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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Irongrip400 on May 20, 2013, 06:36:48 PM
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If you google it, there are many answers, some saying it's a cartel of private bankers etc. Can some of you non conspiracy theorists or neutral parties answer this? Wiggs, you need not answer, I know where you fall in this category.
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No, your money is as legit as the perishables it currently purchases.
Sturdy as the rock of Gibraltar
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Non governmental bank that (technically) answers to the US congress.
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It's as Federal as Federal Express...read the beast of Jekyll island.
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it returns all extra surplus revenue(minus wages) to the treasury.
so from economical perspective, thats hardly private.
i mean which private businessman would have interest engaging in this business, under these circumstances.
Gal brother, for a foreigner, you have a pretty vast knowledge of American politics and economic policies.
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The federal reserve is a private bank of the elite it's controlled by the rothschilds and Rockefellers if you want to know the answers YouTube an animated 30 minute movie named the American dream, all your answers will be found in that 30 minute movie, and I have no idea why you would ask conspiracy theorists not to answer, haven't you realized that there's no longer such thing as conspiracy theorist since everything the ct reveal is factual reality, it's the masses and opponents of ct that refuse to reveal the truths or believe the truths, in shirt the federal reserve is the private bank of the elite which is used to enslave America
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The federal reserve is a private bank of the elite it's controlled by the rothschilds and Rockefellers if you want to know the answers YouTube an animated 30 minute movie named the American dream, all your answers will be found in that 30 minute movie, and I have no idea why you would ask conspiracy theorists not to answer, haven't you realized that there's no longer such thing as conspiracy theorist since everything the ct reveal is factual reality, it's the masses and opponents of ct that refuse to reveal the truths or believe the truths, in shirt the federal reserve is the private bank of the elite which is used to enslave America
Galeniko, you want to handle this one? :D
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The federal reserve is a private bank that loans the people's wealth back to them at interest....after we gave them the "credit" to do so.
or to put it more eloquently..."The only way to comprehend what mathematicians mean by Infinity is to contemplate the extent of human stupidity." -- Voltaire
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I confess. I own it.
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Oh shit here we go, ;D
I am going to sit this one out, I have been feuding way to much lately, burnt out from battling all those gimmicks that flood the board as of late.
maybe next one :D ;)
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Oh shit here we go, ;D
I am going to sit this one out, I have been feuding way to much lately, burnt out from battling all those gimmicks that flood the board as of late.
maybe next one :D ;)
What side are you on broseph? I admit I'm still somewhere in the middle...
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im sorry brother, but that book is full of lies and was severly debunked.
How was it debunked? Sources?
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The federal reserve is essentially a private institution and it is quite complex (see below), but it does serve the elites and keeps the poor poor. Basically under the gold standard, because there was real backing behind your money, essentially gold bars, the value of you money stayed constant, so the $100 you earned today would still be worth $100 in 10 years. Unlike the current system, where the FED is constantly manipulating the value of money by over and under supply and interest rate changes leading to ridiculous bubbles and crashes and sky high inflation. Essentially the $100 you earn today will be worth $20 ten years from now encouraging you to spend your money before it becomes worthless. This is good for stimulating economies, but bad if you don't want to have to work forever to stay afloat.
Imagine you had more than enough money (Big bankers and corporations) and weren't effected by these spikes in the market and you could manipulate things so that the value of other peoples assets (like their homes) would become worth a lot less than they currently are. You could foreclose on their loans and buy up their assets for a fraction of what they are worth. You then manipulate the market back in the other direction and make large profits on your newly acquired budget priced assets. The old cliché of "Buy Low - Sell High" is easy to do when you (The federal reserve) are the one responsible for the highs and lows.
I am trying to think of a reliable metaphor, but those who control the money supply hold a great deal of power over those at the middle to lower end of the financial spectrum. People like to think the federal reserve has the peoples best interests at heart, but don't be fooled they are only doing what is best for them, if sending everyone near broke and working 60 hours a week is in their best interests, than that's what they will create. And that's exactly what they have done.
1. The Fed is privately owned.
Its shareholders are private banks. In fact, 100% of its shareholders are private banks. None of its stock is owned by the government.
2. The fact that the Fed does not get “appropriations” from Congress basically means that it gets its money from Congress without congressional approval, by engaging in “open market operations.”
Here is how it works: When the government is short of funds, the Treasury issues bonds and delivers them to bond dealers, which auction them off. When the Fed wants to “expand the money supply” (create money), it steps in and buys bonds from these dealers with newly-issued dollars acquired by the Fed for the cost of writing them into an account on a computer screen. These maneuvers are called “open market operations” because the Fed buys the bonds on the “open market” from the bond dealers. The bonds then become the “reserves” that the banking establishment uses to back its loans. In another bit of sleight of hand known as “fractional reserve” lending, the same reserves are lent many times over, further expanding the money supply, generating interest for the banks with each loan. It was this money-creating process that prompted Wright Patman, Chairman of the House Banking and Currency Committee in the 1960s, to call the Federal Reserve “a total money-making machine.” He wrote:
“When the Federal Reserve writes a check for a government bond it does exactly what any bank does, it creates money, it created money purely and simply by writing a check.”
3. The Fed generates profits for its shareholders.
The interest on bonds acquired with its newly-issued Federal Reserve Notes pays the Fed’s operating expenses plus a guaranteed 6% return to its banker shareholders. A mere 6% a year may not be considered a profit in the world of Wall Street high finance, but most businesses that manage to cover all their expenses and give their shareholders a guaranteed 6% return are considered “for profit” corporations.
In addition to this guaranteed 6%, the banks will now be getting interest from the taxpayers on their “reserves.” The basic reserve requirement set by the Federal Reserve is 10%. The website of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York explains that as money is redeposited and relent throughout the banking system, this 10% held in “reserve” can be fanned into ten times that sum in loans; that is, $10,000 in reserves becomes $100,000 in loans. Federal Reserve Statistical Release H.8 puts the total “loans and leases in bank credit” as of September 24, 2008 at $7,049 billion. Ten percent of that is $700 billion. That means we the taxpayers will be paying interest to the banks on at least $700 billion annually – this so that the banks can retain the reserves to accumulate interest on ten times that sum in loans.
The banks earn these returns from the taxpayers for the privilege of having the banks’ interests protected by an all-powerful independent private central bank, even when those interests may be opposed to the taxpayers’ — for example, when the banks use their special status as private money creators to fund speculative derivative schemes that threaten to collapse the U.S. economy. Among other special benefits, banks and other financial institutions (but not other corporations) can borrow at the low Fed funds rate of about 2%. They can then turn around and put this money into 30-year Treasury bonds at 4.5%, earning an immediate 2.5% from the taxpayers, just by virtue of their position as favored banks. A long list of banks (but not other corporations) is also now protected from the short selling that can crash the price of other stocks.
If the Fed were actually a federal agency, the government could issue U.S. legal tender directly, avoiding an unnecessary interest-bearing debt to private middlemen who create the money out of thin air themselves. Among other benefits to the taxpayers. a truly “federal” Federal Reserve could lend the full faith and credit of the United States to state and local governments interest-free, cutting the cost of infrastructure in half, restoring the thriving local economies of earlier decades.
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So the POLICE and the Fed Bank rep both say it is PRIVATE PROPERTY. So how is that govt owned?
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Is it true American taxpayers pay INTEREST to the Federal Reserve, on the bank bailout money they gave the federal reserve?
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Is it true American taxpayers pay INTEREST to the Federal Reserve, on the bank bailout money they gave the federal reserve?
It's even better than that. Not only do we have to pay interest to this private enterprise on our own wealth that they priviledge us with access too but because Congress made the Federal Reserve note the only acceptable payment of all debt (read the fine print on your fiat notes)...we have to BORROW the money from the Fed to pay this interest! Of course we have to pay new interest on the money we just borrowed to pay that interest...which means we'll have to borrow new money to pay the interest on the money we just borrowed to pay that interest...which means that we'll have to borrow new money to pay the interest on the money we just borrowed to pay that interest...which means that we'll have to borrow new money to pay the interest on the money we just borrowed to pay that interest...which means that we'll have to borrow new money to pay the interest on the money we just borrowed to pay that interest...which means that we will never pay off the "national debt" and the currency supply will always increase to service this new debt which means an increase in the supply of money" will ALWAYS increase, which means the value of the "currency" you labor hard to earn will ALWAYS lose value.
Fantastic eh?
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How is it owned by the Rothschild and Rockefeller families? What's the ct on those families? Is it tied into the illuminati? ???
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The Fed reserve is JEW owned
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Adonis and galeniko know nothing about the federal reserve and just because a movie an animated movie at that tells the story of the fed, I guess You two monkeys attention spans are too small and your brainwashed so bad you can't even watch to learn something, Adonis your an obamanoid sheepleite
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Adonis and galeniko know nothing about the federal reserve and just because a movie an animated movie at that tells the story of the fed, I guess. You two monkeys attention spans are too small and your brainwashed so bad you can't even watch to learn something, Adonis your an obama pod sheepleite
It seems so. They bash your statements, but provide nothing of substance to support their own ideas.
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hey adonis and galeniko, heres a 30 minute animated movie, ohh but it was posted on youtube, and it gives the reasons for the destroyed world economy, why your broke, and what the role the federal reserve plays in it all, if you can watch a 30 minute cartoon maybe i will take you more serious, and you might actually learn something, heres the link know it all assmen........... ohh and it also provides the answers of the rockefellers and rothschilds role in the banking system and federal reserve, enjoy studs, galeniko and obanis
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hey adonis and galeniko, heres a 30 minute animated movie, ohh but it was posted on youtube, and it gives the reasons for the destroyed world economy, why your broke, and what the role the federal reserve plays in it all, if you can watch a 30 minute cartoon maybe i will take you more serious, and you might actually learn something, heres the link know it all assmen........... ohh and it also provides the answers of the rockefellers and rothschilds role in the banking system and federal reserve, enjoy studs, galeniko and obanis
I prefer to watch the Youtube video of Cswol Benching 225 for 50 0 instead.
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BBD, you know bottom line galeniko and adonis are haterz, they cant stand being wrong or told they are brainwashed monkeys, and then when you prove them wrong with factual evidence they merely resort to bashing and name calling like little kids, somewhere reveling in their mind what are they to do because their contributions to the antiquated systems of made up illusory materialism has them enslaved mind body and soul, and its such a horrible shock to their minds for a smart awake person to actually throw the pie in their face, they cant even take it like men, what girlymen arnold said they were.
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last monday i hit my chest aka resting the weight and bar on your chest bench press and got 40 reps
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last monday i hit my chest aka resting the weight and bar on your chest bench press and got 40 reps
Now thats more like it. 40 reps with 225 is very good.
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I prefer to watch the Youtube video of Cswol Benching 225 for 50 0 instead.
What the fuck did I just watch?
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Galeniko is, like many older gentleman, a level headed person and I respect that - probably was sharing a cell with Sokrates and Plato. :D
If you get your knowledge form youtube videos alone you can't claim it's truth and it's laughable if people call watching videos "investigation".
Many cool things out there but only a few really hold meaningful value.
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hitting your chest with the bar is resting the weight in my book, it takes the pressure and tension off the muscle, i dont like performing it that way, but back to the thread, it would be a help if you watched the american dream full length movie, maybe you will learn something.
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its an animated movie, aka cartoon, but gives the truths, facts, and reasons for the existence and the role of the federal reserve, I know many of you cant sit and watch a 30 minute movie, but after you watch it you will learn something and will stop posting bullshit you dont know about the federal reserve.
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the american dream full length movie, watch and learn
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Galeniko is, like many older gentleman, a level headed person and I respect that - probably was sharing a cell with Sokrates and Plato. :D
If you get your knowledge form youtube videos alone you can't claim it's truth and it's laughable if people call watching videos "investigation".
Many cool things out there but only a few really hold meaningful value.
Funny, I am University educated, and value quality info, but I think 99 percent of people get all their info off the internet, conservatives and liberals alike. Yuo have to have the ability to sift thru the garbage and most people do not have that ability. But if you do have it, there is a wealth of good info on the net.
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it details a chronological history of the banking systems and the federal reserve
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Funny, I am University educated, and value quality info, but I think 99 percent of people get all their info off the internet, conservatives and liberals alike. Yuo have to have the ability to sift thru the garbage and most people do not have that ability. But if you do have it, there is a wealth of good info on the net.
Absolutely and I'm really thankful for that but I also have to be highly critical because of various run ins with youtube experts on world conspiracies who think that every rock on this earth has been moved into position by the Rothchilds.
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Funny, I am University educated, and value quality info, but I think 99 percent of people get all their info off the internet, conservatives and liberals alike. Yuo have to have the ability to sift thru the garbage and most people do not have that ability. But if you do have it, there is a wealth of good info on the net.
Most of the time history is told from one perspective. Lots of room for BS to be thrown in.
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Watching some youtube video does not constitute fact...watch both these videos...the one the conspiracy theorist want you to believe, then the video with the whole speech...It is JFKs speech on secret societies...
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To argue with Adonis when he's not trolling is one thing. To argue with a transsexual fucked and fucking, European drug addict is another. Gaylinko has a head full of fuzz. He's not to be trusted.
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Yes Goodrum owns it.
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The Fed is privately owned.
I once worked there...
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If the Fed were actually a federal agency, the government could issue U.S. legal tender directly, avoiding an unnecessary interest-bearing debt to private middlemen who create the money out of thin air themselves. Among other benefits to the taxpayers. a truly “federal” Federal Reserve could lend the full faith and credit of the United States to state and local governments interest-free, cutting the cost of infrastructure in half, restoring the thriving local economies of earlier decades.
Whatever the status of conspiracy theory claims regarding the supposedly pernicious nature of Fed operations, who thinks it would function more effectively as a federally administered agency under the direct behest of the President, Congress, and a bunch of government drones that would forever avoid accountability for fuck-ups? Can any person describe in detail how this alternative arrangement would function in good times and bad?
1. Instead of middle-men creating the wealth out of thin air, the government itself will do so. I don't see a substantive difference as far as principles go, then.
2. The government will suddenly avoid its profligate ways (see: fiscal policy) and become a responsible administrator of monetary policy, better than a nominally independent group of specialists insulated from political pressure?
3. Interest payments to the evil middlemen are rebated to the Treasury less operating costs, making the issue of profits irrelevant -- especially given that a "truly federal Fed" would have similar costs of its own.
blargh
The Reserve is legally required to return profits to the Treasury and its doing so is a well-documented empirical phenomenon. Further, the payments going to the Fed that subsequently return to the Treasury would otherwise go to a variety of investors (wealthy persons, foreign governments) with no better motivations than the Fed -- profit-seeking, potential economic warfare, etc.
Putting that issue on ice or a moment, are you aware of any remotely plausible alternative to the current institutional arrangement? Vague complaints of the current arrangement don't seem pertinent in a context where viable alternatives are non-existent.
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Jew know who
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True Anus is a Jew (Fake). Naturally he wants to protect the other fake jews that run the "Federal" Reserve.
JEWS THAT RUN THE PRIVATELY-OWNED FEDERAL RESERVE BANK:
1) Ben S. Bernanke: Chairman of the Board of Governors of Federal Reserve. Term ends 2020.
2) Donald L. Kohn: Vice Chairman of the Board of Governors of Federal Reserve. Term ends 2016.
3) Randall S. Kroszner: Member of Board of Governors of Federal Reserve.
4) Frederic S. Mishkin: Member of Board of Governors of Federal Reserve. Term ends 2014.
5) Alan Greenspan: Advisor to Board of Governors of Federal Reserve. Recent Chairman.
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THE JEWISH BANKS THAT OWN THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
* Rothschild Banks of London and Berlin
* Goldman Sachs Bank of New York
* Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York/Shearson American Express
* Lazard Brothers Bank of Paris
* Israel Moses Sief Banks of Italy
* Warburg Bank of Hamburg, Germany and Amsterdam
* Lehman Brothers Bank of New York
* Chase Manhattan Bank of New York (David Rockefeller)
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CENTRAL-BANKING JEWS AND THE ROCKEFELLERS
ROTHSCHILD OIL INTERESTS centered in the Caucasus had as its only competitor, John D. Rockefeller’s Standard Oil in the late 1800s. In 1892, a Jew, (like his contractors), Samuel Marcus, established the Shell Oil Company as the marketing arm for the Rothschild’s Baku Oil so as to compete with Standard Oil for oil rights in the Suez Canal.
In 1902, Marcus’ enterprise called itself the Royal Dutch/Shell Group and had weakened Standard Oil’s markets by introducing kerosene as an oil substitute. John D. Rockefeller then jumped at the offer by the Rothschilds to join the Royal Dutch/Shell Group in a worldwide oil cartel.
The Rothschilds heavily financed John D. Rockefeller’s Standard Oil by helping him in 1911 to establish prominence of his Chase Manhattan Bank of NY through acquiring the huge Equitable Trust. Chase Manhattan Bank is now one of the co-owners of the Rothschild-controlled Federal Reserve Bank.
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thanks syntaxmachine.great post
yeah ppl are against fractional reserve banking haha, they got no idea whatd happen by tomorow if that would be stopped.
the stupid fuckng oxes ::)
and if the fed dont give loans,who will?look up history who did and tell me thats better than the fed. ::)
and the printed out of thin air doesnt even deserve an answer.
its not printed out of thin air, its always printed when somebody signs contract for a loan.very simple.thsi has great great economical value.
and yeah they can borrow 10 times more than they have reserves, what wrong with that.nothing.if they were required to hold 100% guess whatd happen ::)
and its not like they make 900% profit off a loan ffs.
quadzilla, you knuckledraggin moron, alan greenspan doesnt run shit, he used to.
he was also a staunch ayn rand-ian.
i hope this helps.
suggest a better system, bring it on, dont hold back.
Oh brother. Robbing Peter to pay Paul will only work for so long. The Federal Reserve has been around for barely 100 years. How on Earth did we get here over thousands of years without this system?
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You're a faucking dumb fuck midget.
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thanks syntaxmachine.great post
yeah ppl are against fractional reserve banking haha, they got no idea whatd happen by tomorow if that would be stopped.
the stupid fuckng oxes ::)
and if the fed dont give loans,who will?look up history who did and tell me thats better than the fed. ::)
and the printed out of thin air doesnt even deserve an answer.
its not printed out of thin air, its always printed when somebody signs contract for a loan.very simple.thsi has great great economical value.
and yeah they can borrow 10 times more than they have reserves, what wrong with that.nothing.if they were required to hold 100% guess whatd happen ::)
and its not like they make 900% profit off a loan ffs.
quadzilla, you knuckledraggin moron, alan greenspan doesnt run shit, he used to.
he was also a staunch ayn rand-ian.
i hope this helps.
suggest a better system, bring it on, dont hold back.
Who cares what Greenspan's current status is? He WAS involved and probably still is.
Alan Greenspan: Advisor to Board of Governors of Federal Reserve. Recent Chairman.
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This is WHY America is finished. Look at the replies from all the schmoes.
Yes the Federal Reserve is 100% private owned.
Better get your facts straight...The govt owns a percentage of it...Around 15 to 25 percent...
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3. Interest payments to the evil middlemen are rebated to the Treasury less operating costs, making the issue of profits irrelevant -- especially given that a "truly federal Fed" would have similar costs of its own.
The Reserve is legally required to return profits to the Treasury and its doing so is a well-documented empirical phenomenon.
Can you provide some proof of this? Of course it is how it should be. But many say that the interest the fed charges stays with the fed.
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and the printed out of thin air doesnt even deserve an answer.
its not printed out of thin air, its always printed when somebody signs contract for a loan.very simple.thsi has great great economical value.
and yeah they can borrow 10 times more than they have reserves, what wrong with that.nothing
I am pretty sure these comments go against all traditional monetary management principles.
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thanks syntaxmachine.great post
yeah ppl are against fractional reserve banking haha, they got no idea whatd happen by tomorow if that would be stopped.
the stupid fuckng oxes ::)
and if the fed dont give loans,who will?look up history who did and tell me thats better than the fed. ::)
and the printed out of thin air doesnt even deserve an answer.
its not printed out of thin air, its always printed when somebody signs contract for a loan.very simple.thsi has great great economical value.
and yeah they can borrow 10 times more than they have reserves, what wrong with that.nothing.if they were required to hold 100% guess whatd happen ::)
and its not like they make 900% profit off a loan ffs.
quadzilla, you knuckledraggin moron, alan greenspan doesnt run shit, he used to.
he was also a staunch ayn rand-ian.
i hope this helps.
suggest a better system, bring it on, dont hold back.
??? ??? ??? No,
this is horrible, this will come back and fuck us up in the future with a complete shut down of the economy.
The federal reserve bank is privately owned, and the money printed is not going into the government, it is going to privately owned banker's personal pockets, see above at quadzilla456's post of who controls this banks
The fact is they print money, in the trillions and just put it in their fortune any time they want without anyone checking on them or inspecting, no repercussions to them, nothing and they get away with it. I tried to stay out of this thread but wow, I simply can not, you guys have to start learning about this stuff.
So watch this video gal and explained to us how this is good, when 9 trillion dollars just ups and walks away and no one knows shit, this what these privately own bankers to with the federal reserve and they do it all the time and have been doing for 200 years, watch this video.
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gal and Ta, you guys need to understand one thing:
The federal reserve banks make money whenever they want and it has nothing to do with the government. If the bankers make a trillion dollars they give half of it to the government so the government is happy and keeps their mouth shut and they put the other half in their pocket.
I don't understand how you guys do not want to believe this, why is it so hard to believe.
gal you say their is a paper trail with a signature when they print money for loans, sorry bro your wrong, there is not, that's the problem is they don't have to answer to anyone. When the government investigates they hit a brick wall and don't find where the money is going. This happens all the time, it is shocking that people do not want to believe this, the info is out there..
here is another video
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The question is how do I get in on this act and collect a few billion myself?
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gal and Ta, you guys need to understand one thing:
The federal reserve banks make money whenever they want and it has nothing to do with the government. If the bankers make a trillion dollars they give half of it to the government so the government is happy and keeps their mouth shut and they put the other half in their pocket.
I don't understand how you guys do not want to believe this, why is it so hard to believe.
gal you say their is a paper trail with a signature when they print money for loans, sorry bro your wrong, there is not, that's the problem is they don't have to answer to anyone. When the government investigates they hit a brick wall and don't find where the money is going. This happens all the time, it is shocking that people do not want to believe this, the info is out there..
here is another video
LOL you can tell this guy is SHITTING HIMSELF.
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LOL you can tell this guy is SHITTING HIMSELF.
Ta and gal are wrong.
These guys don't answer to NO ONE, they print and claim it is a loan but only half is the other half is their pay checks and this is how these families get rich cause they pay themselves whenever they want and there is no paper trail or nothing, these 2 videos above end this thread. the truth is right there.
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Ta and gal are wrong.
These guys don't answer to NO ONE, they print and claim it is a loan but only half is the other half is their pay checks and this is how these families get rich cause they pay themselves whenever they want and there is no paper trail or nothing, these 2 videos above end this thread. the truth is right there.
What do they do with this money, store it in vaults? You do realize that cash money is becoming obsolete. The real crime is how banks can now fudge electronic bank accounts and transfer money around the world with a click of the mouse.
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What do they do with this money, store it in vaults? You do realize that cash money is becoming obsolete. The real crime is how banks can now fudge electronic bank accounts and transfer money around the world with a click of the mouse.
Paper money means nothing, it is processed through privately owned Banks around the world.
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hey you moron, no foreign bank own an fed reserve bank ::)
The federal reserve only loans money to 14 banks, that's it. From there the 14 banks do what they want with the money.
8 of these banks are the in the states and are federal reserve banks and 6 of them are not in the US . The Rothschild central bank and the New York central bank are the main players where most of the money printed go first.
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LOL you can tell this guy is SHITTING HIMSELF.
That is exactly the reason why Grayson is not there anymore.
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The federal reserve only loans money to 14 banks, that's it. From there the 14 banks do what they want with the money.
8 of these banks are the in the states and are federal reserve banks and 6 of them are not in the US . The Rothschild central bank and the New York central bank are the main players where most of the money printed go first.
Don't stress over him. He doesn't know what he is talking about. Just has a slick presentation.
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You have to love how they "lend" out money blindly then have to do a review to figure out who actually got it. What a bunch of fucking crooks. Forget about this 1% bullshit. It is .00000000000001% essentially 15 or so people that control 99% of the worlds wealth.
??? ??? ??? No,
this is horrible, this will come back and fuck us up in the future with a complete shut down of the economy.
The federal reserve bank is privately owned, and the money printed is not going into the government, it is going to privately owned banker's personal pockets, see above at quadzilla456's post of who controls this banks
The fact is they print money, in the trillions and just put it in their fortune any time they want without anyone checking on them or inspecting, no repercussions to them, nothing and they get away with it. I tried to stay out of this thread but wow, I simply can not, you guys have to start learning about this stuff.
So watch this video gal and explained to us how this is good, when 9 trillion dollars just ups and walks away and no one knows shit, this what these privately own bankers to with the federal reserve and they do it all the time and have been doing for 200 years, watch this video.
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You have to love how they "lend" out money blindly then have to do a review to figure out who actually got it. What a bunch of fucking crooks. Forget about this 1% bullshit. It is .00000000000001% essentially 15 or so people that control 99% of the worlds wealth.
and there ain't shit anyone can do about it....Rothchild once said "you can buy half the poor to kill the other half".....
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You have to love how they "lend" out money blindly then have to do a review to figure out who actually got it. What a bunch of fucking crooks. Forget about this 1% bullshit. It is .00000000000001% essentially 15 or so people that control 99% of the worlds wealth.
It's the way it goes but what can anyone do, the system of currency belongs to them. Crooks is right
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and there ain't shit anyone can do about it....Rothchild once said "you can buy half the poor to kill the other half".....
You just described the sole existence of the Police. I have said this many times. The invention of Police was to do the Bankers dirty work. Collect debts, kick people out of homes and protect them.
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lol at the joke at 3,55, 'they finally cut me off'' :D
TA is so naive it is not even funny, watch this TA
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lol at the joke at 3,55, 'they finally cut me off'' :D
TA is so naive it is not even funny, watch this TA
It's hard to judge what TA truly believes because at times you wonder if he is just trolling hard to play devil's advocate.
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lol at the joke at 3,55, 'they finally cut me off'' :D
TA is so naive it is not even funny, watch this TA
he's been eating too much of the GMO shit.....'it might be a tumor"
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he's been eating too much of the GMO shit.....'it might be a tumor"
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I like posting with smart people....makes it so much easier for them to get the references.
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It's hard to judge what TA truly believes because at times you wonder if he is just trolling hard to play devil's advocate.
Actually the thought never crossed my mind, but come to think about, maybe he is trolling.
Either way this not hard to see how it works
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Just my twopeneth, but what difference does it make to the man on the street if its privately owned or not?
I real terms.
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i dont know, before central banks ,in newyork jp morgan had quite the monopoly on money, and the rest was handled by-who else-loansharks.
What's the difference between a banker and a loanshark?
The loan shark only busts a knee cap. the banker takes your car, your home, your business, your clothes, your jewelry......
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Just my twopeneth, but what difference does it make to the man on the street if its privately owned or not?
I real terms.
Well the difference is that eventually the dollar won't be worth shit. It is worth 4 cents in comparison to what it was worth at the birth of the federal reserve which means there will be an economical collapse in the future.
This also means the stock markets will crash and the financial market will take a dive. All the shares that are owned in mutual funds and stocks will be worth zero. You think you have 250 000 dollars in stocks then all of a suden in a blink of an eye it will be worth 500 dollars. This happened before and it will happen again.
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i dont know, before central banks ,in newyork jp morgan had quite the monopoly on money, and the rest was handled by-who else-loansharks.
did you know jp morgan is a Rothschild? richest man in America yet nothing but a LT for the Rothschild family.
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another difference is the interest rate.
here in switzerland a bank cant take shit from you, expect the house if it was mortgage financed.
yeah i know, the jewish stick togehter, theyre very smart.
while we westeners go out clubbing , binge drinking, doing dec drugs and buy stuff from loans that we dont need and then we go and blame everyone else but ourselves.i have a jewsih boss, their family is ran like a military department.
i mean who else should run finances if not the best ones?
let ron paul run the fed, or impose his idea and see the economic meltdown.the guy is a vaginal doctor ffs, some ppl think hes a qualified economist haha.
hes litarlly a vaginal doctor.
Aren't you a pussy doctor as well ;)
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Just my twopeneth, but what difference does it make to the man on the street if its privately owned or not?
I real terms.
A more significant difference than any other aspect of government or business in your life.
Just take the last 2 years of fed decisions. Quantitative easing has made more of a direct impact on average people than any piece of legislation or any corporate decision in many years. For good or worse. Stock market investors have made billions cause of it. Others have lost as much in aggregate.
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http://forums.randi.org/forumdisplay.php?f=83
If you have any questions about how the FED is run, go and read a few threads here and sign up and ask your questions, the guys there know their stuff and it wont be youtube videos. ;)
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http://forums.randi.org/forumdisplay.php?f=83
If you have any questions about how the FED is run, go and read a few threads here and sign up and ask your questions, the guys there know their stuff and it wont be youtube videos. ;)
My youtube video's was not biased or based on opinions, they were what goes on in court at that level proving that the federal reserve is privately owned and that the government does not have control over it nor does it have access to documentations or anything.
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Geeeee.....wish I owned a company that produced as its product sovereign money for a first world country, I promise I wont use it for my personal use....as long as you promise to NEVER check on my books...DEAL.
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Geeeee.....wish I owned a company that produced as its product sovereign money for a first world country, I promise I wont use it for my personal use....as long as you promise to NEVER check on my books...DEAL.
Isn't that what bitcoin is trying to do?
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Geeeee.....wish I owned a company that produced as its product sovereign money for a first world country, I promise I wont use it for my personal use....as long as you promise to NEVER check on my books...DEAL.
;D
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Please correct the title of this thread as it should read
Is the Federal Reserve privately pwn3d?
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Please correct the title of this thread as it should read
Is the Federal Reserve privately pwn3d?
:D
TA avoiding this thread like the plague :)
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My youtube video's was not biased or based on opinions, they were what goes on in court at that level proving that the federal reserve is privately owned and that the government does not have control over it nor does it have access to documentations or anything.
Who owns it?
And doesn't the Fed give its profits to the US Treasury?
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Lol..Who owns it? = thread end.
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Lol..Who owns it? = thread end.
It's a co-op of banks.
Ron, please lock thread.
Thanks
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Who owns it?
And doesn't the Fed give its profits to the US Treasury?
Did you not watch the videos I posted up?, Forget about the profits going to US Treasury they don't even know where the money loaned went let alone where the profits are.
Look into the paper work and you will find trillions unaccounted for, not millions, not billions, but trillions.
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Forget about the profits going to US Treasury they don't even know where the money loaned went let alone where the profits are.
Look into the paper work and you will find trillions unaccounted for, not millions, not billions, but trillions.
I don't watch youtube videos that are produced by people with an agenda.
Who owns the Fed?
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Forget about the profits going to US Treasury they don't even know where the money loaned went let alone where the profits are.
Look into the paper work and you will find trillions unaccounted for, not millions, not billions, but trillions.
I don't watch youtube videos that are produced by people with an agenda.
Who owns the Fed?
Can't argue with stupid.....
here's a picture sorry its not in crayon.
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Forget about the profits going to US Treasury they don't even know where the money loaned went let alone where the profits are.
Look into the paper work and you will find trillions unaccounted for, not millions, not billions, but trillions.
I don't watch youtube videos that are produced by people with an agenda.
Who owns the Fed?
The video is about a hearing in court, don't be a fool, how are you going to expect an answer when you don't want to watch the videos that show the answer, what the fuck do I look like to you, a fucken servant, wow, talk about stubborn.
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source of the graph please.
Aren't they just banks who are members of the federal reserve?
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source of the graph please.
Take it or leave it but stop the retardedness, seriously, why the fuck would anyone invent a graph like this,
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Take it or leave it but stop the retardedness, seriously, why the fuck would anyone invent a graph like this,
dont feed the troll
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the graph is a list of the member banks of the FED
What has it got to do with who owns it?
I notice you dodged the question again
Who owns the FED?
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dont feed the troll
Personal attacks again.
I thought you were done posting about me?
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the graph is a list of the member banks of the FED
What has it got to do with who owns it?
I notice you dodged the question again
Who owns the FED?
This is like asking who owns the senate you ding dong. The fed is not Walmart FFS, it's a group of people who make decisions and the chairman of this group is Ben Bernenke and the people on the board are all corporations and bankers, wooooooooosh
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Can't argue with stupid.....
here's a picture sorry its not in crayon.
lol at "Others" owning the lions share. Why not just put Israel there which would at least be honest.
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I want to be a paper stackin Jew aswell if thats alright with the hiearchy ???
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I want to be a paper stackin Jew aswell if thats alright with the hiearchy ???
Sorry all full....get in line like the rest of us.
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This is like asking who owns the senate you ding dong. The fed is not Walmart FFS, it's a group of people who make decisions and the chairman of this group is Ben Bernenke and the people on the board are all corporations and bankers, wooooooooosh
So you dont know who owns it yet you claim it's privately owned?
Does anyone know who owns it?
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So you dont know who owns it yet you claim it's privately owned?
Does anyone know who owns it?
FFS seriously you are relentlessly dumb and no I am not beefing with you.
When people say privately owned they don't mean actually owned, they mean is it controlled by the government or not, ''privately owned is a term. It is a group that make decisions like the US Senate or like The Vatican, there is no such a thing as an owner. There is stocks owned by people and corporations but not an individual ownership just control.
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The Federal Banking Agency Audit Act, enacted in 1978 as Public Law 95-320 and 31 U.S.C. section 714 establish that the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System and the Federal Reserve banks may be audited by the Government Accountability Office (GAO).[40] The GAO has authority to audit check-processing, currency storage and shipments, and some regulatory and bank examination functions, however there are restrictions to what the GAO may audit. Audits of the Reserve Board and Federal Reserve banks may not include:
transactions for or with a foreign central bank or government, or nonprivate international financing organization;
deliberations, decisions, or actions on monetary policy matters;
transactions made under the direction of the Federal Open Market Committee; or
a part of a discussion or communication among or between members of the Board of Governors and officers and employees of the Federal Reserve System related to items (1), (2), or (3).
So really they can audit.......Nothing of importance.
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FFS seriously you are relentlessly dumb and no I am not beefing with you.
When people say privately owned they don't mean actually owned, they mean is it controlled by the government or not, ''privately owned is a term. It is a group that make decisions like the US Senate or like The Vatican, there is no such a thing as an owner. There is stocks owned by people and corporations but not an individual ownership just control.
So the answer to the OP is "No"
I dont know why it took 6 pages to get there.
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So the answer to the OP is "No"
I dont know why it took 6 pages to get there.
If you want to get technical, but you know full well that is not what he meant, stop playing dumb, what he meant is; does the government run it or do the rich bankers run it" and the answer is ''privately owned'' as in the term ''privately owned'' not literally owned like the way someone would own a store.
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So the federal reserve that deals with the issue and control of currency is run and controlled by bankers.
I fail to see the issue?
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So the federal reserve that deals with the issue and control of currency is run and controlled by bankers.
I fail to see the issue?
Troll some more, I guess we are back to square one right? fine with me. ;)
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Im not trolling you, Im trying to find out if the FED was owned by anyone, I couldn't find any evidence myself so I asked questions.
It appears after all the back and forth it isn't owned after all.
So now the question remains who better to run the federal reserve bank than bankers.
Stop taking it personal
And try and think for yourself rather than being influenced by others. ;)
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Troll some more, I guess we are back to square one right? fine with me. ;)
You can't undo ukjeff's Stockholm syndrome in one sitting on GetBig....and honestly I wouldn't expect a queen lover to understand.
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Im not trolling you, Im trying to find out if the FED was owned by anyone, I couldn't find any evidence myself so I asked questions.
It appears after all the back and forth it isn't owned after all.
So now the question remains who better to run the federal reserve bank than bankers.
Stop taking it personal
And try and think for yourself rather than being influenced by others. ;)
I am not being influenced by anyone and I seriously am thinking you are trolling cause you only made me repeat myself ten times
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Im not trolling you, Im trying to find out if the FED was owned by anyone, I couldn't find any evidence myself so I asked questions.
It appears after all the back and forth it isn't owned after all.
So now the question remains who better to run the federal reserve bank than bankers.
Stop taking it personal
And try and think for yourself rather than being influenced by others. ;)
Fed is owned my intelligent mice created after eating GMO foods....I have proof but you have to be bottomed by Tbombz's for me to show you....it's a security measure created by GetBigs secret WEJ society.
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You can't undo ukjeff's Stockholm syndrome in one sitting on GetBig
That works both ways.
Are you a member on David Ickes forum?
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Im not trolling you, Im trying to find out if the FED was owned by anyone, I couldn't find any evidence myself so I asked questions.
It appears after all the back and forth it isn't owned after all.
So now the question remains who better to run the federal reserve bank than bankers.
Stop taking it personal
And try and think for yourself rather than being influenced by others. ;)
Now to answer your question. The government would run it better obviously cause they would monitor it better and only a few million would go missing here and there versus trillions that have gone missing in the hands of the bankers
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That works both ways.
Are you a member on David Ickes forum?
Sleep......the federal reserve is government and it loves you, be happy....sleep sleep sleeeeeeeeeep
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Look at Irongrip!! Another 100+ thread? Father is proud ;)
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They don't lift.
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hey you moron, no foreign bank own an fed reserve bank ::)
Hey dumb fuck stick, isn't there a filthy whore from Nigeria that should be sucking your little dick right now? Leave this conversation to grownups. You act like you're part of the elite club when you're not. Stop trying to defend the scum.
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so, the american govt is severly overspending and taking loans for that, the american population caused a housing bubble, and many are in debt, living on debt.
and somehow, in the land of the alegedly self responsible with best form of governance, the people blame the fedral reserve.
now ive heard it all.
You don't know what you're talking about.
"Clinton, however, sowed the seeds of the Great Recession by helping to inflate the housing bubble, a key part of the financial debacle of 2007. But this wasn’t because he (not George W. Bush) signed two financial deregulation bills. Although Clinton legalized interstate banking in 1994 and commercial/investment banking combinations in 1999, that had nothing to do with the meltdown.
Then why is Clinton culpable? Because his secretary of housing and urban development, Andrew Cuomo, current governor of New York and a likely 2016 presidential aspirant, accelerated easy-housing policies and inflated the housing bubble, setting the stage for its collapse."
http://reason.com/archives/2012/10/14/clintons-legacy-the-financial-and-housin (http://reason.com/archives/2012/10/14/clintons-legacy-the-financial-and-housin)
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Now to answer your question. The government would run it better obviously cause they would monitor it better and only a few million would go missing here and there versus trillions that have gone missing in the hands of the bankers
The government would run it better by only syphoning off a few million as opposed to a trillion???
Are you sure about that, when "people" get involved its only a matter of time before greed gets the better of them.(Google Ring of Gyges)
Strange you accept the government being corrupt (but only a bit) but not the bankers.
Galeniko is right, its the greed of the people that gets a countries finances in the mire.
Oh and the good old USA is one of the most powerful countries in the financial world, with one of the highest standars of living, hardly seems possible that they are not "doing it right" does it.
And as for the "inevitable collapse" you seem to think these guys are clever and stupid all at the same time, clever enough to steal trillions of dollars and dumb enough to let it collapse and make their trillions worthless.
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The government would run it better by only syphoning off a few million as opposed to a trillion???
Are you sure about that, when "people" get involved its only a matter of time before greed gets the better of them.(Google Ring of Gyges)
Strange you accept the government being corrupt (but only a bit) but not the bankers.
Galeniko is right, its the greed of the people that gets a countries finances in the mire.
Oh and the good old USA is one of the most powerful countries in the financial world, with one of the highest standars of living, hardly seems possible that they are not "doing it right" does it.
And as for the "inevitable collapse" you seem to think these guys are clever and stupid all at the same time, clever enough to steal trillions of dollars and dumb enough to let it collapse and make their trillions worthless.
Can you possibly get any dumber ???
Seriously ??? you just showed the entire world here that your I q is that of a peanut.
Their money does not stay in America you imbecile it gets put to use in banks around the World, in the industrial complex and the mining of commodities. Only a fucken retard would leave a billion dollars in a US bank if the economy is going to collapse. They would convert their funds to euro's or Yens or anything but US currency, better yet they will convert their money to gold, either way there is a million ways around this you complete imbecile, sorry but your post was on par with that of A GRADE 3
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Now as far the government doing it better, of course they would not get away with as much. People scheme off the top of course that will never change but now there would be consequences, jail time for fraud and 100 times more paper trail then there is today with the bankers running the show. Yes millions will be lost, that is unavoidable but a small fraction only of what the bankers take now.
UKJEFF do us a favor and stay out of this, you are the least knowledgeable with this and have NO CLUE WHATSOEVER of what you are talking about, let the big boys talk
Oh BTW I don't accept either being corrupt you ding dong but it's called ''picking the lesser of 2 evils"
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http://www.infowars.com/world-bank-insider-blows-whistle-on-corruption-federal-reserve/ federal reserve privately owned, one of elite bankers blows cover
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What a fun thread... who'd have thought that so many people would have an IQ equivalent to "sloughed off hemorrhoid"! And on the Internet of all places!