Getbig Bodybuilding, Figure and Fitness Forums
Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Roger Bacon on May 28, 2013, 01:04:05 PM
-
I'm having knee pain and I never have before. I'm doing lots of squats recently, and I'm also spending a lot of time jumping on my baby mamas trampoline.
???
Woke up this morning and it hurt whenever I put my knees all the way straight. I had to walk without straightening my legs all the way out like a fucking velociraptor all day.
-
sorry, can someone move this to G&O :-[ :-[ :-[
-
why should we move it? it's obviously George Bush's fault.
-
why should we move it? it's obviously George Bush's fault.
I was going to blame the Republicans, but chickened out because George Whorewell is back and I didn't want to be owned! :-[ :-[
This is embarrassing, I don't like to cross my G&O and Political Board Personas.
-
The older I get, the less my knees tolerate moderate to heavy leg training. I found 2-3 tablespoons of Flax oil a day to be very beneficial for aging joints.
-
In no particular order: lose weight, work on hip mobility and flexibility, stretch your hams.
-
In no particular order: lose weight, work on hip mobility and flexibility, stretch your hams.
My only problem there is extremely tight hamstrings. I'm young, so I just wonder why this would happen.
I don't know for sure that they're tight, but I can barely touch my toes with my legs straight. I work them hard
-
My only problem there is extremely tight hamstrings. I'm young, so I just wonder why this would happen.
I don't know for sure that they're tight, but I can barely touch my toes with my legs straight. I work them hard
I know from experience. Hips, hams, glutes, knees and lower back all work together to fuck you up. In my case, it was tight hips and low hip mobility. Low back pain, hip tightness and knee pain were my symptoms. I started working the foam roller on these areas, worked on flexibility in my hips, and loosening of my IT band on the right side. I also started dragging the weighted sled a lot.
My tightness and lack of flexibility led to an imbalance which led to weakness on one side, which caused my back pain and knee pain. Getting back to neutral was key before anything else.
Along the way, I discovered that everything that I "knew" about training and diet (and gear) was completely wrong.
Age has nothing to do with it. Get yourself to neutral. You may need to find a COMPETENT trainer (i.e not some jamoke off the Internet) to watch you workout. You'd be surprised how much a real expert sees that we no longer are capable of seeing.
Good luck.
-
I know from experience. Hips, hams, glutes, knees and lower back all work together to fuck you up. In my case, it was tight hips and low hip mobility. Low back pain, hip tightness and knee pain were my symptoms. I started working the foam roller on these areas, worked on flexibility in my hips, and loosening of my IT band on the right side. I also started dragging the weighted sled a lot.
My tightness and lack of flexibility led to an imbalance which led to weakness on one side, which caused my back pain and knee pain. Getting back to neutral was key before anything else.
Along the way, I discovered that everything that I "knew" about training and diet (and gear) was completely wrong.
Age has nothing to do with it. Get yourself to neutral. You may need to find a COMPETENT trainer (i.e not some jamoke off the Internet) to watch you workout. You'd be surprised how much a real expert sees that we no longer are capable of seeing.
Good luck.
Thank you sir, very much appreciated... I'll look into it!
-
I know from experience. Hips, hams, glutes, knees and lower back all work together to fuck you up. In my case, it was tight hips and low hip mobility. Low back pain, hip tightness and knee pain were my symptoms. I started working the foam roller on these areas, worked on flexibility in my hips, and loosening of my IT band on the right side. I also started dragging the weighted sled a lot.
My tightness and lack of flexibility led to an imbalance which led to weakness on one side, which caused my back pain and knee pain. Getting back to neutral was key before anything else.
Along the way, I discovered that everything that I "knew" about training and diet (and gear) was completely wrong.
Age has nothing to do with it. Get yourself to neutral. You may need to find a COMPETENT trainer (i.e not some jamoke off the Internet) to watch you workout. You'd be surprised how much a real expert sees that we no longer are capable of seeing.
Good luck.
Yes, hindsight is always 20/20. I so wish I would have done the things I do now back about 10 - 15yrs ago. Also, learning to squat with shins at or slights beyond perpendicular to the ground so that I activate the posterior chain more. Cycling the 'de load' type of weeks into my training.
-
Check out www.mobilitywod.com. Saved my body for lifting. I was pretty dumb to it all, but he has a search tool, type in the problem area and there will be a bunch of videos showing you ways to open up.
-
checking your hydration and fats are key to prevention and maintenance of the human body
-
High rep squatting or almost high rep anything is eventually a overuse problem. Drop the volume, squat parallel or below, train the complete posterior chain and you save your knees. Deload every 4th week.
-
Check out www.mobilitywod.com. Saved my body for lifting. I was pretty dumb to it all, but he has a search tool, type in the problem area and there will be a bunch of videos showing you ways to open up.
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DO NOT PUT UP ANY CF STUFF.....Holy Shit balls....you realize what Coach is going to do??? ((heading for my panic room))
P.S. Kelly Starette's book is pretty damn good.
-
Yes, hindsight is always 20/20. I so wish I would have done the things I do now back about 10 - 15yrs ago. Also, learning to squat with shins at or slights beyond perpendicular to the ground so that I activate the posterior chain more. Cycling the 'de load' type of weeks into my training.
Don't I know it. I discovered more solid training and diet info in the last year and a half than the previous 29 years of training combined. If only I knew back then...
Once I broke myself out of my rut, admitted that I didn't know shit and crawled into a great gym for advice, my training turned around. Haven't looked back since.
And there is a lot of solid advice here too. Even on G&O.
-
I'm having knee pain and I never have before. I'm doing lots of squats recently, and I'm also spending a lot of time jumping on my baby mamas trampoline.
???
Woke up this morning and it hurt whenever I put my knees all the way straight. I had to walk without straightening my legs all the way out like a fucking velociraptor all day.
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_repair/18_tips_for_bulletproof_knees
-
go very easy on them, full rom, little weight,if it hurts, take a break.
i have knee issues myself, fuck how it sucks :-X
fish oil fo ye
-
Front squats hurt my knees a little, so I only do them every other week or so. Glucosomine helps a little, but it takes a few weeks to really tell the difference. You can try wearing a knee sleeve or wraps. Always make sure to warm up. Stretches for the quads and hips help as well. Knee pain sucks. Good luck.
-
When is the last time you got new w/o shoes?
-
Wear the compression knee sleeves - they help a lot
-
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DO NOT PUT UP ANY CF STUFF.....Holy Shit balls....you realize what Coach is going to do??? ((heading for my panic room))
P.S. Kelly Starette's book is pretty damn good.
Enough already. I like Starette. But he's been taking a lot of critisism from other PT's on the performbetter circuit for some his methods by both Weingroff and Boyle. I have no problem with him.
-
Enough already. I like Starette. But he's been taking a lot of critisism from other PT's on the performbetter circuit for some his methods by both Weingroff and Boyle. I have no problem with him.
You first Joe. Recall my "not this shit again" post?
-
You first Joe. Recall my "not this shit again" post?
It wasn't a blanket statement and you know it. But let's face it. The business plan is genius, the program not very well thought out. It's getting better though because so many real coaches and trainers have been calling them out.
-
maybe jumpers knee. if you're unlucky it's damaged/degenerated cartilage in the kneejoint. only a specialized doctor and MRI can tell.
anyways see if stretching the quads helps. foam rolling and massage aswell. also look over your squat technique and dont go too heavy. using more hips and glutes is okay. stresses the kneejoint less. and stay away from legs for a month and start using less weight.
-
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_repair/18_tips_for_bulletproof_knees
go very easy on them, full rom, little weight,if it hurts, take a break.
i have knee issues myself, fuck how it sucks :-X
Front squats hurt my knees a little, so I only do them every other week or so. Glucosomine helps a little, but it takes a few weeks to really tell the difference. You can try wearing a knee sleeve or wraps. Always make sure to warm up. Stretches for the quads and hips help as well. Knee pain sucks. Good luck.
Yes, Thanks!
When is the last time you got new w/o shoes?
I only bought Adidas Sambas for like four years, but I just recently purchased some kind of Nike shoes. Hmmm....
maybe jumpers knee. if you're unlucky it's damaged/degenerated cartilage in the kneejoint. only a specialized doctor and MRI can tell.
anyways see if stretching the quads helps. foam rolling and massage aswell. also look over your squat technique and dont go too heavy. using more hips and glutes is okay. stresses the kneejoint less. and stay away from legs for a month and start using less weight.
Scary, thanks... I'm googling it
Woke up with sore knees again this morning and I didn't even do anything to them yesterday.
-
I dont go nearly as heavy as I used to and notice no real difference whatsoever in size and conditioning, etc.
Through my back out a few times and dont want an injury.
At a certain point - the risk reward factor tips against any benefits from going ridiculous heavy.
-
It wasn't a blanket statement and you know it. But let's face it. The business plan is genius, the program not very well thought out. It's getting better though because so many real coaches and trainers have been calling them out.
The comment you made was more in jest than in malice I recognized that, that was my intention. Understand that it wasn't just "real" coaches. It was the trainees seeking out more informed people. The bad will get weeded out (for the most part). There are shitty S&C coaches...and to think there isn't is just being naive.
-
I'm having knee pain and I never have before. I'm doing lots of squats recently, and I'm also spending a lot of time jumping on my baby mamas trampoline.
???
Woke up this morning and it hurt whenever I put my knees all the way straight. I had to walk without straightening my legs all the way out like a fucking velociraptor all day.
.
my knee's hurt when i don't squat on a regular basis. record your squats from the side so we can see your technique.
-
.
my knee's hurt when i don't squat on a regular basis. record your squats from the side so we The Coach can see your technique.
FIFY.
-
The comment you made was more in jest than in malice I recognized that, that was my intention. Understand that it wasn't just "real" coaches. It was the trainees seeking out more informed people. The bad will get weeded out (for the most part). There are shitty S&C coaches...and to think there isn't is just being naive.
Yes..and those are also the one's that get fired asap. Pretty hard to find a bad S&C coach at the D1-3 college or pro level. BTW, if our baseball team wins this Friday night, this will be my fourth CIF win in three different sports from teams I was a strength coach on at the high school D1 level.
*Shameless plug* :D
-
Yes..and those are also the one's that get fired asap. Pretty hard to find a bad S&C coach at the D1-3 college or pro level. BTW, if our baseball team wins this Friday night, this will be my fourth CIF win in three different sports from teams I was a strength coach on at the high school D1 level.
*Shameless plug* :D
Pretty hard? I wouldn't go that far. Oh, and congrats...I think they are doing better thanks to you incorporating more met-con days ;)
-
High rep squatting or almost high rep anything is eventually a overuse problem. Drop the volume, squat parallel or below, train the complete posterior chain and you save your knees. Deload every 4th week.
Good advice. I always try to squat fairly deep. Keep doing a limit range of motion and you lose flexibility. You actually set yourself up for an injury. You're increasing the strength in the strongest range of motion and neglecting the weakest range. Controlled deep squats have kept my knees healthy. High reps can contribute to over use injuries. Leg extensions is something you shouldn't do if you have knee pain.
-
One of the best things I have ever done for my knees was when I switched to box squats 6-7 years ago.
-
One of the best things I have ever done for my knees was when I switched to box squats 6-7 years ago.
Want to hear something weird? When I do box squats for the next two days my knees are trashed.
On a side note Joe...do you have some good info on improving the front rack position for C&J's? There are some good videos from Starrett, but I just don't know what the problem is for me.
1) I can front squat with arms stright out in front of me (bar resting on the shoulders) my back is upright, I drop the ass down to meet the calves. Everything feels good.
2) When I attempt to get the arms back in the receiving position, I end up with the immense wrist pain (from the extreme extension) and I don't even get my humerus close to parallel to the ground. Really getting on my nerves. I am wondering if my elbows and shoulders are the limiting factor here.
-
Want to hear something weird? When I do box squats for the next two days my knees are trashed.
On a side note Joe...do you have some good info on improving the front rack position for C&J's? There are some good videos from Starrett, but I just don't know what the problem is for me.
On the C&J you don't have to go into a full rack catch, on that particular lift, it's ok to drop the elbows a little. Going into a full rack with the bar resting on your finger tips makes it difficult to transition and drop below the bar. Remember, your not pressing, your dropping.
1) I can front squat with arms stright out in front of me (bar resting on the shoulders) my back is upright, I drop the ass down to meet the calves. Everything feels good.
2) When I attempt to get the arms back in the receiving position, I end up with the immense wrist pain (from the extreme extension) and I don't even get my humerus close to parallel to the ground. Really getting on my nerves. I am wondering if my elbows and shoulders are the limiting factor here.
See my above answer. As far as the wrists being uncomfortable, we do a wrist stretch by getting down on all fours and turning the wrists (hands) backwards on the floor and leaning back. It helps to condition the wrists. Also, just have to get used to it but just use the bar only for now.
-
High rep squatting or almost high rep anything is eventually a overuse problem. Drop the volume, squat parallel or below, train the complete posterior chain and you save your knees. Deload every 4th week.
Thank you sir, sorry I missed this comment originally!
-
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_repair/18_tips_for_bulletproof_knees
Bulletproof Knees (the book) is an excellent resource. I picked it up a few years ago; lots of great info. Mike Robertson has a pretty good email newsletter, and he often posts sales on his publications.
-
I was reading some things on patello-femoral syndrome yesterday. After doing some tests I suspected a medially tracking patella, so I took some kinesiotape and brought it a little more lateral. Went to the gym and worked on some overhead squats. Amazing, the knee pain never showed up. Did some regular squats after that with sets of 10 and there was some knee pain, but no where near what there was before.
Couple of things also to look at for your squatting:
1) Where are your elbows when you squat?
2) How good is your thoracic spine when it comes to mobility?
3) Do you rock forward on your toes (slightly) on the ascent or do you feel yourself 'pushing' with your whole foot?
-
If you do "parallel squats" that could explain everything. Go ass to grass.
Drop the weight but do not up the reps, just add more sets if needed.
Go to physiotherapist.
Stretch your quads and hams.