Why must bodybuilding meals be so plain and boring?

[OTHstrong]

Yes it was I will give you that but it has drifted a touch from the original topic.

   

[ukjeff]

Also in response to your comment here

You are missing the point, the point is that 4lb of chicken breast has the same amount of calories as one lb of french fries, so you can be one of those who say a calorie is a calorie, but I will stick to my 4 lb of chicken thank you very much

Are you saying that by dropping the fat in the pound of fries it allows you to eat extra food in the form of additional protein and still lose the weight?

Dont forget that bit OTH, its important.

[Cleanest Natural]

Why do you keep dodging the question?
If someone came to you with 75% of their calories in the form of fats, could you work out a diet plan which would allow them to eat more food overall and still stay in a calorific deficit?

It's not a hard question to answer is it?
If it is then you really shouldnt be dispensing advice.

PS heres a clue from earlier in the thread
OTH wrote
PPS, I do know the real reason you wont answer it.    

you are either dumb or play stupid... read what I wrote and use it if you find it usefull .. if not, fuck off

[ukjeff]

you are either dumb or play stupid... read what I wrote and use it if you find it usefull .. if not, fuck off

Look, I know why you don't want to answer the question, it was a clear enough one, even someone as dumb as you could work it out, I know you don't want to upset your new best buddy.

Shame on you really, its embarrassing that you have so little self-esteem.

[ukjeff]

Also in response to your comment hereAre you saying that by dropping the fat in the pound of fries it allows you to eat extra food in the form of additional protein and still lose the weight?

Dont forget that bit OTH, its important.

It would seem OTH is avoiding it as well.
I would have thought he was more than man enough to stand his ground.

[Cleanest Natural]

see, people are trying to be nice with you

..but you keep coming home drunk, shitting in the middle of the living room, planting matches in the fresh turd and insist that "tonight we'll sleep with the hedgehog!"

[FitnessFrenzy]

More interesting bodybuilding food:

[ukjeff]

see, people are trying to be nice with you

..but you keep coming home drunk, shitting in the middle of the living room, planting matches in the fresh turd and insist that "tonight we'll sleep with the hedgehog!"

You have avoided a simple question either because you don't know the answer or you don't want to go against your new bum chum, which is it?

Here it is again.

If someone came to you with 75% of their calories in the form of fats, could you work out a diet plan which would allow them to eat more food overall and still stay in a calorific deficit?

you really need to answer the question because if you cant then as I have said, you really shouldn't be advising anyone on diet.

[bigmc]

You have avoided a simple question either because you don't know the answer or you don't want to go against your new bum chum, which is it?

Here it is again.
you really need to answer the question because if you cant then as I have said, you really shouldn't be advising anyone on diet.

I think the way you repeatedly demand answers annoys people to the point they just ignore you

try being polite

the other problem is it looks like trolling repeating the same question over and over

this info is genuinely meant to help

[ukjeff]

I think the way you repeatedly demand answers annoys people to the point they just ignore you

try being polite

the other problem is it looks like trolling repeating the same question over and over

this info is genuinely meant to help

Would you like to take a stab at the answer or are your feet firmly in the big mans camp as well?

If someone came to you with 75% of their calories in the form of fats, could you work out a diet plan which would allow them to eat more food overall and still stay in a calorific deficit?

The question remains unanswered, thats why its being repeated.
All Im asking for is a yes or no, how hard can it be?

[Deutsch]

I think you could swap the fat calories with more protein and maintain the same deficit if not increase the deficit.

1800 cals total

450cals protein = 113g
1650cals fats = 183g

swap those numbers

1650cals protein = 413g
450cals fats = 50g

You could even lower your protein intake and cut those cals in almost half.  No?  Ideally for myself

[ukjeff]

1 gram of fat =9 cals
1 gram of protein =4 cals
1 gram of carb = 4 cals

So for every gram of fat you cut you could eat an extra gram of protein and an extra gram of carbohydrate and still be in a calorific deficit albeit a small one.

Its as simple as that.

Thats why I couldn't understand this reaction to this post

I avoid high fats and as such that allows you to eat more food.
Its simple really.

The response

like groink was saying, this is a collection of GB's best physiques in here (for the most part, one of us dosent belong, i'll let you figure out who) talking about dieting and giving advise.

heres a great example we can all learn from. sometimes its not the 'best' you learn from. the poor often are good teaching tools as well, giving us examples of what not to do.

like below:
hahahahahhooooleee fuck. eatmore giving out so reallllly solid advise here. dont eat fat so you can eat more hahahahaha what a tool.

And yet not one person picked him up on it?
Even now, cleanest natural, bigmc and OTH all avoid stepping on his toes.

Shame really.

[G_Thang]

Because male bodybuilders are notoriously lazy, bad cooks. Watch Antoine Vaillant's kitchen videos for examples of this. Toney Freeman is the only dude I've ever heard of who takes joy in preparing his meals (and he looks fucking excellent, so flavor is clearly not a physique destroyer).

Notice to lazy bodybuilders: I'll do your grocery shopping and prepare your meals to your macro specifications, and it'll all taste awesome. In exchange, you pay my rent (if you can pay your own, which may or may not be the case depending on how truly lazy you are.) Offer's on the table haha. Never eat wack shit again!

Are you trying to say Kevin Levrone didn't prepare his own meals? 

[FitnessFrenzy]

Low carb burger:

[G_Thang]

Pro bodybuilders never tell the truth. They upload very polar images online so it's difficult for people to know what to believe. On one end you'll see a guy with a tray of tilapia and an Instagram filter saying he spent his Friday night alone baking his meals for the week. Another one will be a half dozen pizzas and a tub of ice cream with the caption "CHEAT DAY". The truth usually lies somewhere in the middle. 
 

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Cutler didn't lie, posted the In n Out footage and it showed on contest day. 

[Kwon_2]

Low carb burger:

Lol Epic

[bigmc]

1 gram of fat =9 cals
1 gram of protein =4 cals
1 gram of carb = 4 cals

So for every gram of fat you cut you could eat an extra gram of protein and an extra gram of carbohydrate and still be in a calorific deficit albeit a small one.

Its as simple as that.

Thats why I couldn't understand this reaction to this postThe response
And yet not one person picked him up on it?
Even now, cleanest natural, bigmc and OTH all avoid stepping on his toes.

Shame really.

im not an expert on diet so leave that to the guys on here who are

my take is high protein moderate carbs and fats and cheat at the weekends

very similar to you ironically

oth can peel fat like others peel an orange diferent level

so in terms of diet I take most of what he says as golden

[King Shizzo]

Being shredded takes suffering. I should know.

[ukjeff]

Being shredded takes suffering. I should know.

best post in the thread.

[ukjeff]

im not an expert on diet so leave that to the guys on here who are

my take is high protein moderate carbs and fats and cheat at the weekends

very similar to you ironically

oth can peel fat like others peel an orange diferent level

so in terms of diet I take most of what he says as golden

Agreed OTH seems to be the man.
"No one" on the other hand clearly doesn't have a fucking clue, he even started making photoshops mocking my comment??
Its a good job he only added 5% of Gals book, I bet they were just his photos as well.

Shame people cant be themselves and speak their minds on here for fear of being ridiculed by a failed bodybuilder.

Cleanest natural I await your comments.   

[Tito24]

why eat bbing meals when you can eat like a normal person too, high protein is overrated anyway.

[The_Punisher]

Looks good enough for 2nd place.

 ....no details, width or separation

[Mr Nobody]

why eat bbing meals when you can eat like a normal person too, high protein is overrated anyway.

Thats true mars other than the last few weeks before a contest eat normal, take in too much protein you just piss it out = expensive piss.

[Cleanest Natural]

here's the "expert" 

[Ronnie Rep]

For dieting, I'd say that is far from bland though.

I agree!