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Title: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: nzmusclemonster on May 08, 2013, 08:00:57 PM
Been downhill ever since.

All these lil waynes and jons and leroys and jamal wannabees.



Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: cephissus on May 08, 2013, 08:03:57 PM
great album

Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: LanceD on May 08, 2013, 08:26:10 PM
Do you know how much money Dre made with Beats headphones???
Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: 240 is Back on May 08, 2013, 09:07:09 PM
i have to agree with you.   Rappers used to pride themselves in intensity and ambition.  Now it's all about who is the biggest fckup.

also the image they sold back then cannot be done today.  We see these guys tweeting and sharing and realize they're normal idiots like everyone else.  Back then, rap (like most styles of music) could markets its stars as living some aloof, amazing lifestyle.  Now we see them tweeting as they take shits.
Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 09, 2013, 12:04:37 AM
The best rap album ever.
Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: BikiniSlut on May 09, 2013, 12:23:36 AM
I'm going to have to agree. I wonder if rap is slowly dying out. It is to me.

And Dre was good but I am going to have to say that Snoop Dog is master.
Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: G_Thang on May 09, 2013, 12:41:55 AM
Been downhill ever since.

All these lil waynes and jons and leroys and jamal wannabees.






What's the best online service to meets Ferns?  You can PM, if you don't want all the douches on the board to know.

As far as rao goes, I really don't listen to it.   
Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on May 09, 2013, 01:28:10 AM
Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: falco on May 09, 2013, 02:16:42 AM
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Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: OTHstrong on May 09, 2013, 02:28:08 AM
Been downhill ever since.

All these lil waynes and jons and leroys and jamal wannabees.




wow, I actually agree with you  ;)
Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: whitewidow on May 09, 2013, 03:03:00 AM
The best rap album ever.


Yep! DR Dre's "The Chronic" Album changed the whole rap game! It introduced one of raps best ever Snoop Dogg and slowed rap down into the chill smoking weed era instead of the fast paced crack rap era. The chronic was just a chill album you could relax too and just "just chill to the next episode"
Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: whitewidow on May 09, 2013, 03:15:59 AM


This has to be tied with Dr. Dre's "The Chronic " album! Snoop Doggs first album Doggystyle was the most anticipated rap album I can remember .Between Dr.Dre's "The Chronic" album and snoop dogg's Doggystyle that was the best 28$ I ever spent. just 2 CD's full of cutts! I love fuck wit Dre Day! where Dre disses on Eazy E! Eazy got him back with " Real Muthafuckin G's" but "fuck wit dre day " was way better -IMO the beat was chill and snoop dogg rips 2 fat versus! One of the best rap lines by snoop on that song" well heres a little Jimmy joke about your momma that you might not like, I heard she was a Frisco Dyke" I love Eazy as well but Dre and Snoop were on a diffrent level. I wish Snoop didn't pump out some of the garbage he did after his first few albums. I don't think Dre or snoop were ever studio gansters. Snoop did time for selling crack and his bodygaurd did kill somebody flashing gang signs and a gun at him. Dre did plenty of time in jail for diffrent shit that is why Eazy E got him to work for basically nothing,they were favors for Eazy constantly bailing Dre out. At one time Eazy and Dre really were best friends! Money tore them apart! But when eazy got sick everything was forgotten. Dre loved Eazy at heart,vice versa.
Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: Marine on May 09, 2013, 03:40:47 AM
Do you know how much money Dre made with Beats headphones???

enough to buy the army of a small country.
Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: PJim on May 09, 2013, 04:02:00 AM
Wu-Tang Forever
Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: dj181 on May 09, 2013, 04:19:58 AM
snoop FTMFW

Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: Henda on May 09, 2013, 08:09:08 AM
Chronic 2001 was the first rap cd i owned. Still keep a copy in my work van today. Wont be topped imho
Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: BigCyp on May 09, 2013, 08:12:36 AM
1. Chronic

2001, and a eminem's first 2 albums were also great, aswell as some ruff ryders and DMX's early albums.

Since then, absolute gayness.
Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: ukjeff on May 09, 2013, 08:18:44 AM
Rap music was invented to launder money.
Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 09, 2013, 08:23:57 AM
1. The Chronic
2. Tupac
3. Big Poppa


Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on May 09, 2013, 08:24:39 AM
Best SONG EVER!

Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: JediTerminator on May 09, 2013, 08:27:15 AM
Wu-Tang Forever (double album) is where it peaks for me. They had a message, and diverse lyrics.
Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on May 09, 2013, 08:31:45 AM
Lots of youngins in this thread.

Those that know good rap will go back a decade to Public Enemy and Run DMC.  Now that was music
Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 09, 2013, 08:34:33 AM
Lots of youngins in this thread.

Those that know good rap will go back a decade to Public Enemy and Run DMC.  Now that was music
I forgot DMC, quality rap.
Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on May 09, 2013, 09:08:08 AM
Let's not forget LL Cool J oreo cookies
Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 09, 2013, 10:35:55 AM
LL ruling.
Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: Seven Copper Coins on May 09, 2013, 11:25:15 AM
I forgot DMC, quality rap.


I hear Run-DMC now and i cringe. It's so corny.  "it's tricky"......hahahahaaaaaa  ;D

Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on May 09, 2013, 11:39:39 AM
LL ruling.


can't forget this gem

Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: The_Punisher on May 09, 2013, 11:42:33 AM
lol....that LL video was one of my favorite.....respect for Kool J for keeping his game going after 26yrs in Hip-hop......
Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on May 09, 2013, 11:47:47 AM
lol....that LL video was one of my favorite.....respect for Kool J for keeping his game going after 26yrs in Hip-hop......

Dude that song made chicks wet in an instant.  We'd be alone and I'd put this on and it was instant sex.  I smashed so many chicks to it.

I remember this was when LL was off the scene for a while, took a few cycles and appeared shirtless and he was talking about his clean eating and hard workouts.  lol
Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 09, 2013, 11:51:25 AM
 8)Bringing in some hoes.
Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: OTHstrong on May 10, 2013, 02:30:05 AM
PARIS--the devil made me do it,  8)

Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on May 10, 2013, 03:01:57 AM
Do you know how much money Dre made with Beats headphones???

a lot!
Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: OTHstrong on May 10, 2013, 03:06:59 AM
No one makes lyrics like this anymore, wtf, how do these guys come up with this shit, this song is insane.


Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: whitewidow on May 10, 2013, 04:44:37 AM
I have seen pretty much every big rap artist/group and honestly the best concert I saw was when Chef Raekwon came to Portland right after he dropped immobularity and just dropped the livest show you ever saw! He let us have it raw! That was the best live performance I have ever seen and like I said I have seen almost all of the best! It was a small 2,000 person crowd and we all got our money's worth plus much more!
Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: 240 is Back on May 10, 2013, 04:46:27 AM
I'm happy to see there aren't a bunch of 20 year old getbiggers jumping in saying Little Wayne is the greatest rapper, etc. 

Seems even the younger music fans often realize the transparency and weakness of today's music.   It's probably the same with rock... nobody jumping around to say the 2012 rock music scene was just so incredible.  It's rehashed garbage, trying to match pearl jam, aero, etc.
Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: JasonH on May 10, 2013, 04:48:40 AM
I'm going to have to say best rap album for me was always Liquid Swords by GZA. Not a bad track on there. Also The Swarm by the Wu-Tang Killa Bees a close second.
Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: The_Punisher on May 10, 2013, 05:00:03 AM
Dude that song made chicks wet in an instant.  We'd be alone and I'd put this on and it was instant sex.  I smashed so many chicks to it.

I remember this was when LL was off the scene for a while, took a few cycles and appeared shirtless and he was talking about his clean eating and hard workouts.  lol


LOL......LL lied like shit. he never admit he was on the juice
Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on May 10, 2013, 05:03:42 AM
I'm happy to see there aren't a bunch of 20 year old getbiggers jumping in saying Little Wayne is the greatest rapper, etc. 

Seems even the younger music fans often realize the transparency and weakness of today's music.   It's probably the same with rock... nobody jumping around to say the 2012 rock music scene was just so incredible.  It's rehashed garbage, trying to match pearl jam, aero, etc.

Lil Wayne sucks.
Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: Parker on May 10, 2013, 05:25:45 AM
lol....that LL video was one of my favorite.....respect for Kool J for keeping his game going after 26yrs in Hip-hop......
interesting thing about that song was that the woman who rapped in that wasnt the same in the vid. The real chick was a "big" or thick girl, and didnt fit the image that LL/and the director wanted for that vid.

I have to say, hip hop died, when everybody started that "Sing Rapping", which pretty much started with Nelly.
Wu, kept the lyricism, and Dre had that slick production.
One could even say that Dre helped with the demise of hip-hop by his very slick production. Hip Hop lost its "street" value, and became more corporate---urban corporate if you will.
Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: Childish///AMG on May 10, 2013, 06:17:50 AM
No, "Nas" Illmatic, definately a great album 8)
Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: HockeyFightFan on May 10, 2013, 08:49:38 AM
The best rap album ever.


:/End Thread....
Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: Spike on May 10, 2013, 08:52:19 AM
Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: OTHstrong on May 10, 2013, 11:12:22 AM
 :D



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Post by: Borracho on May 10, 2013, 12:49:32 PM


That's rap.

Right up there with biggie and pac!
Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: BILL ANVIL on May 10, 2013, 12:56:36 PM
correction, it died in 2001. "rap" has been hijacked by probably the cia, to be used to influence young minorities.
Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: PJim on May 10, 2013, 05:40:37 PM
I'm going to have to say best rap album for me was always Liquid Swords by GZA. Not a bad track on there. Also The Swarm by the Wu-Tang Killa Bees a close second.
Liquid Swords is one of the best regardless of genre
Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: whitewidow on May 11, 2013, 01:41:44 AM
:/End Thread....

Agreed no need to argue/ Best Rap CD of all time. This CD changed the whole rap game.This CD never gets old to me! Dr. Dre has nothing more to prove to me! he dropped the best rap album of all time and Dre knows it!
Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: steamboatwillie on May 11, 2013, 05:57:50 AM
Ok I'll be the first to catch hell, but you can't make a best rapper list without Jay-Z.  I know he borrows a line here or there, but he's been consistently at the top for like 15 years now. 

Resonable Doubt was amazing
Vol. 1 not so much
Vol. 2 was great
Vol. 3 was just as good
The Dynasty Roc-la-familia was great
The Blueprint was a game changer...hit after hit
Best of Both Worlds was cool as hell
Blueprint 2 was a big drop off...couple decent tracks
Black Album was almost as good as The Blueprint
and Blueprint 3 was epic as well.

I know I left out a few that werent so hot....but how can you deny anyone who's put THAT much quality out there.  Most artist struggle to put out one entire album thats hot...he does it every couple years.

Also, I was at his first concert after 9/11 and he just walked out on stage with a mic...no hype or anything and just started freestyling about what had happened for what felt like 10 minutes....I wish I could go back in time, buy a camcorder,  and video it...I had chills
Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: Parker on May 11, 2013, 06:53:56 AM
The future of rap? Kendrick Lamar
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Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: King Shizzo on May 11, 2013, 07:15:04 AM
The greatest era of rap was from about '94 to '2000 (give or take a year on both ends) Now it almost complete shit. I just listen for the occasional hot "club track" the talent pool is god awful now.
Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: OTHstrong on May 11, 2013, 08:17:19 AM
siiiiiick


Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: whitewidow on May 11, 2013, 06:09:44 PM
siiiiiick




I'm Tellin you. Chef Raekwon live was the best show I ever saw. I have seen pretty much everybody and nobody brought the show like chef raekwon!
Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: Marine on May 12, 2013, 12:00:29 AM
rap did not peak in 2001

u just got old

Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: OTHstrong on May 12, 2013, 11:59:12 AM
I'm Tellin you. Chef Raekwon live was the best show I ever saw. I have seen pretty much everybody and nobody brought the show like chef raekwon!
Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: 240 is Back on May 12, 2013, 12:02:08 PM
I'm going to have to say best rap album for me was always Liquid Swords by GZA. Not a bad track on there. Also The Swarm by the Wu-Tang Killa Bees a close second.

GZA was just incredible  The Genius.
Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: The True Adonis on May 12, 2013, 01:44:54 PM
Best SONG EVER!


Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: cswol on May 12, 2013, 04:20:45 PM
rap aka hiphop, higher infinite power healing our people, and giving a voice to the voiceless died in 1990, with the rise of the group public enemy which had a strong message in their lyrics, in 1989 the jewish men of the illuminati who controlled the music business, solely formed the rap group N.W.A. to stabilize and neutralize the messages and power of the rap group public enemy and shift the whole paradigm of the music industry to become centered around mindless nonsensical garbage...........heres the link......... 
Title: Re: Rap peaked at Dre 2001
Post by: cswol on May 12, 2013, 04:33:47 PM
heres the whole interview where he reveals the reasons for the formation of NWA and the reasons why
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on May 12, 2013, 05:02:06 PM
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Post by: BILL ANVIL on May 13, 2013, 12:18:09 PM
Spice 1 - Born to Die... most violent sociopathic song ever hands down.