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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: Soul Crusher on March 25, 2013, 09:08:31 AM
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/25/george-zimmermans-brother-robert-zimmerman-jr_n_2948210.html
ha ha ha he calls it the "Lib Media"
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maybe his asshole brother shuold have thought twice about running into an unknown situation with a gun, chasing some kid 2 blocks in the night, when police were a minute away.
blame the media... dont blame the poor decision making of zimmerman. "These assholes always get away with this..." and "He's getting away..."
Total vendetta, angry prick with history of alcohol and battery.
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maybe his asshole brother shuold have thought twice about running into an unknown situation with a gun, chasing some kid 2 blocks in the night, when police were a minute away.
blame the media... dont blame the poor decision making of zimmerman. "These assholes always get away with this..." and "He's getting away..."
Total vendetta, angry prick with history of alcohol and battery.
Got to love the pic he re-tweeted. lol
'Any Questions" ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I dont give a shit if if was jeffrey dahmer that he chased two blocks...
zimmerman knew the cops were a minute away. he knew the kid was running away and posed no threat. we know he was angry cause he called trayvon an a-hole and said these punks always get away with it.
Let's put it this way... if things were looking UP for the defense, Zimm's brother wouldn't be online posting some borderline shit like this, attacking the victim. The fact he's trying SO hard to bring race into this - when really it's just one asshole chasing another asshole 2 blocks with a gun. Pretty clean cut there.
Zimm's proxies trying to install race as an issue shows how desperate they are ;)
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I dont give a shit if if was jeffrey dahmer that he chased two blocks...
zimmerman knew the cops were a minute away. he knew the kid was running away and posed no threat. we know he was angry cause he called trayvon an a-hole and said these punks always get away with it.
Let's put it this way... if things were looking UP for the defense, Zimm's brother wouldn't be online posting some borderline shit like this, attacking the victim. The fact he's trying SO hard to bring race into this - when really it's just one asshole chasing another asshole 2 blocks with a gun. Pretty clean cut there.
Zimm's proxies trying to install race as an issue shows how desperate they are ;)
bottom line...Zimmerdumb chased down an innocent black kid who was minding his own business and got his ass handed to him on a plate when he confronted him......couldn't deal with it and shot the kid....should get 20 years at least, and as penance should get raped in prison...
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Poor schmuck. Can't wait for his meltdown once his brother is sentenced.
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Can't wait to see 240 and co.'s heads pop like pimples when Zimmer is acquitted.
bottom line...Zimmerdumb chased down an innocent black kid who was minding his own business and got his ass handed to him on a plate when he confronted him......couldn't deal with it and shot the kid....should get 20 years at least, and as penance should get raped in prison...
Yeah, he got owned. That's why he's alive and T-dawg's dead. :-X
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Can't wait to see 240 and co.'s heads pop like pimples when Zimmer is acquitted.
Yeah, he got owned. That's why he's alive and T-dawg's dead. :-X
only fags like you come on here and root for a racist fuck who shot a kid for no reason to get acquitted
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only fags like you come on here and root for a racist fuck who shot a kid for no reason to get acquitted
Haha, meltdown.
Couldn't care less. People are shot every day. Only reason you (and anyone else cares about this case) is because it involved a black victim. If the roles were reversed then this wouldn't have even made the news.
Funny how there's no rage from you over the white 1-year-old that was shot in the face by the black 17-year-old last week. ::)
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Haha, meltdown.
Couldn't care less. People are shot every day. Only reason you (and anyone else cares about this case) is because it involved a black victim. If the roles were reversed then this wouldn't have even made the news.
Funny how there's no rage from you over the white 1-year-old that was shot in the face by the black 17-year-old last week. ::)
not a meltdown at all you dumb fuck...just a keen observation
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only fags like you come on here and root for a racist fuck who shot a kid for no reason to get acquitted
Zimm is an obama voter
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not a meltdown at all you dumb fuck...just a keen observation
Your posts makes me believe you're on the verge of tears. Save your crocodile tears for someone else. The only racist here is you with your feigned sympathy for your black brotha. You couldn't care less about all the other black murder victims who were killed by other blacks. It's only the end of the world when a non-black is the aggressor.
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Your posts makes me believe you're on the verge of tears. Save your crocodile tears for someone else. The only racist here is you with your feigned sympathy for your black brotha. You couldn't care less about all the other black murder victims who were killed by other blacks. It's only the end of the world when a non-black is the aggressor.
Funny how Andre and the others never said a word about what DeMarquis did to that little baby in Georgia.
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i dont give a shit about race. had zimmerman chased me with a gun for 2 blocks in the night, I would have laid down prone and fired upon him, for fear of my life. Anytime a person who isn't a cop chases you 2 blocks in the night for no reason, you have reasonable fear for your safety.
I know, most getbiggers claim they would have calmly answered his Qs... but I doubt it. Trayvon could have picked up a brick and split open zimm's head, and what would the story have been? Unarmed teenager uses deadly force to protect himself against 25 year old armed man chasing him without provocation.
Trayvon could have killed him legally. Any of us who woulnd't have swung first upon a non-cop carrying heat chasing us.... well, that's not a man with a survival instinct. There is no conversation after an armed man chases you two blocks.
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i just dont believe it. i just dont believe ANY getbigger would let zimm chase them two blocks with a gun (and dont tell me you can't tell a fat man is packing a 9mm when he runs for 2 blocks.... lmao...) you ever tried running with IWB 9mm? LOL...
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i just dont believe it. i just dont believe ANY getbigger would let zimm chase them two blocks with a gun (and dont tell me you can't tell a fat man is packing a 9mm when he runs for 2 blocks.... lmao...) you ever tried running with IWB 9mm? LOL...
Why do you think I care about your opinion on this topic considering how many outright lies you've told on it over the course of the last year? I don't watch nor care about anything said on MSNBC, thus your opinion to me means nothing.
Funny how Andre and the others never said a word about what DeMarquis did to that little baby in Georgia.
Black suspect -nothing to see here.
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only fags like you come on here and root for a racist fuck who shot a kid for no reason to get acquitted
What makes you say Zimmerman is racist?
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I believe Zimms will be acquitted.
The reality is that as far as anyone knows, he didn't pull his weapon until he was being physically assaulted.
Just because someone follows you does not give you an excuse to attack them. You are more than welcome to turn around and ask why they are doing so, but I don't think you can just hit them.
Truth be told, while I believe Zimmerman is a complete idiot and a moron and should not have followed Trayvon Martin under any circumstances, I do not believe you can convict him of murder.
Stalking maybe?
I don't know, but murder seems a stretch... And since that's what they charged him with, I expect he will, and should, be acquitted.
Just my opinion.
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We should start a betting pool on whether he will be acquitted or found guilty of murder when the trial starts.
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i dont watch msnbc anymore. i'm barely on political these days too. politics are boring lately. but this topic - in which zimmerman used stand-your-ground defense initially (until the author of the bill said it didn't apply one bit) is a clear case of zimm's actions potentially hurting the rights of gun owners.
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Your posts makes me believe you're on the verge of tears. Save your crocodile tears for someone else. The only racist here is you with your feigned sympathy for your black brotha. You couldn't care less about all the other black murder victims who were killed by other blacks. It's only the end of the world when a non-black is the aggressor.
sigh....your idiocy rears its head again....we are not talking about those "other black murder victims" here...we are talking about this case....and it doesn't matter the race...an innocent boy was killed for no reason....but an asshole horse-faced fag like you wants to put it in racial terms
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i dont give a shit about race. had zimmerman chased me with a gun for 2 blocks in the night, I would have laid down prone and fired upon him, for fear of my life. Anytime a person who isn't a cop chases you 2 blocks in the night for no reason, you have reasonable fear for your safety.
I know, most getbiggers claim they would have calmly answered his Qs... but I doubt it. Trayvon could have picked up a brick and split open zimm's head, and what would the story have been? Unarmed teenager uses deadly force to protect himself against 25 year old armed man chasing him without provocation.
Trayvon could have killed him legally. Any of us who woulnd't have swung first upon a non-cop carrying heat chasing us.... well, that's not a man with a survival instinct. There is no conversation after an armed man chases you two blocks.
agreed...and anyway who the fuck is Zimmerdumb to be questioning anybody???.....also you are right..had he been following me I would have went on the offensive quickly so he wouldn't get the jump on me..these dickheads on here don't understand that
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What makes you say Zimmerman is racist?
"these assholes always get away with it"
need I say more?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
does he make that same statement if its a white guy in a hoddie????????????????????????????????????????
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I believe Zimms will be acquitted.
The reality is that as far as anyone knows, he didn't pull his weapon until he was being physically assaulted.
Just because someone follows you does not give you an excuse to attack them. You are more than welcome to turn around and ask why they are doing so, but I don't think you can just hit them.
Truth be told, while I believe Zimmerman is a complete idiot and a moron and should not have followed Trayvon Martin under any circumstances, I do not believe you can convict him of murder.
Stalking maybe?
I don't know, but murder seems a stretch... And since that's what they charged him with, I expect he will, and should, be acquitted.
Just my wrong opinion.
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"these assholes always get away with it"
need I say more?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
does he make that same statement if its a white guy in a hoddie????????????????????????????????????????
Trayvon was a ghetto punk thug. Maybe he was referring to gold teeth pants around ass ghetto superstars in hoodies?
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sigh....your idiocy rears its head again....we are not talking about those "other black murder victims" here...we are talking about this case....and it doesn't matter the race...an innocent boy was killed for no reason....but an asshole horse-faced fag like you wants to put it in racial terms
Uh . . . .
only fags like you come on here and root for a racist fuck who shot a kid for no reason to get acquitted
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"these assholes always get away with it"
need I say more?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
does he make that same statement if its a white guy in a hoddie????????????????????????????????????????
You don't need to say more. You told me the basis for your claim that Zimmerman is a racist. Thanks. Pretty darn weak, but I got it.
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You don't need to say more. You told me the basis for your claim that Zimmerman is a racist. Thanks. Pretty darn weak, but I got it.
what do you want me to do, write you a thesis?.....get off it..come into the real world
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Uh . . . .
whats wrong with what I wrote?..say it out loud
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what do you want me to do, write you a thesis?.....get off it..come into the real world
When Obama was chooming and doing blow - he looked like Trayvon
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what do you want me to do, write you a thesis?.....get off it..come into the real world
I said you didn't have to say anything more, so no thesis necessary.
Calling Zimmerman a racist based on some innocuous comment is pretty weak. Racism does exist, but that statement by Zimmerman is not an example of racism.
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I said you didn't have to say anything more, so no thesis necessary.
Calling Zimmerman a racist based on some innocuous comment is pretty weak. Racism does exist, but that statement by Zimmerman is not an example of racism.
in the world of Andre - there is nothing remotely suspicious about a thug w gold teeth, pants around ass, moping around in the middle of the night in a suburban nabe.
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whats wrong with what I wrote?..say it out loud
You accused Fury of putting the Zimmerman/Martin situation in "racial terms," when you're the one who called Zimmerman a racist (i.e., you put the situation in "racial terms").
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I said you didn't have to say anything more, so no thesis necessary.
Calling Zimmerman a racist based on some innocuous comment is pretty weak. Racism does exist, but that statement by Zimmerman is not an example of racism.
okay...in your opinion...would a person make a statement like that if it was a white guy in a hoodie???
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okay...in your opinion...would a person make a statement like that if it was a white guy in a hoodie???
Yes - maybe the guy would be a pedo or some shit like that equaly deserving a beating.
Trayvon would have been dead by 20 regardless.
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Yes - maybe the guy would be a pedo or some shit like that equaly deserving a beating.
Trayvon would have been dead by 20 regardless.
does your stupidity know any bounds???
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okay...in your opinion...would a person make a statement like that if it was a white guy in a hoodie???
Would a person who is obsessed with protecting his neighborhood from thugs like Martin make that statement if Martin was white, I say "yes."
Now if you told me Zimmerman called 911 50 times, and every time (or almost every time) it involved a nonwhite person, then maybe you could draw a reasonable inference.
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i dont think zimm was a racist. I think he was an idiot. He packed a gun and chased someone for no reason. Oh wait, "He looks like hes on drugs OR SOMETHING".
I didnt know I, as a permit holder, could just chase down and accost people because they look like they're on drugs. THis is awesome.
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Doubtful.
You will see this.
Court of YOUR opinion isn't what matters here.
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LMFAO at andre injecting race b/c he called the guy an asshole saying they always get away in an area with multiple break ins and no arrests...
Good lord you moron, tell us all again how blacks voted for obama b/c he was black but race had nothing to do with it ::)
blacks will continue to be doomed in this country as long as there are idiots like you around. You and your type of thinking do more to hold back the black community than white ppl. LMFAO
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LMFAO at andre injecting race b/c he called the guy an asshole saying they always get away in an area with multiple break ins and no arrests...
Good lord you moron, tell us all again how blacks voted for obama b/c he was black but race had nothing to do with it ::)
blacks will continue to be doomed in this country as long as there are idiots like you around. You and your type of thinking do more to hold back the black community than white ppl. LMFAO
says the guy who is obsessed with black people and the black cock
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The Zimmerpigs just can't help themselves, they were always going to have trouble hiding their true feelings and KKK affiliation. It seems they are following the same strategy of the Bladerunner, play the victim and play up the fear of crime.
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says the guy who is obsessed with black people and the black cock
lol great come back...
Way to deflect from your obvious injection of racism into a not racist comment.
Its you retard who sees race and racism everywhere they look. When youre older and a little wiser you will look back at your life and see just how big a fool you have been and how much you yourself held you back.
Mark my words
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The Zimmerpigs just can't help themselves, they were always going to have trouble hiding their true feelings and KKK affiliation. It seems they are following the same strategy of the Bladerunner, play the victim and play up the fear of crime.
rough, rough, grrrrrr.....rough, rough
roll on back to the G&O now gimmick
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lol great come back...
Way to deflect from your obvious injection of racism into a not racist comment.
Its you retard who sees race and racism everywhere they look. When youre older and a little wiser you will look back at your life and see just how big a fool you have been and how much you yourself held you back.
Mark my words
no deflection at all......if you say I am a person who sees racism everywhere then I am an exact opposite of you who sees racism no where and has his head in the sand and (appropriately) his ass in the air
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no deflection at all......if you say I am a person who sees racism everywhere then I am an exact opposite of you who sees racism no where and has his head in the sand and (appropriately) his ass in the air
says the person who feels that a person saying "assholes always get away" in a neighborhood with a break in problem and no arrests a racist.
LMFAO so asshole is now a racist remark, got it ::)
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says the person who feels that a person saying "assholes always get away" in a neighborhood with a break in problem and no arrests a racist.
LMFAO so asshole is now a racist remark, got it ::)
sigh.....your stupidity must be your internet persona...you can't possibly be this dumb in real life....look at the entire situation....the inference is there.....does he have to say the word, nig*ger for you to comprehend that it was a racist act?....Do I believe that Zimmerdumb is racist?...no probably not...but he acted in a way which was predjudicial and racist...he assumed that a black kid wearing a hoodie was doing something wrong...the kid was minding his business.....he followed the kid got his ass kicked and shot the kid...thats not self-defense....he got a good old-fashioned ass whipping....does everyone who carries a gun have a right to pull out said gun and kill someone because he loses a fight?.....and again...does he take that action if the person is white and wearing a hoodie?...I don't think so
again..instead of picking fights with me (which you seem to masurbate to) stop and think and get out of 3333's ass
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sigh.....your stupidity must be your internet persona...you can't possibly be this dumb in real life....look at the entire situation....the inference is there.....does he have to say the word, guy for you to comprehend that it was a racist act?....Do I believe that Zimmerdumb is racist?...no probably not...but he acted in a way which was predjudicial and racist...he assumed that a black kid wearing a hoodie was doing something wrong...the kid was minding his business.....he followed the kid got his ass kicked and shot the kid...thats not self-defense....he got a good old-fashioned ass whipping....does everyone who carries a gun have a right to pull out said gun and kill someone because he loses a fight?.....and again...does he take that action if the person is white and wearing a hoodie?...I don't think so
again..instead of picking fights with me (which you seem to masurbate to) stop and think and get out of 3333's ass
How do you know? If I saw a white hipster progressive twink / dork wearing an Obama hoodie in my hood I would assum he was there for no good too.
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sigh.....your stupidity must be your internet persona...you can't possibly be this dumb in real life....look at the entire situation....the inference is there.....does he have to say the word, guy for you to comprehend that it was a racist act?....Do I believe that Zimmerdumb is racist?...no probably not...but he acted in a way which was predjudicial and racist...he assumed that a black kid wearing a hoodie was doing something wrong...the kid was minding his business.....he followed the kid got his ass kicked and shot the kid...thats not self-defense....he got a good old-fashioned ass whipping....does everyone who carries a gun have a right to pull out said gun and kill someone because he loses a fight?.....and again...does he take that action if the person is white and wearing a hoodie?...I don't think so
again..instead of picking fights with me (which you seem to masurbate to) stop and think and get out of 3333's ass
LOL you stop and think moron, He saw a young black individual at night walking around in an area that had recently had multiple break ins.
what part of wanting to see where he was going makes zimmerman racist?
youre so prejudiced its not even funny
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The idea is that Zimmerman placed himself in the immediate vicinity of Martin, where Martin became aware of the gun, causing him (Martin) to rightfully fight for his life. So a person may need to choose to believe this, or to believe Zimmerman's story.
It is absolutely possible that a jury will simply choose to believe Zimmerman, and reject all else. But the prosecution will try to make it seem that it is a rejection of hard facts to do so.
And while I don't think Zimmerman meets the standard definition of racist, I do believe he will have to rely upon having racists for jurors if he hopes to walk away from this.
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LOL you stop and think moron, He saw a young black individual at night walking around in an area that had recently had multiple break ins.
what part of wanting to see where he was going makes zimmerman racist?
youre so prejudiced its not even funny
wanting to see where he is going is one thing..thats fine...everything else was stupid..and racist...calling me a moron doesn't change that...
and your own inference that him seeing a black person in place where there was a problem with break-ins is racist as well....I guess white guys don't commit break-ins??????..also I guess there were no blacks living there huh???
you are such an internet idiot its amazing....
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wanting to see where he is going is one thing..thats fine...everything else was stupid..and racist...calling me a moron doesn't change that...
and your own inference that him seeing a black person in place where there was a problem with break-ins is racist as well....I guess white guys don't commit break-ins??????..also I guess there were no blacks living there huh???
you are such an internet idiot its amazing....
It is stupid and racist, but if the story is correct, he didn't assault him first.
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fuck race.
It is stupid and racist, but if the story is correct, he didn't assault him first.
If WHOSE story is correct? Zimmerman's? LOL... the man with the smoking gun is hardly capable of telling an unbiased version of events.
The evidence - 911 call - shows trayvon running away, and zimmerman with a gun chasing him. "He's getting away" and "Asshole!" and "Punks always get away with this..."
We don't know who assaulted who first - but we do know who didn't have a gun and ran two blocks to avoid a confrontation.
And even IF trayvon swung first - he could have been in fear for his life. If zimmerman chases me two blocks with a gun, you can bet there isn't a conversation when he loops around building to intercept me. I've run two blocks in the rainy night from armed fat man... i'm scared he's gonna kill me... I fire first to protect my life.
So if trayvon swung to protect himself when busy-body zimmerman comes around corner with gun ton confront him, yes, I swing.
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When Obama was strung out of drugs, coke, chooming, booze and broke he looked like Trayvon
fuck race.
If WHOSE story is correct? Zimmerman's? LOL... the man with the smoking gun is hardly capable of telling an unbiased version of events.
The evidence - 911 call - shows trayvon running away, and zimmerman with a gun chasing him. "He's getting away" and "Asshole!" and "Punks always get away with this..."
We don't know who assaulted who first - but we do know who didn't have a gun and ran two blocks to avoid a confrontation.
And even IF trayvon swung first - he could have been in fear for his life. If zimmerman chases me two blocks with a gun, you can bet there isn't a conversation when he loops around building to intercept me. I've run two blocks in the rainy night from armed fat man... i'm scared he's gonna kill me... I fire first to protect my life.
So if trayvon swung to protect himself when busy-body zimmerman comes around corner with gun ton confront him, yes, I swing.
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fuck race.
If WHOSE story is correct? Zimmerman's? LOL... the man with the smoking gun is hardly capable of telling an unbiased version of events.
The evidence - 911 call - shows trayvon running away, and zimmerman with a gun chasing him. "He's getting away" and "Asshole!" and "Punks always get away with this..."
We don't know who assaulted who first - but we do know who didn't have a gun and ran two blocks to avoid a confrontation.
And even IF trayvon swung first - he could have been in fear for his life. If zimmerman chases me two blocks with a gun, you can bet there isn't a conversation when he loops around building to intercept me. I've run two blocks in the rainy night from armed fat man... i'm scared he's gonna kill me... I fire first to protect my life.
So if trayvon swung to protect himself when busy-body zimmerman comes around corner with gun ton confront him, yes, I swing.
You are having to use "if" a lot... That's not how the system works... There will be a lot of "objection your honor... Speculation."
You don't know that he (Trayvon) saw any gun... You have ZERO evidence to that.
What you do have evidence of is that Trayvon was on top of him beating his ass.
Again... and this is the part where people refuse to act rationally and responsibly... including you here... The evidence is that Trayvon was beating him and got shot.
Murder is the charge... He did not MURDER him... He followed him and maybe scared Trayvon, but there will be NO EVIDENCE of MURDER.
If he's found guilty of MURDER, then the system has failed.
Manslaughter I would give him... no problem... but Murder seems a stretch.
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You are having to use "if" a lot... That's not how the system works... There will be a lot of "objection your honor... Speculation."
You don't know that he (Trayvon) saw any gun... You have ZERO evidence to that.
What you do have evidence of is that Trayvon was on top of him beating his ass.
Again... and this is the part where people refuse to act rationally and responsibly... including you here... The evidence is that Trayvon was beating him and got shot.
Murder is the charge... He did not MURDER him... He followed him and maybe scared Trayvon, but there will be NO EVIDENCE of MURDER.
If he's found guilty of MURDER, then the system has failed.
Manslaughter I would give him... no problem... but Murder seems a stretch.
What would cause you to go for manslaughter, Tu?
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wanting to see where he is going is one thing..thats fine...everything else was stupid..and racist...calling me a moron doesn't change that...
and your own inference that him seeing a black person in place where there was a problem with break-ins is racist as well....I guess white guys don't commit break-ins??????..also I guess there were no blacks living there huh???
you are such an internet idiot its amazing....
I agree whole heartedly it was stupid.
However calling someone an asshole doesnt make you racist, following someone doesnt make you a racist, calling someone an asshole and then following them doesnt make you a racist.
A no you retard describing the individual as black is a DESCRIPTION!!!
there is nothing racist about calling a black person black....
LMFAO WTF?
If a white or mexican kid had been hanging around outside at night with a hoodie on in an area that was known to have break ins without arrests. You think zimmerman would have just let it go?
Like I said you hold yourself back and the black community more than any modern racism does. Whats sad is that you dont even see it, but one day you will.
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What would cause you to go for manslaughter, Tu?
Check out typical definitions of Criminally Negligent Manslaughter (Or criminally Negligent Homicide)
Some jurisdiction use recklessness as a defining item. Zimmerman was certainly reckless.
But it's different depending on the laws in the state... I don't know Florida law specifically.
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Check out typical definitions of Criminally Negligent Manslaughter (Or criminally Negligent Homicide)
Some jurisdiction use recklessness as a defining item. Zimmerman was certainly reckless.
But it's different depending on the laws in the state... I don't know Florida law specifically.
So you'd say recklessness was shown by following Martin, while knowing that possession of the gun could make this a potentially deadly situation?
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It is stupid and racist, but if the story is correct, he didn't assault him first.
the most important word in your post is "if"
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So here's the idea behind it:
"The unlawful killing of a human being, when perpetrated by any act imminently dangerous to another and evincing a depraved mind regardless of human life, although without any premeditated design to effect the death of any particular individual, is murder in the second degree..."
This places pressure on Zimmerman.
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I agree whole heartedly it was stupid.
However calling someone an asshole doesnt make you racist, following someone doesnt make you a racist, calling someone an asshole and then following them doesnt make you a racist.
A no you retard describing the individual as black is a DESCRIPTION!!!
there is nothing racist about calling a black person black....
LMFAO WTF?
If a white or mexican kid had been hanging around outside at night with a hoodie on in an area that was known to have break ins without arrests. You think zimmerman would have just let it go?
Like I said you hold yourself back and the black community more than any modern racism does. Whats sad is that you dont even see it, but one day you will.
so I "hold myself back" because I don't agree with your way-off analysis???...oh brother...I don't see too many white guys in hoodies getting shot accidentally due to misunderstandings
come on and quit the bullshit.......you in your heart know that Trayvon was shot because he was black....his being black set into motion events which wound up costing him his life.....
stop hiding behind your conservative rhetoric, be a man for a change and admit that.....
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so I "hold myself back" because I don't agree with your way-off analysis???...oh brother...I don't see too many white guys in hoodies getting shot accidentally due to misunderstandings
come on and quit the bullshit.......you in your heart know that Trayvon was shot because he was black....his being black set into motion events which wound up costing him his life.....
stop hiding behind your conservative rhetoric, be a man for a change and admit that.....
No - Trayvon was shot because he was scouting the hood for a house to invade. ;D
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No - Trayvon was shot because he was scouting the hood for a house to invade. ;D
I know you believe this in your heart of hearts... ;)
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No - Trayvon was shot because he was scouting the hood for a house to invade. ;D
nope, that's a lie. he was on a direct path to his GF's home.
Zimmerman was the one who went in the opposite direction of his house to interfere with the free actions and movement of another person.
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nope, that's a lie. he was on a direct path to his GF's home.
Zimmerman was the one who went in the opposite direction of his house to interfere with the free actions and movement of another person.
EXACTLY
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andreisdadouche is one of the biggest racists on here.
240 is just a lying asshole whose opinion has no credibility as there is no way to discern just how many lies he is telling in any given post.
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so I "hold myself back" because I don't agree with your way-off analysis???...oh brother...I don't see too many white guys in hoodies getting shot accidentally due to misunderstandings
come on and quit the bullshit.......you in your heart know that Trayvon was shot because he was black....his being black set into motion events which wound up costing him his life.....
stop hiding behind your conservative rhetoric, be a man for a change and admit that.....
I would say that there arent a whole lot of white guys running around at night outside in a neighborhood with multiple break ins with hoodies ::)
youre an idiot b.c you cant fathom a world where black is a descriptive term instead of racism.
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I would say that there arent a whole lot of white guys running around at night outside in a neighborhood with multiple break ins with hoodies ::)
youre an idiot b.c you cant fathom a world where black is a descriptive term instead of racism.
I love this argument because you just dig yourself into a deeper hole...your overt racism is amazing!//i love it!..keep it up! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I guess you're not in America so you wouldn't know, but a lot of white guys wear hoodies here..its a fashion thing now
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I love this argument because you just dig yourself into a deeper hole...your overt racism is amazing!//i love it!..keep it up! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I guess since you're not in America so you wouldn't know, but a lot of white guys wear hoodies here..its a fashion thing now
How the F woud you know. Ony white boys in your hood w hoodies are there to score dope
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How the F woud you know. Ony white boys in your hood w hoodies are there to score dope
you never stop do you?.....to think I mean.
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you never stop do you?.....to think I mean.
You know I am right.
White boys dont wear hoodies unless they are scoring dope or selling
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the most important word in your post is "if"
Funny... It's important for the defense but not the prosecution?
Proof is what's required... Of which it does not appear anyone has any either way.
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The fact that Zimmerman wanted to have Martin questioned, and that he (Zimmerman) was in fact carrying a gun, and that he was directing himself toward Martin, would strongly suggest that Martin was made aware of the gun. Between the possibility of coming aware of it through some other means, or coming aware of it due to Zimmerman purposefully making him aware of it, it is extremely likely that he became aware of the existence of that gun.
You can take this in further, to make it become almost a certain conclusion that Martin became aware of the gun.
But a jury may choose to reject everything except Zimmerman's words, if a route is left open toward doing that.
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By the way, meaning to say that Martin became aware of the gun and responded to it by rightfully fighting for what he thought may be his life.
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i dont give a shit about race. had zimmerman chased me with a gun for 2 blocks in the night, I would have laid down prone and fired upon him, for fear of my life. Anytime a person who isn't a cop chases you 2 blocks in the night for no reason, you have reasonable fear for your safety.
That's bullshit, you wouldn't have been in that position. If you had, you would have just stopped and talked like any decent person.
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I'm curious as to the extent Zimmerman's father (a judge) coached him on his collective statement, particularly on the claim that Martin directly threatened to kill him (before having knowledge of the gun, we can assume it was suggested to have taken place).
Wondering if Zimmerman made that statement in an initial interview with the police...
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Yeah, this gets pretty interesting.
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Is anyone aware of any inconsistencies between Zimmerman's initial interview and subsequent statements? Just wondering.
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That's bullshit, you wouldn't have been in that position. If you had, you would have just stopped and talked like any decent person.
I dunno... when a homeless person (or any person) approaches me in daylight, I answer with my hand on hip and highly encourage him to keep 10 feet back.
Just a stranger appraching me at night, i'm definitely having hand on piece and ready for battle. That same stranger CHASES me for 2 blocks? Shiiiiit...
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Funny... It's important for the defense but not the prosecution?
Proof is what's required... Of which it does not appear anyone has any either way.
I think this is going to be the crux of the situation... can the prosecution prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that Zimmerman went into that situation with the intent to cause Martin injury or death.
I don't think they can.
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I think this is going to be the crux of the situation... can the prosecution prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that Zimmerman went into that situation with the intent to cause Martin injury or death.
I don't think they can.
Fortunately for them, and unfortunately for Zimmerman, they don't need to come anywhere near close to doing that.
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I dunno... when a homeless person (or any person) approaches me in daylight, I answer with my hand on hip and highly encourage him to keep 10 feet back.
Just a stranger appraching me at night, i'm definitely having hand on piece and ready for battle. That same stranger CHASES me for 2 blocks? Shiiiiit...
Do you usually cut through peoples yards? At night for that matter in a neighborhood that's had a string of burglaries?
Zimmerman might be an irresponsible idiot, but that doesn't give anyone the right to physically assault him.
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I dunno... when a homeless person (or any person) approaches me in daylight, I answer with my hand on hip and highly encourage him to keep 10 feet back.
Just a stranger appraching me at night, i'm definitely having hand on piece and ready for battle. That same stranger CHASES me for 2 blocks? Shiiiiit...
This is amusing considering you yourself posted that your trailer park had a neighborhood watch where you and your cronies would walk the neighborhood (while ARMED) and follow people who didn't live there.
You wouldn't do anything and you know it.
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Zimmerman is guiltier than SIN. It doesn't matter if he goes to jail or not, either way, he will get what is coming to him, my only hope is that whoever kills him argues it was SELF DEFENCE and tells the media it was GODS WILL.
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I love this argument because you just dig yourself into a deeper hole...your overt racism is amazing!//i love it!..keep it up! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I guess you're not in America so you wouldn't know, but a lot of white guys wear hoodies here..its a fashion thing now
agreed alot of white guys where hoodies, how many do so while at night in a neighborhood prone to break ins without arrests?
goodness youre a moron
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Zimmerman is guiltier than SIN. It doesn't matter if he goes to jail or not, either way, he will get what is coming to him, my only hope is that whoever kills him argues it was SELF DEFENCE and tells the media it was GODS WILL.
Rough, Rough...no wheel yourself back to the G&O gimmick where your idiocy is tolerated
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Rough, Rough...no wheel yourself back to the G&O gimmick where your idiocy is tolerated
LOL do you mean RUFF, RUFF. And it comes as no surprise that you support a man who repeatedly raped his own family member over the course of a decade.
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I think this is going to be the crux of the situation... can the prosecution prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that Zimmerman went into that situation with the intent to cause Martin injury or death.
I don't think they can.
They dont have to. VERY often, there are cases where 2 people enter an alley, one kills the other... and they RARELY have video of what happened. They look at the evidence and the jurors decide, based upon a nice discussion of the evidence, what they THINK happened. People go to prison all the time without the case being proven "without a shadow of a doubt".
We already know he was pursuing the kid for 2 blocks. We already know the kid was running away. We already know zimm had a pre-determined notion of exactly who trayvon was (incorreectly calling him a burglar)... and based upon his profanity, some will believe he was angry. These facts are not debatable. Zimm's own words tell us this.
Shit man... I'd wager in most "he said, he dead" confrontations, there isn't nearly this much evidence of what events led up to the shooting :)
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fuck race. fuck race. fuck race.
fuck race.
it's about an angry asshole chasing an unarmed kid for 2 blocks, a shooting, then the angry asshole telling us his version of events.
this fucking race bullshit.... clouds the facts... zimm admits trayvon was running away. zimm was the aggressor for 2 blocks in the dark - then SUDDENLY, according only to zimm's word - they BOTH reversed roles and suddenly trayvon went from the scared running teenager to crazy murderous attacker? Oh and zimm went from using profanity, chasing down these punk asssholes, to just a guy on a stroll who feared for his life?
Seriously, anyone who believes this would probably believe their GF coming home from a bukkake party's story about getting hit by a glazed donut truck.
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They dont have to. VERY often, there are cases where 2 people enter an alley, one kills the other... and they RARELY have video of what happened. They look at the evidence and the jurors decide, based upon a nice discussion of the evidence, what they THINK happened. People go to prison all the time without the case being proven "without a shadow of a doubt".
We already know he was pursuing the kid for 2 blocks. We already know the kid was running away. We already know zimm had a pre-determined notion of exactly who trayvon was (incorreectly calling him a burglar)... and based upon his profanity, some will believe he was angry. These facts are not debatable. Zimm's own words tell us this.
Shit man... I'd wager in most "he said, he dead" confrontations, there isn't nearly this much evidence of what events led up to the shooting :)
It's not a "shadow of a doubt".
It's "reasonable doubt" and any REASONABLE person could believe that while Zimmerman was a fool, he was not in fact a murderer... He performed Manslaughter though.
Also, his dad is a judge right?
He knows people... You may want to be on the lookout for things like procedural misconduct on the part of the prosecution and things of that nature.
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It's not a "shadow of a doubt".
It's "reasonable doubt" and any REASONABLE person could believe that while Zimmerman was a fool, he was not in fact a murderer... He performed Manslaughter though.
Also, his dad is a judge right?
He knows people... You may want to be on the lookout for things like procedural misconduct on the part of the prosecution and things of that nature.
correct - the DA way over charged this case to appease Da Community
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Bros, here is the idea behind the charge:
"The unlawful killing of a human being, when perpetrated by any act imminently dangerous to another and evincing a depraved mind regardless of human life, although without any premeditated design to effect the death of any particular individual, is murder in the second degree..."
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Zimmerman simply had to create a dangerous situation, while showing what is a lack of moral respect for life. That's all.
So being a common dipshit becomes legally dangerous when you choose to carry a gun.
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It's not a "shadow of a doubt".
It's "reasonable doubt" and any REASONABLE person could believe that while Zimmerman was a fool, he was not in fact a murderer... He performed Manslaughter though.
Also, his dad is a judge right?
He knows people... You may want to be on the lookout for things like procedural misconduct on the part of the prosecution and things of that nature.
My point exactly, they're charging with him with 2nd degree murder, which means that he went into the encounter with a good idea that the kid would probably die. They have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Zimmerman went into the encounter knowing full well that Martin could wind up dead.
I think there is a reasonable doubt that Zimmerman went into the encounter thinking that Martin could wind up dead.
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LOL do you mean RUFF, RUFF. And it comes as no surprise that you support a man who repeatedly raped his own family member over the course of a decade.
LOL yes...ruff, ruff
and what does whatever your talking about have to do with the situation at hand?
NOTHING!!!!
thanks for playing, now roll on back to the G&O gimmick boy
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Bros, here is the idea behind the charge:
"The unlawful killing of a human being, when perpetrated by any act imminently dangerous to another and evincing a depraved mind regardless of human life, although without any premeditated design to effect the death of any particular individual, is murder in the second degree..."
Murder
The unlawful killing of a human being by another with malice aforethought.
1st Degree Murder: Characterized by premeditation.
2nd Degree Murder: Characterized by a sudden and instantaneous intent to kill or to cause injury without caring whether it kills or not.
They have to prove that he went into the encounter planning to maim or kill Martin. If they charged him with manslaughter or something else, I think he'd be fucked.
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The DA, just like in the Duke LAX case, screwed it up to appease the local racist blacks
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Definition of manslaughter:
The crime of killing a human being without malice aforethought, or otherwise in circumstances not amounting to murder.
Ask yourself... Did ZImmerman show malice BEFORE the shooting?
He called him a punk and an asshole. He chased him. While wearing a gun.
if I'm a juror, I might equate these things with malice.
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so the prosecutor left manslaughter OFF the list of charges? If so, that's pretty big. Defense will bend over to plead to 8 years for manslaughter. Jury will have to choose - should zimm get 20 years or should he be free tomorrow? Do we want 10 million zimmerman's running thru the streets with 9mm, chasing minors who had committed no crime, then "engaging" them leading to shooting?
I think right or wrong, he's fuucked.
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They have to prove that he went into the encounter planning to maim or kill Martin. If they charged him with manslaughter or something else, I think he'd be fucked.
This is what they're working with in this case:
"The unlawful killing of a human being, when perpetrated by any act imminently dangerous to another and evincing a depraved mind regardless of human life, although without any premeditated design to effect the death of any particular individual, is murder in the second degree..."
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so the prosecutor left manslaughter OFF the list of charges? If so, that's pretty big. Defense will bend over to plead to 8 years for manslaughter. Jury will have to choose - should zimm get 20 years or should he be free tomorrow? Do we want 10 million zimmerman's running thru the streets with 9mm, chasing minors who had committed no crime, then "engaging" them leading to shooting?
I think right or wrong, he's fuucked.
The DA FUCKED UP!!!!
When Zimm walks and you are melting down - remember - the DA and the racist black twinks like andre and blacke are to blame
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This is what they're working with in this case:
"The unlawful killing of a human being, when perpetrated by any act imminently dangerous to another and evincing a depraved mind regardless of human life, although without any premeditated design to effect the death of any particular individual, is murder in the second degree..."
You're splitting hairs.
Pre-meditated is generally a thought out plan to kill someone, think going back to the house to get your gun and returning to shoot Martin.
2nd degree would be Zimmerman suddenly deciding that he was going to confront Martin knowing full well that the situation is going to become violent and has a high chance of injury or death.
I think the Prosecution absolutely MUST prove Zimmerman's story about Martin coming back to confront him wrong, or Zimmerman could walk on self defense. If they can't, or if Zimmerman has evidence to support his claim that Martin came up to his truck, Zimm probably has a pretty cut and dried self defense case.
You guys are arguing on a lot of speculation and assumptions, which is fine, but it's impossible to know how that would go over, it would all depend on the type of jurors sitting in the seats at the time.
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Rough, Rough...no wheel yourself back to the G&O gimmick where your idiocy is tolerated
E Kunts Worst Nightmare.jpg... hahah!!! ;D
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I will be in Bronx Supreme tommorow at 9 am , room 705 tommorow, We can discuss this tommorow.
Andre - time to man up twink
Not a fucking chance! ;D ;D
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You're splitting hairs.
Pre-meditated is generally a thought out plan to kill someone, think going back to the house to get your gun and returning to shoot Martin.
2nd degree would be Zimmerman suddenly deciding that he was going to confront Martin knowing full well that the situation is going to become violent and has a high chance of injury or death.
I think the Prosecution absolutely MUST prove Zimmerman's story about Martin coming back to confront him wrong, or Zimmerman could walk on self defense. If they can't, or if Zimmerman has evidence to support his claim that Martin came up to his truck, Zimm probably has a pretty cut and dried self defense case.
You guys are arguing on a lot of speculation and assumptions, which is fine, but it's impossible to know how that would go over, it would all depend on the type of jurors sitting in the seats at the time.
It is exactly what it says it is. The creating of an imminently dangerous situation, revealing a disregard of moral respect for life. A jury simply needs to buy that Zimmerman did that.
If you don't believe it, look up 2nd degree murder for Florida.
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Pre-meditated is generally a thought out plan to kill someone, think going back to the house to get your gun and returning to shoot Martin.
pre-meditated is acting with malice. Did he?
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They don't need to show premeditation, gents.
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It is exactly what it says it is. The creating of an imminently dangerous situation, revealing a disregard of moral respect for life. A jury simply needs to buy that Zimmerman did that.
If you don't believe it, look up 2nd degree murder for Florida.
Ill do that, but I'm pretty sure he has to have some sort of intent to cause injury or death.
And.going by your definition, I don't think that they can prove that either.
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They don't need to show premeditation, gents.
You are completely correct.
Second degree murder is a murder that is not premeditated or planned in advance.
Zimm is charged with 2nd degree murder. how silly of us to be arguing pre-meditation when the prosecutor isn't doing that :)
you're right.
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First degree was planned and deliberate
was contracted
was committed against an identified peace officer
while committing or attempting to commit the hijacking of an aircraft
while committing or attempting to commit sexual assault
while committing or attempting to commit sexual assault with a weapon
while committing or attempting to commit aggravated sexual assault
while committing or attempting to commit kidnapping and forcible confinement
during a hostage taking
while committing criminal harassment
was committed during terrorist activity
while using explosives in association with a criminal organization
while committing intimidation.[6]
Second degree any murder which is not first degree murder
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It's simple as can be, bros. This is the definition:
"The unlawful killing of a human being, when perpetrated by any act imminently dangerous to another and evincing a depraved mind regardless of human life, although without any premeditated design to effect the death of any particular individual, is murder in the second degree..."
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Earth-shattering
I'll call up the defense and let them know!
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You are completely correct.
Second degree murder is a murder that is not premeditated or planned in advance.
Zimm is charged with 2nd degree murder. how silly of us to be arguing pre-meditation when the prosecutor isn't doing that :)
you're right.
The angle will be that Martin was rightfully fighting for his life, due to becoming aware of the gun. I can't see any other way this would be approached.
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Earth-shattering
I'll call up the defense and let them know!
I'm sure they're more aware of it than anyone else.
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You are completely correct.
Second degree murder is a murder that is not premeditated or planned in advance.
Zimm is charged with 2nd degree murder. how silly of us to be arguing pre-meditation when the prosecutor isn't doing that :)
you're right.
I was gonna say, you were the only one talking about pre-meditation there bro.
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Shit has to be a certain way, or it would be too easy to kill without due consequence.
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I was gonna say, you were the only one talking about pre-meditation there bro.
Maybe he got sidetracked when you said this:
They have to prove that he went into the encounter planning to maim or kill Martin. If they charged him with manslaughter or something else, I think he'd be fucked.
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So the exact same reasons why you guys mentioned Manslaughter, will satisfy a Murder in the 2nd.
(but a jury may choose to believe Zimmerman's story, and ignore the rest. No question about it)
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The angle will be that Martin was rightfully fighting for his life, due to becoming aware of the gun. I can't see any other way this would be approached.
I'm sure they'll use that angle, but they still have to prove that Zimmerman wasn't getting the shit kicked out of him, at the time that he started to pull the gun, in addition to proving that Martin did not attack zimmerman first.
If they can't provide pretty substantial evidence that zimmerman initiated the physical confrontation, hell walk on self defense.
If zimmermans story that Martin confronted him holds up, that's all she wrote...
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Maybe he got sidetracked when you said this:
Yeah, I suppose could be misconstrued as talking about premeditation.
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I'm sure they'll use that angle, but they still have to prove that Zimmerman wasn't getting the shit kicked out of him, at the time that he started to pull the gun, in addition to proving that Martin did not attack zimmerman first.
If they can't provide pretty substantial evidence that zimmerman initiated the physical confrontation, hell walk on self defense.
If zimmermans story that Martin confronted him holds up, that's all she wrote...
A juror may believe that Zimmerman placed himself in the vicinity of Martin, where Martin became aware of the gun, and rightfully responded in a violent manner out of fear for his life. It is absolutely believable for several reasons.
On the other hand, a juror may choose to believe Zimmerman.
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If they can't provide pretty substantial evidence that zimmerman initiated the physical confrontation, hell walk on self defense.
If zimmermans story that Martin confronted him holds up, that's all she wrote...
In many cases, they don't have anything but a dead guy, a gun, and a guy lawyering up. And in many of those cases, dude is found guilty without witnesses because he can't really prove why he killed the dude.
In this case... zimm killed a man. The events leading up to the shooting matter a great deal. If they didn't have that 911 call, MAYBE he could claim self defense with the bump and nose. however, the evidence really shows him being the aggressor... he's running after trayvon with a gun - as trayvon tries to escape - seconds before trayvon is killed.
but they still have to prove that Zimmerman wasn't getting the shit kicked out of him, at the time that he started to pull the gun, in addition to proving that Martin did not attack zimmerman first.
Is this true? The prosecutor cannot prove space aliens or ninjas didn't do it either.
I guess I find it hard to believe that I can go out once a week, shoot a man in the heart with no witnesses... come home with a few cuts... and as long as the system can't PROVE i wasn't attacked, I'm free to go?
I guess we'll learn a lot in this case... unless dude pleads to 8 to 11 years and serves 5.
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I wouldn't put it past Zimmerpig causing his own injuries - he truly is a sociopath.
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which court are you being sentenced in?
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In many cases, they don't have anything but a dead guy, a gun, and a guy lawyering up. And in many of those cases, dude is found guilty without witnesses because he can't really prove why he killed the dude.
In this case... zimm killed a man. The events leading up to the shooting matter a great deal. If they didn't have that 911 call, MAYBE he could claim self defense with the bump and nose. however, the evidence really shows him being the aggressor... he's running after trayvon with a gun - as trayvon tries to escape - seconds before trayvon is killed.
Is this true? The prosecutor cannot prove space aliens or ninjas didn't do it either.
I guess I find it hard to believe that I can go out once a week, shoot a man in the heart with no witnesses... come home with a few cuts... and as long as the system can't PROVE i wasn't attacked, I'm free to go?
I guess we'll learn a lot in this case... unless dude pleads to 8 to 11 years and serves 5.
People simply need to believe that Martin became aware of the gun, and it caused him to fight against a threat of serious bodily injury or death.
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They have to prove that he went into the encounter planning to maim or kill Martin. If they charged him with manslaughter or something else, I think he'd be fucked.
He would be... Absolutely... I've been saying this for MONTHS.
He's gonna skate for sure.
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People simply need to believe that Martin became aware of the gun, and it caused him to fight against a threat of serious bodily injury or death.
Or they simply need to believe that Martin attacked him first before he knew there was a gun... and then he goes home a free man.
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i think he might be able to be found guilty of second degree murder
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i think he might be able to be found guilty of second degree murder
It's possible. I still think if they had gone for manslaughter it would be a slam dunk.
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Or they simply need to believe that Martin attacked him first before he knew there was a gun... and then he goes home a free man.
trayvon didn't attack zimm at the entrance to the park - he actually RAN from him.
For zimm's story to be correct, trayvon has to go from what he described as a kid running from him, into a deadly fighting machine attacking him.
At the same time, zimm would have transformed from a profanity-using angry chaser into a harmless guy out for a stroll, attacked by a man threatening to kill him (although the 911 calls didn't record these supposed threats).
Did BOTH of these things simultaneously happen, just seconds after zimm hangs up the phone?
To me, it's a lot more likely that zimm stayed pissed. He went around complex and intercepted trayvon. At that point - trayvon is a minor that was chased two blocks in the night by an armed man... fuck that, he defended himself, no matter who swung first.... a lot of people would have feared for life and fired upon zimmerman... you just don't chase ppl in the dark like that.
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trayvon didn't attack zimm at the entrance to the park - he actually RAN from him.
For zimm's story to be correct, trayvon has to go from what he described as a kid running from him, into a deadly fighting machine attacking him.
At the same time, zimm would have transformed from a profanity-using angry chaser into a harmless guy out for a stroll, attacked by a man threatening to kill him (although the 911 calls didn't record these supposed threats).
Did BOTH of these things simultaneously happen, just seconds after zimm hangs up the phone?
To me, it's a lot more likely that zimm stayed pissed. He went around complex and intercepted trayvon. At that point - trayvon is a minor that was chased two blocks in the night by an armed man... fuck that, he defended himself, no matter who swung first.... a lot of people would have feared for life and fired upon zimmerman... you just don't chase ppl in the dark like that.
We shall see... Again, I'm talking about the charge. Not who was at fault.
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I wonder what it is about a second-degree murder charge in Florida, that would make someone think it's too risky for the prosecutor to take:
"The unlawful killing of a human being, when perpetrated by any act imminently dangerous to another and evincing a depraved mind regardless of human life, although without any premeditated design to effect the death of any particular individual, is murder in the second degree..." (search 2nd degree murder florida, choose your most trusted site)
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I wouldn't put it past Zimmerpig causing his own injuries - he truly is a sociopath.
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Is this the gun model Zimmerman had? Anyone?
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Or they simply need to believe that Martin attacked him first before he knew there was a gun... and then he goes home a free man.
That would be a decision to believe Zimmerman, yes.
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you are the worst fag*got fuck I have ever seen on here..you say things then say you didn';t say them..you imply things then say you didn't....what the fuck is the matter with you, you fucking retard???
again..you must be 3333's even stupider gimmick account you stupid dickface...
stop melting down you dumb fuck and spend some time in the U.S. if you want to know the facts....stop reading half-ass canadian newspapers to get your news...
did you graduate high school???????????????????????
lol...dude you're melting down all over this thread.
Your responses are basically crying racism and name calling.
Can you actually put together a rational, logical argument for why Zimmerman should be convicted?
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lol...dude you're melting down all over this thread.
Your responses are basically crying racism and name calling.
Can you actually put together a rational, logical argument for why Zimmerman should be convicted?
not melting down...just calling him what he really is
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A hem {cough}
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Excuse me?! ...André, ...we really need to talk! >:(
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not melting down...just calling him what he really is
LOL bro I havent changed anything that Ive said, ive simply not let you concentrate on one specific aspect just like you do with the zimmerman case to rationalize your racism idiocy.
I also havent stuck any words in your mouth, you absolutely said that black ppl voted for obama b/c he is black but race had nothing to do with it....
sorry moron, you have quite the reputation around here...
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That would be a decision to believe Zimmerman, yes.
i think from the early part of the 911 call, they will believe he is not a credible man.
"I think he's high on drugs or something".
"He's reaching into his waistband, he has something..."
It's clear to me that ZImmerman was doing everything to could to exaggerate the threat to the 911 operator, so that the police would get there faster. He had no problem essentially "not telling the truth" just to get a suspected bike thief caught faster. So I do think it possible he'd lie thru his fcking teeth in order to avoid a prison sentence, yes :)
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i think from the early part of the 911 call, they will believe he is not a credible man.
"I think he's high on drugs or something".
"He's reaching into his waistband, he has something..."
It's clear to me that ZImmerman was doing everything to could to exaggerate the threat to the 911 operator, so that the police would get there faster. He had no problem essentially "not telling the truth" just to get a suspected bike thief caught faster. So I do think it possible he'd lie thru his fcking teeth in order to avoid a prison sentence, yes :)
Haha, here comes our armchair liar again.
It was night time. Can you verify that he was exaggerating and not just having trouble seeing at NIGHT? Let me guess, you have crystal clear 20/20 night vision.
Your posts get more ridiculous by the day. Quite sad watching you lie through your teeth and just conjure up facts out of thin air. A lawyer you are most definitely not.
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i think from the early part of the 911 call, they will believe he is not a credible man.
"I think he's high on drugs or something".
"He's reaching into his waistband, he has something..."
It's clear to me that ZImmerman was doing everything to could to exaggerate the threat to the 911 operator, so that the police would get there faster. He had no problem essentially "not telling the truth" just to get a suspected bike thief caught faster. So I do think it possible he'd lie thru his fcking teeth in order to avoid a prison sentence, yes :)
Good thing for zimmerman that you're not on the jury, isn't it? Your pre-formulated opinion means jack shit in this case, its going to come down to whether or not the prosecution can "prove" to the jury that Martin wasnt the one that started the physical confrontation, or that Martin was aware of the gun and was fighting for his life, which seems unlikely, most people confronted by a man with a firearm are not going to attempt to assault the man with the gun.
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Good thing for zimmerman that you're not on the jury, isn't it? Your pre-formulated opinion means jack shit in this case, its going to come down to whether or not the prosecution can "prove" to the jury that Martin wasnt the one that started the physical confrontation, or that Martin was aware of the gun and was fighting for his life, which seems unlikely, most people confronted by a man with a firearm are not going to attempt to assault the man with the gun.
Common sense would dictate that since you have a cell phone, you would call someone like I don't know... 911 and tell them some dude is chasing you and you are going into hiding.
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Excuse me?! ...André, ...we really need to talk! >:(
LOL..you're gonna send me to bed without dinner?
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LOL..you're gonna send me to bed without dinner?
Nah, ...only sociopaths use food as a weapon.
No, I'm gonna put you over my knee and spank your little bottom.
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Or worse, ...I will deluge you with the Canadian perspective, to such an extent, you will never ever again even dare to think of using the term as a pejorative.
Now please apologize and pick your punishment.
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Get a room.
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Get a room.
Gladly! :-*
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Get a room.
Gladly! :-*
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Uhhhh... NOPE!
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The DA FUCKED UP!!!!
When Zimm walks and you are melting down - remember - the DA and the racist black twinks like andre and blacke are to blame
Since when did André and blacken suddenly become the District Attorneys in this case? ???
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The DA FUCKED UP!!!!
When Zimm walks and you are melting down - remember - the DA and the racist black twinks like andre and blacke are to blame
This is correct.
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if Zimm is found guilty, then the prosecutor will be viewed as BRILLIANT for not giving the jury the weak indecisive option of manslaughter.
Zimmm will get 20+ years in prison.
AND zimm's team knows this. THey might plead out because they know the jury won't give them 8 years.... only a plea can do that now.
The prosecutor sees a huge pile of evidence that we dont see.
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Your posts makes me believe you're on the verge of tears. Save your crocodile tears for someone else. The only racist here is you with your feigned sympathy for your black brotha. You couldn't care less about all the other black murder victims who were killed by other blacks. It's only the end of the world when a non-black is the aggressor.
Well said. The only racists are the liberals on this site and all over the West that look the other way when an innocent 13 month old white baby is shot in the face in cold blood by a black criminal and dies. They are silent when it is a white victim. Because a white life does not matter to them. Even in the face of whites becoming a precious minority they are silent about it.
If it was a black baby shot in the face you would never hear the end of it. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would be on the news 24/7 and Obama would ask that the flags be hung half mast.
I just don't get it. White people have contributed so much more to the advancement of society and now these liberals are trying to promote blacks at all costs over whites when the evidence is there that it will kill our societies and collapse us into a third world.
You don't see Chinese or Japanese following this moronic approach. They call a spade a spade and are generally open about their racism towards other races. And these are the ones that will survive. Nature has zero respect for political correctness - species and races that put the well being of others above their own go extinct.
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maybe his asshole brother shuold have thought twice about running into an unknown situation with a gun, chasing some kid 2 blocks in the night, when police were a minute away.
blame the media... dont blame the poor decision making of zimmerman. "These assholes always get away with this..." and "He's getting away..."
Total vendetta, angry prick with history of alcohol and battery.
The only one that made a bad decision was the black entity. He decided to escalate the matter and assault Zimmerman. Zimmerman had every right to defend himself. You would have done the same things if you were assaulted.
You will not admit the truth to yourself because you are now so invested in this argument you cannot acknowledge that you were wrong.
Why are we not hearing anything from you about the 13 month old white baby that was shot in the face and the black criminal's family lying about the whereabouts of their spawn?
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if Zimm is found guilty, then the prosecutor will be viewed as BRILLIANT for not giving the jury the weak indecisive option of manslaughter.
Zimmm will get 20+ years in prison.
AND zimm's team knows this. THey might plead out because they know the jury won't give them 8 years.... only a plea can do that now.
The prosecutor sees a huge pile of evidence that we dont see.
Again, another opinion asserted as fact. It's funny how you're not an armchair lawyer. ::)
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You are completely correct.
Second degree murder is a murder that is not premeditated or planned in advance.
Zimm is charged with 2nd degree murder. how silly of us to be arguing pre-meditation when the prosecutor isn't doing that :)
you're right.
Sorry. I meant to answer this earlier, but must have answered another post while quoting you.
They absolutely don't need to show premeditation. I'm not sure what some of these guys on this thread are thinking, lol.