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Is the Federal Reserve privately owned?
« on: May 20, 2013, 06:36:48 PM »
If you google it, there are many answers, some saying it's a cartel of private bankers etc. Can some of you non conspiracy theorists or neutral parties answer this?  Wiggs, you need not answer, I know where you fall in this category. 

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Re: Is the Federal Reserve privately owned?
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2013, 06:41:48 PM »
No, your money is as legit as the perishables it currently purchases. 

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Re: Is the Federal Reserve privately owned?
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2013, 06:45:31 PM »
Non governmental bank that (technically) answers to the US congress.

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Re: Is the Federal Reserve privately owned?
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2013, 06:52:44 PM »
It's as Federal as Federal Express...read the beast of Jekyll island.

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Re: Is the Federal Reserve privately owned?
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2013, 08:01:20 PM »
it returns all extra surplus revenue(minus wages) to the treasury.

so from economical perspective, thats hardly private.

i mean which private businessman would have interest engaging in this business, under these circumstances.




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Re: Is the Federal Reserve privately owned?
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2013, 08:17:34 PM »
The federal reserve is a private bank of the elite it's controlled by the rothschilds and Rockefellers if you want to know the answers YouTube an animated 30 minute movie named the American dream, all your answers will be found in that 30 minute movie, and I have no idea why you would ask conspiracy theorists not to answer, haven't you realized that there's no longer such thing as conspiracy theorist since everything the ct reveal is factual reality, it's the masses and opponents of ct that refuse to reveal the truths or believe the truths, in shirt the federal reserve is the private bank of the elite which is used to enslave America

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Re: Is the Federal Reserve privately owned?
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2013, 08:19:23 PM »
The federal reserve is a private bank of the elite it's controlled by the rothschilds and Rockefellers if you want to know the answers YouTube an animated 30 minute movie named the American dream, all your answers will be found in that 30 minute movie, and I have no idea why you would ask conspiracy theorists not to answer, haven't you realized that there's no longer such thing as conspiracy theorist since everything the ct reveal is factual reality, it's the masses and opponents of ct that refuse to reveal the truths or believe the truths, in shirt the federal reserve is the private bank of the elite which is used to enslave America
Galeniko, you want to handle this one?  :D

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Re: Is the Federal Reserve privately owned?
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2013, 09:03:20 PM »
The federal reserve is a private bank that loans the people's wealth back to them at interest....after we gave them the "credit" to do so.

or to put it more eloquently..."The only way to comprehend what mathematicians mean by Infinity is to contemplate the extent of human stupidity." -- Voltaire

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Re: Is the Federal Reserve privately owned?
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2013, 10:02:21 PM »
I confess. I own it.

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Re: Is the Federal Reserve privately owned?
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2013, 10:05:12 PM »
Oh shit here we go,  ;D 

I am going to sit this one out, I have been feuding way to much lately, burnt out from battling all those gimmicks that flood the board as of late.

maybe next one  :D ;)

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Re: Is the Federal Reserve privately owned?
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2013, 10:45:59 PM »
Oh shit here we go,  ;D 

I am going to sit this one out, I have been feuding way to much lately, burnt out from battling all those gimmicks that flood the board as of late.

maybe next one  :D ;)

What side are you on broseph?  I admit I'm still somewhere in the middle...

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Re: Is the Federal Reserve privately owned?
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2013, 10:54:26 PM »
im sorry brother, but that book is full of lies and was severly debunked.

How was it debunked? Sources?

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Re: Is the Federal Reserve privately owned?
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Re: Is the Federal Reserve privately owned?
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2013, 12:38:22 AM »


The federal reserve is essentially a private institution and it is quite complex (see below), but it does serve the elites and keeps the poor poor.  Basically under the gold standard, because there was real backing behind your money, essentially gold bars, the value of you money stayed constant, so the $100 you earned today would still be worth $100 in 10 years.  Unlike the current system, where the FED is constantly manipulating the value of money by over and under supply and interest rate changes leading to ridiculous bubbles and crashes and sky high inflation.  Essentially the $100 you earn today will be worth $20 ten years from now encouraging you to spend your money before it becomes worthless.  This is good for stimulating economies, but bad if you don't want to have to work forever to stay afloat.

Imagine you had more than enough money (Big bankers and corporations) and weren't effected by these spikes in the market and you could manipulate things so that the value of other peoples assets (like their homes) would become worth a lot less than they currently are.  You could foreclose on their loans and buy up their assets for a fraction of what they are worth.  You then manipulate the market back in the other direction and make large profits on your newly acquired budget priced assets.  The old cliché of "Buy Low - Sell High" is easy to do when you (The federal reserve) are the one responsible for the highs and lows.

I am trying to think of a reliable metaphor, but those who control the money supply hold a great deal of power over those at the middle to lower end of the financial spectrum.  People like to think the federal reserve has the peoples best interests at heart, but don't be fooled they are only doing what is best for them, if sending everyone near broke and working 60 hours a week is in their best interests, than that's what they will create.  And that's exactly what they have done.

1. The Fed is privately owned.

Its shareholders are private banks. In fact, 100% of its shareholders are private banks. None of its stock is owned by the government.

2. The fact that the Fed does not get “appropriations” from Congress basically means that it gets its money from Congress without congressional approval, by engaging in “open market operations.”

Here is how it works: When the government is short of funds, the Treasury issues bonds and delivers them to bond dealers, which auction them off. When the Fed wants to “expand the money supply” (create money), it steps in and buys bonds from these dealers with newly-issued dollars acquired by the Fed for the cost of writing them into an account on a computer screen. These maneuvers are called “open market operations” because the Fed buys the bonds on the “open market” from the bond dealers. The bonds then become the “reserves” that the banking establishment uses to back its loans. In another bit of sleight of hand known as “fractional reserve” lending, the same reserves are lent many times over, further expanding the money supply, generating interest for the banks with each loan. It was this money-creating process that prompted Wright Patman, Chairman of the House Banking and Currency Committee in the 1960s, to call the Federal Reserve “a total money-making machine.” He wrote:

“When the Federal Reserve writes a check for a government bond it does exactly what any bank does, it creates money, it created money purely and simply by writing a check.”

3. The Fed generates profits for its shareholders.

The interest on bonds acquired with its newly-issued Federal Reserve Notes pays the Fed’s operating expenses plus a guaranteed 6% return to its banker shareholders. A mere 6% a year may not be considered a profit in the world of Wall Street high finance, but most businesses that manage to cover all their expenses and give their shareholders a guaranteed 6% return are considered “for profit” corporations.

In addition to this guaranteed 6%, the banks will now be getting interest from the taxpayers on their “reserves.” The basic reserve requirement set by the Federal Reserve is 10%. The website of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York explains that as money is redeposited and relent throughout the banking system, this 10% held in “reserve” can be fanned into ten times that sum in loans; that is, $10,000 in reserves becomes $100,000 in loans. Federal Reserve Statistical Release H.8 puts the total “loans and leases in bank credit” as of September 24, 2008 at $7,049 billion. Ten percent of that is $700 billion. That means we the taxpayers will be paying interest to the banks on at least $700 billion annually – this so that the banks can retain the reserves to accumulate interest on ten times that sum in loans.

The banks earn these returns from the taxpayers for the privilege of having the banks’ interests protected by an all-powerful independent private central bank, even when those interests may be opposed to the taxpayers’ — for example, when the banks use their special status as private money creators to fund speculative derivative schemes that threaten to collapse the U.S. economy. Among other special benefits, banks and other financial institutions (but not other corporations) can borrow at the low Fed funds rate of about 2%. They can then turn around and put this money into 30-year Treasury bonds at 4.5%, earning an immediate 2.5% from the taxpayers, just by virtue of their position as favored banks. A long list of banks (but not other corporations) is also now protected from the short selling that can crash the price of other stocks.

If the Fed were actually a federal agency, the government could issue U.S. legal tender directly, avoiding an unnecessary interest-bearing debt to private middlemen who create the money out of thin air themselves. Among other benefits to the taxpayers. a truly “federal” Federal Reserve could lend the full faith and credit of the United States to state and local governments interest-free, cutting the cost of infrastructure in half, restoring the thriving local economies of earlier decades.
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Re: Is the Federal Reserve privately owned?
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2013, 01:07:43 AM »
So the POLICE and the  Fed  Bank rep both say it is PRIVATE PROPERTY.  So how is that govt owned?



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Re: Is the Federal Reserve privately owned?
« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2013, 01:14:58 AM »
Is it true American taxpayers pay INTEREST to the Federal Reserve, on the bank bailout money they gave the federal reserve?

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Re: Is the Federal Reserve privately owned?
« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2013, 06:23:50 AM »
Is it true American taxpayers pay INTEREST to the Federal Reserve, on the bank bailout money they gave the federal reserve?

It's even better than that.  Not only do we have to pay interest to this private enterprise on our own wealth that they priviledge us with access too but because Congress made the Federal Reserve note the only acceptable payment of all debt (read the fine print on your fiat notes)...we have to BORROW the money from the Fed to pay this interest!  Of course we have to pay new interest on the money we just borrowed to pay that interest...which means we'll have to borrow new money to pay the interest on the money we just borrowed to pay that interest...which means that we'll have to borrow new money to pay the interest on the money we just borrowed to pay that interest...which means that we'll have to borrow new money to pay the interest on the money we just borrowed to pay that interest...which means that we'll have to borrow new money to pay the interest on the money we just borrowed to pay that interest...which means that we will never pay off the "national debt" and the currency supply will always increase to service this new debt which means an increase in the supply of money" will ALWAYS increase, which means the value of the "currency" you labor hard to earn will ALWAYS lose value.

Fantastic eh?

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Re: Is the Federal Reserve privately owned?
« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2013, 07:28:43 AM »
How is it owned by the Rothschild and Rockefeller families? What's the ct on those families? Is it tied into the illuminati? ???

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Re: Is the Federal Reserve privately owned?
« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2013, 07:34:30 AM »
The Fed reserve is JEW owned

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Re: Is the Federal Reserve privately owned?
« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2013, 07:52:19 AM »
Adonis and galeniko know nothing about the federal reserve and just because a movie an animated movie at that tells the story of the fed, I guess You two monkeys attention spans are too small and your brainwashed so bad you can't even watch to learn something, Adonis your an obamanoid sheepleite

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Re: Is the Federal Reserve privately owned?
« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2013, 07:54:01 AM »
Adonis and galeniko know nothing about the federal reserve and just because a movie an animated movie at that tells the story of the fed, I guess. You two monkeys attention spans are too small and your brainwashed so bad you can't even watch to learn something, Adonis your an obama pod sheepleite

It seems so.  They bash your statements, but provide nothing of substance to support their own ideas.

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Re: Is the Federal Reserve privately owned?
« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2013, 07:59:34 AM »
hey adonis and galeniko, heres a 30 minute animated movie, ohh but it was posted on youtube, and it gives the reasons for the destroyed world economy, why your broke, and what the role the federal reserve plays in it all, if you can watch a 30 minute cartoon maybe i will take you more serious, and you might actually learn something, heres the link know it all assmen........... 
ohh and it also provides the answers of the rockefellers and rothschilds role in the banking system and federal reserve, enjoy studs, galeniko and obanis

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Re: Is the Federal Reserve privately owned?
« Reply #22 on: May 21, 2013, 08:06:37 AM »
hey adonis and galeniko, heres a 30 minute animated movie, ohh but it was posted on youtube, and it gives the reasons for the destroyed world economy, why your broke, and what the role the federal reserve plays in it all, if you can watch a 30 minute cartoon maybe i will take you more serious, and you might actually learn something, heres the link know it all assmen........... 
ohh and it also provides the answers of the rockefellers and rothschilds role in the banking system and federal reserve, enjoy studs, galeniko and obanis
I prefer to watch the Youtube video of Cswol Benching 225 for 50 0 instead.


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Re: Is the Federal Reserve privately owned?
« Reply #23 on: May 21, 2013, 08:06:54 AM »
BBD, you know bottom line galeniko and adonis are haterz, they cant stand being wrong or told they are brainwashed monkeys, and then when you prove them wrong with factual evidence they merely resort to bashing and name calling like little kids, somewhere reveling in their mind what are they to do because their contributions to the antiquated systems of made up illusory materialism has them enslaved mind body and soul, and its such a horrible shock to their minds for a smart awake person to actually throw the pie in their face, they cant even take it like men, what girlymen arnold said they were.

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Re: Is the Federal Reserve privately owned?
« Reply #24 on: May 21, 2013, 08:07:46 AM »
last monday i hit my chest aka resting the weight and bar on your chest bench press and got 40 reps