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2 confirmed dead :'(
http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/07/06/boeing-777-crash-lands-at-san-francisco-international-airport/
A Boeing 777 airliner, operated by Asiana Airlines, crashed on landing at San Francisco International Airport on Saturday. Flight 214 was en route from Seoul, South Korea to the Bay Area. San Francisco fire chief Joanna Hayes-White confirms that two people are dead, 181 people were injured — 49 seriously. Here’s an account of the first six hours of breaking news from the scene.
8:51 p.m.: The Associated Press now reports that just one person is unaccounted for after the crash. A total of 181 were injured — 49 seriously.
7:38 p.m.: From the White House: Soon after the plane crash in San Francisco, CA, the President was made aware of the incident by Lisa Monaco, Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism. The President will continue to be updated as new information becomes available. The President expressed his gratitude for the first responders and directed his team to stay in constant contact with the federal, state and local partners as they investigate and respond to this event. His thoughts and prayers go out to the families who lost a loved one and all those affected by the crash. —Zeke Miller
7:20 p.m.: San Francisco fire chief Joanne Hayes-White has confirmed that two people have died in the incident. There were a total of 307 people on the plane — 291 passengers and 16 crew members, Hayes-White said. Approximately 130 people have been transported to area hospitals, and 60 passengers are unaccounted for. Around 2:45 PST, the investigation was turned over to the FBI, who will be coordinating with the NTSB. FBI Special Agent in Charge David Johnson said that there is no indication that terrorism was involved.
7:10 p.m.: The New York Times has a graphic that outlines the plane’s landing path and where the aircraft’s broken pieces came to rest. According to the graph, the plane skid about 2,000 feet before stopping to the left of the runway.
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2 confirmed dead :'(
http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/07/06/boeing-777-crash-lands-at-san-francisco-international-airport/
http://jalopnik.com/twitter-user-accidentally-captures-image-of-boeing-777-687945526 (http://jalopnik.com/twitter-user-accidentally-captures-image-of-boeing-777-687945526)
http://jalopnik.com/an-airplane-is-on-fire-at-san-franciso-airport-687365560 (http://jalopnik.com/an-airplane-is-on-fire-at-san-franciso-airport-687365560)
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the tail hit the ground first. Pilot Error.
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:(
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That's the ki d of crash I'd like to be on. That, or the one sully landed in the water.
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That's the ki d of crash I'd like to be on. That, or the one sully landed in the water.
True, because the likelihood of being in a 2nd crash in your lifetime would be almost nil.
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I smell Pilot Error all over this.....it has to be pilot error....his license should be taken away from him......how the fuck you're landing this huge plane on a clear sky, bright sunshine and you came short of this huge runway and below the 1000 feet limit.....that fucker has some explaining to do...I'm sure he's a fucking korean pilot......
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Facebook COO makes plane crash about herself...how fitting
http://valleywag.gawker.com/sheryl-sandberg-successfully-makes-sf-plane-crash-about-688791662 (http://valleywag.gawker.com/sheryl-sandberg-successfully-makes-sf-plane-crash-about-688791662)
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I smell Pilot Error all over this.....it has to be pilot error....his license should be taken away from him......how the fuck you're landing this huge plane on a clear sky, bright sunshine and you came short of this huge runway and below the 1000 feet limit.....that fucker has some explaining to do...I'm sure he's a fucking korean pilot......
It is.
Witnesses say the plane hit the sea wall during landing. Totally pilot fuck up.
Asians can't see well enough to fly planes?
???
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It is.
Witnesses say the plane hit the sea wall during landing. Totally pilot fuck up.
Asians can't see well enough to fly planes?
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thats fucked.
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One thing that could cause that plane to impact the runway early at the wrong angle would be a catastrophic bird strike. At low approach speed, bird strikes can result in crashes if pilots mishandle the controls to react to the power loss of the engine. The first thing investigators will look at are the engines, and then the controls. FDR info will help piece things together. If indeed this was pilot error, those pilots will never fly again. Their career is over.
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It is.
Witnesses say the plane hit the sea wall during landing. Totally pilot fuck up.
Asians can't see well enough to fly planes?
???
Maybe an Asian woman? I know they have a knack for flipping SUV's on the side of the freeway.
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Obviously this could be pilot error, but wind gusts are a real thing that do put planes in the dirt. I'm not saying that's what did this, but it's not safe to assume pilot error on this one until it is all ruled out. There are things like wind shear and macrobursts that will straight up kill flyers. Watch any video on youtube of crosswind landings. I've personally seen planes get slammed on their ass on short final and thought to myself "glad that didn't happen 100ft earlier".
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Great.....fuckers can't drive nor fly!!!
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I'm here in SF. Pilot came in low and slow. Under shot runway. Pilot error. The PC media with say "wait for all the facts" but the fact is the plane hit the sea wall at the end of the runway during a totally normal non-emergency approach on a day with fine weather.
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I'm here in SF. Pilot came in low and slow. Under shot runway. Pilot error. The PC media with say "wait for all the facts" but the fact is the plane hit the sea wall at the end of the runway during a totally normal non-emergency approach on a day with fine weather.
As getbiggers would say..."Korean Pilot of Peace".
As I've noted in the past, I'll pass on China, India, Africa and Russian airlines. I guess Korea goes on the short list too.
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Ban airplanes and koreans
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Ban airplanes and koreans
;D
and sea walls and gravity.
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from wiki
fuck koreans
Incidents and accidents
On 26 July 1993, Asiana Airlines Flight 733, a Boeing 737–500 (HL7229) crashed in poor weather about 4 kilometres short of the runway in Mokpo while making its third landing attempt on runway 06 at Mokpo Airport. Two of the 6 crew members and 66 of the 110 passengers on board were killed.[33]
On 11 November 1998, an Asiana Airlines Boeing 747-400 attempting a U-Turn in the gate area of Ted Stevens Anchorage International Airport embedded its winglet into an Aeroflot Ilyushin Il-62M tail. No one was injured. Asiana was subsequently sued by Aeroflot. The Il-62M in this incident is now retired and is parked at Ted Stevens Anchorage International Airport with the Asiana winglet still embedded in its tail.[34]
On 19 August 2004, Asiana Airlines flight 204, a Boeing 747 flying into Los Angeles International Airport from Incheon, South Korea, had a near-collision with Southwest Airlines Flight 411, a Boeing 737, as a result of an air-traffic control error. The pilot of the Asiana flight aborted the landing, saving both planes.[35]
On 29 April 2009, an Asiana Airlines Boeing 777, flight 271, flying between Seattle-Tacoma International Airport (SEA) and Incheon Airport (ICN), with 179 passengers and 16 crew aboard made an emergency landing shortly after takeoff from SEA after fire and smoke was seen coming from the left engine. The plane dumped fuel over Puget Sound before landing safely around 3:30 pm at Seatac. A compressor stall was later deemed to be the cause of the incident as of May 4, 2009.[36]
On 28 July 2011, Asiana Airlines Cargo Flight 991 bound for Shanghai Pudong Airport from Incheon Airport, operated by a Boeing 747-400F, crashed into the Pacific Ocean off Jeju Island, South Korea, after reporting a fire in the cargo compartment.[37]
Wikinews has related news: Asiana Boeing 777 crashes upon landing at San Francisco International Airport
On 6 July 2013, Asiana Airlines Flight 214, a Boeing 777-200ER (HL7742) from Seoul's Incheon International Airport bound for San Francisco, crash landed and burst into flames to the side of Runway 28L at San Francisco International Airport, killing 2 of the 307 on board and injuring 181 (5 critically). This is also the first fatal crash involving a Boeing 777.[38]
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Mr miyagi should stick to karate training white kids from the valley
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from wiki
fuck koreans
Incidents and accidents
On 26 July 1993, Asiana Airlines Flight 733, a Boeing 737–500 (HL7229) crashed in poor weather about 4 kilometres short of the runway in Mokpo while making its third landing attempt on runway 06 at Mokpo Airport. Two of the 6 crew members and 66 of the 110 passengers on board were killed.[33]
On 11 November 1998, an Asiana Airlines Boeing 747-400 attempting a U-Turn in the gate area of Ted Stevens Anchorage International Airport embedded its winglet into an Aeroflot Ilyushin Il-62M tail. No one was injured. Asiana was subsequently sued by Aeroflot. The Il-62M in this incident is now retired and is parked at Ted Stevens Anchorage International Airport with the Asiana winglet still embedded in its tail.[34]
On 19 August 2004, Asiana Airlines flight 204, a Boeing 747 flying into Los Angeles International Airport from Incheon, South Korea, had a near-collision with Southwest Airlines Flight 411, a Boeing 737, as a result of an air-traffic control error. The pilot of the Asiana flight aborted the landing, saving both planes.[35]
On 29 April 2009, an Asiana Airlines Boeing 777, flight 271, flying between Seattle-Tacoma International Airport (SEA) and Incheon Airport (ICN), with 179 passengers and 16 crew aboard made an emergency landing shortly after takeoff from SEA after fire and smoke was seen coming from the left engine. The plane dumped fuel over Puget Sound before landing safely around 3:30 pm at Seatac. A compressor stall was later deemed to be the cause of the incident as of May 4, 2009.[36]
On 28 July 2011, Asiana Airlines Cargo Flight 991 bound for Shanghai Pudong Airport from Incheon Airport, operated by a Boeing 747-400F, crashed into the Pacific Ocean off Jeju Island, South Korea, after reporting a fire in the cargo compartment.[37]
Wikinews has related news: Asiana Boeing 777 crashes upon landing at San Francisco International Airport
On 6 July 2013, Asiana Airlines Flight 214, a Boeing 777-200ER (HL7742) from Seoul's Incheon International Airport bound for San Francisco, crash landed and burst into flames to the side of Runway 28L at San Francisco International Airport, killing 2 of the 307 on board and injuring 181 (5 critically). This is also the first fatal crash involving a Boeing 777.[38]
Top 5 Worst Commercial Pilot Training
1 China
2 Africa
3 Russia
4 India
5 Korea
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Top 5 Worst Commercial Pilot Training
1 China
2 Africa
3 Russia
4 India
5 Korea
well not true
air china
ncidents and accidents
15 April 2002: Air China Flight 129, a Boeing 767-200ER from Beijing to Busan, South Korea, crashed into a hill while trying to land at Gimhae International Airport during inclement weather, killing 129 of the 166 people on board.[37] This is Air China's first and only accident.[38]
air india
Accidents and incidents
On 23 January 2013, the Jet Airliner Crash Data Evaluation Centre (JACDEC) announced that Air India had the third worst safety record among 60 international airlines that were reviewed.[95] Ten Air India flights have fatally crashed, including those due to terrorist attacks. Air India has a record of 6.82 fatal events per million flights.[96]
1950s
On 3 November 1950 Air India Flight 245 Malabar Princess a Lockheed L-749 Constellation (registered VT-CQP) carrying 48 people (40 passengers and 8 crew), flying on the Bombay-Cairo-Geneva-London route, crashed on Mont Blanc, France, killing all on board.[97][98]
On 11 April 1955 Kashmir Princess a Lockheed L-749A Constellation registered (VT-DEP) carrying 19 people (11 passengers and 8 crew) was bombed in midair, killing 16 of the 19 on board.[99]
On 19 July 1959 Rani of Aera a Lockheed L-1049G Super Constellation (registered VT-DIN) carrying 46 people (39 passengers and 7 crew) approached Santacruz Airport in conditions of poor visibility due to rain. The captain was using an altimeter with the barometric pressure set at 29.92". An overshoot was delayed and the aircraft crashed and suffered damage beyond repair. There were no fatalities.
The Air India Memorial in Toronto, Canada dedicated to the victims of Air India Flight 182
1960s
On 24 January 1966 Air India Flight 101 Kanchenjunga a Boeing 707–420 (registered VT-DMN) carrying 117 people (106 passengers and 11 crew) crashed on Mont Blanc, France, on the border between France and Italy, killing all on board. Among the dead was the noted Indian scientist, Homi J. Bhabha.
1970s
On 1 January 1978 Air India Flight 855 Emperor Ashoka a Boeing 747-237B (registered VT-EBD) crashed into the Arabian Sea after takeoff from Sahar International Airport (now Chhatrapati Shivaji International Airport) in Mumbai, killing all on board (213 persons; 190 passengers, 23 crew).
1980s
On 21 June 1982 Air India Flight 403 Gouri Shankar a Boeing 707–420 (registered VT-DJJ) carrying 99 passengers and 12 crew from Kuala Lumpur International Airport via Madras (now Chennai) crashed at Sahar International Airport after a heavy landing during a rainstorm. The fuselage exploded after starting a late go-around. Two crew members and 15 passengers were killed.[100][101]
On 23 June 1985 Air India Flight 182 Emperor Kanishka a Boeing 747-237B (registered VT-EFO) was blown up in mid-air, mid-flight by a suitcase-bomb planted by Babbar Khalsa Terrorists allegedly as revenge for the Indian Government's operation on the Golden Temple on June 1984. The flight was on the first leg on its Montreal-London-Delhi-Bombay flight when it exploded off the coast of Cork, Ireland. The plane crashed into the Atlantic Ocean. All 307 passengers and 22 crew on board died.[102] After this incident Air India suspended all services to Montreal.
1990s
On 7 May 1990 Air India Flight 132 Emperor Vikramaditya a Boeing 747-237B (registered VT-EBO) flying on the London-Delhi-Bombay route and carrying 215 people (195 passengers and 20 crew) touched down at Delhi's Indira Gandhi International Airport after a flight from London's Heathrow Airport. On application of reverse thrust, a failure of the no. 1 engine pylon to wing attachment caused this engine to tilt nose down. Hot exhaustion gases caused a fire on the left wing. There were no fatalities but the aircraft was damaged beyond repair and written off.[103]
2010s
7 April 2013, 08:55, During a flight Bangkok-Delhi with 166 passengers. 30 minutes later the first officer (co-pilot) excused himself cockpit for a bathroom break and got a flight attendant to occupy his seat. A few minutes later the Captain also left the cockpit after he spent a few minutes to teach the now, two flight attendants on how to operate the aircraft. The pilot and co-pilot then left the flight attendants to operate the aircraft by themselves while they them self took a 40 minute nap in business class. However one of the flight attendants shut off the autopilot by mistake and thus endangered the lives of everyone on board and forced the pilots to rush back. All four were derostered and later suspended. A member of a government-appointed aviation safety panel, blamed the lackadaisical attitude of the Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA) for the increase in air safety violations.[104]
us airways
Incidents and accidents
The incidents and crashes listed below include only those of US Airways and US Air (and not predecessor or merger airlines such as Allegheny, Piedmont, PSA or America West; or partnering regional commuter airlines operating US Airways flights under the brand US Airways Express).
US Airways Reported Incidents [hide]Flight Date Aircraft Location Description Injuries
Fatal Serious Minor Uninjured
5050[100] September 20, 1989 Boeing 737-400 Flushing, New York Deflection of rudder during takeoff 2 3 18 40
1493[101] February 1, 1991 Boeing 737-300 Los Angeles, California ATC controller separation error 34 13 17 37
405[102] March 22, 1992 Fokker 28-4000 Flushing, New York Improper deicing procedures, pilot error 27 9 12 3
1016[103] July 2, 1994 McDonnell Douglas DC-9-32 Charlotte, North Carolina Windshear during missed approach 37 16 4
427[104] September 8, 1994 Boeing 737-300 Hopewell Township, Beaver County, Penn. Uncommanded rudder deflection 132
1549 January 15, 2009 Airbus A320-200 New York Bird strike in engines, and dual engine failure (NTSB) 2 3 150
united airlines
Incidents and accidents
1930s NC13304 Flight 6 NC13317[134] NC13323[135] NC13355[136]
1940s Flight 521 Flight 608 Flight 624
1950s Flight 129 Flight 610 Flight 615 Flight 409 Flight 629 Flight 718 Flight 736
1960s Flight 826 Flight 859 Flight 297 Flight 823 Flight 389 Flight 227 Flight 266
1970s Flight 553 Flight 2860 Flight 173
1980s Flight 811 Flight 232
1990s Flight 585 Flight 826
2000s Flight 175 Flight 93
2010s Flight 663
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As getbiggers would say..."Korean Pilot of Peace".
As I've noted in the past, I'll pass on China, India, Africa and Russian airlines. I guess Korea goes on the short list too.
My job requires me to fly quite a bit. You get to the point whereby you can kind of predict when a landing is going to be soft or hard. I was once on Kenya Airways. The landing was so soft, it was a little difficult telling when we actually touched down. This flight was one of the few times we used an African airline, and from what I'm told, this landing was very much unlike the norm. The entire crew (Pilots and Fight Attendants) were black, and the women were some of the most beautiful women I've ever seen.
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Shithole.
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would never fly American made plane.
Difference between Euro and American product, be it cars or planes is like night and day.
American is like Chinese; looks shiny but breakes up when you would need it ;D
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would never fly American made plane.
Difference between Euro and American product, be it cars or planes is like night and day.
American is like Chinese; looks shiny but breakes up when you would need it ;D
i fly a lot and I can't tell the difference between a Boeing and an Airbus in terms of quality.
I'm sure you can look it up but I would say that almost all airlines and manufacturers have a about the same history of safety.
They are all very very high.
There are literally millions of flights a year and you have maybe 1 or 2 incidents of anything going wrong.
That's better than any other form of transportation. Period.
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i fly a lot and I can't tell the difference between a Boeing and an Airbus in terms of quality.
I'm sure you can look it up but I would say that almost all airlines and manufacturers have a about the same history of safety.
They are all very very high.
There are literally millions of flights a year and you have maybe 1 or 2 incidents of anything going wrong.
That's better than any other form of transportation. Period.
American airlines used lots of airbus planes and boeing as well...the new american airlines fleet are now using the new boeing 777 and I heard there will be a couple 737 as well....jetblue uses airbus exclusively while southwest uses Boeing 737 exclusively....maybe airbus give great discounts....lol....as far as safety records, I think both airbus and boeing had their moments....mcdonald douglas planes were some of the shittiest products.....here's the safety records for the DC-9
As of March 2009, the DC-9 has been involved in 117 incidents, including 101 hull-loss accidents,[31] with 2,135 fatalities
and here's another safety records for the MD-80
As of February 2013, the MD-80 series has been involved in 61 incidents,[31] including 31 hull-loss accidents,[32] with 1,330 fatalities of occupants
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flying may still be the safest mode of transportation, but when disater strikes, it goes out with a Bang....here's a crash records from 1999 up to last year
year deaths # of accidents
2012 794 119
2011 828 117
2010 1,115 130
2009 1,103 122
2008 884 156
2007 971 147
2006 1,294 166
2005 1,459 185
2004 71 172
2003 1,230 199
2002 1,413 185
2001 4,140 200
2000 1,582 189
1999 1,138 211
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flying may still be the safest mode of transportation, but when disater strikes, it goes out with a Bang....here's a crash records from 1999 up to last year
year deaths # of accidents
2012 794 119
2011 828 117
2010 1,115 130
2009 1,103 122
2008 884 156
2007 971 147
2006 1,294 166
2005 1,459 185
2004 71 172
2003 1,230 199
2002 1,413 185
2001 4,140 200
2000 1,582 189
1999 1,138 211
2004 was a good year to fly. I hate flying and should've never clicked this thread.
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flying may still be the safest mode of transportation, but when disater strikes, it goes out with a Bang....here's a crash records from 1999 up to last year
year deaths # of accidents
2012 794 119
2011 828 117
2010 1,115 130
2009 1,103 122
2008 884 156
2007 971 147
2006 1,294 166
2005 1,459 185
2004 71 172
2003 1,230 199
2002 1,413 185
2001 4,140 200
2000 1,582 189
1999 1,138 211
No disagreement, but there are literally 50,000 flights per day.
That's 1.5 million flights a month. What's that? About .00013%?
Way more accidents in every other transportation method.
No doubt, if it hits the fan, odds are, you're done.
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No disagreement, but there are literally 50,000 flights per day.
That's 1.5 million flights a month. What's that? About .00013%?
Way more accidents in every other transportation method.
No doubt, if it hits the fan, odds are, you're done.
lol...that's the catch....it maybe safer than other means of transportation, but when shit happens, everyone pays
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2004 was a good year to fly. I hate flying and should've never clicked this thread.
I don't mind flying, but I hate turbulences.....it always make me feels like that shit is gonna flip and take a nose dive.. :'(
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flying may still be the safest mode of transportation, but when disater strikes, it goes out with a Bang....here's a crash records from 1999 up to last year
year deaths # of accidents
2012 794 119
2011 828 117
2010 1,115 130
2009 1,103 122
2008 884 156
2007 971 147
2006 1,294 166
2005 1,459 185
2004 71 172
2003 1,230 199
2002 1,413 185
2001 4,140 200
2000 1,582 189
1999 1,138 211
Something that needs to be put in perspective here are the sheer total amount of flights per year compared to the number of fatal incidents. Not to mention many of these incidents are VFR pilots being absolutely retarded. I deal with thousands of flights per day and we have an incident only 2-3 times a year. That is only my facility, not including the rest of the U.S. (or world). It is almost ALWAYS a general aviation pilot being a knuckle head, or some poor guy who got rocked on his landing with a bad gust or crosswind that increases these numbers.
I myself would never train to be a pilot after being in m career field for as long as I have been, but it is hard to not recognize the statistics. The sheer amount of redundancy layered over redundancy in the interest of safety is pretty mind boggling when it comes to flying.
Think of it like this. How often do you think there would be traffic accidents if all cars were literally forced to stay 1/4 mile behind each other at all times, and that there was a physical person at each stop light/intersection dictating when and which cars could proceed? That's a simplified explanation of how flying works (unless you go VFR and basically say I GOT THIS!).
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(http://www.csmonitor.com/var/ezflow_site/storage/images/media/content/2013/0206-mb-deborah-hersman-ntsb-secretary/14960409-1-eng-US/0206-mb-deborah-hersman-ntsb-secretary_full_600.jpg)
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(http://images.politico.com/global/2011/12/111219_deborah_hersman_ap_328.jpg)
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(http://cdn01.cdn.justjared.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/moynahan-lane/bridget-moynahan-neil-lane-09.jpg)
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obviously a punishment from God for them even considering renaming the SF Airport "Harvey Milk Airport"
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(http://cdn02.cdn.justjared.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/moynahan-lane/bridget-moynahan-neil-lane-04.jpg)
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Video of crash
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The NTSB initial findings are showing evidence of serious pilot error so far.
Video of crash
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Got you bro!
Also, hello fellow jalopnik reader.
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The NTSB initial findings are showing evidence of serious pilot error so far.
Got you bro!
Also, hello fellow jalopnik reader.
Thanks...and yep...
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Asiana Flight 214 pilot had 43 hours of training.
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Boeing is going to want everything in the investigation point to pilot error.
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They said it looks like one girl died because the emergency truck ran over her.
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Something that needs to be put in perspective here are the sheer total amount of flights per year compared to the number of fatal incidents. Not to mention many of these incidents are VFR pilots being absolutely retarded. I deal with thousands of flights per day and we have an incident only 2-3 times a year. That is only my facility, not including the rest of the U.S. (or world). It is almost ALWAYS a general aviation pilot being a knuckle head, or some poor guy who got rocked on his landing with a bad gust or crosswind that increases these numbers.
I myself would never train to be a pilot after being in m career field for as long as I have been, but it is hard to not recognize the statistics. The sheer amount of redundancy layered over redundancy in the interest of safety is pretty mind boggling when it comes to flying.
Think of it like this. How often do you think there would be traffic accidents if all cars were literally forced to stay 1/4 mile behind each other at all times, and that there was a physical person at each stop light/intersection dictating when and which cars could proceed? That's a simplified explanation of how flying works (unless you go VFR and basically say I GOT THIS!).
well, it seems like the reports are starting to come out a bit now about this Crash and Pilot Error is a front runner.......they said this pilot had very little training on this Boeing 777 prior to this flight and the flight data recorder showed that at 5 miles till landing, the plane was going too fast and was at a high altitude and the pilot was not taking final approach procedures and by the time he had the plane ready to land, they were going too slow, too low and had very little time to recover and then Boom!!,........WOW, a pilot with little experience on this model Plane was trusted to fly 309 souls on a 12hr flight.....that wasn't smart
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Asiana Flight 214 pilot had 43 hours of training.
hahahahahha.....Oh my freaking goodness......this airline should be severely punished......I bet you those 43hrs of training were on a Simulator....that punk ass pilot never flew the 777 before and he was trusted with the lives of 309 people.....only in South Korea you'll see bullshit like this.. ;)
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http://kotaku.com/asiana-airlines-headline-called-racist-and-in-bad-ta-699270861
Not sure if it was intentional but funny nonetheless
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18t7klxqpicm4jpg/ku-xlarge.jpg)
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Inauspicious :(
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After watching that crash I'm pretty amazed only two people died. Obviously it's a tragedy, but holy crap that could have been so much worse.
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After watching that crash I'm pretty amazed only two people died. Obviously it's a tragedy, but holy crap that could have been so much worse.
The 777 is an amazing aircraft. Hail to the almighty GOD for giving mankind the ability to use our fucking brains to create such wondrous works of engineering and design, despite our total inability to control the fucking weather.
And yes, the NTSB chick is hot as hell. Would do. Would definitely do. Hell, even though she works for the guh-ment, I'd wife that shit.
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Boeing 777 doesn't allow the pilot to land on autopilot?
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Our PC Bullshit is never ending. Dude was inexperienced and incompetent and crashed the fucking plane. The end.
From this morning's SF Chronicle:
"It was unclear if the pilot's inexperience with the aircraft and airport played a role in Saturday's crash. Officials were investigating whether the airport or plane's equipment could have also malfunctioned."
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YES "YOUR GOD" Caused this Accident
Can you smell the Aroma of Queer on this Studs voice
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God?
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God?
OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD!
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All the people killed in Obama's corrupt backyard (Chicago) over the weekend, and all the media attention is on a plane crash in San Fagcisco.
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south side of chicago is a shit hole
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chicago is a shit hole
I love chicago
Never been deep into south chicago, but love the city
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Boeing 777 doesn't allow the pilot to land on autopilot?
The pilot and co-pilot are supposed to be working in tandem during the decent and final approach. The co-pilot is supposed to be doing continuous call-outs (air speed, altitude, etc.) and literally puts their hands on the controls if the pilot isn't following strict procedures.
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The pilot and co-pilot are supposed to be working in tandem during the decent and final approach. The co-pilot is supposed to be doing continuous call-outs (air speed, altitude, etc.) and literally puts their hands on the controls if the pilot isn't following strict procedures.
You couldn't be more wrong if you'd tried.
In the airline world, their is no such thing as a "pilot" or "copilot".
We call them "Captain" and "First Officer" and they trade off roles as the "pilot flying" (PF) & "pilot not flying" (PNF).
Their roles and duties are interchangeable on each flight (at most airlines). So if the First Officer was acting as the PF during this flight while going through training, the Captainis ultimately responsible for the safety of that flight.
Their is no "taking over" of controls. The one thing you are correct about is that they are supposed to work as a team. The rest is patently false.
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Look for something much bigger in the news over the next few days to make this story go away.
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You couldn't be more wrong if you'd tried.
In the airline world, their is no such thing as a "pilot" or "copilot".
We call them "Captain" and "First Officer" and they trade off roles as the "pilot flying" (PF) & "pilot not flying" (PNF).
Their roles and duties are interchangeable on each flight (at most airlines). So if the First Officer was acting as the PF during this flight while going through training, the Captainis ultimately responsible for the safety of that flight.
Their is no "taking over" of controls. The one thing you are correct about is that they are supposed to work as a team. The rest is patently false.
Boloney! The PNF doesn't want to crash and die any more than anyone else and will take necessary action.
Sorry for not using official aviation lingo ::)
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Never been deep into south chicago, but love the city
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Boloney! The PNF doesn't want to crash and die any more than anyone else and will take necessary action.
Sorry for not using official aviation lingo ::)
It's cool. I may not know a lot about how to be cool on getbig, but I know a lot about airline operations.
An instructors job is to teach. By the time that F/O has reached the flight deck, they have already been trained in a flight simulator. So the instructor could have given the PF too much leeway.
It's cool you didn't use the correct airline terminology, but maybe don't spout off about topics you're not fully informed of?
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Safe to say the flying career for these two pilots is over.
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Safe to say the flying career for these two pilots is over.
Too many guys are autopilot addicts in the sim and cannot fly the aircraft.
Things happen fast in the last few minutes and even the best captain might not be able to save the day, even though they are always held accountable. At SFO they didn't get low and slow in a split second, somebody should have seen that coming. There were 4 pilots in that cockpit and nobody said or did anything until it was way too late to recover. How does that happen? Sounds like there might be a cultural thing involved.