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i'd say 6-7%
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i'd say 6-7%
6-10 and 12 is pushing it condition wise,,,
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6 to 8, I can't see most being comfortable below that for extended periods. You be cold and achy quite a bit. Many would be much more comfortable at 10 -12 for bodybuilding, and you could even edge it up a bit higher for a few other hobbies / sports.
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6 to 8, I can't see most being comfortable below that for extended periods. You be cold and achy quite a bit. Many would be much more comfortable at 10 -12 for bodybuilding, and you could even edge it up a bit higher for a few other hobbies / sports.
yeah,,
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Depends. Is that geared or not? You can be lean as hell on juice and feel just peachy. Like someone else said, natty you get a little achy
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Depends. Is that geared or not? You can be lean as hell on juice and feel just peachy. Like someone else said, natty you get a little achy
low dosed geared
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at 6% things start to get realy complicated for social life, whenever i hit 6% i stop dieting right there.doesnt mean i go and get fat, i just go easier on diet.
the hungryness, the pissing all the time, the water and diet sodas drinking to keep hunger in check,those all get to ridiulous levels.the ffeling weak and permanent tiredness dont help either.
so yeah, between 6-8,in a way.
why do you have to piss more often at low bf levels? ???
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when you guys think you are at 6% go get your bodyfat tested so that you understand what you're talking about. I'd like to see anyone natural able to maintain real 6% bodyfat indefinitely, and not Internet estimated 6%. I think a lot of people misjudge their own bodyfat.
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I know that around 5-7% natural I always feel like crap. Mentally it sucks, but I can still do my job, which is about a thousand times more complex mentally than 99% of other jobs out there. I have no clue geared.
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I know that around 5-7% natural I always feel like crap. Mentally it sucks, but I can still do my job, which is about a thousand times more complex mentally than 99% of other jobs out there. I have no clue geared.
i'm intrigued. please do tell what type of work is this
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hahaha I love people who think they can get to 5 % natural ;D
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8% natural
At 7 and 6% I felt daily strong lethargy
at 8% I am a lot stronger, feel healthier, need less sleep and even my cardio improved
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i'm intrigued. please do tell what type of work is this
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Did zyzz die from being too lean all the time or some shit like that?..might be wrong though
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Did zyzz die from being too lean all the time or some shit like that?..might be wrong though
I can't remember exactly but I think he died from drugs. Not bodybuilding drugs but party drugs.
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Did zyzz die from being too lean all the time or some shit like that?..might be wrong though
iirc he died in a thai sauna
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Look in the mirror if ripped and in contest shape maybe a month otherwise 8-10%. Being in extreme condition works on the central nervous system including brain function.
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I can't remember exactly but I think he died from drugs. Not bodybuilding drugs but party drugs.
All combined put too much pressure on his heart. Gear, E, Coke, Xanax, etc. he was trying to stay that lean all the time, a few pics right before his death showed he couldn't hold it and was holding a lot of water, body probably stopped responding.
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Did zyzz die from being too lean all the time or some shit like that?..might be wrong though
He had a heart defect (which he knew about) and he was on diuretics, legal and illegal stimulants, booze, party drugs and a ton gear AND went to SAUNA...
Look in the mirror if ripped and in contest shape maybe a month otherwise 8-10%. Being in extreme condition works on the central nervous system including brain function.
Agreed.
BTW. Low bf levels are only impressive if you have the size to go with it.
low dosed geared
Are you on "real gear" or still on superdrol? If you're still on superdrol have you checked your liver values?
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He had a heart defect (which he knew about) and he was on diuretics, legal and illegal stimulants, booze, party drugs and a ton gear AND went to SAUNA...
Agreed.
BTW. Low bf levels are only impressive if you have the size to go with it.
Are you on "real gear" or still on superdrol? If you're still on superdrol have you checked your liver values?
still on superdrol and i basically just take 10 mg on workout days ie. 4-5 days per week and i take a full week off every 6 weeks or so
yeah i had a complete blood profile back in november and everything checked out ok :) (and back then i was on 20 mg per day 3 weeks on/1 week off)
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Look in the mirror if ripped and in contest shape maybe a month otherwise 8-10%. Being in extreme condition works on the central nervous system including brain function.
i don't buy this man
i've @ sub-7 for well over 6 months a few different times with no ill effects
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i don't buy this man
i've @ sub-7 for well over 6 months a few different times with no ill effects
So why did you ask the question then?
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still on superdrol and i basically just take 10 mg on workout days ie. 4-5 days per week and i take a full week off every 6 weeks or so
yeah i had a complete blood profile back in november and everything checked out ok :) (and back then i was on 20 mg per day 3 weeks on/1 week off)
So you have been on steroids for 6 months and you are still afraid to post a pic......LOL
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So why did you ask the question then?
just curious what others thought about it
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What do you mean by "function" normally for the long term ?
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What do you mean by "function" normally for the long term ?
like not being hungry and irritable (possibly for not ideal hormonal functioning) and not being prone to nagging injuries
it's rather well known that females need to not stay under 12% in order for their proper hormonal functioning
from what i've read essential fat for men is 3% but who the fuck even ever hits 3%
when i was @ sub-7 for extended periods of time i was very active running 2-3 miles per day 5-6 days per week and lifting 5-6 days per week as well, and at that time i ate junk ie. fries, cheesburgers, pizzas, etc
but i didn't eat ALOT of that junk, maybe a big mac and medium fry and medium coke and then 2 tacos later on in the day
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still on superdrol and i basically just take 10 mg on workout days ie. 4-5 days per week and i take a full week off every 6 weeks or so
yeah i had a complete blood profile back in november and everything checked out ok :) (and back then i was on 20 mg per day 3 weeks on/1 week off)
Those check ups are WAY more important then people realize, you can look good and even feel good and still be unhealthy. Friend of mine had a close call recently but the doc caught it in time.
BTW you do realize that even though methyl masteron (superdrol) definitely works, just a low dose of straight test would be better for you in the long run.
i don't buy this man
i've @ sub-7 for well over 6 months a few different times with no ill effects
Size has a lot to do with it. My brother is an endurance athlete (smaller guy) and he has no visible fat...
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Those check ups are WAY more important then people realize, you can look good and even feel good and still be unhealthy. Friend of mine had a close call recently but the doc caught it in time.
BTW you do realize that even though methyl masteron (superdrol) definitely works, just a low dose of straight test would be better for you in the long run.
Size has a lot to do with it. My brother is an endurance athlete (smaller guy) and he has no visible fat...
interesting what you say about size there
so do you think more massive guys can't stay at and handle low bodyfat levels as well as slimmer guys can?
i never really thought about it that way, but you could have a very good and valid point actaully
and yeah i know that test would be a better choice for me, but i just refuse to inject
maybe i'll try turnibol sometime soon though or even var
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like not being hungry and irritable (possibly for not ideal hormonal functioning) and not being prone to nagging injuries
Yeah I know what you mean...I get lethargy, mood swings, lowered libido, lower quality of sleep and those god awful cravings to binge.
It has to be different for everyone ...a permabulker will start to feel these effects a lot sooner than someone who stays lean all the time.
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hahaha I love people who think they can get to 5 % natural ;D
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Yeah I know what you mean...I get lethargy, mood swings, lowered libido, lower quality of sleep and those god awful cravings to binge.
It has to be different for everyone ...a permabulker will start to feel these effects a lot sooner than someone who stays lean all the time.
in my experience this happens while ones getting lean/ripped due to the low cals, but then once the ideal bodyfat level is reached it gets much easier coz you can go back up to higher cals and maintain your low level of bodyfat
for example i'll have to go down to 1500-1800 cals to get ripped but then once i'm @ 6-7% then i can go back up to 2500-2800 and stay @ 6-7% or at least i sure as hell hope so lol
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isnt it tiresome when ppl "know better" bc they heard it from gh15? ::)
Yeah , but DJ181 looks 10X better than you ,I hope this helps.
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interesting what you say about size there
so do you think more massive guys can't stay at and handle low bodyfat levels as well as slimmer guys can?
and yeah i know that test would be a better choice for me, but i just refuse to inject
Absolutely yes.
PS. Injecting is nothing after you've done it a few times.
luloamies, always wanted to say, i find your contributions very valueable and always enjoyed reading them, long before i joined here,btw.
Thanks man!
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in my experience this happens while ones getting lean/ripped due to the low cals, but then once the ideal bodyfat level is reached it gets much easier coz you can go back up to higher cals and maintain your low level of bodyfat
for example i'll have to go down to 1500-1800 cals to get ripped but then once i'm @ 6-7% then i can go back up to 2500-2800 and stay @ 6-7% or at least i sure as hell hope so lol
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I can now cut on 2600 and maintain on 2600-3200 without any fat gain.
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in my experience this happens while ones getting lean/ripped due to the low cals, but then once the ideal bodyfat level is reached it gets much easier coz you can go back up to higher cals and maintain your low level of bodyfat
for example i'll have to go down to 1500-1800 cals to get ripped but then once i'm @ 6-7% then i can go back up to 2500-2800 and stay @ 6-7% or at least i sure as hell hope so lol
Increasing calories definitely helps me mood wise but until I get a little higher in bf I still have the other symptoms I mentioned. The body fights you and wants to put on fat so it can function the way it normally does. People talk about a set point and being able to re establish that and I think there is some truth to that. After maintaining a certain bodyfat level for a long time I think your body will adapt. For me going under 7% is when the problems usually start now...before it was much higher.
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Increasing calories definitely helps me mood wise but until I get a little higher in bf I still have the other symptoms I mentioned. The body fights you and wants to put on fat so it can function the way it normally does. People talk about a set point and being able to re establish that and I think there is some truth to that. After maintaining a certain bodyfat level for a long time I think your body will adapt. For me going under 7% is when the problems usually start now...before it was much higher.
there could be something to this set point theory
when i was a punkass in high school i was a avid track and cross country man and i was ripped for 4 years straight weighing all of 128-135 @ 5'11" :D :D :D
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there could be something to this set point theory
when i was a punkass in high school i was a avid track and cross country man and i was ripped for 4 years straight weighing all of 128-135 @ 5'11" :D :D :D
massive
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yup, i said above i feel the same.when the body has fat on it, low calories seems like no problem whatsoever.
Yeah and your comment about being able to eat very little when one is fat is so true. Also, even the people who recommend a "refeed" advise them to ones who are already lean and the leaner he/she is the more frequent they should be.
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I can't remember exactly but I think he died from drugs. Not bodybuilding drugs but party drugs.
His brother said he was in a massage parlor and told the masseuse he needed to sit down for a minute and was feeling light headed...she came back and he never woke up again. He was on coke in thailand for sure but his brother won't release the info on what else was in his blood. He also said at one point that zyzz's body was bruised and bloody...don't know what came of that
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