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Title: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: BFG on April 08, 2013, 10:48:56 AM
Below is the AAS and GH protocol for the final 8 weeks of prep from someone who recently competed at the Arnold.

8 weeks out

Monday: 2cc tren ace, 2cc masteron diprop, 2cc winstrol, 1cc test prop, 5iu GH morning, post workout, before bed
Tuesday: 2cc tren ace, 2cc masteron diprop, 2cc winstrol, 1cc test prop, 5iu GH morning, post workout, before bed
Wednesday: 2cc tren ace, 2cc masteron diprop, 2cc winstrol, 1cc test prop, 5iu GH morning, post workout, before bed
Thursday: 2cc tren ace, 2cc masteron diprop, 2cc winstrol, 1cc test prop, 5iu GH morning, post workout, before bed
Friday: 2cc tren ace, 2cc masteron diprop, 2cc winstrol, 1cc test prop, 5iu GH morning, post workout, before bed
Saturday: 2cc tren ace, 2cc masteron diprop, 2cc winstrol, 1cc test prop, 5iu GH morning, post workout, before bed
Sunday: 2cc tren ace, 2cc masteron diprop, 2cc winstrol, 1cc test prop, 5iu GH morning, post workout, before bed

4 weeks out:

Monday: 2cc tren ace, 2cc masteron diprop, 2cc winstrol, 40mg halotestin
Tuesday: 2cc tren ace, 2cc masteron diprop, 2cc winstrol, 40mg halotestin
Wednesday: 2cc tren ace, 2cc masteron diprop, 2cc winstrol, 40mg halotestin
Thursday: 2cc tren ace, 2cc masteron diprop, 2cc winstrol, 40mg halotestin
Friday: 2cc tren ace, 2cc masteron diprop, 2cc winstrol, 40mg halotestin
Saturday: 2cc tren ace, 2cc masteron diprop, 2cc winstrol, 40mg halotestin
Sunday:2cc tren ace, 2cc masteron diprop, 2cc winstrol, 40mg halotestin

1 week out
Monday: 2cc tren ace, 2cc masteron diprop, 2cc winstrol, 40mg halotestin, 200mg anadrol
Tuesday:  2cc tren ace, 2cc masteron diprop, 2cc winstrol, 40mg halotestin, 200mg anadrol
Wednesday:  2cc tren ace, 2cc masteron diprop, 2cc winstrol, 40mg halotestin, 200mg anadrol
Thursday:  2cc tren ace, 2cc masteron diprop, 2cc winstrol, 40mg halotestin, 200mg anadrol
Friday: day of show, minor site injections with injectable anadrol and dbol, carb up with humalog
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: DroppingPlates on April 08, 2013, 10:54:35 AM
Can someone explain me the differences between mast propionate & dipropionate?
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: ukjeff on April 08, 2013, 10:55:04 AM
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Below is the AAS and GH protocol for the final 8 weeks of prep from someone who recently competed at the Arnold.
Did she win?
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: liquid_c on April 08, 2013, 11:04:56 AM
Can someone explain me the differences between mast propionate & dipropionate?

Same thing.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: ribonucleic on April 08, 2013, 11:11:43 AM
How much did they pay?
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on April 08, 2013, 11:12:22 AM
Not sure if my mental state would be able to tolerate the Tren ( at those doses, anyways ) and Halo at the same time at 4 weeks out. Lol.

It'd be a rough ride, anyways, with my kind of life. Lol.

Thanks for the post though, BFG. :)
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on April 08, 2013, 11:13:26 AM
Not sure if my mental state would be able to tolerate the Tren ( at those doses, anyways ) and Halo at the same time at 4 weeks out. Lol.

It'd be a rough ride, anyways, with my kind of life. Lol.

Thanks for the post though, BFG. :)

2.5 grams of Tren a week?  Fuck.  I would have killed three people and not slept.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: BFG on April 08, 2013, 11:21:07 AM
2.5 grams of Tren a week?  Fuck.  I would have killed three people and not slept.

tren ace is usually 75-100mg's per 1ml. 2cc's daily would be 1.4 gram tops.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: Krankenstein on April 08, 2013, 11:22:09 AM
If this is true I am going to label myself the biggest pussy there is.  When I was going my HRT, there was one time I did an injection and the next day I woke up and the spot was tender.  So I foam rolled on it. That night i got NO sleep.  The next days was BRUTAL.  felt like someone had kicked me in the ass cheek with a steel toe boot.  I was doing ONLY 1cc of test.  There were times the injection was simple as all hell.  A buddy of mine said I might have nicked a nerve, or caught some scar tissue, or due to my shaking (tremors) the needle was being moved around and I fucked with the muscle too much (I was only using 23g x 1 1/2" needles).

There is NO WAY I could fathom 6cc/day
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: 240 is Back on April 08, 2013, 11:22:29 AM
my mom runs that same stack.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: BigRo on April 08, 2013, 11:27:13 AM
2cc = how many ml? 

I see they dropped the test out at 4 weeks out, is this common protocol for pros?
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: affeman on April 08, 2013, 11:27:50 AM
That would cost more than the prize money for 1st place lol
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: dustin on April 08, 2013, 11:29:28 AM
2cc = how many ml? 

I see they dropped the test out at 4 weeks out, is this common protocol for pros?

1cc = 1ml

Sounds like they're just filling up turkey basters full of gear.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: BFG on April 08, 2013, 11:30:16 AM
If this is true I am going to label myself the biggest pussy there is.  When I was going my HRT, there was one time I did an injection and the next day I woke up and the spot was tender.  So I foam rolled on it. That night i got NO sleep.  The next days was BRUTAL.  felt like someone had kicked me in the ass cheek with a steel toe boot.  I was doing ONLY 1cc of test.  There were times the injection was simple as all hell.  A buddy of mine said I might have nicked a nerve, or caught some scar tissue, or due to my shaking (tremors) the needle was being moved around and I fucked with the muscle too much (I was only using 23g x 1 1/2" needles).

There is NO WAY I could fathom 6cc/day

injecting this many (or more) cc's a day really sucks. in the beginning, it seems kind of fun and motivating because you know you are "pushing the envelope" and going to see some major changes in your body...fast forward 6-8 weeks later of 2 full barrels every single day and you feel like you live in a prison.

Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: BFG on April 08, 2013, 11:32:10 AM
2cc = how many ml? 

I see they dropped the test out at 4 weeks out, is this common protocol for pros?

many do...i think its somewhat unnecessary...running on zero test while severely dieted down and on tons of other shit makes you just feel 100x worse.

if you are running a fast clearing ester like prop, pp, suspension or base you can safely run it about 7-10 days before show time (much closer if you are using base or suspension) 
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: XFACTOR on April 08, 2013, 11:33:27 AM
To say this isn't shaving years and years off people's lives is absurd.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: dustin on April 08, 2013, 11:34:17 AM
To say this isn't shaving years and years off people's lives is absurd.

It's only extremely hazardous to your health if you want it to be.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on April 08, 2013, 11:37:04 AM
To say this isn't shaving years and years off people's lives is absurd.

nah, they just balance it out with colon cleanses  ::)
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: affeman on April 08, 2013, 11:37:24 AM
To say this isn't shaving years and years off people's lives is absurd.

Just got off the phone with Nasser and he said it isn't, you can't overdose on steroids. Oh, wait a second....
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: DroppingPlates on April 08, 2013, 11:37:50 AM
Same thing.

They have the same ester ???
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: bigmc on April 08, 2013, 11:38:36 AM
what no kigs  ???
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on April 08, 2013, 11:48:06 AM
what no kigs  ???

Shhh. it's a secret :P
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: XFACTOR on April 08, 2013, 11:49:39 AM
nah, they just balance it out with colon cleanses  ::)

As you joke these guys probably truly believe this.  Just looking at that cycle is bone chilling.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on April 08, 2013, 11:51:43 AM
As you joke these guys probably truly believe this.  Just looking at that cycle is bone chilling.

That's where I get this from. I read an interview with Toney Freeman where you mentions this is how he stays healthy.

Nothing like injecting yourself with 10 grams of steroids a week to use some holistic method to stay healthy.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: XFACTOR on April 08, 2013, 11:55:10 AM
That's where I get this from. I read an interview with Toney Freeman where you mentions this is how he stays healthy.

Nothing like injecting yourself with 10 grams of steroids a week to use some holistic method to stay healthy.

Crazy that someone would sacrifice their existence for this.  I guess it would be a cool full time job for a little while, but still even if it payed me out 7 figures a year I couldn't do it. ROI just isn't there.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: deceiver on April 08, 2013, 11:56:36 AM
Crazy that someone would sacrifice their existence for this.  I guess it would be a cool full time job for a little while, but still even if it payed me out 7 figures a year I couldn't do it. ROI just isn't there.

You're gonna die anyway. But I agree that whenever I hear bodybuilders talking about "encouraging people to bodybuild in order to look good and stay healthy" I simply laugh my ass off.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: prizm on April 08, 2013, 12:04:01 PM
You're gonna die anyway. But I agree that whenever I hear bodybuilders talking about "encouraging people to bodybuild in order to look good and stay healthy" I simply laugh my ass off.

Dying isn't the issue really..that's the easy way out. The brutal possibility here is living with health problems you've created...there's nothing worse, but no one realizes this until they've lived it.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: dustin on April 08, 2013, 12:04:07 PM
Crazy that someone would sacrifice their existence for this.  I guess it would be a cool full time job for a little while, but still even if it payed me out 7 figures a year I couldn't do it. ROI just isn't there.

But... they make tens of dozens of schmoes around the world happy! How can you say that's not fulfilling? Sure, they're cutting a decade or two off their lifespan, but who wants to live to that long anyway?
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: basil on April 08, 2013, 12:07:55 PM
nah, they just balance it out with colon cleanses  ::)

And milk thistle.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: ukjeff on April 08, 2013, 12:17:49 PM
If they are taking that much its fake.
Your body couldn't handle that much, its worse than a course of chemo.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: Irongrip400 on April 08, 2013, 12:18:06 PM
Did she win?

LMFAO
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: liquid_c on April 08, 2013, 12:19:51 PM
If they are taking that much its fake.
Your body couldn't handle that much, its worse than a course of chemo.

I would have to disagree.  I've seen the results of Chemo first hand and I would have to say it is worse than any cycle you could do. :-\  On a side note, although very high dosages, at least this cycle is do-able.  Unlike some of the made up supposed pro cycles I have seen. 
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: ukjeff on April 08, 2013, 12:20:21 PM
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LMFAO
I thought it was going to go unnoticed.  ;D
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: Van_Bilderass on April 08, 2013, 12:24:49 PM
Crazy that someone would sacrifice their existence for this.  I guess it would be a cool full time job for a little while, but still even if it payed me out 7 figures a year I couldn't do it. ROI just isn't there.

You think anyone does this for money? No one does. Knowing that, it's much easier to understand.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: liquid_c on April 08, 2013, 12:28:22 PM
i think the time has come where someone should have all the ugl stuff tested.

i believe since a long time that its all severly underdosed.severly.

and not tests done by the ugls themselves, but pick couple random bottles and have them tested.

everyone knows that ugl hgh has half of whats labelled,if they get lucky.more often its 25% of whats promised.

wouldnt be suprised to see that most ugl stuff is just bit test e and thats it.

lol at gymrats from america who are on 1.5gramms weekly, about my size and say they got fantastic ugl stuff over there.



Used to be the case when ANYONE could send a sample in and for about 100$ get it tested.  Unfortunately in their wisdom the feds stopped that.  Kept labs much more in check when that was the case. 
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: arce1988 on April 08, 2013, 12:28:26 PM
(http://www.menshealth.com/mhlists/cms/uploads/1/swiss-cheese-edited.jpg)
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: dustin on April 08, 2013, 12:29:00 PM
You think anyone does this for money? No one does. Knowing that, it's much easier to understand.

The psychological problems that compel people to do this are much more deeply rooted. :-\
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on April 08, 2013, 12:30:08 PM
Crazy that someone would sacrifice their existence for this.  I guess it would be a cool full time job for a little while, but still even if it payed me out 7 figures a year I couldn't do it. ROI just isn't there.

I guess it's no different than those base jumpers , sky divers or thrill enthusiasts.  You decided living "normal" is not for you and take risks to be different and those risks are life or death
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on April 08, 2013, 12:31:04 PM
The main question is do these guys need that much?  If they cut their doses in half would they look the same?  how much of it are they actually pissing out?
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: dustin on April 08, 2013, 12:32:39 PM
I guess it's no different than those base jumpers , sky divers or thrill enthusiasts.  You decided living "normal" is not for you and take risks to be different and those risks are life or death

Except those are way more badass than leading a sedentary lifestyle riddled with drug abuse. Their grand payoff is to diet down for months, get on stage all greased up in a sparkly thong and dance around for a crowd of schmoes to win their approval.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: Van_Bilderass on April 08, 2013, 12:35:00 PM
i think the time has come where someone should have all the ugl stuff tested.

i believe since a long time that its all severly underdosed.severly.

and not tests done by the ugls themselves, but pick couple random bottles and have them tested.

everyone knows that ugl hgh has half of whats labelled,if they get lucky.more often its 25% of whats promised.

wouldnt be suprised to see that most ugl stuff is just bit test e and thats it.

lol at gymrats from america who are on 1.5gramms weekly, about my size and say they got fantastic ugl stuff over there.



Do you think today's pros use pretty properly dosed hormones, like say tren? The pros don't have an extra special connect for drugs. It's the same shit available to everyone. Of course a lot is bunk but there's real hormones in proper dosages available too.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: BigRo on April 08, 2013, 01:09:57 PM
cycle doesnt look too excessive to me, the tren is alot but if they can tolerate it. Would expect top Olympia contenders to be on more than this.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: dj181 on April 08, 2013, 01:14:16 PM
my mom runs that same stack.

lol
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on April 08, 2013, 01:38:57 PM
I see they dropped the test out at 4 weeks out, is this common protocol for pros?

Pros rarely ever get laid so what do they need test for?
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: Hulkotron on April 08, 2013, 01:40:00 PM
No all-you-can-eat insulina buffet?
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on April 08, 2013, 01:42:14 PM
The main question is do these guys need that much?  If they cut their doses in half would they look the same?  how much of it are they actually pissing out?

They don't wanna risk not looking as good by taking half. Better safe than sorry
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on April 08, 2013, 01:45:32 PM
They don't wanna risk not looking as good by taking half. Better UNsafe than sorry

fixed
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on April 08, 2013, 01:48:59 PM
If they are taking that much its fake.
Your body couldn't handle that much, its worse than a course of chemo.


Uhhhhh ... no. This cycle looks EXTREMELY " mild " compared to others BFG has posted. This one is COMPLETELY believable.

Hell, I know gym rats running close to 2 grams of Tren a week ON TOP of other shit. Come on now, guys ! Lol !

You guys talk so much shit about bodybuilders. How about the ones that DON'T compete ? Lol. Yet still use insulin, high amounts of GH, peptides, etc., etc. Those guys are the ones, imo, who are seriously mentally fucked.

Just my two cents.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: indie-lad on April 08, 2013, 01:55:38 PM
injecting this many (or more) cc's a day really sucks. in the beginning, it seems kind of fun and motivating because you know you are "pushing the envelope" and going to see some major changes in your body...fast forward 6-8 weeks later of 2 full barrels every single day and you feel like you live in a prison.



This...
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: ukjeff on April 08, 2013, 02:03:07 PM
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Hell, I know gym rats running WHAT THEY THINK IS close to 2 grams of Tren a week ON TOP of other shit. Come on now, guys ! Lol !
Fixed
You guys across the pond are getting duped.   :)
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on April 08, 2013, 02:08:40 PM
Fixed
You guys across the pond are getting duped.   :)



I have VERY GOOD sources, Uk. Sources that test too, mind you. So, getting " duped " ? Hardly. ;)
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: arce1988 on April 08, 2013, 02:55:44 PM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-RSaTdABdaK0/UNsIsW0BxdI/AAAAAAAALlE/oLt224RUNJU/s1600/swiss+cheese.jpg)
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: ukjeff on April 08, 2013, 02:56:00 PM
I
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have VERY GOOD sources, Uk. Sources that test too, mind you. So, getting " duped " ? Hardly.
Careful, that was almost an admission of supplying.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: ukjeff on April 08, 2013, 03:00:55 PM
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yet they hardly outmuscle guys the size of "bouncer" or me
Ahem...forgetting someone?
I started dieting today, photos in 4 weeks    ;D
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: Mawse on April 08, 2013, 03:11:54 PM
chinese hgh is fucking garbage, get an IGF test after a few weeks running it and I'd bet that your levels hardly move at all, even if it passes the gh serum test its still probably biologically inactive

gym rats running 10ius are probably more like really running 2-3 if theyre lucky. I'd rather run ghrp than chinese HGH

chinese hormone powders are usually pretty accurately doses, like 98% but they are full of contaminants and poision. And the 'top chef' making your overpriced UG injectables is some high school drop out in a filthy meth lab who obviously isnt going to accurately weigh, measure and filter everything when hes making 100's of vials a day
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: TheTruth90 on April 08, 2013, 03:30:37 PM

theres so many suckers who believe religiously in the ugl stuff,its ridiculous, and they have one thing in common, they look like shit, 99% of them look like shit, running more than a gramm of the "magic " tren, yet they hardly outmuscle guys the size of "bouncer" or me ::)



You aren't no mass monster yourself stud. Only thing you are is cut and low bodyfat. Still a twink to some from gebigs past.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: ukjeff on April 08, 2013, 03:32:17 PM
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Still a twink to some from gebigs past.
I don't think he's claiming any different
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: Seven Copper Coins on April 08, 2013, 03:41:39 PM
I'm with Jeff. Anyone running 2 grams of trenA is running some garbage gear. My head would explode and i would kill 8 random people on 2 grams of quality tren. Just thinking about a dosage that high is making my teeth grind

If i ran 3gs of real test i would look like a water balloon.

You wouldnt be able to get out of bed or think straight your system would  be so fucked up.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: deceiver on April 08, 2013, 03:53:44 PM
if they use 2gramms of tren over say a year and theyre no plain and simply monsters, absolutely dwarfing me, then that tren is everything but tren.

have you ever,ever considered-has it crossed your mind-that the homebrewer in the first place doesnt even know what the laughing sloteyes in china have sent him as raw powder? ::)

look at chinese hgh quality,haha, look at anything coming from china,all the stuff they copy, look how their tshirts are falling apart upon first washing, and now think about how quality their raw powders will be.

theres so many suckers who believe religiously in the ugl stuff,its ridiculous, and they have one thing in common, they look like shit, 99% of them look like shit, running more than a gramm of the "magic " tren, yet they hardly outmuscle guys the size of "bouncer" or me ::)

how comes?

I think for the most part is that because they squat 80kg and bench 60kg and never did more than that, started tren before they managed to have at least some mascularity and they think eating tons of food is OK on tren because it will "BURN ALL OF IT".

Final effect is a twink with tons of fat and yeah, some veins here and there, mainly from crazy tren induced bp.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: deviant on April 08, 2013, 04:53:17 PM
There are good sources around for both pharma and UG gear (i'm in the UK so things may differ elsewhere)....we have steroid review websites where sources are openly discussed and the law permits purchasing gear online from inside the UK which also helps with fairly open and frank discussions of good labs and shit labs etc etc....

....currently running 500mg/week test and 20mg/day of dianabol.

A small cycle for a lot of people on here but the results have been awesome, the gear is legit....i've done heavier cycles (from abroad incidentally) and had no discernible results, in that instance the gear was obviously fake.

I wouldnt want to up the dose all the time i get results on light cycles, it probably helps that my mindset is no longer towards constantly bulking and i instead enjoy other sports and only lift twice a week.
What i hate most is having to stick to a regime, taking d-bol every 6 hours is a ball ache....christ knows how somebody copes with the cycle posted by the OP!
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: THE BOUNCER on April 08, 2013, 05:03:03 PM
the mental agression on tren is all placebo.

sorry bro, but you can only speak for yourself on this, not for me. i have run tren as low as 100mgs per week just to see if i could use it at all and not get sides. within 3 weeks i was a completely different person. aggression, depression, fucked up thoughts you dont even wanna hear about etc..

everyone is different, body chemistry etc..

i cannot run tren at any dose, nips puff up and i turn into a fucken borderline rapist nutjob. lmao
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: timfogarty on April 08, 2013, 05:03:28 PM
tren ace is usually 75-100mg's per 1ml. 2cc's daily would be 1.4 gram tops.

none of those numbers mean anything unless we know the mg/ml
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: Mawse on April 08, 2013, 05:48:41 PM
I dont get how people who claim to shoot so many 100s of CC a week aren;'t just one big walking block of scar tisse? Or how they havent destroyed most of the nerves in their body ?
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: RS on April 08, 2013, 05:56:45 PM
BFG - you know this for a fact or this is what you suspect a pro would take?

Below is the AAS and GH protocol for the final 8 weeks of prep from someone who recently competed at the Arnold.

8 weeks out

Monday: 2cc tren ace, 2cc masteron diprop, 2cc winstrol, 1cc test prop, 5iu GH morning, post workout, before bed
Tuesday: 2cc tren ace, 2cc masteron diprop, 2cc winstrol, 1cc test prop, 5iu GH morning, post workout, before bed
Wednesday: 2cc tren ace, 2cc masteron diprop, 2cc winstrol, 1cc test prop, 5iu GH morning, post workout, before bed
Thursday: 2cc tren ace, 2cc masteron diprop, 2cc winstrol, 1cc test prop, 5iu GH morning, post workout, before bed
Friday: 2cc tren ace, 2cc masteron diprop, 2cc winstrol, 1cc test prop, 5iu GH morning, post workout, before bed
Saturday: 2cc tren ace, 2cc masteron diprop, 2cc winstrol, 1cc test prop, 5iu GH morning, post workout, before bed
Sunday: 2cc tren ace, 2cc masteron diprop, 2cc winstrol, 1cc test prop, 5iu GH morning, post workout, before bed

4 weeks out:

Monday: 2cc tren ace, 2cc masteron diprop, 2cc winstrol, 40mg halotestin
Tuesday: 2cc tren ace, 2cc masteron diprop, 2cc winstrol, 40mg halotestin
Wednesday: 2cc tren ace, 2cc masteron diprop, 2cc winstrol, 40mg halotestin
Thursday: 2cc tren ace, 2cc masteron diprop, 2cc winstrol, 40mg halotestin
Friday: 2cc tren ace, 2cc masteron diprop, 2cc winstrol, 40mg halotestin
Saturday: 2cc tren ace, 2cc masteron diprop, 2cc winstrol, 40mg halotestin
Sunday:2cc tren ace, 2cc masteron diprop, 2cc winstrol, 40mg halotestin

1 week out
Monday: 2cc tren ace, 2cc masteron diprop, 2cc winstrol, 40mg halotestin, 200mg anadrol
Tuesday:  2cc tren ace, 2cc masteron diprop, 2cc winstrol, 40mg halotestin, 200mg anadrol
Wednesday:  2cc tren ace, 2cc masteron diprop, 2cc winstrol, 40mg halotestin, 200mg anadrol
Thursday:  2cc tren ace, 2cc masteron diprop, 2cc winstrol, 40mg halotestin, 200mg anadrol
Friday: day of show, minor site injections with injectable anadrol and dbol, carb up with humalog

Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: Bevo on April 08, 2013, 06:56:45 PM
I don't know much about drug stacking but is there any reason to take gh out after the first couple of wks?
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: cephissus on April 08, 2013, 07:41:09 PM
galeniko, where do you get your hormones?  ugl, doctor?
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: arce1988 on April 08, 2013, 07:44:25 PM
  Not that lucky here   I wish I did know a Doc that I could legally get HRT from
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: cephissus on April 08, 2013, 08:44:07 PM
do you have to get retested periodically?

what is the hrt dose?

(sorry, i know i've asked before but i forget)
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: jon cole on April 08, 2013, 08:44:58 PM
i think the time has come where someone should have all the ugl stuff tested.

i believe since a long time that its all severly underdosed.severly.

and not tests done by the ugls themselves, but pick couple random bottles and have them tested.

everyone knows that ugl hgh has half of whats labelled,if they get lucky.more often its 25% of whats promised.

wouldnt be suprised to see that most ugl stuff is just bit test e and thats it.

lol at gymrats from america who are on 1.5gramms weekly, about my size and say they got fantastic ugl stuff over there.



all ug gear are underdosed or mis labelled, why ???

Because here in Europa hg or vet gear are or were available.

Real Finaject was insane, nobody can handle 100mg of fina e.d for week, when real Eq was available nobody can handle a gram of real eq a week, or the guy will sweat like in a sauna, smell horse and be covered of acne, 500/600mg a week was the max.

Guy taking ug gear are taking 1gr of test and 800 of eq, good god, with real stuff 500 and 250 will produce twice the result.


Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: Master Blaster on April 08, 2013, 09:10:46 PM
The main question is do these guys need that much?  If they cut their doses in half would they look the same?  how much of it are they actually pissing out?

I think this is the key question. There is some kind of bell curve at work here, and these bald, bloated sausage midgets are on the wrong side of it.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: Cleanest Natural on April 08, 2013, 11:03:47 PM
the mental agression on tren is all placebo.

how do i know?guess how. ::)

if anything, its to do with dieting, many take tren for diet and in diet many have bit short fuses
I know Galeniko knows his drugs because I hace the same oppinion about tren....it is the diet that brings out the nasty in you while the tren will amplify it a bit...nlearn to  ontrol yourself
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: POB on April 08, 2013, 11:09:13 PM
It's only extremely hazardous to your health if you want it to be.

They die from the narcotic bro not the dosages :D
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: Van_Bilderass on April 09, 2013, 12:26:24 AM
another story about ugls comes to mind.

once a snakeoilsalesmanugl-dealer told me how "they" tested their gear and it came out to be overdosed ::)

i asked him back why would they even test it in the first place if they know exactly what theyre doing.

oh btw, ofc it wasnt him who tested anything, it was his "boss" ::)

atleast im the kinda guy who will straight inte face ask them-if possible infront as many ppl as possible-whether they themselves take it and why then they look like total shit.

these ppl dont even know how to diet, yet theyre some chemists who allegedly have their gear tested.
theyre usualy dead broke skint, and such tests cost about as much money as a one week holiday in the sun, but they know for sure its overdosed.

haha same guy told me to not trust the polish test from their pharmacies(!) because its from poland ::)

firstly, a nation would make better gear than he ever could in his mothers basement,or council estate, secondly,its not polish its always supranational megapharma companies, the top of the food chain, and this little bum wants ppl to believ otherwise.



I've used for example Galenika, Testex, Cidoteston bought from pharmacies
and some UGL has worked just as well. Does this mean all my HG gear has been fake?
I have some Galenika here and could shoot 8-10 amps all at once once weekly and nothing special would happen. Tripple your usual dose doesn't mean triple the results.

I know one monstrous dude and he has never used a single human grade product.
Does this mean he's grown like crazy to "pro size" on
gear dosed at 25%? Most of which has just been low dosed test?

Llewllyn tested a lot of products and some was properly dosed.


Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: OTHstrong on April 09, 2013, 12:46:32 AM
I have had a prescription for human grade for ions and get 1 x 5cc bottles per month and I always save them, stock up and use them for when I diet. Now I have done a dozen of these human grade bottles back to back and in all honesty I see NO difference at all between these human grade test then I do from the ug gear I get, they are certainly not stronger in any way, maybe cleaner but the ug gear nowadays is very strong and dosed properly, of course not all of them but most.

If you bought the raw powders in bulk, the amount of test you would put in 10cc vile of test E at 250 mg would cost you literally 2-3 dollars so under dosing it would make absolutely no sense at all when it cost you pennies to make.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: WillGrant on April 09, 2013, 01:55:40 AM
I know Galeniko knows his drugs because I hace the same oppinion about tren....it is the diet that brings out the nasty in you while the tren will amplify it a bit...nlearn to  ontrol yourself
It's testosterone and tren run together - drop test run tren high with no issues - It's the  estrogen and progesterone working together and the sides are nasty for those that are sensitive to them - drop test to 125 - 250mg and you can run tren with no issues at 100 - 150mg per day.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: deceiver on April 09, 2013, 02:04:30 AM
It's testosterone and tren run together - drop test run tren high with no issues - It's the  estrogen and progesterone working together and the sides are nasty for those that are sensitive to them - drop test to 125 - 250mg and you can run tren with no issues at 100 - 150mg per day.

This.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: usmcdevildoc on April 09, 2013, 03:41:40 AM
  Not that lucky here   I wish I did know a Doc that I could legally get HRT from

You do. Lol
Nice to see you back Marine.

S/F

DOC
Lift, fuck, make money
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: Cleanest Natural on April 09, 2013, 03:51:54 AM
It's testosterone and tren run together - drop test run tren high with no issues - It's the  estrogen and progesterone working together and the sides are nasty for those that are sensitive to them - drop test to 125 - 250mg and you can run tren with no issues at 100 - 150mg per day.
when I run tren I run 1 gram a week with 350 mg tesp prop
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: bigmc on April 09, 2013, 04:34:19 AM
when I run tren I run 1 gram a week with 350 mg tesp prop

great natural athlete
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: Cleanest Natural on April 09, 2013, 04:52:50 AM
great natural athlete
I have done plenty of cycles in the past you idiot. My handle is Cleanest Natural. I despise users who lie and I always stated that there is NO natural bodybuilding. You are THICK.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: bigmc on April 09, 2013, 04:54:18 AM
I have done plenty of cycles in the past you idiot. My handle is Cleanest Natural. I despise users who lie and I always stated that there is NO natural bodybuilding. You are THICK.

it was a joke sebastian

classic roid rage  ;D
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: WillGrant on April 09, 2013, 04:57:53 AM
when I run tren I run 1 gram a week with 350 mg tesp prop
Try dropping it lower if you are still getting sides - honestly man , I have talked to guys who have dropped there prop to 10mgs a day , use a slin pin to shoot it - to get rid of the nasty sides and it works.

Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: bywhatevermeans on April 09, 2013, 06:23:58 AM
I've used for example Galenika, Testex, Cidoteston bought from pharmacies
and some UGL has worked just as well. Does this mean all my HG gear has been fake?
I have some Galenika here and could shoot 8-10 amps all at once once weekly and nothing special would happen. Tripple your usual dose doesn't mean triple the results.

I know one monstrous dude and he has never used a single human grade product.
Does this mean he's grown like crazy to "pro size" on
gear dosed at 25%? Most of which has just been low dosed test?

Llewllyn tested a lot of products and some was properly dosed.



Despite what one might think about ugl's. Results don't lie. If you insist on paying double or triple the price of human grade gear, then by all means do it. I wish I had a dollar for every time somebody told me to run human grade gear over ugl. Truth is I pay a third of the price for ugl, which means I can run 3 times as much. And honestly I am much bigger than most people.

So please run your low doses of human grade gear and be happy with being a little over 200 pounds. And I will run my ugl's and stay above 260 with abs at the young tender age of 24.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: deceiver on April 09, 2013, 06:26:54 AM
If your stuff from "Poland" wasn't bought in pharmacy and you haven't seen script or bought it yourself then I am afraid it's fake.

I know a guy who used to make fake Jelfa stuff, apparently it was made in my city, lol. Didn't know until I saw police news. Tons of fake Jelfa boxes and other stuff needed to produce fake shit.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: Borracho on April 09, 2013, 06:33:39 AM
Despite what one might think about ugl's. Results don't lie. If you insist on paying double or triple the price of human grade gear, then by all means do it. I wish I had a dollar for every time somebody told me to run human grade gear over ugl. Truth is I pay a third of the price for ugl, which means I can run 3 times as much. And honestly I am much bigger than most people.

So please run your low doses of human grade gear and be happy with being a little over 200 pounds. And I will run my ugl's and stay above 260 with abs at the young tender age of 24.

There's some good ones out there but still, you never know what and how much is actually in them.

Are we gonna get a chance to see this nearly 300 lb beast?
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: bigmc on April 09, 2013, 06:35:21 AM
Despite what one might think about ugl's. Results don't lie. If you insist on paying double or triple the price of human grade gear, then by all means do it. I wish I had a dollar for every time somebody told me to run human grade gear over ugl. Truth is I pay a third of the price for ugl, which means I can run 3 times as much. And honestly I am much bigger than most people.

So please run your low doses of human grade gear and be happy with being a little over 200 pounds. And I will run my ugl's and stay above 260 with abs at the young tender age of 24.

pic?
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: bywhatevermeans on April 09, 2013, 07:03:08 AM
pic?

I will not and never will show pictures of myself on a steroid forum. Sorry, it is something I am not willing to do.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: bigmc on April 09, 2013, 07:04:38 AM
I will not and never will show pictures of myself on a steroid forum. Sorry, it is something I am not willing to do.

so i guess we will have to take your word for it that you are bigger than Phil Heath

not like anyone makes shit up on the internet

future mr o props  8)
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: Borracho on April 09, 2013, 07:06:08 AM
I'm a little bigger than heath myself...just a little wider.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: Overload on April 09, 2013, 07:06:58 AM
Seems reasonable to be honest.  I've seen guys "lists" that did more than this.

Oddly enough, the biggest body builders and power lifters i have met in my life used nothing but UGL products.  I'm a firm believer that HG products are simply cleaner and that's about it.  The two sources I've known over the years would intentionally overdose their gear to make people think it was "better", when in reality it was just a little stronger.


8)
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: falco on April 09, 2013, 08:38:35 AM
(http://steroidchoice.com/image/cache/data/Icon/Andreas%20Munzer-600x600.jpg)
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: falco on April 09, 2013, 08:42:58 AM
doctor,that way, its also all legal :D

can get test and gh if i want.

This is were? I believe you are european like me?
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: dustin on April 09, 2013, 08:44:15 AM
(http://steroidchoice.com/image/cache/data/Icon/Andreas%20Munzer-600x600.jpg)

This is sort of what I look like right now. A little less conditioned but a bit bigger than this twink. Just taking a couple of winstrol tablets every other month and making sure to pay attention to my macronutrient timing. Keeping an eye on my fiber and making sure to abstain from heme iron too. I'd have the same conditioning if I cared, but I don't. Just enjoying training and enjoying an easy to maintain physique. 8)
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: bywhatevermeans on April 09, 2013, 08:46:19 AM
so i guess we will have to take your word for it that you are bigger than Phil Heath

not like anyone makes shit up on the internet

future mr o props  8)

not bigger than phil heath, i'm 6 inches taller than him though. My shoulders are much much wider than his as well. Honestly, when I use to box as a teenager I was a super heavyweight which means 201 pounds+. running almost 5 grams of gear helps as well.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: falco on April 09, 2013, 08:52:26 AM
This is sort of what I look like right now. A little less conditioned but a bit bigger than this twink. Just taking a couple of winstrol tablets every other month and making sure to pay attention to my macronutrient timing. Keeping an eye on my fiber and making sure to abstain from heme iron too. I'd have the same conditioning if I cared, but I don't. Just enjoying training and enjoying an easy to maintain physique. 8)

We have pro material right here ::)!
(http://media.lolwall.co/c/2013/03/lmao_260666-250x.jpeg)
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: dustin on April 09, 2013, 08:59:13 AM
We have pro material right here ::)!
(http://media.lolwall.co/c/2013/03/lmao_260666-250x.jpeg)

I'd post pics but I'm too lazy. Gotta make another protein shake and fuck 10/10 whores by the truckload.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: bigmc on April 09, 2013, 09:02:10 AM
not bigger than phil heath, i'm 6 inches taller than him though. My shoulders are much much wider than his as well. Honestly, when I use to box as a teenager I was a super heavyweight which means 201 pounds+. running almost 5 grams of gear helps as well.

i dont believe you

but good luck running five grams of gear a week if you are
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: Borracho on April 09, 2013, 11:37:27 AM
this is because youre a fatso.

you train and do steroids only to not show off.

yeah right ::)



I'm gonna have a meeting with ron this week to have the name of this place changed to getlean.com in your honor brother!
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: ukjeff on April 09, 2013, 11:45:07 AM
Quote
see this is the perfect example.

so this guy is 6f3 or so 260 with "abs" on 5 freaking grams of gear.and he thinks his gear is any good.
 
im 6ft, 6% bodyfat(not "with abs", but all shredded) 210-220 on hrt.

this guy has no mass whatsoever and uses 5 gramms and thinks he ate the wiseness with huge spoons

Lol, 5gms, stupid fucker.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: Borracho on April 09, 2013, 11:53:53 AM
I saw a post in the steroid section he's gonna run 1500 mg of deca  ;D
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: ukjeff on April 09, 2013, 11:56:18 AM
(http://api.ning.com/files/fJjYVcsSk39eeiT0Lqd0FpSsIgsyJM7mWxkohT2DyDA*eRjX9ODRtyxziH45ZMqSzG9XYLye6tzLhBL-7ew7BPBZTS406ih3/PolycysticKidneys.jpg)
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: Borracho on April 09, 2013, 12:05:59 PM
this looks delicious,man.

do you know, where im originaly from, we have a meal thats called "cevapcici", i swear looks retty much the same,google it ;D

and yeah the guy gonna shit out his kidneys eventualy from the bloodpressure issues.
its clear as daylight now, we have to do with an individual who confuses steroid bloat with real muscle, commonly refered to as permabulker who "will cut later on"(usualy they stop training and never to be heard or seen of again.they piss out the bloat and realize theres fuck all left during diet and go off, and are remembered as the guy in the gym who looked like a fatso who decided to train a bit to lose weight.

sometimes they reapear on tv or in some docus as the "victims" of steroid side effect, notoriously bitch titts or potency issues.
that deca idea i would bet he goten from bfg's thread ::)
that deca gonna shut down his dick nicely for some while.


lol you guessed it...the bfg thread.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: arce1988 on April 09, 2013, 12:08:10 PM
(http://www.pbfingers.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/apple-fritter-008.jpg)
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: bigmc on April 09, 2013, 12:09:05 PM
isnt it funny that the biggest leanest guys are the ones that wont post pics  ???
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: OTHstrong on April 09, 2013, 12:17:32 PM
(http://www.pbfingers.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/apple-fritter-008.jpg)
That looks like what the doctor showed me when I got my gynocamastia surgery, the mammary glands and the actual gyno,  :P disgusting, lol.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: OTHstrong on April 09, 2013, 12:28:29 PM
Seems reasonable to be honest.  I've seen guys "lists" that did more than this.

Oddly enough, the biggest body builders and power lifters i have met in my life used nothing but UGL products.  I'm a firm believer that HG products are simply cleaner and that's about it.  The two sources I've known over the years would intentionally overdose their gear to make people think it was "better", when in reality it was just a little stronger.


8)
I agree with this 100%.

I will not argue with anyone who say ug's are underdosed or fake cause they may live in a different part of the world and that may have been their experience, I don't know. I mean if you came across a couple different fake ug gear you would think all ug is fake, I guess......so whoever claims this has their reasons for claiming this.

But I do know this that here and Canada every ug lab is real gear, the last time I saw something fake was like 5 + years ago, however I do not get domestic but I know what is around from all my gym bodies and hanging out at the bodybuilding shows. Now the ug stuff I take is stronger the any human grade I have ever taken, I am 100% sure of this, certainly overdosed if anything.

Now GH is a whole different story, obviously generics are no match for human grade, not even close, ....... OH SHIT I STAND CORRECTED, KIGTROPINS ARE, LMAO.. ;D
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: BFG on April 09, 2013, 12:39:19 PM
Regarding the idea that people need to use that volume of gear because its actually underdosed or fake...I strongly disagree. Most of these guys have been juicing non stop, in increasing dosages for 15-20 years. If your first cycle was 500mg's of testosterone when you were 160lbs, 15 years ago, do you really think that 500mg's of testosterone will be enough to incite further growth after 15 years of heavy juicing later now that you weigh 250lbs?? Of course there are diminishing returns...just like anything else. The first time you do a cycle of gear its not uncommon to gain 20-30lbs (much of it being water and glycogen, but still) - you will almost NEVER see those same results again. EVER. Eventually it will take another GRAM of gear to gain another 5lbs of muscle...thats just the way the body works once you push it to these supraphysiological levels.

Would these guys look basically the same on half the doses? No. Whether you have horrible genetics or the best genetics in the world, 700mg's of tren vs 1400mg's of tren is a HUGE difference. Are you going to experience more negative side effects on 5 grams of gear than on 1 gram? Definitely but you will also grow bigger muscles.

I will also say, as a few others have noted, this is a relatively "mild" stack for a high level pro competition. Not much slin, not a ton of GH and a pretty standard amount and variety of anabolics. I've seen some guys who can never get past top 5 in the nats running some INSANE doses and spending shitloads on really random compounds hoping thatll be the key to their growth...I remember one guy who was perpetually banging his head on the wall at nationals spending a rediculous amount to run about 1.5 grams of MENT
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: bywhatevermeans on April 09, 2013, 05:44:52 PM
6'1, and I am much bigger than you galeniko, as well as most of you on this forum. I can run whatever I want to be honest, and you are entitled to believe whatever it is that you want. Fact is I am younger and bigger than most of you. I can tolerate more gear as well, it's just how it is. And sorry for not wanting to post pictures on myself on a forum dealing with illegal substances. I guess i'm just an idiot for not wanting to incriminate myself.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: bywhatevermeans on April 09, 2013, 05:46:18 PM
this is because youre a fatso.

you train and do steroids only to not show off.

yeah right ::)



Jealousy is an ugly trait old man
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: sean on April 09, 2013, 05:55:08 PM
A little late for this.. but everyone looked like absolute garbage at the arnold so this stack or the other.. doesnt really matter. No body used this amount of jazz back maybe 25-30 years ago and all looked 100% better than the lineup this year.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on April 09, 2013, 06:48:41 PM
6'1, and I am much bigger than you galeniko, as well as most of you on this forum. I can run whatever I want to be honest, and you are entitled to believe whatever it is that you want. Fact is I am younger and bigger than most of you. I can tolerate more gear as well, it's just how it is. And sorry for not wanting to post pictures on myself on a forum dealing with illegal substances. I guess i'm just an idiot for not wanting to incriminate myself.

Just Cut your face out brah....this is just the internets, nobody's gonna get you
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: Borracho on April 09, 2013, 07:02:24 PM
I found his pic....

6'1 260 lbs with abs

















(http://www.funnyzone.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/funnyzonedotorg.jpg)
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: arce1988 on April 09, 2013, 07:24:34 PM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/%C4%86evap%C4%8Di%C4%87i.jpg/200px-%C4%86evap%C4%8Di%C4%87i.jpg)
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: leadhead on April 09, 2013, 07:46:34 PM
I remember the days of finaplex pellets and cheap convertable tren. My last cycle back then was of prop/tren included 700mg per week of tren and I felt like absolute shit but looked my best. I have much respect for the BB's who can handle high doses of tren.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: ChristopherA on April 09, 2013, 08:31:49 PM
not bigger than phil heath, i'm 6 inches taller than him though. My shoulders are much much wider than his as well. Honestly, when I use to box as a teenager I was a super heavyweight which means 201 pounds+. running almost 5 grams of gear helps as well.
How much gh do you run?
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: arce1988 on April 09, 2013, 08:33:05 PM
 Super Chicken Method
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: arce1988 on April 09, 2013, 08:33:45 PM
(http://evostudies.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Super-Chicken.jpg)
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: arce1988 on April 09, 2013, 08:35:04 PM
(http://armandofitnessexpert.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/superchicken.bmp)
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: jon cole on April 09, 2013, 08:50:21 PM
btw, sorry i meant above 1or2 shots propionate will shut you down enough in one week, one shot enanthate will shut you down nicely within 2 weeks.

but either way, you can just tell the docs that you feel tired all the time and cannot fuck,as in no sex drive and stiffy and self suggest hrt, and theyll be fine with it.
you you dont even need to tell any reason whatsoever.

up to 500mg weekly can be negotiate, but 250 weekly you always get.which i think is enough anyway.

retest is up to you.
theyd probably look better on lower doses, less gut,less sides, only unnoticeably smaller.
that is, if they actually take these dosages which are posted from faceless randoms on the internet out of thin air and alleged hearsay ::)
i was saying this all along.

whoever uses these dosages i urge them to stop being delusional and have their gear tested.

i swear 250-500mg test e weekly from legit pharmacy stuff will do better than a gramm of ugl bunk.

the people are so stupid its crazy, they think some ugl chief who dont even the fuck knows wtf hes getting from china as powder will somehow roduce a better product than a multi billion global pharma company.haha,theres one born every minute.

i have tried some basic ugl test e for there was nothing else available once, from sourc where all the twinks sworn up and down how amazing the stuff is(however you couldnt tell they liftes, let alone juiced),and i swear on my mother, that stuff is atleast 3-4 times weaker than the doctors stuff, it cannot even be compared.
ll i dont even wanna know what crap is in those alleged eqiupoise,tren and so forth ampoulas.haha.

every batch needs testing,they cannot be trusted, hell they canot even trust themselves.

"i know some good sources,mine is legit", yeah i hear that all the time, from ppl looking worse than me, as in less muscle.and they run doses which i wouldnt have the balls to run,ever.

i mean by all means, i dont give a fuck they can take whatever they want, but dont tell me you got legit good gear when your smaller than me and youre running a gramm of test.someone who runs a gramm of legit test should absolutely dwarf me.

not to mention tren,haha, oh boy tren is best one , ppl run this "tren" and look like total shit and tell me how good it is.yeah right.

very good comment, when the parabolan was out there the heavyweights didnt dare to take more than 3 shots of 76mg weekly.
ppl who trained seriously for decades.

and now come some random twinks who dont even know what to eat and train legs once in 2months and they on tren 100mg evbery day.haha.




yes my friend i trust you.

one of my best friend, a former chemical daredevil always told me that the best cycle for him was 500mg of ug testoviron, and 3 amp of genuine negma parabolan (76mg each), no more , no less.
he told me that the stuff was insane and 226mg of real para was barely supportable even for him (250lbs of lean bodyweight).

the off season stack was 500mg testoviron and 400mg of extraboline (old deca), sometime 750/600 but he told me you can't support too long at that dose.

i laugh when i see average cycle of rat gym in us forum "1000mg of test and 800 of bold, should i had tren ace 300mg e.w?"


back in the 2003 a batch of sustanon from holland (direct from pharmacy) was sold in the gym for a time, 1 amp e.w was more than enough, 2 amp and guy at the gym goes nuts.


Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: arce1988 on April 09, 2013, 08:55:14 PM
when the parabolan was out there the heavyweights didnt dare to take more than 3 shots of 76mg weekly.
ppl who trained seriously for decades.

and now come some random twinks who dont even know what to eat and train legs once in 2months and they on tren 100mg evbery day.haha.


;D
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: OTHstrong on April 09, 2013, 10:04:49 PM
when the parabolan was out there the heavyweights didnt dare to take more than 3 shots of 76mg weekly.
ppl who trained seriously for decades.

and now come some random twinks who dont even know what to eat and train legs once in 2months and they on tren 100mg evbery day.haha.


;D
The funny thing is I know a few who have taken a cc per day of the Parabolon from Negma, The legit one that was around over 10 years ago. :)
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: ukjeff on April 09, 2013, 10:37:40 PM
Quote
The funny thing is I know a few who have taken a cc per day of the Parabolon from Negma, The legit one that was around over 10 years ago.
its not funny, the circle of people you mix in is the "all gear ,no idea" group.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: OTHstrong on April 09, 2013, 11:14:02 PM
its not funny, the circle of people you mix in is the "all gear ,no idea" group.
what would it take for you to get it, no one cares about what you say, out of every 5-7 posts you get one reply and most of them are from me cause most of your posts are directed towards me.

So get lost, I am no longer interested in what you got to say and you stick posts in between other people's conversations and interest which is not only rude cause they have nothing to do with the thread just personal attacks and mockeries but they derail the threads and cause people to lose interest in the thread cause of your whiny little posts trying to get something out of me, talk about being an annoying little bitch. WOW UNBELIEVABLE
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: Borracho on April 09, 2013, 11:26:47 PM
what would it take for you to get it, no one cares about what you say, out of every 5-7 posts you get one reply and most of them are from me cause most of your posts are directed towards me.

So get lost, I am no longer interested in what you got to say and you stick posts in between other people's conversations and interest which is not only rude cause they have nothing to do with the thread just personal attacks and mockeries but they derail the threads and cause people to lose interest in the thread cause of your whiny little posts trying to get something out of me, talk about being an annoying little bitch. WOW UNBELIEVABLE

Straight up!
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: OTHstrong on April 09, 2013, 11:29:41 PM
Straight up!
;)
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: falco on April 10, 2013, 03:11:35 AM
I'd post pics but I'm too lazy. Gotta make another protein shake and fuck 10/10 whores by the truckload.

(http://troll.me/images/brick-tamland/lmao-seriously.jpg)
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: dj181 on April 10, 2013, 03:17:34 AM
looks like ukjeff is to OTH what grion was to me :D :D :D
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: OTHstrong on April 10, 2013, 03:41:52 AM
looks like ukjeff is to OTH what grion was to me :D :D :D
;D
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: whitewidow on April 10, 2013, 03:43:31 AM
sorry bro, but you can only speak for yourself on this, not for me. i have run tren as low as 100mgs per week just to see if i could use it at all and not get sides. within 3 weeks i was a completely different person. aggression, depression, fucked up thoughts you dont even wanna hear about etc..

everyone is different, body chemistry etc..

i cannot run tren at any dose, nips puff up and i turn into a fucken borderline rapist nutjob. lmao

lol- yes lets keep you off any kind of trenbolone esters. I honestly think the healthier you are going into a cycle the less side-effects you wil have.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: whitewidow on April 10, 2013, 04:21:28 AM
I would go with Alpha-pharma gear , Testovirons, Alpha-pharmas HGH is also top notch stuff! with the DEA not allowing San Rafael Chemical Services to do lab tests for the gneral public underground gear is a risk to buy! I am sure there are some great  underground labs out there but without being able to do 3rd party lab tests they are to hard to trust. Some  batches might be great and the next batch could be total shit.
Your best bet is to stockpile human grade gear when you are off-cycle and get ready to get jacked up when you go back on. Always remember if you are not getting paid to be a bodybuilder take it easy on the dosages. It's great to look good and get alot of props from everybody but it's not worth risking health issues. just make sure you do your research and always take threads like this with a grain of salt. This cycle BFG posted could be spot on or complete BS. I like BFG's post and he def knows his bodybuiding but there is no proof this cycle was really used.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: Spidey on April 10, 2013, 04:32:57 AM
It's testosterone and tren run together - drop test run tren high with no issues - It's the  estrogen and progesterone working together and the sides are nasty for those that are sensitive to them - drop test to 125 - 250mg and you can run tren with no issues at 100 - 150mg per day.

This! Look at my avatar 50mg prop\day 75mg or 100mg tren ace\day (cant remember) and diet. Lots of sweat but no crazy homicidal tendencies :p
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: bywhatevermeans on April 10, 2013, 06:29:19 AM
HI my name is Galeniko. I'm an old fuck whose been on gear for over twenty years and is barely bigger than a high school senior. Im like 210 and havn't gained a pound in years. But it's ok, cause i'm like 6 percent bodyfat and I use only the best HG gear around. It might seem like i'm weak as fuck but it's becaue I use perfect form. Branch Warren don't have shit on me. I havn't gotten pussy in god knows how long cause i'm always on here running my keyboard off at anyone who might be bigger than me. And btw, there's no way you could be bigger than me even though you use more gear, train harder, and eat more. just not possible.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: deviant on April 10, 2013, 06:46:29 AM
HI my name is Galeniko. I'm an old fuck whose been on gear for over twenty years and is barely bigger than a high school senior. Im like 210 and havn't gained a pound in years. But it's ok, cause i'm like 6 percent bodyfat and I use only the best HG gear around. It might seem like i'm weak as fuck but it's becaue I use perfect form. Branch Warren don't have shit on me. I havn't gotten pussy in god knows how long cause i'm always on here running my keyboard off at anyone who might be bigger than me. And btw, there's no way you could be bigger than me even though you use more gear, train harder, and eat more. just not possible.

Lol.....however i enjoy his posts and he does talk sense.

The size thing is a non issue, i've used gear on and off for 10 years yet currently weigh 196 lbs....just not interested in lifting for size anymore and certainly dont eat the amount i used to when i weighed 20 lbs more...i train with weights (and use some gear) to benefit the kick boxing classes i attend....not everybody wants to be permanently bulked up.
I'm a short arse so when i weighed 220 lbs i had a bitch of a time finding clothes that fitted properly, would get out of breath walking up stairs and the worst of the lot was sweating when i ate....fuck that, just not my thing anymore and i can fully understand where Galenika is coming from.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: falco on April 10, 2013, 08:52:45 AM
HI my name is Galeniko. I'm an old fuck whose been on gear for over twenty years and is barely bigger than a high school senior. Im like 210 and havn't gained a pound in years. But it's ok, cause i'm like 6 percent bodyfat and I use only the best HG gear around. It might seem like i'm weak as fuck but it's becaue I use perfect form. Branch Warren don't have shit on me. I havn't gotten pussy in god knows how long cause i'm always on here running my keyboard off at anyone who might be bigger than me. And btw, there's no way you could be bigger than me even though you use more gear, train harder, and eat more. just not possible.

LMAO!
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: arce1988 on April 10, 2013, 01:56:21 PM
 galeniko is a stud
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: anabolichalo on April 10, 2013, 01:58:43 PM
2cc = how many ml? 

I see they dropped the test out at 4 weeks out, is this common protocol for pros?
lol :D
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: BigRo on April 10, 2013, 02:17:12 PM
lol :D

do you find it funny me asking such a dumb question? I am no rocket scientist but just do what I need to do  ;)
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: anabolichalo on April 10, 2013, 02:26:11 PM
do you find it funny me asking such a dumb question? I am no rocket scientist but just do what I need to do  ;)
legendary physique

is that you?


yes laughing at not knowing a cc is an ml



since i am a rocket surgeon i take this things for granted
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: BigRo on April 10, 2013, 02:29:44 PM
yes that's me:)  no one over here talks cc language!
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: bigmc on April 10, 2013, 02:34:35 PM
looks like ukjeff is to OTH what grion was to me :D :D :D

not quite

groink looked a thousand times better than you

you fucking suck groink didnt

you are the biggest ass kissing beta on the site stfu
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: arce1988 on April 10, 2013, 02:35:36 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: monstermunch on April 10, 2013, 02:39:59 PM
do you find it funny me asking such a dumb question? I am no rocket scientist but just do what I need to do  ;)

Pose down at the solicitors...was this before or after your hairy muscle bear took legal custody of you?
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: BigRo on April 10, 2013, 02:48:27 PM
Pose down at the solicitors...was this before or after your hairy muscle bear took legal custody of you?

lol when I said do what I need to do, I didn't mean being owned by a hairy muscle bear!
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: monstermunch on April 10, 2013, 04:13:04 PM
Meltdown  ;D
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: bywhatevermeans on April 10, 2013, 04:45:52 PM
galeniko is a stud

NO he's not. He's the old creep that stands in the corner of the bar/club wearing an undersized affliction t-shirt. And whenever a female so much as looks his way he pulls the abs of steel move, and at that point he's locked in. He will follow the female around all night using the creeper stare of death and the ab flash until she has no choice put to inform the bouncer or simply leave. The bartenders hate him cause he doesn't drink or tip for his sparkling water.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: bywhatevermeans on April 10, 2013, 05:18:08 PM
Scenario1:
Person: I started using tren and it burned up a lot of my bodyfat
Galeniko: Tren does not burn bodyfat, it creates a fat burning enviroment

Scenario2:
Person: I got a fan for my room to cool me down
Galeniko: The fan does not cool you down, it creates a cool enviroment

UHHHHHHH....
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: arce1988 on April 10, 2013, 05:19:16 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on April 10, 2013, 05:21:52 PM
Scenario1:
Person: I started using tren and it burned up a lot of my bodyfat
Galeniko: Tren does not burn bodyfat, it creates a fat burning enviroment

Scenario2:
Person: I got a fan for my room to cool me down
Galeniko: The fan does not cool you down, it creates a cool enviroment

UHHHHHHH....


Shut your dirty whore mouth. Galeniko is a legend.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: WillGrant on April 10, 2013, 05:30:49 PM
you believe tren burn bodyfat?


 ;D

It does increase Thermogenesis bro - Increase in body temp will burn more calories - coupled with intense training and diet programe tren will get you bigger and leaner faster than any compound out there.

Also the rapid increase in Muscle mass naturally puts the body into a fat burning state - more lean tissue will burn and use body fat as fuel..

So looking at it like this , then yes tren does burn bodyfat..

This is why cattle given fina were bigger and leaner even with the extra estrogen added for total weight gain.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: WillGrant on April 10, 2013, 05:32:56 PM
It does increase Thermogenesis bro - Increase in body temp will burn more calories - coupled with intense training and diet programe tren will get you bigger and leaner faster than any compound out there.

Also the rapid increase in Muscle mass naturally puts the body into a fat burning state - more lean tissue will burn and use body fat as fuel..

So looking at it like this , then yes tren does burn bodyfat..

This is why cattle given fina were bigger and leaner even with the extra estrogen added for total weight gain.
And here's the proof  :D

(http://www.buzzinn.net/img/bizarre-and-odd/weird-female-bodybuilder/weird-female-bodybuilder11.jpg)
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: Borracho on April 10, 2013, 05:47:38 PM
Shut your dirty whore mouth. Galeniko is a legend.

x2

And still no pic!
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: Borracho on April 10, 2013, 05:51:20 PM
Interesting video on tren

Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: arce1988 on April 10, 2013, 06:52:06 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: DroppingPlates on April 10, 2013, 11:38:13 PM
What's more scary, the swivel-eyed face or the implants ??? :-X
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: Mawse on April 11, 2013, 12:24:25 AM
 LOL @ the broscience. cattle also gain massive amounts of bodyweight from clen and standing in a field all day eating nothing but grass. Tren does not burn bodyfat anymore than any other androgen, in fact abusing it can make you gain bodyfat from the prolactin (especially visceral fat) and lowered DHT

 I like galineko, hes a good fella and inspired me to drop my doses even more (500 a week total) and do more cardio and stop eating so much to get down to 205 by summer. Anyone can be a bloated sack of shit on mega grams, but it's a waste of the best years of your life if you dont have the genetics to look good on that abuse

Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: Spidey on April 11, 2013, 12:29:45 AM
they guy is on trenbolone!! He says 2 sentences and he's completely out of breath ahahahahah
Nice vid btw
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: Mawse on April 11, 2013, 09:25:55 AM
thx,man, likewise,i like you too, a very smart mind.

the guy in the video spouts so much shit, my head started hurting.if that is what ppl belive, may god have mercy on them. ;D

i think if you asked the guy whether it was him who invented the wheel hed straight up say yes ofcourse,who else.

i mean, everybody is free to follow his "advice" and try it ;D

I just forced myself to watch the video,skinny fat guy who doesnt look like he trains 'knows all about drugs' but is 'natural' to excuse looking like shit, has a million videos about the best way to train diet and use drugs.

Magic Tren that lets you eat unlimited carbs and just burn them all off would be awesome
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: monstermunch on April 11, 2013, 01:33:58 PM
ill take the video apart later on.

dead serious,man, i was thinking the whole time its a parody video.was genuinely thinking hes taking the piss.



He posts on GH15s site  ;D
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: deadz on April 11, 2013, 02:31:38 PM
And here's the proof  :D

(http://www.buzzinn.net/img/bizarre-and-odd/weird-female-bodybuilder/weird-female-bodybuilder11.jpg)
Ripitup looking Huge!
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: falco on April 11, 2013, 02:47:24 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/NQa4AHY.gif)
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: Nails on April 11, 2013, 02:50:17 PM
damn its probably easier to be a heroin addict
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: bywhatevermeans on April 11, 2013, 02:58:51 PM
I hope that your first language isn't english galeniko. The way you structure your sentences would lead one to believe that you are illiterate. You should ask your wife or kids to help you write. O wait, You don't have either because your a complete fucking tool and your entire life is based on this board. Loser, you tapped out. Now time for me to go for the night, got a late class tonight. it's gonna suck though cause it's on the second floor and there's not elevator in the building. Usually I make it up the stairs and break out into a sweat. O well, i'm huge and strong. I'll live.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: ukjeff on April 11, 2013, 03:05:17 PM
Quote
O well, i'm huge and strong. I'll live.
But not for long
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: Borracho on April 11, 2013, 04:11:56 PM
haha yeah the guy exaggerates quite a bit especially wrt to the nutrient partitioning effects of the steroid but he does bring up an important factor and that's estrogen. Not long ago everyone was "bulking" with test, dec, and dbol. Now there's been a shift and people are using drier compounds like tren, masteron and eq to gain mass.

Also, a lot of guys have dropped the test dose considerably so overall we now have less estrogen and people have been able to eat a lot of food without getting the massive amount of bloat the typical test,deca, dbol would bring on. And high estrogen is also associated with fat storage but than again so are high prolactin levels....

I don't believe that tren burns fat by itself but every steroid will enhance the way your body utilizes the food you take in. Maybe the lack of bloat/water gain has lead people to believe it burns fat  ???

Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on April 11, 2013, 06:54:36 PM
galeniko has a lot of haters. I'm kind of jealous of that type of attention
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: ChristopherA on April 11, 2013, 07:14:57 PM
galeniko has a lot of haters. I'm kind of jealous of that type of attention
Would it make you feel better if I told you I hate you?
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: ChristopherA on April 11, 2013, 07:22:07 PM
I hope that your first language isn't english galeniko. The way you structure your sentences would lead one to believe that you are illiterate. You should ask your wife or kids to help you write. O wait, You don't have either because your a complete fucking tool and your entire life is based on this board. Loser, you tapped out. Now time for me to go for the night, got a late class tonight. it's gonna suck though cause it's on the second floor and there's not elevator in the building. Usually I make it up the stairs and break out into a sweat. O well, i'm huge and strong. I'll live.
Naw, that's where you lose me. The second floor is winding you? What good is being huge if that's the price? I can go run a couple miles right now and still dunk a basketball
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: dj181 on April 12, 2013, 05:02:42 AM
damn its probably easier to be a heroin addict

lol
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: anabolichalo on April 12, 2013, 10:54:46 AM
yes, or do something called sex for more than 2 minutes before gassing out.
theres something to it, gives more energy than just "you look good".hard to explain in words.
its similiar to when you come to a club, and the women have vaginal meltdowns from seeing you and their boyfrends try desperately to sway their attention to some random thing at the other side of the room.

 :D

they can try whatvever they want, they know inside, the damage is permanently done, the girl would like to choke on my sausage.she will think of me when theyre in bed.his worst nightmare has happened.

 :)
this happened when my girl friend saw ronnie coleman in person

she was all over him

then one day i got home and my signatured ronnie coleman pic was hanging on the bedroom wall

she had found it somewhere put away, framed it and put it on the wall

Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: bywhatevermeans on April 12, 2013, 04:13:57 PM
Naw, that's where you lose me. The second floor is winding you? What good is being huge if that's the price? I can go run a couple miles right now and still dunk a basketball

It is what it is man, it's a personal choice. My trainer and myself decided I need to be at 290, 8/9% bodyfat, then we'll cut down and go for that pro card. It all comes with the territory. You see the videos of these guys on the internet getting winded just cooking there meals, it's not for everyone, but it is for me. And some people are gonna hate on your for it no matter what, it's mostly envy but that's all well and good. Guys like galeniko secretly masturbate to the mass monsters of this world, they always wanted  that for themselves but never had the drive to get there.

Also is English your first language or is it like your first language? You are illiterate, and you can't possibly be at work that much, because your on here all day. You sir, are a closet homosexual. You should embrace it dude, it's 2013.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: arce1988 on April 12, 2013, 04:37:26 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: bywhatevermeans on April 12, 2013, 04:47:29 PM
Actually 6'1 268, 8% bodyfat. 23 years old. Yes I will have a pro card
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: bywhatevermeans on April 12, 2013, 04:49:10 PM
45 years old 6'0 200 pounds, 10%. Yes you are a tool. NO family, no friends, ur probably impotent. Stupid haircut, nothing to do on a friday night. Gay as fuck, Ur moms a slut
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: DroppingPlates on April 12, 2013, 05:04:23 PM
45 years old 6'0 200 pounds, 10%. Yes you are a tool. NO family, no friends, ur probably impotent. Stupid haircut, nothing to do on a friday night. Gay as fuck, Ur moms a slut

^^
Says the anonymous permabulking and attention whoring keyboard warrior  ::)
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on April 12, 2013, 11:18:49 PM
so you say youre leaner than me?

and lol at guesstimating me at 10%.

nothing to do on friday night?ouch, man, i was out and have slayed another one.

and in couple hours, the next ones will come for bit breakfast and sex.im very demanded by the female world.

meanwhile i encourage you to go pro, by any means necesary.do everything it takes, no looking back ;D

This clown is a gimmick, broham.  No way he is for real.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: C-BuZz on April 12, 2013, 11:27:33 PM
45 years old 6'0 200 pounds, 10%. Yes you are a tool. NO family, no friends, ur probably impotent. Stupid haircut, nothing to do on a friday night. Gay as fuck, Ur moms a slut

(http://s10.postimg.org/xhyq5rs9l/The_atomic_bomb.jpg)

BRUTAL 23yr old "BRAH" meltdown. This one wont be here very long boys.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: ukjeff on April 13, 2013, 06:58:23 AM
Quote
My trainerschmoe and myself decided I need to be at 290
Is it so you get so gassed you cant get away from him?
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: bywhatevermeans on April 13, 2013, 07:24:12 AM
I challenge you galeniko to for a complete sentence. I am absolutely leaner than you, no question about that. I'm guessing by your non response that you agree you have no family or friends. Not a surprise considering your probably an ex drug addict. Based off you illiteracy and addiction to this board I would say your definitely making up for something else.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: bywhatevermeans on April 13, 2013, 07:27:26 AM
And trying to go pro is very hard. I had to bear having sex with galeniko's mom 3 times just so I could afford the drugs and food required. Good thing I use 2 g of test. that was the only thing that kept my dick up. That and a good imagination.

Gimmick, call me what you want, you do the same thing. Sit behind a keyboard and talk random shit to random people. Fact is, im glad your doing better Galinko, and i'm very proud of you for beating your addiction. I hope that one day your parents will be proud of you and you find some friends that you can give enough time to, so that you can at least spend one day away from this board. I believe in you. and uh.... your moms a huge slut, btw
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: ukjeff on April 13, 2013, 07:37:56 AM
Quote
I am absolutely leaner than you, no question about that.
pics or it hasnt happened.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on April 13, 2013, 08:10:02 AM
And trying to go pro is very hard. I had to bear having sex with galeniko's mom 3 times just so I could afford the drugs and food required. Good thing I use 2 g of test. that was the only thing that kept my dick up. That and a good imagination.

Gimmick, call me what you want, you do the same thing. Sit behind a keyboard and talk random shit to random people. Fact is, im glad your doing better Galinko, and i'm very proud of you for beating your addiction. I hope that one day your parents will be proud of you and you find some friends that you can give enough time to, so that you can at least spend one day away from this board. I believe in you. and uh.... your moms a huge slut, btw

You've just been added to "The List."

Nice knowin ya, pal.
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: bbrower on April 13, 2013, 08:28:53 AM
And trying to go pro is very hard. I had to bear having sex with galeniko's mom 3 times just so I could afford the drugs and food required. Good thing I use 2 g of test. that was the only thing that kept my dick up. That and a good imagination.

Gimmick, call me what you want, you do the same thing. Sit behind a keyboard and talk random shit to random people. Fact is, im glad your doing better Galinko, and i'm very proud of you for beating your addiction. I hope that one day your parents will be proud of you and you find some friends that you can give enough time to, so that you can at least spend one day away from this board. I believe in you. and uh.... your moms a huge slut, btw

Pathetic, childish behavior
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: ChristopherA on April 13, 2013, 08:33:58 AM
It is what it is man, it's a personal choice. My trainer and myself decided I need to be at 290, 8/9% bodyfat, then we'll cut down and go for that pro card. It all comes with the territory. You see the videos of these guys on the internet getting winded just cooking there meals, it's not for everyone, but it is for me. And some people are gonna hate on your for it no matter what, it's mostly envy but that's all well and good. Guys like galeniko secretly masturbate to the mass monsters of this world, they always wanted  that for themselves but never had the drive to get there.

Also is English your first language or is it like your first language? You are illiterate, and you can't possibly be at work that much, because your on here all day. You sir, are a closet homosexual. You should embrace it dude, it's 2013.
Me talking to me or Gal? I am hardly on here all day homie, I am at work all day. Wasnt hating on you either, just wouldnt suit me to be that big. I def appreciate someone with the genetics and drive to go all out like you are. How much gh a day you taking?
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: bigmc on April 13, 2013, 09:34:10 AM
bisomecockandbeans is clearly a gimmick

he should be banned for his outrageous slandering of get big heavy weights

while exagerrating his own weight by 130 lbs
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: ukjeff on April 13, 2013, 09:37:14 AM
bywhatevermeans in his bathroom
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-NSWCBr7f3Bk/Tjdfosk08zI/AAAAAAAAZp0/a_tdO7FmUTQ/s1600/tumblr_lp10yyZyKM1qfnac5o1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: Ronnie Rep on April 13, 2013, 01:54:42 PM
(http://www.pbfingers.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/apple-fritter-008.jpg)
Those are apple fritters love them!
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: arce1988 on April 13, 2013, 03:35:38 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: JUMPER on May 10, 2013, 10:04:38 PM
Bfg how do you recommend running dnp?
Title: Re: Sample Drug Protocol from IFBB Pro from 2013 Arnold Classic
Post by: JUMPER on May 17, 2013, 05:28:26 AM
Bump for the big guy