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Crash and burn, man...that thing just stopped in mid-air
http://jalopnik.com/deadly-afghan-plane-crash-caught-by-dash-cam-in-this-ho-485974117 (http://jalopnik.com/deadly-afghan-plane-crash-caught-by-dash-cam-in-this-ho-485974117)
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Ima take a wild guess and say no survivors
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well planes come and go, as they say
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was this still part of George Bush's SHOCK AND AWE ???
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damn
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And the dude just stays quiet...?..... at least til his dog yelps
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Terroist attack.
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Ima take a wild guess and say no survivors
Hmmm man...there were only 8 on board...
Man, I wouldn't wish that feeling on anybody, that feeling of "I am going to di...."
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Hmmm man...there were only 8 on board...
Man, I wouldn't wish that feeling on anybody, that feeling of "I am going to di...."
scary shit SUN!
when ever i fly and get bad turbulence and the plane drops a few feet down, man that shit is freaky scary
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shifting Cargo load is possible cause......damn, I'm sure that Plane became Tail Heavy while ascending. someone clearly did not secure these heavy ass load properly......this same shit happened to a 777 FedEx Cargo plane several years ago where two racks rolled to the back of the plane while climbing and the plane went down and crashed. luckily, both Pilots survived
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Crash and burn, man...that thing just stopped in mid-air
http://jalopnik.com/deadly-afghan-plane-crash-caught-by-dash-cam-in-this-ho-485974117 (http://jalopnik.com/deadly-afghan-plane-crash-caught-by-dash-cam-in-this-ho-485974117)
Just got off a crazy, bumpy ride from SLC. the pilot must have been drunk. people were exiting in SAN saying, that was their last flight. flying in the USA is crazy enough, but i wouldn't touch a third world airliner, carrier, cargo plane or any of that jazz, esp in Africa, Mid-East, China, Russian and a couple of other shit holes.
Odds in the USA are something like you'd need to take a flight everyday for 175-200 years to get caught in a crash, and the Odds still favor you surviving.
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Terroist attack.
I can guarantee you that there was more plane debris in that field from one plane alone than the entire morning of September 11, 2001, and we can combine flight 93 that went down in Shanksville and flight 77 that hit the Pentagon.
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HO-LEE-SHIT.
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Just got off a crazy, bumpy ride from SLC. the pilot must have been drunk. people were exiting in SAN saying, that was their last flight. flying in the USA is crazy enough, but i wouldn't touch a third world airliner, carrier, cargo plane or any of that jazz, esp in Africa, Mid-East, China, Russian and a couple of other shit holes.
Odds in the USA are something like you'd need to take a flight everyday for 175-200 years to get caught in a cruise, and the Odds still favor you surviving.
Exactly. When I flew to Costa Rica that was scary shit, they only had one runway and to take off they had to back the plane up it was weird in reverse for like a mile just saying I couldn't imagine flying China Airlines.
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scary shit SUN!
when ever i fly and get bad turbulence and the plane drops a few feet down, man that shit is freaky scary
you get that pit in your stomach...
After seeing the Final Destination movies, I don't even want to ride a roller coaster. The lack of control when you are on one, that is crazy.
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most US pilots said that flying toward Colorado and Denver area encounters the most turbulences at some Altitude.....it's a good thing that Turbulences alone cannot bring an airplane down.....every week, an airplane would drop off the sky
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Just got off a crazy, bumpy ride from SLC. the pilot must have been drunk. people were exiting in SAN saying, that was their last flight. flying in the USA is crazy enough, but i wouldn't touch a third world airliner, carrier, cargo plane or any of that jazz, esp in Africa, Mid-East, China, Russian and a couple of other shit holes.
Odds in the USA are something like you'd need to take a flight everyday for 175-200 years to get caught in a crash, and the Odds still favor you surviving.
kinda like that old as 1970's private jet , flown by 78yr old pilot that killed mexican singer jenni Rivera
old fart took off about 2am in the morning
im 34 and i cant recall the last time i was up at 2am without yawning at the bar asking my GF to ask the bartender for the tab
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"That was the worst landing in the history of this airport.. . but some of us are damn proud of you."
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That was wild. Imagine being in that plane when it just drops like that. That must have been horrible but death was quick I am sure.
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unreal...crazy man. 7 people died, i read on CNN this morning.
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"That was the worst landing in the history of this airport.. . but some of us are damn proud of you."
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That plane had a meltdown, can happen to any of us
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Looks like the work of special forces to eliminate terrorist
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Flight Attendants are known Whores
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Flight Attendants are known Whores
Yea but I still love them most are hot and not fat asses.
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Crazy!!! That monster looked like it practically stalled.
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I HATE FLYING!
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Crazy!!! That monster looked like it practically stalled.
Tower controller's stuff of nightmares.
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I HATE FLYING!
I DON'T TRUST THE 747s.
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they can fly planes into buildings, but can take off ??? ???
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I've become rather desensitized to this kind of stuff since 911. After seeing jet planes full of people fly into buildings on live TV on Sept 11, 2001, this kind of stuff barely phases me anymore. Sad but true.
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I work in logistics for the DoD. I have three friends stationed out there, one of which who just was moved from the tent city a few hundreds yards shy of where that 747 crashed at. The civilian contractors are supposed to take the load plans we give them and assemble the load ACCORDING TO THE GIVEN LOAD PLAN. More times than some, they will tell us to fuck off and they will load the aircraft as they feel. You can get away with that on the 74's because the allowable cabin load is incredibly high.
Now for a possible reason of crash...one of the first avation reports stated that the crew(during take off) mentioned something about load/cargo shift. And there were several armored vehicles on board that weigh up to 30,000lbs. If those vehicles shifted to the aft of the plane during takeoff(and those guys abuse the hell out of birds on takeoffs) then that would explain the aircraft getting stuck at nearly an 80deg angle, leaving it without enough thrust to recover.
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If those vehicles shifted to the aft of the plane during takeoff(and those guys abuse the hell out of birds on takeoffs) then that would explain the aircraft getting stuck at nearly an 80deg angle, leaving it without enough thrust to recover.
Shifting weight wouldn't affect thrust, but it would change angle of attack of the aircraft, affecting lift. The loadmaster is the person responsible for securing the cargo. I wonder what the hell happened causing the load to shift, assuming that's the actual cause of the accident.
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Shifting weight wouldn't affect thrust, but it would change angle of attack of the aircraft, effecting lift. The loadmaster is the person responsible for securing the cargo. I wonder what the hell happened causing the load to shift, assuming that's the actual cause of the accident.
Even watching the video this seems like the most plausible reason for this. Those cargo pilots aren't rookies. This is a straight up accident, most likely of human error outside of the cockpit. When I was watching it the first time all I could think was "holy crap I haven't seen a 747 that nose up EVER". And right off of take off? Jeez, disaster. You can see the thing stall. That low? Good night. Even before the plane started the final descent I'm sure the pilots knew they were done.
Reminds me of this video of a B-52 crash in 1994:
Complete and utterly the pilot's fault, just similar looking. In better quality versions of this you can see the co-pilot eject, but the poor guy LANDS in the fireball. Before they crashed the co-pilot was recorded as saying "You've killed us you asshole." Video is 2:47 long, but the crash happens around the 1:30 mark.
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Even watching the video this seems like the most plausible reason for this. Those cargo pilots aren't rookies. This is a straight up accident, most likely of human error outside of the cockpit. When I was watching it the first time all I could think was "holy crap I haven't seen a 747 that nose up EVER". And right off of take off? Jeez, disaster. You can see the thing stall. That low? Good night. Even before the plane started the final descent I'm sure the pilots knew they were done.
Reminds me of this video of a B052 crash in 1994:
Complete and utterly the pilot's fault, just similar looking. In better quality versions of this you can see the co-pilot eject, but the poor guy LANDS in the fireball. Before they crashed the co-pilot was recorded as saying "You've killed us you asshole." Video is 2:47 long, but the crash happens around the 1:30 mark.
Imagine that feeling, the few secs before you hit...you know that there is NO CHANCE for survival.
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Fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkk
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Shifting weight wouldn't affect thrust, but it would change angle of attack of the aircraft, effecting lift. The loadmaster is the person responsible for securing the cargo. I wonder what the hell happened causing the load to shift, assuming that's the actual cause of the accident.
As you already know we'll have to wait for the investigation to truly tell what happened...But just look at this pic. It isn't a pic of the actual load, but another one similar. AMC owned aircraft(95% of AF cargo planes) use chains and devices to secure cargo requiring more than 10,000lbs of lateral, vertical, fwd, and aft restraint. The commercial guys use borderline truck straps. :-\
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Crash and burn, man...that thing just stopped in mid-air
http://jalopnik.com/deadly-afghan-plane-crash-caught-by-dash-cam-in-this-ho-485974117 (http://jalopnik.com/deadly-afghan-plane-crash-caught-by-dash-cam-in-this-ho-485974117)
Complete stall and the nose was up....prob the cargo shifted to the back during takeoff
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Damn
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maybe they should start flying the airbus A380 cargo version instead now.....the best Airplane on the Block
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/nov/05/qantas-engine-failure-airliner-safety
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maybe they should start flying the airbus A380 cargo version instead now.....the best Airplane on the Block
...and how many runways in the world can handle it? Cargo planes go all over the place. The A380 is doing fairly specific routes, hence why the airports it was planning to operate at had to re-do runways or build new ones.
There are reasons why this "best" plane aren't more prevalent, even excluding the price tag. Even in the world of air traffic you have to apply additional separation between it and other aircraft due to the amount of wake turbulence the thing puts off.
It is still stupidly cool to see a plane that obnoxiously large though.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/nov/05/qantas-engine-failure-airliner-safety
Rolls Royce made those engines and they made modification and corrected those Problems.....several A380 were Grounded when these cases started coming up about these engines Crapping out in mid-flight....well, that chart shows the 737 and MD80 killed more people than anyone else
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Good info guys thanks
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Ima take a wild guess and say no survivors
Sadly no survivors :'(
I'd like to see Emergency eject seats
Special fire retardant clothing
and crash proof safety seats like in F1
Could have been life savers.
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...and how many runways in the world can handle it? Cargo planes go all over the place. The A380 is doing fairly specific routes, hence why the airports it was planning to operate at had to re-do runways or build new ones.
There are reasons why this "best" plane aren't more prevalent, even excluding the price tag. Even in the world of air traffic you have to apply additional separation between it and other aircraft due to the amount of wake turbulence the thing puts off.
It is still stupidly cool to see a plane that obnoxiously large though.
Most customers of these A380s are not US based, Obviously.....Singapore, lufthansa and Quatas now owns the most of these A380s with more orders on the way......I've seen one of these A380 landing last december at Dulles Airport in Virginia and that's a Huge motherfckng airplane. the cheer size gives me the chills......Dulles has a runway that's 3 miles long. that's more than enough for these wide body Jets, but I agree that most airport in the US don't have enough space to accomodate A380s....JFK airport has a special terminal for this Airbus, San francisco airport Miami international. just to name a few
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Ugh I couldn't imagine what it would of been like on that plane
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I've become rather desensitized to this kind of stuff since 911. After seeing jet planes full of people fly into buildings on live TV on Sept 11, 2001, this kind of stuff barely phases me anymore. Sad but true.
STFU. "Desensitized"? This shit is like watching a movie, and devoid of people dying, i'd say it's pretty damn fucking cool to watch.
Now go watch the plethora of GORE found on the internet, and tell me if you'll ever "desensitize".
What a douche you are.
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this was a still Photo taking from that B-52 Bomber that crashed from the video above......they said the Pilot was a jerk and a reckless man who had violated several safety guidelines and was never punished. unfortunately, he took 3 lives with him that day
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most US pilots said that flying toward Colorado and Denver area encounters the most turbulences at some Altitude.....it's a good thing that Turbulences alone cannot bring an airplane down.....every week, an airplane would drop off the sky
Actually REALLY bad turbulence can literally tear a plane into shreds! But that is a VERY VERY VERY rare occurrence considering the planes are tested to death in wind tunnels, nevertheless it has happened.
I've flown well over a million miles from China to Argentina and tons of places in between, yet I still find take off to be a very uncomfortable feeling... Statistically its the safest mode of transportation and the chances of something like that video happening to you are slim to none, but when you are in that aluminum tube 30,000 feet up in the air, its hard to think logically and not let your emotions get in the way. I just try to get my mind off the flight, always have a few movies on my tablet to keep me busy the entire trip.
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this was a still Photo taking from that B-52 Bomber that crashed from the video above......they said the Pilot was a jerk and a reckless man who had violated several safety guidelines and was never punished. unfortunately, he took 3 lives with him that day
This is a great photo of a horrible event. The pilot was well known for hot dogging it and generally being a dick. He had lots of official complaints on file too. You can see the co-pilot ejecting pretty clearly from that photo too.
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This is a great photo of a horrible event. The pilot was well known for hot dogging it and generally being a dick. He had lots of official complaints on file too. You can see the co-pilot ejecting pretty clearly from that photo too.
Did he survive from that height?
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they can fly planes into buildings, but can take off ??? ???
correct me if i am wrong, but they were americans...
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That'll buff out.
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Even watching the video this seems like the most plausible reason for this. Those cargo pilots aren't rookies. This is a straight up accident, most likely of human error outside of the cockpit. When I was watching it the first time all I could think was "holy crap I haven't seen a 747 that nose up EVER". And right off of take off? Jeez, disaster. You can see the thing stall. That low? Good night. Even before the plane started the final descent I'm sure the pilots knew they were done.
Reminds me of this video of a B-52 crash in 1994:
Complete and utterly the pilot's fault, just similar looking. In better quality versions of this you can see the co-pilot eject, but the poor guy LANDS in the fireball. Before they crashed the co-pilot was recorded as saying "You've killed us you asshole." Video is 2:47 long, but the crash happens around the 1:30 mark.
That would be incredible hearing the copilot say that on the recording!!! Wow.
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STFU. "Desensitized"? This shit is like watching a movie, and devoid of people dying, i'd say it's pretty damn fucking cool to watch.
Now go watch the plethora of GORE found on the internet, and tell me if you'll ever "desensitize".
What a douche you are.
How about you pour a tall glass of STFU, you transsexual-loving goof!
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That would be incredible hearing the copilot say that on the recording!!! Wow.
It was recorded.
Did he survive from that height?
No, he landed in the fireball of the explosion. :(
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It was recorded.
No, he landed in the fireball of the explosion. :(
Awful... what a bummer for them.
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How about you pour a tall glass of STFU, you transsexual-loving goof!
Suck my left tit, pussy.
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this was a still Photo taking from that B-52 Bomber that crashed from the video above......they said the Pilot was a jerk and a reckless man who had violated several safety guidelines and was never punished. unfortunately, he took 3 lives with him that day
A true Getbigger...
I know a girl who did a report on him and his antics. He also was a hardcore male chauvinist/womanizer....wish I could've been in during those days. 8)
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I have made the mistake of watching every season and every episode of Air Crash Investigations, I am glad I don't have a need to fly. I don't care for statistics, it has to happen to somebody and dying in a plane that falls out of the sky from thousands of feet is a shitty way to go. JMO
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scary shit SUN!
when ever i fly and get bad turbulence and the plane drops a few feet down, man that shit is freaky scary
That's why I will only fly with Xanax. I can't stand planes.
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That's why I will only fly with Xanax. I can't stand planes.
I remember as a kid, boarding a plane and seeing the engines up close as I was boarding from the Bahamas. And I wondered, "what if someone's head got sucked into there?" Yrs later I saw the vids where workers on Carriers have been sucked into engines head first...
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this was a still Photo taking from that B-52 Bomber that crashed from the video above......they said the Pilot was a jerk and a reckless man who had violated several safety guidelines and was never punished. unfortunately, he took 3 lives with him that day
There were fire trucks on the field, were they expecting that thing to crash? Fucking crazy, I shouldn't even have opened this thread, now I'll be that much worse the next time I fly.
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One of the men who died in that 747 crash just got married 2 weeks ago.
http://www.freep.com/article/20130430/NEWS06/304300124/plane-crash-Afghanistan-national-airlines-Brad-Hasler-Jamie-Brokaw (http://www.freep.com/article/20130430/NEWS06/304300124/plane-crash-Afghanistan-national-airlines-Brad-Hasler-Jamie-Brokaw)
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Did he survive from that height?
they said he ejected too late and fell back into the fireball. he died as well
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I have made the mistake of watching every season and every episode of Air Crash Investigations, I am glad I don't have a need to fly. I don't care for statistics, it has to happen to somebody and dying in a plane that falls out of the sky from thousands of feet is a shitty way to go. JMO
that's my favorite show on the Smithsonian channel....the new season started last month....if you're afraid to fly, this show will scare the shit out of you.....lol......they have several past episodes posted on youtube.....the one episode where that American airlines from JFK bound to the Dominican republic crashed in a new York neighborhood 2 minutes after take-off was chillin.....they found out later it was the fucking Pilot error who caused the crash, Not turbulence as previously thought.....the fucker exert too much force on the rudder and it broke a huge chunk of the tail apart and the plane took a nose dive into the ground killing 265 souls
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I go to st Maarten every year, and while I've never dealt with an overly turbulent flight, the runway there is a little hairy. I couldn't imagine you fuckers that come from Europe in those big airbuses and 747's.
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One of the men who died in that 747 crash just got married 2 weeks ago.
http://www.freep.com/article/20130430/NEWS06/304300124/plane-crash-Afghanistan-national-airlines-Brad-Hasler-Jamie-Brokaw (http://www.freep.com/article/20130430/NEWS06/304300124/plane-crash-Afghanistan-national-airlines-Brad-Hasler-Jamie-Brokaw)
that's so fucking sad.....damn
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that's so fucking sad.....damn
I'm sure there is a lot of married men who would jokingly say he's lucky to have spared himself from the long drawn out pain and agony of marriage.
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this was a still Photo taking from that B-52 Bomber that crashed from the video above......they said the Pilot was a jerk and a reckless man who had violated several safety guidelines and was never punished. unfortunately, he took 3 lives with him that day
??? ???
(http://counterclockwisecomedy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Maverick-Top-Gun.jpg)
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My balls. Look at them. Thanks Nails. ;D
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Even watching the video this seems like the most plausible reason for this. Those cargo pilots aren't rookies. This is a straight up accident, most likely of human error outside of the cockpit. When I was watching it the first time all I could think was "holy crap I haven't seen a 747 that nose up EVER". And right off of take off? Jeez, disaster. You can see the thing stall. That low? Good night. Even before the plane started the final descent I'm sure the pilots knew they were done.
Reminds me of this video of a B-52 crash in 1994:
Complete and utterly the pilot's fault, just similar looking. In better quality versions of this you can see the co-pilot eject, but the poor guy LANDS in the fireball. Before they crashed the co-pilot was recorded as saying "You've killed us you asshole." Video is 2:47 long, but the crash happens around the 1:30 mark.
Do you have a link to the recording where this was said?
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??? ???
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Twink...nm
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Do you have a link to the recording where this was said?
I heard it years ago while I was still active duty. I'd be very surprised if it popped up on the internet, but I'm sure it is out there some where.
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I told the pilots -- AND THE LOADMASTERS -- to firmly secure my order of barbell plates in the back of the plane before delivery to my home gym.
Obviously, they did not. Now my augmentation to the 45lb plates in my home gym will have to wait.