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Everyone brags about ground game. They say 90% of fights go to the ground, thus you must learn BJJ. I'm happy to be part the remaining 10% that punches or kicks an assailants head off his shoulders and ends it there. That's Karate, or traditional TKD. I've got news: you go to the ground in a bar, in prison, in warfare, in the streets, you're DEAD F'N MEAT. I could see adding some Judo into the mix, but you must understand: Street fights are not UFC. You will be f'd up by an assailants partners if you go to the ground. The Gracies lined up weak Karate guys to sell BJJ via Royce and the UFC.
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you dont want to pull guard in the streetz :P
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Everyone brags about ground game. They say 90% of fights go to the ground, thus you must learn BJJ. I'm happy to be part the remaining 10% that punches or kicks an assailants head off his shoulders and ends it there. That's Karate, or traditional TKD. I've got news: you go to the ground in a bar, in prison, in warfare, in the streets, you're DEAD F'N MEAT. I could see adding some Judo into the mix, but you must understand: Street fights are not UFC. You will be f'd up by an assailants partners if you go to the ground. The Gracies lined up weak Karate guys to sell BJJ via Royce and the UFC.
The Gracies had the advantage during the first UFC's but everyone got wise to their game and these invincible Gracies started losing regularly , and the irony is all they had was the ground game and now they were forced to adapt like everyone else and be better strikers.
I recall Helio talking about none of his sons will ever be beat in MMA , at that point Gracies were losing to other BJJ guys , remember Wallid Ismail?
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A 20 year old Mike Tyson would have destroyed any one ot the Gracies. They lined up tomato cans to push UFC and Renzo's schools.
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The Gracies had the advantage during the first UFC's but everyone got wise to their game and these invincible Gracies started losing regularly , and the irony is all they had was the ground game and now they were forced to adapt like everyone else and be better strikers.
I recall Helio talking about none of his sons will ever be beat in MMA , at that point Gracies were losing to other BJJ guys , remember Wallid Ismail?
helio himself lost
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you go to the ground in a bar, in prison, in warfare, in the streets, you're DEAD F'N MEAT.
Great post Hunter
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Karate is a complete waste of time. Greco Roman wrestling is the best.
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Concealed carry is all you need.
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Everyone brags about ground game. They say 90% of fights go to the ground, thus you must learn BJJ. I'm happy to be part the remaining 10% that punches or kicks an assailants head off his shoulders and ends it there. That's Karate, or traditional TKD. I've got news: you go to the ground in a bar, in prison, in warfare, in the streets, you're DEAD F'N MEAT. I could see adding some Judo into the mix, but you must understand: Street fights are not UFC. You will be f'd up by an assailants partners if you go to the ground. The Gracies lined up weak Karate guys to sell BJJ via Royce and the UFC.
This is about as close as you'll get to a puncher and a guy on his back. i'm thinking during the video break someone helped him but who knows?
yeah, 20 yr old tyson kills the guy on his back, if his buddies aren't around.
i'm assuming "1" can fight on his back, and he is an amateur, who trains. would he go to the ground in a nyc street fight on 135th?
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This is about as close as you'll get to a puncher and a guy on his back. i'm thinking during the video break someone helped him but who knows?
yeah, 20 yr old tyson kills the guy on his back, if his buddies aren't around.
i'm assuming "1" can fight on his back, and he is an amateur, who trains. would he go to the ground in a nyc street fight on 135th?
It's actually funny you should say just that, as I once had a street fight right on 135th street and Broadway across the street from "3333" the largest project complex on the corner of 135th. For those that live in the area, it was right in front of that store called "El Mundo", next to the 1-train underpass.
What people have to understand is that Brazilian JiuJitsu is fantastic because if the fight goes to the ground and you have solid skillset, you will likely end up choking the opponent or breaking an arm, leg or ankle.
Now, not every fight goes to the ground. Some guys have solid takedown defense and that's why it is important to have a well-rounded approach to fighting. Before I ever did JiuJitsu, I was boxing (non-pro) for over 20 years. If you combine the two (Boxing + JiuJitsu) you will bring a package that can be devastating to any fight.
In my opinion, someone that has talent with his hands (say a golden glove), paired with solid Muay Thai skills and Purple-Black belt in Brazilian JiuJitsu is practically a nightmare to fight against.
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This is about as close as you'll get to a puncher and a guy on his back. i'm thinking during the video break someone helped him but who knows?
yeah, 20 yr old tyson kills the guy on his back, if his buddies aren't around.
i'm assuming "1" can fight on his back, and he is an amateur, who trains. would he go to the ground in a nyc street fight on 135th?
If the guy on his back had been on his own like the guy on top then he would have been stomped unconscious by the friends of the guy on top.
Its a stupid thing to go to ground in a street fight situation, seldom do other people not get involved.
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If the guy on his back had been on his own like the guy on top then he would have been stomped unconscious by the friends of the guy on top.
Its a stupid thing to go to ground in a street fight situation, seldom do other people not get involved.
Rule #1: If you are alone and a group of 2-3 guys approach to fight you and are not backing down, get the fuck out of there. Even if you are able to neutralize one of them, there will still be two more that will outnumber your limbs. That shit about one guy beating the crap out of 3 or more opponents works great in the movies. Unless you're a ridiculously talented heavyweight with deadly hands that have one-punch knockout power (i.e. Tyson in his prime), I would NOT take a chance. Even then, I would still advise against it.
That said, if it's just two guys fighting (with no outside influence or friends), I would happily take it to the ground and go for a choke. I would much rather roll on the ground and work on getting his arms, legs, ankles, shoulder or neck in trouble, than I would standing up and taking a chance at possibly getting bruised up or stitches.
It all depends on the situation..
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Rule #1: If you are alone and a group of 2-3 guys approach to fight you and are not backing down, get the fuck out of there. Even if you are able to neutralize one of them, there will still be two more that will outnumber your limbs. That shit about one guy beating the crap out of 3 or more opponents works great in the movies. Unless you're a ridiculously talented heavyweight with deadly hands that have one-punch knockout power (i.e. Tyson in his prime), I would NOT take a chance. Even then, I would still advise against it.
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That's funny, given Mike Tyson beat the crap out of 3 guys in a hotel lobby years ago. There's your talent.
I visited 135th many moons ago, but not to buy crack. ;D
I figured you'd have the best answer for a REAL street slug fest, not Swede fantasizing about MMA dominance while hitting a heavy bag in his backyard.
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That's funny, given Mike Tyson beat the crap out of 3 guys in a hotel lobby years ago. There's your talent.
I visited 135th many moons ago, but not to buy crack. ;D
I figured you'd have the best answer for a REAL street slug fest, not Swede fantasizing about MMA dominance while hitting a heavy bag in his backyard.
I try to be honest.
Regardless of someone's level of skill in any discipline, having to face multiple opponents while alone and unarmed is practically impossible. Even if individually you can beat each of those opponents, you just don't have enough eyes, arms and legs to face that many opponents.
When it comes to street fights, I always say that it's best to talk things out and walk away. If you can't walk, run away. If you can't run away, take your chances but go for devastating strikes (to the balls, eyes etc.) and hope that while neutralizing one or two of your opponents you've managed to make enough room for yourself to run your ass out of there.
There is no shame in accepting when you're clearly outnumbered/outmatched. A bruised ego is much better than a bruised face.
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Rule #1: If you are alone and a group of 2-3 guys approach to fight you and are not backing down, get the fuck out of there. Even if you are able to neutralize one of them, there will still be two more that will outnumber your limbs. That shit about one guy beating the crap out of 3 or more opponents works great in the movies. Unless you're a ridiculously talented heavyweight with deadly hands that have one-punch knockout power (i.e. Tyson in his prime), I would NOT take a chance. Even then, I would still advise against it.
I remember watching Enter the Dragon with my dad years ago and during the courtyard fight my dad said, "they only have to take their shoes off and throw them at him and its all over"
I also read Chopper Reid's book about him getting in a bar brawl when he was alone against multiple attackers, he knocked the first one out and then put his fingers in his eye socket and pulled his eye out, dropped it in his beer and drunk it, the rest of the guys backed off. :-X
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I drank with a bloke who for a long time was considered the top man in our area, he was ex army who had no training but was just naturally gifted with his hands.
After a while there was talk of a doorman a big bloke who fought mma and talk was he was new top dog. Well when the two finally met the fight lasted long enough for the "untrained" steetfighters fist to reach the mma guys chin.
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I also read Chopper Reid's book about him getting in a bar brawl when he was alone against multiple attackers, he knocked the first one out and then put his fingers in his eye socket and pulled his eye out, dropped it in his beer and drunk it, the rest of the guys backed off. :-X
Holy shit! :o :o :o
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Yep, who wants to be the next guy getting knocked out after that?
His idea was that if the guys thought he was totally nuts they wouldnt want to chance a fight.
It worked :)
his books are a great read.
Eric Bana did a great job in the movie about him.
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It's not so much that one wants to take a person to the ground. It's just that in real life, in a real street fight, when two men clash violently, it more than likely ends up on the ground.
One of the advantages a submission grappler has in a bar fight is being able to gain an advantages position in the clinch. It's pretty hard to get in those round house kicks and precision punches in a bar or street fight. NOtice in a boxing match when a boxer is in trouble he will clinch or the fighters will clinch anyway during the course of closing the distance and trading blows. Of course in a boxing match, which is a sport, the ref will separate you from the clinch.
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That's Charles Krazy Horse Bennett fighting with Wanderleis BJJ Coach Cristiano Marcello :D
Krazy Horse
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I remember watching Enter the Dragon with my dad years ago and during the courtyard fight my dad said, "they only have to take their shoes off and throw them at him and its all over"
I also read Chopper Reid's book about him getting in a bar brawl when he was alone against multiple attackers, he knocked the first one out and then put his fingers in his eye socket and pulled his eye out, dropped it in his beer and drunk it, the rest of the guys backed off. :-X
Who is Chopper Reid?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chopper_Read
Hes quite a character.
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Who is Chopper Reid?
Eric Bana did a great job in the movie about him.
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Rule #1: If you are alone and a group of 2-3 guys approach to fight you and are not backing down, get the fuck out of there. Even if you are able to neutralize one of them, there will still be two more that will outnumber your limbs. That shit about one guy beating the crap out of 3 or more opponents works great in the movies. Unless you're a ridiculously talented heavyweight with deadly hands that have one-punch knockout power (i.e. Tyson in his prime), I would NOT take a chance. Even then, I would still advise against it.
That said, if it's just two guys fighting (with no outside influence or friends), I would happily take it to the ground and go for a choke. I would much rather roll on the ground and work on getting his arms, legs, ankles, shoulder or neck in trouble, than I would standing up and taking a chance at possibly getting bruised up or stitches.
It all depends on the situation..
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i sparred with a bjj black belt mind you i have no submission knowledge other than
when you have you opponent laying on his back put your head in his chest
first round my fighting instinct didnt allow him to get any take downs
second round i couldnt keep him off and i gassed lol he was putting me in arm bars
and knee bars and they werent hurting because im double jointed but no one but me knew that
i was faking and screaming I WILL NEVER TAP... GRACIES AINT SHIT lol and the small crowd was shocked
at my "pain resistance".
third round began as he came in for the take down i put all my weight behind this punch and
cracked him in the sternum and he dropped like a sack of shit
moral of the story bjj aint shit in a street fight if you get taken to the ground scratch his eyes
grab his adams apple, bite him, grab his balls and squeeze very hard, elbow his face till he stops moving
or better yet do what mark coleman did and ground and pound his ass
if your in a fight 3 or more against 1 target the guy who started the fight take him to the ground and
you bite pieces of his flesh and choke that bitch untill he starts screaming and instead of his mates stomping you they will try to
break the fight up
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That's Charles Krazy Horse Bennett fighting with Wanderleis BJJ Coach Cristiano Marcello :D
Krazy Horse
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if charles were a real niQQa he would have bit him
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i sparred with a bjj black belt mind you i have no submission knowledge other than
when you have you opponent laying on his back put your head in his chest
first round my fighting instinct didnt allow him to get any take downs
second round i couldnt keep him off and i gassed lol he was putting me in arm bars
and knee bars and they werent hurting because im double jointed but no one but me knew that
i was faking and screaming I WILL NEVER TAP... GRACIES AINT SHIT lol and the small crowd was shocked
at my "pain resistance".
third round began as he came in for the take down i put all my weight behind this punch and
cracked him in the sternum and he dropped like a sack of shit
moral of the story bjj aint shit in a street fight if you get taken to the ground scratch his eyes
grab his adams apple, bite him, grab his balls and squeeze very hard, elbow his face till he stops moving
or better yet do what mark coleman did and ground and pound his ass
if your in a fight 3 or more against 1 target the guy who started the fight take him to the ground and
you bite pieces of his flesh and choke that bitch untill he starts screaming and instead of his mates stomping you they will try to
break the fight up
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and knee bars and they werent hurting because im double jointed but no one but me knew that
You are not double jointed, you are flexible.
Do you have four elbows and four knees?
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if charles were a real niQQa he would have bit him
I'd say he's a real one due to how many times he's been in Jail :D
Latest one in 2013
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i sparred with a bjj black belt mind you i have no submission knowledge other than
when you have you opponent laying on his back put your head in his chest
first round my fighting instinct didnt allow him to get any take downs
second round i couldnt keep him off and i gassed lol he was putting me in arm bars
and knee bars and they werent hurting because im double jointed but no one but me knew that
i was faking and screaming I WILL NEVER TAP... GRACIES AINT SHIT lol and the small crowd was shocked
at my "pain resistance".
He must have been a crappy black belt. I roll with guys that are "double jointed" all the time and I am able to tell quickly after applying a lock or two (specifically an armbar). Instead of going for arm bars, I would have gone straight for a rear-naked choke. You can be "double-jointed" or really just have hypermobility (as that's what it truly means) of joints on your side, but you sure won't have an extra trachea to breathe out of when oxygen is being cut off. Also, he could have gone for a Kimura, Americana, peruvian necktie, guillotine or Omaplata (I can keep adding chokes to that list).
third round began as he came in for the take down i put all my weight behind this punch and
cracked him in the sternum and he dropped like a sack of shit
Were you sparring in a Brazilian JiuJitsu match or an MMA match? If you roll with a BJJ black belt, I am assuming you're doing JiuJitsu.
moral of the story bjj aint shit in a street fight if you get taken to the ground scratch his eyes
grab his adams apple, bite him, grab his balls and squeeze very hard, elbow his face till he stops moving
or better yet do what mark coleman did and ground and pound his ass
I've used Brazilian JiuJitsu before in two street fights (both of which I did not want to take part in) and it worked like a charm. I could have simply used my hands to out-strike the guy, but magically the fight went to the ground.
if your in a fight 3 or more against 1 target the guy who started the fight take him to the ground and
you bite pieces of his flesh and choke that bitch untill he starts screaming and instead of his mates stomping you they will try to
break the fight up
I don't know about you, but I would NOT bite pieces of another man's flesh. Besides it being disgusting, you can very easily contract something.
About the friends stopping the fight versus stomping the opponent, it truly depends where you are. I suggest that if there are multiple opponents you just get the fuck out of there. Here in New York City, most thugs won't try to fight with you, they will simply shoot you or use a knife.
Be safe out there.
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Karate is sport for 8 year old children.
Get in a street fight and try to karate chop your opponent. Then come back here and let us know how it went.
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Karate is sport for 8 year old children.
Get in a street fight and try to karate chop your opponent. Then come back here and let us know how it went.
Depends entirely on the opponent and the practicioner
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Who is Chopper Reid?
Collector of other peoples stories ;) & 100% bullshiter ;D
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Karate is sport for 8 year old children.
Get in a street fight and try to karate chop your opponent. Then come back here and let us know how it went.
You a right, Sport Karate is kindergartens activity.
Okinawa Karate is real karate.
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That's funny, given Mike Tyson beat the crap out of 3 guys in a hotel lobby years ago. There's your talent.
It was 2 guys.
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I also read Chopper Reid's book about him getting in a bar brawl when he was alone against multiple attackers, he knocked the first one out and then put his fingers in his eye socket and pulled his eye out, dropped it in his beer and drunk it, the rest of the guys backed off. :-X
Chopper Reid is a pathological lying psychopath who regularly got his ass kicked in prison. You would have to be pretty naive and gullible to believe anything that came out of his mouth. But then again, look at who I am talking too!
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Chopper Reid is a pathological liar who regularly got his ass kicked in prison. You would have to be pretty naive and gullible to believe anything that came out of his mouth. But then again, look at who I am talking too!
My favourite Marks "Choper" story is that some Croatian prisoner put large screwdriver through his chest narrowly missing his hart :P
but no entry/exit scars on "Chops" body ;D ;D ;D
How that other guy get a extra long screwdriver in jail is another "philosophy" ;D ;D ;D
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My favourite Marks "Choper" story is that some Croatian prisoner put large screwdriver through his chest narrowly missing his hart :P
but no entry/exit scars on "Chops" body ;D ;D ;D
How that other guy get a extra long screwdriver in jail is another "philosophy" ;D ;D ;D
He wrote a ton of fiction books on his so called exploits as a stand-over man. Most of the crimes he wrote about in his first book were confirmed, although he embellished his part in them and made himself out to be a real tough guy.
After that first book, the rest of them were pretty much made up. I remember an interview he did while he was in prison when he mocked all those scholars going to school in the hope they could one day write a book and get published. He was laughing at how an illiterate psychopath criminal could sell more books than some guy with a PhD.
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I think you gotta or you don't in a fight. Every martial art can be effective if used properly in the right situation.
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I think you gotta or you don't in a fight. Every martial art can be effective if used properly in the right situation.
Exactly.
It's all about the practicioner and the opponent.
Clearly you don't use BJJ in a scenario where you are outnumbered (kick in the head when on the ground), but in a 1 on 1 scenario it works well.
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If you bite me, I will break your arm... and then I will break every other limb you have and choke you out and then beat you while you are out cold
I will have a bite but you will never be the same
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Good post just like the time Craig Titus whipped a pro mma fighter, in a real fight you don't have some referee standing over you trying to break you up or rules, first thing that gets a persons attention, if you go to the ground how is the other person going to stop the double eye gouge and dig that will leave them blind
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Good post just like the time Craig Titus whipped a pro mma fighter, in a real fight you don't have some referee standing over you trying to break you up or rules, first thing that gets a persons attention, if you go to the ground how is the other person going to stop the double eye gouge and dig that will leave them blind
Make sure you never go to ground , you will need the fire services with a winch to get you back on your feet.
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Chopper Reid is a pathological lying psychopath who regularly got his ass kicked in prison. You would have to be pretty naive and gullible to believe anything that came out of his mouth. But then again, look at who I am talking too!
Yet you believe the guys who said they kicked his ass in prison.
Gullibility is a strange word isn't it, its not even in the dictionary.
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Good post just like the time Craig Titus whipped a pro mma fighter, in a real fight you don't have some referee standing over you trying to break you up or rules, first thing that gets a persons attention, if you go to the ground how is the other person going to stop the double eye gouge and dig that will leave them blind
This is especially true for a guy like you.
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i never bought the "all fights go to the ground and so you must know ground wrestling" theory
i been in a bunch of fights as a young lad, just like every getbigger who wasnt loved by his father
and NONE of them involved ground wrestling
wild punching, really crazy wild punching mostly
and cheap shots with liquor bottles etc
a boxer would have a tremendous advantage
other than that i dont see martial arts relevant
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i never bought the "all fights go to the ground and so you must know ground wrestling" theory
i been in a bunch of fights as a young lad, just like every getbigger who wasnt loved by his father
and NONE of them involved ground wrestling
wild punching, really crazy wild punching mostly
and cheap shots with liquor bottles etc
a boxer would have a tremendous advantage
other than that i dont see martial arts relevant
yeah but a dude who knows what he's doing could just shoot on you with a single leg takedown or something and your boxing or whatever goes out the window....5 seconds later you're in an armbar or choked out.
unless youre a highschool wrestler you wouldn't be able to defend a takedown...
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yeah but a dude who knows what he's doing could just shoot on you with a single leg takedown or something and your boxing or whatever goes out the window....5 seconds later you're in an armbar or choked out.
unless youre a highschool wrestler you wouldn't be able to defend a takedown...
there are literally no highly skilled BJJ fighters roaming the streets at night looking for a fight
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Yet you believe the guys who said they kicked his ass in prison.
Gullibility is a strange word isn't it, its not even in the dictionary.
Not everyone in prison is a pathological liar as was Chopper, both the crims and the justice system confirmed it. Nice try at hiding you lack of knowledge on the matter. But I live where Chopper committed his crimes and at the time I knew a lot of people who moved in the circles he did. So stop trying to pretend everyone is as gullible as you. What you read in the paper and see in a telemovie doesn't compare to what those from the inside know. And chopper himself at time has acknowledged he has been beaten senseless on plenty of occasions. It's just that so may people believe in the fiction he created about himself. Gullible people love to believe in mythical powerful images created around normal mortal men. I suppose next you will be telling me Bruce lee was killed by a 'Death Touch'
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Not everyone in prison is a pathological liar as was Chopper, both the crims and the justice system confirmed it. Nice try at hiding you lack of knowledge on the matter. But I live where Chopper committed his crimes and at the time I knew a lot of people who moved in the circles he did. So stop trying to pretend everyone is as gullible as you. What you read in the paper and see in a telemovie doesn't compare to what those from the inside know.
Ah, so you used to mix with crims, lol.
Maybe Charles Bronson in the UK is more your cup of tea, he used to fight trained dogs.
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Uhhh no kicks or takedowns? I'd fuck you up dawg. For real.
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Ah, so you used to mix with crims, lol.
Maybe Charles Bronson in the UK is more your cup of tea, he used to fight trained dogs.
Not really, my best friend growing up, his Dad was a figure in the underworld, I didn't know it until I reached my late teens. Now nearly 25 years later, I remember a lot of things that happened and recognise them for what they were. At the time I was just a naive kid. So through that friendship I met some pretty shady characters. And one of the characters was a dogman (dog fighter), he actually gave my family one of his pitbull puppies, my Mum had it destroyed when it showed dangerous aggression towards the kids, there were 5 of us, and I have two younger sisters. My mum did absolutely the right thing. A lot of my friends owned pitbulls, I have a lot of experience with them. I even have a tattoo of one on my back as proof of my foolish ways as a younger man. So why people like to try and intimidate me with pitbull references is beyond me. Well before I was even attacked I knew how dangerous they were. I have seen them tear other dogs to shreds.
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Striking is great if you can stay on your feet. Odds are unless you are a really good wrestler you are going to be taken down eventually. How effective are strikes in the clinch?
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Striking is great if you can stay on your feet. Odds are unless you are a really good wrestler you are going to be taken down eventually. How effective are strikes in the clinch?
You'd be surprised how quickly an untrained person will get tired trying to take someone down. If they can't do it after trying a few times they are pretty much spent. I'm no bad ass but I've experienced it myself when some guy tried to take me down.
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Most trained BJJ guys work on take downs all the time. If you are punching or kicking you are already prime to getting knocked down.
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i never bought the "all fights go to the ground and so you must know ground wrestling" theory
i been in a bunch of fights as a young lad, just like every getbigger who wasnt loved by his father
When you were a young lad, one may assume that MMA wasn't as widespread amongst the kids in that area you were growing up in.
For example, back in the 70s, it rarely went to the ground in a random bar-brawl
Nowadays though, Neighbours Cousins mother and almost everyone has taken a class of "some such".
It's very handy to have defence against taken down these days in these settings.
Because if you miss and are taken down, it may end very badly.
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When you were a young lad, one may assume that MMA wasn't as widespread amongst the kids in that area you were growing up in.
For example, back in the 70s, it rarely went to the ground in a random bar-brawl
Nowadays though, Neighbours Cousins mother and almost everyone has taken a class of "some such".
It's very handy to have defence against taken down these days in these settings.
Because if you miss and are taken down, it may end very badly.
which is my point
taking a couple of classes of mma doesnt make you efficient at it
it takes YEARS of consistent tedious training
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Well before I was even attacked I knew how dangerous they were.
That surprises me, I thought you were a guy that was always prepared for anything and that your self awareness was second to none regarding potential dangerous situations.
(We discussed it in length in another thread)
Yet heres a guy who knows how dangerous pit-bulls are and still finds himself in a situation to get bitten, what happened, did your "spidey senses" let you down?
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Ah, so you used to mix with crims, lol.
Maybe Charles Bronson in the UK is more your cup of tea, he used to fight trained dogs.
Charlie would eat Mark "Choper" for breakfast, Fatso Chop can be seen in Melbourne's cafes & is gone artistic :D :D :D
Actually Eric Bana (Banadanovic) overacted as Choper.
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That surprises me, I thought you were a guy that was always prepared for anything and that your self awareness was second to none regarding potential dangerous situations.
(We discussed it in length in another thread)
Yet heres a guy who knows how dangerous pit-bulls are and still finds himself in a situation to get bitten, what happened, did your "spidey senses" let you down?
I never ever said my self awareness was second to none regarding danger. You seem to want to paint a picture of me that simply isn't true. I merely suggested that I was aware of my vulnerability, and even more so after a pitbull attack. The attack happened to me while working, there was very little a could have done about it. And you seem to have a bee in your bonnet because I said I wouldn't approach two men who had just finished decapitating someone in public. Call me crazy, but I just don't think that is a good idea.
And just because someone is aware of the danger doesn't make them invulnerable to it. There was a book I read years ago about mountain climbing, and discussing ways of avoiding the dangers of such a dangerous past-time. One of the conclusions was that it was impossible to fully prevent deaths and serious injuries, but one should still prepare vigilantly for such occurrences, and although this doesn't prevent accidents, it minimises the chances greatly. If enough people climb mountains, then eventually shit will happen, even to the most prepared.
And you have a real chip on your shoulder. You come of as an arrogant ignorant twat.
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i sparred with a bjj black belt mind you i have no submission knowledge other than
when you have you opponent laying on his back put your head in his chest
first round my fighting instinct didnt allow him to get any take downs
second round i couldnt keep him off and i gassed lol he was putting me in arm bars
and knee bars and they werent hurting because im double jointed but no one but me knew that
i was faking and screaming I WILL NEVER TAP... GRACIES AINT SHIT lol and the small crowd was shocked
at my "pain resistance".
third round began as he came in for the take down i put all my weight behind this punch and
cracked him in the sternum and he dropped like a sack of shit
moral of the story bjj aint shit in a street fight if you get taken to the ground scratch his eyes
grab his adams apple, bite him, grab his balls and squeeze very hard, elbow his face till he stops moving
or better yet do what mark coleman did and ground and pound his ass
if your in a fight 3 or more against 1 target the guy who started the fight take him to the ground and
you bite pieces of his flesh and choke that bitch untill he starts screaming and instead of his mates stomping you they will try to
break the fight up
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and then you woke up
lying homo
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yeah but a dude who knows what he's doing could just shoot on you with a single leg takedown or something and your boxing or whatever goes out the window....5 seconds later you're in an armbar or choked out.
unless youre a highschool wrestler you wouldn't be able to defend a takedown...
Lol at thinking some random punk on the streets knows how to lock an armbar. Streetfights (and barfights in particular) are usually very very wild and sluggish. Not everyone is the poor mans Fedor Emelianenko. A guy with some decent hands and reflexes can counter knock someone out pretty easily.
My experience is that youll always be outnumbered, get a suckerpunch, glassed, ringed up homies in beamers anyways though. As OMR says better talk or run, if not survive on instinct and dirty tactics (bas ruttens self defense over any blackbelt).
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And you seem to have a bee in your bonnet because I said I wouldn't approach two men who had just finished decapitating someone in public.
He wasn't decapitated, that never happened.
And you have a real chip on your shoulder. You come of as an arrogant ignorant twat.
Me? lol
pot/kettle/black
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Knowing TKD or Karate and thinking you are badass in a fight is funny. How often do fights start with a guy lining up 6 feet in front of you in a fighting stance? Most fights happen without the attackee knowing. The attacker will come in and grab or hit you before you know what's happening.
Anyone that starts a fight blabbing his gums most likely has no idea how to fight.
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Now, not every fight goes to the ground. Some guys have solid takedown defense and that's why it is important to have a well-rounded approach to fighting. Before I ever did JiuJitsu, I was boxing (non-pro) for over 20 years. If you combine the two (Boxing + JiuJitsu) you will bring a package that can be devastating to any fight.
In my opinion, someone that has talent with his hands (say a golden glove), paired with solid Muay Thai skills and Purple-Black belt in Brazilian JiuJitsu is practically a nightmare to fight against.
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Agreed....
I have boxed from the time I was a little kid. Many of my friends fought in Golden Gloves, amateur tourneys etc. If any of you think a street fighter is even remotely close to being able to strike like a trained fighter you're crazy. Any clinch or takedown attempt is going to be met with upper cuts and punches to the back of your head until you let go.
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Agreed....
I have boxed from the time I was a little kid. Many of my friends fought in Golden Gloves, amateur tourneys etc. If any of you think a street fighter is even remotely close to being able to strike like a trained fighter you're crazy. Any clinch or takedown attempt is going to be met with upper cuts and punches to the back of your head until you let go.
x 1000
What it feels like to be hit by a professional boxer can't be compared to anything else. I've sparred with professional boxers in the past (me wearing headgear) for a 1-2 rounds and getting hit by them is unlike anything I've ever experienced. You feel as if your entire body gets rocked with your skull, chest cavity and equilibrium taking the biggest hit. Even by me trying my hardest to hang with them, I would find myself giving up due to the sheer pain from their punches (and that's during basic sparring where they take it easy on me).
There's a reason a professional boxer can be arrested for use of a deadly weapon when they have a regular fist fight on the street.
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He wasn't decapitated, that never happened.
You have trouble seeing the point don't you. You get hung up on meaningless details. You argue for the sake of it, you must be a joy to live or work with. I feel like I am dealing with a juvenile with some serious daddy issues.
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I feel like I am dealing with a juvenile with some serious daddy issues.
Makes your dick hard doesn't it?
Admit it - you wanna hump him.
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You have trouble seeing the point don't you. You get hung up on meaningless details. You argue for the sake of it, you must be a joy to live or work with. I feel like I am dealing with a juvenile with some serious daddy issues.
The point was you called me an arrogant ignorant twat, however I wasn't ignorant enough to not know the guy wasn't decapitated.
So who's the ignorant twat now?
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The point was you called me an arrogant ignorant twat, however I wasn't ignorant enough to not know the guy wasn't decapitated.
So who's the ignorant twat now?
That's what I don't get about E-kul. He will answer to random posts with a lengthy, novel-like response in order to attempt to have somewhat of a valid point, but somehow towards the end of his piece always resorts to childish name calling and yet has the nerve to point out things like this:
You have trouble seeing the point don't you. You get hung up on meaningless details. You argue for the sake of it, you must be a joy to live or work with. I feel like I am dealing with a juvenile with some serious daddy issues.
wtf?? ::)
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That's what I don't get about E-kul. He will answer to random posts with a lengthy, novel-like response in order to attempt to have somewhat of a valid point, but somehow towards the end of his piece always resorts to childish name calling and yet has the nerve to point out things like this:
wtf?? ::)
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Once again OneMorerep you make comments out of context, the name calling is a result of someone stalking me around getbig, doing everything than can to provoke and annoy. It comes at the end of a long of insults, pitbull jibes and no attempt to debate, just to insult and belittle. And your comment reflects your butthurt from the other day, you just can't let it go can you. Yes I think UKJEFF is arrogant and ignorant, that's my observation based on his account of himself. And yes, I feel like I am dealing with a very immature person who is very sensitive and unable to deal with differences of opinion.
I actually keep name calling to a minimum, I always try and debate the argument if I can, I would say I receive 50 times the insults I give. Once it becomes apparent that someone has excessively hurt feelings due to my opinion and stalk me around GETBIG, eventually I disengage and offer my analysis. I have never understood why someone would publicly display there hurt feelings by stalking others and constantly making comments reflecting how upset someone else has made them on a body-building forum of all places. It's almost like these stalkers become obsessed with me, the only way I have come to remember a getbiggers name is when they stalk me, I don't even bother looking at the name of people posting, I like to respond to the message and not the person. The only time an exception is made is when it becomes undeniably apparent I have a NEW stalker. UKJEFF seems to be the latest.
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The point was you called me an arrogant ignorant twat, however I wasn't ignorant enough to not know the guy wasn't decapitated.
So who's the ignorant twat now?
Yeah, but you were ignorant enough to miss the point, which was, it isn't prudent to approach people who had just murdered someone in public. To deflect, you focused on a moot point, which in the scheme of things wasn't relevant. You do this for the sake of being disagreeable. Why do people do this? Perhaps because they are arrogant. Perhaps they don't have a decent counter argument. Who knows, some people are just born TWATS.
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And your comment reflects your butthurt from the other day, you just can't let it go can you.
Oh, I wasn't butthurt. I was given the option to have you completely removed from this site (Permanently - You can ask Ron) and since I decided to not act like a Nazi or a liberal faggot, I instead said you should stay. We need people that have different views here, as it brings more dimensions to the site.
Once again OneMorerep you make comments out of context, the name calling is a result of someone stalking me around getbig, doing everything than can to provoke and annoy. It comes at the end of a long of insults, pitbull jibes and no attempt to debate, just to insult and belittle. Yes I think UKJEFF is arrogant and ignorant, that's my observation based on his account of himself. And yes, I feel like I am dealing with a very immature person who is very sensitive and unable to deal with differences of opinion.
I actually keep name calling to a minimum, I always try and debate the argument if I can, I would say I receive 50 times the insults I give. Once it becomes apparent that someone has excessively hurt feelings due to my opinion and stalk me around GETBIG, eventually I disengage and offer my analysis. I have never understood why someone would publicly display there hurt feelings by stalking others and constantly making comments reflecting how upset someone else has made them on a body-building forum of all places. It's almost like these stalkers become obsessed with me, the only way I have come to remember a getbiggers name is when they stalk me, I don't even bother looking at the name of people posting, I like to respond to the message and not the person. The only time an exception is made is when it becomes undeniably apparent I have a NEW stalker. UKJEFF seems to be the latest.
I don't think UkJeff is stalking you. I can't say that I've paid much attention to him following you, but I doubt he would care enough about you to do so.
I think he might simply be trolling you. Have fun with it, but try to ease up on the petty insults, as it makes your long winded responses lose their value.
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Oh, I wasn't butthurt. I was given the option to have you completely removed from this site (Permanently - You can ask Ron) and since I decided to not act like a Nazi or a liberal faggot, I instead said you should stay. We need people that have different views here, as it brings more dimensions to the site.
I don't think UkJeff is stalking you. I can't say that I've paid much attention to him following you, but I doubt he would care enough about you to do so.
I think he might simply be trolling you. Have fun with it, but try to ease up on the petty insults, as it makes your long winded responses lose their value.
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I am prepared to be banned, I know that may happen. I have considered moving on myself anyway. I think in the 8 years I have been a member here I have outgrown the place.
And UKJEFF may or may not be trolling, but people like him become pretty transparent. I state my opinion, it really hurts their feelings, and next thing you know every thread I post in there they are, not responding to the subject but doing their best to make personal attacks on me, or provoke, or make some pitbull jibe. I have to ask myself, what is the mentality of the type of person who behaves that way? It becomes tiresome and makes me realise maybe I am to old for this place.
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If you bite me, I will break your arm... and then I will break every other limb you have and choke you out and then beat you while you are out cold
I will have a bite but you will never be the same
what if the person bites you again as you are attempting to break their arm? What if the person wants to bite your face off (ie that "zombie" dude in Florida).
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I am prepared to be banned, I know that may happen. I have considered moving on myself anyway. I think in the 8 years I have been a member here I have outgrown the place.
And UKJEFF may or may not be trolling, but people like him become pretty transparent. I state my opinion, it really hurts their feelings, and next thing you know every thread I post in there they are, not responding to the subject but doing their best to make personal attacks on me, or provoke, or make some pitbull jibe. I have to ask myself, what is the mentality of the type of person who behaves that way? It becomes tiresome and makes me realise maybe I am to old for this place.
UkJeff is in his 40's as well. I think he likes to engage in simple banter and sometimes enjoys a little trolling in between. That said, his posts shouldn't drive you away from the site.
There is no other forum as entertaining as this place. I've been a member at many other forums and nothing compares. This place is very addictive.
Remember to have fun around here!
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A lot of street fighters on Getbig :o, toughest board on the net , respect .
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Interesting "Viewpoints"
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if he bites while I am breaking it I go crazy and break it fast and I break it hard with no mercy they go fetal after that and nurse the broken elbow then I switch to the other arm and snap that one then they are crying with two broken elbows and I am just getting started
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if he bites while I am breaking it I go crazy and break it fast and I break it hard with no mercy they go fetal after that and nurse the broken elbow then I switch to the other arm and snap that one then they are crying with two broken elbows and I am just getting started
If words were gold, you'd be a wealthy man.
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if he bites while I am breaking it I go crazy and break it fast and I break it hard with no mercy they go fetal after that and nurse the broken elbow then I switch to the other arm and snap that one then they are crying with two broken elbows and I am just getting started
Can you take a break from all that macho arm breaking and pick me up at LAX?
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I think he likes to engage in simple banter and sometimes enjoys a little trolling in between.
yep, thats about it. ;)
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A lot of street fighters on Getbig :o, toughest board on the net , respect .
i actually think the street fighters on getbig are tougher than a lot of arm chair bjj studs on the internet
at least they have a strong juiced up body
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Once knew a guy who bit off guys nose and swallowed it, upon asking him why, he told me so they couldnt sew it back on like the last c**t, absolute animal, type of person you meet once if you have to and avoid, shanked multiple times by a team of lifers and after lockdown refuses to be stretchered out, insists on being allowed to walk out past them as they are locked in their cells. I dont think anyone there that day will ever forget that moment incuding the guards who just walked beside him, no one touched him not even the ambos, collapsed just outside from punctured lungs, but not before he was out of site of dogs who done it.
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That's what I don't get about E-kul. He will answer to random posts with a lengthy, novel-like response in order to attempt to have somewhat of a valid point, but somehow towards the end of his piece always resorts to childish name calling and yet has the nerve to point out things like this:
wtf?? ::)
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It's because he doesn't know how to argue without being controlled by emotions. He has no substance just filler and ad hominem attacks , he's not interested in hearing a counter point , he's already made up his mind and when he gets corrected on his nonsense he goes on the offensive and starts melting down.
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A lot of street fighters on Getbig :o, toughest board on the net , respect .
You obviously have nt checked out "eastsideboxing" half the guys on there would destroy Tyson,Fedor,Overeem and the like on the street.