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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Sherief Shalaby on March 31, 2013, 12:07:37 PM
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Really fruit ass picture, bro. But good improvements.
With all of the recent deaths and health scares, it wouldn't hurt to pay attention to our cardiovascular health. I've been doing real cardio a lot lately. I feel a million times better. It's never too late.
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gtfo
cardio
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Honestly I've been doing a ton more, including a lot of boxing stuff. Feels good not getting winded after a single 3 min round.
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definite improvement, less fat more muscle
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Nasser would be proud.
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How much cardio? High or low intensity?
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thank you all 8)
when i started cardio last august i was doing it 4-5 times a week.. fast walking or running or swimming..
now as i am very close to my target weight i do cardio only 2 days a week and sometimes 3.. i run 6 kilos "about 3.5 miles" in 30 minutes in the open air.. when i can run them in 25 minuets i will make the distance 7 kilos..
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thank you all 8)
when i started cardio last august i was doing it 4-5 times a week.. fast walking or running or swimming..
now as i am very close to my target weight i do cardio only 2 days a week and sometimes 3.. i run 6 kilos "about 3.5 miles" in 30 minutes in the open air.. when i can run them in 25 minuets i will make the distance 7 kilos..
Good progress is Jimmy swimming too?
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Honestly I've been doing a ton more, including a lot of boxing stuff. Feels good not getting winded after a single 3 min round.
yes boxing is best cardio super set with sprints
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Good progress is Jimmy swimming too?
no.. dogs are not allowed to swim in the pool i swim in.. my friends in the coastal cities take their dogs to swim in the sea but here in cairo there is no chance..
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stop the heme-iron sheriff
any tool can get inshape eating meat
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stop the heme-iron sheriff
any tool can get inshape eating meat
why should i?..
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thank you all 8)
when i started cardio last august i was doing it 4-5 times a week.. fast walking or running or swimming..
now as i am very close to my target weight i do cardio only 2 days a week and sometimes 3.. i run 6 kilos "about 3.5 miles" in 30 minutes in the open air.. when i can run them in 25 minuets i will make the distance 7 kilos..
I also have been doing cardio regularly and I'm planning to do it on a weekly basis year round. I jog 30-45 min, 3-4 times a week, I could do more but I think at the long run it would become annoying so I'll stick up with my plan :D. And yeah, cardio definitely makes a difference.
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why should i?..
this is minimal effort research on my part to help you , im already aware of the whole enchilada of things
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=443620.25
www.livestrong.com/article/473732-iron-cancer/
cancerpreventionresearch .aacrjournals.org/content/4/2/177.full
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21209396
ejtcm.com/2011/03/18/iron-and-cancer-2/
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22952183\
ukhcforums.uky.edu/forums/blogs/.../09/.../iron-and-cancer-risk.aspx
cebp.aacrjournals.org/content/16/6/1306.full
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stop the heme-iron sheriff
any tool can get inshape eating meat
food that walks is good
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I also have been doing cardio regularly and I'm planning to do it on a weekly basis year round. I jog 30-45 min, 3-4 times a week, I could do more but I think at the long run it would become annoying so I'll stick up with my plan :D. And yeah, cardio definitely makes a difference.
very good and yes more than 45 min is too much especially you do it 3-4 times a week.. when i feel my energy if good my goal is always to run the same distance in a shorter time.. running is somehow an addiction lol..
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food that walks is good
My food shits on Johnny's food. :)
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Most people forget that the heart is one of the most important muscles in the body.
Cardio is essential for everyone.
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Most people forget that the heart is one of the most important muscles in the body.
Cardio is essential for everyone.
It IS the most important muscle. I got swept up in the hardcore bodybuilding mentality, but in the last couple of years I've started to meet doctors and nurses and really realized how important it is. Been training and hiking with a cardiologist and he says a lot of younger people come into the ER over acute cardiovascular issues. Lots of young folks that you'd otherwise assume were really healthy, but obviously false assumptions.
It can happen to anyone, and the risk is exponentially greater when you live a high-risk lifestyle and abuse PEDs thinking that you're invincible. Doing cardio will keep your heart in good health and keep you lean, so there are huge incentives to throw it into the mix ranging from actual IMPORTANT reasons right down to pure vanity. It should appeal to everyone, but I guess not.
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It IS the most important muscle. I got swept up in the hardcore bodybuilding mentality, but in the last couple of years I've started to meet doctors and nurses and really realized how important it is. Been training and hiking with a cardiologist and he says a lot of younger people come into the ER over acute cardiovascular issues. Lots of young folks that you'd otherwise assume were really healthy, but obviously false assumptions.
It can happen to anyone, and the risk is exponentially greater when you live a high-risk lifestyle and abuse PEDs thinking that you're invincible. Doing cardio will keep your heart in good health and keep you lean, so there are huge incentives to throw it into the mix ranging from actual IMPORTANT reasons right down to pure vanity. It should appeal to everyone, but I guess not.
are these younger folks who show up at the er over heart issues fatasses?
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sherieff check the links man
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are these younger folks who show up at the er over heart issues fatasses?
Not all of them; about an even mix. The heart beats around the clock and takes a lot of punishment if you think about it. If you throw stimulants into the mix, abuse AAS or let yourself accumulate an ocean of water because you're intoxicated by the sight of your humongous fatceps then you're introducing yourself to an extreme amount of danger.
I'm not saying that I don't take ephedrine, AAS and all that fun stuff but you can use it safely without any more effort. But people just don't care... they slam a handful of Anadrol, slam ephedrine/Brokaid, take grams of test and aromatizing steroids and puff their fatceps and moobs in the mirror thinking they've got mountains of shredded muscle.
I don't understand why these people don't structure cycles a bit better, keep an eye on the waistline and their water retention and save their health and a whole lot of money in the process - not to mention LOOK BETTER! I guess delusion and bodybuilding are synonymous and go together like peas on a pod. :-\
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Not all of them; about an even mix. The heart beats around the clock and takes a lot of punishment if you think about it. If you throw stimulants into the mix, abuse AAS or let yourself accumulate an ocean of water because you're intoxicated by the sight of your humongous fatceps then you're introducing yourself to an extreme amount of danger.
I'm not saying that I don't take ephedrine, AAS and all that fun stuff but you can use it safely without any more effort. But people just don't care... they slam a handful of Anadrol, slam ephedrine/Brokaid, take grams of test and aromatizing steroids and puff their fatceps and moobs in the mirror thinking they've got mountains of shredded muscle.
I don't understand why these people don't structure cycles a bit better, keep an eye on the waistline and their water retention and save their health and a whole lot of money in the process - not to mention LOOK BETTER! I guess delusion and bodybuilding are synonymous and go together like peas on a pod. :-\
nobody wants to suffer that's why
strict dieting and training hard day in and day out is suffering
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nobody wants to suffer that's why
strict dieting and training hard day in and day out is suffering
Not even, man. Walking around and always feeling like you have to shit is suffering. Taking tons of steroids and feeling like your head is going to explode is also suffering. It can be done with a LOT more finesse. You'll feel better, look better and save money.
The older guys who used to say positive shit like "bodybuilding is a marathon, not a race" were right. They're not running into problems well into their golden years. But then you see cats from the younger generation with exploding aortas and liver/kidney failure, or even death... hmm. It incites a bit of reflection, don't you agree?
Also, not trying to vilify PEDs in the least. If they were side affect free and cheaper, I would love to abuse them all day long. But some people like myself can't tolerate them very well, which is probably more of a blessing than anything.
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Not even, man. Walking around and always feeling like you have to shit is suffering. Taking tons of steroids and feeling like your head is going to explode is also suffering. It can be done with a LOT more finesse. You'll feel better, look better and save money.
The older guys who used to say positive shit like "bodybuilding is a marathon, not a race" were right. They're not running into problems well into their golden years. But then you see cats from the younger generation with exploding aortas and liver/kidney failure, or even death... hmm. It incites a bit of reflection, don't you agree?
Also, not trying to vilify PEDs in the least. If they were side affect free and cheaper, I would love to abuse them all day long. But some people like myself can't tolerate them very well, which is probably more of a blessing than anything.
i can't really say much from the gear side of it, since i'm only on a low dose protocol and i ain't gonna ever go higher
i've never been into this concept of being massive, my gig is being sleek and cat-like, like that dude in my avi ;D
how high did you take your doses if i can ask?
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Take a look at CSwole's pics.
That guys heart is overtaxing itself greatly. Prime example right there on why not to abuse AAS and do cardio.
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i can't really say much from the gear side of it, since i'm only on a low dose protocol and i ain't gonna ever go higher
i've never been into this concept of being massive, my gig is being sleek and cat-like, like that dude in my avi ;D
how high did you take your doses if i can ask?
I started lowering my test dosage and normally stay around 50mg EOD, with 100mg of tren and 100mg of mast alongside. If I can, I'll pull the test right out and sometimes even go a bit lower. Feels weird to cut test out entirely (I feel high or something), but I'm one of those people who can't tolerate the biggest dose. I went up to a gram once and felt okay for a few days, then my back exploded in cystic acne, which I've never had in my life, and my head felt like it was going to explode. I get chronic migraines so I keep an eye on my blood pressure anyway, and anything that gets it to jump up I like to cut out and stop doing.
For ephedrine, three 8mg tabs three or four times a day with 100mg or 200mg of caffeine, depends on whatever the supplement store has on hand. I run two bottles and stop for a couple weeks. Each bottle is 50 tabs, so just a couple week cycles before I get sick of it.
Take a look at CSwole's pics.
That guys heart is overtaxing itself greatly. Prime example right there on why not to abuse AAS and do cardio.
He's got a fine hue to his skin colour... falls somewhere between a gentle penis-purple to maybe a soft manhood-magenta. Don't be cruel towards the guy!
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Weight training works the heart. Check your heart rate after a set of squats. If you do an hour long full body workout you heart rate is constantly elevated during this. How is walking for an hour better than this? Doing the big compound lifts with short rest periods is like a form of HIIT.
Maybe this doesn't apply to steroid abusers who's bodies are in an unnatural state.
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sherieff check the links man
bro. i seriously see no point to be vegetarian.. sure one should not eat read meat every day but this doesnt mean not to eat it at all.. i like to enjoy all HALAL food :P
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my cardio is sex :D
and clubbing,ofc.one leads to the other, so thats double cardio 8)
as for sherief, heres something:
you couldve spared yourself the cardio and instead just took more walks and eat less.
i walk a lot.. i like walking.. any place i want to go alone and it takes one hour or less "going and returning" i walk.. this is beside walking my dog most of the days..
as for eating less,.. this is the point,.. why to eat less since you can achieve the shape you want without eating less?.. my target is to be 70 kilos with very good strength for my weight and i cant keep good strength without enough amount of carbohydrates..
remember the pics i sent to you when i was 66 kg and like 6 PCT bf?.. i achieved this without any cardio but was nearly eating no carbohydrates at all.. cant do this forever.. the best is to eat enough quantities from everything.. so when i lose fats i do it in a healthy way,.. it takes more time but makes you look healthier and keeps most of your strength.. especially when you are natural you cant be harsh on your body..
one last thing is that i love running,.. it doesnt make me tired or bored :P.. also when i think that when i started running last august i was jogging 5 kilos in more than 30 minutes and now i run 6 kilos in 30 minutes i sure think that i now live with a stronger heart.. running is good for many reasons not only to burn calories..
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Yes cardio is very important to overall health..no point in building the outer body when the motor is weak...45 mins 3/4 times a week is perfect..look good and feel good is my motto. ;D
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Yes cardio is very important to overall health..no point in building the outer body when the motor is weak...45 mins 3/4 times a week is perfect..look good and feel good is my motto. ;D
yes very true.. my motto is,.. before i take a shower i must shit first,.. no point to be clean from the outside and shitty from the core ;D
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Walking and running with Jimmy would be good to, if it's not to hot for him :)
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Yes cardio is very important to overall health..no point in building the outer body when the motor is weak...45 mins 3/4 times a week is perfect..look good and feel good is my motto. ;D
QFT, the heart is the most important muscle. A lot of bodybuilders won't train it because they can't show it off.
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QFT, the heart is the most important muscle. A lot of bodybuilders won't train it because they can't show it off.
Who's got time when you're trying to etch groves into your glutes and really cinch up those glute-ham tie-ins?" ;D
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truth be told, the heart gets some work and stimulation from just regular weight-training
do a heavy set of squats for 15 or so reps til failure and then tell me that your heart ain't working
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good improvements & against expections quality thread after simple attention whoring.
but because this is getbig, i've to say 73kilos is a good weight ... for a 13 year old boy.
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truth be told, the heart gets some work and stimulation from just regular weight-training
do a heavy set of squats for 15 or so reps til failure and then tell me that your heart ain't working
You shouldn't write off doing real cardio though. Big difference between specifically training aerobically and anaerobically. Don't make the classic permabulker mistake.
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good improvements & against expections quality thread after simple attention whoring.
but because this is getbig, i've to say 73kilos is a good weight ... for a 13 year old boy. lifetime natural who is 171 cm..
fixed for truth..
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Weight training works the heart. Check your heart rate after a set of squats. If you do an hour long full body workout you heart rate is constantly elevated during this. How is walking for an hour better than this? Doing the big compound lifts with short rest periods is like a form of HIIT.
Maybe this doesn't apply to steroid abusers who's bodies are in an unnatural state.
if you can squat you can at least jog a couple miles
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truth be told, the heart gets some work and stimulation from just regular weight-training
do a heavy set of squats for 15 or so reps til failure and then tell me that your heart ain't working
yes but you are not continuously working. weight training and squats donīt condition you like running... itīs the opposite, run 3x a week and tell me if you donīt have more stamina for squats and deadlifts. More stamina in the Gym makes for more efficient and better workouts.
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I also do cardio 6 times a week, 3 days of real cardio no walking on treadmill stuff...good job Sherrief
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yes but you are not continuously working. weight training and squats donīt condition you like running... itīs the opposite, run 3x a week and tell me if you donīt have more stamina for squats and deadlifts. More stamina in the Gym makes for more efficient and better workouts.
i'm talking about optimum heart health here, not being competitively fit (by the way, i ran a sub 2 min half mile in high school, so i know a bit about being competitively fit ;))
according to Dr. Doug McGuff, hit weight-training provides sufficient work for optimum heart health
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we are not talking about when you were in High school...we are talking now. As you age you should work your heart because itīs more important NOW.. not as kid. I do not believe your ruck sack push ups, DB squats and what ever you do will be enough. .. but hey.. you make sure you buy his Book... ;) I am not intrested in how fast someone can run a mile, got nothing to do with it. I have run over assault courses, miles over cross country with weight donīt even go there. seen too many guys who were not fit falling around and throwing up and failing fitness runs. I as i wrote boxed too in the Army, you think doing a hit workout or what this guy says would help you in a ring...BS.
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we are not talking about when you were in High school...we are talking now. As you age you should work your heart because itīs more important NOW.. not as kid. I do not believe your ruck sack push ups, DB squats and what ever you do will be enough. .. but hey.. you make sure you buy his Book... ;) I am not intrested in how fast someone can run a mile, got nothing to do with it. I have run over assault courses, miles over cross country with weight donīt even go there. seen too many guys who were not fit falling around and throwing up and failing fitness runs. I as i wrote boxed too in the Army, you think doing a hit workout or what this guy says would help you in a ring...BS.
where's your pics?
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where's your pics?
whereīs your argument ?
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i'm talking about optimum heart health here, not being competitively fit (by the way, i ran a sub 2 min half mile in high school, so i know a bit about being competitively fit ;))
according to Dr. Doug McGuff, hit weight-training provides sufficient work for optimum heart health
And according to a million other physicians and cardiologists, it's not enough.
This isn't risking spilling over and losing abdominal definition for a beach party, this is a discussion about your heart health, arguably one of the most important health aspects you could ever consider. Cancer, diabeetus and cardiovascular disease are the top killers in the developed world. Why not give up the search for a justification to not do any sort of cardio, and just do some sort of fucking cardio?
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And according to a million other physicians and cardiologists, it's not enough.
This isn't risking spilling over and losing abdominal definition for a beach party, this is a discussion about your heart health, arguably one of the most important health aspects you could ever consider. Cancer, diabeetus and cardiovascular disease are the top killers in the developed world. Why not give up the search for a justification to not do any sort of cardio, and just do some sort of fucking cardio?
but the thing is... i'm not saying that i agree with him, i'm just putting another point-of-view out there for discussion
according to my exercise science studies that i partook in at university cardio 3 times per week for 20 minutes at 60-70% intensity is ideal for heart health
so what do you think is ideal for heart health cardio wise? and what do the majority of cardiologists say?
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but the thing is... i'm not saying that i agree with him, i'm just putting another point-of-view out there for discussion
according to my exercise science studies take i partook in at university cardio 3 times per week for 20 minutes at 60-70% intensity is ideal for heart health
so what do you think is ideal for heart health cardio wise? and what do the majority of cardiologists say?
It's something you shouldn't round down and try writing off. If anything, do extra because it's not going to hurt unless you're an Auschwitz-looking cardio addict. The whole "don't sweat it" attitude is a dangerous one.
I don't believe in cookie cutter advice either. Myself, I try to get outside with my dogs and run around the hiking trails here. I live a bit of a sedentary work lifestyle being tethered to a desk for 8 hours at one job and a couple hours a day at another job I do from home, so any chance I get I like to go outside and run around. Even if it's just chasing my dogs in the backyard for 20 minutes. It's not something I think you can quantify exactly and I hate giving specific guidelines, but it's something you can easily titrate by looking at your waistline, what you typically do in a day and how winded or energetic you feel when you exercise. If you're sucking back wind like a vacuum, you could probably benefit from more.
The cardiologists I know just think people have abhorrent cardiovascular knowledge. I'm not an expert, but I at least try minding it which is a lot more than what others do. They tell me that they're seeing younger and younger people with a ton more arterial plaques, low HDL, high LDL and triglycerides, tons of fat, tons of edema, participate in many negative activities that destroy cardiovascular health including but not limited to smoking, blowing coke on the weekends and eating a shitty diet, etc. Nothing extraordinary or unknown, just things that people don't care to mind for some reason.
I want to be running around with my kids and grandkids. I don't want to be sucking on an oxygen tank because I was too obsessed with being swole and flexing my fatceps in the mirror everyday thinking I'm a sexy beast.
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Improved a lot Sherief.
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Improved a lot Sherief.
thx bro..
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this is a very good read and how it gives ideas how to mix your cardio up from 10 min vigorous activity(for you hit guys) and 20-30 min lower intensity. A good simply explained read. I have always went on the 3x30 Min's a week protocol myself, although i do 40/45 Min's mostly 3-4 times a week at about 65-80% my maximum heart rate(i do interval training, changing my pace) also the distance i run plays a part on my heart rate too.
http://www.kines.uiuc.edu/kines-courses/kin452-ellenevans/KIN452_F07/ACSM_AHA_2007Guidelines_Haskell_MSSE.pdf
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i'm talking about optimum heart health here, not being competitively fit (by the way, i ran a sub 2 min half mile in high school, so i know a bit about being competitively fit ;))
according to Dr. Doug McGuff, hit weight-training provides sufficient work for optimum heart health
So....who cares? Everyone did something special in high school when they weighed buck twenty.
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this is a very good read and how it gives ideas how to mix your cardio up from 10 min vigorous activity(for you hit guys) and 20-30 min lower intensity. A good simply explained read. I have always went on the 3x30 Min's a week protocol myself, although i do 40/45 Min's mostly 3-4 times a week at about 65-80% my maximum heart rate(i do interval training, changing my pace) also the distance i run plays a part on my heart rate too.
http://www.kines.uiuc.edu/kines-courses/kin452-ellenevans/KIN452_F07/ACSM_AHA_2007Guidelines_Haskell_MSSE.pdf
thanks for that article dude
but the question is... how many people in the general public actually follow and do these guidelines/recommendations?
i'd say less than 5%
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It's something you shouldn't round down and try writing off. If anything, do extra because it's not going to hurt unless you're an Auschwitz-looking cardio addict. The whole "don't sweat it" attitude is a dangerous one.
I don't believe in cookie cutter advice either. Myself, I try to get outside with my dogs and run around the hiking trails here. I live a bit of a sedentary work lifestyle being tethered to a desk for 8 hours at one job and a couple hours a day at another job I do from home, so any chance I get I like to go outside and run around. Even if it's just chasing my dogs in the backyard for 20 minutes. It's not something I think you can quantify exactly and I hate giving specific guidelines, but it's something you can easily titrate by looking at your waistline, what you typically do in a day and how winded or energetic you feel when you exercise. If you're sucking back wind like a vacuum, you could probably benefit from more.
The cardiologists I know just think people have abhorrent cardiovascular knowledge. I'm not an expert, but I at least try minding it which is a lot more than what others do. They tell me that they're seeing younger and younger people with a ton more arterial plaques, low HDL, high LDL and triglycerides, tons of fat, tons of edema, participate in many negative activities that destroy cardiovascular health including but not limited to smoking, blowing coke on the weekends and eating a shitty diet, etc. Nothing extraordinary or unknown, just things that people don't care to mind for some reason.
I want to be running around with my kids and grandkids. I don't want to be sucking on an oxygen tank because I was too obsessed with being swole and flexing my fatceps in the mirror everyday thinking I'm a sexy beast.
Very good post my friend. Healthy outlook on life and the right thing to do. May you live a long and prosperous life.