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Two months before Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Saul "Canelo" Alvarez square off to unify their junior middleweight titles in the year's biggest fight, records are already falling.
The fight won't take place until Sept. 14 (Showtime PPV) at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, but already it has broken the all-time live gate record for a boxing event after selling out on Wednesday, less than 24 hours after tickets went on sale.
Golden Boy Promotions chief executive Richard Schaefer told ESPN.com the fight will generate a minimum of $18,647,000 in ticket sales and "it could go up to a little shy of $19 million depending on the number of comps that are given out. It's going to be the record. The MGM is calculating and has to do the ticket settlement, but it will definitely be the record."
http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/9430531/floyd-mayweather-jr-canelo-alvarez-title-fight-breaks-all-live-gate-record-boxing-event
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I hope FMJ wins but I am worried about this ginger kid
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Gonna be filled with Mexicans ;D
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I hope FMJ wins but I am worried about this ginger kid
Like I said its a good fight for Floyd bad fight for Canelo, he just isnt ready yet but since the Guerrero fight was a let down this fight was rushed
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Floyd dodged a lot of good competition, Canelo is probably his best opponent since I can remember.
He's not old, small or an exposed fighter.
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Canelo is mostly a media-Golden Boy-creation. He's improved as a fighter over the last few years but he isn't even the best in his weight class. He lacks real power, his boxing I.Q. is decent for his age, but that's about it.
Floyd's defense is just too good for Canelo to repeatedly land to the body which it's gonna take for Alvarez to even have a shot at the upset. Floyd's not getting caught w/ one punch either. Canelo's not fast enough and not strong enough to capitalize on it even if he did connect.
Wide decision win for Mayweather. The Atmosphere is going to be great though.
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Gonna be filled with wealthy Mexicans ;D
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Two months before Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Saul "Canelo" Alvarez square off to unify their junior middleweight titles in the year's biggest fight, records are already falling.
The fight won't take place until Sept. 14 (Showtime PPV) at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, but already it has broken the all-time live gate record for a boxing event after selling out on Wednesday, less than 24 hours after tickets went on sale.
Golden Boy Promotions chief executive Richard Schaefer told ESPN.com the fight will generate a minimum of $18,647,000 in ticket sales and "it could go up to a little shy of $19 million depending on the number of comps that are given out. It's going to be the record. The MGM is calculating and has to do the ticket settlement, but it will definitely be the record."
http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/9430531/floyd-mayweather-jr-canelo-alvarez-title-fight-breaks-all-live-gate-record-boxing-event
They are lying but it's to be expected.
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Gonna be filled with Cartel Mexicans ;D
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And where is the typical b e a n e r going to get the paper from?
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This b e a n e r goes to all the fights and isn't part of a cartel.
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This b e a n e r goes to all the fights and isn't part of a cartel.
So how do you feel about FMW's Mexican Retirement tour?
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Carl Froch vs Mikkell Kessler sold out in just over 10 minutes, with all 19,000 tickets selling out for the London 02 Arena.
Ricky Hatton vs Juan Lazcano did 40,000 tickets in 24hours and went on to ram almost 60,000 in on the night in Manchester.
So this a seriously bogus story for a venue which holds what, 16,000 of which there will be 3,000 high-rollers and VIP's with free tickets.
With regards the fight, it will be shit.
It will be Mayweather vs Carlos Baldomir all over again. Canelo has a decent set of skills and punch selection, but cant close the gap anywhere near fast enough and needs to plant-down himself before unloading anything remotely hurtful.
Floyd will use lateral movement, unload and then counter before getting on his bike and resetting again.
Floyd UD12 is absolutely nailed on. Because Canelo was conserving energy against Trout, and that was at 154lb whereas this stipulates a further 2lb off which will definitely be a horrible task for Canelo to take off, given he is already so tight at the weight limit.
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So how do you feel about FMW's Mexican Retirement tour?
I'm a Mayweather fan so I'm cool with it.
The thing is-there are so many Mexican fighters in this sport that any fighter is going to have to go through them to be considered the best. It's always been that way(at least in the modern era) and it will continue to be that way. The fact of the matter is-nobody is beating Floyd, be it black, brown, purple, or white.
Besides, it took a Mexican to give Floyd his only legitimate loss as a pro.
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Canelo is mostly a media-Golden Boy-creation. He's improved as a fighter over the last few years but he isn't even the best in his weight class. He lacks real power, his boxing I.Q. is decent for his age, but that's about it.
Floyd's defense is just too good for Canelo to repeatedly land to the body which it's gonna take for Alvarez to even have a shot at the upset. Floyd's not getting caught w/ one punch either. Canelo's not fast enough and not strong enough to capitalize on it even if he did connect.
Wide decision win for Mayweather. The Atmosphere is going to be great though.
I disagree on Canelo speed and strength. However I think Canelo severely lacks in the cardio/workload department. In last fight with trout, Canelo gave up entire rounds just so he can take a breather and showboat a bit. If you watch his recent 4 fights, his workpace is kinda low, his strength/speed carries him through.
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Mayweather is just to fast. Alvarez will be chasing him the whole night. Mayweather will throw punches when he feels like it then go back to keeping away.
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Mayweather is just to fast. Alvarez will be chasing him the whole night. Mayweather will throw punches when he feels like it then go back to keeping away.
I agree, Canelo will be left feeling like many good fighters that lost against Floyd.......Knowing they could beat him up, if only they could lay hands on him.
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I disagree on Canelo speed and strength.
Really? He demolished Josesito Lopez who is a natural lightweight/junior welterweight who fought for the first time at junior middle. Hardly a accomplishment.
He went the distance and won a bogus title by beating Hatton(not the good one either) who was a natural junior welter-again fighting for the first time at 154.
He went the distance w/ a old, old, version of Mosley who is a natural 147lbr. He stopped head case Cintron and Gomez who are also natural 147 pounders.
The one time he fights a real junior middle as a belt holder in Trout he also goes the distance. So, where's the power at?
His speed-average at best.
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He looks like a Irish kid, not a Mexican.
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So much hype for a fight that's so far away >:(
I could die between now and then :(
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Really? He demolished Josesito Lopez who is a natural lightweight/junior welterweight who fought for the first time at junior middle. Hardly a accomplishment.
He went the distance and won a bogus title by beating Hatton(not the good one either) who was a natural junior welter-again fighting for the first time at 154.
He went the distance w/ a old, old, version of Mosley who is a natural 147lbr. He stopped head case Cintron and Gomez who are also natural 147 pounders.
The one time he fights a real junior middle as a belt holder in Trout he also goes the distance. So, where's the power at?
His speed-average at best.
Maybe watch the Trout fight again?!
Find it in 720p and 60fps and pay close attention.
PS: Don't bother listening to announcers, generally they are total trash.
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chapo is the good badguy for mexico
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It will be Mayweather vs Carlos Baldomir all over again.
::) canelo isnt a 180lb windmill
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Maybe watch the Trout fight again?!
Find it in 720p and 60fps and pay close attention.
PS: Don't bother listening to announcers, generally they are total trash.
I was at the fight. The one time Canelo wobbled him was w/ a jab-which was more of a freak reaction by Trout than anything. Hardly indicative of a display of power. The announcers are partly responsible for this misnomer that Alvarez has one punch KO power to begin with.
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The one time Canelo wobbled him was w/ a jab-which was more of a freak reaction by Trout than anything.
anymore examples of these freak reactions
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The announcers are partly responsible for this misnomer that Alvarez has one punch KO power to begin with.
This.
won 42 (KO 30) + lost 0 (KO 0) + drawn 1
won 44 (KO 26) + lost 0 (KO 0) + drawn 0
Their KO stats are almost identical. Without looking up Canelo's fight history, I'd say most of his KOs are early in his career like FMW. When I've watched him, he's more of a high pressure fighter, which isn't concern for FMW, because he needs an opponent to dictate the fight for his counter game to work. Canelo is no Thomas Hearn. And I don't think he's a banger with hand speed like Berto, another guy FMW and Manny have avoided.
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This.
won 42 (KO 30) + lost 0 (KO 0) + drawn 1
won 44 (KO 26) + lost 0 (KO 0) + drawn 0
Their KO stats are almost identical. Without looking up Canelo's fight history, I'd say most of his KOs are early in his career like FMW. When I've watched him, he's more of a high pressure fighter, which isn't concern for FMW, because he needs an opponent to dictate the fight for his counter game to work. Canelo is no Thomas Hearn. And I don't think he's a banger with hand speed like Berto, another guy FMW and Manny have avoided.
If Canelo can muster good combos it might be an interesting fight
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This.
won 42 (KO 30) + lost 0 (KO 0) + drawn 1
won 44 (KO 26) + lost 0 (KO 0) + drawn 0
Their KO stats are almost identical. Without looking up Canelo's fight history, I'd say most of his KOs are early in his career like FMW. When I've watched him, he's more of a high pressure fighter, which isn't concern for FMW, because he needs an opponent to dictate the fight for his counter game to work. Canelo is no Thomas Hearn. And I don't think he's a banger with hand speed like Berto, another guy FMW and Manny have avoided.
You made sense until the Hearns comment. Then totally fuck'd up w/ the Berto one. Berto sucks-there's nobody, especially Floyd or Pac avoiding that dude.
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anymore examples of these freak reactions
Haha
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anymore examples of these freak reactions
I'm sure I can find one if you can find me an example of Canelo's devastating one punch power.
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I'm sure I can find one if you can find me an example of Canelo's devastating one punch power.
Your turn Nicademus
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Baldomir? Really?
I already addressed the Trout fight. Try again.
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I was at the fight. The one time Canelo wobbled him was w/ a jab-which was more of a freak reaction by Trout than anything. Hardly indicative of a display of power. The announcers are partly responsible for this misnomer that Alvarez has one punch KO power to begin with.
Bit incorrect. Trout threw a jab which Canelo countered with a 1-2, with the cross sending Trout staggering all over the place with giraffe legs.
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Baldomir? Really?
I already addressed the Trout fight. Try again.
Baldomir, was known for his tough chin .
''Freak reaction'' ,hahaha
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Bit incorrect. Trout threw a jab which Canelo countered with a 1-2, with the cross sending Trout staggering all over the place with giraffe legs.
You're right. The right connected.
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Baldomir, was known for his tough chin .
''Freak reaction'' ,hahaha
Baldomir? 50 year old Baldomir that isn't a natural 154lb Baldomir? That's your proof of Canelo's power? Cmon get real.
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Baldomir? 50 year old Baldomir that isn't a natural 154lb Baldomir? That's your proof of Canelo's power? Cmon get real.
Freak reaction knock down , I've been in a boxing gym since I was 12yo , I've never heard that one before ;D
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bu bu but Boxing is dead ;D
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That's the only way I can describe Trout's Judah light dance. Hell, even Canelo couldn't believe it.
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bu bu but Boxing is dead ;D
No doubt.
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That's the only way I can describe Trout's Judah light dance.
Because you don't know what you're talking about .
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Because you don't know what you're talking about .
If he's so devastating of a puncher why didn't he finish him then?
Trout dusted himself off and took Canelo 12.
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Nicademus brother, if Canelo connects clean on Mayweather, most likely Mayweather will be down and possibly out.
Canelo can hurt ANY Jr middleweight in the world, he has power bro, now all time great power probably not, but he can crack.
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Nicademus brother, if Canelo connects clean on Mayweather, most likely Mayweather will be down and possibly out.
Canelo can hurt ANY Jr middleweight in the world, he has power bro, now all time great power probably not, but he can crack.
I just don't think it's even remotely possible that Canelo gets the opportunity to land clean on Mayweather.
But......that's why they fight. I'm still excited to be there no matter what.
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If he's so devastating of a puncher why didn't he finish him then?
Trout dusted himself off and took Canelo 12.
Dude stop it
Mike Tyson couldn't finish Buster Douglas after the knock down , Matthysse couldn't finish Alexander or Judah , Maidana couldn't finish glass jaw Amir Khan ........................ ........................ .......
your logic =stupid
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Dude stop it
Mike Tyson couldn't finish Buster Douglas after the knock down , Matthysse couldn't finish Alexander or Judah , Maidana couldn't finish glass jaw Amir Khan ........................ ........................ .......
your logic =stupid
What's stupid is you comparing Canelo's power w/ Tyson and Matthysse-who doubts their power? Canelo's track record consists of not being able to finish off blown up junior middleweights. His history bears it out.
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What's stupid is you comparing Canelo's power w/ Tyson and Matthysee-who doubts their power? Canelo's track record consists of not being able to finish off blown up junior middleweights. His history bears it out.
You win , I'm out.
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I just don't think it's even remotely possible that Canelo gets the opportunity to land clean on Mayweather.
But......that's why they fight. I'm still excited to be there no matter what.
Canelo has a stiff hard jab too, will be key for any success. He Showed some decent head movement in the Trout fight, stamina is lacking though.
The fight interests me.
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You win , I'm out.
Don't let facts get in the way of your story. White flag accepted.
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You made sense until the Hearns comment. Then totally fuck'd up w/ the Berto one. Berto sucks-there's nobody, especially Floyd or Pac avoiding that dude.
how do you figure? berto is a quick reflex banger, who doesn't understand spacing, which allows him to fall right in the lap of mexican boxers.
you're doing dope, if you think manny or fmw want to exchange with him on the ropes.
if he is so BAD, why haven't they given him a shoot? even with two loses in a row, he is a money tree for hbo boxing. if you can sell 1 million ppvs with clottey, you damn sure can with berto. arum loves to match manny with guys coming off of loses. as far as fmw at the end of his career, he has no interest in a guy who MIGHT get a punch off faster than him. it's nice how he picked up berto's last two opponents, slow poor relax bangers ???
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Don't let facts get in the way of your story. White flag accepted.
oh brother, do you know who you are arguing with?
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how do you figure? berto is a quick reflex banger, who doesn't understand spacing, which allows him to fall right in the lap of mexican boxers.
you're doing dope, if you think manny or fmw want to exchange with him on the ropes.
if he is so BAD, why haven't they given him a shoot? even with two loses in a row, he is a money tree for hbo boxing. if you can sell 1 million ppvs with clottey, you damn sure can with berto. arum loves to match manny with guys coming off of loses. as far as fmw at the end of his career, he has no interest in a guy who MIGHT get a punch off faster than him. it's nice how he picked up berto's last two opponents ???
Berto had two chances to fight Floyd. The 1st time was when he fought Ortiz. Mayweather was in attendence-scounting. He lost, guess who fought Money-Ortiz. Mayweather gave Berto another shot-beat Guerrero, he didn't. Guess who got the Mayweather fight. Berto is a benefactor of HBO. Haymon Boxing Office.
Pacquiao is a Top Rank fighter. Even though Berto was pomoted by Lou Di Bella, Top Rank rarely does business w/ Al Haymon managed fighters. Once Berto signed w/ Golden Boy he lost that opportunity all together.
Berto's a joke of a fighter.
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oh brother, do you know who you are arguing with?
Lol, please.
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Berto had two chances to fight Floyd. The 1st time was when he fought Ortiz. Mayweather was in attendence-scounting. He lost, guess who fought Money-Ortiz. Mayweather gave Berto another shot-beat Guerrero, he didn't. Guess who got the Mayweather fight. Berto is a benefactor of HBO. Haymon Boxing Office.
Pacquiao is a Top Rank fighter. Even though Berto was pomoted by Lou Di Bella, Top Rank rarely does business w/ Al Haymon managed fighters. Once Berto signed w/ Golden Boy he lost that opportunity all together.
Berto's a joke of a fighter.
You're doing drugs. FMW wasn't taking the Berto fight, even if he had won either.
Anyway, Arum loves to pick losing fighters for Manny. They didn't even bother grabbing a sluggers check against Berto.
Berto makes money for HBO, so it's BULLSHIT about him not drawing with his style.
Like I said, it's about his hand speed and the intention, in which he throws punches.
It's the same with Sergio Martinez, a smaller structured man, who can come down to a catch weight like Carnelo and Margarito. Another one with lightening reflexes with power attached to his shots.
Keep believing FMW and Manny are taking the hardest matchups.
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I still think FMJ beats Manny at any point in time
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I still think FMJ beats Manny at any point in time
Too small for FMW. When does his contract end with Top Rank before Arum uses him up? FMW won't fight an Arum fighter. He could slap pillow punching Bradley around, and now, he won't touch him since he signed with TR.
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Good post G
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Good post G
I think people miss that FMW had Bradley on his short term rador before the Alexander fight. Of course Arum signed him right in the ring after the win.
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Berto makes money for HBO, so it's BULLSHIT about him not drawing with his style.
No he doesn't. Berto's exclusive HBO deal was strictly because of Al Haymon his manager. His HBO deal is regarded as one of the biggest jokes in the industry. Andre barely draws any fans in his home state let alone Vegas.
It's the same with Sergio Martinez, a smaller structured man, who can come down to a catch weight like Carnelo and Margarito.
I have no idea what you're even talking about here. Sergio Martinez was at such a higher level than Berto ever was. They aren't even comparable in any way shape or form. Martinez is a natural 154lb fighter that had to go up in weight to get meaningful fights. A matter of fact-the WBC stripped him of his belt and let Canelo fight Matthew Hatton fight for it, which was a joke.
Berto is a never has-never was. He got exposed by Collazo then got put out to pasture by Ortiz and Guerrero. That dude's finished.
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I still think FMJ beats Manny at any point in time
once upon a time manny had footwork and angles that could give floyd problems
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Berto is a let down
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HBO and Goldenboy don't work together anymore.
So Berto is on Showtime now, he sucks lol
Weak chin, no defense, flat flooted....