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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Bast06 on December 16, 2005, 10:09:38 PM
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Is Pat right?
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Riley's word is law.
Trust on that.
If wants Shaq to lose weight, his ass will lose weight.
DIV
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Yea he's injury prone because 340lbs guys aren't mean to jump 5ft in the air on a frequent basis. He would be better off with less muscle actually. However he could get to a lower body fat without losing muscle and be at a light enough weight.
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jarring joints unnaturally at that weight isn't advisable
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Shaq needs to lose fat, not weight. If he was in shape and lean at the same weight Riley would not have a problem with him (in my opinion).
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Shaq needs to lose fat, not weight. If he was in shape and lean at the same weight Riley would not have a problem with him (in my opinion).
lol fat doesnt weigh ? ;)
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shaqs entire game is based on size. the bigger he is the more effective he is
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shaqs entire game is based on size. the bigger he is the more effective he is
true.. especially he get to sit on everyone.. let them feel the light weight baby.
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shaqs entire game is based on size. the bigger he is the more effective he is
More effective when combining size with mobility and athleticism. Being big without being able to move is fairly useless unless you're a noseguard.
Good that someone's giving him a needed kick in the ass, without it there's no impetus not to continue being a big slob & bully.
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Shaq, join me in my new weight loss program today! ;D
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Shaq, join me in my new weight loss program today! ;D
Shaq might arrest you Shawn Ray..........remember he's a cop now. :-\
DIV
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If Shaq was around 250-270, he'd be unstoppable, and would prolong his career. Sad thing, he's an idit.
They even had some article in M&F or some shit like that a few years ago, showing how the retard was working out. Would you believe he was actually doing BB curls and leg presses, fcukin bodybuilding training. ::)
The guy is extremely rich, yet won't hire a trainer with a brain to tell him to train for basketball. Ridiculous.
Doubt Fat Shaq has ever done a snatch in his whole life.
Tim Duncan would be eaten alive if Shaq ever smartened up.
But he won't.
YIP
Zack
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If Shaq was around 250-270, he'd be unstoppable, and would prolong his career. Sad thing, he's an idit.
They even had some article in M&F or some shit like that a few years ago, showing how the retard was working out. Would you believe he was actually doing BB curls and leg presses, fcukin bodybuilding training. ::)
The guy is extremely rich, yet won't hire a trainer with a brain to tell him to train for basketball. Ridiculous.
Doubt Fat Shaq has ever done a snatch in his whole life.
Tim Duncan would be eaten alive if Shaq ever smartened up.
But he won't.
YIP
Zack
250TO 270, man that would be kind of skinny for 7'1" or 7'2".
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250TO 270, man that would be kind of skinny for 7'1" or 7'2".
Yes.
He's getting injured a lot, and having problems from the joints. IMO, he'd be better off if he stopped with his bodybuilding training that he showed off in that mag, slimmed down a lot.
Fat Shaq has a lot of muscle mass in the upper body. Which I believe is of little use when playing basketball.
That is a matter of opinion though of course.
Some people think it's just great to have big bulky guys on court. ::)
YIP
Zack
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Yes.
He's getting injured a lot, and having problems from the joints. IMO, he'd be better off if he stopped with his bodybuilding training that he showed off in that mag, slimmed down a lot.
Fat Shaq has a lot of muscle mass in the upper body. Which I believe is of little use when playing basketball.
That is a matter of opinion though of course.
Some people think it's just great to have big bulky guys on court. ::)
I agree he could lose some BF and slim down his physique, but he still needs upper body strength to muscle guys out of the post when he's down low.
He could change his training to focus on core strength and change his weightlifthing to more of a functional powerlifting scheme so as to maximize his strength at a lower bodyweight.
Think of the Olympic weightlifters who are strong, albeit at a lower weight. They maximize their strength while staying compact.....
That's what Shaq should do.
DIV
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He could change his training to focus on core strength and change his weightlifthing to more of a functional powerlifting scheme so as to maximize his strength at a lower bodyweight.
Think of the Olympic weightlifters who are strong, albeit at a lower weight. They maximize their strength while staying compact.....
That assumes cogent analytical ability. Currently Mr. O'neil adheres to the "Wazzup" training philosophy.
Weight training would be nice, but he's already stronger than most no matter what. He needs heavy cardio to get rid of the sloppiness.
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I agree he could lose some BF and slim down his physique, but he still needs upper body strength to muscle guys out of the post when he's down low.
He could change his training to focus on core strength and change his weightlifthing to more of a functional powerlifting scheme so as to maximize his strength at a lower bodyweight.
Think of the Olympic weightlifters who are strong, albeit at a lower weight. They maximize their strength while staying compact.....
That's what Shaq should do.
DIV
Let's say he would get to a competitive bodyfat level, with the current muscle mass. He would *probably* be around 310-315 lbs then.
If he would drop all that bullshit training for mass he's doing, only focusing on explosive movements like the Olympic Lifts only, and train with a Track and Field coach. That would get him under 300 lbs within the first year, IMO.
YIP
Zack
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Let's say he would get to a competitive bodyfat level, with the current muscle mass. He would *probably* be around 310-315 lbs then.
If he would drop all that bullshit training for mass he's doing, only focusing on explosive movements like the Olympic Lifts only, and train with a Track and Field coach. That would get him under 300 lbs within the first year, IMO.
^Concur.
If I was his guru, I'd put him on a basic Test/Tren/Winstrol cycle......
I'd aim to cut him up while making the mass he has more solid and dense.
That combined with the strength training would make him stronger, more explosive and sleeker, versatile.
He should have done this probably his 4th year or so.....when his body could still take the pounding.
It's probably too late for these recommendations.
DIV
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SHaq drinks about a dozen snapples a day.
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^Concur.
If I was his guru, I'd put him on a basic Test/Tren/Winstrol cycle......
I'd aim to cut him up while making the mass he has more solid and dense.
That combined with the strength training would make him stronger, more explosive and sleeker, versatile.
He should have done this probably his 4th year or so.....when his body could still take the pounding.
It's probably too late for these recommendations.
DIV
I know almost nothing about steroids, what I know, is from reading on these boards.
This I "know" though, Tren and Test adds muscle, Winstrol too, to some extent, but is mainly used to cut.
So if I saw anyone recommend Shaq such a "cycle"... I would steer him the other direction.
Shaq has always been big, and I would seriously question the sanity of using any kind of drugs that would get him bigger, when what he need is to stay lean, alternatively, at this stage of his career, to lose mass.
YIP
Zack
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I know almost nothing about steroids, what I know, is from reading on these boards.
This I "know" though, Tren and Test adds muscle, Winstrol too, to some extent, but is mainly used to cut.
So if I saw anyone recommend Shaq such a "cycle"... I would steer him the other direction.
Shaq has always been big, and I would seriously question the sanity of using any kind of drugs that would get him bigger, when what he need is to stay lean, alternatively, at this stage of his career, to lose mass.
Zachariah,
The point of the cycle combined with the Olympic training is to cut his bulk down to functional muscle. The Tren would do this, and I would run it with Test at the very least....Fine, he can do without the Winstrol. I'd have him cut down and dense, explosive.......that's what he needs. It's not so much building muscle with Shaq, as he already has it, just refining it while keeping him in an anabolic state.
He needs to respond favorably to the training style, with the least amount of complications. This is why I'd put him on a short cycle of Test/Tren.
DIV
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Zachariah,
The point of the cycle combined with the Olympic training is to cut his bulk down to functional muscle. The Tren would do this, and I would run it with Test at the very least....Fine, he can do without the Winstrol. I'd have him cut down and dense, explosive.......that's what he needs. It's not so much building muscle with Shaq, as he already has it, just refining it while keeping him in an anabolic state.
He needs to respond favorably to the training style, with the least amount of complications. This is why I'd put him on a short cycle of Test/Tren.
DIV
Ah ok I see what you're saying. He would still be able to get smaller then?
I've had the impression that AAS would prevent users from losing muscle mass when on a hypo caloric diet.
YIP
Zack
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Ah ok I see what you're saying. He would still be able to get smaller then?
I've had the impression that AAS would prevent users from losing muscle mass when on a hypo caloric diet.
It depends on how much cardio he's doing, but generally it would recomposition his body as a whole. His weight wouldn't change too much, but his appearance and his functionality would.
DIV
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'Roids are completely unecessary at this stage. If and when he's ever sufficiently desperate but i don't see it. Best thing for him would be an effective trainer, if he doesn't already have one.
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It depends on how much cardio he's doing, but generally it would recomposition his body as a whole. His weight wouldn't change too much, but his appearance and his functionality would.
DIV
Shaq's knees, and ligaments and joints overall, aren't gonna be able to handle him weighing above 270 lbs (and that is being generous IMO).
The stress on the knees is no different if it's a muscular 340 lbs or a lean 340 lbs.
YIP
Zack
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'Roids are completely unecessary at this stage. If and when he's ever sufficiently desperate but i don't see it. Best thing for him would be an effective trainer, if he doesn't already have one.
Go 2 Bed, Pumper.....
Shaq on Tren would work wonders.......
He'd cut up like a younger version from back in his early days.....
DIV
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'Roids are completely unecessary at this stage. If and when he's ever sufficiently desperate but i don't see it. Best thing for him would be an effective trainer, if he doesn't already have one.
I agree, since what I've seen about Shaq's strength training is extremely unimpressive.
How will gear help him get down to 270 lbs?
I also checked the NBA rules and regulations. They're testing. So he shouldn't be using steroids. If he is, then he's a cheater. So steroids are out of the question IMO.
YIP
Zack
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This 270 talk is stupid, he came in to the league at 21 at 305, he was under 10%bf.No way he ever gets to 310 again in his career let alone 270.
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I agree, since what I've seen about Shaq's strength training is extremely unimpressive.
How will gear help him get down to 270 lbs?
I also checked the NBA rules and regulations. They're testing. So he shouldn't be using steroids. If he is, then he's a cheater. So steroids are out of the question IMO.
This is all hypothetical, Zachariah......
Settle DOWN.
DIV
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This 270 talk is stupid, he came in to the league at 21 at 305, he was under 10%bf.No way he ever gets to 310 again in his career let alone 270.
Where do you get that "under 10%bf" from? ::)
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Zack
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Shaq is relatively lean, all of the talk about his weight is bullshit Don't mistake size with fat. He's got 3 rings and will go down as one of the 50 all time greatest NBA players. As far as Riley goes, people look at his reume through rose colored glasses. He won championships in the 80's with GREAT players. He did nothing special when he coached the Heat in the 90's!
Oh yeah and he stabbed Van Gundy(a good coah) in the back so he could coach Mr "He needs to lose weight" O'neal. Fuck Riles ;D
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Shaq is relatively lean, all of the talk about his weight is bullshit Don't mistake size with fat. He's got 3 rings and will go down as one of the 50 all time greatest NBA players. As far as Riley goes, people look at his reume through rose colored glasses. He won championships in the 80's with GREAT players. He did nothing special when he coached the Heat in the 90's!
Oh yeah and he stabbed Van Gundy(a good coah) in the back so he could coach Mr "He needs to lose weight" O'neal. f**k Riles ;D
One of the 50 all time greatest. I think he may be one of the 25 greatest. But that's a matter of opinion, of course.
Still, had the stupid fcuk not been so focused on bulking up, he would've been lean and mean, practically unstoppable. But the guy had to go for the bigger is better.
And can be dominated by Tim Duncan, which is laughable IMO. Something I thought was unthinkable in the past.
I think it's too late. And Shaq doesn't have the desire, either.
He's just a fcuking Kazaam.
YIP
Zack
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^Concur.
If I was his guru, I'd put him on a basic Test/Tren/Winstrol cycle......
I'd aim to cut him up while making the mass he has more solid and dense.
That combined with the strength training would make him stronger, more explosive and sleeker, versatile.
He should have done this probably his 4th year or so.....when his body could still take the pounding.
It's probably too late for these recommendations.
DIV
Why is the answer with you to always do a cycle? With "advice" like yours people would be better off without any advice at all.
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If Shaq was around 250-270, he'd be unstoppable, and would prolong his career. Sad thing, he's an idit.
At 250 to 270 Shaq would be a twig with his massive frame at nearly 7'2"
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I think it's too late. And Shaq doesn't have the desire, either.
He's just a fcuking Kazaam.
He's at the end of a long career.......no use in changing his style now.
He'll go out the same way he came in.....with force and fury to the basket.
DIV
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This 270 talk is stupid, he came in to the league at 21 at 305, he was under 10%bf.No way he ever gets to 310 again in his career let alone 270.
These guys have no clue about Shaq. He weighed about 300 as a freshman at LSU. He is HUGE.
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Shaq is relatively lean, all of the talk about his weight is bullshit Don't mistake size with fat. He's got 3 rings and will go down as one of the 50 all time greatest NBA players. As far as Riley goes, people look at his reume through rose colored glasses. He won championships in the 80's with GREAT players. He did nothing special when he coached the Heat in the 90's!
Oh yeah and he stabbed Van Gundy(a good coah) in the back so he could coach Mr "He needs to lose weight" O'neal. f**k Riles ;D
Agreed. Any coach could have won with, Magic, Kareem, Worthy, Cooper, McAdoo, Wilkes, Scott, Nixon, Lucas, and the list goes on....
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These guys have no clue about Shaq. He weighed about 300 as a freshman at LSU. He is HUGE.
I think he could slim down to right under 300 lbs within a year. That part would be the easiest.
I admit that 250 lbs is far fetched, unrealistic. 270 lbs.. Well. I think two years down the road... Yes.
YIP
Zack
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I think he could slim down to right under 300 lbs within a year. That part would be the easiest.
I admit that 250 lbs is far fetched, unrealistic. 270 lbs.. Well. I think two years down the road... Yes.
Considering his college playing weight......getting back to 300lbs is a real reach, but possible.
He'd have to lay off the bulking regiment and change up his style.
DIV
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Geez, I know that you guyz just wouldn't believe it but I have a somewhat Shaq story to tell too. After seeing the mofo on cribs......well, I guess he is somewhat ok :)
Jade
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Geez, I know that you guyz just wouldn't believe it but I have a somewhat Shaq story to tell too. After seeing the mofo on cribs......well, I guess he is somewhat ok :)
Jade
The real question would be..
Does Shaq have a Jade story to tell? 8)
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Zack
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Geez, I know that you guyz just wouldn't believe it but I have a somewhat Shaq story to tell too. After seeing the mofo on cribs......well, I guess he is somewhat ok :)
I'd like to climb in the back of Jade's crib, y0!....... ;)
DIV
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I meet Shaq at Oscar de La Hoya's charity thingy in LA a few years back and all I can say he is one huge dude. Nice as well.
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um pat reiley is a new yorker ...
from schenectady, new york...
would he lie ?
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I meet Shaq at Oscar de La Hoya's charity thingy in LA a few years back and all I can say he is one huge dude. Nice as well.
Shaq and Oscar are homies....
I've heard Shaq talk about Oscar plenty of times in interviews......he seems to like De La Hoya....
DIV
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He should diet and do more cardio. Simple.
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Shaq and Oscar are homies....
I've heard Shaq talk about Oscar plenty of times in interviews......he seems to like De La Hoya....
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I am not sure of their relationship -- but he was one of a few special guest there. That singer Marc Anthony or whatever was there as well and Andy Garcia. I am sure there were more -- but Shaq really stood out -- had this pimping white tux on.
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I am not sure of their relationship -- but he was one of a few special guest there. That singer Marc Anthony or whatever was there as well and Andy Garcia. I am sure there were more -- but Shaq really stood out -- had this pimping white tux on.
I think that pretty much backs up what I said.
DIV
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shaq at 270-LOL. shaq at 270 would struggle to put up 15 points and 8 rebounds a game. you know why? because shaq's ENTIRE GAME is based on his incredible size.
he barely has any basketball skill....any middle school basketball player could shoot freethrows better than him.
he cannot shoot AT ALL from further than 6 feet from the hoop...99% of his points are on dunks and layups, which he gets by simply backing the defender out of the way with his HUGE ASS.
no shooting skills, no dribbling skills, no speed, all size...shaq playing in the NBA is and has always been like a dad playing with his preteen sons....no skill but gets points and rebounds because hes so much more massive.
he was at his most dominant when he was biggest. make shaq as fat as possible while still being able to run the court, and he will get his numbers.
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Is Pat right?
This is bullshit.
Firstly, Shaq is so fucking tall, he doesn't need to jump much at all to dunk.
Secondly, why THE FUCK! does everyone think he's such a force? Because he IS so big that he just backs you down and dunks on you.
FOR FUCKS SAKE! Leave him be. When pencil necks like Mutombo can stop him, then he needs to lose weight.
Half the reason I started weight training was because I was getting pushed around on the court by older guys who weighed more. At 6'4" (if that) and 110kgs I can still dunk two hands off two feet without a run up. Shaq is fine.
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Shaq has already jumped on the band wagon with the cops and started his 1 pack a day of Jelly doughnuts.
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If Shaq was around 250-270, he'd be unstoppable, and would prolong his career. Sad thing, he's an idit.
They even had some article in M&F or some shit like that a few years ago, showing how the retard was working out. Would you believe he was actually doing BB curls and leg presses, fcukin bodybuilding training. ::)
The guy is extremely rich, yet won't hire a trainer with a brain to tell him to train for basketball. Ridiculous.
Doubt Fat Shaq has ever done a snatch in his whole life.
Tim Duncan would be eaten alive if Shaq ever smartened up.
But he won't.
YIP
Zack
How do you weight train for basketball ? Tape 5 pound plates to the ball ? :D
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How do you weight train for basketball ? Tape 5 pound plates to the ball ? :D
No.
You train Snatch (no, not that snatch, U filthy**** ;D), Cleans, Power Cleans and various versions of the olympic lifts.
Also, add in short sprints, and various step excersises. For speed endurance and overall stamina, look into using the basic ideas of a 200- or 400m sprinter. JMO.
That way you'll increase the kind of strength that is needed on court.
Sorry if I answered this question seriously, if you threw it at me only in jest... :-[
YIP
Zack
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anyone know the numbers he can put up in some lifts.....?
how strong is he?
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Jayson Williams of the Nets did a one arm barbell clean and jerk with 165 on David Letterman.
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Jayson Williams of the Nets did a one arm barbell clean and jerk with 165 on David Letterman.
Was that before or after he killed that limo driver?
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before.
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i prefer to just dump a load all over their heads.
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Riley's word is law.
Trust on that.
If wants Shaq to lose weight, his ass will lose weight.
DIV
Damn straight!!!
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The real question would be..
Does Shaq have a Jade story to tell? 8)
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Zack
No, I don't think so. Anyway, I was in line (back in the 90's) at Taco Cabana in San Antonio, TX when I just happened to turn around & Shaq was like right there ......to be continued ppl ;D
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No, I don't think so. Anyway, I was in line (back in the 90's) at Taco Cabana in San Antonio, TX when I just happened to turn around & Shaq just happened to be in my freakin' view......to be continued ppl ;D
wow thought i was the only one from there
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Im a trainer and a firend of mine who is also in the business was hired by 24 hour fitness like 2 years ago to move to Orlando and train Shaq in the off-season for 3 months between playing for L.A. and Miami. 24 hour fitness paid him, but Shaq also paid him like 8 grand a month or something crazy like that.
My buddy said that when Shaq is listed at 330-340 that means he is really about 370. So when they started training right after the season he was weighing right around 370 and he helped him get under 340.
He said that Shaq is pretty damn strong. Can bench over 400 and he didnt have him do squats because of his knees, well they did partials and they also did cleans like you guys said.
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Im a trainer and a firend of mine who is also in the business was hired by 24 hour fitness like 2 years ago to move to Orlando and train Shaq in the off-season for 3 months between playing for L.A. and Miami. 24 hour fitness paid him, but Shaq also paid him like 8 grand a month or something crazy like that.
My buddy said that when Shaq is listed at 330-340 that means he is really about 370. So when they started training right after the season he was weighing right around 370 and he helped him get under 340.
He said that Shaq is pretty damn strong. Can bench over 400 and he didnt have him do squats because of his knees, well they did partials and they also did cleans like you guys said.
Thanks for the input. Very nice to get real facts on stuff like this.
If Shaq is benchpressing as a part of his strength training protocol, that tells me his training is fcuked up.
How is benchpressing gonna help his performance on the basketball court?
I even recommend against oval ball players training bench press, I rather see them doing standing BB presses, and various seated shoulder presses. Also focus on the sled work.
It's all about functional strength in sports.
YIP
Zack
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Thanks for the input. Very nice to get real facts on stuff like this.
If Shaq is benchpressing as a part of his strength training protocol, that tells me his training is fcuked up.
How is benchpressing gonna help his performance on the basketball court?
I even recommend against oval ball players training bench press, I rather see them doing standing BB presses, and various seated shoulder presses. Also focus on the sled work.
It's all about functional strength in sports.
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Zack
Benching will put size on; Shaq = size, Shaq's size makes him unstoppable.
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Benching will put size on; Shaq = size, Shaq's size makes him unstoppable.
Well.
Then we are of different opinions on this one then.
I think that Shaq needs to avoid any excersises that adds upper body size. Like benchpressing.
Stick to excersises that develops functional strength, explosive strength. Like snatches, hang snatches, cleans, C&J's et al. Also sprints.
Otherwise he will have problems with knees, due to him being so heavy.
You mentioned him doing partial squats due to his knee problems...
I think Shaq and his highly paid physique coach should be able to figure out why he is having the knee problems.
YIP
Zack
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Well.
Then we are of different opinions on this one then.
I think that Shaq needs to avoid any excersises that adds upper body size. Like benchpressing.
Stick to excersises that develops functional strength, explosive strength. Like snatches, hang snatches, cleans, C&J's et al. Also sprints.
Otherwise he will have problems with knees, due to him being so heavy.
You mentioned him doing partial squats due to his knee problems...
I think Shaq and his highly paid physique coach should be able to figure out why he is having the knee problems.
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Zack
Must admit, it wasn't until I put on my initial weight that I blew my knee out. My old team mate reckons it was because I got too heavy too quickly.
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Must admit, it wasn't until I put on my initial weight that I blew my knee out. My old team mate reckons it was because I got too heavy too quickly.
The sad thing is that most young basketball players train with a protocol that bulks them up.
Only a few colleges are implementing pure Olympic lifting lifts and sprinting excersises. This despite the wisdom of track and field coaches are on the same campus.
Even fewer high schools are using it. They could probably be counted in single digits for the whole USA.
YIP
Zack
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The sad thing is that most young basketball players train with a protocol that bulks them up.
Only a few colleges are implementing pure Olympic lifting lifts and sprinting excersises. This despite the wisdom of track and field coaches are on the same campus.
Even fewer high schools are using it. They could probably be counted in single digits for the whole USA.
YIP
Zack
But in my case, I was 18 and skinny playing against a lot older guys who had matured weight on them. I was getting pushed around a lot so I decided to try and put some weight on to match it with them. I could still dunk VERY easily at 6'4" and I was able to alley oop as well. I think being able to jump so high took a toll on my knees.
Hang on, what the fuck am I talking about? (This happened 7 years ago). There was sweat or water on the court and my right leg slipped sideways after I jumped for a rebound and that's what caused my knee to blow out! Forgot that bit!
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If Shaq was around 250-270, he'd be unstoppable, and would prolong his career. Sad thing, he's an idit.
They even had some article in M&F or some shit like that a few years ago, showing how the retard was working out. Would you believe he was actually doing BB curls and leg presses, fcukin bodybuilding training. ::)
The guy is extremely milionaire, yet won't hire a trainer with a brain to tell him to train for basketball. Ridiculous.
Doubt Fat Shaq has ever done a snatch in his whole life.
Tim Duncan would be eaten alive if Shaq ever smartened up.
But he won't.
YIP
Zack
I think you already told the answer in the middle of your post why he doesnt care too much about all of this...But i just altered a little to be more real ;D
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Not sure what this thread is about. I just wanted to go to the last message and bump it.
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The HEat should draft Noah Steer.
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he has 4 rings..nuff said
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Shaq last year hired Carlon Colker, MD to help retool his diet and training sessions. Pat Riley wanted it and thus Shaq hired Dr. C.
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This 270 talk is stupid, he came in to the league at 21 at 305, he was under 10%bf.No way he ever gets to 310 again in his career let alone 270.
Exactly,look all the talk about his weight is bullshit. Even at a heavier BW Shaq was the main reason for the Lakers 3 championship wins and at the end of the day he's still leaner than the average sloppy Joe.
As long as he can get the job done what's the diff? What, does Riles want to date the guy or something?
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Is Pat right?
They ask him every year to drop weight, this is nothing new!
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Yea he's injury prone because 340lbs guys aren't mean to jump 5ft in the air on a frequent basis. He would be better off with less muscle actually. However he could get to a lower body fat without losing muscle and be at a light enough weight.
He's always had a lousey vertical, but 7'2 and doesn't need one!
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Shaq's knees, and ligaments and joints overall, aren't gonna be able to handle him weighing above 270 lbs (and that is being generous IMO).
The stress on the knees is no different if it's a muscular 340 lbs or a lean 340 lbs.
YIP
Zack
If only he could get close to the type of conditioning David Robinson showed
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Admiral was awesome.
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'Roids are completely unecessary at this stage. If and when he's ever sufficiently desperate but i don't see it. Best thing for him would be an effective trainer, if he doesn't already have one.
TA are you listening.
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he has 4 rings..nuff said
yeah, they really deserved it last year ::)
d-wade became the first player/referee in the history of the NBA