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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/10007190/Boston-bombs-Obama-lulled-America-into-false-confidence-over-terror-threat.html
Obama fail
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http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/04/predictable-obama-lectures-us-on-diversity-following-arrest-of-injured-boston-jihadist-bomber-video
Typical Oh-SHIT!!!
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In his State of the Union address to the American people earlier this year, Barack Obama declared that he was "confident" of achieving "our objective of defeating the core of al-Qaeda".
Although he acknowledged the need to pursue the "remnants" of the terrorist group and its affiliates, the overall message was clear – al-Qaeda was badly degraded, the tides of war were receding and the US was winning this fight that was no longer even officially a war.
The Boston bombings would appear to present a fundamental challenge to that assessment and once again bring the nagging uncertainty of terrorism back on to the American main street.
It is too soon to be absolutely sure the attacks were motivated by jihadist ideology, but the Islamic videos on the website of the older of the two Tsarnaev brothers point very firmly in that direction.
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They bring home the complexity of the global Islamist threat and the fact that it cannot be confined to wars in distant lands, or fought at arm's length using drones, as the Obama administration has quietly yet insistently led America to believe.
Mr Obama and his intelligence community know the threat from al-Qaeda affiliates, but have chosen to downplay it to the US public.
Even when that fight does directly touch on American lives, as it did last September when the US ambassador to Libya was murdered in Benghazi by an al-Qaeda linked group, the administration appears at pains to deny the connection.
Indeed, next week, America's transportation authority is to relax rules on carrying knives on planes for the first time since the September 11 attacks.
But as many counter-terrorism experts have been saying – their voices often drowned out or ignored in favour of the pleasing simplicity of the Obama administration's narrative – the threat from al-Qaeda is too amorphous and shifting to ever have been discounted.
"They've fallen into the same trap that the Bush administration did early on," says Tom Jocelyn, a senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies think tank who tracks the movements of high-value al-Qaeda targets.
"They define al-Qaeda as a hierarchical terrorist organisation such that if you kill 'x' number of leaders then the whole thing falls apart."
But the early information on the Tsarnaev brothers – born in Kyrgyzstan to a Chechen family, but living in the US for up to a decade – points to just how blurred, in reality, the distinctions between al-Qaeda and its affiliates can become.
"It's a hybrid thing, that's the problem," says Aaron Zelin, a fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy who has written extensively about the decentralisation of al-Qaeda. "It's a unique threat, there's nothing like it and that's why people have a hard time grasping what it is."
Looked at that way, Mr Obama's "confidence" – and that of the American public – is likely to be badly shaken by what is emerging from Boston.
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BFD - a conservative leaning paper criticizes a Democratic POTUS
Let's get real for a second
terrorism kills very few people in this country
guns kill 30k every year
so if we're going to do nothing about guns then why should we do anything about a much much much much smaller problem?
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President Obama handled this week with grace, compssion, and a cool head. This is a man who is filled with emmense emotion that any father would express. A man who has learned to think before he speaks. A leader who is not afraid to ask questions.
Emperor Marcus Aurelius wrote of the Virtues of Man...Wisdom. Temperance, Fortitude, and Justice. Despite his imperfectness, President Obama has exemplified those virtues as best I have seen in any President in recent years.
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Can I have a Kleenex to wipe my tears? Please...
LMFAO!!!! lol!!!!!!
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What is a gun murder?
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What is a gun murder?
I know that must really be confusing for you
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I know that must really be confusing for you
It is because i did know guns commit crimes
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It is because i did know guns commit crimes
like I said
you're obviously and easily confused
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They really need to ban murder.
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12 hours ago (11:32 PM)
President Obama handled this week with grace, compssion, and a cool head. This is a man who is filled with emmense emotion that any father would express. A man who has learned to think before he speaks. A leader who is not afraid to ask questions.
Emperor Marcus Aurelius wrote of the Virtues of Man...Wisdom. Temperance, Fortitude, and Justice. Despite his imperfectness, President Obama has exemplified those virtues as best I have seen in any President in recent years.
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Can I have a Kleenex to wipe my tears? Please...
LMFAO!!!! lol!!!!!!
Obama's fake crying needs a lot of work.
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They really need to ban murder.
why bother
laws against murder don't stop anyone from doing it so we might as well not have any laws
shit, why do we even have a Congress that creates laws
criminals don't follow the law so what's the point
all it does is harm law abiding citizens
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BFD - a conservative leaning paper criticizes a Democratic POTUS
Let's get real for a second
terrorism kills very few people in this country
guns kill 30k every year
so if we're going to do nothing about guns then why should we do anything about a much much much much smaller problem?
Since when is the UK Telegraph a conservative paper?
"They've fallen into the same trap that the Bush administration did early on," says Tom Jocelyn, a senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies think tank who tracks the movements of high-value al-Qaeda targets.
"They define al-Qaeda as a hierarchical terrorist organisation such that if you kill 'x' number of leaders then the whole thing falls apart."
But the early information on the Tsarnaev brothers – born in Kyrgyzstan to a Chechen family, but living in the US for up to a decade – points to just how blurred, in reality, the distinctions between al-Qaeda and its affiliates can become.
"It's a hybrid thing, that's the problem," says Aaron Zelin, a fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy who has written extensively about the decentralisation of al-Qaeda. "It's a unique threat, there's nothing like it and that's why people have a hard time grasping what it is."
Looked at that way, Mr Obama's "confidence" – and that of the American public – is likely to be badly shaken by what is emerging from Boston.
As usual, every time yet another Obama failure pops up, you don the kneepads and crank out the excuses.
That bold statement is precisely why Benghazi keeps getting swept under the rug, as well as the liberal idiots' shameless cheerleading that the bombers would be "white Americans" (technically, one of them is; but that ain't what those rubes wanted).
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Since when is the UK Telegraph a conservative paper?
As usual, every time yet another Obama failure pops up, you don the kneepads and crank out the excuses.
Bad week to be an Obama dildo for sure.
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lol bad 4 years for the repub babies,look on the bright side only another 3 1/2 years than you can cry about clinton :D :D :D :D :D :D
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lol bad 4 years for the repub babies,look on the bright side only another 3 1/2 years than you can cry about clinton :D :D :D :D :D :D
Take a look at the unemployment levels and the skyrocketing healthcare premiums. Those are items about which Americans are crying.
And, the irony of it all is the bulk of the wailing is coming from the folks who voted for Obama. But, hey, elections have consequences.
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i think we heard this same old song and dance before this last election,but, hey, keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better
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i think we heard this same old song and dance before this last election,but, hey, keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better
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i think we heard this same old song and dance before this last election,but, hey, keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better
We're way past the election. We're talking about the actual impact on the country, as in lack of jobs, higher premiums, just to say the least.
But, hey, all those jobless folks and those bleeding cash via higher premiums can take comfort that Obama won the 2012 election.
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Since when is the UK Telegraph a conservative paper?
"They've fallen into the same trap that the Bush administration did early on," says Tom Jocelyn, a senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies think tank who tracks the movements of high-value al-Qaeda targets.
"They define al-Qaeda as a hierarchical terrorist organisation such that if you kill 'x' number of leaders then the whole thing falls apart."
But the early information on the Tsarnaev brothers – born in Kyrgyzstan to a Chechen family, but living in the US for up to a decade – points to just how blurred, in reality, the distinctions between al-Qaeda and its affiliates can become.
"It's a hybrid thing, that's the problem," says Aaron Zelin, a fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy who has written extensively about the decentralisation of al-Qaeda. "It's a unique threat, there's nothing like it and that's why people have a hard time grasping what it is."
Looked at that way, Mr Obama's "confidence" – and that of the American public – is likely to be badly shaken by what is emerging from Boston.
As usual, every time yet another Obama failure pops up, you don the kneepads and crank out the excuses.
That bold statement is precisely why Benghazi keeps getting swept under the rug, as well as the liberal idiots' shameless cheerleading that the bombers would be "white Americans" (technically, one of them is; but that ain't what those rubes wanted).
yes - Centre-right Conservative
why did you think otherwise?
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yes - Centre-right Conservative
why did you think otherwise?
The fact is that otwink sucks
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The fact is that otwink sucks
stalking me again Nancy
where is your fanboy tonight ?
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stalking me again Nancy
where is your fanboy tonight ?
That gay twink promised he would not rest
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That gay twink promised he would not rest
Bereft Fairy ?
Don't worry. I'm sure he will show up soon to stroke you
In the meantime why don't you go look for some photos of TBombz to hold you over
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Obama lied terrorism thrived.
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Obama lied terrorism thrived.
And, that's the issue here.
They define al-Qaeda as a hierarchical terrorist organisation such that if you kill 'x' number of leaders then the whole thing falls apart."
Because "Obama got Osama", terrorism (and Team Obama didn't even want to use the word) was dwindling, Al-Qaeda was on the run, and America was supposedly stronger.
Well, that narrative has been literally blown to pieces. This was what the leftist lapdogs in the media feared, which was why they were hoping and (vritually) praying the killers were "white Americans". One actually was, technically.
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And, that's the issue here.
They define al-Qaeda as a hierarchical terrorist organisation such that if you kill 'x' number of leaders then the whole thing falls apart."
Because "Obama got Osama", terrorism (and Team Obama didn't even want to use the word) was dwindling, Al-Qaeda was on the run, and America was supposedly stronger.
Well, that narrative has been literally blown to pieces. This was what the leftist lapdogs in the media feared, which was why they were hoping and (vritually) praying the killers were "white Americans". One actually was, technically.
lol one editorial in a paper :D :D grasping at anything to make yourself to feel better,hey,only 3 1/2 more years than you get clinton :D :D
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WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama's advisers will remove religious terms such as "Islamic extremism" from the central document outlining the U.S. national security strategy and will use the rewritten document to emphasize that the United States does not view Muslim nations through the lens of terror, counterterrorism officials said.
The change is a significant shift in the National Security Strategy, a document that previously outlined the Bush Doctrine of preventative war and currently states: "The struggle against militant Islamic radicalism is the great ideological conflict of the early years of the 21st century."
The officials described the changes on condition of anonymity because the document still was being written, and the White House would not discuss it. But rewriting the strategy document will be the latest example of Obama putting his stamp on U.S. foreign policy, like his promises to dismantle nuclear weapons and limit the situations in which they can be used.
The revisions are part of a larger effort about which the White House talks openly, one that seeks to change not just how the United States talks to Muslim nations, but also what it talks to them about, from health care and science to business startups and education.
That shift away from terrorism has been building for a year, since Obama went to Cairo, Egypt, and promised a "new beginning" in the relationship between the United States and the Muslim world. The White House believes the previous administration based that relationship entirely on fighting terror and winning the war of ideas.
"You take a country where the overwhelming majority are not going to become terrorists, and you go in and say, 'We're building you a hospital so you don't become terrorists.' That doesn't make much sense," said National Security Council staffer Pradeep Ramamurthy.
Ramamurthy runs the administration's Global Engagement Directorate, a four-person National Security Council team that Obama launched last May with little fanfare and a vague mission to use diplomacy and outreach "in pursuit of a host of national security objectives."
Since then, the division has not only helped change the vocabulary of fighting terror but also has shaped the way the country invests in Muslim businesses, studies global warming, supports scientific research and combats polio.
Before diplomats go abroad, they hear from the Ramamurthy or his deputy, Jenny Urizar. When officials from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration returned from Indonesia, the NSC got a rundown about research opportunities on global warming.
Ramamurthy maintains a database of interviews conducted by 50 U.S. embassies worldwide. And business leaders from more than 40 countries head to Washington this month for an "entrepreneurship summit" for Muslim businesses.
"Do you want to think about the U.S. as the nation that fights terrorism or the nation you want to do business with?" Ramamurthy said.
To deliver that message, Obama's speechwriters have taken inspiration from an unlikely source: former President Ronald Reagan. Visiting communist China in 1984, Reagan spoke to Fudan University in Shanghai about education, space exploration and scientific research.
He discussed freedom and liberty. He never mentioned communism or democracy.
"They didn't look up to the U.S. because we hated communism," said Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes, Obama's foreign policy speechwriter.
Like Reagan in China, Obama in Cairo made only passing references to terrorism. Instead he focused on cooperation. He announced the United States would team up to fight polio with the Organisation of the Islamic Conference, a multinational body based in Saudi Arabia.
The United States and the OIC had worked together before, but never with that focus.
"President Obama saw it as an opportunity to say, `We work on things far beyond the war on terrorism,"' said World Health Organization spokeswoman Sona Bari.
Polio is endemic in three Muslim countries -- Nigeria, Pakistan and Afghanistan -- but some Muslim leaders have been suspicious of vaccination efforts, which they believed to be part of a CIA sterilization campaign. Last year, the OIC and religious scholars at the International Islamic Fiqh Academy issued a fatwa, or religious decree, that parents should have their children vaccinated.
"We're probably entering into a whole new level of engagement between the OIC and the polio program because of the stimulus coming from the U.S. government," said Michael Galway, who works on polio eradication for the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
The Centers for Disease Control also began working more closely with local Islamic leaders in northern Nigeria, a network that had been overlooked for years, said John Fitzsimmons, the deputy director of the CDC's immunization division.
Though health officials are reluctant to assign credit to any one action, new polio cases in Nigeria fell from 83 during the first quarter of last year to just one so far this year, Fitzsimmons said.
Public opinion polls also showed consistent improvement in U.S. sentiment within the Muslim world last year, although the viewpoints are still overwhelmingly negative, however.
Obama did not invent Muslim outreach. President George W. Bush gave the White House its first Quran, hosted its first Iftar dinner to celebrate Ramadan, and loudly stated support for Muslim democracies like Turkey.
But the Bush administration struggled with its rhetoric. Muslims criticized him for describing the war against terror as a "crusade" and labeling the invasion of Afghanistan "Operation Infinite Justice" -- words that were seen as religious. He regularly identified America's enemy as "Islamic extremists" and "radical jihadists."
Karen Hughes, a Bush confidant who served as his top diplomat to the Muslim world in his second term, urged the White House to stop.
"I did recommend that, in my judgment, it's unfortunate because of the way it's heard. We ought to avoid the language of religion," Hughes said. "Whenever they hear 'Islamic extremism, Islamic jihad, Islamic fundamentalism,' they perceive it as a sort of an attack on their faith. That's the world view Osama bin Laden wants them to have."
Hughes and Juan Zarate, Bush's former deputy national security adviser, said Obama's efforts build on groundwork from Bush's second term, when some of the rhetoric softened. But by then, Zarate said, it was overshadowed by the Guantanamo Bay detention center, the abuses at Abu Ghraib prison and a prolonged Iraq war.
"In some ways, it didn't matter what the president did or said. People weren't going to be listening to him in the way we wanted them to," Zarate said. "The difference is, President Obama had a fresh start."
Obama's foreign policy posture is not without political risk. Even as Obama steps up airstrikes on terrorists abroad, he has proven vulnerable to Republican criticism on security issues at home, such as the failed Christmas Day airline bombing and the announced-then-withdrawn plan to prosecute 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed in New York.
Peter Feaver, a Duke University political scientist and former Bush adviser, is skeptical of Obama's engagement effort. It "doesn't appear to have created much in the way of strategic benefit" in the Middle East peace process or in negotiations over Iran's nuclear ambitions, he said.
Obama runs the political risk of seeming to adopt politically correct rhetoric abroad while appearing tone deaf on national security issues at home, Feaver said.
The White House dismisses such criticism. In June, Obama will travel to Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim country, and is expected to revisit many of the themes of his Cairo speech.
"This is the long-range direction we need to go in," Ramamurthy said.
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lol one editorial in a paper :D :D grasping at anything to make yourself to feel better,hey,only 3 1/2 more years than you get clinton :D :D
We're talking about the issue of terror here. You're stuck on the election. Obama won! YAAAAAAAY!!!!
And what do we have to show for it, again?
Oh that's right!!! High unemployment, high gas prices, and now terrorist attacks on American soil.
But, hey, elections have consequences.