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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: FitnessFrenzy on August 18, 2013, 12:41:14 PM
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no chili, no dressing, no salad... this is from Phil Heath's Facebook:
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They dont have to be.
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Looks good enough for 2nd place.
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Looks good enough for 2nd place.
;D
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Imagine if you could build quality-muscle with just fat and sugar.
Then the meals would look different.
I'd be eating Pizza with extra cheese, Kebab, Kibbutz, Kolchos, Sovchos, Ahlgrens Bilar, Rock Candy, Chips and CHeese Doodles, Burger King and McDonalds, topping it off with Soft Drinks each and every day.
Black Bean Burritos
Kale Greens
Sea salt
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Imagine if you could build quality-muscle with just fat and sugar.
Then the meals would look different.
I'd be eating Pizza with extra cheese, Kebab, Kibbutz, Kolchos, Sovchos, Ahlgrens Bilar, Rock Candy, Chips and CHeese Doodles, Burger King and McDonalds, topping it off with Soft Drinks each and every day.
Black Bean Burritos
Kale Greens
Sea salt
You'd feel like shit all day. I feel like absolute shit when I eat garbage more than 2 days in a row.
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Bland and boring? What? That looks delicious.
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Bland and boring? What? That looks delicious.
Sure, but it could be even more delicious with salad, dressing etc
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Sure, but it could be even more delicious with salad, dressing etc
For dieting, I'd say that is far from bland though.
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Sure, but it could be even more delicious with salad, dressing etc
Some low/fat or fat free dressing would be fine.
They like to pretend they are suffering for their art.
Its just bullshit.
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Chilli: might upset his stomach.
Dressing: only off season.
Salad: most blacks don't eat veggies (check mr Coleman's vids).
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Chilli: might upset his stomach.
Dressing: only off season.
Salad: most blacks don't eat veggies (check mr Coleman's vids).
Most blacks don't eat veggies? Are you a fucking idiot? Serious question.
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no chili, no dressing, no salad... this is from Phil Heath's Facebook:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1175053_580881785309166_818793563_n.jpg)
Because male bodybuilders are notoriously lazy, bad cooks. Watch Antoine Vaillant's kitchen videos for examples of this. Toney Freeman is the only dude I've ever heard of who takes joy in preparing his meals (and he looks fucking excellent, so flavor is clearly not a physique destroyer).
Notice to lazy bodybuilders: I'll do your grocery shopping and prepare your meals to your macro specifications, and it'll all taste awesome. In exchange, you pay my rent (if you can pay your own, which may or may not be the case depending on how truly lazy you are.) Offer's on the table haha. Never eat wack shit again!
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Most blacks don't eat veggies? Are you a fucking idiot? Serious question.
My observation Wiggs, no pun
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a calorie is a calorie. Hope this helps.
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Notice to lazy bodybuilders: I'll do your grocery shopping and prepare your meals to your macro specifications, and it'll all taste awesome. In exchange, you pay my rent (if you can pay your own, which may or may not be the case depending on how truly lazy you are.) Offer's on the table haha. Never eat wack shit again!
How would YOUR version of Heaths dish look like?
Post either the ingredients or a Pic.
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Because male bodybuilders are notoriously lazy, bad cooks. Watch Antoine Vaillant's kitchen videos for examples of this. Toney Freeman is the only dude I've ever heard of who takes joy in preparing his meals (and he looks fucking excellent, so flavor is clearly not a physique destroyer).
Notice to lazy bodybuilders: I'll do your grocery shopping and prepare your meals to your macro specifications, and it'll all taste awesome. In exchange, you pay my rent (if you can pay your own, which may or may not be the case depending on how truly lazy you are.) Offer's on the table haha. Never eat wack shit again!
Correct. There are soooo many ways to season the poultry, fish and beef and adding various veggies and complex carbs. All it is, is lack of knowledge and laziness. BUT, if you're eating 5-7 times per day, every day, it becomes very difficult and time consuming just for meal prep to keep it interesting.
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Most blacks don't eat veggies? Are you a fucking idiot? Serious question.
Pretty sure I was raised on collards and longbeans. Where do people get this shit?
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That Tilapia looks dry and overcooked.
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Some low/fat or fat free dressing would be fine.
They like to pretend they are suffering for their art.
Its just bullshit.
I would honestly :rolleyes:, if asked, Phil said he was suffering through a meal like that. Even not dieting it looks good and appetizing.
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Chilli: might upset his stomach.
Dressing: only off season.
Salad: most blacks don't eat veggies (check mr Coleman's vids).
Corn? Watermelons?
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How would YOUR version of Heaths dish look like?
Post either the ingredients or a Pic.
It would include SPICES and maybe a vegetable or two (but the vegetables are just because I enjoy shitting like a regular human being. His Mr O plan may not allow for that sort of thing - what do I know?)
I make a lot of curry when I prep, and chili powder can make damn near anything taste like barbecue. You know what else rules? STEW. You still get everything you need and you can still measure it like anything else because everything is chunky, BUT it's flavorful. Can also be cooked IN BULK so you don't have to prepare meals a bazillion times a week...
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My observation Wiggs, no pun
Dude, world star hip hop Hebrews is not representative of all Hebrews. I dont remember if you're from here or not but that's like me using white trash and saying that's how all white people are and we know that's anything but the case. Different classes of people eat different foods. Poor of all races eat like shit. Because it's cheap and doesn't require much prep (lazy). Middle Class (me) I eat no different that any of you whites. Although I still have an affinity for soul food if I want to be a glutton ;D and rich Hebrews I'm sure eat much different than me. It's a class thing within America.
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Dude, world star hip hop Hebrews is not representative of all Hebrews. I dont remember if you're from here or not but that's like me using white trash and saying that's how all white people are and we know that's anything but the case. Different classes of people eat different foods. Poor of all races eat like shit. Because it's cheap and doesn't require much prep (lazy). Middle Class (me) I eat no different that any of you whites. Although I still have an affinity for soul food if I want to be a glutton ;D and rich Hebrews I'm sure eat much different than me. It's a class thing within America.
not to mention clearly Ronnie Coleman speaks for all black people ::)
yea budday yip yip
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not to mention clearly Ronnie Coleman speaks for all black people ::)
yea budday yip yip
He may speak for many of them, but not ALL of them (as in 100 % of USA and Africa)
Listen to Parker for example, not once have you heard a "yip yip" from him.
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I would honestly :rolleyes:, if asked, Phil said he was suffering through a meal like that. Even not dieting it looks good and appetizing.
Would be nicer and easier to eat with a nice pepper sauce.
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He may speak for many of them, but not ALL of them (as in 100 % of USA and Africa)
Listen to Parker for example, not once have you heard a "yip yip" from him.
i was being sarcastic
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Anything tastes so much better with a creamy kantarel-sauce
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Anything tastes so much better with a creamy kantarel-sauce
No clue what that is. Does it come straight from the tap?
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No clue what that is. Does it come straight from the tap?
Only found at the Mirage Hotel
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Dude, world star hip hop Hebrews is not representative of all Hebrews. I dont remember if you're from here or not but that's like me using white trash and saying that's how all white people are and we know that's anything but the case. Different classes of people eat different foods. Poor of all races eat like shit. Because it's cheap and doesn't require much prep (lazy). Middle Class (me) I eat no different that any of you whites. Although I still have an affinity for soul food if I want to be a glutton ;D and rich Hebrews I'm sure eat much different than me. It's a class thing within America.
My observations are based on real life. Over here -Europe-, it's also class related, which is prob the main reason.
BB-related: I remember a Phil Heath vid where I admitted that he rarely eats veggies. I assume you saw all Ronnie Coleman vids? Did you saw him eating veggies? I can't remember.
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i was being sarcastic
No, you spoke the truth
At least somewhat close to the truth
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no chili, no dressing, no salad... this is from Phil Heath's Facebook:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1175053_580881785309166_818793563_n.jpg)
taken in large quantities would suggest a desire to be constipated
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You'd feel like shit all day. I feel like absolute shit when I eat garbage more than 2 days in a row.
I get the occasional cravings for fast food, but like you, I also feel like shit if I eat it a lot. What I like to do is go to for example Burger King and just eat a couple of burgers with milk or water on the side. Nothing else. Then home and maybe a protein shake or some fruit later in the evening. The next day I will feel fine. :)
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I get the occasional cravings for fast food, but like you, I also feel like shit if I eat it a lot. What I like to do is go to for example Burger King and just eat a couple of burgers with milk or water on the side. Nothing else. Then home and maybe a protein shake or some fruit later in the evening. The next day I will feel fine. :)
Milk or water with a burger? Wtf?
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A bacon cheese double Whopper from Burger King I had recently. Food for kings:
(http://www.gratisimage.dk/image-A5C7_52113352.jpg)
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A bacon cheese double Whopper from Burger King I had recently. Food for kings:
(http://www.gratisimage.dk/image-A5C7_52113352.jpg)
If I ate that it wouldn't stay around too long and my stomach would hurt.
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Hahahaha this is why I don't take bodybuilding seriously anymore. Two things to point out. Number one, they only eat that way pre contest. Number two, they don't even have to eat that way pre contest. Maybe the last couple of weeks out, but there are so many low sodium, low calorie condiments, spices and sauces they could easily whip up to accompany that trash.
That's not food. That's insecurity and obsession. I still love bodybuilding but so much of it is a joke. I just laugh every time someone puts a picture of some boiled chicken and potatoes on Instagram and thinks they're hardcore. All right, tough guy. Hopefully it makes them feel hardcore.
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Is that Heme-Iron?
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You'd feel like shit all day. I feel like absolute shit when I eat garbage more than 2 days in a row.
Why are you fat then?
Thyroid? High estrogen?
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Imagine if you could build quality-muscle with just fat and sugar.
Then the meals would look different.
I'd be eating Pizza with extra cheese, Kebab, Kibbutz, Kolchos, Sovchos, Ahlgrens Bilar, Rock Candy, Chips and CHeese Doodles, Burger King and McDonalds, topping it off with Soft Drinks each and every day.
Black Bean Burritos
Kale Greens
Sea salt
cock with extra yogurt would be your main staple huh huggie bear?
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This looks fantastic
I'd be eating Pizza with extra cheese, Kebab, Kibbutz, Kolchos, Sovchos, Ahlgrens Bilar,
Rock Candy, Chips and CHeese Doodles, Burger King and McDonalds, topping it off with Soft Drinks each and every day.
Black Bean Burritos
Kale Greens
Sea salt
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I know how to cook.
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no chili, no dressing, no salad... this is from Phil Heath's Facebook:
I'm convinced it's just a show off thing. Surely bodybuilders don't eat like that?
Why should they? It makes no sense
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I'm convinced it's just a show off thing. Surely bodybuilders don't eat like that?
Why should they? It makes no sense
I think it's more of a show off thing. When you're competing and this close to the Mr. Olympia then okay, I'll give it a pass. But for damn near anyone else it's ludicrous. I can get shredded eating McDicks once a week and I take less than a gram with no thyroid meds of GH, just test prop and tren ace. Shit genetics and lazy in the gym too. No need to skip the condiments and go with bone dry, bland shit like that.
I slowly started eating "regularly" again over the last few years to the point where I don't count a single macro or anything. I used to at least calculate my protein and be conscious of my carbs, but if you eat relatively cleanly and have somewhat of a routine then it's basically all the same give or take. If you just think "okay, eat a bit more protein" or a bit less carbs and eat decent to begin with, that's all you need to do. No sense in micromanaging everything when a single meal could fuck up the entire effort. Just be in good enough shape so you don't have to obsess over it. I've fattened up a bit more and sit maybe closer to 8-9% but when I want to get leaner it just takes a few weeks, then I can be liberal with what I eat again. Just never get fat.
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Makes no difference what you eat.
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Makes no difference what you eat.
Yes it does.
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Doesn't have to be boring. It just sucks a couple of weeks or so prior to a show. It's not supposed to be fun or filling. It's a bitch. And if there are pro- bodybuilders on here reading laughing and saying "it's not that hard" you're full of shit because you carbs to stay alive because of your insulin use....there, I said it!
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I think it's more of a show off thing. When you're competing and this close to the Mr. Olympia then okay, I'll give it a pass. But for damn near anyone else it's ludicrous. I can get shredded eating McDicks once a week and I take less than a gram with no thyroid meds of GH, just test prop and tren ace. Shit genetics and lazy in the gym too. No need to skip the condiments and go with bone dry, bland shit like that.
I slowly started eating "regularly" again over the last few years to the point where I don't count a single macro or anything. I used to at least calculate my protein and be conscious of my carbs, but if you eat relatively cleanly and have somewhat of a routine then it's basically all the same give or take. If you just think "okay, eat a bit more protein" or a bit less carbs and eat decent to begin with, that's all you need to do. No sense in micromanaging everything when a single meal could fuck up the entire effort. Just be in good enough shape so you don't have to obsess over it. I've fattened up a bit more and sit maybe closer to 8-9% but when I want to get leaner it just takes a few weeks, then I can be liberal with what I eat again. Just never get fat.
Yes, very good post!!
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Doesn't have to be boring. It just sucks a couple of weeks or so prior to a show. It's not supposed to be fun or filling. It's a bitch. And if there are pro- bodybuilders on here reading laughing and saying "it's not that hard" you're full of shit because you carbs to stay alive because of your insulin use....there, I said it!
Pro bodybuilders never tell the truth. They upload very polar images online so it's difficult for people to know what to believe. On one end you'll see a guy with a tray of tilapia and an Instagram filter saying he spent his Friday night alone baking his meals for the week. Another one will be a half dozen pizzas and a tub of ice cream with the caption "CHEAT DAY". The truth usually lies somewhere in the middle.
People don't have common sense. If there's a tire around your stomach you'll probably want to lean closer to eating the tilapia. But it doesn't mean that bland food needs to rule your life. Cook it properly, throw some herbs on there and drizzle a bit of olive oil on there. Instead of shitty brown rice, jazz it up a little and look at one of the trillions of rice recipes on Google. There's a few billion people on this planet that eat rice more than once a day, man. Surely you can be more creative than fucking plain brown rice. That shit smells like a vegan's armpits.
At the end of the day, the biggest mitigating factor anyway will be drugs. Drugs, drugs, drugs. You can eat like shit and look good, or you can eat clean and look good. I prefer to use a little gear and stay relatively safe and simple, but I don't compromise with the food. There's simply no point. Even 100% clean I still eat very well and very happily. I do have to tighten the diet up a little more, but you won't ever find me eating a baked or boiled chicken breast again. They're a couple of the most versatile proteins in the world, so why the fuck are we turning it into cardboard when there's no point? Pisses me off.
All these kids are flooding the gym due to all the videos on Youtube and pictures on Instagram. I hear them talking about their macronutrient breakdowns and I just want to tell them to stop worrying about that shit. Lift hard, eat decent and then throw in a can of tuna or an extra chicken breast. Boom. Done.
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That's what I'm saying...
Get the Macros and Micros you need, the protein in Chicken is the same as the protein in McChicken.
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They dont have to be.
Oh but they do, they really do. Get to his level of conditioning then make your claim, until then your claim is BS. ;)
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Oh but they do, they really do. Get to his level of conditioning then make your claim, until then your claim is BS. ;)
But what we both know is that the battle to 10 percent body fat is not done through cardboard tilapia fillets and baked chicken breasts. You can diet down to that level eating McDicks 4-5 days of the week as long as you put in the work. As you get to the low digit body fat level that's when the rules change. Lay people aren't trying to get like 5% body fat like you are. They're not even trying to get to gal's level of body fat, or even my level of body fat which has gotten higher but is still impressive to 9/10 people on the street (and I feel fat and fucking ashamed lol).
This is like when classical mechanics gets into the realm of subatomics and a scale where everything changes. You have quantum physics and just mere theories. We can't even decide amongst ourselves which theory explains which phenomena without getting into a scuffle. This is like all of us guys when the circle jerk breaks and we start arguing over getting fucking peeeeeeeeeeeled and diced to the bone. Our audience is limited. You don't teach quantum physics and mechanics to grade school children that don't understand why a sphere will roll down a decline plane because of forces and physics, etc.
So when Mr. Olympia Phil Health posts pictures of what was once food but is now something he's converted into cardboard, I hope that the masses take away that only Mr. Olympia needs to do this. And he does this in tandem with a drug regimen that would kill a man off the streets.
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But what we both know is that the battle to 10 percent body fat is not done through cardboard tilapia fillets and baked chicken breasts. You can diet down to that level eating McDicks 4-5 days of the week as long as you put in the work. As you get to the low digit body fat level that's when the rules change. Lay people aren't trying to get like 5% body fat like you are. They're not even trying to get to gal's level of body fat, or even my level of body fat which has gotten higher but is still impressive to 9/10 people on the street (and I feel fat and fucking ashamed lol).
This is like when classical mechanics gets into the realm of subatomics and a scale where everything changes. You have quantum physics and just mere theories. We can't even decide amongst ourselves which theory explains which phenomena without getting into a scuffle. This is like all of us guys when the circle jerk breaks and we start arguing over getting fucking peeeeeeeeeeeled and diced to the bone. Our audience is limited. You don't teach quantum physics and mechanics to grade school children that don't understand why a sphere will roll down a decline plane because of forces and physics, etc.
So when Mr. Olympia Phil Health posts pictures of what was once food but is now something he's converted into cardboard, I hope that the masses take away that only Mr. Olympia needs to do this. And he does this in tandem with a drug regimen that would kill a man off the streets.
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But what we both know is that the battle to 10 percent body fat is not done through cardboard tilapia fillets and baked chicken breasts. You can diet down to that level eating McDicks 4-5 days of the week as long as you put in the work. As you get to the low digit body fat level that's when the rules change. Lay people aren't trying to get like 5% body fat like you are. They're not even trying to get to gal's level of body fat, or even my level of body fat which has gotten higher but is still impressive to 9/10 people on the street (and I feel fat and fucking ashamed lol).
This is like when classical mechanics gets into the realm of subatomics and a scale where everything changes. You have quantum physics and just mere theories. We can't even decide amongst ourselves which theory explains which phenomena without getting into a scuffle. This is like all of us guys when the circle jerk breaks and we start arguing over getting fucking peeeeeeeeeeeled and diced to the bone. Our audience is limited. You don't teach quantum physics and mechanics to grade school children that don't understand why a sphere will roll down a decline plane because of forces and physics, etc.
So when Mr. Olympia Phil Health posts pictures of what was once food but is now something he's converted into cardboard, I hope that the masses take away that only Mr. Olympia needs to do this. And he does this in tandem with a drug regimen that would kill a man off the streets.
You are missing the point, the point is that 4lb of chicken breast has the same amount of calories as one lb of french fries, so you can be one of those who say a calorie is a calorie, but I will stick to my 4 lb of chicken thank you very much.
or how about 6 cups of veggies versus one cup of rice.
I will stick to the veggies, 6 cups of veggies and 4lb of chicken breast = 2000 calories or one super size double big mac meal with a chocolet sundae that also has 2000 calories.
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You are missing the point, the point is that 4lb of chicken breast has the same amount of calories as one lb of french fries, so you can be one of those who say a calorie is a calorie, but I will stick to my 4 lb of chicken thank you very much.
or how about 6 cups of veggies versus one cup of rice.
I will stick to the veggies, 6 cups of veggies and 4lb of chicken breast = 2000 calories or one super size double big mac meal with a chocolet sundae that also has 2000 calories.
We're both sort of right if you think about it. You're right, a calorie is not just a calorie. However, the importance that people place on this is incredibly out of alignment and is very subjective as well. For a fat ass who's 20% body fat, those calories don't really matter all too much as long as they've brought down in a large abundance. They could probably eat a diet loaded with fries but as long as the total calories are low their composition will probably change tremendously. If they're fat, everything's just going to blend in and you can't tell what they've eaten because they're just a huge mess.
For guys like us, sometimes at a super low body fat when the fat cells are small and rigid you can eat a cheat meal, balloon up for the evening and wake up peeled and the next morning. Our bodies are more resilient because of our hormones, our genetics, the way everything is tuned so finely, our bodies are better with glucose management and the fat cells are retarded and don't store free fatty acids in them and puff up like they used to. So while we have this luxury on one hand, if we want to take it to the next level and get more conditioned it unfortunately becomes exponentially more difficult. And that's when you DO ironically have to watch what you eat if you want some striated butt cheeks and feathered muscles that have striations flaring down them.
When I see a fatty confused about putting salad dressing on their shit, I just tell them to look at the dressing. If it's full of sugar, they probably should go with something like a vinaigrette. But if they're going to get fries instead of that salad, then I'd say "no man, have all the dressing you want". It's all subjective and you need to look at the context. That's why I don't like giving people too rigid of a set of rules. I like to mentor them instead to get them more into the mindset, not just reading a check list. They have to live it and adapt it to their life style. And worrying about calories is not a good way to do this. Instead, load them with an armload of good recipes and ideas for how to eat good but also get to their goals. Unless you want your ass cheeks to be feathered and ripple in the mirror, you don't need to be eating cardboard tilapia fillets or dried out steaks.
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Dustin schooling the forum, listen up guys this is the most sense anyone has spoken on here about diet in a long time.
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That's why I don't like giving people too rigid of a set of rules.
If some overweight person asks me for advice about losing weight I just tell them to carry on eating what they are eating but just cut their portions by a 1/4 or maybe a third.
If I told them to start eating chicken and veg/rice its never going to happen.
Its easier to just restrict their normal food intake , if they do, they will lose weight, if they dont they didnt do what they were told, if thats the case then fuck em.
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You are missing the point, the point is that 4lb of chicken breast has the same amount of calories as one lb of french fries, so you can be one of those who say a calorie is a calorie, but I will stick to my 4 lb of chicken thank you very much. or how about 6 cups of veggies versus one cup of rice.
I will stick to the veggies, 6 cups of veggies and 4lb of chicken breast = 2000 calories or one super size double big mac meal with a chocolet sundae that also has 2000 calories.
So are you saying that if you reduce your fat levels you can actually eat more food?
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this looks fantastic.
no reason why you cant put some chili and dressing on that.
this, for me, when im strict,is already a cheat meal.
sounds pretty rad.. so what do you eat when you eat strict? I mean I can't see why lean meat and rice would be considered a cheat meal.
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You guys are forgetting a few things. For example, when you wanna go zero carbs you cannot add "anything". It has to be zero carbs. If you grill meat in a "little" olive oil, sure it tastes better. But it also adds unanted grams of fat. Dressing? more carbs etc
The problem is that most people will chase the taste. When you drop the calories and the carbs they will do anything to get calories. You tell them a teaspoon of organic peanut butter and they will load that spoon with 30g of pb and 300 calories. Then ANOTHER teaspoon for an extra 300. The little omega 3 fats snack becomes a 600 calorie messing up of a diet. I have done it and many people I help do it too. So it becomes a nightmare. To make sure they don't go overboard, it becomes a necessity to give them bland food. No peanut butter, no worries haha.
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You guys are forgetting a few things. For example, when you wanna go zero carbs you cannot add "anything". It has to be zero carbs. If you grill meat in a "little" olive oil, sure it tastes better. But it also adds unanted grams of fat. Dressing? more carbs etc
The problem is that most people will chase the taste. When you drop the calories and the carbs they will do anything to get calories. You tell them a teaspoon of organic peanut butter and they will load that spoon with 30g of pb and 300 calories. Then ANOTHER teaspoon for an extra 300. The little omega 3 fats snack becomes a 600 calorie messing up of a diet. I have done it and many people I help do it too. So it becomes a nightmare. To make sure they don't go overboard, it becomes a necessity to give them bland food. No peanut butter, no worries haha.
Good post, so what you are saying is that if you reduce fats in the diet it allows you to eat additional food in the form of protien and carbs because gram for gram fat is more than double the calories per gram that protien or carbs?
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Good post, so what you are saying is that if you reduce fats in the diet it allows you to eat additional food in the form of protien and carbs because gram for gram fat is more than double the calories per gram that protien or carbs?
I never reduce fats. My point was that people always eat more than they should. They are like little kids who cannot control themselves.
Reducing and manipulating carbs is the key. Fats are necessary. When animal fats are reduced, I up the omega 3 ones and viceversa. Overall calories still count. If you wanna go under 7%, then you really have to be strict.
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I never reduce fats. My point was that people always eat more than they should. They are like little kids who cannot control themselves.
Reducing and manipulating carbs is the key. Fats are necessary. When animal fats are reduced, I up the omega 3 ones and viceversa. Overall calories still count. If you wanna go under 7%, then you really have to be strict.
Ha..I see so its just a carb reduction for you, no worries.
However the question still remains, if fats are high in the diet then if you halved the fat then you could still add in foods from protein and carb sources which would enable the individual to eat more food than they were when they had all the fats in there due to the high calorific value of the fat gram wise.
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Ha..I see so its just a carb reduction for you, no worries.
However the question still remains, if fats are high in the diet then if you halved the fat then you could still add in foods from protein and carb sources which would enable the individual to eat more food than they were when they had all the fats in there due to the high calorific value of the fat gram wise.
fat is not high. But it's there. Lean meats and bitter green leafy veggies. Plus a little organic omega 3 fats. That's the diet.
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fat is not high. But it's there. Lean meats and bitter green leafy veggies. Plus a little organic omega 3 fats. That's the diet.
Let me ask it another way, we seem to be at cross purposes.
If someone came to you with a diet that contained 70% fat could you work him out a diet that would allow him to eat more food than he was currently by reducing the amount of fat he was eating?
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Let me ask it another way, we seem to be at cross purposes.
If someone came to you with a diet that contained 70% fat could you work him out a diet that would allow him to eat more food than he was currently by reducing the amount of fat he was eating?
Dieting is losing fat and calorie reduction .. eat what is necessary and thats it. People who "wanna eat more" will never succeed at this task.
I would consider fat to be what is naturally in the lean meats and a little extra almonds, avocado and organic peanut butter. This is how I do it. I never care for what they did before .. I just put them on my plan and work from there.
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no chili, no dressing, no salad... this is from Phil Heath's Facebook:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1175053_580881785309166_818793563_n.jpg)
I'm more interested in your profile pic. Vince is so ugly and delusional he should be put down. It's not like anybody will miss that POS
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Dieting is losing fat and calorie reduction .. eat what is necessary and thats it. People who "wanna eat more" will never succeed at this task.
I would consider fat to be what is naturally in the lean meats and a little extra almonds, avocado and organic peanut butter. This is how I do it. I never care for what they did before .. I just put them on my plan and work from there.
Why do you keep dodging the question?
If someone came to you with 75% of their calories in the form of fats, could you work out a diet plan which would allow them to eat more food overall and still stay in a calorific deficit?
It's not a hard question to answer is it?
If it is then you really shouldnt be dispensing advice.
PS heres a clue from earlier in the thread
OTH wrote
You are missing the point, the point is that 4lb of chicken breast has the same amount of calories as one lb of french fries, so you can be one of those who say a calorie is a calorie, but I will stick to my 4 lb of chicken thank you very much
PPS, I do know the real reason you wont answer it. ;D
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Dieting is losing fat and calorie reduction .. eat what is necessary and thats it. People who "wanna eat more" will never succeed at this task.
I would consider fat to be what is naturally in the lean meats and a little extra almonds, avocado and organic peanut butter. This is how I do it. I never care for what they did before .. I just put them on my plan and work from there.
booooooooooooooooooooooooooom
END OF THREAD,
STOP BEING A BUNCH OF FUCKEN PUSSIES AROUND HERE, FUCK, YOU NEED YOUR CONDIMENTS, OH BOO FUCKEN HOO, YOU GUYS NEED TO HAVE SOME TASTE.
GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE. :'( :'( :'( :'(
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Imagine if you could build quality-muscle with just fat and sugar.
Then the meals would look different.
I'd be eating Pizza with extra cheese, Kebab, Kibbutz, Kolchos, Sovchos, Ahlgrens Bilar, Rock Candy, Chips and CHeese Doodles, Burger King and McDonalds, topping it off with Soft Drinks each and every day.
Black Bean Burritos
Kale Greens
Sea salt
Never mind that you are getting a bunch of protein in there.
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booooooooooooooooooooooooooom
END OF THREAD,
STOP BEING A BUNCH OF FUCKEN PUSSIES AROUND HERE, FUCK, YOU NEED YOUR CONDIMENTS, OH BOO FUCKEN HOO, YOU GUYS NEED TO HAVE SOME TASTE.
GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE. :'( :'( :'( :'(
thats all well and good for competitive bodybuilders, but what about your average housewife who just wants to shed a few pounds?
Jeez she would run a mile if she experienced that response of yours ;D
Also in response to your comment here
You are missing the point, the point is that 4lb of chicken breast has the same amount of calories as one lb of french fries, so you can be one of those who say a calorie is a calorie, but I will stick to my 4 lb of chicken thank you very much
Are you saying that by dropping the fat in the pound of fries it allows you to eat extra food in the form of additional protein and still lose the weight?
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thats all well and good for competitive bodybuilders, but what about your average housewife who just wants to shed a few pounds?
Jeez she would run a mile if she experienced that response of yours ;D
HMMMMM
Correct me if I am wrong but was the title of the thread about bodybuilders or was it about your average house wife, ???
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HMMMMM
Correct me if I am wrong but was the title of the thread about bodybuilders or was it about your average house wife, ???
Yes it was I will give you that but it has drifted a touch from the original topic.
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Yes it was I will give you that but it has drifted a touch from the original topic.
:D 8)
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Also in response to your comment here
You are missing the point, the point is that 4lb of chicken breast has the same amount of calories as one lb of french fries, so you can be one of those who say a calorie is a calorie, but I will stick to my 4 lb of chicken thank you very much
Are you saying that by dropping the fat in the pound of fries it allows you to eat extra food in the form of additional protein and still lose the weight?
Dont forget that bit OTH, its important.
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Why do you keep dodging the question?
If someone came to you with 75% of their calories in the form of fats, could you work out a diet plan which would allow them to eat more food overall and still stay in a calorific deficit?
It's not a hard question to answer is it?
If it is then you really shouldnt be dispensing advice.
PS heres a clue from earlier in the thread
OTH wrote
PPS, I do know the real reason you wont answer it. ;D
you are either dumb or play stupid... read what I wrote and use it if you find it usefull .. if not, fuck off
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you are either dumb or play stupid... read what I wrote and use it if you find it usefull .. if not, fuck off
Look, I know why you don't want to answer the question, it was a clear enough one, even someone as dumb as you could work it out, I know you don't want to upset your new best buddy.
Shame on you really, its embarrassing that you have so little self-esteem.
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Also in response to your comment hereAre you saying that by dropping the fat in the pound of fries it allows you to eat extra food in the form of additional protein and still lose the weight?
Dont forget that bit OTH, its important.
It would seem OTH is avoiding it as well.
I would have thought he was more than man enough to stand his ground.
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see, people are trying to be nice with you
..but you keep coming home drunk, shitting in the middle of the living room, planting matches in the fresh turd and insist that "tonight we'll sleep with the hedgehog!"
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More interesting bodybuilding food:
(http://www.gratisimage.dk/image-1DA4_52121F8B.jpg)
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see, people are trying to be nice with you
..but you keep coming home drunk, shitting in the middle of the living room, planting matches in the fresh turd and insist that "tonight we'll sleep with the hedgehog!"
You have avoided a simple question either because you don't know the answer or you don't want to go against your new bum chum, which is it?
Here it is again.
If someone came to you with 75% of their calories in the form of fats, could you work out a diet plan which would allow them to eat more food overall and still stay in a calorific deficit?
you really need to answer the question because if you cant then as I have said, you really shouldn't be advising anyone on diet.
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You have avoided a simple question either because you don't know the answer or you don't want to go against your new bum chum, which is it?
Here it is again.
you really need to answer the question because if you cant then as I have said, you really shouldn't be advising anyone on diet.
I think the way you repeatedly demand answers annoys people to the point they just ignore you
try being polite
the other problem is it looks like trolling repeating the same question over and over
this info is genuinely meant to help
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I think the way you repeatedly demand answers annoys people to the point they just ignore you
try being polite
the other problem is it looks like trolling repeating the same question over and over
this info is genuinely meant to help
Would you like to take a stab at the answer or are your feet firmly in the big mans camp as well?
If someone came to you with 75% of their calories in the form of fats, could you work out a diet plan which would allow them to eat more food overall and still stay in a calorific deficit?
The question remains unanswered, thats why its being repeated.
All Im asking for is a yes or no, how hard can it be?
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I think you could swap the fat calories with more protein and maintain the same deficit if not increase the deficit.
1800 cals total
450cals protein = 113g
1650cals fats = 183g
swap those numbers
1650cals protein = 413g
450cals fats = 50g
You could even lower your protein intake and cut those cals in almost half. No? Ideally for myself
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1 gram of fat =9 cals
1 gram of protein =4 cals
1 gram of carb = 4 cals
So for every gram of fat you cut you could eat an extra gram of protein and an extra gram of carbohydrate and still be in a calorific deficit albeit a small one.
Its as simple as that.
Thats why I couldn't understand this reaction to this post
I avoid high fats and as such that allows you to eat more food.
Its simple really.
The response
like groink was saying, this is a collection of GB's best physiques in here (for the most part, one of us dosent belong, i'll let you figure out who) talking about dieting and giving advise.
heres a great example we can all learn from. sometimes its not the 'best' you learn from. the poor often are good teaching tools as well, giving us examples of what not to do.
like below:
hahahahahhooooleee fuck. eatmore giving out so reallllly solid advise here. dont eat fat so you can eat more hahahahaha what a tool.
:D
And yet not one person picked him up on it?
Even now, cleanest natural, bigmc and OTH all avoid stepping on his toes.
Shame really.
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Because male bodybuilders are notoriously lazy, bad cooks. Watch Antoine Vaillant's kitchen videos for examples of this. Toney Freeman is the only dude I've ever heard of who takes joy in preparing his meals (and he looks fucking excellent, so flavor is clearly not a physique destroyer).
Notice to lazy bodybuilders: I'll do your grocery shopping and prepare your meals to your macro specifications, and it'll all taste awesome. In exchange, you pay my rent (if you can pay your own, which may or may not be the case depending on how truly lazy you are.) Offer's on the table haha. Never eat wack shit again!
Are you trying to say Kevin Levrone didn't prepare his own meals? ::)
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Low carb burger:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/602752_10151645289938429_1969651427_n.jpg)
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Pro bodybuilders never tell the truth. They upload very polar images online so it's difficult for people to know what to believe. On one end you'll see a guy with a tray of tilapia and an Instagram filter saying he spent his Friday night alone baking his meals for the week. Another one will be a half dozen pizzas and a tub of ice cream with the caption "CHEAT DAY". The truth usually lies somewhere in the middle.
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Cutler didn't lie, posted the In n Out footage and it showed on contest day. :-X
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Low carb burger:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/602752_10151645289938429_1969651427_n.jpg)
Lol Epic
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1 gram of fat =9 cals
1 gram of protein =4 cals
1 gram of carb = 4 cals
So for every gram of fat you cut you could eat an extra gram of protein and an extra gram of carbohydrate and still be in a calorific deficit albeit a small one.
Its as simple as that.
Thats why I couldn't understand this reaction to this postThe response
And yet not one person picked him up on it?
Even now, cleanest natural, bigmc and OTH all avoid stepping on his toes.
Shame really.
im not an expert on diet so leave that to the guys on here who are
my take is high protein moderate carbs and fats and cheat at the weekends
very similar to you ironically
oth can peel fat like others peel an orange diferent level
so in terms of diet I take most of what he says as golden
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Being shredded takes suffering. I should know.
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Being shredded takes suffering. I should know.
best post in the thread. ;D
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im not an expert on diet so leave that to the guys on here who are
my take is high protein moderate carbs and fats and cheat at the weekends
very similar to you ironically
oth can peel fat like others peel an orange diferent level
so in terms of diet I take most of what he says as golden
Agreed OTH seems to be the man.
"No one" on the other hand clearly doesn't have a fucking clue, he even started making photoshops mocking my comment??
Its a good job he only added 5% of Gals book, I bet they were just his photos as well.
Shame people cant be themselves and speak their minds on here for fear of being ridiculed by a failed bodybuilder.
Cleanest natural I await your comments. ;)
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why eat bbing meals when you can eat like a normal person too, high protein is overrated anyway.
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Looks good enough for 2nd place.
;D....no details, width or separation
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why eat bbing meals when you can eat like a normal person too, high protein is overrated anyway.
Thats true mars other than the last few weeks before a contest eat normal, take in too much protein you just piss it out = expensive piss.
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here's the "expert" :D
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For dieting, I'd say that is far from bland though.
I agree!
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here's the "expert" :D
Its the expert who knows that a gram of fat is double that of a gram of carb or protein.
But you knew that to and were too scared to say weren't you?
I dont know why you stick by the fuckwit.
Have you forgot what he wrote about you.
LOL! hold on, hold on, hold on.
you mean we've been listening to this 3rd world dweller talk shit about groink for the past 3 months, and how hes going to 'own him into oblivion' with this physique of his, and this is what he brings to the table? ahahahahahahahaha oh brother.
i knew he was delusional when he started with his 'we're a worker race bred by lizards who live among us' schtick, but i actually gave him some credit for maybe, possibly unveiling some kind of shockingly awesome physique for all the shit he was talking.
not even close. its embarrassing for groink to even be compared to this stooge.
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You got two ways, low carb high fat which will give you long term energy daily from long chained fats but as UKJ says fats 9 carbs and protein 4, carbs 4 so you got to watch cals. The other one carbs, protein moderate low fat then you have to eat more often. Example in speaking with Falcon he has been eating more peanut butter cutting on carbs so he doesnt have to eat around the clock but is losing weight due to calorie reduction overall.
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I have noticed "no one" is avoiding this thread like the plague.
(http://gifs.gifbin.com/032010/1267527853_old_guy_going_crazy.gif)
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Still no comment from "no one"?
Surely hes not hiding away with embarrassment?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=485328.0;attach=528629;image)
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I do believe that him, like myself, feels that is embarassing to be compared to an old turd such as yourself.
You should stick to comparing yourself with guys your level: dj181, etc
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1 gram of fat =9 cals
1 gram of protein =4 cals
1 gram of carb = 4 cals
So for every gram of fat you cut you could eat an extra gram of protein and an extra gram of carbohydrate and still be in a calorific deficit albeit a small one.
Its as simple as that.
Thats why I couldn't understand this reaction to this postThe response
And yet not one person picked him up on it?
Even now, cleanest natural, bigmc and OTH all avoid stepping on his toes.
Shame really.
That post is from almost three weeks ago. THREE WEEKS! And you're still trying to get someone to agree w you.
What you say is obviously correct, but why do you care so much about being right?
Of course I imagine you'll reply that you were simply "trolling", followed up w a winky face......
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That post is from almost three weeks ago. THREE WEEKS! And you're still trying to get someone to agree w you.
What you say is obviously correct, but why do you care so much about being right?
Of course I imagine you'll reply that you were simply "trolling", followed up w a winky face......
I know its so obviously correct, I know everyone else knows its so obviously correct, the only person who thinks its wrong is "no one" who took great pleasure in laughing and photoshopping pictures about the statement.
The fact remains not one person wants to comment for fear of getting on the wrong side of "no one" is so fucking laughable its pathetic.
Getbig
What a bunch of pussies.
PS, thanks for you comment. ;)
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I know its so obviously correct, I know everyone else knows its so obviously correct, the only person who thinks its wrong is "no one" who took great pleasure in laughing and photoshopping pictures about the statement.
The fact remains not one person wants to comment for fear of getting on the wrong side of "no one" is so fucking laughable its pathetic.
Getbig
What a bunch of pussies.
PS, thanks for you comment. ;)
nice tactic
call get biggers pussies to provoke them into attacking no one
to prove they arent cowards
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Are you trying to say Kevin Levrone didn't prepare his own meals? ::)
I am saying I would've prepared them FOR HIM. But to be fair, I'm not into suffering. I'm shredded on stage, and regular, womanly lean in my regular life. So I guess it's whatever.
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I know its so obviously correct, I know everyone else knows its so obviously correct, the only person who thinks its wrong is "no one" who took great pleasure in laughing and photoshopping pictures about the statement.
The fact remains not one person wants to comment for fear of getting on the wrong side of "no one" is so fucking laughable its pathetic.
Getbig
What a bunch of pussies.
PS, thanks for you comment. ;)
Honestly I just think most people don't care. If I said 1 + 1 = 2 and you made a big deal out of it, "oh check out this moron saying 1+ 1 = 2...... everybody KNOWS it's 3!!!", I would furrow my brow in confusion for a moment, shrug, and then ignore it.
If you absolutely know what you're saying is a fact (and in this case it is), why is it so important that other people agree w you? Yeah getbig is clique-y, but that's how it is.... if that really bothers you, it would be easier to leave rather than try and change this site.
I think you're a decent "bloke" with a good sense of wit, but I just wish you would lighten up and let things go
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ukjeff always seems to have a huge stick up his ass ..
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ukjeff always seems to have a huge Ugandan cock up his ass ..
fixed
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fixed
The ugandan tabloids would have a pic day with his avatar pic ;D
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The ugandan tabloids would have a pic day with his avatar pic ;D
yes that pic and uk bum driller would defo make the front page