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Re: UK paper slams Obama over lulling USA into denial over terrorism.
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2013, 05:11:51 AM »
In his State of the Union address to the American people earlier this year, Barack Obama declared that he was "confident" of achieving "our objective of defeating the core of al-Qaeda".
Although he acknowledged the need to pursue the "remnants" of the terrorist group and its affiliates, the overall message was clear – al-Qaeda was badly degraded, the tides of war were receding and the US was winning this fight that was no longer even officially a war.
The Boston bombings would appear to present a fundamental challenge to that assessment and once again bring the nagging uncertainty of terrorism back on to the American main street.

It is too soon to be absolutely sure the attacks were motivated by jihadist ideology, but the Islamic videos on the website of the older of the two Tsarnaev brothers point very firmly in that direction.
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They bring home the complexity of the global Islamist threat and the fact that it cannot be confined to wars in distant lands, or fought at arm's length using drones, as the Obama administration has quietly yet insistently led America to believe.
Mr Obama and his intelligence community know the threat from al-Qaeda affiliates, but have chosen to downplay it to the US public.

Even when that fight does directly touch on American lives, as it did last September when the US ambassador to Libya was murdered in Benghazi by an al-Qaeda linked group, the administration appears at pains to deny the connection.
Indeed, next week, America's transportation authority is to relax rules on carrying knives on planes for the first time since the September 11 attacks.
But as many counter-terrorism experts have been saying – their voices often drowned out or ignored in favour of the pleasing simplicity of the Obama administration's narrative – the threat from al-Qaeda is too amorphous and shifting to ever have been discounted.
"They've fallen into the same trap that the Bush administration did early on," says Tom Jocelyn, a senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies think tank who tracks the movements of high-value al-Qaeda targets.
"They define al-Qaeda as a hierarchical terrorist organisation such that if you kill 'x' number of leaders then the whole thing falls apart."

But the early information on the Tsarnaev brothers – born in Kyrgyzstan to a Chechen family, but living in the US for up to a decade – points to just how blurred, in reality, the distinctions between al-Qaeda and its affiliates can become.

"It's a hybrid thing, that's the problem," says Aaron Zelin, a fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy who has written extensively about the decentralisation of al-Qaeda. "It's a unique threat, there's nothing like it and that's why people have a hard time grasping what it is."
Looked at that way, Mr Obama's "confidence" – and that of the American public – is likely to be badly shaken by what is emerging from Boston.
 
   

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Re: UK paper slams Obama over lulling USA into denial over terrorism.
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2013, 08:09:48 AM »
BFD - a conservative leaning paper criticizes a Democratic POTUS

Let's get real for a second

terrorism kills very few people in this country

guns kill 30k every year

so if we're going to do nothing about guns then why should we do anything about a much much much much smaller problem?

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Re: UK paper slams Obama over lulling USA into denial over terrorism.
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2013, 08:15:16 AM »



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Re: UK paper slams Obama over lulling USA into denial over terrorism.
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2013, 08:17:52 AM »
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Re: UK paper slams Obama over lulling USA into denial over terrorism.
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2013, 08:20:05 AM »
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Really dipshit -

What is a gun murder? 

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Re: UK paper slams Obama over lulling USA into denial over terrorism.
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2013, 08:42:38 AM »
Really dipshit -

What is a gun murder? 

I know that must really be confusing for you

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Re: UK paper slams Obama over lulling USA into denial over terrorism.
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2013, 08:43:18 AM »
I know that must really be confusing for you

It is because i did know guns commit crimes

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Re: UK paper slams Obama over lulling USA into denial over terrorism.
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2013, 08:51:48 AM »
It is because i did know guns commit crimes

like I said

you're obviously and easily confused


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Re: UK paper slams Obama over lulling USA into denial over terrorism.
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2013, 11:54:16 AM »
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Re: UK paper slams Obama over lulling USA into denial over terrorism.
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Re: UK paper slams Obama over lulling USA into denial over terrorism.
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2013, 02:07:43 PM »
They really need to ban murder.

why bother
laws against murder don't stop anyone from doing it so we might as well not have any laws

shit, why do we even have a Congress that creates laws

criminals don't follow the law so what's the point

all it does is harm law abiding citizens


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Re: UK paper slams Obama over lulling USA into denial over terrorism.
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2013, 05:29:31 PM »
BFD - a conservative leaning paper criticizes a Democratic POTUS

Let's get real for a second

terrorism kills very few people in this country

guns kill 30k every year

so if we're going to do nothing about guns then why should we do anything about a much much much much smaller problem?

Since when is the UK Telegraph a conservative paper?


"They've fallen into the same trap that the Bush administration did early on," says Tom Jocelyn, a senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies think tank who tracks the movements of high-value al-Qaeda targets.

"They define al-Qaeda as a hierarchical terrorist organisation such that if you kill 'x' number of leaders then the whole thing falls apart."

But the early information on the Tsarnaev brothers – born in Kyrgyzstan to a Chechen family, but living in the US for up to a decade – points to just how blurred, in reality, the distinctions between al-Qaeda and its affiliates can become.

"It's a hybrid thing, that's the problem," says Aaron Zelin, a fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy who has written extensively about the decentralisation of al-Qaeda. "It's a unique threat, there's nothing like it and that's why people have a hard time grasping what it is."

Looked at that way, Mr Obama's "confidence" – and that of the American public – is likely to be badly shaken by what is emerging from Boston.


As usual, every time yet another Obama failure pops up, you don the kneepads and crank out the excuses.

That bold statement is precisely why Benghazi keeps getting swept under the rug, as well as the liberal idiots' shameless cheerleading that the bombers would be "white Americans" (technically, one of them is; but that ain't what those rubes wanted).

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Re: UK paper slams Obama over lulling USA into denial over terrorism.
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2013, 05:35:43 PM »
Since when is the UK Telegraph a conservative paper?

As usual, every time yet another Obama failure pops up, you don the kneepads and crank out the excuses.


Bad week to be an Obama dildo for sure.

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Re: UK paper slams Obama over lulling USA into denial over terrorism.
« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2013, 06:49:26 PM »
lol bad 4 years for the repub babies,look on the bright side only another 3 1/2 years than you can cry about clinton  :D :D :D :D :D :D

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Re: UK paper slams Obama over lulling USA into denial over terrorism.
« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2013, 07:46:56 PM »
lol bad 4 years for the repub babies,look on the bright side only another 3 1/2 years than you can cry about clinton  :D :D :D :D :D :D

Take a look at the unemployment levels and the skyrocketing healthcare premiums. Those are items about which Americans are crying.

And, the irony of it all is the bulk of the wailing is coming from the folks who voted for Obama. But, hey, elections have consequences.

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Re: UK paper slams Obama over lulling USA into denial over terrorism.
« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2013, 07:52:49 PM »
i think we heard this same old song and dance before this last election,but, hey, keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better

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Re: UK paper slams Obama over lulling USA into denial over terrorism.
« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2013, 08:28:17 PM »
i think we heard this same old song and dance before this last election,but, hey, keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better


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Re: UK paper slams Obama over lulling USA into denial over terrorism.
« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2013, 08:44:28 PM »
i think we heard this same old song and dance before this last election,but, hey, keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better

We're way past the election. We're talking about the actual impact on the country, as in lack of jobs, higher premiums, just to say the least.

But, hey, all those jobless folks and those bleeding cash via higher premiums can take comfort that Obama won the 2012 election.

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Re: UK paper slams Obama over lulling USA into denial over terrorism.
« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2013, 08:49:40 PM »
Since when is the UK Telegraph a conservative paper?


"They've fallen into the same trap that the Bush administration did early on," says Tom Jocelyn, a senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies think tank who tracks the movements of high-value al-Qaeda targets.

"They define al-Qaeda as a hierarchical terrorist organisation such that if you kill 'x' number of leaders then the whole thing falls apart."

But the early information on the Tsarnaev brothers – born in Kyrgyzstan to a Chechen family, but living in the US for up to a decade – points to just how blurred, in reality, the distinctions between al-Qaeda and its affiliates can become.

"It's a hybrid thing, that's the problem," says Aaron Zelin, a fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy who has written extensively about the decentralisation of al-Qaeda. "It's a unique threat, there's nothing like it and that's why people have a hard time grasping what it is."

Looked at that way, Mr Obama's "confidence" – and that of the American public – is likely to be badly shaken by what is emerging from Boston.


As usual, every time yet another Obama failure pops up, you don the kneepads and crank out the excuses.

That bold statement is precisely why Benghazi keeps getting swept under the rug, as well as the liberal idiots' shameless cheerleading that the bombers would be "white Americans" (technically, one of them is; but that ain't what those rubes wanted).


yes - Centre-right Conservative

why did you think otherwise?

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Re: UK paper slams Obama over lulling USA into denial over terrorism.
« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2013, 08:51:09 PM »
yes - Centre-right Conservative

why did you think otherwise?


The fact is that otwink sucks

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Re: UK paper slams Obama over lulling USA into denial over terrorism.
« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2013, 08:52:29 PM »
The fact is that otwink sucks

stalking me again Nancy

where is your fanboy tonight ?

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Re: UK paper slams Obama over lulling USA into denial over terrorism.
« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2013, 08:57:52 PM »
stalking me again Nancy

where is your fanboy tonight ?

That gay twink promised he would not rest 

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Re: UK paper slams Obama over lulling USA into denial over terrorism.
« Reply #24 on: April 20, 2013, 09:02:00 PM »
That gay twink promised he would not rest 

Bereft Fairy ?

Don't worry.  I'm sure he will show up soon to stroke you

In the meantime why don't you go look for some photos of TBombz to hold you over