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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: BiG_Bob on April 01, 2013, 09:04:41 PM
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Can I drop bf and get lean on 500mg of test
How long should I run this cycle
How long do I need pct after my cycle
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Yes.....500 aint shit..youll be fine...
What ester test?
Is that all your gonna run?!
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Yes.....500 aint shit..youll be fine...
What ester test?
Is that all your gonna run?!
It's test cyp 250. I will be taking this alone.
I have nolva for pct I would like to run as long as safely possible
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You can stay on that for the rest of your life. ;)
But 12 to 16 would be fine.
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But if your worried about it....run a fast ester test like propionate.
But I would not recommend just running test.
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But if your worried about it....run a fast ester test like propionate.
But I would not recommend just running test.
I'm not trying to get huge. I just wanna push past this plateau I'm having and relieve some joint pain. Also this should help with fat loss
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It's test cyp 250. I will be taking this alone.
I have nolva for pct I would like to run as long as safely possible
Why do you say no test only??
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Run deca or NPP for joint pain
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Why???
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If you are looking for a joint relief deca or npp (fast acting deca) do the trick and help with getting lean as you want.
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i love you brother,in no homosexual way, but id never recommend deca to anyone.
test e or cyp during diet is good enough for the joints and will spare him the deca dick.
id go with 250mg weekly if i was him, i find the hgiher test is during diet,the slower diet goes somehow.
but on 500weekly he shoudl definitely have enough water in the joints imo.
as for the question in op, yeah ofc youll get lean on that diet of yours.quite quickly.
True...that is a possible side. But he wants the leaness and joint relief. But with low levels and 500 mg of test a week he should be fine.
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ok,fair enough.
btw, drj, do you think-whats your opinion-say if diet is all the same, but variuous esters, will 1000mg test e cause more water retention compared to 1000mg prop in the same time?
Funny you should ask...ive tested this theory .....w prop you could notice the film of water between the skin and the muscle was not there like i could see with the enath ester. This was stacked with masteron, primo and npp. And anavar and winnie oral. Did not notice much of a fat burning diffence. But water retention ...especially in the AM were noticable.
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It was noticeable. I was also running 1mg of arimadx and i ran out so i had some letro laying around. I ran 2.5 mg ed...when I noticed the water retention in the am I cut it out see if Letro was it....but it was not.
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Check your pm
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i love you brother,in no homosexual way, but id never recommend deca to anyone.
test e or cyp during diet is good enough for the joints and will spare him the deca dick.
id go with 250mg weekly if i was him, i find the hgiher test is during diet,the slower diet goes somehow.
but on 500weekly he shoudl definitely have enough water in the joints imo.
as for the question in op, yeah ofc youll get lean on that diet of yours.quite quickly.
You are correct about tye test retaining water for him...but we are assuming his diet. If he is eating white fish and greens every 3 hours with no carbs and doing two sessions of cardio a day, the test aint gonna hold shit if h is lean to beging with. From my experience Norandrolone "lubricates" and makes joint pain go away. Granted there are some sides...but to every action.......there is an equal and opposite reaction....
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Since the d bols are fast acting can I run them for a few weeks just to frontload??
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hes not fully shredded yet :D
i feel that on test e the joints only become an issue below say,7%.until there is fine.
thanks,thats very interesting on the prop comparo.it doesnt make sense, as its both the same thing with different ester, but i do believe you.o
also, the ai thing is very interesting
Again you are correct Galeniko....but think about this....with the longer ester (e) you are accumilating test. Where as with the prop ester is releasing much faster about 3 days for prop and enanthate is ablut 10 or so. So you have the accumilation. I had the same thought as you....but you have to look at the in and out time...and the longer ester is slower and it stacking test in the blood steam. So this equals the accumilation, thus much higher test levels...thus....more water retention.... make sence?
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with 500 test e / week you can get lean with proper diet, the only thing that is important to get the estrogen in control, if high estrogen the fat loss will be difficult..with high estrogen you can even easily add fat with maintanance calories,,test has fat burning characteristics but only if estrogen is in control...so AI is a must!
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Funny you should ask...ive tested this theory .....w prop you could notice the film of water between the skin and the muscle was not there like i could see with the enath ester. This was stacked with masteron, primo and npp. And anavar and winnie oral. Did not notice much of a fat burning diffence. But water retention ...especially in the AM were noticable.
that's because prop has more test mg per mg
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that's because prop has more test mg per mg
Your right...it does.
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Again you are correct Galeniko....but think about this....with the longer ester (e) you are accumilating test. Where as with the prop ester is releasing much faster about 3 days for prop and enanthate is ablut 10 or so. So you have the accumilation. I had the same thought as you....but you have to look at the in and out time...and the longer ester is slower and it stacking test in the blood steam. So this equals the accumilation, thus much higher test levels...thus....more water retention.... make sence?
but if you cycle off the water retention goes away right? im currently runnin e5d enanthate onyle without arimidex with 2800kcals on 100-200gr carbs daily wanted to get lean by this summer but my weight didnt change my waist got tighter.. and i lost some underbelly fat im on for 10 weeks..
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What do you need test for if you've got a perfect diet?
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Can I drop bf and get lean on 500mg of test
How long should I run this cycle
How long do I need pct after my cycle
Add a couple of proviron a day to get shredded.
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deca+mast and ull have a libido. I added deca over a month ago? I think 8 weeks now? Anyway had mast in it too.. still got libido its just not raging like when i had no deca in there. Kind of better. Otherwise I'm annoying to the wife lmao.
Running very low doses of everything now too.. some may say 'useless' but works fine for me steady results... 200mg test-e, 300mg mast-e, 375mg tren-e, 375mg deca. Still a gram or so but meh :) I know galeniko ur for one compound only, i used to be like that, just upping test high but honestly i am more 'stable' than on high test. High test I do miss the super alpha feeling all the time but.. i feel omre normal with low dosages, and each aas does something slightly differently for me so... Plus low dose test, i can up any other aas and i dont get sides from them.. especially tren.. high dose test + tren no matter which dose im ruined.
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but if you cycle off the water retention goes away right? im currently runnin e5d enanthate onyle without arimidex with 2800kcals on 100-200gr carbs daily wanted to get lean by this summer but my weight didnt change my waist got tighter.. and i lost some underbelly fat im on for 10 weeks..
Yes water goes away afer.
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i think the finasteride is negating all the libido and mood benefits the test should give me
but oh well
better than being a bald alien
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oh its just being careful for me, the non estrogen convertibles,i dont wanna take the risks asociated with them, then baldness potential,i dont really care, but im not deliberately asking for it :D
and for some reason,i get severe sides from everything but test,and not after a while, but immediately,were talking few days. :-X
and most importantly, all the other stuff doesnt give me any beter results then hrt, or hrt*2.
Hey G, how do you like letro?
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I know this is an odd ball but as i mentioned in the other thread i used to have to use letro.. now despite mixing a few times deca/tren/drol i get no gyno issues... since I'm so so much leaner..
All I use is inhibit-p (over the counter supplement including p5p, l-dopa, vitex in the mix) and an otc AI called erase one pill at night (max dose is 3 per day -- apparently that worked to reduce estro levels to low normal for 1g of test with blood work for one guy). Strong stuff, and works like aromasin. Cheaper and easier to get than aromasin. I like aromasin too but it has short half life, pes erase has a longer half life so once a day is sufficient for me.
Hope that helps someone, cheap and otc.. thing is lately i run hrt doses of test only... but i would still use erase jus higher dosed if i ran more test. I'm not prone that bad gene for prostate/hair loss thank God... i find it weird how some ppl shed like crazy.. plus i also tend to shave my head most of the time so... but once in a while grow my hair.
Oh yeah I also feel pretty good, cuz i know how miserable letro made me feel.
As far as p5p/l-dopa blend... it works... p5p is the stronger active form of b6. Caber worked magic for libido and instant wood but i saw that it reduces igf1 levels so not using it... no other sides i could speak of ... prami made me sleep real good but also have a hard time waking up but worked well for reducing prolactin... but p5p/l-dopa mix (inhibit-p otc) works awesome no sides and easier/cheaper to get.