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Title: stretch marks
Post by: TNTBOOM on December 21, 2005, 05:13:52 AM

Ok i know this is going to sound gay.............
 but since i went from 170 to 200
i notice i got a few stretch mark right under my arm pits by where the chest meets the biceps ( i dont know if im explaining myself )
and by where the lat meets the triceps (does that makes sense )
anyway
im a little subconscious about it and it bothering me BIG TIME
does anybody here know of something i can do to at least make them a little less noticeable?

thanks in advance
Title: Re: stretch marks
Post by: Sculpter on December 21, 2005, 05:31:02 AM
I think i've seen written that vitamin E is supposed to help w/stretch marks.
Title: Re: stretch marks
Post by: pumpster on December 21, 2005, 06:20:39 AM
These are very typical areas for stretch marks and are indicative of great progress.

Don't worry about them. Years later you'll probably wish you could have more since it's only in rare instances that growth spurts are sufficient to cause them.

First of all, stretch marks rarely occur in areas that are highly visible. The classic areas are the two you've mentioned, as well as on the inside, underneath areas of the triceps and insides of the thighs. The only obviously visible area is the first one you mentioned, between chest and bi tie-ins.

Second, they invariably fade and blend in with surrounding skin.

Given their location and eventual change in color, most areas are only noticable if you're specifically looking for them.
Title: Re: stretch marks
Post by: Aido on December 21, 2005, 07:18:24 AM
As sculpter said you can get Vitamin E cream that should deal with them. I can't remember what type but my sister gave me some, had stretch marks in the same places you do, and tigerstrips down both biceps as well. Cleared em up nicely.
Title: Re: stretch marks
Post by: muscle19 on December 21, 2005, 09:01:38 AM
hey man, they are our battle scars bro, live to accept them, if u plan on gaining weight or building more muscle, they will come, but try to get some stretch mark creams (like the ones they make for pregnant women) they do work but it takes a while (personal experience)


muscle
Title: Re: stretch marks
Post by: GET_BIGGER on December 21, 2005, 09:09:06 AM
I like my stretch marks........its the ones on my belly I have to worry about.....  ;D
Title: Re: stretch marks
Post by: Overload on December 21, 2005, 09:09:49 AM
hey man, they are our battle scars bro, live to accept them, if u plan on gaining weight or building more muscle, they will come


muscle

Right on, they are battle scars!!!!! wear them with pride!!!

the only thing that helps is to tan in the sun regularly...i have them in the same spots and some people are freaked out by them.


 8)

Title: Re: stretch marks
Post by: knny187 on December 21, 2005, 09:12:15 AM
Some people need more help than others
Title: Re: stretch marks
Post by: JPM on December 21, 2005, 09:40:07 AM
I agree with Muscle 19, stretch marks can be considered badges of honor to some guy's. I've got them heavily on the pec/delt tie in, delts, lats,  biceps/triceps and legs/calves. I'm about a light natural brown skin color but when I'm surfing  (great time now...20 footers approaching SoCal) I get a dark brown and the scars stay a lighter, off color. Almost looks like a road map on my body. Salt water seems to make them more noticeable. Stretch marks are skin tears due to extra fast expansion of the tissue. Something like scar tissue. Usually guy's who make extra fast gains are subjected to them. Though even gaining fat can give the same results. I got most of mine at around 16 to 18 even though ,at that age, the skin is very flexable.

Don't think that any/lotion cream would help get rid of the scars after you get them because there is a tissue gap/space between the healthy skin. You might lessen their appearence but not completly get rid of them. Though I may be wrong on both these points. A laser treatment may correct this, like the way they are removing old tat's, covering acme scars, etc. Lot's of big bucks though.  Applying lotion/creams might help avoid them (before you get them) before and after training. I've heard of some guy's just using olive oil or the likes on there skin but with all the medical advancements there are quite a few options. Good Luck.
Title: Re: stretch marks
Post by: TNTBOOM on December 21, 2005, 10:44:15 AM
i really appreciate the input guys

i guess its part of gettign big
 :'(

ill try a few creams see how they work

thanks again bros 8)
Title: Re: stretch marks
Post by: Cavalier22 on December 21, 2005, 02:26:14 PM
i actually think my stretch marks are a badge of hard work in the gym.  i like em
Title: Re: stretch marks
Post by: Bobby on December 21, 2005, 03:18:35 PM
As sculpter said you can get Vitamin E cream that should deal with them. I can't remember what type but my sister gave me some, had stretch marks in the same places you do, and tigerstrips down both biceps as well. Cleared em up nicely.

How does it look now? did they completely dissapear, or are they like almost invisible ?
Title: Re: stretch marks
Post by: pumpster on December 21, 2005, 03:55:49 PM
Keep in mind that they naturally blend into skin color over time, so it's hard to credit lotions for this. I doubt the efficacy of any lotion.
Title: Re: stretch marks
Post by: Loomis on December 21, 2005, 04:04:11 PM
i actually think my stretch marks are a badge of hard work in the gym.  i like em
agree
Title: Re: stretch marks
Post by: brianX on December 21, 2005, 05:45:10 PM
You are a man, my son.
Title: Re: stretch marks
Post by: onlyme on December 21, 2005, 08:05:21 PM
Just be careful about chicks with stretch marks on around their mouths.
Title: Re: stretch marks
Post by: Loomis on December 21, 2005, 09:32:50 PM
Just be careful about chicks with stretch marks on around their mouths.
;D
Title: Re: stretch marks
Post by: JPM on December 21, 2005, 09:44:30 PM
Actually stretch marks do not blend with the natural skin after time, even if their only sight ones. They have less protective fat cells and more damaged tissue than normal skin. They stay discolored, more so if your out in the sun for long periods. Good luck.
Title: Re: stretch marks
Post by: Carmello on December 21, 2005, 10:03:48 PM
I think what we're missing here is preventive maintenance. U gotta look at yourself in the mirror everyday. If u start seeing a small developing stretch mark, then apply cocoa butter to it, or a good oat lotion. I caught mine today, and I'm gonna lotion it everyday so's it won't be so bad. Ironic.
Title: Re: stretch marks
Post by: pumpster on December 21, 2005, 10:03:57 PM
Generally speaking the marks become far less noticable over time; that was my own experience, to the point that they're virtually invisible unless scrutinized.

Excerpt:
Depending on your natural skin colouring, stretch marks begin as raised pink, reddish brown or dark brown lines that later turn a brighter violet or purple. Gradually these bright marks flatten and fade to a colour a few shades lighter than your natural skin tone. They usually become less noticeable over time.

http://www.wwu.edu/chw/ask_the_doc/post/1133.html
Title: Re: stretch marks
Post by: Aido on December 22, 2005, 05:52:35 AM
How does it look now? did they completely dissapear, or are they like almost invisible ?

Nah they didn't disappear, but 98% of the red went out of them. I think they will always look a little different that the normally skin, as they seem smoother somewhat , but they are not red raw at all like when they first started to develop!!
Title: Re: stretch marks
Post by: onlyme on December 22, 2005, 10:11:13 AM
Use Kukui Nut oil on your skin.  It s absolutely the best oil you can by.  It is higher in essential oils than any other nut oil available.  It is highly polyunsaturated.  It has unreal healingprperties too.  The US givernment spent nearly a $500.000 to research the oil.  It has beeter healing properties than the aloe vera plant.  My daughter uses it everyday and when she was pregnant she made sure she spread it all over her belly and side.  NO stretch marks after having the baby.  It is used by burn units all over the  world.  The owner sent me some to put on my leg after the bite and I swear i have no scaring and the skin has no difference than surrounding skin.  Nearly every major cosmetic company in the world uses some Kukui Nut oil in their products.  It is very expensive.  I used to buy it by the barrel which was $8,000 a barrel for my suntan lotion company.  In the stores it is $32 a pint.
Title: Re: stretch marks
Post by: Cavalier22 on December 22, 2005, 01:07:03 PM
did you ever get revenge with that spider??
Title: Re: stretch marks
Post by: onlyme on December 22, 2005, 07:38:51 PM
No but i have on at least 1000 of his relatives
Title: Re: stretch marks
Post by: Laura Lee on December 22, 2005, 07:53:06 PM
Some people need more help than others
who is that knny?
Title: Re: stretch marks
Post by: Laura Lee on December 22, 2005, 07:54:04 PM
Just be careful about chicks with stretch marks on around their mouths.
afraid you'll never measure up?  j/k   ;)
Title: Re: stretch marks
Post by: TNTBOOM on December 23, 2005, 05:44:21 AM
Use Kukui Nut oil on your skin.  It s absolutely the best oil you can by.  It is higher in essential oils than any other nut oil available.  It is highly polyunsaturated.  It has unreal healingprperties too.  The US givernment spent nearly a $500.000 to research the oil.  It has beeter healing properties than the aloe vera plant.  My daughter uses it everyday and when she was pregnant she made sure she spread it all over her belly and side.  NO stretch marks after having the baby.  It is used by burn units all over the  world.  The owner sent me some to put on my leg after the bite and I swear i have no scaring and the skin has no difference than surrounding skin.  Nearly every major cosmetic company in the world uses some Kukui Nut oil in their products.  It is very expensive.  I used to buy it by the barrel which was $8,000 a barrel for my suntan lotion company.  In the stores it is $32 a pint.
Is there a website where i can buy this stuff from?

pardon the ignorance
Title: Re: stretch marks
Post by: stockykid on December 23, 2005, 07:07:37 AM
you should try coco butter by palmers, it works , just put it on the stretch marks every day.
Title: Re: stretch marks
Post by: Jr. Yates on December 23, 2005, 10:40:51 AM
tanning and vitamen E is what everyone tells me. I got them down the inside of my bicep, behind my shoulders, on the underneath of my Tri's and in my arm pits. People notice them everywhere i go. Don't let it bother you they come with gains so try your best to take care of em but don't let them stop your gains.
Title: Re: stretch marks
Post by: knny187 on December 23, 2005, 12:02:59 PM
who is that knny?

I tranny that has the hots for teh knny
Title: Re: stretch marks
Post by: pumpster on December 23, 2005, 12:44:20 PM
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I got them down the inside of my bicep, behind my shoulders, on the underneath of my Tri's and in my arm pits.

These are mostly areas that aren't that visible. I doubt they're noticing them as much as you think; they'll become less visible and blend in well after some more time passes.
Title: Re: stretch marks
Post by: Jr. Yates on December 23, 2005, 12:53:06 PM
yeah. Its mainly the ones on my biceps that people have seen. They'll get a glimpse of them and they'll be like whoa what was that on your arm...are those veins!?!  but your right they have gotten alot better slowly but surely.
Title: Re: stretch marks
Post by: 24KT on December 23, 2005, 02:45:11 PM
Ok i know this is going to sound gay.............
 but since i went from 170 to 200
i notice i got a few stretch mark right under my arm pits by where the chest meets the biceps ( i dont know if im explaining myself )
and by where the lat meets the triceps (does that makes sense )
anyway
im a little subconscious about it and it bothering me BIG TIME
does anybody here know of something i can do to at least make them a little less noticeable?

thanks in advance

Hi TNTBOOM,
There are only 2 products I know of that will alleviate stretchmarks.
One is Strivectin, and the other is a product I carry called TriAction (http://www.jaguar.mysynergy.net/SynergyCorp/Content.aspx?PageID=1356&CatalogItemID=12&OrderType=2)[/b][/color]. <---clickable link

They are both expensive. Stretch marks will naturally fade over time, and alot of people say use Vitamin E, Cocoa butter, Shea butter etc., which are considered 1st generation products in that the only thing they do is lubricate and soften the skin. They may feel good, but they do nothing to actually alter the underlying structure of the dermis (deep inner layer of skin). It's kind of like trying to paint a wall with cracks and holes in it. You need to smooth out the surface first, before you paint. Unfortunately, you can't patch cracks & crevices in the skin, the same way you can on a wall. You need to have a lipofilling action taking place internally in the skin, ...similar to plumping up a balloon. You need a product capable of penetrating past the epidermis (outer layer of the skin) and deep into the dermis (deep inner layer of the skin) to affect the inner composition of the skin. Most oils are incapabable of penetrating into the epidermis much less the dermis. They'll feel good on your skin, but you might just end up with pimples. If you are going to try a cream of some sort, make sure that what you use contains "oligopeptides" capable of remodeling the dermal matrix of the skin, and that the product has a liposomal delivery system capable of penetrating down to the dermis.

A liposome works like a targetted heat-seeking missile. It is the envelope that carries the active ingredients to do the job. In the case of TriAction, which is a 3rd generation skincare product, our uniquely shaped liposomes penetrate deep into the dermis, where they encounter a specific PH. It is at this point, that the liposomes break open to deliver their cargo to the working cells of the skin (the fibroblasts and the keratinocytes etc). The oligopeptides signal the skin cells to grow and to turn over more quickly as well as to produce more collagen & elastin and to create a greater interface between the dermis and epidermis. This results in a lipofilling action, similar to blowing up a balloon, while the Kombucha affects the fat deposition beneath the dermis, all resulting in improved blood flow and circulation to the skin, greater elasticity to the skin, more radiance and a smoother appearance to the surface etc.

For a graphic display of how it works, consider viewing this clickable flash presentation (http://www.jaguarenterprises.org/presentation.htm)[/b][/color]. At about slide 16, it starts to discuss the skincare.

You may also download a pdf TriAction fact sheet (http://www.jaguarenterprises.org/pdfs/triaction.pdf)[/b][/color], as well as a TriAction product brochure (http://www.jaguarenterprises.org/pdfs/triactionbrochure.pdf)[/b][/color].

Bare in mind, any product would be a waste of money if you continued to do what gave you the stretch marks to begin with (growing your muscles faster than your skin grows). You'd simply be re-inforcing those that you already have as well as creating new ones. The best way to deal with stretch marks is to simply avoid getting them to begin with. It's hard I know, ...especially since we get them as we're getting bigger, and most often only really notice them after we've gone down slightly in size. Other than that, ...there's TriAction. I had stretch marks on my breasts, and was able to get rid of them. And before any of you smart alecks ask, the answer is NO, I will not be posting any pictures.  ;)

Hope That Helps,
(http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/Judi-sig50.jpg)
Title: Re: stretch marks
Post by: Bobby on December 23, 2005, 03:35:20 PM
Did you use triactin and got rid of them completely ???
Title: Re: stretch marks
Post by: 24KT on December 24, 2005, 01:00:32 AM
Did you use triactin and got rid of them completely ???

Yes, ...so far as I can tell. The skin is also firmer, tighter, and more toned too. With my use of Synergy's ProArgi-9 (http://www.jaguarenterprises.org/products.htm)[/b][/color], I've also built up the underlying pectoralis muscles that both lift and support my breasts as well so they're much perkier than they've been in years. Haven't worn a bra since April 2004 and lovin' it.   :P (Although, with our Canadian winters, ...things tend to get a little nippy sometimes. <pun intended>)   ;D

In addition to the TriAction (http://www.jaguar.mysynergy.net/SynergyCorp/Content.aspx?PageID=1356&CatalogItemID=12&OrderType=2)[/b][/color], I also use Synergy's Total Body Wash (http://www.jaguar.mysynergy.net/SynergyCorp/Content.aspx?PageID=1356&CatalogItemID=22&OrderType=2)[/b][/color] which also incorporates the Gen III skincare technology (http://www.jaguar.mysynergy.net/SynergyCorp/Content.aspx?PageID=1343)[/b][/color], so between the 3 of them, I'll be keeping the plastic surgeon at bay for a very, very, long time (From my lips to God's ears!)  8)

Hope That Helps,
(http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/Judi-sig50.jpg)
Title: Re: stretch marks
Post by: Bobby on December 24, 2005, 07:53:28 AM
So you can't even tell there used to be stretch marks there ? got any documentation, before and after?

how do i get my paws on this? I get runtime error when i click the link

Title: Re: stretch marks
Post by: onlyme on December 24, 2005, 08:48:58 AM
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Is there a website where i can buy this stuff from?


I think it's www.oilsofaloha.com  awesome stuff that works.  it has been used by hawaiian for hudreds of years. No fancy shit all mixed together like other companies have.  It is 100% pure and cold pressed.  Has a zillion scientific studies backing its properties.  It takes diaper rash away overnight on kids.  Unlike some other stuff peddled here I don't own any of this company or make a dime.  It just works.
Title: Re: stretch marks
Post by: 24KT on December 24, 2005, 04:40:31 PM
So you can't even tell there used to be stretch marks there ?

Nope. You can't tell at all.

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got any documentation, before and after?

No sorry. I didn't take before or after pics. Those aren't exactly the kind of pics I'd want floating around.

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how do i get my paws on this? I get runtime error when i click the link

Ya, that occasionally happens, especially when they are updating or doing maintenance on the sight.

Are you in the UK?
Title: Re: stretch marks
Post by: Pommy on December 26, 2005, 06:38:05 AM
Ok i know this is going to sound gay.............
 but since i went from 170 to 200
i notice i got a few stretch mark right under my arm pits by where the chest meets the biceps ( i dont know if im explaining myself )
and by where the lat meets the triceps (does that makes sense )
anyway
im a little subconscious about it and it bothering me BIG TIME
does anybody here know of something i can do to at least make them a little less noticeable?

thanks in advance

man pretty weird, i have the exact same stretch marks, where lat meets tri on my right arm and where chest meets bicep on my left, although i dont really think its worth doing anything about, mine are so small they're barly noticible