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Title: Ditching Weights = Rejuvenation
Post by: The_Hammer on April 23, 2013, 08:15:38 PM
"Muscles don't mean shit"- Freddie Roach


When I heard that I decided to ditch bodybuilding and do body weight exercises just to see what would happen...

2 months later I'm leaner, faster, & much better cardio conditioned. 

Not shitting on bodybuilding, but I my body feels healthy now.

Anyone else make this transition? 



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Title: Re: Ditching Weights = Rejuvenation
Post by: TigerStripes on April 23, 2013, 08:22:08 PM
Yeah, I quit lifting a couple years ago.

I feel a lot better. My body feels less worn down, no more constant soreness from workouts. I just wake up and my muscles are all fresh and ready to do real work.

Also I look almost the same. I lost some density, but my mass is the same and I'm just as lean.

After you max out with lifting after about 5 years, you can just quit. Beyond that its basically just a masturbatory ritual.
Title: Re: Ditching Weights = Rejuvenation
Post by: The_Hammer on April 23, 2013, 08:34:26 PM
Title: Re: Ditching Weights = Rejuvenation
Post by: BikiniSlut on April 23, 2013, 08:45:30 PM
What body weight exercises do you do.
Title: Re: Ditching Weights = Rejuvenation
Post by: Nomad on April 23, 2013, 08:55:52 PM
Boxing already stimulates plenty of muscle growth in chest, back, core and arms. No need for weight training.

Title: Re: Ditching Weights = Rejuvenation
Post by: The_Hammer on April 23, 2013, 09:02:37 PM
What body weight exercises do you do.

push ups and dips for chest, anterior delts, and triceps

chins and upper back rows on my Total Gym, for cardio I use a rowing machine which also works my lats and legs

Hindu squats and rowing work my legs okay.  I haven't noticed any loss in size (not that they were big to begin with) but my muscular endurance has increased significantly since stopping squats, leg press, hack squats

I'm not personal trainer or expert, just figured I'd try the bread and butter exercises, and they've worked for me.


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Title: Re: Ditching Weights = Rejuvenation
Post by: The_Hammer on April 23, 2013, 09:12:21 PM
Title: Re: Ditching Weights = Rejuvenation
Post by: arce1988 on April 23, 2013, 09:16:11 PM
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Title: Re: Ditching Weights = Rejuvenation
Post by: The_Hammer on April 23, 2013, 09:22:19 PM
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Yeah, Manny got knocked out, but at least he brought the action and it was an incredible fight.

go back to your mcdojo arce
Title: Re: Ditching Weights = Rejuvenation
Post by: arce1988 on April 23, 2013, 09:28:35 PM
  Relax Hammer. I know Manny.
Title: Re: Ditching Weights = Rejuvenation
Post by: The_Hammer on April 23, 2013, 09:33:33 PM
  Relax Hammer. I know Manny.

no prob
Title: Re: Ditching Weights = Rejuvenation
Post by: TigerStripes on April 23, 2013, 09:35:06 PM
Pushups
Pull ups
squats

That's it.
Title: Re: Ditching Weights = Rejuvenation
Post by: BikiniSlut on April 23, 2013, 09:59:47 PM
  Relax Hammer. I know Manny.

As in you are a close personal friend or you have talked to him once or twice.
Title: Re: Ditching Weights = Rejuvenation
Post by: Dtank76 on April 23, 2013, 10:09:09 PM
apparently muscles DO matter since marquez couldnt knock him out until he added some
Title: Re: Ditching Weights = Rejuvenation
Post by: The_Hammer on April 23, 2013, 10:30:41 PM
apparently muscles DO matter since marquez couldnt knock him out until he added some

No, Manny got knocked out because the fight turned into a brawl.

Manny made 1 wrong move and Marquez took advantage.

Title: Re: Ditching Weights = Rejuvenation
Post by: mame09 on April 24, 2013, 01:32:54 AM
No, Manny got knocked out because the fight turned into a brawl.

Manny made 1 wrong move and Marquez took advantage.



that punch has been open since the begining of pacmans career

finally someone with skills caught him

and people thought pacman had a chance against mayweather lol
Title: Re: Ditching Weights = Rejuvenation
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on April 24, 2013, 01:35:46 AM
"Muscles don't mean shit"- Freddie Roach


When I heard that I decided to ditch bodybuilding and do body weight exercises just to see what would happen...

2 months later I'm leaner, faster, & much better cardio conditioned. 

Not shitting on bodybuilding, but I my body feels healthy now.

Anyone else make this transition? 

I have long understood this.  Only work out with weights "infrequently".
Title: Re: Ditching Weights = Rejuvenation
Post by: Roger Bacon on April 24, 2013, 01:52:36 AM
"Muscles don't mean shit"- Freddie Roach


When I heard that I decided to ditch bodybuilding and do body weight exercises just to see what would happen...

2 months later I'm leaner, faster, & much better cardio conditioned. 

Not shitting on bodybuilding, but I my body feels healthy now.

Anyone else make this transition? 

Fuck off you fat neggul lover
Title: Re: Ditching Weights = Rejuvenation
Post by: Tapeworm on April 24, 2013, 02:02:29 AM
Been 'meaning to' start up some planche and front lever training but haven't 'got around to it' yet.

And I want to learn to kong because it just looks cool.
Title: Re: Ditching Weights = Rejuvenation
Post by: nzmusclemonster on April 24, 2013, 02:13:31 AM
Fuck off you fat neggul lover

Brutal  :o
Title: Re: Ditching Weights = Rejuvenation
Post by: Red Hook on April 24, 2013, 04:19:23 AM
I get what you are trying to say, but they are different types of work outs and they serve different purposes. I am all for changing up your routine and try different things, but none is better than the other. The end goals are different, just pushing body weight won't give you or maintain a certain level of thickness.

For me instead of doing 50 pushups 5 times, I would much rather incline press 10 reps for 5 reps. Why not combine the best of both world? one month do body weights (calisthenics) and then the other month actually lift weights.

more and more I am getting into cycling, and a lot of cyclists have sworn off running since they consider riding a bike a more intense form of cardio.  But it would take you a couple of cycling to equal the cardio from running hills.

if you alternate you get the benefits of both, and also keep your work out routine fresh.




Title: Re: Ditching Weights = Rejuvenation
Post by: oldtimer1 on April 24, 2013, 05:15:46 AM
I have seen more guys who are in incredible shape who use body weight exercises than guys who lift weights. Maybe not steroid pose in your under wear look but real athletic shape. I lift but truth be told you can be ripped and be ass kicking ready from just running and body weight stuff.
Title: Re: Ditching Weights = Rejuvenation
Post by: hardgainerj on April 24, 2013, 05:33:23 AM

For me instead of doing 50 pushups 5 times, I would much rather incline press 10 reps for 5 reps. Why not combine the best of both world? one month do body weights (calisthenics) and then the other month actually lift weights.

more and more I am getting into cycling, and a lot of cyclists have sworn off running since they consider riding a bike a more intense form of cardio.  But it would take you a couple of cycling to equal the cardio from running hills.

if you alternate you get the benefits of both, and also keep your work out routine fresh.





it seems you are leaning more towards hypertrophy than S&C which is fine Im just a little confused by your point
Title: Re: Ditching Weights = Rejuvenation
Post by: hardgainerj on April 24, 2013, 05:35:25 AM
boxing in itself is hella workout
Title: Re: Ditching Weights = Rejuvenation
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on April 24, 2013, 05:39:22 AM
I've started doing hand stands and hand walking and it absolutely wrecks your whole upper body in a good way and I feel that my punches are instantly a lot sharper approaching that amateur boxer speed without a doubt.
Title: Re: Ditching Weights = Rejuvenation
Post by: illwill on April 24, 2013, 07:04:12 AM
Ross Enamait anyone? I combined one of his cardio routines to my LISS/weight programs and it immediately busted my plateau and got me in my best condition.

Www.rosstraining.com (http://Www.rosstraining.com)

After reading this thread I think I'll reacquaint myself to his methods but this time for strength.

Anyone have experience with his stuff?
Title: Re: Ditching Weights = Rejuvenation
Post by: hardgainerj on April 24, 2013, 07:07:16 AM
Ross Enamait anyone? I combined one of his cardio routines to my LISS/weight programs and it immediately busted my plateau and get me in my best condition.

Www.rosstraining.com (http://Www.rosstraining.com)

After reading this thread I think I'll reacquaint myself to his methods for strength.

Anyone have experience with his stuff?
i have numerously brought up the guy in these types of discussion so much that ross should write me a check

never gymless is a must have
Title: Re: Ditching Weights = Rejuvenation
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 07:11:57 AM
Yeah, I quit lifting a couple years ago.

I feel a lot better. My body feels less worn down, no more constant soreness from workouts. I just wake up and my muscles are all fresh and ready to do real work.

Also I look almost the same. I lost some density, but my mass is the same and I'm just as lean.

After you max out with lifting after about 5 years, you can just quit. Beyond that its basically just a masturbatory ritual.

true but to get sronger u have to lifts

and manny pacquiacu lifts moronr
Title: Re: Ditching Weights = Rejuvenation
Post by: Master Blaster on April 24, 2013, 07:11:57 AM
you need to do some curls and pushdowns

no weights = no arms   ;)
Title: Re: Ditching Weights = Rejuvenation
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 07:12:45 AM
"Muscles don't mean shit"- Freddie Roach


When I heard that I decided to ditch bodybuilding and do body weight exercises just to see what would happen...

2 months later I'm leaner, faster, & much better cardio conditioned. 

Not shitting on bodybuilding, but I my body feels healthy now.

Anyone else make this transition? 



(http://static.boxrec.com/wiki/6/6c/Ricky_Hatton_vs._Manny_Pacquiao.JPG)

if muscle don;'t mean shit why there are weight classes in boxing

YOU ARE FUCKING STUOPIDDDD
Title: Re: Ditching Weights = Rejuvenation
Post by: hardgainerj on April 24, 2013, 07:20:57 AM
you need to do some curls and pushdowns

no weights = no arms   ;)
pull up and dips = arms

ass blown
Title: Re: Ditching Weights = Rejuvenation
Post by: jprc10 on April 24, 2013, 07:37:00 AM
I did for a while now, I only do bodyweight stuff for my upper body, the basic chin ups, pull ups, dips, push ups, etc. I mainly do bodyweight stuff for legs too, but include some weighted work like db lunges or squats at least once a month.
To be honest I also look better than when I was training with weights, although it maybe simply because I stopped permabulking, lol.
One thing is for sure, when I was weight training I had a lot of nagging pains and small injuries all the time, tendonitis on my elbow, back pain, etc. and they all disappeared once I made the transition to bodyweight training, specially the tendonitis, I had it for a whole year and it wouldn't go away, until I stopped lifting weights and boom a few weeks later its gone.  
Title: Re: Ditching Weights = Rejuvenation
Post by: dj181 on April 24, 2013, 07:41:19 AM
more and more I am getting into cycling, and a lot of cyclists have sworn off running since they consider riding a bike a more intense form of cardio.






lol
Title: Re: Ditching Weights = Rejuvenation
Post by: illwill on April 24, 2013, 07:49:03 AM
i have numerously brought up the guy in these types of discussion so much that ross should write me a check

never gymless is a must have


I just went to his site and purchased his ebook versions even though I already own his paperbacks.   Only $12 per ebook so wth
Title: Re: Ditching Weights = Rejuvenation
Post by: The_Hammer on April 24, 2013, 08:13:12 AM
I did for a while now, I only do bodyweight stuff for my upper body, the basic chin ups, pull ups, dips, push ups, etc. I mainly do bodyweight stuff for legs too, but include some weighted work like db lunges or squats at least once a month.
To be honest I also look better than when I was training with weights, although it maybe simply because I stopped permabulking, lol.
One thing is for sure, when I was weight training I had a lot of nagging pains and small injuries all the time, tendonitis on my elbow, back pain, etc. and they all disappeared once I made the transition to bodyweight training, specially the tendonitis, I had it for a whole year and it wouldn't go away, until I stopped lifting weights and boom a few weeks later its gone.  

Same here, I had tendinitis in my left shoulder and my elbows were fucked.

I was always very conscience of my form and never went too heavy either, but still it was always some nagging injury or soreness.  Also, my muscles were always tight, even with stretching.

Now there's no injuries and my joints feel rejuvenated. 

I'm no fighter, but I've always loved to hit the bags and shadow box.  I could barely throw any left handed punches at one point because of the tendinitis in my left shoulder.

I think weight training is good, but anyone who has similar nagging injuries, despite doing everything right in the weight room, should consider the transition because it might help.

If you're natural I don't think you'll lose much muscle.
Title: Re: Ditching Weights = Rejuvenation
Post by: The_Hammer on April 24, 2013, 08:23:41 AM
true but to get sronger u have to lifts

and manny pacquiacu lifts moronr

From what I understand he doesn't in a traditional sense.  He may use some light weights in his S&C, but he doesn't do a bodybuilding type workout.


Title: Re: Ditching Weights = Rejuvenation
Post by: dustin on April 24, 2013, 10:20:59 AM
After 5 years of heavy training I don't think you really need to go too insane in the gym. Once your have some solid skeletal muscle built up, you just need to stimulate the muscle in the gym. I don't get as sore and I don't train with nearly as heavy weights. My workouts are mostly cardio and basically a glorified pump workout. Doing lots of skipping too. Used to box for a few years in high school and got super good with the skipping. Really blows the calves up nicely. 8)
Title: Re: Ditching Weights = Rejuvenation
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on April 24, 2013, 10:51:42 AM
The best workouts I ever had were after a 4 month break, went back to the gym and was lifting better and stronger, felt energized then three weeks into it I got nailed real bad with a flu that fucked it all up.  I wonder if my immune system was still on break.
Title: Re: Ditching Weights = Rejuvenation
Post by: arce1988 on April 24, 2013, 12:30:14 PM
  As in I know a lot of people from Wild Card. That was my main Boxing Gym. I always took my people there to spar real boxers. MMA people can get it twisted, and think that because they do well with boxing in mma, that they will do well in a ring with pure boxers. Big wake up call. To get good, you need to go and train with the best in every area.