sythetic vitamins i wrote
If powders Contain them ,,, yes
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he he,,, puke without finger.. he he and then shake... ;you really hate shakes?
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he he,,, puke without finger.. he he and then shake... ;you really hate shakes?
No, i think they are worse than food, and people have to admit that
Big Big lies by supp industry to fool newbies everywhere
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Ok iam maybee younger than you? i am 28,so iam not being disrespectfull to you. I didnt know what synthetic vitamin mean. Iam just saying in am eating around 300 grams protein when iam getting in good shape, and around 25o when i relax. always had around to shakes a day,and never any problems
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I don't follow my own advices, so I don't know if I should comment. :D I eat between 20-120 grams, depending on appetite. However I look like absolute shit - I know I'm eating too little most days. I'm stronger than ever but the body looks crappy, flabby.
Protein requirement depends on overall calorie intake and overall carb intake which is protein sparing, etc. Steroid intake may reduce requirement (due to recycling of aminos) or increase it because of amount of new muscle protein synthesized.
I know 20 grams is too little (the amount Vince Basile thinks is required LOL).
I would go with what Lyle McDonald or Alan Aragon recommended and then go from there. I think Lyle said 1.5 grams/lb for strength athlete. May be too much but it probably doesn't hurt.
Thanks for the answer man. Thats a bit more than i expected (or wanted to, lol) hear actually. Physique wise i don't care but down the line i do want to try out a PL meet and by those numbers im definitely undereating :D
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if your spending shitlaods of money on gear and a gym membership and al that protein powder is too risky IMO....imagine if theres really nothing in that stuff? fuck it....whole eggs and red meat are cheap as hell. i make pancakes every morning...
6 whole eggs
2 whole bananas
1 cup flour
1 cup milk
drench them in organic honey
EXACTLY HOW I FEEL
definitely a bit paranoid tho, i mean if you leave a used protein shaker in ur gymbag overnight, the smell of rotting eggs in the morning suggests something else than sugar water no?
quality however.....is not guaranteed even if there's protein
only good thing about it seems convenience, i'd like to use a quality meal replacement shake like MHP
but i donno cant really trust?
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EXACTLY HOW I FEEL
definitely a bit paranoid tho, i mean if you leave a used protein shaker in ur gymbag overnight, the smell of rotting eggs in the morning suggests something else than sugar water no?
quality however.....is not guaranteed even if there's protein
only good thing about it seems convenience, i'd like to use a quality meal replacement shake like MHP
but i donno cant really trust?
i'm curious if you would drink liquid egg whites? they have no taste to them. Do you trust pasteurized egg whites?
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Thanks for the answer man. Thats a bit more than i expected (or wanted to, lol) hear actually. Physique wise i don't care but down the line i do want to try out a PL meet and by those numbers im definitely undereating :D
I know some good natural powerlifters and they don't reach those numbers yet do very well in competition. Powerlifting is mostly attitude. Train as hard as you can and your appetite will tell you what's needed.
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ha ha ,,you can trust in cell tech he he
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i'm curious if you would drink liquid egg whites? they have no taste to them. Do you trust pasteurized egg whites?
i started drinking whole eggs
taste deliscious
may lead to a heart attack
which is maybe not such a bad thing, either death or time off from work
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On my weak bodypart i also puke sometimes my legs are small for my size i am 198 cm tall.i throw up rest 5minutes and have my shake
Im sick of reading about assholes throwing up while they are training, theres no need for it at all.
I have thrown up once in 28 years of training and thats because of too much beer the night before.
Waiting for "you don't train hard enough", its just bollocks.
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I've been drinking it quite a bit lately and its now giving me a killer stomach ache. I used to drink egg whites and never had this problem but that was on the expensive side.
Is protein powder even needed post workout if i just have a big meal?
Cook some meals for yourself and stop being so fucking lazy.
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anabolic meal beats fart powder
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So you are an asshole if you puke?he he. I puke often either but sometimes whan you have maybee pushed yourself too much you can puke. I have great shoulders and good arms and have never puked after traing them. but have puked after trainig lega and back.. but not more than maybe 3 times a year
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On my weak bodypart i also puke sometimes my legs are small for my size i am 198 cm tall.i throw up rest 5minutes and have my shake
then
So you are an asshole if you puke?he he. I puke often either but sometimes whan you have maybee pushed yourself too much you can puke. I have great shoulders and good arms and have never puked after traing them. but have puked after trainig lega and back.. but not more than maybe 3 times a year
??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
I will excuse the lack of English, maybe you dont know what you are writing.
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EXACTLY HOW I FEEL
definitely a bit paranoid tho, i mean if you leave a used protein shaker in ur gymbag overnight, the smell of rotting eggs in the morning suggests something else than sugar water no?
quality however.....is not guaranteed even if there's protein
only good thing about it seems convenience, i'd like to use a quality meal replacement shake like MHP
but i donno cant really trust?
dont trust it dude, i think whey is shit anyways
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dont trust it dude, i think whey is shit anyways
yeah it doesnt really matter anyway if you have breakfast at 5:30 that you dont eat untill 12:00 at noon as long as you eat that food at the end of the day no difference
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Here's my contribution to bro science. A lot of protein supplements are sweetened with artificial sweetener. I have heard from so many with empirical knowledge say they get the runs and a stomach ache when using many of them. If I use aspertame sweetener for example I can get by using a little. If I'm making 2 to 3 shakes I'm done.
Another thing is plenty of us are lactose intolerant. Some are super sensitive and some it takes a lot. If you have some sensitivity it might reveal itself after 2 or 3 shakes where one shake might not bother you.
Remember that supplements are a supplement. Don't use so much that it replaces food all the time. Whey isolate is more pure and cost more than whey concentrate. Sometimes protein containers mix the two to deceive you because you know the ratio is a little isolate and a whole lot of concentrate. I really don't believe for a second that whey isolate is completely lactose free unless they are using treated milk product and they are not. Remember supplements are not regulated and if they put lactose free on the label it doesn't mean that it's true or tested in real lab that can be trusted.
The price of all protein is crazy and over priced. I had luck with isopure stomach wise. Also egg protein that doesn't have an artificial sweetener that aggravates me. Looking at the price of protein you would be better off buying eggs at costco and making yourself some eggs in a pan. Cheaper and so mild to the stomach.
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clearly the conclusion of this thread is not to buy any fucking supplements
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I've been drinking it quite a bit lately and its now giving me a killer stomach ache. I used to drink egg whites and never had this problem but that was on the expensive side.
Is protein powder even needed post workout if i just have a big meal?
more than 3 scoops a day makes my bunghole hurt :(
with that said i get about 80-100 grams daily
sure i could do 200 grams of protien powder but my ass would hurt it could be i need to have protien shakes with fiber one cereal
protein does work i came down from 335 to 320 in a few days
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Im sick of reading about assholes throwing up while they are training, theres no need for it at all.
I have thrown up once in 28 years of training and thats because of too much beer the night before.
Waiting for "you don't train hard enough", its just bollocks.
I threw up a few times. Part of that was on leg exercises, largely because I wasn't breathing properly and made myself dizzy. And, I wasn't nearly as strong as I am now.
clearly the conclusion of this thread is not to buy any fucking supplements
Says who? Again, smart patient shopping mitigates all these problems, except for your woe-is-me mentality.
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Asshole you don't even lift weights
Did i hurt your feelings? :D
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nono, there is indeed snakeoil selling going on.
in all the protein bars, the protein used is collagen stuff, which is useles for building muscle.
now for the how much powder is needed.well, none, just eat chicken or some meat instead.
There's no "instead" needed. Why not use both? I don't see why people make this a "food vs. supplements" thing.
Plus, it's safe to say that a good deal of our Getbig brethren don't have the discipline to do either, with regards to protein consumption.
They either won't prep their meals, so they can eat regular food on a timely basis. Or, they won't pack enough protein powder to gulp some shakes, if their classes and/or jobs don't allow for eating.
For me, it's simple: I eat my solid regular meals at home; and, except for lunch, I take my powders or RTDs (i.e. the GNC Lean Muscle Meal ones I just got for $0.90 each ;D ) to work with me.
If I'm in a series of meetings, I can't break out the Tupperware and start gnawing on chicken. But, a quick RTD, while my colleagues are guzzling soda or coffee, works just fine.
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Here's my contribution to bro science. A lot of protein supplements are sweetened with artificial sweetener. I have heard from so many with empirical knowledge say they get the runs and a stomach ache when using many of them. If I use aspertame sweetener for example I can get by using a little. If I'm making 2 to 3 shakes I'm done.
Another thing is plenty of us are lactose intolerant. Some are super sensitive and some it takes a lot. If you have some sensitivity it might reveal itself after 2 or 3 shakes where one shake might not bother you.
Remember that supplements are a supplement. Don't use so much that it replaces food all the time. Whey isolate is more pure and cost more than whey concentrate. Sometimes protein containers mix the two to deceive you because you know the ratio is a little isolate and a whole lot of concentrate. I really don't believe for a second that whey isolate is completely lactose free unless they are using treated milk product and they are not. Remember supplements are not regulated and if they put lactose free on the label it doesn't mean that it's true or tested in real lab that can be trusted.
The price of all protein is crazy and over priced. I had luck with isopure stomach wise. Also egg protein that doesn't have an artificial sweetener that aggravates me. Looking at the price of protein you would be better off buying eggs at costco and making yourself some eggs in a pan. Cheaper and so mild to the stomach.
Some of those low carb protein bars are brutal on your stomach. I never had bad experiences with powders, but in general, just grab real food.
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Some of those low carb protein bars are brutal on your stomach. I never had bad experiences with powders, but in general, just grab real food.
It's the sugar alcohols in the low carb bars that tear up your stomach, if your system doesn't take to those. The ProMax bars don't have them.
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Here's my contribution to bro science. A lot of protein supplements are sweetened with artificial sweetener. I have heard from so many with empirical knowledge say they get the runs and a stomach ache when using many of them. If I use aspertame sweetener for example I can get by using a little. If I'm making 2 to 3 shakes I'm done.
Another thing is plenty of us are lactose intolerant. Some are super sensitive and some it takes a lot. If you have some sensitivity it might reveal itself after 2 or 3 shakes where one shake might not bother you.
Remember that supplements are a supplement. Don't use so much that it replaces food all the time. Whey isolate is more pure and cost more than whey concentrate. Sometimes protein containers mix the two to deceive you because you know the ratio is a little isolate and a whole lot of concentrate. I really don't believe for a second that whey isolate is completely lactose free unless they are using treated milk product and they are not. Remember supplements are not regulated and if they put lactose free on the label it doesn't mean that it's true or tested in real lab that can be trusted.
The price of all protein is crazy and over priced. I had luck with isopure stomach wise. Also egg protein that doesn't have an artificial sweetener that aggravates me. Looking at the price of protein you would be better off buying eggs at costco and making yourself some eggs in a pan. Cheaper and so mild to the stomach.
IsoPure is AWESOME, except for the fact that the zero-carb version dries out your throat (thanks to the sucralose, used to sweeten it).
But, unless you get it on clearance, you'll have to take out a second mortgage on your house to buy some. I haven't used any in at least six months, and that was when I could get the individual bottles for about a dollar.
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It's the sugar alcohols in the low carb bars that tear up your stomach, if your system doesn't take to those. The ProMax bars don't have them.
I knew the sugar alcohol thing, but some aren't as bad. Thinks for the tip on the ProMax bro.
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Buy quality protein powder. This is why I stick to Optimum Nutrition Gold. Whenever I try a new protein powder I know it's total shit if my farts enter the chemical warfare level.
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epic brownosing comment :-X
the vikings see poles as subhuman, i hope this helps
i'm not a pole dipshit
i'm an amercian in poland, and my ancestral roots are German, Austrian, and French 8)
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I knew the sugar alcohol thing, but some aren't as bad. Thinks for the tip on the ProMax bro.
I don't think the ProMax bars come in "low carb" form. There are the "Lower Sugar (LS)" versions, though.
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On my weak bodypart i also puke sometimes my legs are small for my size i am 198 cm tall.i throw up rest 5minutes and have my shake
Have you tried getting more potassium in your diet? after brutal leg days I can barely drive home sometimes but I do not feel the urge to puke. Perhaps you are only puking because you drank too much water and not enough electrolytes ;D
electrolytes LMAO :D
After idiocracy I can't take electrolytes seriously anymore.
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I only consume one shake per day, if that. They should be used for convenience, real food is always better than something that isn't even regulated.
8)
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to galeinko..YOU are calling me a clown? he he, I have always thouht that you need some pritein about 3o minutes after traing? anyways you look very ripped and good gor youre age so it works for you. but i always ave one and then go gome and eat another meal around i hour later.
By the way norwegian just to look down on polish people, but not so muc know. They are very good workers and they are wery polite
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its alright.
it depends, when theres little time, protein shake isz ok.
but really,really, wehn on steroids, it dont matter when you get your protein,just get it throughout the day.on gear you can starve for 24 hrs and not loose any muscle.infact,many ppl should try this ;)
True that.
Protein shakes are useless, read the GH 15 bible.
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Have you tried getting more potassium in your diet? after brutal leg days I can barely drive home sometimes but I do not feel the urge to puke. Perhaps you are only puking because you drank too much water and not enough electrolytes ;D
electrolytes LMAO :D
After idiocracy I can't take electrolytes seriously anymore.
they make MIO Sport now. It's water flavoring and it contains potassium.
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Since meat doesn't come in chocolate or banana flavour, I'll keep using whey shakes occasionally.