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Title: Breaking:huge explosion at fertiliser plant in Waco
Post by: Army of One on April 17, 2013, 06:32:54 PM
Holy shit, the size of that

http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/Explosion-Injuries-Reported-At-West-Fertilizer-Plant-203505331.html?mobile=yes&device=ipad
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Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on April 17, 2013, 06:41:27 PM
 :o
Title: Re: Breaking:huge explosion at fertiliser plant in Waco
Post by: The Ugly on April 17, 2013, 06:43:23 PM
I think fertilizer is explosive. Probably just an accident.
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Post by: viking1 on April 17, 2013, 06:44:06 PM
Damn. Sad about the nursing home injuries. :(
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Post by: Nails on April 17, 2013, 06:44:30 PM
Damn that a big blast of cow fumes
Title: Re: Breaking:huge explosion at fertiliser plant in Waco
Post by: slate on April 17, 2013, 06:46:04 PM
FALSE FLAG
FALSE FLAG
FALSE FLAG
FALSE FLAG


 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Breaking:huge explosion at fertiliser plant in Waco
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 17, 2013, 06:52:51 PM
David Koresh has risen from the dead.
Title: Re: Breaking:huge explosion at fertiliser plant in Waco
Post by: Voice of Doom on April 17, 2013, 06:53:15 PM
Ban shit!
Title: Re: Breaking:huge explosion at fertiliser plant in Waco
Post by: Nails on April 17, 2013, 06:55:21 PM
Ban beautiful Green lawn grass
Title: Re: Breaking:huge explosion at fertiliser plant in Waco
Post by: The True Adonis on April 17, 2013, 06:55:55 PM
The bomb squad was just holding drills for the Illuminati sponsored Rothschild birthday party that is supposed to happen at an undisclosed Monsanto like Corporation.  
Title: Re: Breaking:huge explosion at fertiliser plant in Waco
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on April 17, 2013, 06:58:56 PM
The bomb squad was just holding drills for the Illuminati sponsored Rothschild birthday party that is supposed to happen at an undisclosed Monsanto like Corporation.  

 :)
Title: Re: Breaking:huge explosion at fertiliser plant in Waco
Post by: Nails on April 17, 2013, 07:30:49 PM
 :o :o





Title: Re: Breaking:huge explosion at fertiliser plant in Waco
Post by: Twaddle on April 17, 2013, 07:45:28 PM
Fook, there are reports that half the town is leveled.  Many buildings burning, many casualties.  Nursing home collapsed, many trapped inside.  Death toll is going to be up there.   :'(
Title: Re: Breaking:huge explosion at fertiliser plant in Waco
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on April 17, 2013, 07:56:08 PM
I think fertilizer is explosive. Probably just an accident.

lol...Google search the dates of this explosion with other Waco incidents and Oklahoma City bombing and then go play the lottery ;)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege    Ended April 19

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing   April 19
Title: Re: Breaking:huge explosion at fertiliser plant in Waco
Post by: el numero uno on April 17, 2013, 07:59:48 PM
I think fertilizer is explosive. Probably just an accident.

Fertilizer by itself can't be explosive. Any chemical product used in agriculture has to obey 2 rules:
- Not be toxic for the plant
- Not be flammable

HOWEVER, I'm not aware of the way the fertilizers are made and I bet some of the raw material are indeed flammable.
Title: Re: Breaking:huge explosion at fertiliser plant in Waco
Post by: Twaddle on April 17, 2013, 08:40:45 PM
lol...Google search the dates of this explosion with other Waco incidents and Oklahoma City bombing and then go play the lottery ;)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege    Ended April 19

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing   April 19

And?   ???
Title: Re: Breaking:huge explosion at fertiliser plant in Waco
Post by: Twaddle on April 17, 2013, 08:42:41 PM
Director of EMS in West is now saying 60-70 dead, and 200+ injured.  Fooking insane.   :'(
Title: Re: Breaking:huge explosion at fertiliser plant in Waco
Post by: TheTruth90 on April 17, 2013, 08:45:03 PM
Sulfur and phosphorus is highly flammable.
Title: Re: Breaking:huge explosion at fertiliser plant in Waco
Post by: Twaddle on April 17, 2013, 08:52:02 PM
 :o :o :o

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Post by: viking1 on April 17, 2013, 08:53:35 PM
Director of EMS in West is now saying 60-70 dead, and 200+ injured.  Fooking insane.   :'(

Damn!!!!!        What's the 3rd catastrophy that will happen after this one?    Crazy week...
Title: Re: Breaking:huge explosion at fertiliser plant in Waco
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on April 17, 2013, 08:59:49 PM
And?   ???

For years there has been talk of the week of Waco being deadly...


April 15, 2013 Boston
April 17, 2013  WACO plant
April 19, 2013 ???
Title: Re: Breaking:huge explosion at fertiliser plant in Waco
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on April 17, 2013, 09:01:20 PM
Damn!!!!!        What's the 3rd catastrophy that will happen after this one?    Crazy week...


Me being a betting man, I'd say friday April 19, 2013 might be a crazy day...
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Post by: viking1 on April 17, 2013, 09:04:10 PM
Me being a betting man, I'd say friday April 19, 2013 might be a crazy day...

Its moving west....   hmmm
Title: Re: Breaking:huge explosion at fertiliser plant in Waco
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on April 17, 2013, 09:04:17 PM
:o :o :o



holy shit
Title: Re: Breaking:huge explosion at fertiliser plant in Waco
Post by: 240 is Back on April 17, 2013, 09:08:15 PM
latest reports from nbc dallas

200+ injuries 40 critically
100+ homes/buisiness heavily damaged /destroyed
apartment complex has collapsed.
no fly zone in effect areound the town of west,texas
possibly as many as 60-70 fatalities
the blast was felt 30+ miles away
Title: Re: Breaking:huge explosion at fertiliser plant in Waco
Post by: TheTruth90 on April 17, 2013, 09:12:23 PM
:o :o :o



Damn, lol
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Post by: Natural Man on April 17, 2013, 09:16:27 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AZF_(factory)

Quote
On 4 October 2001, France's then Environment Minister Yves Cochet announced that the explosion "may have been a terrorist attack" (the explosion occurred in the weeks following the September 11 attacks) and identified Hassan Jandoubi, a plant sub-contractor killed in the blast, as a person under investigation. French anti terrorist authorities were prohibited by the Toulouse prosecutor from searching Jandoubi's house for five days after the incident.[4]
 
Police declared that Jandoubi had "possible Islamic fundamentalist sympathies," yet by the time the search was finally conducted, they alleged that Jandoubi's girlfriend had disposed of all traces of his clothes or photos. French authorities described the delay as damaging to the investigation.


isnt the boston bomber marocan?

(http://www.france24.com/en/files/imagecache/france24_169_large/article/image/AZF-o.jpg)

(http://www.fenvac.com/IMG/jpg/usine_azf_toulouse_46_8874b.jpg)
Title: Re: Breaking:huge explosion at fertiliser plant in Waco
Post by: 240 is Back on April 17, 2013, 09:18:55 PM
the dude being interviewed on cnn said 50 to 80 homes have been leveled, in his estimation.  A 5-block radius.  unreal.

MSNBC is now covering it.   FOX playing Hannity replay still.

blast felt 15 miiles away. 
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Post by: tommywishbone on April 17, 2013, 09:22:20 PM
:o :o :o



Damn!  That was an attention getter.
Title: Re: Breaking:huge explosion at fertiliser plant in Waco
Post by: Nails on April 17, 2013, 09:29:43 PM
For years there has been talk of the week of Waco being deadly...


April 15, 2013 Boston
April 17, 2013  WACO plant
April 19, 2013 ???

North Korea???
Title: Re: Breaking:huge explosion at fertiliser plant in Waco
Post by: arce1988 on April 17, 2013, 10:03:34 PM
   RIP
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Post by: L00n on April 18, 2013, 12:07:19 AM
how many casualties?
Title: Re: Breaking:huge explosion at fertiliser plant in Waco
Post by: Nails on April 18, 2013, 06:22:38 AM
how many casualties?


they do not know , from 5-70 they think
Title: Re: Breaking:huge explosion at fertiliser plant in Waco
Post by: Archer77 on April 18, 2013, 06:42:21 AM

they do not know , from 5-70 they think

That is terrible.  Heart goes out to the families. 
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Post by: True on April 18, 2013, 06:43:33 AM
:o :o :o



Haha, that shit scared the shit out of me! Im sorry, but I was so not expecting that blast, I thought the xplosion allready was done and over with... :P
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Post by: FitnessFrenzy on April 18, 2013, 06:45:01 AM
sounds like they tried to mix cell tech and PEDs
Title: Re: Breaking:huge explosion at fertiliser plant in Waco
Post by: Nails on April 18, 2013, 08:46:13 AM
sounds like they tried to mix cell tech and PEDs

Pop-rocks and coca-cola
Title: Re: Breaking:huge explosion at fertiliser plant in Waco
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on April 18, 2013, 08:58:39 AM
How far does Alex Jones live from this plant?
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Post by: viking1 on April 18, 2013, 11:51:36 AM
Me being a betting man, I'd say friday April 19, 2013 might be a crazy day...
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Post by: Soul Crusher on April 18, 2013, 11:55:50 AM

April 16, 2012, 12:02 am 12 Comments

April 16, 1947 | Fire Causes Huge Explosion in Texas City

By THE LEARNING NETWORK
 

Judge Alfred S. GersonResidents of Texas City examine the damage caused by the ammonium nitrate explosion.
 


http://learning.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/16/april-16-1947-fire-causes-huge-explosion-in-texas-city


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On April 16, 1947, America’s worst harbor explosion occurred in Texas City, Tex., when the French ship Grandcamp, carrying ammonium nitrate fertilizer, caught fire and blew up, devastating the town.  

An Associated Press article in the April 17 New York Times said: “Much of the boom industrial city of 15,000 population was destroyed or damaged. Property loss will run into millions of dollars. Fires followed the blasts. Poisonous gas from exploding chemicals was reported to be filtering through the area.”
 
The blast occurred when a small fire, perhaps caused by a cigarette, broke out on the Grandcamp. The captain ordered the ship’s hatches to be shut to protect the cargo of ammonium nitrate from being destroyed by water. The decision caused the fire to grow larger and hotter until it caused the ammonium nitrate to explode.
 
The Associated Press wrote: “A reporter flying over the scene likened it to bomb destruction of European cities in the recent war. The mushrooming cloud of smoke that arose was described as resembling the aftermath of the atom bombing of Hiroshima.”
 
The blast was felt in other parts of Texas; there were reports of shattered windows 40 miles away in Houston and 11 miles away in Galveston, where The A.P. said that many people fled “fearing an earthquake.” It registered on seismographs as far away as Colorado.



The fire also spread to a second ship, the High Flyer, which held ammonium nitrate. It burned the entire day and exploded at 1 a.m. on April 17. That explosion caused further damage to the city and destroyed another ship, but, because the city had been evacuated, only two people were killed.
 
The Grandcamp explosion and resulting fires killed more than 500 people and left 200 others missing. It also caused tens of millions of dollars in damage.
 
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Connect to Today:
 
In 2005, Texas City was home to another large explosion when a fire and explosion at a refinery owned by the British oil company BP killed 15 workers and injured more than 170 people. In 2010, soon after BP’s Gulf of Mexico oil spill, the company agreed to pay a record $87 million federal fine for the 2005 refinery explosion. The Times reported that the penalty “does reflect what many critics have said is a corporate culture that has emphasized speed and profits over safety.”

Soon after the fine was agreed to, residents of Texas City filed a lawsuit against the BP refinery for releasing 538,000 pounds of toxic chemicals into the environment where many children came down with respiratory problems. Despite the refinery’s history as a major employer in the city, several longtime employees supported the suit. BP announced in 2011 that it would sell the refinery.
 
In your opinion, are environmental and health risks worth the jobs that big companies like BP provide? Using BP as an example, do you think the corporate culture of “profits over safety” is changing as we move ahead? Why or why not?

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Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on April 18, 2013, 03:15:16 PM
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lolz
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Post by: Marty Champions on April 18, 2013, 03:26:38 PM
jesus crhist and here we have city inspectors in my town worrying about a peice of led paint or a plate board that needs to be replaced on the foundation, that seems to be the big concern these days. city workers suck d1ck and the people in charge of them
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Post by: Mr Nobody on April 18, 2013, 03:35:31 PM
jesus crhist and here we have city inspectors in my town worrying about a peice of led paint or a plate board that needs to be replaced on the foundation, that seems to be the big concern these days. city workers suck d1ck and the people in charge of them
Do they check for asbestos Johnny?
Title: Re: Breaking:huge explosion at fertiliser plant in Waco
Post by: Marty Champions on April 18, 2013, 03:39:59 PM
Do the check for asbestos Johnny?

not sure but they are cracking down latley at tax payers expense.
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Post by: Gregzs on April 18, 2013, 04:07:37 PM
It looks like safety violations led to this. It reminds me of the plant in Nevada that was on tv shows.

http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20130418/US--Plant.Explosion-Texas/


WEST, Texas (AP) — Rescuers searched the smoking remnants of a Texas farm town Thursday for survivors of a thunderous fertilizer plant explosion, gingerly checking smashed houses and apartments for anyone still trapped in debris or bodies of the dead.
 
Initial reports put the number of fatalities as high as 15, but later in the day, authorities backed away from any estimate and refused to elaborate. More than 160 people were hurt.

 
A breathtaking band of destruction extended for blocks around the West Fertilizer Co. in the small community of West. The blast shook the ground with the strength of a small earthquake and leveled dozens of homes, an apartment complex, a school and a nursing home. Its dull boom could be heard dozens of miles away from the town about 20 miles north of Waco.

 
Waco police Sgt. William Patrick Swanton described ongoing search-and-rescue efforts as "tedious and time-consuming," noting that crews had to shore up much of the wreckage before going in.

 
Searchers "have not gotten to the point of no return where they don't think that there's anybody still alive," Swanton said. He did not know how many people had been rescued.
 
There was no indication the blast, which sent up a mushroom-shaped plume of smoke and left behind a crater, was anything other than an industrial accident, he said.

 
The Wednesday night explosion rained burning embers and debris down on terrified residents. The landscape was wrapped in acrid smoke and strewn with the shattered remains of buildings, furniture and personal belongings.

 
Dogs with collars but no owners trotted nervously through deserted streets in cordoned-off neighborhoods around the decimated plant. The entire second floor of a nearby apartment complex was destroyed, leaving bricks and mattresses among the rubble. One rescue crew going from apartment to apartment gave special attention to a room where only a child's red and blue bunk bed remained.

 
While the community tended to its deep wounds, investigators awaited clearance to enter the blast zone for clues to what set off the plant's huge stockpile of volatile chemicals.
 
"It's still too hot to get in there," said Franceska Perot, a spokeswoman for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.

 
The precise death toll was uncertain. Three to five volunteer firefighters were initially believed to be among the dead, which authorities said could number as many as 15. But by late Thursday afternoon, the state Department of Public Safety would not confirm how many had been killed.

 
Swanton said he would "never second-guess" firefighters' decision to enter the plant because "we risk our lives every day." The many injuries included broken bones, cuts and bruises, respiratory problems and minor burns. Five people were reported in intensive care. Five more were listed in critical condition.

 
In the hours after the blast, residents wandered the dark, windy streets searching for shelter. Among them was Julie Zahirniako, who said she and her son, Anthony, had been at a school playground near the plant when the explosion hit.

 
The explosion threw her son four feet in the air, breaking his ribs. She said she saw people running from the nursing home, and the roof of the school rose into the sky.
 
"The fire was so high," she said. "It was just as loud as it could be. The ground and everything was shaking."

 
First-responders evacuated 133 patients from the nursing home, some in wheelchairs. Many were dazed and panicked and did not know what happened.

 
William Burch and his wife, a retired Air Force nurse, entered the damaged nursing home before first-responders arrived. They searched separate wings and found residents in wheelchairs trapped in their rooms. The halls were dark, and the ceilings had collapsed. Water filled the hallways. Electrical wires hung eerily from the ceilings.

 
"They had Sheetrock that was on top of them. You had to remove that," Burch said. It was "completely chaotic."

 
Gov. Rick Perry called the explosion "a truly nightmare scenario for the community" and said he had been in touch with President Barack Obama, who promised his administration's assistance with operations on the ground.
 
Authorities said the plant made materials similar to those used in the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing.

 
The fertilizer used in that attack, ammonium nitrate, makes big explosions, be they accidental or intentional, said Neil Donahue, professor of chemistry at Carnegie Mellon University. It also was used in the first bombing attempt at the World Trade Center in 1993.
 
Ammonium nitrate is stable, but if its components are heated up sufficiently, they break apart in a runaway explosive chemical reaction, Donahue said.

 
"The hotter it is, the faster the reaction will happen," he said. "That really happens almost instantaneously, and that's what gives the tremendous force of the explosion."

 
About a half-hour before the blast, the town's volunteer firefighters had responded to a call at the plant, Swanton said. They immediately realized the potential for disaster because of the plant's chemical stockpile and began evacuating the surrounding area.
 
The blast happened 20 minutes later.

 
Erick Perez was playing basketball at a nearby school when the fire started. He and his friends thought nothing of it at first, but about a half-hour later, the smoke changed color. The blast threw him, his nephew and others to the ground and showered the area with hot embers, shrapnel and debris.

 
"The explosion was like nothing I've ever seen before," Perez said. "This town is hurt really bad."

 
The U.S. Chemical Safety Board was deploying a large investigation team to West. An ATF national response team that investigates all large fires and explosions was also expected, bringing fire investigators, certified explosives specialists, chemists, canines and forensic specialists. American Red Cross crews also headed to the scene to help evacuated residents.

 
Records reviewed by The Associated Press show the U.S. Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration fined West Fertilizer $10,000 last summer for safety violations that included planning to transport anhydrous ammonia without a security plan. An inspector also found the plant's ammonia tanks weren't properly labeled.

 
The government accepted $5,250 after the company took what it described as corrective actions, the records show. It is not unusual for companies to negotiate lower fines with regulators.

 
In a risk-management plan filed with the Environmental Protection Agency about a year earlier, the company said it was not handling flammable materials and did not have sprinklers, water-deluge systems, blast walls, fire walls or other safety mechanisms in place at the plant.

 
State officials require all facilities that handle anhydrous ammonia to have sprinklers and other safety measures because it is a flammable substance, according to Mike Wilson, head of air permitting for the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality.
 
But inspectors would not necessarily check for such mechanisms, and it's not known whether they did when the West plant was last inspected in 2006, said Ramiro Garcia, head of enforcement and compliance.

 
That inspection followed a complaint about a strong ammonia smell, which the company resolved by obtaining a new permit, said the commission's executive director Zak Covar. He said no other complaints had been filed with the state since then, so there haven't been additional inspections.

 
The company could not be reached for comment. A call to the home of plant owner Don R. Adair rang unanswered.
 
The federal Chemical Safety Board has not investigated a fertilizer plant explosion before, but Managing Director Daniel Horowitz said "fertilizers have been involved in some of the most severe accidents of the past century."

 
He noted the 2001 explosion at a chemical and fertilizer plant that killed 31 people and injured more than 2,000 in Toulouse, France. The blast in a hangar containing 300 tons of ammonium nitrate came 10 days after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, raising fears at the time that the two could be linked. A 2006 report blamed the blast on negligence.

 
Horowitz also mentioned a disaster in Texas City in 1947, when a cargo ship holding more than 2,000 tons of ammonium nitrate caught fire and exploded, killing more than 500 people.
Title: Re: Breaking:huge explosion at fertiliser plant in Waco
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on April 18, 2013, 04:33:10 PM
sounds like they tried to mix cell tech and PEDs

Maybe why Kamali's Plasmosis was discontinued. Just too powerful.
Title: Re: Breaking:huge explosion at fertiliser plant in Waco
Post by: Heywood on April 18, 2013, 04:38:54 PM
How do you build a fucking fertilizer plant so close to schools and nursing homes.
Title: Re: Breaking:huge explosion at fertiliser plant in Waco
Post by: Gregzs on April 18, 2013, 06:01:40 PM
How do you build a fucking fertilizer plant so close to schools and nursing homes.


It was either: the plant was there and developers built the rest nearby thinking it was safe; or the opposite which is unlikely.

The old Pepcon plant was out in the Nevada desert away from the town and the blast shattered windows that injured hundreds anyway: