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Title: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 20, 2013, 06:42:47 AM
WaPo: Justice spied on Fox reporter in 2010


posted at 8:01 am on May 20, 2013 by Ed Morrissey






Remember the White House war on Fox News in 2009?  By the fall of that year, it had collapsed from overreach; after attempting to block Fox from participating in pool coverage, the rest of the White House press corps revolted, forcing Anita Dunn and others into retreat.  Apparently, the Obama administration found a way to wage that war by other means.  The Washington Post reports that the Department of Justice spied on James Rosen, Fox’s Washington correspondent, in 2010:
 

When the Justice Department began investigating possible leaks of classified information about North Korea in 2009, investigators did more than obtain telephone records of a working journalist suspected of receiving the secret material.
 
They used security badge access records to track the reporter’s comings and goings from the State Department, according to a newly obtained court affidavit. They traced the timing of his calls with a State Department security adviser suspected of sharing the classified report. They obtained a search warrant for the reporter’s personal e-mails.
 
The case of Stephen Jin-Woo Kim, the government adviser, and James Rosen, the chief Washington correspondent for Fox News, bears striking similarities to a sweeping leaks investigation disclosed last week in which federal investigators obtained records over two months of more than 20 telephone lines assigned to the Associated Press.
 
While not as broad as the Associated Press dragnet of records, the Post emphasizes that this demonstrates the DoJ assault on the AP was not a singular event:
 

Court documents in the Kim case reveal how deeply investigators explored the private communications of a working journalist — and raise the question of how often journalists have been investigated as closely as Rosen was in 2010. The case also raises new concerns among critics of government secrecy about the possible stifling effect of these investigations on a critical element of press freedom: the exchange of information between reporters and their sources.
 
In the AP case, the Obama administration insisted that they were looking for the government leaker, not building a prosecution against the reporters.   With Rosen, though, the DoJ made him a target of their investigation:
 

In the documents, FBI agent Reginald Reyes described in detail how Kim and Rosen moved in and out of the State Department headquarters at 2201 C St. NW a few hours before the story was published on June 11, 2009. …
 
Reyes wrote that there was evidence Rosen had broken the law, “at the very least, either as an aider, abettor and/or co-conspirator.” That fact distinguishes his case from the probe of the AP, in which the news organization is not the likely target.
 
Using italics for emphasis, Reyes explained how Rosen allegedly used a “covert communications plan” and quoted from an e-mail exchange between Rosen and Kim that seems to describe a secret system for passing along information.
 
Get out of town! A reporter used a “covert communications plan” to get information from a source?  Heck, even I did that with the Adscam-Gomert inquiry information I got in 2005 (although not nearly as elaborate as Rosen’s, I must admit), and I seem to recall a couple of guys in Washington who did that in 1973-4 by meeting with a high-ranking FBI source in parking garages.  Basically, a “covert communications plan” could be anything except talking on cellphones in Starbucks about the information.
 
Had I seen this case last month, I’d have assumed that this had everything to do with the Obama team’s war on Fox News.  Now, after the AP scandal, I’m not sure that’s all that went behind this.  Eric Holder implied in his interview with NPR that spying on reporters has become routine in the Obama administration, so Rosen and Fox are probably not alone.  However, I doubt that Rosen’s employer had nothing to do with this pursuit.  Regardless, every reporter covering this administration has to wonder whether Big Brother Is Listening — or at least reading their e-mails and phone records.  And so does every potential source within the administration.
 
And that, of course, is the entire point of these intimidation tactics.
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 20, 2013, 07:15:05 AM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/may/20/obama-doj-james-rosen-criminality


Even liberal reporters are starting to wake up to this marxist communist thug in the WH
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 20, 2013, 07:27:48 AM
DOJ's Targeting Of Fox News Reporter James Rosen Met With Outrage


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A new article about how the Obama administration tracked the movements and correspondence of a Fox News reporter led to a fresh round of condemnation by journalists on Monday.

The Washington Post published an explosive story about the Justice Department's monitoring of James Rosen, a Fox News reporter based in Washington. Rosen allegedly spoke to Stephen Jin-Woo Kim, a State Department contractor, for a story about North Korea's nuclear program. The Justice Department charged Kim with violating the Espionage Act for his contact with Rosen.

Kim's case has already been condemned by critics of the White House's hyper-aggressive approach to leaks, but the details of the DOJ's tracking of Rosen have not been known until now. The Post's Ann E. Marimow laid out the intensity of that monitoring in her article:

The Justice Department used security badge access records to track the reporter’s comings and goings from the State Department, according to a newly obtained court affidavit. They traced the timing of his calls with a State Department security adviser suspected of sharing the classified report. They obtained a search warrant for the reporter’s personal emails.

That goes above and beyond what the Justice Department did when it monitored the Associated Press. There, it looked at phone records, not the actual contents of emails.

Perhaps more chilling, the Post reported that the Justice Department labeled Rosen a "co-conspirator" with Kim because he made an arrangement with him about how to get him information. It's not clear how different these arrangements, which the Post wrote involved things like code names, were from the elaborate arrangements that Bob Woodward made with Deep Throat. Journalists reacted with particular alarm to the notion that Rosen was an "abettor" simply because he pushed for a source to give him information:
 
There has long been evidence that some government prosecutors do not consider journalists to have heightened levels of protection. In January, for instance, lawyers prosecuting military whistleblower Bradley Manning said that, had he passed information to the New York Times instead of WikiLeaks, he would still be "aiding the enemy." The government has also tried to make the case in the past that WikiLeaks chief Julian Assange could be indicted as a co-conspirator with Manning for receiving his information.
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: 240 is Back on May 20, 2013, 07:42:16 AM
"No, no, we shouldn't impeach.   It's cool that obama has massive power and is breaking law on a daily basis.  We get to mock him on message boards."

- Republicans, 2013.




WTF, people?  Impeach already!
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 20, 2013, 07:44:45 AM
We should impeach the list of crimes committed by obama is longer than the tax code.

But if you think the GOP wants to be the face of the impeaching obama - aint going to happen - what needs to happen is a few brave democrats jump shit and speak openly about this marxist junta

"No, no, we shouldn't impeach.   It's cool that obama has massive power and is breaking law on a daily basis.  We get to mock him on message boards."

- Republicans, 2013.




WTF, people?  Impeach already!
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 20, 2013, 07:48:19 AM
Definition of hypocrite:
 
The liberals who praised Assange and Bradley Manning for exposing sensitive material, and fell for the "transparency" BS that Obama promised, that are here today condemning Rosen for reporting something sensitive.



Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 20, 2013, 07:51:37 AM
http://twitchy.com/2013/05/20/chilling-report-obamas-doj-spied-on-fox-news-james-rosen-criminalizes-reporting


Wow - the Obama Crime Syndicate is even worse than i imagined
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: 240 is Back on May 20, 2013, 07:58:45 AM
We should impeach the list of crimes committed by obama is longer than the tax code.

But if you think the GOP wants to be the face of the impeaching obama - aint going to happen - what needs to happen is a few brave democrats jump shit and speak openly about this marxist junta


wow... talk about a dickless lack of leadership.   They have the majority of House and the effing LAW on their side.  But they're spineless and won't move until weak shit libs betray their hero Obama?   Wow... I guess police should stop enforcing the law and just wait for criminals to turn each other in?

hahaahaha oh brother, 33, you just made me laugh out loud.  We are now waiting for Reid to spearhead the impeachment because, well, Rubio, Rand, Ryan, and all of the other brave, fearless patriots that love America don't have the balls to mutter the "I-word"?   LMFAO.
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 20, 2013, 08:05:19 AM
wow... talk about a dickless lack of leadership.   They have the majority of House and the effing LAW on their side.  But they're spineless and won't move until weak shit libs betray their hero Obama?   Wow... I guess police should stop enforcing the law and just wait for criminals to turn each other in?

hahaahaha oh brother, 33, you just made me laugh out loud.  We are now waiting for Reid to spearhead the impeachment because, well, Rubio, Rand, Ryan, and all of the other brave, fearless patriots that love America don't have the balls to mutter the "I-word"?   LMFAO.

I am being realistic here, not what i want to see. 

Obama is cancer on this nation
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 20, 2013, 08:05:55 AM
"No, no, we shouldn't impeach.   It's cool that obama has massive power and is breaking law on a daily basis.  We get to mock him on message boards."

- Republicans, 2013.





No shit.  Republicans are just scared shitless of Obama.  

GOP = Pussies.  
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 20, 2013, 08:43:10 AM
The Obama Administration’s Two-Front War on Fox

By  John Fund

May 20, 2013 9:50 AM



The Washington Post is reporting that the Justice Department took extraordinary steps to investigate Fox News reporter James Rosen for possible leaks of classified information about North Korea:”It used security badge access records to track the reporter’s comings and goings from the State Department, according to a newly obtained court affidavit. They traced the timing of his calls with a State Department security adviser suspected of sharing the classified report. They obtained a search warrant for the reporter’s personal e-mails.”

Context is everything. The very same month Justice’s probe into Rosen’s story began, the Obama administration’s war on Fox News began. As NRO’s Eliana Johnson has reported:


 In June of 2009, the president complained about a “certain cable network” devoted entirely to attacking his administration. Four months later, former White House communications director Anita Dunn in 2009 said of Fox, “We’re going to treat them the way we would treat an opponent,” adding, “We don’t need to pretend that this is the way that legitimate news organizations behave.” The administration went on to try to exclude Fox from the network pool that covers the White House, making a recent appointee — pay czar Kenneth Feinberg — available for interviews to every network but Fox. When the other networks refused to conduct the interview until Fox was included, the White House relented. But the verbal assault continued, with Obama telling Rolling Stone magazine in 2010 that the network represents a point of view that is “ultimately destructive for the long-term growth of a country that has a vibrant middle class and is competitive  in the world.”

The public war that the Obama administration waged against Fox News was ugly enough. Perhaps with the Washington Post story we are now seeing the tip of the iceberg regarding the administration’s private war against Fox News.  
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: 240 is Back on May 20, 2013, 08:44:27 AM
I am being realistic here, not what i want to see.  

Obama is cancer on this nation

and republicans are the highly trained doctors with a scalpel who won't touch the cancer patient until he gets out his own switchblade and tries to scrape off his own skin cancer and ends up in the ER bleeding.

And Americans are the family of the cancer patient begging the doctor to operate.  Doc won't because he doesn't want to be blamed if the surgery doesn't go well.  He'll operate in an emergency capacity, but cares more about his own reputation than the survival of, oh, his country!!!

so in this case, please, never ever tell us to vote for any of these dickless politicians who won't stand up and say "So, hey guys, ya think maybe impeachment might be an option, given all the lawbreaking?"   Please never tell us how Rand is awesome or Cruz is the future.  They're all scared of obama.  If they can't stand up to a kenyan lawbreaker like Obama, how in the world can we count on them to face down china, iran, NKorea?  

Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 20, 2013, 08:45:51 AM
and republicans are the highly trained doctors with a scalpel who won't touch the cancer patient until he gets out his own switchblade and tries to scrape off his own skin cancer and ends up in the ER bleeding.

And Americans are the family of the cancer patient begging the doctor to operate.  Doc won't because he doesn't want to be blamed if the surgery doesn't go well.  He'll operate in an emergency capacity, but cares more about his own reputation than the survival of, oh, his country!!!

so in this case, please, never ever tell us to vote for any of these dickless politicians who won't stand up and say "So, hey guys, ya think maybe impeachment might be an option, given all the lawbreaking?"   Please never tell us how Rand is awesome or Cruz is the future.  They're all scared of obama.  If they can't stand up to a kenyan lawbreaker like Obama, how in the world can we count on them to face down china, iran, NKorea?  




wHY DO YOU LET THE DEMOCRATS OFF THE HOOK ON THIS? 

I agree about the GOP, but why do you ignore the democraps kneepadding obama's crime spree?
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: 240 is Back on May 20, 2013, 08:50:22 AM

wHY DO YOU LET THE DEMOCRATS OFF THE HOOK ON THIS? 

I agree about the GOP, but why do you ignore the democraps kneepadding obama's crime spree?

I completely concede that all dems in power are dickless, pathetic spinless wimps that do whatever obama tells them.  ALl should be voted out of office.
However, I also stand by my assertion that IF/WHEN impeachment starts, they're all rats, and many will fold on him - they did it to clinton.

From minute one, you've been blaming reid, and now saying dems should spearhead it.  That's delusional to think any party would impeach the president from their own party. That just shows a very naive understanding of politics.  HIstorically, it is the opposing party that gets the ball rolling.  Then, of course, rats betray their leader.

But hey - if you want to tell us Rand paul and Cruz are bold, brave, and awesome leaders that don't fear obama, you do that.  but we know it's not true.

It's their DUTY to call for obama to be impeached.  Today lol.  Not next year.  Today.  Since they won't, I guess we can all have a circle jerk here about unbrella-gate.  Just please, remember in 2016, that when repubs actually had obama on the ropes with impeacheable crimes - they refused to even mutter the word
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 20, 2013, 08:51:30 AM
they are afraid on black riots in the cities since obama will incite this as a racial witchhunt



I completely concede that all dems in power are dickless, pathetic spinless wimps that do whatever obama tells them.  ALl should be voted out of office.
However, I also stand by my assertion that IF/WHEN impeachment starts, they're all rats, and many will fold on him - they did it to clinton.

From minute one, you've been blaming reid, and now saying dems should spearhead it.  That's delusional to think any party would impeach the president from their own party. That just shows a very naive understanding of politics.  HIstorically, it is the opposing party that gets the ball rolling.  Then, of course, rats betray their leader.

But hey - if you want to tell us Rand paul and Cruz are bold, brave, and awesome leaders that don't fear obama, you do that.  but we know it's not true.

It's their DUTY to call for obama to be impeached.  Today lol.  Not next year.  Today.  Since they won't, I guess we can all have a circle jerk here about unbrella-gate.  Just please, remember in 2016, that when repubs actually had obama on the ropes with impeacheable crimes - they refused to even mutter the word
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: 240 is Back on May 20, 2013, 08:53:26 AM
they are afraid on black riots in the cities since obama will incite this as a racial witchhunt


Rand and Cruz fear black riots?  Link?  Did you just come up with this?

Repubs won't do it because they're scared of lawbreakers? 

Were there riots when clinton was impeached?  What american cities burned?
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 20, 2013, 08:58:33 AM
The Impeachment Option
 Jason Chaffetz raises the prospect.

By

Robert Costa



Representative Jason Chaffetz, a Utah Republican, says President Barack Obama may face impeachment over his administration’s response to the Benghazi attack.

“They purposefully and willfully misled the American people, and that’s unacceptable,” Chaffetz tells me. “It’s part of a pattern of deception.”

Behind the scenes, he says, House Republicans are frustrated by the White House’s evasiveness, and the calls for impeachment will likely increase.


Chaffetz acknowledges that House speaker John Boehner is wary of moving too swiftly against the president, but the brash, 46-year-old conservative is tired of waiting for answers. He’s ready to issue subpoenas and schedule more hearings.

His chief concern is that the White House, which he says is staffed by “self-preservationists,” seems to be hiding documents related to the attack and the president’s decisions, in order to protect the administration from scrutiny.

“They’ve released 100 emails, but there are thousands of documents that we still need to see,” he says. “The truth gets colder as time goes on, so we need to stay vigilant.”

“Now, the speaker has more patience than I do,” Chaffetz says. “He has told me to be patient, that the truth will eventually surface. But I’m not a patient person, and if this administration makes us do this the hard way, that’s what we’ll do.”

Chaffetz’s tension with the White House has been building for months, ever since he took a fact-finding trip to Libya last October, less than a month after the terrorist attack. During that visit, he huddled with several U.S. diplomats, including Gregory Hicks, a former deputy chief of the Libya mission.

But the heavy-handed tactics of the president’s advisers, he complains, sullied his investigation from the start. He worries that allies of Obama and former secretary of state Hillary Clinton have inappropriately pressured his sources — and restricted his access. “They’ve obstructed me from doing my congressional duty,” he says. “When I went over there, a State Department babysitter intimidated me and many others.”

“The State Department had people watching my every move,” he recalls. “But even as they watched me like a hawk, I was able to see how ill-prepared the embassy was for an attack. There were walls that weren’t very tall, and trees that could be climbed. One of the walls was so low that some people were able to prop up a ladder to dump trash on our embassy’s grounds. I asked one of my guides why that was allowed, and he shook his head and said, ‘Well, I guess we just didn’t want to offend the neighbors.’”

But the worst part of the journey, Chaffetz says, was having State Department lawyer Jeremy Freeman along, shadowing him through every meeting. Hicks and other U.S. diplomats, he says, were effectively muzzled by his presence. “And at one point, Hicks had to leave a meeting, only to be chastised over the phone by Cheryl Mills, Hillary Clinton’s top adviser,” he says. “It was unsettling — to see, up close, the depths to which Secretary Clinton was willing to go to manipulate the process.”

Chaffetz says he has relayed these stories to his Republican colleagues, especially after Hicks testified before the House oversight committee earlier this month. Chaffetz says the conversations about his experiences have stirred unease, and he expects members to press the White House for details on how officials may have obstructed Congress.

“The White House likes to say that our questions are a political sideshow, but it seems like it was their politics that caused a lot of the problems,” Chaffetz says. “Hicks testified about being suppressed from saying much to me during my trip, so it’s not like we’re running roughshod.”

Over the weekend, White House communications director Dan Pfeiffer appeared on the Sunday talk shows and defended the administration. When asked about the editing of national-security talking points and the president’s conduct on the night of the attack, Pfeiffer argued that the administration was engaged and acted responsibility.

Chaffetz doesn’t buy it. “This is an administration embroiled in a scandal that they created,” he says. “It’s a cover-up. I’m not saying impeachment is the end game, but it’s a possibility, especially if they keep doing little to help us learn more.”

Look for Chaffetz, the chairman of the oversight committee’s subcommittee on national security, to lead the fight for accountability as the controversy — and talk of impeachment proceedings — escalates.

In the meantime, he’s trying to get back to Libya.

“Unless you go out there and kick the tires, you’ll never really get the proper perspective,” he says. “I’ve been kicking them for a while, but this is only the beginning. I’m going to spend months finding out the truth, and do whatever it takes.”

— Robert Costa is National Review’s Washington editor.
 
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: 240 is Back on May 20, 2013, 09:01:14 AM
The Impeachment Option
 Jason Chaffetz raises the prospect.

By

Robert Costa



Representative Jason Chaffetz, a Utah Republican, says President Barack Obama may face impeachment over his administration’s response to the Benghazi attack.

“They purposefully and willfully misled the American people, and that’s unacceptable,” Chaffetz tells me. “It’s part of a pattern of deception.”

Behind the scenes, he says, House Republicans are frustrated by the White House’s evasiveness, and the calls for impeachment will likely increase.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Chaffetz

Jason Chaffetz is an American hero!

Also hilarious:
Chaffetz appeared on the "Better Know A District" segment of The Colbert Report on 6 January 2009, where he was defeated by Stephen Colbert in leg wrestling.[32]
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: Fury on May 20, 2013, 09:15:56 AM

wHY DO YOU LET THE DEMOCRATS OFF THE HOOK ON THIS? 

I agree about the GOP, but why do you ignore the democraps kneepadding obama's crime spree?

It's sad, really. Here is he trying to spin this onto the Republicans instead of directing his outrage at Obama. He's a C*NT shill.
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: Option D on May 20, 2013, 09:18:23 AM
they are afraid on black riots in the cities since obama will incite this as a racial witchhunt



link proof source
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: 240 is Back on May 20, 2013, 09:18:31 AM
It's sad, really. Here is he trying to spin this onto the Republicans instead of directing his outrage at Obama. He's a C*NT shill.

???  LOL... I'm probably the loudest getbigger saying obama really should be impeached for this stuff.  It's true.  I think he's broken enough laws with the spying and IRS already.  Toss in benghazi - letting americans die while he partied with Jay-Z and held off help?  That's disgraceful.  

The impeachment calls started with Jason Chaffertz, a republican.  Let's hope cruz and rubio and rand and all the others step up and agree.  I dislike them following mccain and graham and collins with "oh, impeachment is just silly" because obama feeds all the wars they love.

Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 20, 2013, 09:29:49 AM
link proof source

Its an unspoken truth and you know it.  They are scared shit of 1992 la riots happening again and obama being tossed into jail would do it. 

The entire under tone of the Obama Admn has been one of racial threats and accusations.   The media has always gone soft on his solely to protect him as they are the ones who wanted the 1st black potus, regardless of whether a radical leftist pos of obama.  They helped elect him and now that he has proven every bit the incompetent worthless slug many of us said from day 1, they have to cover for him.

Additionally, ever notice when obama starts running into trouble he gins up the racial hatred o whites again like he did yesterday?   
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 20, 2013, 09:33:19 AM
No shit.  Republicans are just scared shitless of Obama.  

GOP = Pussies.  

LOL....I take him about as seriously as I take gimmicks on getbig. Again, anyone who supports him show's a lack of morals, honesty and integrity. He doesn't just need to be impeached, the entire administration including Obama needs to be removed. If he was charged and convicted on even a quarter of the laws he has broken he would be spending his remaining days in prison. This is FACT!
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: 240 is Back on May 20, 2013, 09:36:48 AM
LOL....I take him about as seriously as I take gimmicks on getbig. Again, anyone who supports him show's a lack of morals, honesty and integrity. He doesn't just need to be impeached, the entire administration including Obama needs to be removed. If he was charged and convicted on even a quarter of the laws he has broken he would be spending his remaining days in prison. This is FACT!


Coach, 333386 and 240.   Getbiggers who are calling for obama impeachment.   Any others?   ???

Coach, please visit the jason Chaffertz appreciation thread.  He's a congressman calling for impeachment - the only one, I believe!
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 20, 2013, 09:37:43 AM

Coach, 333386 and 240.   Getbiggers who are calling for obama impeachment.   Any others?   ???

Coach, please visit the jason Chaffertz appreciation thread.  He's a congressman calling for impeachment - the only one, I believe!

I'm not calling for impeachment, I'm calling for removal.
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: 240 is Back on May 20, 2013, 09:40:02 AM
I'm not calling for impeachment, I'm calling for removal.

ah, prosecute him for the crimes?  A president can pardon himself from ALL charges - any crime.  Except one:  IMPEACHMENT.

So we'd want him to be impeached THEN charged with whatever crimes.  But he can pardon himself while he's still in office.
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 20, 2013, 10:01:52 AM
ah, prosecute him for the crimes?  A president can pardon himself from ALL charges - any crime.  Except one:  IMPEACHMENT.

So we'd want him to be impeached THEN charged with whatever crimes.  But he can pardon himself while he's still in office.

I'm not a  constitutional attorney (obviously) but If he violation of abuse of power as well as treason, he can't do shit if an investigation is done and they find conclusive evidence. If they impeach, he should be removed..asap.
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: 240 is Back on May 20, 2013, 10:04:08 AM
I'm not a  constitutional attorney (obviously) but If he violation of abuse of power as well as treason, he can't do shit if an investigation is done and they find conclusive evidence.

They can do an investigation but no findings will result in him being charged.  The prez is invincible against any charges filed at him while in office.

once he's OUT of office, they can charge him with anything and lock him up, although they probably wouldn't. 

Obama has pardon power over himself for all crimes.  but he can be impeached - he has zero power to stop that.
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 20, 2013, 10:46:58 AM
Here's The Search Warrant Where The FBI Called A Fox News Reporter A 'Co-Conspirator' In A Leak Investigation
Brett LoGiurato

May 20, 2013, 12:42 PM|139|




 
New Yorker reporter Ryan Lizza points out the "most chilling" part of the search warrant on Fox News reporter James Rosen during a 2009 leak investigation.
 
In an application for a search warrant, FBI agent Reginald Reyes wrote that there was probable cause Rosen had violated the Espionage Act by soliciting classified information from Stephen J. Kim, a former State Department official. Reyes wrote that Rosen was an "aider and abettor and/or co-conspirator" in leaking the information.
 
According to the search warrant, which was posted by the Federation of American Scientists, Reyes wrote that Rosen may have committed a "conspiracy to violate" section of a law against leaking classified info, which he wrote was "punishable by up to 10 years imprisonment."
 
Reyes also wrote that the FBI had exhausted all other alternatives in the leak investigation when applying for a search warrant, short of asking Rosen to voluntarily provide his email communications.
 
"Because of the Reporter's own potential criminal liability in this matter, we believe that requesting the voluntary production of the materials from Reporter would be futile and would pose a substantial threat to the integrity of the investigation and of the evidence we seek to obtain by the warrant," Reyes wrote.
 
The Washington Post brought renewed attention to the 2009 investigation with a report late Sunday night.
 
The report comes at a time when the Obama administration is facing renewed scrutiny over leak investigations, a week after the Associated Press said that the Department of Justice had obtained more than two months of some of its reporters' phone records.
 
Here is the full search warrant:
 
James Rosen search warrant


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/james-rosen-leak-investigation-fox-news-reporter-dept-of-justice-2013-5#ixzz2Tr7zrt4B






Unfucking believable.   The obama crime syndicate can't control its own leakers so they target journalists trying to report the news. 

Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 20, 2013, 10:57:19 AM
LOL....I take him about as seriously as I take gimmicks on getbig. Again, anyone who supports him show's a lack of morals, honesty and integrity. He doesn't just need to be impeached, the entire administration including Obama needs to be removed. If he was charged and convicted on even a quarter of the laws he has broken he would be spending his remaining days in prison. This is FACT!

Yeah.  Because all other POTUS have been shining examples of morals, honesty and integrity.

 ::)

If he has done so wrong why are pussy Republicans scared to start removal proceedings? 
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 20, 2013, 11:16:09 AM
Report: Three Fox News Staffers Targeted By Justice Department
 Breitbart ^ | 5/20/13 | John Nolte


Posted on Monday, May 20, 2013 1:40:09


Fox News reports that three Fox staffers, two reporters and one producer, were targeted by Barack Obama's Justice Department. Fox doesn't have all the details yet on a reporter William La Jeunesse and producer Mike Levine, but their emails showed up in a IG report regarding Fast and Furious. Either their emails were leaked by the Justice Department officials they were sent to, or the email accounts of both were subpoenaed and invaded by government investigators.

The IG report does say that subpoenas were issued to obtain emails. Whose email was targeted is not yet known.

The third staffer is reporter James Rosen. The Washington Post's story behind that is downright chilling. What we have here is a case of the Obama Administration criminalizing reporting.

In June of 2009, James Rosen of Fox News reported that North Korea might respond to an increase in United Nations sanctions with even more nuclear tests. Rosen added that the CIA had learned this information from their sources within North Korea.


(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 20, 2013, 11:17:26 AM
Sounds pretty serious.
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 20, 2013, 11:19:15 AM
Here's Fox News' Scathing Statement On The Leak Investigation Into One Of Its Reporters
 

Brett LoGiurato|4 minutes ago|0|

 

 
Fox News Executive Vice President Michael Clemente has released a scathing statement on the leak investigation involving Fox News reporter James Rosen.
 
Here's the full statement:
 
“We are outraged to learn today that James Rosen was named a criminal co-conspirator for simply doing his job as a reporter. In fact, it is downright chilling. We will unequivocally defend his right to operate as a member of what up until now has always been a free press.”

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-james-rosen-doj-leak-investigation-statement-2013-5#ixzz2TrGwVlw0

Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 20, 2013, 11:24:19 AM
Yeah.  Because all other POTUS have been shining examples of morals, honesty and integrity.

 ::)

If he has done so wrong why are pussy Republicans scared to start removal proceedings? 

I have no idea. I have no problem having Boehner leave either. He isn't helping.
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: blacken700 on May 20, 2013, 11:36:43 AM

UPDATE:

Fox News Reporter May Face Criminal Charges for Reporting on the CIA

PHILIP BUMP 9:33 AM ET

The government will use any and all information at its disposal to find journalist sources, as shown in The Washington Post's report this morning on a Department of Justice investigation into Fox News chief correspondent James Rosen, who may face criminal charges for reporting government secrets.
 
In June 2009, Rosen reported on CIA analysis suggesting that North Korea might respond to new UN sanctions with renewed nuclear tests. In order to determine how Rosen learned of the analysis, which had been issued by the CIA only a few hours prior, FBI investigators used every tool at their disposal: analyzing Rosen's security access card to determine when he entered and left the State Department building, studying his phone records, and subpoenaing his personal email.
 
Ultimately, agents determined the source of the leak was likely the State Department's Stephen Jin-Woo Kim. Rosen and Kim established a high-tech version of the red-flag-in-a-planter system used by Bob Woodward during Watergate: when Kim wanted to meet, he would allegedly send an email to Rosen's Gmail account containing an asterisk. Rosen detailed the sorts of things he wanted to discuss.
 

He also wrote, according to the affidavit: “What I am interested in, as you might expect, is breaking news ahead of my competitors” including “what intelligence is picking up.” And: “I’d love to see some internal State Department analyses.”
 

According to the Post report, that's what Kim allegedly provided. And the way in which he did so appears to have been indiscreet. Their federally distributed security passes showed that Rosen and Kim left and returned to a building at the same time on the day of the leak. Kim's department phone records showed a number of calls between him and Rosen. When you work directly for Big Brother, you're likely to be caught.
 
Full article:
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/05/fox-news-reporter-james-rosen-may-face-criminal-charges-reporting-cia/65393/
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 20, 2013, 11:41:09 AM
UPDATE:

Fox News Reporter May Face Criminal Charges for Reporting on the CIA

PHILIP BUMP 9:33 AM ET

The government will use any and all information at its disposal to find journalist sources, as shown in The Washington Post's report this morning on a Department of Justice investigation into Fox News chief correspondent James Rosen, who may face criminal charges for reporting government secrets.
 
In June 2009, Rosen reported on CIA analysis suggesting that North Korea might respond to new UN sanctions with renewed nuclear tests. In order to determine how Rosen learned of the analysis, which had been issued by the CIA only a few hours prior, FBI investigators used every tool at their disposal: analyzing Rosen's security access card to determine when he entered and left the State Department building, studying his phone records, and subpoenaing his personal email.
 
Ultimately, agents determined the source of the leak was likely the State Department's Stephen Jin-Woo Kim. Rosen and Kim established a high-tech version of the red-flag-in-a-planter system used by Bob Woodward during Watergate: when Kim wanted to meet, he would allegedly send an email to Rosen's Gmail account containing an asterisk. Rosen detailed the sorts of things he wanted to discuss.
 

He also wrote, according to the affidavit: “What I am interested in, as you might expect, is breaking news ahead of my competitors” including “what intelligence is picking up.” And: “I’d love to see some internal State Department analyses.”
 

According to the Post report, that's what Kim allegedly provided. And the way in which he did so appears to have been indiscreet. Their federally distributed security passes showed that Rosen and Kim left and returned to a building at the same time on the day of the leak. Kim's department phone records showed a number of calls between him and Rosen. When you work directly for Big Brother, you're likely to be caught.
 
Full article:
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/05/fox-news-reporter-james-rosen-may-face-criminal-charges-reporting-cia/65393/

*CRICKETS*
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: Coach is Back! on May 20, 2013, 11:41:59 AM
UPDATE:

Fox News Reporter May Face Criminal Charges for Reporting on the CIA

PHILIP BUMP 9:33 AM ET

The government will use any and all information at its disposal to find journalist sources, as shown in The Washington Post's report this morning on a Department of Justice investigation into Fox News chief correspondent James Rosen, who may face criminal charges for reporting government secrets.
 
In June 2009, Rosen reported on CIA analysis suggesting that North Korea might respond to new UN sanctions with renewed nuclear tests. In order to determine how Rosen learned of the analysis, which had been issued by the CIA only a few hours prior, FBI investigators used every tool at their disposal: analyzing Rosen's security access card to determine when he entered and left the State Department building, studying his phone records, and subpoenaing his personal email.
 
Ultimately, agents determined the source of the leak was likely the State Department's Stephen Jin-Woo Kim. Rosen and Kim established a high-tech version of the red-flag-in-a-planter system used by Bob Woodward during Watergate: when Kim wanted to meet, he would allegedly send an email to Rosen's Gmail account containing an asterisk. Rosen detailed the sorts of things he wanted to discuss.
 

He also wrote, according to the affidavit: “What I am interested in, as you might expect, is breaking news ahead of my competitors” including “what intelligence is picking up.” And: “I’d love to see some internal State Department analyses.”
 

According to the Post report, that's what Kim allegedly provided. And the way in which he did so appears to have been indiscreet. Their federally distributed security passes showed that Rosen and Kim left and returned to a building at the same time on the day of the leak. Kim's department phone records showed a number of calls between him and Rosen. When you work directly for Big Brother, you're likely to be caught.
 
Full article:
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/05/fox-news-reporter-james-rosen-may-face-criminal-charges-reporting-cia/65393/

Four years later? Hahaha, give it up, son.
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: blacken700 on May 20, 2013, 11:50:44 AM
Four years later? Hahaha, give it up, son.

hows all your scandals going :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 20, 2013, 11:58:44 AM
I have no idea. I have no problem having Boehner leave either. He isn't helping.

You should start with that.
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: Roger Bacon on May 20, 2013, 12:45:30 PM
This is the same deal as Wikileaks...  You don't punish journalists for doing their job.
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 20, 2013, 01:03:23 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/20/doj-fox-news-james-rosen_n_3307422.html#comments

Obama criminilize reporting on his horrible failed admn
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: GigantorX on May 20, 2013, 01:09:03 PM
Yeah.  Because all other POTUS have been shining examples of morals, honesty and integrity.

 ::)

If he has done so wrong why are pussy Republicans scared to start removal proceedings? 

Great point.

When thing like this go down and even the opposition side doesn't want to get down to the heart of the matter and do some real digging....you know they don't want their skeletons to be outed.

IRS stuff and trying to make the press not so free are pretty big deals....but the Republicans are just going to to take shots through the media and do the same old, tired "Hearings!" and then get away as soon as possible. Score the points, do the damage but don't really dig any deeper.

It really is a different world in D.C., a real Good Old Boys Club. Gotta keep the status quo and stay in office, doing your actual job may prevent that.
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 20, 2013, 01:09:30 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/20/doj-fox-news-james-rosen_n_3307422.html#comments


Wait a minute - if obama / holder are claiming rosen is a co-conspirator - why did they not charge him along with Kim?
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: 240 is Back on May 07, 2014, 09:33:58 PM
The Impeachment Option
 Jason Chaffetz raises the prospect.

Representative Jason Chaffetz, a Utah Republican, says President Barack Obama may face impeachment over his administration’s response to the Benghazi attack.

UGH.   I hate seeing things like this.  There are MANY things you cut before embassy security. 

Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) acknowledged on Wednesday that House Republicans had consciously voted to reduce the funds allocated to the State Department for embassy security since winning the majority in 2010.

On Wednesday morning, CNN anchor Soledad O'Brien asked the Utah Republican if he had "voted to cut the funding for embassy security."

"Absolutely," Chaffetz said. "Look we have to make priorities and choices in this country. We have…15,000 contractors in Iraq. We have more than 6,000 contractors, a private army there, for President Obama, in Baghdad. And we’re talking about can we get two dozen or so people into Libya to help protect our forces. When you’re in tough economic times, you have to make difficult choices. You have to prioritize things.”

For the past two years, House Republicans have continued to deprioritize the security forces protecting State Department personnel around the world. In fiscal year 2011, lawmakers shaved $128 million off of the administration's request for embassy security funding. House Republicans drained off even more funds in fiscal year 2012 -- cutting back on the department's request by $331 million.
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 08, 2014, 02:30:11 AM

Um, had zero to do w staffing at the embassy

UGH.   I hate seeing things like this.  There are MANY things you cut before embassy security. 

Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) acknowledged on Wednesday that House Republicans had consciously voted to reduce the funds allocated to the State Department for embassy security since winning the majority in 2010.

On Wednesday morning, CNN anchor Soledad O'Brien asked the Utah Republican if he had "voted to cut the funding for embassy security."

"Absolutely," Chaffetz said. "Look we have to make priorities and choices in this country. We have…15,000 contractors in Iraq. We have more than 6,000 contractors, a private army there, for President Obama, in Baghdad. And we’re talking about can we get two dozen or so people into Libya to help protect our forces. When you’re in tough economic times, you have to make difficult choices. You have to prioritize things.”

For the past two years, House Republicans have continued to deprioritize the security forces protecting State Department personnel around the world. In fiscal year 2011, lawmakers shaved $128 million off of the administration's request for embassy security funding. House Republicans drained off even more funds in fiscal year 2012 -- cutting back on the department's request by $331 million.
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: Kazan on May 08, 2014, 06:09:50 AM
UGH.   I hate seeing things like this.  There are MANY things you cut before embassy security. 

Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) acknowledged on Wednesday that House Republicans had consciously voted to reduce the funds allocated to the State Department for embassy security since winning the majority in 2010.

On Wednesday morning, CNN anchor Soledad O'Brien asked the Utah Republican if he had "voted to cut the funding for embassy security."

"Absolutely," Chaffetz said. "Look we have to make priorities and choices in this country. We have…15,000 contractors in Iraq. We have more than 6,000 contractors, a private army there, for President Obama, in Baghdad. And we’re talking about can we get two dozen or so people into Libya to help protect our forces. When you’re in tough economic times, you have to make difficult choices. You have to prioritize things.”

For the past two years, House Republicans have continued to deprioritize the security forces protecting State Department personnel around the world. In fiscal year 2011, lawmakers shaved $128 million off of the administration's request for embassy security funding. House Republicans drained off even more funds in fiscal year 2012 -- cutting back on the department's request by $331 million.

Benghazi was a consulate
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: 240 is Back on May 08, 2014, 06:22:02 AM
Um, had zero to do w staffing at the embassy


You don't think staffing the embassy with a dozen add'l armed guards might have helped that day?

No denying ANY extra hands on guns that day would have helped.  My point is that the tea party congressman were just way too "trigger happy" with comments without knowing the full potential ramifications.   "Shut it down!" and "Prioritize the embassies!" without really thinking it thru.
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 08, 2014, 06:24:07 AM
You don't think staffing the embassy with a dozen add'l armed guards might have helped that day?

No denying ANY extra hands on guns that day would have helped.  My point is that the tea party congressman were just way too "trigger happy" with comments without knowing the full potential ramifications.   "Shut it down!" and "Prioritize the embassies!" without really thinking it thru.

Do read anything?  There was sworn testimony in a hearing on this for F's sake
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: 240 is Back on May 08, 2014, 09:10:55 AM
Do read anything?  There was sworn testimony in a hearing on this for F's sake

this doesn't explain Cheffertz' statement.

NOW i see why he was the first and LOUDEST voice with the "impeach obama over benghazi!"   

He was screaming about cutting funding to protect the embassies.  Bad thing to support.
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: Dos Equis on May 08, 2014, 09:35:02 AM
Another blatantly misleading liberal talking point.  His vote had nothing to do with reducing security in Benghazi.
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: 240 is Back on May 08, 2014, 09:46:19 AM
Another blatantly misleading liberal talking point.  His vote had nothing to do with reducing security in Benghazi.

Did he vote to cut spending for embassy security?  Yes or no?
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: Dos Equis on May 08, 2014, 09:55:31 AM
Did he vote to cut spending for embassy security?  Yes or no?

Did you post another misleading liberal talking point without verifying its accuracy, again?  Yes or no?
Title: Re: Obama Admn spied on Fox New Reporter
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 30, 2014, 11:50:55 AM
Eric Holder Regrets Not Using Better Language to Target Fox News' James Rosen
Townhall.com ^  | October 30, 2014 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on ‎10‎/‎30‎/‎2014‎ ‎2‎:‎14‎:‎26‎ ‎PM by Kaslin



Attorney General Eric Holder officially submitted his resignation to President Obama last month after six years at the Department of Justice. Although a replacement for Holder will not be nominated until after the 2014 midterm elections, the attorney general is opening up about his worst decision during his tenure.  I can't imagine it was easy for him to choose only one.

Speaking yesterday at a forum held in Washington D.C., Holder said he should have taken a "closer look at the language" used in subpoena naming Fox News' James Rosen as a criminal co-conspirator.

Asked what decision he wishes he could do over, Holder said: "I think about the subpoena to the Fox reporter, Rosen."

Holder was referring to a 2010 search warrant application seeking Rosen's emails. The Justice Department at the time was investigating who leaked information contained in a series of reports by Rosen in 2009 about North Korea's nuclear weapons program.

In the course of seeking Rosen's emails, an FBI agent submitted an affidavit claiming there was evidence that Rosen broke the law, "at the very least, either as an aider, abettor and/or co-conspirator." The affidavit went so far as to invoke the Espionage Act -- pertaining to the unauthorized gathering and transmitting of defense information.

On Wednesday, Holder said that application could have been done "differently" and "better."

"I think that I could have been a little more careful looking at the language that was contained in the filing that we made with the court -- that he was labeled as a co-conspirator," Holder said, while claiming they did that "as a result of the statute."


Eric Holder Admits He Regrets Labeling Fox’s Rosen a ‘Co-Conspirator’

Holder doesn't seem to actually regret targeting Rosen, but instead regrets the kind of language that was used in his case. Notice how he doesn't mention anything about the importance of non-interference from government in the work of journalists. In his statement Holder justifies the action and says it was necessary under a statute, while at the same attempts to portray that the way things happened "could have been done differently."

As a reminder, the Department of Justice didn't simply monitor the phone calls and emails of Rosen, but monitored the phone lines running to his parent's house and tracked his movements.

When the Justice Department began investigating possible leaks of classified information about North Korea in 2009, investigators did more than obtain telephone records of a working journalist suspected of receiving the secret material.

They used security badge access records to track the reporter’s comings and goings from the State Department, according to a newly obtained court affidavit. They traced the timing of his calls with a State Department security adviser suspected of sharing the classified report. They obtained a search warrant for the reporter’s personal e-mails.
UPDATE: James Rosen has issued a statement in response to Holder's comments.
Throughout this ordeal for my family and me, I have tried to keep my head down and continue covering – and breaking – the news. I consider myself blessed to have an employer in Fox News, and a boss in Roger Ailes, who have stood by me and enabled me to remain focused on what matters most to me in professional terms: first-rate journalism. At some later point, I may have more to say about this entire controversy, which – as commentators from across the ideological spectrum have noted – does indeed raise serious concerns about the state of press freedoms under the present administration. Suffice to say for now that the attorney general’s latest comments about my case, like his previous remarks, scarcely address the relevant facts of his conduct.