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Title: Boston Bombing - Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: Schnauzer on April 19, 2013, 09:58:19 PM
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Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: tommywishbone on April 19, 2013, 09:59:44 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D   What a Goober.
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: 240 is Back on April 19, 2013, 10:01:17 PM
I was PISSED that the dude was hiding in a boat the entire.  RIGHT BEHIND the house where the guy video'd the gunfight.  He went out for a smoke today and saw his tarp was adjusted, looked in, and saw bad guy.

Fucking terrible police work, not to search outdoor hiding spaces approx 200 feet from the shooting lol... pathetic.

yes, they're getting applauded, yes, they had a shitty day and were brave to show up and do the manhunt.. but SOMEONE should have searched that damn boat.
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on April 19, 2013, 10:02:37 PM
We've all done that shit one time in our lives...Come on bros...He's the ALPHA willing to get shot.
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on April 19, 2013, 10:04:58 PM
I was PISSED that the dude was hiding in a boat the entire.  RIGHT BEHIND the house where the guy video'd the gunfight.  He went out for a smoke today and saw his tarp was adjusted, looked in, and saw bad guy.

Fucking terrible police work, not to search outdoor hiding spaces approx 200 feet from the shooting lol... pathetic.

yes, they're getting applauded, yes, they had a shitty day and were brave to show up and do the manhunt.. but SOMEONE should have searched that damn boat.

REally bad police work...FBI should know he was probably shot and running frantic looking for a place to hide and evaluate his wounds...I suggest that a few people should be fired over this. The fuckers had to call SWAT in from near by STATES...WTF thats why i thought the whole thing was a drill...I never would have thought these cops/FBI were that fukced up...Heads should roll.
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: 240 is Back on April 19, 2013, 10:09:29 PM
I thought for sure they were looking for a body... we knew blood was in the car, he had to be hit, his brother was in the same gunfight and was just soaked in bullets. 

I thought he'd crawl into a dumpster and die.  Turns out he crawled into a boat, and bled for 20 hours.  Sheer luck how he's still alive.  His torso did appear uninjured.  Still had the energy to shoot back after 20 hours... unless those were all police bullets going at him lol... perfectly reasonable...

I know the cops want to kill him - BUT - I'd prefer he live long enough to snitch on his buddies that helped.
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on April 19, 2013, 10:12:39 PM
I thought for sure they were looking for a body... we knew blood was in the car, he had to be hit, his brother was in the same gunfight and was just soaked in bullets. 

I thought he'd crawl into a dumpster and die.  Turns out he crawled into a boat, and bled for 20 hours.  Sheer luck how he's still alive.  His torso did appear uninjured.  Still had the energy to shoot back after 20 hours... unless those were all police bullets going at him lol... perfectly reasonable...

I know the cops want to kill him - BUT - I'd prefer he live long enough to snitch on his buddies that helped.

How is that boat not one of the first places you rip apart come day light? Heads should fukcing roll...
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: 240 is Back on April 19, 2013, 10:16:03 PM
How is that boat not one of the first places you rip apart come day light? Heads should fukcing roll...


right?  ???   The man recorded the gun battle on his phone, uploaded it, did CNN and NBC interviews all day.

All the while, nobody bothered to check the fcking boat in the backyard.  They're shutting down an entire city, as dude is literally a stone's throw from where his brother died in the gun battle.

I know everyone is cheering the cops, but once the honeymoon is over, someone should really ask the Q... "Um, whose job was it to clear this block?"  A boat with tarp is only the most obvious fcking place in history for a wuounded kid on foot to hide.
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on April 19, 2013, 10:21:36 PM

right?  ???   The man recorded the gun battle on his phone, uploaded it, did CNN and NBC interviews all day.

All the while, nobody bothered to check the fcking boat in the backyard.  They're shutting down an entire city, as dude is literally a stone's throw from where his brother died in the gun battle.

I know everyone is cheering the cops, but once the honeymoon is over, someone should really ask the Q... "Um, whose job was it to clear this block?"  A boat with tarp is only the most obvious fcking place in history for a wuounded kid on foot to hide.

This is why conspirarcy guys like myself think things are set up. Give a 12 year old an air photo of the area and he would say look in the fucking boat. Also interesting these cops waited till 8pm prime time friday night to nail the bastard. In fact, SWAT took over 2 hours after they knew he was in the boat to take him.lol... Never seen that shit on COPS. LOL
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: tommywishbone on April 19, 2013, 10:23:35 PM
The greasy killer was being chased by cops, not students from MIT. He didn't have to do too much to fool them. 
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on April 19, 2013, 10:25:29 PM
The greasy killer was being chased by cops, not students from MIT. He didn't have to do too much to fool them. 

nicely played
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: 240 is Back on April 19, 2013, 10:25:48 PM
Give a 12 year old an air photo of the area and he would say look in the fucking boat

LOL!  I actually laughed out loud.  very loud haha.   total truth.

I dont think conspiracy here (on the part of police after shootout) ... i think cops were angy and emotional and chasing a car, etc... they heard the next call on the radio about a barking dog or motion detector, and ran at that.

Didn't use common sense.  Didn't follow the book.  Just random and emotional.  Incompetent, but they're people, and they're scared.

Still, ,yeah, a 12 year old could have looked and said "look in the fcking boat" lol...

UNLESS he cralwed into it AFTER they searched it... but that doens't make sense in a lot of ways.




Oh and I think they gave him 2 more hours, hoping he'd bleed out.  THey wanted him dead.  I'd prefer he snitch on his girlfriend and buddies first, then get the chair.  peacefully going to sleep in a boat, hell no... make him take the needle in a decade.
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: The True Adonis on April 19, 2013, 10:35:14 PM
LOL YES!!! I posted about this incident I saw, it was hilarious. I`m glad someone caught it.
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: musclecenter on April 19, 2013, 10:43:18 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: arce1988 on April 19, 2013, 10:47:41 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: arce1988 on April 19, 2013, 10:50:25 PM
 SAME thing with Dorner. They did NOT TRULY check the area (the LAST place) these suspects were at.
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: Schnauzer on April 19, 2013, 10:54:36 PM
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Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on April 19, 2013, 11:03:30 PM
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Wow :o...At 26 seconds it looks like 2 cops run for there lives. If true, these two should be given their walking papers 2mrw. I hope that they were running around that house and gonna hit from a different position. But something tells me they bailed. It's not that I blame them, its just tax payer money shouldn't fund their lives anymore imop.
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: arce1988 on April 19, 2013, 11:04:44 PM
 ;D  Easy to say when you do NOT have rounds coming down range towards you
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: Natural Man on April 19, 2013, 11:07:53 PM





Oh and I think they gave him 2 more hours, hoping he'd bleed out.  THey wanted him dead.  I'd prefer he snitch on his girlfriend and buddies first, then get the chair.  peacefully going to sleep in a boat, hell no... make him take the needle in a decade.
they used thermal imagery to spy on him, they could see him move (sit, lay back) thru the tarp in the boat... they wanted him to be asleep/unconscious to not risk anything for him or themselves before getting him. They even asked for shields if i remember correctly before going at him.
It s incredible how anyone using the internet has been able to basically know everything in real time.
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on April 19, 2013, 11:10:53 PM
;D  Easy to say when you do NOT have rounds coming down range towards you

True my friend...But all the other cops held their ground. When the other cops watch the tape, I'd guess it would be hard to go into battle with one of the guys who ran...Just saying ;)
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: arce1988 on April 19, 2013, 11:12:31 PM
  I feel you.
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on April 19, 2013, 11:13:12 PM
they used thermal imagery to spy on him, they could see him move (sit, lay back) thru the tarp in the boat... they wanted him to be asleep/unconscious to not risk anything for him or themselves before getting him. They even asked for shields if i remember correctly before going at him.
It s incredible how anyone using the internet has been able to basically know everything in real time.

He must have jumped into that boat within minutes of the shooting last night. the chopper is fitted with thermal. They must have seen the movement in that boat within minutes after it all went down no?
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on April 19, 2013, 11:15:40 PM
He must have jumped into that boat within minutes of the shooting last night. the chopper is fitted with thermal. They must have seen the movement in that boat within minutes after it all went down no?

We've all watched cops were the guys were busted within an hour because of thermal. Boston has some of the most advance technology in the States.They must have let him sit there for hours and waited for FOX Prime time and  Bill Oreilly and 8pm eastern time to make their move...lol
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: Schnauzer on April 19, 2013, 11:15:55 PM
This is the scene tonight at the marathon finish line

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BIQqPqbCMAApQMV.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: Rudee on April 19, 2013, 11:47:13 PM
This whole thing showed just how inept the Boston Police department is.   Why they're being congratulated is beyond me.   
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: The True Adonis on April 20, 2013, 12:09:27 AM
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Those were dummy rounds fired at him in order to scare the shit out of him or for him to waste all his ammo.
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on April 20, 2013, 12:38:52 AM

right?  ???   The man recorded the gun battle on his phone, uploaded it, did CNN and NBC interviews all day.

All the while, nobody bothered to check the fcking boat in the backyard.  They're shutting down an entire city, as dude is literally a stone's throw from where his brother died in the gun battle.

I know everyone is cheering the cops, but once the honeymoon is over, someone should really ask the Q... "Um, whose job was it to clear this block?"  A boat with tarp is only the most obvious fcking place in history for a wuounded kid on foot to hide.

Why search the crime scene when you can play God and shut down an entire city.  Sign of things to come, and the lies upon which it is based.
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on April 20, 2013, 12:39:49 AM
The greasy killer was being chased by cops, not students from MIT. He didn't have to do too much to fool them.  

What is the average cop IQ?  Below average I'd guess..
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: calfzilla on April 20, 2013, 01:21:20 AM
I think it took to long to catch them because racist American law enforcement were wasting time blaming Arabs when it was the chechneyans.
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on April 20, 2013, 01:29:43 AM
I think it took to long to catch them because racist American law enforcement were wasting time blaming Arabs when it was the chechneyans.

Also because they were focused on white constitutionalist gun owning Christians.
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: calfzilla on April 20, 2013, 01:36:32 AM
Exactly too busy pointing fingers at Arabs and crazy white guys. Just like the DC sniper case, everyone looking for a white guy and it turned out to be a chocolate face.
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: Parker on April 20, 2013, 02:14:47 AM
Exactly too busy pointing fingers at Arabs and crazy white guys. Just like the DC sniper case, everyone looking for a white guy and it turned out to be a chocolate face.
They were looking for a white van...but they didn't really know who they were looking for...
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: calfzilla on April 20, 2013, 02:31:47 AM
They were looking for a white van...but they didn't really know who they were looking for...

Wrong. The FBI profilers were strongly leaning toward a white guy, HOWEVER Chief Moose didn't buy into that and kept an open mind.
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: Parker on April 20, 2013, 02:47:29 AM
Wrong. The FBI profilers were strongly leaning toward a white guy, HOWEVER Chief Moose didn't buy into that and kept an open mind.
Yes, I know that...I was playing on the fact that they were looking for a white van (man)...
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: calfzilla on April 20, 2013, 02:59:54 AM
Yes, I know that...I was playing on the fact that they were looking for a white van (man)...

Actually it was a white box truck.  ;D
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: Parker on April 20, 2013, 03:02:08 AM
Actually it was a white box truck.  ;D
Yeah...you are correct.
 
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: Army of One on April 20, 2013, 03:38:45 AM
J. Anthony 6 hours ago
He walked off so bad ass like "yea, I know the camera man got my sweet jump. Wait till my wife see's this. Then I'll surely gets the sex." Lol
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: JasonH on April 20, 2013, 03:59:47 AM
Boston bomber is critically ill in hospital, bleeding from the lungs.

Which means he could still drown, despite being in a boat, on land, in Watertown.


 ;D
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: Schnauzer on April 20, 2013, 04:06:26 AM
Boston bomber is critically ill in hospital, bleeding from the lungs.

Which means he could still drown, despite being in a boat, on land, in Watertown.


 ;D

I'm on a boat, don't you ever forget  ;D

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Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: oldtimer1 on April 20, 2013, 06:08:32 AM
Most of you guys are mental midgets with your comments about the cops. If someone is shooting at you running for cover seems to be great tactics before engaging. Cops are dummies? When the  NJ State Police post openings  for a 100 positions for their $105K job without overtime they get 10,000 applications. In that group of applications there are many professionals with advance degrees of all types applying. You guys Monday morning quarterbacking shows what kind of dopes you are.

Regarding the out of shape FBI agents you got me on that one. Most are not really elite physical cops but attorneys, computer,accountants, and language experts. They are looking for thinkers and not the physical. They select from the band and not the football team.
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: daddy8ball on April 20, 2013, 06:18:38 AM
If it was a COD: Modern Warfare level, how many players would look in the boat?

100% I bet. LOL
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on April 20, 2013, 06:25:14 AM
Cops are dummies? When the  NJ State Police post openings  for a 100 positions for their $105K job without overtime they get 10,000 applications. In that group of applications there are many professionals with advance degrees of all types applying.

Cops have dead average IQ.  flatline middle average. 
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: tommywishbone on April 20, 2013, 08:27:34 AM
Most of you guys are mental midgets with your comments about the cops. If someone is shooting at you running for cover seems to be great tactics before engaging. Cops are dummies? When the  NJ State Police post openings  for a 100 positions for their $105K job without overtime they get 10,000 applications. In that group of applications there are many professionals with advance degrees of all types applying. You guys Monday morning quarterbacking shows what kind of dopes you are.

Regarding the out of shape FBI agents you got me on that one. Most are not really elite physical cops but attorneys, computer,accountants, and language experts. They are looking for thinkers and not the physical. They select from the band and not the football team.

Thanks officer. We'll keep that in mind.
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 20, 2013, 08:36:43 AM
Wow :o...At 26 seconds it looks like 2 cops run for there lives. If true, these two should be given their walking papers 2mrw. I hope that they were running around that house and gonna hit from a different position. But something tells me they bailed. It's not that I blame them, its just tax payer money shouldn't fund their lives anymore imop.


And this is why you don't have a clue... at 25 seconds you see the cops leaving cover to start to move to a better vantage point or to a location they needed to be at. At that very moment shots are fired. Only a stupid, idiotic moron would not move faster to the next cover. This is why you really need to leave the commenting to people with experience or just a simple base knowledge.. 
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 20, 2013, 08:37:57 AM
This whole thing showed just how inept the Boston Police department is.   Why they're being congratulated is beyond me.   

pretty sure this isn't the only thing beyond you...  :'(
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 20, 2013, 08:38:39 AM
Most of you guys are mental midgets with your comments about the cops. If someone is shooting at you running for cover seems to be great tactics before engaging. Cops are dummies? When the  NJ State Police post openings  for a 100 positions for their $105K job without overtime they get 10,000 applications. In that group of applications there are many professionals with advance degrees of all types applying. You guys Monday morning quarterbacking shows what kind of dopes you are.

Regarding the out of shape FBI agents you got me on that one. Most are not really elite physical cops but attorneys, computer,accountants, and language experts. They are looking for thinkers and not the physical. They select from the band and not the football team.

good post
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 20, 2013, 08:39:15 AM
What is the average cop IQ?  Below average I'd guess..

You'd be wrong...does that surprise you?
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: Nails on April 20, 2013, 08:46:37 AM
You'd be wrong...does that surprise you?

How about FBI agent IQ?? Cus it's pretty clear front the video the gate was unlocked and no need to scale fence to trespass on that persons property
Title: Re: Boston Bombinb - Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: The True Adonis on April 20, 2013, 08:47:04 AM
All the shots fired were all Dummy Rounds.  Orders were to NOT fire a single real shot.  They didn`t shoot the boat with real ammo.
Title: Re: Boston Bombinb - Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: The True Adonis on April 20, 2013, 08:48:25 AM
"Dummy rounds going into the boat" on scanner
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 20, 2013, 08:48:44 AM
How about FBI agent IQ?? Cus it's pretty clear front the video the gate was unlocked and no need to scale fence to trespass on that persons property

FBI requires a college degree
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 20, 2013, 08:51:33 AM
How about FBI agent IQ?? Cus it's pretty clear front the video the gate was unlocked and no need to scale fence to trespass on that persons property

I looked at the video.. I see a lock on it... I see it locked. With a gate like that, if one of the gates are not held fast by a rod going into the ground, you can open them by pushing on them if it is a slide bar lock. I know this because I've had fences like that. Maybe he hasnt.
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: Nails on April 20, 2013, 09:11:16 AM
I looked at the video.. I see a lock on it... I see it locked. With a gate like that, if one of the gates are not held fast by a rod going into the ground, you can open them by pushing on them if it is a slide bar lock. I know this because I've had fences like that. Maybe he hasnt.

LoL kinda looked like Lloyd in entourage

Looks like his first field assignment
Title: Re: Boston Bombinb - Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: 240 is Back on April 20, 2013, 09:37:46 AM
If you're agile and in shape, it is fun to jump fences.



maybe dude just likes to hop a fence like an armed boss from time to time?
Title: Re: Boston Bombinb - Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: The True Adonis on April 20, 2013, 09:55:18 AM
If you're agile and in shape, it is fun to jump fences.



maybe dude just likes to hop a fence like an armed boss from time to time?
;D
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on April 20, 2013, 11:37:14 AM
You'd be wrong...does that surprise you?

I wasn't far off - certainly below mine.  Average cop IQ is 104.
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 20, 2013, 11:58:31 AM
I wasn't far off - certainly below mine.  Average cop IQ is 104.

Cool, seen that number before. If you would be so kind as to give  me the link not to the news story of the guy with the 125 IQ who was not hired in New London, but the link to the actual study, we can dissect it together and see if it holds up to some scrutiny. 
Title: Re: Boston Bombinb - Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on April 20, 2013, 12:34:40 PM
It's not just about smarts. It's physical tests, mental tests and interviews. Being smart just doesn't qualify you to be a cop.
Title: Re: Boston Bombinb - Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 20, 2013, 02:25:51 PM
It's not just about smarts. It's physical tests, mental tests and interviews. Being smart just doesn't qualify you to be a cop.

Agreed. Also, I don't know of any departments that give an IQ test so the 104 is suspect at best. It was also from before 1996 and many departments started requiring some college or a degree. I'm not saying all cops are smart, that isn't the case and we've got a few that have been on the force for 20 yrs who slipped through the cracks and can't write a decent report to save their life. But the young ones these days seem to be of better than average intelligence. Fortunately, most of the criminals we have to deal with are in the double digits so 104 would be more than adequate  ;)   
Title: Re: Boston Bombinb - Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: tu_holmes on April 20, 2013, 02:32:18 PM
Agreed. Also, I don't know of any departments that give an IQ test so the 104 is suspect at best. It was also from before 1996 and many departments started requiring some college or a degree. I'm not saying all cops are smart, that isn't the case and we've got a few that have been on the force for 20 yrs who slipped through the cracks and can't write a decent report to save their life. But the young ones these days seem to be of better than average intelligence. Fortunately, most of the criminals we have to deal with are in the double digits so 104 would be more than adequate  ;)   

Which departments?

LA Sheriff does not. Nor does LAPD, or NYPD (If you have military experience).

I would actually argue that most departments only require you to be 21, a US citizen, and not a felon.
Title: Re: Boston Bombinb - Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 20, 2013, 02:35:57 PM
Which departments?

LA Sheriff does not. Nor does LAPD, or NYPD (If you have military experience).

I would actually argue that most departments only require you to be 21, a US citizen, and not a felon.

This is from a quick google search. Ours did up until about 2 months ago when the Chief got rid of the requirement, arguing that we were losing out on potential candidates and that our in house screening and requirements would still insure we get the best recruits.


Police Agencies That Require a
Four-Year College Degree for New Officers

As of August 23, 2006 PACE is aware that the below listed departments require, by policy or practice, a four year college degree for entering officers. (Asterisk  indicates that extensive law enforcement with AA degree or military experience with AA Degree is acceptable in some cases.) Where known, department web site addresses are shown.

Please send any additions or corrections to loumayo@police-association.org

 Colorado

    Arvada Police Department
    Boulder Police Department
    Lakewood Police Department 
    Pueblo Police Department

California

    Redlands Police Department
    Vallejo

Delaware

    Delaware River and Bay Authority Police Department

Georgia

    Georgia Bureau of Investigation
    Peachtree City Police Department

Illinois

    Elgin Police Department
    Illinois State Police
    Naperville Police Department
    Palatine Police Department
    Schaumburg Police Department
    Tinley Park Police Department
    Wheaton Police Department
    Willowbrook Police Department
    Wilmette Police Department

Maryland

    Chevy Chase Village

Massachusetts

    Holden Police Department

Michigan

    Bloomfield Township Police Department
    Flint Police Department
    Flint Township Police Department
    Michigan State University Police and Public Safety
    Milford Police Department
    North Hills Police Department
    Norton Shores Police Department
    Novi City Police Department
    Owosso Police Department

Minnesota

    Burnsville Police Department
    Eagan City Police Department
    St. Cloud 

Missouri

    Richmond Heights Police Department

New Jersey

    Cherry Hill Police Department
    Dover Township Police Department
    Eatontown Police Department
    Haddon Township Police Department
    Leonia Police Department
    Mahwah Police Department
    Montvale Police Department
    Montgomery Township Police Department
    Rutgers University

North Carolina

    Gaston County Police Department

North Dakota

    *North Dakota Highway Patrol

Ohio

    Centerville Police Department
    City of Oakwood
    City of Canfield Police Department
    Cleveland Heights Police Department
    Middleburg Heights Police Department
    Strongsville Police Department

Oklahoma

    Tulsa Police Department

Oregon

    Multnomah County Sheriff's Office

Pennsylvania

    Bethel Park Police Department
    Borough of Gettysburg Police Department
    Edinboro Police Department
    Green Tree Borough Police Department
    Mt. Lebanon Police Department
    O’Hara Township Police Department
    Peter's Township Police Department
    Shaler Township
    South Park Township Police Department
    Upper Moreland Police Department

Rhode Island

    Smithfield Police Department

South Carolina

    Charleston City Police Department
    Richland County Sheriff's Department

Tennessee

    Johnson City Police Department

Texas

    Arlington Police Department
    Deer Park Police Department
    Highland Park Police Department
    Murphy, TX
    *Plano Police Department
    Sugar Land Police Department
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Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: OneMoreRep on April 20, 2013, 02:36:50 PM
I was PISSED that the dude was hiding in a boat the entire.  RIGHT BEHIND the house where the guy video'd the gunfight.  He went out for a smoke today and saw his tarp was adjusted, looked in, and saw bad guy.

Fucking terrible police work, not to search outdoor hiding spaces approx 200 feet from the shooting lol... pathetic.

yes, they're getting applauded, yes, they had a shitty day and were brave to show up and do the manhunt.. but SOMEONE should have searched that damn boat.

What bothered me was that when they started to publicly thank all the various law enforcement agencies involved in the capture of the individuals, they forgot to thank the biggest hero of them all, which was the owner of that boat, who simply went outside and caught the kid hiding inside of it.

Without that guy's help, the second individual could have disappeared all together.

"1"
Title: Re: Boston Bombinb - Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: tu_holmes on April 20, 2013, 02:37:17 PM
Of the literal THOUSANDS of agencies in the country, those do.

That's not even close to "Most".
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 20, 2013, 02:42:42 PM
What bothered me was that when they started to publicly thank all the various law enforcement agencies involved in the capture of the individuals, they forgot to thank the biggest hero of them all, which was the owner of that boat, who simply went outside and caught the kid hiding inside of it.

Without that guy's help, the second individual could have disappeared all together.

"1"

I didn't see the actual speech but if that is the case, then jeez... The public is so much a part of a departments success, calling in suspicious persons, burglaries in progress and other crimes that departments should go OUT OF THEIR WAY to make sure they are recognized.
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: The True Adonis on April 20, 2013, 03:15:27 PM
What bothered me was that when they started to publicly thank all the various law enforcement agencies involved in the capture of the individuals, they forgot to thank the biggest hero of them all, which was the owner of that boat, who simply went outside and caught the kid hiding inside of it.

Without that guy's help, the second individual could have disappeared all together.

"1"
No, he would have bled out and died in that boat. He was in there all night with bullet wounds from the night before.  Foot and neck/trap area.
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on April 20, 2013, 08:17:06 PM

And this is why you don't have a clue... at 25 seconds you see the cops leaving cover to start to move to a better vantage point or to a location they needed to be at. At that very moment shots are fired. Only a stupid, idiotic moron would not move faster to the next cover. This is why you really need to leave the commenting to people with experience or just a simple base knowledge..  

Give me your base knowledge on how come over 500 cops and FBI never looked under the tarp of the boat which wasn't far from the street shooting?
Title: Re: Boston Bombing - Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 20, 2013, 08:20:01 PM
Russia asked FBI to investigate Tamerlan Tsarnaev in 2011 – report


http://rt.com/news/fbi-tsarnaev-foreign-request-150


 
Edited time: April 20, 2013 19:18

A FBI agent enters the apartment building door of Alina Tsarnaeva on April 19, 2013 in West New York, New Jersey (AFP Photo / John Moore)

Russia asked the FBI to investigate Boston bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev in 2011, a source in US law enforcement told Reuters. The FBI had earlier reported on its website that an unnamed ‘foreign government’ had asked them for information.

The slain Boston marathon bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev, who previously was designated as Suspect 1, was investigated in 2011 by the FBI upon a certain foreign state’s request.

The state, which was not identified in the statement on the FBI website, filed a request concerning Tsarnaev saying that he was a follower of radical Islam and was preparing to leave the US for a particular region to join “unspecified underground groups.”

The FBI says they checked all the information possible, looking for “derogatory telephone communications, possible use of online sites associated with the promotion of radical activity, associations with other persons of interest,” and checking the suspect’s travel history, plans, and education history.

Tsarnaev and his family members were also interviewed by the FBI.

Upon analyzing the data, the FBI had found nothing suspicious at the time.

“The FBI did not find any terrorism activity, domestic or foreign, and those results were provided to the foreign government in the summer of 2011. The FBI requested but did not receive more specific or additional information from the foreign government,” the FBI statement says.
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on April 20, 2013, 08:20:22 PM
What bothered me was that when they started to publicly thank all the various law enforcement agencies involved in the capture of the individuals, they forgot to thank the biggest hero of them all, which was the owner of that boat, who simply went outside and caught the kid hiding inside of it.

Without that guy's help, the second individual could have disappeared all together.

"1"

Does anyone know exactly how far that boat was from the street shootout?
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: Nails on April 20, 2013, 08:31:09 PM
Does anyone know exactly how far that boat was from the street shootout?

TA said he was under 3/4 of a mile from where he ditched the stolen Mercedes SUV
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: Nomad on April 20, 2013, 11:54:10 PM
Wow :o...At 26 seconds it looks like 2 cops run for there lives. If true, these two should be given their walking papers 2mrw. I hope that they were running around that house and gonna hit from a different position. But something tells me they bailed. It's not that I blame them, its just tax payer money shouldn't fund their lives anymore imop.

dude this isn't fucking super commando vs predator... either hit th deck or run for cover.
Title: Re: Boston Bombing - Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: Radical Plato on April 21, 2013, 12:13:19 AM
That was priceless, I just had to make a gif of it.

(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view8/4640400/fbi-fail-o.gif)

and the other one too. LOL

(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view5/4640405/police-door-kick-fail-o.gif)
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 21, 2013, 06:10:16 AM
Give me your base knowledge on how come over 500 cops and FBI never looked under the tarp of the boat which wasn't far from the street shooting?

What do you define as "wasn't far"? If the distance of 3/4 mile is what we are working with, there could be a couple reasons. 3/4 distance in all directions of the vehicle is a very significant radius.
Title: Re: Boston Bombing - Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 21, 2013, 06:42:31 AM
"Officials announced at 6:00 p.m. news conference that they had been unable to apprehend the suspect, despite combing through a 20-block area of the Boston suburb of Watertown and shutting down the city's entire public transportation system in an effort to prevent him from fleeing. They said they did not know if he had a car, or if he was still on foot. The home where Tsarnaev was eventually discovered was outside the 20-block perimeter, and had not been searched."

A 20 block perimeter is pretty extensive.. and reasonable.
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: quadzilla456 on April 21, 2013, 11:03:25 AM
Most of you guys are mental midgets with your comments about the cops. If someone is shooting at you running for cover seems to be great tactics before engaging. Cops are dummies? When the  NJ State Police post openings  for a 100 positions for their $105K job without overtime they get 10,000 applications. In that group of applications there are many professionals with advance degrees of all types applying. You guys Monday morning quarterbacking shows what kind of dopes you are.

Regarding the out of shape FBI agents you got me on that one. Most are not really elite physical cops but attorneys, computer,accountants, and language experts. They are looking for thinkers and not the physical. They select from the band and not the football team.
Maybe the recruiters are looking for the dummies intentionally and overlooking the sharp ones?
Title: Re: Boston Bombing - Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: tu_holmes on April 21, 2013, 11:05:17 AM
Most of you guys are mental midgets with your comments about the cops. If someone is shooting at you running for cover seems to be great tactics before engaging. Cops are dummies? When the  NJ State Police post openings  for a 100 positions for their $105K job without overtime they get 10,000 applications. In that group of applications there are many professionals with advance degrees of all types applying. You guys Monday morning quarterbacking shows what kind of dopes you are.

Regarding the out of shape FBI agents you got me on that one. Most are not really elite physical cops but attorneys, computer,accountants, and language experts. They are looking for thinkers and not the physical. They select from the band and not the football team.

Makes no sense to expect a 1 ft hedge to be your cover... You better get behind something bigger and more substantial.
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: Radical Plato on April 21, 2013, 12:35:12 PM
Most of you guys are mental midgets with your comments about the cops. If someone is shooting at you running for cover seems to be great tactics before engaging. Cops are dummies? When the  NJ State Police post openings  for a 100 positions for their $105K job without overtime they get 10,000 applications. In that group of applications there are many professionals with advance degrees of all types applying. You guys Monday morning quarterbacking shows what kind of dopes you are.

Regarding the out of shape FBI agents you got me on that one. Most are not really elite physical cops but attorneys, computer,accountants, and language experts. They are looking for thinkers and not the physical. They select from the band and not the football team.
You mean like this guy, surely an intelligent person would check to see if a gate wasn't locked before climbing it.  But what do I know?  He could just be a dummy that fell through the cracks.

(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view8/4640400/fbi-fail-o.gif)
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 21, 2013, 12:43:09 PM
You mean like this guy, surely an intelligent person would check to see if a gate wasn't locked before climbing it.  But what do I know?  He could just be a dummy that fell through the cracks.

(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view8/4640400/fbi-fail-o.gif)

The gate looked locked. It would be even more stupid if he "checked" to see if the gate was locked with a lock right on the gate staring him in the face. And I'll bet his buddies haven't let him live that down yet...   ;)
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: Radical Plato on April 21, 2013, 12:55:01 PM
The gate looked locked. It would be even more stupid if he "checked" to see if the gate was locked with a lock right on the gate staring him in the face. And I'll bet his buddies haven't let him live that down yet...   ;)
I was just taking the piss, and you're right, his police mates probably watch it on you-tube all the time and razz him up.  It is very funny though, I laugh every time I watch it.
Title: Re: Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude
Post by: Agnostic007 on April 21, 2013, 12:56:54 PM
I was just taking the piss, and you're right, his police mates probably watch it on you-tube all the time and razz him up.  It is very funny though, I laugh every time I watch it.

So do I..