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First-ever fatal crash of Boeing 777 today (SFO)
« on: July 06, 2013, 02:13:22 PM »
2 confirmed dead  :'(

http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/07/06/boeing-777-crash-lands-at-san-francisco-international-airport/

A Boeing 777 airliner, operated by Asiana Airlines, crashed on landing at San Francisco International Airport on Saturday. Flight 214 was en route from Seoul, South Korea to the Bay Area. San Francisco fire chief Joanna Hayes-White confirms that two people are dead, 181 people were injured — 49 seriously. Here’s an account of the first six hours of breaking news from the scene.

8:51 p.m.: The Associated Press now reports that just one person is unaccounted for after the crash. A total of 181 were injured — 49 seriously.

7:38 p.m.: From the White House: Soon after the plane crash in San Francisco, CA, the President was made aware of the incident by Lisa Monaco, Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism.  The President will continue to be updated as new information becomes available.  The President expressed his gratitude for the first responders and directed his team to stay in constant contact with the federal, state and local partners as they investigate and respond to this event.  His thoughts and prayers go out to the families who lost a loved one and all those affected by the crash. —Zeke Miller

7:20 p.m.: San Francisco fire chief Joanne Hayes-White has confirmed that two people have died in the incident. There were a total of 307 people on the plane — 291 passengers and 16 crew members, Hayes-White said. Approximately 130 people have been transported to area hospitals, and 60 passengers are unaccounted for. Around 2:45 PST, the investigation was turned over to the FBI, who will be coordinating with the NTSB. FBI Special Agent in Charge David Johnson said that there is no indication that terrorism was involved.

7:10 p.m.: The New York Times has a graphic that outlines the plane’s landing path and where the aircraft’s broken pieces came to rest. According to the graph, the plane skid about 2,000 feet before stopping to the left of the runway.


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Re: First-ever fatal crash of Boeing 777 today
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2013, 02:23:37 PM »
the tail hit the ground first. Pilot Error.

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Re: First-ever fatal crash of Boeing 777 today (SFO)
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2013, 03:23:20 PM »
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Re: First-ever fatal crash of Boeing 777 today (SFO)
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2013, 04:38:06 PM »
That's the ki d of crash I'd like to be on. That, or the one sully landed in the water.

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Re: First-ever fatal crash of Boeing 777 today (SFO)
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2013, 05:11:40 PM »
That's the ki d of crash I'd like to be on. That, or the one sully landed in the water.

True, because the likelihood of being in a 2nd crash in your lifetime would be almost nil.  

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Re: First-ever fatal crash of Boeing 777 today (SFO)
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2013, 06:56:03 PM »
I smell Pilot Error all over this.....it has to be pilot error....his license should be taken away from him......how the fuck you're landing this huge plane on a clear sky, bright sunshine and you came short of this huge runway and below the 1000 feet limit.....that fucker has some explaining to do...I'm sure he's a fucking korean pilot......

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Re: First-ever fatal crash of Boeing 777 today (SFO)
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2013, 07:06:27 PM »

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Re: First-ever fatal crash of Boeing 777 today (SFO)
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2013, 07:08:35 PM »
I smell Pilot Error all over this.....it has to be pilot error....his license should be taken away from him......how the fuck you're landing this huge plane on a clear sky, bright sunshine and you came short of this huge runway and below the 1000 feet limit.....that fucker has some explaining to do...I'm sure he's a fucking korean pilot......

It is.

Witnesses say the plane hit the sea wall during landing. Totally pilot fuck up.

Asians can't see well enough to fly planes?

???

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Re: First-ever fatal crash of Boeing 777 today (SFO)
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2013, 07:24:04 PM »
It is.

Witnesses say the plane hit the sea wall during landing. Totally pilot fuck up.

Asians can't see well enough to fly planes?

???

thats fucked.

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Re: First-ever fatal crash of Boeing 777 today (SFO)
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2013, 07:50:26 PM »
One thing that could cause that plane to impact the runway early at the wrong angle would be a catastrophic bird strike.  At low approach speed, bird strikes can result in crashes if pilots mishandle the controls to react to the power loss of the engine.  The first thing investigators will look at are the engines, and then the controls.  FDR info will help piece things together.   If indeed this was pilot error, those pilots will never fly again.  Their career is over.

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Re: First-ever fatal crash of Boeing 777 today (SFO)
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2013, 07:59:33 PM »
It is.

Witnesses say the plane hit the sea wall during landing. Totally pilot fuck up.

Asians can't see well enough to fly planes?

???

Maybe an Asian woman?  I know they have a knack for flipping SUV's on the side of the freeway. 

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Re: First-ever fatal crash of Boeing 777 today (SFO)
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2013, 09:37:58 PM »
Obviously this could be pilot error, but wind gusts are a real thing that do put planes in the dirt. I'm not saying that's what did this, but it's not safe to assume pilot error on this one until it is all ruled out. There are things like wind shear and macrobursts that will straight up kill flyers. Watch any video on youtube of crosswind landings. I've personally seen planes get slammed on their ass on short final and thought to myself "glad that didn't happen 100ft earlier".

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Re: First-ever fatal crash of Boeing 777 today (SFO)
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2013, 09:54:52 PM »
Great.....fuckers can't drive nor fly!!!
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Re: First-ever fatal crash of Boeing 777 today (SFO)
« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2013, 09:58:10 PM »
I'm here in SF. Pilot came in low and slow. Under shot runway. Pilot error.  The PC media with say "wait for all the facts" but the fact is the plane hit the sea wall at the end of the runway during a totally normal non-emergency approach on a day with fine weather.
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Re: First-ever fatal crash of Boeing 777 today (SFO)
« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2013, 10:03:38 PM »
I'm here in SF. Pilot came in low and slow. Under shot runway. Pilot error.  The PC media with say "wait for all the facts" but the fact is the plane hit the sea wall at the end of the runway during a totally normal non-emergency approach on a day with fine weather.

As getbiggers would say..."Korean Pilot of Peace".

As I've noted in the past, I'll pass on China, India, Africa and Russian airlines.  I guess Korea goes on the short list too. 

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Re: First-ever fatal crash of Boeing 777 today (SFO)
« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2013, 10:18:59 PM »
Ban airplanes and koreans

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Re: First-ever fatal crash of Boeing 777 today (SFO)
« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2013, 10:25:50 PM »
Ban airplanes and koreans


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Re: First-ever fatal crash of Boeing 777 today (SFO)
« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2013, 11:00:03 PM »
from wiki

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Incidents and accidents

    On 26 July 1993, Asiana Airlines Flight 733, a Boeing 737–500 (HL7229) crashed in poor weather about 4 kilometres short of the runway in Mokpo while making its third landing attempt on runway 06 at Mokpo Airport. Two of the 6 crew members and 66 of the 110 passengers on board were killed.[33]
    On 11 November 1998, an Asiana Airlines Boeing 747-400 attempting a U-Turn in the gate area of Ted Stevens Anchorage International Airport embedded its winglet into an Aeroflot Ilyushin Il-62M tail. No one was injured. Asiana was subsequently sued by Aeroflot. The Il-62M in this incident is now retired and is parked at Ted Stevens Anchorage International Airport with the Asiana winglet still embedded in its tail.[34]

    On 19 August 2004, Asiana Airlines flight 204, a Boeing 747 flying into Los Angeles International Airport from Incheon, South Korea, had a near-collision with Southwest Airlines Flight 411, a Boeing 737, as a result of an air-traffic control error. The pilot of the Asiana flight aborted the landing, saving both planes.[35]
    On 29 April 2009, an Asiana Airlines Boeing 777, flight 271, flying between Seattle-Tacoma International Airport (SEA) and Incheon Airport (ICN), with 179 passengers and 16 crew aboard made an emergency landing shortly after takeoff from SEA after fire and smoke was seen coming from the left engine. The plane dumped fuel over Puget Sound before landing safely around 3:30 pm at Seatac. A compressor stall was later deemed to be the cause of the incident as of May 4, 2009.[36]
    On 28 July 2011, Asiana Airlines Cargo Flight 991 bound for Shanghai Pudong Airport from Incheon Airport, operated by a Boeing 747-400F, crashed into the Pacific Ocean off Jeju Island, South Korea, after reporting a fire in the cargo compartment.[37]

   Wikinews has related news: Asiana Boeing 777 crashes upon landing at San Francisco International Airport

    On 6 July 2013, Asiana Airlines Flight 214, a Boeing 777-200ER (HL7742) from Seoul's Incheon International Airport bound for San Francisco, crash landed and burst into flames to the side of Runway 28L at San Francisco International Airport, killing 2 of the 307 on board and injuring 181 (5 critically). This is also the first fatal crash involving a Boeing 777.[38]

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Re: First-ever fatal crash of Boeing 777 today (SFO)
« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2013, 11:03:18 PM »
Mr miyagi should stick to karate training white kids from the valley

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Re: First-ever fatal crash of Boeing 777 today (SFO)
« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2013, 11:11:11 PM »
from wiki

fuck koreans

Incidents and accidents

    On 26 July 1993, Asiana Airlines Flight 733, a Boeing 737–500 (HL7229) crashed in poor weather about 4 kilometres short of the runway in Mokpo while making its third landing attempt on runway 06 at Mokpo Airport. Two of the 6 crew members and 66 of the 110 passengers on board were killed.[33]
    On 11 November 1998, an Asiana Airlines Boeing 747-400 attempting a U-Turn in the gate area of Ted Stevens Anchorage International Airport embedded its winglet into an Aeroflot Ilyushin Il-62M tail. No one was injured. Asiana was subsequently sued by Aeroflot. The Il-62M in this incident is now retired and is parked at Ted Stevens Anchorage International Airport with the Asiana winglet still embedded in its tail.[34]

    On 19 August 2004, Asiana Airlines flight 204, a Boeing 747 flying into Los Angeles International Airport from Incheon, South Korea, had a near-collision with Southwest Airlines Flight 411, a Boeing 737, as a result of an air-traffic control error. The pilot of the Asiana flight aborted the landing, saving both planes.[35]
    On 29 April 2009, an Asiana Airlines Boeing 777, flight 271, flying between Seattle-Tacoma International Airport (SEA) and Incheon Airport (ICN), with 179 passengers and 16 crew aboard made an emergency landing shortly after takeoff from SEA after fire and smoke was seen coming from the left engine. The plane dumped fuel over Puget Sound before landing safely around 3:30 pm at Seatac. A compressor stall was later deemed to be the cause of the incident as of May 4, 2009.[36]
    On 28 July 2011, Asiana Airlines Cargo Flight 991 bound for Shanghai Pudong Airport from Incheon Airport, operated by a Boeing 747-400F, crashed into the Pacific Ocean off Jeju Island, South Korea, after reporting a fire in the cargo compartment.[37]

   Wikinews has related news: Asiana Boeing 777 crashes upon landing at San Francisco International Airport

    On 6 July 2013, Asiana Airlines Flight 214, a Boeing 777-200ER (HL7742) from Seoul's Incheon International Airport bound for San Francisco, crash landed and burst into flames to the side of Runway 28L at San Francisco International Airport, killing 2 of the 307 on board and injuring 181 (5 critically). This is also the first fatal crash involving a Boeing 777.[38]


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Re: First-ever fatal crash of Boeing 777 today (SFO)
« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2013, 11:20:07 PM »
Top 5 Worst Commercial Pilot Training  

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    15 April 2002: Air China Flight 129, a Boeing 767-200ER from Beijing to Busan, South Korea, crashed into a hill while trying to land at Gimhae International Airport during inclement weather, killing 129 of the 166 people on board.[37] This is Air China's first and only accident.[38]

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On 23 January 2013, the Jet Airliner Crash Data Evaluation Centre (JACDEC) announced that Air India had the third worst safety record among 60 international airlines that were reviewed.[95] Ten Air India flights have fatally crashed, including those due to terrorist attacks. Air India has a record of 6.82 fatal events per million flights.[96]

1950s

    On 3 November 1950 Air India Flight 245 Malabar Princess a Lockheed L-749 Constellation (registered VT-CQP) carrying 48 people (40 passengers and 8 crew), flying on the Bombay-Cairo-Geneva-London route, crashed on Mont Blanc, France, killing all on board.[97][98]
    On 11 April 1955 Kashmir Princess a Lockheed L-749A Constellation registered (VT-DEP) carrying 19 people (11 passengers and 8 crew) was bombed in midair, killing 16 of the 19 on board.[99]
    On 19 July 1959 Rani of Aera a Lockheed L-1049G Super Constellation (registered VT-DIN) carrying 46 people (39 passengers and 7 crew) approached Santacruz Airport in conditions of poor visibility due to rain. The captain was using an altimeter with the barometric pressure set at 29.92". An overshoot was delayed and the aircraft crashed and suffered damage beyond repair. There were no fatalities.

The Air India Memorial in Toronto, Canada dedicated to the victims of Air India Flight 182

1960s

    On 24 January 1966 Air India Flight 101 Kanchenjunga a Boeing 707–420 (registered VT-DMN) carrying 117 people (106 passengers and 11 crew) crashed on Mont Blanc, France, on the border between France and Italy, killing all on board. Among the dead was the noted Indian scientist, Homi J. Bhabha.

1970s

    On 1 January 1978 Air India Flight 855 Emperor Ashoka a Boeing 747-237B (registered VT-EBD) crashed into the Arabian Sea after takeoff from Sahar International Airport (now Chhatrapati Shivaji International Airport) in Mumbai, killing all on board (213 persons; 190 passengers, 23 crew).

1980s

    On 21 June 1982 Air India Flight 403 Gouri Shankar a Boeing 707–420 (registered VT-DJJ) carrying 99 passengers and 12 crew from Kuala Lumpur International Airport via Madras (now Chennai) crashed at Sahar International Airport after a heavy landing during a rainstorm. The fuselage exploded after starting a late go-around. Two crew members and 15 passengers were killed.[100][101]
    On 23 June 1985 Air India Flight 182 Emperor Kanishka a Boeing 747-237B (registered VT-EFO) was blown up in mid-air, mid-flight by a suitcase-bomb planted by Babbar Khalsa Terrorists allegedly as revenge for the Indian Government's operation on the Golden Temple on June 1984. The flight was on the first leg on its Montreal-London-Delhi-Bombay flight when it exploded off the coast of Cork, Ireland. The plane crashed into the Atlantic Ocean. All 307 passengers and 22 crew on board died.[102] After this incident Air India suspended all services to Montreal.

1990s

    On 7 May 1990 Air India Flight 132 Emperor Vikramaditya a Boeing 747-237B (registered VT-EBO) flying on the London-Delhi-Bombay route and carrying 215 people (195 passengers and 20 crew) touched down at Delhi's Indira Gandhi International Airport after a flight from London's Heathrow Airport. On application of reverse thrust, a failure of the no. 1 engine pylon to wing attachment caused this engine to tilt nose down. Hot exhaustion gases caused a fire on the left wing. There were no fatalities but the aircraft was damaged beyond repair and written off.[103]

2010s

    7 April 2013, 08:55, During a flight Bangkok-Delhi with 166 passengers. 30 minutes later the first officer (co-pilot) excused himself cockpit for a bathroom break and got a flight attendant to occupy his seat. A few minutes later the Captain also left the cockpit after he spent a few minutes to teach the now, two flight attendants on how to operate the aircraft. The pilot and co-pilot then left the flight attendants to operate the aircraft by themselves while they them self took a 40 minute nap in business class. However one of the flight attendants shut off the autopilot by mistake and thus endangered the lives of everyone on board and forced the pilots to rush back. All four were derostered and later suspended. A member of a government-appointed aviation safety panel, blamed the lackadaisical attitude of the Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA) for the increase in air safety violations.[104]

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The incidents and crashes listed below include only those of US Airways and US Air (and not predecessor or merger airlines such as Allegheny, Piedmont, PSA or America West; or partnering regional commuter airlines operating US Airways flights under the brand US Airways Express).
US Airways Reported Incidents [hide]Flight    Date    Aircraft    Location    Description    Injuries
Fatal    Serious    Minor    Uninjured
5050[100]    September 20, 1989    Boeing 737-400    Flushing, New York    Deflection of rudder during takeoff    2    3    18    40
1493[101]    February 1, 1991    Boeing 737-300    Los Angeles, California    ATC controller separation error    34    13    17    37
405[102]    March 22, 1992    Fokker 28-4000    Flushing, New York    Improper deicing procedures, pilot error    27    9    12    3
1016[103]    July 2, 1994    McDonnell Douglas DC-9-32    Charlotte, North Carolina    Windshear during missed approach    37    16    4    
427[104]    September 8, 1994    Boeing 737-300    Hopewell Township, Beaver County, Penn.    Uncommanded rudder deflection    132          
1549    January 15, 2009    Airbus A320-200    New York    Bird strike in engines, and dual engine failure (NTSB)       2    3    150

united airlines

Incidents and accidents
1930s    NC13304    Flight 6    NC13317[134]    NC13323[135]    NC13355[136]       
1940s    Flight 521    Flight 608    Flight 624             
1950s    Flight 129    Flight 610    Flight 615    Flight 409    Flight 629    Flight 718    Flight 736
1960s    Flight 826    Flight 859    Flight 297    Flight 823    Flight 389    Flight 227    Flight 266
1970s    Flight 553    Flight 2860    Flight 173             
1980s    Flight 811    Flight 232                
1990s    Flight 585    Flight 826                
2000s    Flight 175    Flight 93                
2010s    Flight 663    

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Re: First-ever fatal crash of Boeing 777 today (SFO)
« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2013, 01:33:53 AM »
As getbiggers would say..."Korean Pilot of Peace".

As I've noted in the past, I'll pass on China, India, Africa and Russian airlines.  I guess Korea goes on the short list too. 

My job requires me to fly quite a bit.  You get to the point whereby you can kind of predict when a landing is going to be soft or hard.  I was once on Kenya Airways.  The landing was so soft, it was a little difficult telling when we actually touched down.  This flight was one of the few times we used an African airline, and from what I'm told, this landing was very much unlike the norm.  The entire crew (Pilots and Fight Attendants) were black, and the women were some of the most beautiful women I've ever seen.

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Re: First-ever fatal crash of Boeing 777 today (SFO)
« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2013, 03:50:08 AM »

Shithole.


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Re: First-ever fatal crash of Boeing 777 today (SFO)
« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2013, 03:51:24 AM »


would never fly American made plane.

Difference between Euro and American product, be it cars or planes is like night and day.
American is like Chinese; looks shiny but breakes up when you would need it  ;D