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Title: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not? Repercussions?
Post by: arce1988 on August 27, 2013, 02:30:34 PM
 This week?
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Kwon_2 on August 27, 2013, 02:54:22 PM
This week?

Ye
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on August 27, 2013, 03:00:04 PM
When Israel wants them to.  Good old USA. You kill your own people and we'll come in and kill your own people as well.
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Voice of Doom on August 27, 2013, 03:02:43 PM
War is the health of the state - Randolph Bourne
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: arce1988 on August 27, 2013, 03:06:33 PM
  Another war
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Trapper_Slapper on August 27, 2013, 03:07:27 PM
Fuck this shit.
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: liberty on August 27, 2013, 03:10:31 PM
I think a few cruise missiles at selected targets and thats it.The message will be "Use chemical weapons again and it will be this x1000 "
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Kwon_2 on August 27, 2013, 03:17:52 PM
Interesting to see the warfare technology of 2013.

What new tech will be used?
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Dokey111 on August 27, 2013, 03:18:23 PM
you can always tell when we're gearing up for war.  the news talks about these atrocities that are taking place to get our sympathy and outrage, then in we go as the heroes.  same old story.
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Kwon_2 on August 27, 2013, 03:19:58 PM
you can always tell when we're gearing up for war.  the news talks about these atrocities that are taking place to get our sympathy and outrage, then in we go as the heroes.  same old story.

Always works.. :D
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: B_B_C on August 27, 2013, 03:20:40 PM
killing to stop killing
fighting for peace
fucking for virginity
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Chacka on August 27, 2013, 03:21:06 PM
Always works.. :D


this this this
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: _bruce_ on August 27, 2013, 03:34:48 PM
It's a setup - someone's keen on fulfilling prophecy.
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Parker on August 27, 2013, 03:51:43 PM
Labor Day weekend
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Shockwave on August 27, 2013, 03:53:51 PM
Wonder who these politicians think theyre fooling?

Oh, yeah, I forgot,  the average american is a fucking idiot and believes everything the idiot box feeds them.
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Irongrip400 on August 27, 2013, 03:54:31 PM
Russia seems to be giving a strong warning. I think we will see a war not seen since World War One. Two was just Hitler rolling over Europe, One was a total all out war between countries. But, like someone said, we are dealing with 2013 technology. Shit could go bad real quick.
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: 240 is Back on August 27, 2013, 04:03:16 PM
Labor Day weekend

yep.  everybody at picnics talking about miley cyrus.

LOL maybe miley does a tearful press conference to seal the #1 CNN headline haha
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Voice of Doom on August 27, 2013, 04:08:02 PM
Conflict is the creator of all things - Heraclitus
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Shockwave on August 27, 2013, 04:09:41 PM
john kerry is a despicable mouthpiece liar
Agreed... wathing the news this morning, you could literally see the bullshit rolling out of his mouth
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Chacka on August 27, 2013, 04:10:05 PM
yep.  everybody at picnics talking about miley cyrus.

LOL maybe miley does a tearful press conference to seal the #1 CNN headline haha



haha she'll be twerking to the sound of Armagedon
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: liberty on August 27, 2013, 04:12:53 PM
FVCK YEAH !
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Heywood on August 27, 2013, 04:16:53 PM
Someone (Iran, Russia or both) wants us to go to war.  Syria's gassing hundreds of Syrians occurred on the first anniversary of Obama's "Red Line" warning.

That tells you that they WANT to fuck with Obama.
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Princess L on August 27, 2013, 04:25:38 PM
Please keep this thread with the same tone it has thus far and make it get moved or nuked.

Thanks
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Voice of Doom on August 27, 2013, 04:27:30 PM
“When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain.”
― Napoleon Bonaparte
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on August 27, 2013, 04:27:41 PM
the media hit and run reporting makes me vomit.

they think the people are stupid, when the whole comment sections of all newspapers , 99% ppl disagree and laugh about the lies of keerry obama and co.

kerry ssaid he dont care who used the weapons, they already "know", so the un inspectors are just there to find out if its been used or not, but on by whom, theyre not allowed to speak.

nice ::)

kerry also said syria is a govt which has stuff to hide, this is particularly hillarious in regards to the recent nsa fiasco ::)
listen, no way assad is so dumb to use that gas, he could just bomb the enemies away and therefor not breach nasty weapons bs rule.

when obama said red line is this and that, the rebels knew exactly what they had to do to get us intervention.

please take off the mudshark sunglasses,man.



Israel Mossad probably using gas to provoke the US of an A to attack
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Shockwave on August 27, 2013, 04:35:31 PM
Israel Mossad probably using gas to provoke the US of an A to attack
Ive noticed that you think Israel is behind every negativr thing that happens in the middle east.
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Chacka on August 27, 2013, 04:36:45 PM
  :(
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Irongrip400 on August 27, 2013, 04:41:03 PM
Please keep this thread with the same tone it has thus far and make it get moved or nuked.

Thanks

What's this supposed to mean? Like its different from any other off topic subject.
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: markofan on August 27, 2013, 04:49:42 PM
Listen to this discussion with a guy by the name of Bob Moriarty about Syria.  He knows what he is talking about.

http://www.kereport.com/2013/08/24/syria-truth-truth-truth/
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 27, 2013, 04:50:22 PM
America will only start a war in case there is an economic benefit.
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: markofan on August 27, 2013, 05:08:02 PM
http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-08-27/rambozo-blowback
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Mr.1derful on August 27, 2013, 05:21:47 PM
Wonder who these politicians think theyre fooling?

Oh, yeah, I forgot,  the average american is a fucking idiot and believes everything the idiot box feeds them.

This!
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: thebrink on August 27, 2013, 05:29:11 PM
you can always tell when we're gearing up for war.  the news talks about these atrocities that are taking place to get our sympathy and outrage, then in we go as the heroes.  same old story.

hahaha yep they beating the war drum and folks follow along with it like hypnotism.
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: thebrink on August 27, 2013, 05:31:03 PM
Russia seems to be giving a strong warning. I think we will see a war not seen since World War One. Two was just Hitler rolling over Europe, One was a total all out war between countries. But, like someone said, we are dealing with 2013 technology. Shit could go bad real quick.

experts tout 10 to 15 years. russians arent building those nukes just to look at
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on August 27, 2013, 05:32:18 PM
I think they will attack right after the night show of the Mr. Olympia...
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: tommywishbone on August 27, 2013, 05:40:11 PM
Syria is very important to me.
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: jude2 on August 27, 2013, 05:42:11 PM
Syria is very important to me.
Can we ask why?
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: WalterWhite on August 27, 2013, 05:42:53 PM
the military already ready, no proof yet, its gonna be strike first,explain later(make up something)

the people cant do shit about it, i doubt the american citizens want that.

and yeah itll onl;y take 2 days of bombarding.

sure, just like any other war, its done after 2 days and gives borth to  a shining democracy.

the argument about nerve gas, wow, the syrian rebels use beheading, so i guess thats supported by the west.

russia said they wont interfee, so yeah,its all said and done already

Your right most of us in the US are done with the BS wars/conflicts!  I'm a veteran and tired of the body bags coming home, wounded warriors  and the lies spewed from our present oligarchy! We have enough of our own issues to deal with so let France handle this haha!  Also based on the murder rates in cities like Chicago I suppose we could strike parts of that city and Detroit.
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Irongrip400 on August 27, 2013, 05:47:41 PM
Serious question. Do you think America's penchant for war has anything to do with a large population of Germans and to lesser extent, British?
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Andy Griffin on August 27, 2013, 05:51:48 PM
If Nasser were still alive he could broker a lasting peace in the region.

People of all political stripes respected the three-time (at least) uncrowned Mr. Olympia who had movie star good looks.

Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: The_Hammer on August 27, 2013, 06:03:22 PM
Syria army used chemical weapons on the rebels.

USA doesn't tolerate this.

America is the most powerful country in the world.

USA makes the rules, everyone else will obey.

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Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Tapeworm on August 27, 2013, 06:18:11 PM
  Another war

A continuous state of war.


6:30
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: WalterWhite on August 27, 2013, 06:32:03 PM
yeah its not that americans are dumb, as some think, americans are far from dumb.

not dumber than euros.

but what can they do about such behaviour?

i mean we have forein minister kerry here bullshitting the whole world, the media plays along, the whole world knows it bs, but what can be done? ???

btw i dont care neither for syria, assad, the rebels, not in the slightest,let them duke it out.

why the hell they even sending the un inspectors there when thye know(but hide)allegedly it was the govt?

and al other govts involved just play along, licking the boots.not to mention al this after the nsa disaster, where youd expect the nations to cancel diplomatic relations until this spying thing is settled.

nono, somethings totaly wrong.
nah its random historic dynamics i think.

they can currently get away with it and thats that.

all the superpowers have always done whatever they can get away with.

while they could.
I am not alone in finding my government to be the most duplicitous its ever been!  The government was well aware of the chemical-weapons attacks carried out by Saddam Hussein in the late 1980s, both against the Iranian army and against his own people, and not only did nothing to stop him, but in fact supplied him with the coordinates of Iranian force concentrations in full knowledge that he would use that information to poison them with nerve and mustard gas.

The problem here is the preverbal line in the sand rhetoric used by Obama.  Our intelligence knows when chemical or nuclear weapons are used and we don't need inspectors to inspect shit.  Now he boxed himself in as a supposed humanitarian, however, a selective one at best based on world events.

Don't get me started on Kerry's sordid past but he was a poor choice and at this juncture is just another puppet in the kings court.
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Shockwave on August 27, 2013, 06:36:40 PM
Your right most of us in the US are done with the BS wars/conflicts!  I'm a veteran and tired of the body bags coming home, wounded warriors  and the lies spewed from our present oligarchy! We have enough of our own issues to deal with so let France handle this haha!  Also based on the murder rates in cities like Chicago I suppose we could strike parts of that city and Detroit.
Agreed. More of our brothers in arms are going to come home in caskets for political greed and power, for a fucking country that we literally should have nothing to do with. Man, fuck politicians.
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: The Ugly on August 27, 2013, 06:37:19 PM
Fuck this shit, I've become an isolationist. No intervening in anyone else's affairs. Only react if we are attacked directly.
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: arce1988 on August 27, 2013, 06:38:25 PM
 This is a good thread
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on August 27, 2013, 06:57:50 PM
Serious question. Do you think America's penchant for war has anything to do with a large population of Germans and to lesser extent, British?

There is one breed of human that want to take everyone's gold. And a lot of them run shit and live in America...
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Mawse on August 27, 2013, 07:02:38 PM
 the CIA apparently needs to give our BFF's Al Quaeda a few more canisters of nerve gas and make sure they use it on an orphanage this time.

 for some reason the public doesn't seem to be biting at the bait quite as hard as they did ten years ago, if dead kids aren't enough to get the American public behind toppling Syria then how the hell are they going to get us onboard for Operation Irani Freedumb ?

Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Natural Man on August 27, 2013, 07:08:48 PM
The 1% doing their thing while the 99% either ignore, dont care, watch powerless or worse, has the impression it understands anything that's going on. Some powerful asshole just annoyed another bunch of more powerful assholes , shat where he ate, and they re going to destroy him as a result, as simple as that. Some other morons are paid to carry weapons and do the nasty job.

 And as an american, admit it, it makes you feel good to see all these cariers, planes and submarines unleashing hell on some powerless angry rageheads at the receing end. It s still better and funnier than being in his shoes at the end of the day isnt it.
We re still in a global recession and the 1% will still own your ass for a long, long time.
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 27, 2013, 07:13:17 PM
the CIA apparently needs to give our BFF's Al Quaeda a few more canisters of nerve gas and make sure they use it on an orphanage this time.

 for some reason the public doesn't seem to be biting at the bait quite as hard as they did ten years ago, if dead kids aren't enough to get the American public behind toppling Syria then how the hell are they going to get us onboard for Operation Irani Freedumb ?






Obviously we're reaching a tipping point(even for some of those in the USA that would support this administration through anything) as to what is believable.

Also, you can't discount how fast info travels now. People are making their minds up on this TODAY....not weeks and months after it happened.
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Voice of Doom on August 27, 2013, 07:16:05 PM
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Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Emmortal on August 27, 2013, 07:18:24 PM
I think a few cruise missiles at selected targets and thats it.The message will be "Use chemical weapons again and it will be this x1000 "

Who exactly is using chemical weapons?

http://web.archive.org/web/20130129213824/http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2270219/U-S-planned-launch-chemical-weapon-attack-Syria-blame-Assad.html
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Natural Man on August 27, 2013, 07:25:07 PM
So it's ok to use machine guns pistols, rpgs, artillery to kill each others... BUT NOT CHEMICALS.  Leave the NBC weapons to...the bigger boys right?


Makes perfect sense. Kill yourselves but dont use weapons that are too efficient tho.



What an idiotic, uterly cynical world.
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 27, 2013, 07:27:21 PM
where are check and balance tools in the usa government?

do they exist?

do they work?

how comes if the majority of citizens dont want this, the govt can go forward anyway?





Both parties want nearly the same things...

The Executive Branch has increased in power due to executive order and other ways congress allows...plus current executive gives no fucks about the constitution or traditional limits of power.
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Thoth on August 27, 2013, 07:28:11 PM
Doesn't matter the conspiracy, or the "correct cause" whatever.  This is nation building!  Either get with it or move to your other favorite country.

Point is< eventually someone will become "The" ruling nation...agree?  Of course.  The U>S> is on the ball with this.  In the end, everyone will be happy, except religious people!  
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: SOMEPARTS on August 27, 2013, 07:29:56 PM
So it's ok to use machine guns pistols, rpgs, artillery to kill each others... BUT NOT CHEMICALS.  Leave the NBC weapons to...the bigger boys right?


Makes perfect sense.



What an idiotic, uterly cynical world.




Rules of war is how you lose wars. War to win is mass death, total destruction until surrender and all done as fast as possible.

Don't forget we shouldn't have guns here in the USA either...
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: WalterWhite on August 27, 2013, 07:33:13 PM
Fuck this shit, I've become an isolationist. No intervening in anyone else's affairs. Only react if we are attacked directly.

And that's exactly what we were before ww2 and need to get back in that mode. 
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Natural Man on August 27, 2013, 07:36:14 PM
And that's exactly what we were before ww2 and need to get back in that mode. 
yeah but you wouldnt have cheap oil for your car  ;)
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Mawse on August 27, 2013, 07:43:10 PM



Obviously we're reaching a tipping point(even for some of those in the USA that would support this administration through anything) as to what is believable.

Also, you can't discount how fast info travels now. People are making their minds up on this TODAY....not weeks and months after it happened.

80% of the country is asleep at the wheel, they don't know, don't believe or just don't care if their own government gives the guys who took down the WTC a truck of chemical weapons to use on innocent civilians. And there's always going to be this guy to neutralize your vote come election time.

(http://moonbattery.com/still-supports-obama.jpg)
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: thebrink on August 27, 2013, 07:46:57 PM
And that's exactly what we were before ww2 and need to get back in that mode. 

do u think their are second gen nazis working in high places in the us gov't ?
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 27, 2013, 07:49:05 PM
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Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: The Ugly on August 27, 2013, 07:50:00 PM
.

Is that Denise Rutkowski?
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: WalterWhite on August 27, 2013, 07:51:33 PM
not just for the car, oil is used in almost everything, but usa will soon use its own resources, good times ahead, i really wish the usa well.


The amount of oil produced in the U.S., now at a 21 year high, is nearly even with the amount being imported, and the gap is narrowing.  We could be on parity by years end. This is now being reflected in the futures market.
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: arce1988 on August 27, 2013, 08:04:55 PM
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Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: polychronopolous on August 27, 2013, 08:11:03 PM
The amount of oil produced in the U.S., now at a 21 year high, is nearly even with the amount being imported, and the gap is narrowing.  We could be on parity by years end. This is now being reflected in the futures market.

So much natural gas that wells are literally having to shutdown because of an extremely over saturated market. USA is heading into a major energy boom.
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 27, 2013, 08:11:50 PM
Is that Denise Rutkowski?
Looks maybe so sad to see.
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Kwon_2 on August 27, 2013, 08:27:30 PM
Epic old lady shoes with corresponding pant-suit
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: O.Z. on August 27, 2013, 10:34:40 PM
this guy deserves very severe beating,just for waering these shoes.

whjat a faggggoottt


lol I used to wear shoes like that. Mind you it was like 25 years ago.
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Chacka on August 27, 2013, 11:07:23 PM
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thank god.everything will be fine now
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on August 27, 2013, 11:11:38 PM
80% of the country is asleep at the wheel, they don't know, don't believe or just don't care if their own government gives the guys who took down the WTC a truck of chemical weapons to use on innocent civilians. And there's always going to be this guy to neutralize your vote come election time.

(http://moonbattery.com/still-supports-obama.jpg)

This guy with the shoes is waiting for a missile to destroy him...A meat missile :-\
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Chacka on August 27, 2013, 11:21:41 PM


CNN:French President Francois Hollande said his administration was "ready to punish those who made the decision to gas these innocent people,"

...once the French start piling on the shits officially inevitable
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: dj181 on August 28, 2013, 12:15:58 AM
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Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Skylge on August 28, 2013, 01:43:05 AM
Is there a muslim country that has not been bombed by the USA? No wonder they hate americans. When is Obama going to bomb Iran?
Perhaps shale oil is a very good thing: the less dependent the USA becomes on Arab oil, the less country they have to bombard and/or occupy.

This is how and why corrupt American politicians start wars:


www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/6559865/a293f092/seven_countries_in_five_years.html
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Skylge on August 28, 2013, 01:46:41 AM
Is will be great when Assad is killed, so fundamentalists can take over Syria, and start terror campaings with the chemical weapons they find...
Will be as successful as the bombing of Lybia, and the lost war in Afghanistan, where taliban terrorists will regain control over the country as soon as all foreign occupiers have left. What a waste of tax payer money and lives...
Title: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on August 28, 2013, 02:06:11 AM
How do you think it will affect your workout and drug regimes?  Sorta hard to build muscle when you are dying of cancer from nuclear fallout?
Title: Re: If Syrian situation goes WWIII with Russia v USA
Post by: Kwon_2 on August 28, 2013, 02:12:59 AM
How do you think it will affect your workout and drug regimes?  Sorta hard to build muscle when you are dying of cancer from nuclear fallout?

Get Big or Die (In the Nuclear Fallout Scenario: Get Big and Die/While Dying)
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Andy Griffin on August 28, 2013, 02:32:50 AM
this guy deserves very severe beating,just for waering these shoes.

whjat a faggggoottt

Not to mention his shiny pants, right-hand jewelry, and 2010 Justin Bieber haircut.

Title: Re: If Syrian situation goes WWIII with Russia v USA
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on August 28, 2013, 02:36:15 AM
(http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/the-toxic-avenger-remake.jpeg)
Title: Re: If Syrian situation goes WWIII with Russia v USA
Post by: paradoxno1 on August 28, 2013, 03:02:03 AM
 There is one positive outcome...A new Call Of Duty map.

Title: Re: If Syrian situation goes WWIII with Russia v USA
Post by: bigmc on August 28, 2013, 03:04:12 AM
I wouldn't let a nuclear holocaust make me miss the anabolic window
Title: Re: If Syrian situation goes WWIII with Russia v USA
Post by: Archer77 on August 28, 2013, 03:18:26 AM
Im banking on the radiation improving my conditioning.

Title: Re: If Syrian situation goes WWIII with Russia v USA
Post by: Andy Griffin on August 28, 2013, 03:22:36 AM
Im banking on the radiation improving my conditioning.



It might not work out that well.

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Title: Re: If Syrian situation goes WWIII with Russia v USA
Post by: Tito24 on August 28, 2013, 04:11:22 AM
most here will die with a dick in the mouth
Title: Re: If Syrian situation goes WWIII with Russia v USA
Post by: The Showstoppa on August 28, 2013, 04:18:31 AM
most here will die with a dick in the mouth

Getting that bad in europe,huh Mars?
Title: Re: If Syrian situation goes WWIII with Russia v USA
Post by: Archer77 on August 28, 2013, 04:26:46 AM
most here will die with a dick in the mouth

Better than in the ass, as grandpa Adonis used to say.
Title: Re: If Syrian situation goes WWIII with Russia v USA
Post by: missile on August 28, 2013, 04:27:57 AM
(http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/the-toxic-avenger-remake.jpeg)

This is what all Americans will look like soon.

HAHAHAHA STUPID AMERICANOS.

 [size=9]BOOOM[/size]

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Title: Re: If Syrian situation goes WWIII with Russia v USA
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 28, 2013, 04:51:27 AM
No problem Wiggs is flying a B52 in taking those mofo's out.
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Teutonic Knight on August 28, 2013, 05:11:24 AM
I think a few cruise missiles at selected targets and thats it.The message will be "Use chemical weapons again and it will be this x1000 "

Turkey is NATO member & is bordering Syria  ;)
NATO-German Rocket boys a allready in Turkey with theirs toy's  ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 28, 2013, 05:17:48 AM
We take care of certain countries because we need the oil to make gas to fuel cars. Very simple if the other countries don't want to comply they are to get the B52 Bomber.
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Teutonic Knight on August 28, 2013, 05:30:24 AM
Interesting to see the warfare technology of 2013.

What new tech will be used?


Interestingly NATO is having "War Games" (24 Aug-8 Sep) in Croatia with troops from:
U.K.,Northern Ireland,Czech Republic,USA,Hungary,Croatia & small (non Nato) contingent
from Monte Negro.B-52 Stratofortresses will be in action too.
So something is going on  ;)
B-52's from NATO bases in Italy,Germany & Croatia (+ French & British bombers) could be
over Syria in 6 hours (+/-).
Israel would probably cross into Lebanon & screw Hezbolah  :)
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 28, 2013, 05:51:35 AM
Interestingly NATO is having "War Games" (24 Aug-8 Sep) in Croatia with troops from:
U.K.,Northern Ireland,Czech Republic,USA,Hungary,Croatia & small (non Nato) contingent
from Monte Negro.B-52 Stratofortresses will be in action too.
So something is going on  ;)
B-52's from NATO bases in Italy,Germany & Croatia (+ French & British bombers) could be
over Syria in 6 hours (+/-).
Israel would probably cross into Lebanon & screw Hezbolah  :)

Israel crushed Syria in the six day war. Maybe we need to call them to do it again. I am not religious just want peace in the world, why can't we all get along.
Title: Re: If Syrian situation goes WWIII with Russia v USA
Post by: 240 is Back on August 28, 2013, 06:05:11 AM
as long as the cans of whoop-ass aren't glued as tight as aqua fina bottles at Mets game, we should be just fine.
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Rami on August 28, 2013, 06:08:08 AM
Nothing will happen, this is just political pressurr.
Title: Re: If Syrian situation goes WWIII with Russia v USA
Post by: Z Father on August 28, 2013, 06:28:27 AM
as long as the cans of whoop-ass aren't glued as tight as aqua fina bottles at Mets game, we should be just fine.

That bitch was tighter than the cap of an Aquafina bottle
Title: Re: If Syrian situation goes WWIII with Russia v USA
Post by: gmflex on August 28, 2013, 07:27:47 AM
There is one positive outcome...A new Call Of Duty map.



 ;D
 ;D
Lmao







Title: Re: If Syrian situation goes WWIII with Russia v USA
Post by: Nails on August 28, 2013, 10:51:06 AM
Russia hates Fagggs  - America loves them
Russia is harboring and protecting an American traitor Snowden
American will bomb the shit out of Syria in a matter of days ,and turn it into craters


Russia and China have stepped up their warnings against military intervention in Syria, with Moscow saying any such action would have "catastrophic consequences"

 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23845800 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23845800)
Title: Re: If Syrian situation goes WWIII with Russia v USA
Post by: Natural Man on August 28, 2013, 11:29:48 AM
newsflash, putin, the sheiks and obonga/bush and co are all laughing out loud with their arm selling friends and other "politicians" "religious leaders" trying hard not to choke on their caviar and champagne. They cant wait to start a little fireworks, but in the end, they re all business partners first and foremost. They dont give a single fuck about the common man, woman or kid from "down below in the pyramid", whatever his, her skin color. It's all about riches vs poors, powerful vs weak, dominating vs dominated.

There wont be any WWIII, the current war is between the 1% and the 99%. Considering the 99% want to be part of the 1%, they ll always keep destroying themselves at the amusement of the 1% who give them a salary instead of focusing on destroying the very same 1%. Animals, the lots of us.

The big, fat cigar smoking deciders are always comfortably sited in a nice warm desk, while the rest of mankind is trying to get at their level to take their place in the comfy chair.
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: arce1988 on August 28, 2013, 11:34:43 AM
Viva la revolución
Title: Re: If Syrian situation goes WWIII with Russia v USA
Post by: Tito24 on August 28, 2013, 11:40:13 AM
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Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Natural Man on August 28, 2013, 11:41:18 AM
Israel crushed Syria in the six day war. Maybe we need to call them to do it again. I am not religious just want peace in the world, why can't we all get along.
Because it's not the point , meaning, purpose of human life. Everything that lives is at war against other lifeforms from brith to death. Mankind is going to destroy itself and in the end only a very few chosen ones will remain. PEace, eternity arent on earth, they re somewhere else. Ever heard of that book called the Bible?
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 28, 2013, 11:43:08 AM
Because it's not the point , meaning, purpose of human life. Everything that lives is at war against other lifeforms from brith to death. Mankind is going to destroy itself and in the end only a very few chosen ones will remain. PEace, eternity arent on earth, they re somewhere else. Ever heard of that book called the Bible?
I heard of it once.
Title: Re: If Syrian situation goes WWIII with Russia v USA
Post by: orion on August 28, 2013, 01:08:40 PM
Fact, anadrol is used to combat radiation poisoning so getbiggers in the know will be okay.  Those claiming to be natural will perish in a gruesome and painful way, as well they should.
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: B_B_C on August 28, 2013, 01:09:40 PM
I heard of it once.

so did the uberOnanist but he got scared of the bits that talk about love - a risk too far for him?
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 28, 2013, 01:20:22 PM
so did the uberOnanist but he got scared of the bits that talk about love - a risk too far for him?
Now a strange occurance today, a neighbor today I go to my car this dude in my suburb is pissed off at something he used to be fat I never met him but seen him he has lost weight. Seems he has a new Suv whatever the fuck it is. So I go to the gas station the mofo is there and irrate dont now his issue never seen a girl at his house probably gay he used to have a Dalmation dog. I havent seen it two years the dude is creepy, but his house and yard always maintained. I always have my shotgun by my door.
Title: Re: If Syrian situation goes WWIII with Russia v USA
Post by: BRO on August 28, 2013, 01:28:47 PM
Get Big or Die (In the Nuclear Fallout Scenario: Get Big and Die/While Dying)

See what you did there...
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: The Showstoppa on August 28, 2013, 01:33:21 PM
Now a strange occurance today, a neighbor today I go to my car this dude in my suburb is pissed off at something he used to be fat I never met him but seen him he has lost weight. Seems he has a new Suv whatever the fuck it is. So I go to the gas station the mofo is there and irrate dont now his issue never seen a girl at his house probably gay he used to have a Dalmation dog. I havent seen it two years the dude is creepy, but his house and yard always maintained. I always have my shotgun by my door.

You hittin the Red Oak, bro?
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 28, 2013, 01:43:02 PM
You hittin the Red Oak, bro?
No Red Oak is bitter, you like it?
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: The Showstoppa on August 28, 2013, 01:43:44 PM
No Red Oak is bitter, you like it?

Ok.  I like IPA's more. 
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Mitch on August 28, 2013, 01:45:02 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2404550/Injuries-Syrians-Assads-political-rivals-say-targeted-phosphorous-bombs.html

Thy flesh consumed  :-X
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: Mr Nobody on August 28, 2013, 01:46:53 PM
Ok.  I like IPA's more. 
Sounds ok unless Jack King disapproves.
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: The Showstoppa on August 28, 2013, 01:53:47 PM
Sounds ok unless Jack King disapproves.

I think Jack only partook of wine. 
Title: Re: So when does the USA attack Syria?
Post by: arce1988 on August 28, 2013, 02:48:27 PM
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Title: Re: If Syrian situation goes WWIII with Russia v USA
Post by: arce1988 on August 28, 2013, 02:50:59 PM
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Title: Re: If Syrian situation goes WWIII with Russia v USA
Post by: _bruce_ on August 28, 2013, 04:04:31 PM
newsflash, putin, the sheiks and obonga/bush and co are all laughing out loud with their arm selling friends and other "politicians" "religious leaders" trying hard not to choke on their caviar and champagne. They cant wait to start a little fireworks, but in the end, they re all business partners first and foremost. They dont give a single fuck about the common man, woman or kid from "down below in the pyramid", whatever his, her skin color. It's all about riches vs poors, powerful vs weak, dominating vs dominated.

There wont be any WWIII, the current war is between the 1% and the 99%. Considering the 99% want to be part of the 1%, they ll always keep destroying themselves at the amusement of the 1% who give them a salary instead of focusing on destroying the very same 1%. Animals, the lots of us.

The big, fat cigar smoking deciders are always comfortably sited in a nice warm desk, while the rest of mankind is trying to get at their level to take their place in the comfy chair.

Pretty much, the same old story.. along winded path of "conflicts" to mask the return to a globally united feudal system.
Though some pedal to the metal escalation is possible - Russia and China could also pull away the carpet under the US' feet via economic means.
Title: Why attack Syria?
Post by: Irongrip400 on August 28, 2013, 06:11:16 PM
When they may have killed a few people with gas, but those fucking Koreans talked all that shit and we did nothing?
Title: Re: Why attack Syria?
Post by: Kwon_2 on August 28, 2013, 06:17:48 PM
Clearly the US isn't as wary of Syria as they are of the crazy NorthKoreans.

And they are not as afraid of Syrias allies as they are of NKoreas allies.

What do they profit by attacking Syria compared to NK?
(http://eofdreams.com/data_images/dreams/oil/oil-01.jpg)
Title: Re: Why attack Syria?
Post by: arce1988 on August 28, 2013, 06:19:01 PM
(http://www.proactiveinvestors.com/genera//img/companies/news/oil350_513702ab89c4c.jpg)
Title: Re: Why attack Syria?
Post by: Irongrip400 on August 28, 2013, 06:32:42 PM
(http://www.proactiveinvestors.com/genera//img/companies/news/oil350_513702ab89c4c.jpg)

It can't really be that transparent, right? I mean, haven't we hit oil here in America recently, that will cut our dependence on foreign oil?
Title: Re: Why attack Syria?
Post by: O.Z. on August 28, 2013, 06:35:00 PM
(http://www.proactiveinvestors.com/genera//img/companies/news/oil350_513702ab89c4c.jpg)

Arce,

just a question for you. I remember you were saying that you were in US Army for extended period of time, based somewhere overseas, correct?
 Now I can see that your stand is firmly against all US involvements in those recent and current and future wars. What would you do if they ask you to enlist again and go to some place like Afghanistan
or somewhere in Middle East? Would you go there?
Title: Re: Why attack Syria?
Post by: arce1988 on August 28, 2013, 06:37:04 PM
  I was USMC. I am done. I do NOT trust the USA ANY more.

"We're (USA) going to take out seven countries in five years."

Iraq
Syria
Lebanon
Libya
Somalia
Sudan
Iran

02:25 Mark

Title: Re: Why attack Syria?
Post by: G_Thang on August 28, 2013, 06:45:05 PM
When they may have killed a few people with gas, but those fucking Koreans talked all that shit and we did nothing?

Oil and Technology win over in the Mid-East.  Who the fuck wants to get bog down in a jungle fight with Asians where it's man-man vs man-tech in Mid-East?  Americunts have learned their lessons from previous battles.  
Title: Re: Why attack Syria?
Post by: tommywishbone on August 28, 2013, 06:50:17 PM
Syria.  ;D ;D Hahahaha!  I am more concerned with Vince and his radio show than the entire country of Syria. Syria sucks.
Title: Re: Why attack Syria?
Post by: Dragoon on August 28, 2013, 06:52:11 PM
Who has nukes and who doesn't?  There's your answer, and hence why Iran , etc. all want their own nukes.
Title: Re: Why attack Syria?
Post by: smoothasf on August 28, 2013, 06:55:04 PM
Your missing the point, the US government has no right to be there. The US army is a terrorist army in itself, no one wants this to happen. If you watch the news in any other country it's against it. It's not whether you can beat them, it's why are you there in the first place.
Title: Re: Why attack Syria?
Post by: Kwon_2 on August 28, 2013, 06:56:42 PM
Syria.  ;D ;D Hahahaha!  I am more concerned with Vince and his radio show than the entire country of Syria. Syria sucks.

 ;D
Title: Re: Why attack Syria?
Post by: Irongrip400 on August 28, 2013, 06:57:49 PM
Your missing the point, the US government has no right to be there. The US army is a terrorist army in itself, no one wants this to happen. If you watch the news in any other country it's against it. It's not whether you can beat them, it's why are you there in the first place.

Kind of my point. Someone free us from this mess.
Title: Re: Why attack Syria?
Post by: Kwon_2 on August 28, 2013, 06:58:38 PM
Your missing the point, the US government has no right to be there. The US army is a terrorist army in itself, no one wants this to happen. If you watch the news in any other country it's against it. It's not whether you can beat them, it's why are you there in the first place.

US can do what it wants, nobody wants/dares to step up against US, at least not yet.

Any threat has been Shut Down with superior Military/Tech

US never needs to ask Why, just do because they can.

Only ones that could step up against US would be Joined Forces of Russia + China, but nobody wants to risk a Third World War with Nukes (end of mankind)

Let US mop up the middle-east the best they can/want and do not question Why.

Other countries can be "skeptic" and "frown at this behavior" , but it takes alot to do something about it in reality (too many risks)
Title: Re: Why attack Syria?
Post by: a_ahmed on August 28, 2013, 08:45:45 PM
superior military my ass the US hasn't won any war, it just destroyed countries but it didn't win shit. People with ak47s are winning against America's 'super military'.

This is just garbage, the whole world has been turned into turmoil because of American greed. And then we'll have ww3... great.. we're all screwed.

Blame it on the mozzlems but waaait who is the one starting all the wars, all the violence, all the invsaions, who is the biggest maker of weapons, biggest seller of weapons. There's little to be said. The US is on the side of evil and the whole world knows it except most US citizens themselves.

The US is crumbling slowly but surely that's what's for sure. 17 trillion dollars of debt and growing.. yeah, you're 'rich' and 'successful'. Bringing the whole world down.

Syrians have been fighting and have started winning against Assad. Why the sudden change of heart? Just an opportunity.

The US doesn't give a shit, only gives a shit about it's own political interests which are always against the local people and that's why the rest of the world hates the US. Double standards, greed, hypocricy.

Look at Egypt, a complete turn around the revolution destroyed, the same kind of filth military dictatorship reinstalled in the interests of the US and Israel.

The world knows what's up. US and Israel with their noses up, but it won't last.

Russia sucks too, and play its own dirty games.. in the end it's innoscent people who suffer and the whole world is going to suffer.

The one thing I'm concerned with more than anything else is asshole american troops using depleted uranium I don't care if they themselves get cancer, good for them, but the civillians will suffer. The chemical waste left behind has destroyed Kosovo/Serbia, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan and now will do the same in Syria.

Rise in cancers, birth defects, deformities, abnormalities, etc... it's all well documented... that's the saddest part of all.
Title: Re: Why attack Syria?
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 28, 2013, 08:47:44 PM
 I was USMC. I am done. I do NOT trust the USA ANY more.

"We're (USA) going to take out seven countries in five years."

Iraq
Syria
Lebanon
Libya
Somalia
Sudan
Iran

02:25 Mark



THIS^^^^^^^^^^
Title: Re: Why attack Syria?
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 28, 2013, 08:50:00 PM
Syrians have been fighting and have started winning against Assad. Why the sudden change of heart? Just an opportunity.

Relax, Obama is coming to the rescue of Al Qaeda in the next few hours.
Title: Re: Why attack Syria?
Post by: a_ahmed on August 28, 2013, 08:52:27 PM
No one wants the US there, not even the Syrians, the US can go fuck itself. It will just destroy another country.
Title: Re: Why attack Syria?
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 28, 2013, 08:53:44 PM
No one wants the US there, not even the Syrians, the US can go fuck itself. It will just destroy another country.

Trust me, Obama has us fighting on the side of Al Qaeda.
Title: Re: Why attack Syria?
Post by: cswol on August 28, 2013, 08:56:07 PM
the illuminati uses the cia and u.s. military to invade soveirgn countries and overthrow their leaders and steal the countries natural resources, then turn power over to muslim brotherhood
Title: Re: Why attack Syria?
Post by: cswol on August 28, 2013, 08:58:20 PM
Title: Re: Why attack Syria?
Post by: cswol on August 28, 2013, 09:00:25 PM
Title: Re: Why attack Syria?
Post by: cswol on August 28, 2013, 09:03:04 PM
Title: Re: Why attack Syria?
Post by: The Ugly on August 28, 2013, 09:04:44 PM
Don't you ever bore yourself with this shit?
Title: Re: Why attack Syria?
Post by: cswol on August 28, 2013, 09:05:55 PM
you can say they are boring themselves, but actually they will be gaining knowledge and being able to connect the dots and decide for themselves and change the course of their life and mind, heart, and soul.
Title: Re: Why attack Syria?
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 28, 2013, 09:06:11 PM
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2335257/pg1
Title: Re: Why attack Syria?
Post by: arce1988 on August 28, 2013, 09:08:15 PM
  Arce,

  Just a question for you. I remember you were saying that you were in USMC for extended period of time, based somewhere overseas, correct?

 Now I can see that your stand is firmly against ALL US involvements in those recent and current and future wars.

  What would you do if they ask you to enlist again and go to some place like Afghanistan
or somewhere in Middle East?

  Would you go there?



^

Fixed
Title: Re: Why attack Syria?
Post by: cswol on August 28, 2013, 09:15:08 PM
roger bacon..............yes bro
Title: Re: Why attack Syria?
Post by: arce1988 on August 28, 2013, 09:20:54 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Why attack Syria?
Post by: Obvious Gimmick on August 28, 2013, 10:16:59 PM
Fuck Syria. I don't care either way. But Obama opened his big fat mouth and now we gotta land a few tomahawk enemas up that butthole of a country or we look like pussies.


America fuck yay!!!!
Title: Re: Why attack Syria?
Post by: honest on August 28, 2013, 11:55:12 PM
The west has killed far more children than Assad on their world wide democracy exploitation but no ones doing a body count, USA ruined a whole country on a claim of WMD,that was later found to be false. each country that they destabilise and help over throw the power vacuum is filled with Taliban style Muslim governments that will eventually turn on the them, just dumb.
Title: Re: Why attack Syria?
Post by: Kwon_2 on August 29, 2013, 12:12:33 AM
Reason to Wage war with Troy / attack Syria etc

Helen
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Title: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: arce1988 on August 29, 2013, 02:33:15 PM
UK: Attack on Syria justified
Title: Re: UK on Syria
Post by: Frank Clairmonte on August 29, 2013, 02:36:44 PM
UK is one big joke.

Title: Re: UK on Syria
Post by: bradistani on August 29, 2013, 02:38:06 PM
looking tuff by bombing 3rd worlders is always a big vote winner here with the slugs

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Title: Re: UK on Syria
Post by: Wiggs on August 29, 2013, 02:42:32 PM
UK, USA, Israel = One in the same.
Title: Re: UK on Syria
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on August 29, 2013, 02:45:58 PM
Is this prince baby approved?

(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02626/royal-baby-boy_2626317b.jpg)
Title: Re: UK on Syria
Post by: Teutonic Knight on August 29, 2013, 02:48:46 PM
UK, USA, Israel = One in the same.

So "brainy" Wigg, all British a Jews too  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: UK on Syria
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 29, 2013, 02:51:22 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/29/british-parliament-syria-vote_n_3839067.html


They just voted it down
Title: Re: UK on Syria
Post by: Wiggs on August 29, 2013, 02:56:18 PM
So "brainy" Wigg, all British a Jews too  ::) ::) ::)

Aye, you dumb convict (Aussie) I told you before, unless you comment on my video I posted last week to piss off and not too address me again. That still stands indefinitely. You must feel pretty stupid making all these posts and I don't respond to them...carry on.
Title: will oboma take the route of peace when dealing with syria
Post by: Marty Champions on August 29, 2013, 03:11:17 PM
will he be the hope and change that he promised

perhaps a peacefull conflict resolution measure is in order?
Title: Re: UK on Syria
Post by: Teutonic Knight on August 29, 2013, 03:35:11 PM
Just post #. of yours Israels Citezenship certificate  ;D, NON Jew Wigg  ;D
Title: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: Kwon_2 on August 29, 2013, 03:38:33 PM
Kwon: Attack on Syria Justified.

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Title: Re: UK on Syria
Post by: arce1988 on August 29, 2013, 03:39:01 PM
  They just did     but this is NOT the end of it
Title: Re: Kwon on Syria
Post by: arce1988 on August 29, 2013, 03:51:45 PM
 :D ;D
Title: Re: Kwon on Syria
Post by: Kwon_2 on August 29, 2013, 03:59:29 PM
:D ;D

 ;D


Big question though, will the soldiers use PED?
Title: Re: Kwon on Syria
Post by: The True Adonis on August 29, 2013, 04:00:50 PM
Good Riddance to the Koran Thumpers!
Title: Re: If Syrian situation goes WWIII with Russia v USA
Post by: Natural Man on August 29, 2013, 04:35:11 PM
Pretty much, the same old story.. along winded path of "conflicts" to mask the return to a globally united feudal system.
Though some pedal to the metal escalation is possible - Russia and China could also pull away the carpet under the US' feet via economic means.
call it a feudal system, it is an ANIMAL system. Even before the middle age it worked the same way.
Title: Re: If Syrian situation goes WWIII with Russia v USA
Post by: Kwon_2 on August 29, 2013, 05:04:21 PM
Have we become any more civilized in 2010+ than before? (Middle-ages etc)

How would the world have looked today if you had todays arms and weapons technology back in the 1090s?

Scenario is this, the exact same political system and society as it were back in 1090s, but suddenly given access to Bombers, Missiles, Tanks, Machineguns etc
Title: Re: If Syrian situation goes WWIII with Russia v USA
Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on August 29, 2013, 07:09:27 PM
Pretty much, the same old story.. along winded path of "conflicts" to mask the return to a globally united feudal system.
Though some pedal to the metal escalation is possible - Russia and China could also pull away the carpet under the US' feet via economic means.



 http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/29/us-syria-crisis-cyberspace-analysis-idUSBRE97S04Z20130829?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews




(Reuters) - If the United States attacks Syria, it will be the first time it strikes a country that is capable of waging retaliatory cyberspace attacks on American targets.

The risk is heightened by Syria's alliance with Iran, which has built up its cyber capability in the past three years, and already gives the country technical and other support. If Iran stood with Syria in any fray with the United States that would significantly increase the cyber threat, security experts said.

Organized cyber attacks have already been carried out by the Syrian Electronic Army (SEA), a hacking group loyal to the government of President Bashar al-Assad. It has disrupted the websites of U.S. media and Internet companies and is now threatening to step up such hacking if Washington bombs Damascus.

"It's likely that the Syrian Electronic Army does something in response, perhaps with some assistance from Iranian-related groups," said former White House cybersecurity and counter terror advisor Richard Clarke.

Little is known about the hackers behind the Syrian Electronic Army, and there is no evidence that the group is capable of destructive attacks on critical infrastructure.

However, former U.S. National Security Agency director Michael Hayden told Reuters that the SEA "sounds like an Iranian proxy," and it could have much greater ability than it has displayed.

Thus far, the SEA's most disruptive act was in April when it broke into the Twitter account of the Associated Press and sent fictional tweets about explosions at the White House. The false messages sent the stock market into a downward spiral that, for a short time, erased more than $100 billion in value.

In an email to Reuters on Wednesday, the SEA said if the U.S. military moves against Syria "our targets will be different."

"Everything will be possible if the U.S. begins hostile military actions against Syria," the group said in the note.

President Barack Obama vowed on Wednesday that the Syrian government would face "international consequences" for last week's deadly chemical attack in Syria, but he made clear that any military action would be limited.

Asked about the threat of cyber retaliation, U.S. Department of Homeland Security spokesman Peter Boogaard said the government "is closely following the situation and actively collaborates and shares information with public and private sector partners every day."

A U.S. Department of Defense spokesman said he could not discuss specific threats, while another source at the Pentagon said no unusual activity had been detected by late on Wednesday.

IRAN SHARPENS ITS GAME

Cyber experts have said that Iran increased its cyber capabilities after the United States used the Stuxnet virus to attack Tehran's nuclear program.

U.S. intelligence officials have blamed hackers sponsored by Iran for a series of so-called distributed-denial-of-service attacks against many U.S. banking sites. In DDoS attacks, thousands of computers try to contact a target website at the same time, overwhelming it and rendering it inaccessible.

In three waves of attacks since last September, consumers have reported inability to conduct online transactions at more than a dozen banks, including Wells Fargo & Co, Citigroup Inc, JPMorgan Chase & Co and Bank of America Corp. Banks have spent millions of dollars to fend off the hackers and restore service.

Researchers have said that Iran has also infiltrated Western oil companies, and it could try to destroy data, though that would increase the risk of retaliation by the United States.

Things in cyberspace would get more complicated if Russia, an ally of Iran and Syria, were to step in. Former Obama administration officials have said that Russia, which has supplied arms to Syria, has cyber capabilities nearly as powerful as the United States.

Even if the Russian government did not act directly, the country's private hackers rank with those in China in their ability and willingness to conduct "patriotic" attacks. Cyber experts have said that Russian hackers have struck at government and other sites in Estonia and Georgia.

The Syrian Electronic Army's servers are based in Russia, and that alliance could strengthen if matters in Syria became more dramatic, said Paul Ferguson of the Internet security company IID.

"We already have a bad geopolitical situation," Ferguson said. "This could play into the entire narrative I don't want to see happen."

It is unclear how much cyber damage Syria could or would want to inflict, said Dmitri Alperovitch, chief technology officer of security firm CrowdStrike.

"We haven't seen significant intrusion capabilities from them or destructive capabilities," he said.

Earlier this week, as the Obama administration pushed for more support for strikes on Syria, the New York Times, Twitter and the Huffington Post lost control of some of their websites. The SEA claimed responsibility for the attacks.

Security experts said electronic records showed that NYTimes.com, the only site with an hours-long outage, redirected visitors to a server controlled by the Syrian group.

The SEA had planned to post anti-war messages on the Times site but was overwhelmed by the traffic it received and its server crashed, the SEA said by email. Late on Wednesday, some users still could not access NYTimes.com.

The SEA managed to gain control of the New York Times web address by penetrating MelbourneIT, an Australian Internet service provider that sells and manages domain names.

It could have done much worse with such access, experts said, underscoring the vulnerability of major companies that use outside providers.

"Chief information officers need to realize that critical pieces of their online entities are controlled by vendors and that security policies should apply to them as well," said Amichai Shulman, chief technology officer at security firm Imperva.



  http://www.offthegridnews.com/2013/08/28/power-grid-down-drill-to-be-conducted-by-us-government/


Power grid vulnerabilities are finally garnering some attention by government officials.

An electrical grid joint drill simulation is being planned in the United States, Canada and Mexico. Thousands of utility workers, FBI agents, anti-terrorism experts, governmental agencies, and more than 150 private businesses are involved in the November power grid drill.

The downed power grid simulation will reportedly focus on both physical and cyber attacks. The antiquated electrical system in the United States has been one of the most neglected pieces of integral infrastructure.

The EMP Commission, created by Congress, released a report in 2008 calling for increased planning and testing, and a stockpiling of needed repair items.

The SHIELD Act, which is stalled in Congress, is the first serious piece of legislation in many years to attempt to address the vulnerabilities of the power grid in. As previously reported by Off The Grid News, a recent American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE) report gave the power grid a “D+” when grading various pieces of infrastructure and public services in the United States.

The disaster drill is being described as a crisis practice unlike anything the real power grid has ever experienced. The GridEX II drill Nov. 13-14 will focus primarily on how governments will react if the electrical grid fails and, for instance, the food supply chain collapses.

American utility companies are responsible for running approximately 5,800 power plants and about 450,000 high-voltage transmission lines, controlled by various devices which have been put into place over the past decades. Some of the utility companies which oversee the power grid reportedly use “antique computer protocols” which are “probably” safe from cyber hackers,” The New York Times reported.

The Times said experts call the power grid the nation’s “glass jaw.” Even the military gets 99 percent of its power the same way everyday citizens get it – from commercially run companies.

Harness the power of the sun when the power goes out…

“If an adversary lands a knockout blow, [experts] fear, it could black out vast areas of the continent for weeks; interrupt supplies of water, gasoline, diesel fuel and fresh food; shut down communications; and create disruptions of a scale that was only hinted at by Hurricane Sandy and the attacks of Sept. 11,” The Times said.

Former Federal Energy Regulatory Commission chairman Curt Hebert stated that if the nation fails at electricity, “we’re going to fail miserably” at everything else.

Hebert also noted that during prior power grid drills, the scenario assumed the system would be up and running again relatively quickly after an attack. This drill will assume it’s out much longer.

If the power grid fails, a lack of electricity and food delivery are only the first wave of troubles facing the American people. Police could face major problems with civil unrest. Of course, there also would not be any electric heating or cooling, which easily could lead to many deaths depending on the season.

A 2012 report by the National Academy of Science said terrorists could cripple the nation by damaging or destroying hard-to-replace components, some of which aren’t even made in the United States.

“Of particular concern are giant custom-built transformers that increase the voltage of electricity to levels suited for bulk transmission and then reduce voltage for distribution to customers,” The Times said in a summary of the report. “… Replacing them can take many months.”

Said Clark W. Gellings, a researcher at the Electric Power Research Institute, “I don’t think we pay quite enough attention to the technology fixes that would allow us to make the power system more resilient.”

Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: _bruce_ on August 30, 2013, 04:41:33 AM
The US is pretty vulnerable when attacked via creative means from many different sources.
She will go down, not in a romantic way, whether or not she sets the globe on fire via military muscle - time is short as the money bubble is at the heart of the machine.
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: missile on August 30, 2013, 04:51:20 AM
I am very happy America is helping overthrow Ass-ad.

He has made Syria much to "western" with all religions gets freedom and women get rights etc etc   With Ass-ad gone the old school brothers will bring back the old days.
Title: Re: Kwon on Syria
Post by: missile on August 30, 2013, 05:04:55 AM
Good Riddance to the Koran Thumpers!

Fuck you asshole!  Iran is gonna nuke your dumb American ass LOL
Title: Re: Kwon on Syria
Post by: Archer77 on August 30, 2013, 05:09:08 AM
Fuck you asshole!  Iran is gonna nuke your dumb American ass LOL

I don't worry about that.  Even if they had the capability to launch a nuclear weapon they wouldn't bother with the area of the country I live in.
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: Griffith on August 30, 2013, 06:00:44 AM
It doesn't matter whether its justified or not or even what the facts are.

What's important is that America's geopolitical goals are achieved and everyone is reminded that its the West who call the shots.

And if you disagree, we'll use brute force and crush you with our superior technology and military force just like our ancestors have always done.

;D
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: Chacka on August 30, 2013, 08:07:45 AM

"end days" are here bruhs    :D
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 30, 2013, 08:08:09 AM
http://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-post-of-assads-11-year-old-son-2013-8


LOL!!!!
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on August 30, 2013, 08:13:34 AM
http://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-post-of-assads-11-year-old-son-2013-8


LOL!!!!

HA HA this kid owns Obama.
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: Chacka on August 30, 2013, 08:16:30 AM


PARIS (AP) — The United States found itself Friday with France as its only major partner in a potential strike against Syria


the French has our back, everything be fine  :P
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on August 30, 2013, 08:17:55 AM

PARIS (AP) — The United States found itself Friday with France as its only major partner in a potential strike against Syria


the French has our back, everything be fine  :P

Yes, the French are very brave, until someone fights back.
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: James on August 30, 2013, 08:42:10 AM

Title: Re: If Syrian situation goes WWIII with Russia v USA
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on August 30, 2013, 09:21:27 AM


 http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/29/us-syria-crisis-cyberspace-analysis-idUSBRE97S04Z20130829?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews




(Reuters) - If the United States attacks Syria, it will be the first time it strikes a country that is capable of waging retaliatory cyberspace attacks on American targets.

The risk is heightened by Syria's alliance with Iran, which has built up its cyber capability in the past three years, and already gives the country technical and other support. If Iran stood with Syria in any fray with the United States that would significantly increase the cyber threat, security experts said.

Organized cyber attacks have already been carried out by the Syrian Electronic Army (SEA), a hacking group loyal to the government of President Bashar al-Assad. It has disrupted the websites of U.S. media and Internet companies and is now threatening to step up such hacking if Washington bombs Damascus.

"It's likely that the Syrian Electronic Army does something in response, perhaps with some assistance from Iranian-related groups," said former White House cybersecurity and counter terror advisor Richard Clarke.

Little is known about the hackers behind the Syrian Electronic Army, and there is no evidence that the group is capable of destructive attacks on critical infrastructure.

However, former U.S. National Security Agency director Michael Hayden told Reuters that the SEA "sounds like an Iranian proxy," and it could have much greater ability than it has displayed.

Thus far, the SEA's most disruptive act was in April when it broke into the Twitter account of the Associated Press and sent fictional tweets about explosions at the White House. The false messages sent the stock market into a downward spiral that, for a short time, erased more than $100 billion in value.

In an email to Reuters on Wednesday, the SEA said if the U.S. military moves against Syria "our targets will be different."

"Everything will be possible if the U.S. begins hostile military actions against Syria," the group said in the note.

President Barack Obama vowed on Wednesday that the Syrian government would face "international consequences" for last week's deadly chemical attack in Syria, but he made clear that any military action would be limited.

Asked about the threat of cyber retaliation, U.S. Department of Homeland Security spokesman Peter Boogaard said the government "is closely following the situation and actively collaborates and shares information with public and private sector partners every day."

A U.S. Department of Defense spokesman said he could not discuss specific threats, while another source at the Pentagon said no unusual activity had been detected by late on Wednesday.

IRAN SHARPENS ITS GAME

Cyber experts have said that Iran increased its cyber capabilities after the United States used the Stuxnet virus to attack Tehran's nuclear program.

U.S. intelligence officials have blamed hackers sponsored by Iran for a series of so-called distributed-denial-of-service attacks against many U.S. banking sites. In DDoS attacks, thousands of computers try to contact a target website at the same time, overwhelming it and rendering it inaccessible.

In three waves of attacks since last September, consumers have reported inability to conduct online transactions at more than a dozen banks, including Wells Fargo & Co, Citigroup Inc, JPMorgan Chase & Co and Bank of America Corp. Banks have spent millions of dollars to fend off the hackers and restore service.

Researchers have said that Iran has also infiltrated Western oil companies, and it could try to destroy data, though that would increase the risk of retaliation by the United States.

Things in cyberspace would get more complicated if Russia, an ally of Iran and Syria, were to step in. Former Obama administration officials have said that Russia, which has supplied arms to Syria, has cyber capabilities nearly as powerful as the United States.

Even if the Russian government did not act directly, the country's private hackers rank with those in China in their ability and willingness to conduct "patriotic" attacks. Cyber experts have said that Russian hackers have struck at government and other sites in Estonia and Georgia.

The Syrian Electronic Army's servers are based in Russia, and that alliance could strengthen if matters in Syria became more dramatic, said Paul Ferguson of the Internet security company IID.

"We already have a bad geopolitical situation," Ferguson said. "This could play into the entire narrative I don't want to see happen."

It is unclear how much cyber damage Syria could or would want to inflict, said Dmitri Alperovitch, chief technology officer of security firm CrowdStrike.

"We haven't seen significant intrusion capabilities from them or destructive capabilities," he said.

Earlier this week, as the Obama administration pushed for more support for strikes on Syria, the New York Times, Twitter and the Huffington Post lost control of some of their websites. The SEA claimed responsibility for the attacks.

Security experts said electronic records showed that NYTimes.com, the only site with an hours-long outage, redirected visitors to a server controlled by the Syrian group.

The SEA had planned to post anti-war messages on the Times site but was overwhelmed by the traffic it received and its server crashed, the SEA said by email. Late on Wednesday, some users still could not access NYTimes.com.

The SEA managed to gain control of the New York Times web address by penetrating MelbourneIT, an Australian Internet service provider that sells and manages domain names.

It could have done much worse with such access, experts said, underscoring the vulnerability of major companies that use outside providers.

"Chief information officers need to realize that critical pieces of their online entities are controlled by vendors and that security policies should apply to them as well," said Amichai Shulman, chief technology officer at security firm Imperva.



  http://www.offthegridnews.com/2013/08/28/power-grid-down-drill-to-be-conducted-by-us-government/


Power grid vulnerabilities are finally garnering some attention by government officials.

An electrical grid joint drill simulation is being planned in the United States, Canada and Mexico. Thousands of utility workers, FBI agents, anti-terrorism experts, governmental agencies, and more than 150 private businesses are involved in the November power grid drill.

The downed power grid simulation will reportedly focus on both physical and cyber attacks. The antiquated electrical system in the United States has been one of the most neglected pieces of integral infrastructure.

The EMP Commission, created by Congress, released a report in 2008 calling for increased planning and testing, and a stockpiling of needed repair items.

The SHIELD Act, which is stalled in Congress, is the first serious piece of legislation in many years to attempt to address the vulnerabilities of the power grid in. As previously reported by Off The Grid News, a recent American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE) report gave the power grid a “D+” when grading various pieces of infrastructure and public services in the United States.

The disaster drill is being described as a crisis practice unlike anything the real power grid has ever experienced. The GridEX II drill Nov. 13-14 will focus primarily on how governments will react if the electrical grid fails and, for instance, the food supply chain collapses.

American utility companies are responsible for running approximately 5,800 power plants and about 450,000 high-voltage transmission lines, controlled by various devices which have been put into place over the past decades. Some of the utility companies which oversee the power grid reportedly use “antique computer protocols” which are “probably” safe from cyber hackers,” The New York Times reported.

The Times said experts call the power grid the nation’s “glass jaw.” Even the military gets 99 percent of its power the same way everyday citizens get it – from commercially run companies.

Harness the power of the sun when the power goes out…

“If an adversary lands a knockout blow, [experts] fear, it could black out vast areas of the continent for weeks; interrupt supplies of water, gasoline, diesel fuel and fresh food; shut down communications; and create disruptions of a scale that was only hinted at by Hurricane Sandy and the attacks of Sept. 11,” The Times said.

Former Federal Energy Regulatory Commission chairman Curt Hebert stated that if the nation fails at electricity, “we’re going to fail miserably” at everything else.

Hebert also noted that during prior power grid drills, the scenario assumed the system would be up and running again relatively quickly after an attack. This drill will assume it’s out much longer.

If the power grid fails, a lack of electricity and food delivery are only the first wave of troubles facing the American people. Police could face major problems with civil unrest. Of course, there also would not be any electric heating or cooling, which easily could lead to many deaths depending on the season.

A 2012 report by the National Academy of Science said terrorists could cripple the nation by damaging or destroying hard-to-replace components, some of which aren’t even made in the United States.

“Of particular concern are giant custom-built transformers that increase the voltage of electricity to levels suited for bulk transmission and then reduce voltage for distribution to customers,” The Times said in a summary of the report. “… Replacing them can take many months.”

Said Clark W. Gellings, a researcher at the Electric Power Research Institute, “I don’t think we pay quite enough attention to the technology fixes that would allow us to make the power system more resilient.”



LOL. so scary, what are they going to do?  Shutdown facebook and twitter?  How will America survive  ::)
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on August 30, 2013, 09:22:18 AM

PARIS (AP) — The United States found itself Friday with France as its only major partner in a potential strike against Syria


the French has our back, everything be fine  :P

Sounds like the French need some American freebies.

"Arret, Arret"
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: thebrink on August 30, 2013, 08:18:00 PM
utube knows nso doesnt wtf..  ???
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: arce1988 on August 30, 2013, 08:18:08 PM
France?
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 30, 2013, 08:18:53 PM
The idea of Syria as a regional oil transit hub is nothing new, thanks to its situation between Europe and major producing areas in the Persian Gulf and Caspian Sea. There is already one major transnational gas pipeline passing through Syria, the Arab Gas Pipeline (AGP) from Egypt to the Lebanese port of Tripoli.

In 2009, recognizing that the heady days of Syrian oil production in the 1980s were long gone and that the sector’s future lay in transit, Assad announced a ‘four seas strategy’ aimed at transforming the country into a regional hub for oil transportation between the Persian Gulf and the Black, Caspian and Mediterranean seas. He began taking steps to realize the country’s transit-center potential and bring the four seas strategy closer to reality.
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: Teutonic Knight on August 30, 2013, 10:29:18 PM

PARIS (AP) — The United States found itself Friday with France as its only major partner in a potential strike against Syria


the French has our back, everything be fine  :P

+ other EU countries  ;)
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: arce1988 on August 30, 2013, 11:15:00 PM
"Moses, Cyrus, Thesus, Nor Romulus, would have been able to make their peoples obey their new structures of authority, for long, had they been unarmed." (Machiavelli)
Title: Re: Why attack Syria?
Post by: James28 on August 30, 2013, 11:36:38 PM
superior military my ass the US hasn't won any war, it just destroyed countries but it didn't win shit. People with ak47s are winning against America's 'super military'.

This is just garbage, the whole world has been turned into turmoil because of American greed. And then we'll have ww3... great.. we're all screwed.

Blame it on the mozzlems but waaait who is the one starting all the wars, all the violence, all the invsaions, who is the biggest maker of weapons, biggest seller of weapons. There's little to be said. The US is on the side of evil and the whole world knows it except most US citizens themselves.

The US is crumbling slowly but surely that's what's for sure. 17 trillion dollars of debt and growing.. yeah, you're 'rich' and 'successful'. Bringing the whole world down.

Syrians have been fighting and have started winning against Assad. Why the sudden change of heart? Just an opportunity.

The US doesn't give a shit, only gives a shit about it's own political interests which are always against the local people and that's why the rest of the world hates the US. Double standards, greed, hypocricy.

Look at Egypt, a complete turn around the revolution destroyed, the same kind of filth military dictatorship reinstalled in the interests of the US and Israel.

The world knows what's up. US and Israel with their noses up, but it won't last.

Russia sucks too, and play its own dirty games.. in the end it's innoscent people who suffer and the whole world is going to suffer.

The one thing I'm concerned with more than anything else is asshole american troops using depleted uranium I don't care if they themselves get cancer, good for them, but the civillians will suffer. The chemical waste left behind has destroyed Kosovo/Serbia, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan and now will do the same in Syria.

Rise in cancers, birth defects, deformities, abnormalities, etc... it's all well documented... that's the saddest part of all.

I care more about the contents of lizard shit than I care about America, but I'd rather have them as the 800lbs gorilla than a Muslim hellhole being the number one super power.
Title: Re: Why attack Syria?
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on August 31, 2013, 12:00:45 AM
I care more about the contents of lizard shit than I care about America, but I'd rather have them as the 800lbs gorilla than a Muslim hellhole being the number one super power.

The problem is America will turn Syria into a Muslim hell hole.  Assad's regime was fairly progressive by Mid East standards.
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: cswol on August 31, 2013, 12:12:53 AM
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Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: Teutonic Knight on August 31, 2013, 12:42:13 AM
France?

Legion Etrenger  ;)
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: Kwon_2 on August 31, 2013, 02:13:46 AM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-2JzDSARUHMk/TzcE6kY2TDI/AAAAAAAAB9c/h9PSMhNKjDA/s1600/gunny+highway.jpg)
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: Andy Griffin on August 31, 2013, 02:49:00 AM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-2JzDSARUHMk/TzcE6kY2TDI/AAAAAAAAB9c/h9PSMhNKjDA/s1600/gunny+highway.jpg)

He's drank more beer, banged more quiff, and busted more balls than all you numb-nuts put together.
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: Wiggs on August 31, 2013, 03:25:55 AM


There will still be idiots that support Obama and congress to do this. No matter how you dumb it down.
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: thebrink on August 31, 2013, 08:01:22 AM
He's drank more beer, banged more quiff, and busted more balls than all you numb-nuts put together.

God loves you
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 31, 2013, 08:03:58 AM
Title: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: EL Mariachi on September 04, 2013, 10:01:33 PM
Russia has just sent their most advanced anti-ship missles to syria. what do you think would happen if images of sinking us navel vessels were to come flashincg across our television screens? When the us attacks syria, there is a very good chance that syria and iran will attack israel.

these 2 guys cant stand eachother look at the body language in this video, putin is a stud though





Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: Army of One on September 04, 2013, 10:06:40 PM
The Nuclear fallout could be good for gains, a few extra pecs may grow and I can triple my bench.
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: Kwon_2 on September 04, 2013, 10:08:12 PM
Russia has just sent their most advanced anti-ship missles to syria. what do you think would happen if images of sinking us navel vessels were to come flashincg across our television screens? When the us attacks syria, there is a very good chance that syria and iran will attack israel.

these 2 guys cant stand eachother look at the body language in this video, putin is a stud though



I am ready El mariachi.

I have done all my preparations.

I was more afraid that Getbig crashed than fearing WW 3 though.
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: 240 is Back on September 04, 2013, 10:08:17 PM
The Nuclear fallout could be good for gains, a few extra pecs may grow and I can triple my bench.

it's important that we alternate the ways we cower in the basement to assure our radioactive growth is symmetrical.
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: Army of One on September 04, 2013, 10:09:37 PM
it's important that we alternate the ways we cower in the basement to assure our radioactive growth is symmetrical.

Lol, one for the quotes thread
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: 240 is Back on September 04, 2013, 10:11:43 PM
Lol, one for the quotes thread

 ;D  Thank you sir.
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: EL Mariachi on September 04, 2013, 10:14:50 PM
The Russian Bear is stronger and more powerful than it has ever been before.  Sadly, most Americans don’t understand this.  They still think of Russia as an “ex-superpower” that was rendered almost irrelevant when the Cold War ended.  And yes, when the Cold War ended Russia was in rough shape.  I got the chance to go over there in the early nineties, and at the time Russia was an economic disaster zone.  Russian currency was so worthless that I joked that I could go exchange a 20 dollar bill and buy the Kremlin.  But since that time Russia has roared back to life.  Once Vladimir Putin became president, the Russian economy started to grow very rapidly.  Today, Russia is an economic powerhouse that is blessed with an abundance of natural resources.  Their debt to GDP ratio is extremely small, they actually run a trade surplus every year, and they have the second most powerful military on the entire planet.  Anyone that underestimates Russia at this point is making a huge mistake.  The Russian Bear is back, and today it is a more formidable adversary than it ever was at any point during the Cold War.
 Just check out the following statistics.  The following are 18 signs that Russia is rapidly catching up to the United States…
#1 Russia produces more oil than anyone else on the planet.  The United States is in third place.
#2 Russia is the number two oil exporter in the world.  The United States is forced to import more oil than anyone else in the world.
#3 Russia produces more natural gas than anyone else on the planet.  The United States is in second place.
#4 Today, Russia supplies 34 percent of Europe’s natural gas needs.
#5 The United States has a debt to GDP ratio of 101 percent.  Russia has a debt to GDP ratio of about 8 percent.
#6 The United States had a trade deficit of more than half a trillion dollars last year.  Russia consistently runs a large trade surplus.
#7 The United States has an unemployment rate of 7.4 percent.  Russia has an unemployment rate of 5.4 percent.
#8 Since Vladimir Putin first became president of Russia, the Russian economy has grown 30% in 2000 to 14% in 2008.
#9 According to Bloomberg, Russia has added 570 metric tons of gold to their reserves over the past decade.  In the United States, nobody seems to be quite sure how much gold the Federal Reserve actually has left.
#10 Moscow is the second most expensive city in the world.  Meanwhile, the United States actually has the unfriendliest city in the world (Newark, New Jersey).
#11 More billionaires live in Moscow than in any other city on the globe.
#12 The Moscow metro system completely outclasses the subway systems in Washington D.C. and New York City.
#13 The United States has the most powerful military on the planet, but Russia is in second place.
#14 Russia has introduced a new “near silent” nuclear submarine which is far more quiet than anything the U.S. has…

The Borey Class submarine, dubbed Vladimir Monomakh, has a next generation nuclear reactor, can dive deeper than 1,200 feet, and carries up to 20 nuclear intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBM).
 Each of these “Bulava” ICBM’s can carry ten detachable MIRV warheads, what they call “re-entry vehicles,” capable of delivering 150 kiloton yields per warhead
#15 While Barack Obama is neutering the U.S. strategic nuclear arsenal, Vladimir Putin is working hard to modernize Russian nuclear forces.
#16 Russian missile forces will hold more than 200 drills during the second half of 2013.
#17 Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin made headlines all over the world when he climbed into the cockpit of Russia’s new “fifth generation” fighter jet and announced that it was far superior to the F-22 Raptor.
#18 It is estimated that Russia has more spies inside the United States today than it did at any point during the Cold War.
 Unfortunately, whenever I write an article about Russia I find that most people simply do not get it.  They will make statements such as “the Cold War is over” or “Russia is our friend” which show a complete and total lack of understanding of the current geopolitical situation.
 Russia has been steadily building a stronger relationship with China, and collectively they represent the number one strategic threat to the United States.
 Someday this will become abundantly clear to the American people.  Hopefully it will not be too late by the time they realize it.






Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: Kwon_2 on September 04, 2013, 10:17:26 PM
It can't be worse than Getbig being down for a day.

Exactly
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: arce1988 on September 04, 2013, 10:19:55 PM
  It needs to end.
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: EL Mariachi on September 04, 2013, 10:23:52 PM
WW3 can only occur when not only U.S. relations worsen with Russia, but also with China (and also become less dependent on them or China fails to meet market demands like right now)and when Russia's and China's militaries equal that of the U.S., another event i believe unfortunately is not that far away. I believe once WW3 starts, Russia will not jump into the war until they fear genomic interests are in jeopardy and have given the U.S. all warnings to defuse the conflict. It will start with Russia providing more missiles to Syria to pass on to Hezbollah, then Russian troops lined up on Iran's borders, then hjoint cyber attack with Ukraine on several Nato, EU, and U.S. computers, then missile/drone strikes in the Middle-East with will rapidly increase, Armania Russia's proxy will bomb western targets in Georgia and Azerbaijan while Russia, Ukraine and Belarus invade the two countries, stop exporting oil to the EU, which leads to the conclusion of multiple tactical nukes in the Middle-East and strategic forces against the U.S. Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, and Kazakhstan will have no option but to fight along side Russia. Nato troops will strom the middle-east wile canada will sell oil and weapons to the EU and Nato. China will be fighting a pacific war by hacking into Taiwan's, Japan's, and South Korea's computers while lining up missiles on its east coast. The U.S. and Chinese navy will come into conflict Near the Phillipenes, The U.S. will place nuclear missiles in Taiwan. China launches airstrikes on Guam, and takes down U.S. sattellites. India will fight for the allies because they will try to disable Chinese computers to stop any further escalation, while Pakistan will send missiles and troops in Persian uniform after attacking U.S. military installations in their country.
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: Teutonic Knight on September 04, 2013, 11:48:06 PM
WW3 can only occur when not only U.S. relations worsen with Russia, but also with China (and also become less dependent on them or China fails to meet market demands like right now)and when Russia's and China's militaries equal that of the U.S., another event i believe unfortunately is not that far away. I believe once WW3 starts, Russia will not jump into the war until they fear genomic interests are in jeopardy and have given the U.S. all warnings to defuse the conflict. It will start with Russia providing more missiles to Syria to pass on to Hezbollah, then Russian troops lined up on Iran's borders, then hjoint cyber attack with Ukraine on several Nato, EU, and U.S. computers, then missile/drone strikes in the Middle-East with will rapidly increase, Armania Russia's proxy will bomb western targets in Georgia and Azerbaijan while Russia, Ukraine and Belarus invade the two countries, stop exporting oil to the EU, which leads to the conclusion of multiple tactical nukes in the Middle-East and strategic forces against the U.S. Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, and Kazakhstan will have no option but to fight along side Russia. Nato troops will strom the middle-east wile canada will sell oil and weapons to the EU and Nato. China will be fighting a pacific war by hacking into Taiwan's, Japan's, and South Korea's computers while lining up missiles on its east coast. The U.S. and Chinese navy will come into conflict Near the Phillipenes, The U.S. will place nuclear missiles in Taiwan. China launches airstrikes on Guam, and takes down U.S. sattellites. India will fight for the allies because they will try to disable Chinese computers to stop any further escalation, while Pakistan will send missiles and troops in Persian uniform after attacking U.S. military installations in their country.

-Do you speak/read Russian 100% , if don't you would never understand Russians ideology/thinking  ;)
-Ukrainians Nyet loved Russians  ;)
-"several Nato", only 1 NATO  ;)
-Canada is a Nato member , Canadians "will sell weapons to EU & Nato  :D
-Compere Nato members list & EU member countries
-O, no Australia at all in your Pacific war prediction  ???
-Just 1 or more Russian ships in Mediterranean means nothing,Israel can close Sues canal,Spain Gibraltar,Turks/Greeks Bospor  ;D
-Dark skin Pakis in white Persians uniforms  ::)

-Good luck in WW3  :)
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: Roger Bacon on September 04, 2013, 11:53:25 PM
-Do you speak/read Russian 100% , if don't you would never understand Russians ideology/thinking  ;)
-Ukrainians Nyet loved Russians  ;)
-"several Nato", only 1 NATO  ;)
-Canada is a Nato member , Canadians "will sell weapons to EU & Nato  :D
-Compere Nato members list & EU member countries
-O, no Australia at all in your Pacific war prediction  ???
-Just 1 or more Russian ships in Mediterranean means nothing,Israel can close Sues canal,Spain Gibraltar,Turks/Greeks Bospor  ;D
-Dark skin Pakis in white Persians uniforms  ::)

-Good luck in WW3  :)


Well... You certainly are an annoying windbag...
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: Teutonic Knight on September 05, 2013, 12:39:32 AM
Russia has just sent their most advanced anti-ship missles to syria. what do you think would happen if images of sinking us navel vessels were to come flashincg across our television screens?


Yeah right,  ;D ;D ;D Putin would never ever give his "the best" to arabs
& how Syrians would & with what locate/detect/target Nato's ships  :D
or rocket stations in Turkey (Israel).

Ps.Russian (supposed) ship can enter Mediterranean only with Nato countries permission  ;)
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: RUDE BUOY on September 05, 2013, 01:13:27 AM
the best Jerry the best
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: RUDE BUOY on September 05, 2013, 01:18:17 AM
 ::)
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: MAXX on September 05, 2013, 01:31:00 AM
WW3 can only occur when not only U.S. relations worsen with Russia, but also with China (and also become less dependent on them or China fails to meet market demands like right now)and when Russia's and China's militaries equal that of the U.S., another event i believe unfortunately is not that far away. I believe once WW3 starts, Russia will not jump into the war until they fear genomic interests are in jeopardy and have given the U.S. all warnings to defuse the conflict. It will start with Russia providing more missiles to Syria to pass on to Hezbollah, then Russian troops lined up on Iran's borders, then hjoint cyber attack with Ukraine on several Nato, EU, and U.S. computers, then missile/drone strikes in the Middle-East with will rapidly increase, Armania Russia's proxy will bomb western targets in Georgia and Azerbaijan while Russia, Ukraine and Belarus invade the two countries, stop exporting oil to the EU, which leads to the conclusion of multiple tactical nukes in the Middle-East and strategic forces against the U.S. Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, and Kazakhstan will have no option but to fight along side Russia. Nato troops will strom the middle-east wile canada will sell oil and weapons to the EU and Nato. China will be fighting a pacific war by hacking into Taiwan's, Japan's, and South Korea's computers while lining up missiles on its east coast. The U.S. and Chinese navy will come into conflict Near the Phillipenes, The U.S. will place nuclear missiles in Taiwan. China launches airstrikes on Guam, and takes down U.S. sattellites. India will fight for the allies because they will try to disable Chinese computers to stop any further escalation, while Pakistan will send missiles and troops in Persian uniform after attacking U.S. military installations in their country.

Russias fleet and airforce is outdated, smaller and nothing compared to the american. The only reason America won't fuck with them is nuclear arms.
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: missile on September 05, 2013, 01:32:49 AM
HA HA Dumb african Obama will cause big problems and many many AMERICANS DEAD.
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: nzmusclemonster on September 05, 2013, 01:40:22 AM
Someone needs to raise the white towel

Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: Teutonic Knight on September 05, 2013, 01:59:26 AM
Someone needs to raise the white towel



No Nukes in Aotearoa  :D except for the Bledisloe Cup  :( :( :(
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: MAXX on September 05, 2013, 02:02:41 AM
well thank Obama if your cities gets leveled with the ground
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: disco_stu on September 05, 2013, 02:06:40 AM
Russias fleet and airforce is outdated, smaller and nothing compared to the american. The only reason America won't fuck with them is nuclear arms.

oh you couldnt be more wrong.

the airforce is superior. the fleet is full of nuclear submarines... in 2013 u dont need aircraft carriers.. in fact u dont need anything more than nuclear powered submarines.
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: nzmusclemonster on September 05, 2013, 02:08:46 AM
No Nukes in Aotearoa  :D except for the Bledisloe Cup  :( :( :(

and world cup, rugby championship, etc etc etc
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: Teutonic Knight on September 05, 2013, 02:16:48 AM
and world cup, rugby championship, etc etc etc

 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
will watch tonight Mana Mamau & Hunting Aotearoa  :D
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: MAXX on September 05, 2013, 02:31:57 AM
oh you couldnt be more wrong.

the airforce is superior. the fleet is full of nuclear submarines... in 2013 u dont need aircraft carriers.. in fact u dont need anything more than nuclear powered submarines.
Stop talking about something you have no clue about idiot... It's way smaller and more outdated and has less quality control than the american. + their fighter pilots gets less air time training.

Americas air force has over 5000 Aircrafts in service and it's superior in every aspect. The russians is in the hundreds.

Russia just doesn't have the funding America has. Far from it.

Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: Archer77 on September 05, 2013, 02:35:16 AM
A world war might be good for us.  Thin out the douches in this country a little. 
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: Mr Nobody on September 05, 2013, 02:40:50 AM
Just a fight over oil, if they had no oil neither the USA or Russia would give a damn.
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: Rami on September 05, 2013, 02:48:13 AM
  ::) Get over it.

You will only become more despondent and frantic as America's superiority increases and global stability improves over the next several years and decades.

NATO will have it no other way.

(http://timemilitary.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/screen-shot-2012-09-22-at-3-23-35-pm2.png)

Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: Wiggs on September 05, 2013, 04:24:03 AM
The Nuclear fallout could be good for gains, a few extra pecs may grow and I can triple my bench.

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: Wiggs on September 05, 2013, 04:25:16 AM
it's important that we alternate the ways we cower in the basement to assure our radioactive growth is symmetrical.

lolololololololololololo lolololololol
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: hp31 on September 05, 2013, 04:28:16 AM
Someone needs to raise the white towel



Kai Greene is very experienced with white towels. Maybe he'll be willing to do it.
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: EL Mariachi on September 05, 2013, 09:57:13 AM
 ::) Get over it.

You will only become more despondent and frantic as America's superiority increases and global stability improves over the next several years and decades.

NATO will have it no other way.

(http://timemilitary.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/screen-shot-2012-09-22-at-3-23-35-pm2.png)



lol what a retarded diagraph, russia just as strong as saudi-arabia military wise? you ve been living in a cage. russia and china together have almost equal power as the us military wise and its increasing just as their economy.
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on September 05, 2013, 10:16:02 AM
Many of the elite think the earth would be much better off with 500,000,000 to 1 billion people...Maybe they're right...One other thing to remember if this is the start of WW3...Everyone gets to blame the black man for it.
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: EL Mariachi on September 05, 2013, 10:17:20 AM
-Do you speak/read Russian 100% , if don't you would never understand Russians ideology/thinking  ;)
-Ukrainians Nyet loved Russians  ;)
-"several Nato", only 1 NATO  ;)
-Canada is a Nato member , Canadians "will sell weapons to EU & Nato  :D
-Compere Nato members list & EU member countries
-O, no Australia at all in your Pacific war prediction  ???
-Just 1 or more Russian ships in Mediterranean means nothing,Israel can close Sues canal,Spain Gibraltar,Turks/Greeks Bospor  ;D
-Dark skin Pakis in white Persians uniforms  ::)

-Good luck in WW3  :)



israel cant close shit they ll be too busy fighting off iran
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: EL Mariachi on September 05, 2013, 10:18:06 AM
Many of the elite think the earth would be much better off with 500,000,000 to 1 billion people...Maybe they're right...One other thing to remember if this is the start of WW3...Everyone gets to blame the black man for it.

true
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: arce1988 on September 05, 2013, 01:05:51 PM
 Ted Turner wants one billion people at all times.
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: Teutonic Knight on September 05, 2013, 04:50:52 PM

israel cant close shit they ll be too busy fighting off iran

1 single man can shut down Suez canal traffic  ;)
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: Parker on September 05, 2013, 05:25:25 PM
lol what a retarded diagraph, russia just as strong as saudi-arabia military wise? you ve been living in a cage. russia and china together have almost equal power as the us military wise and its increasing just as their economy.
China has a newly formed coast guard. They have maybe one or two aircraft carriers, based on Russian designs. They revealed a stealth fighter, that hasn't flown yet....
They need all their men to keep their population in check.
Also, there is difference between marching and being battle tested/battle ready.
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: The Showstoppa on September 05, 2013, 06:06:04 PM
Russian navy vs US Navy?   Haha.  Have the ruskies figured out how to launch planes off one yet?
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: The Ugly on September 05, 2013, 06:08:17 PM
World War III would be the end of times. We will see dust ups here and there, but I doubt there will ever be a WWIII.
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: Marty Champions on September 05, 2013, 07:14:50 PM
Someone needs to raise the white towel


hahah little nz will be the last little neegul standing on his wang shaped  island after the super powers nuke eachother to death
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: anvil on September 05, 2013, 07:24:39 PM
.

Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: Ronnie Rep on September 05, 2013, 07:30:22 PM
Just a fight over oil, if they had no oil neither the USA or Russia would give a damn.
This!
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: The True Adonis on September 05, 2013, 07:51:08 PM
Just a fight over oil, if they had no oil neither the USA or Russia would give a damn.
???

Where is my Oil from the Iraq war?


Saying that these skirmishes are all about oil is ridiculous at this point.
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: Mr Nobody on September 05, 2013, 07:53:58 PM
???

Where is my Oil from the Iraq war?


Saying that these skirmishes are all about oil is ridiculous at this point.
It's already been used up bro.
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: The True Adonis on September 05, 2013, 07:55:20 PM
It already been used up bro.
???
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: EL Mariachi on September 05, 2013, 07:58:04 PM
???

europe now uses about 90% of iraq oil
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: The_Hammer on September 05, 2013, 07:59:09 PM
The US and China are close allies.

LOL at China letting anything happen to their biggest market (USA).

If you haven't realized this yet, the US pretty much runs the entire world.

When little shit holes like the Middle East don't fall into line you see what happens.
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: The True Adonis on September 05, 2013, 08:00:44 PM
europe now uses about 90% of iraq oil
??? Source?

(http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/a9/82/80/a982809602d59b98ccc74b0d7918e19a.jpg)
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: The True Adonis on September 05, 2013, 08:02:00 PM
europe now uses about 90% of iraq oil
???

(http://blogs.ft.com/energy-source/files/2009/12/iraq_production_jpm.gif)
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: The True Adonis on September 05, 2013, 08:02:59 PM
europe now uses about 90% of iraq oil
???

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Ug_cRs_GzCQ/UM8cJcN4IHI/AAAAAAAABKs/ArY0nu4vneo/s640/IEA+Iraq+Oil+Forecast.jpg)
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: The True Adonis on September 05, 2013, 08:06:04 PM
europe now uses about 90% of iraq oil
???

(http://www.eia.gov/countries/analysisbriefs/Iraq/images/crude_oil_exports.png)
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: Mr Nobody on September 05, 2013, 08:10:44 PM
???

(http://www.eia.gov/countries/analysisbriefs/Iraq/images/crude_oil_exports.png)
Interesting pie chart on oil usage I have never seen that kinda explains it all.
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: EL Mariachi on September 05, 2013, 08:11:17 PM
???

(http://www.eia.gov/countries/analysisbriefs/Iraq/images/crude_oil_exports.png)

hmm nice,  what i said is that oil usage in europe consists of 90% iraqi oil. thats the 20 % right there.
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: The True Adonis on September 05, 2013, 08:21:07 PM
hmm nice,  what i said is that oil usage in europe consists of 90% iraqi oil. thats the 20 % right there.
???

(http://www.palantirsolutions.com/getattachment/9ad5c144-f896-4be5-8c61-cc4bc5179989/sands.png)
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: EL Mariachi on September 05, 2013, 08:34:12 PM
???

(http://www.palantirsolutions.com/getattachment/9ad5c144-f896-4be5-8c61-cc4bc5179989/sands.png)

hmm nice work detective  :D i autually heard about the 90% from my brother, i thaught he was a reliable source  :D ill show him this diagram pic and tell him this guy named the true adonis owned you  8)
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: The Ugly on September 05, 2013, 08:46:02 PM
We'll never see another nuke explode in our lifetime.
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: Marty Champions on September 05, 2013, 08:57:50 PM
???

(http://blogs.ft.com/energy-source/files/2009/12/iraq_production_jpm.gif)
adonis you put to much trust in the shit you read

thats a jp morgan stat graph lol

heme-iron has gotten to you bro, no need to wiki heme-iron just look around you at all the failing people on heme-iron diets
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: EL Mariachi on September 05, 2013, 08:58:45 PM
El Mariachi taking a dramatic leap ahead of other competitors in the Stupidest Poster of 2013 contest in this thread.

ouch  :D  >:(
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: The True Adonis on September 05, 2013, 08:59:16 PM
adonis you put to much trust in the shit you read

thats a jp morgan stat graph lol

heme-iron has gotten to you bro, no need to wiki heme-iron just look around you at all the failing people on heme-iron diets
???
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: EL Mariachi on September 05, 2013, 08:59:44 PM
adonis you put to much trust in the shit you read

thats a jp morgan stat graph lol

heme-iron has gotten to you bro, no need to wiki heme-iron just look around you at all the failing people on heme-iron diets


johnny fail-con i asked you a fucking question, in another thread i made about you
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: The Ugly on September 05, 2013, 09:00:09 PM
adonis you put to much trust in the shit you read

thats a jp morgan stat graph lol

heme-iron has gotten to you bro, no need to wiki heme-iron just look around you at all the failing people on heme-iron diets

When did you get heme-iron in your brain? Enough with this shit already, Johnny.
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: Marty Champions on September 05, 2013, 09:00:18 PM
im not going to trust and statistics the government hands out lol these guys are white collar criminals
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: Marty Champions on September 05, 2013, 09:01:10 PM

johnny fail-con i asked you a fucking question, in another thread i made about you
i didnt see the thread or question faggit  :D
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: tommywishbone on September 05, 2013, 09:02:25 PM
The Nuclear fallout could be good for gains, a few extra pecs may grow and I can triple my bench.

 :D  I like it. My thyroid should kick into high gear- I'll be shredded.
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: Marty Champions on September 05, 2013, 09:03:28 PM
When did you get heme-iron in your brain? Enough with this shit already, Johnny.

nearly everyone is a meat eater and nearly everyone of these meat eaters has a health problem or two

i can really only speak for myself being a vegetarian, im the only vegetarian ive met in a very long time

Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: The Ugly on September 05, 2013, 09:07:06 PM
nearly everyone is a meat eater and nearly everyone of these meat eaters has a health problem or two

i can really only speak for myself being a vegetarian, im the only vegetarian ive met in a very long time



But you're a mess as a vegetarian. Don't you miss old Johnny?
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: Marty Champions on September 05, 2013, 09:08:18 PM
But you're a mess as a vegetarian. Don't you miss old Johnny?
maybe you havent seen my new video im in good shape now  Faggit
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: The Ugly on September 05, 2013, 09:13:15 PM
maybe you havent seen my new video im in good shape now  Faggit

I've only seen the boxing videos. You look like a manatee.
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: Mr Nobody on September 05, 2013, 09:14:07 PM
Falcon is on his way back from a drought season and in better shape if he returns to top form lights out.
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: Marty Champions on September 05, 2013, 09:19:06 PM
I've only seen the boxing videos. You look like a manatee.
well i posted the new one a few days ago it was from my photo bucket. all kelp increasing my thyroid, just gotta be careful with kelp that shit is like cocaine
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: Master Blaster on September 05, 2013, 09:24:57 PM
Jonny, I really hope you are on a comeback, and not a drug fueled Mystery Magic Tour, like so many peanut butter filled carpet rides of yesteryear.


WOOOOOSHHHHHH


woops, wrong account  ;)
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: orion on September 05, 2013, 09:40:08 PM
Radiation is good for maximum gains.
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: RUDE BUOY on September 05, 2013, 10:04:53 PM
Hulk of peace  ::)
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: Teutonic Knight on September 05, 2013, 11:47:47 PM
China has a newly formed coast guard. They have maybe one or two aircraft carriers, based on Russian designs. They revealed a stealth fighter, that hasn't flown yet....
They need all their men to keep their population in check.
Also, there is difference between marching and being battle tested/battle ready.

1 refurbished (old Russian) aircraft carrier,used just for take offs, nobody is landing on it  ;D
Title: Iran threatens brutal attacks on Americans, Obama family if US hits Syria
Post by: Roger Bacon on September 06, 2013, 12:26:56 AM
Iran threatens brutal attacks on Americans, Obama family if US hits Syria

 :o :o :o

“Hopefully Obama will be pigheaded enough to attack Syria, and then we will see the … loss of U.S. interests [through terrorist attacks],” he threatened. “In just 21 hours [after the attack on Syria], a family member of every U.S. minister [department secretary], U.S. ambassadors, U.S. military commanders around the world will be abducted. And then 18 hours later, videos of their amputation will be spread [around the world].”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/09/05/iran-threatens-brutal-attacks-on-americans-obama-family-if-us-hits-syria/#ixzz2e5yAPZhO
Title: Re: Iran threatens brutal attacks on Americans, Obama family if US hits Syria
Post by: Hugo Chavez on September 06, 2013, 12:38:35 AM
Iran threatens brutal attacks on Americans, Obama family if US hits Syria

 :o :o :o

“Hopefully Obama will be pigheaded enough to attack Syria, and then we will see the … loss of U.S. interests [through terrorist attacks],” he threatened. “In just 21 hours [after the attack on Syria], a family member of every U.S. minister [department secretary], U.S. ambassadors, U.S. military commanders around the world will be abducted. And then 18 hours later, videos of their amputation will be spread [around the world].”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/09/05/iran-threatens-brutal-attacks-on-americans-obama-family-if-us-hits-syria/#ixzz2e5yAPZhO

The guy who said this is retired.  He's a pundit now.  The same as the fools who served under past admins here but now get their paycheck saying what they're asked to and doing the media rounds.  Not quite the same thing as "Iran threatens" lol... This isn't an official message as far as I can tell.  Just this guy's opinion.
Title: Re: Iran threatens brutal attacks on Americans, Obama family if US hits Syria
Post by: 240_Iz_Nutz on September 06, 2013, 12:44:26 AM
Can we just give them the Obama family a keg, couple cartons of Camels and end it now.  ;D
Title: Re: Iran threatens brutal attacks on Americans, Obama family if US hits Syria
Post by: Teutonic Knight on September 06, 2013, 12:45:14 AM
Nothing better to see than those suppose to be "Anti American" Iranians (Persians) in denim,t-shirts,sneakers & baseball caps  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Iran threatens brutal attacks on Americans, Obama family if US hits Syria
Post by: 240_Iz_Nutz on September 06, 2013, 12:48:00 AM
Nothing better to see than those suppose to be "Anti American" Iranians (Persians) in denim,t-shirts,sneakers & baseball caps  ;D ;D

That just makes them allies with China though.
Title: Re: Iran threatens brutal attacks on Americans, Obama family if US hits Syria
Post by: Rami on September 06, 2013, 01:19:57 AM
No real harm can be established to America.

The only thing that can come out of this is varying degrees of 2nd and 3rd world destruction.

A degree that is solely determined by the level of rebellious behavior put up by themselves towards the US.



The scale of a potential war depends on what actions NATO see fit to maintain full military dominance and uphold international law.

Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: Marty Champions on September 06, 2013, 06:56:36 AM
Nelson Falcon has a rocket launcher in chapel hill aimed at iran so dont worry folks.
Title: WE NEED TO PROTEST WORLD WAR THREE SPRAY PAINT ROADS WITH MESSAGE
Post by: Marty Champions on September 06, 2013, 07:25:28 AM
THIS IS WHAT WE GOT TO DO FOLKS , SPRAY PAINT ONE OF THOSE GAY CROSS WALK SIGNS OR ROAD SIGN OR EVEN THE PAVEMENT WITH A MESSAGE PROTESTING THIS WAR

THIS IS LEO "NOTE" N "BOOM" FALCON

(http://www.clientcactus.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/askleonew1.png)

(http://leo.notenboom.org/images/leo.jpg)

(https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/833649272/leo_informal_headshot.jpg)

(http://askleowp.pugetsoundsoftwa.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2004/11/leovert.jpg)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3226/2916925775_c110c9a043_m.jpg)

(http://www.pcpitstop.com/images/newsletter/leo.gif)



this is prophecy folks, dont question me just do it NOW

the time is now folks all will be revealed through the messages of peace(https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/106112579/headonwhite.jpg)
Title: Re: WE NEED TO PROTEST WORLD WAR THREE SPRAY PAINT ROADS WITH MESSAGE
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on September 06, 2013, 07:27:33 AM
Do you have an example of a message to write?  "HELL NO WE WON'T GO!"...... something like that?
Title: Re: WE NEED TO PROTEST WORLD WAR THREE SPRAY PAINT ROADS WITH MESSAGE
Post by: Marty Champions on September 06, 2013, 07:33:03 AM
Do you have an example of a message to write?  "HELL NO WE WON'T GO!"...... something like that?

"NO WORLD WAR THREE FUCK OBAMA STUPID NEEGULS" something like that

if you do this it will pave the way for the next prophecy

sure it may sound almost meaningless and cute but it will work, we need to be consistent

the time is now

this message needs media coverage and urgency , if there are no protests we all go down the shitter

how do we get media coverage and people to listen what about backing from anonymous and his crew , we need gathering of peaceful protests to get media coverage
Title: Re: WE NEED TO PROTEST WORLD WAR THREE SPRAY PAINT ROADS WITH MESSAGE
Post by: Twaddle on September 06, 2013, 07:54:43 AM
How about:

"NEEGULS, UNITE!!!!"

And then spray paint a black seagull over the message?  Johnny, maybe you could get some stencils made, so all we have to do is throw down the stencil, and spray with black paint.  Something like this??? 

(http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/6130/v6sh.jpg)
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: Mr Nobody on September 06, 2013, 08:05:26 AM
Nelson Falcon has a rocket launcher in chapel hill aimed at iran so dont worry folks.

Nelson went off into space.

Title: arabs paying us for taking out Syria
Post by: macos on September 06, 2013, 09:00:03 AM
Damn. Whats next? Arabs buying out the Olympia and buying out the US of A.
 http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics-live/liveblog/the-houses-syria-hearing-live-updates/?id=e68f139f-e012-476c-876e-2467ba30e5e3  (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics-live/liveblog/the-houses-syria-hearing-live-updates/?id=e68f139f-e012-476c-876e-2467ba30e5e3)
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: Tapeworm on September 06, 2013, 09:17:12 AM
???

Where is my Oil from the Iraq war?


Saying that these skirmishes are all about oil is ridiculous at this point.

Saying that your countrymen have been sent overseas to fight and die for anything but business interests is beyond ridiculous by now.
Title: Re: Get ready for world war 3 boys
Post by: thebrink on September 06, 2013, 10:05:34 AM
-Do you speak/read Russian 100% , if don't you would never understand Russians ideology/thinking  ;)
-Ukrainians Nyet loved Russians  ;)
-"several Nato", only 1 NATO  ;)
-Canada is a Nato member , Canadians "will sell weapons to EU & Nato  :D
-Compere Nato members list & EU member countries
-O, no Australia at all in your Pacific war prediction  ???
-Just 1 or more Russian ships in Mediterranean means nothing,Israel can close Sues canal,Spain Gibraltar,Turks/Greeks Bospor  ;D
-Dark skin Pakis in white Persians uniforms  ::)

-Good luck in WW3  :)


canada to send $45 million in aid  :D
Title: Re: arabs paying us for taking out Syria
Post by: thebrink on September 06, 2013, 10:16:31 AM
when you have the money they do, it only makes sense to hire the largest military force in the world to take out your enemies.
Title: Re: arabs paying us for taking out Syria
Post by: Pray_4_War on September 06, 2013, 11:33:36 AM
I'd rather us be mercenaries than the worlds police. 
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: anvil on September 06, 2013, 12:15:50 PM
So let me review this real quick...

1) Syria in civil war
2) we and our "allies" the Saudis support the rebels (subhuman trash)
3) we tell Assad not to use chemical weapons or we will become directly involved
4) rebels use chemical weapons supplied by the Saudis
5) we blame it on Assad
6) every country in the UN says 'not so fast'
7) we bomb Syria anyway (about to happen)


Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: Tapeworm on September 06, 2013, 12:19:09 PM
???
profit
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: anvil on September 06, 2013, 12:19:42 PM
Nothing to see here, simply a "humanitarian" bombing campaign by a Noble Peace Prize recipient. After all, how else could a Noble Peace Prize winner launch a bombing campaign?

Maybe he'll have 101% accuracy on killing only bad guys, like the drone strikes do.   ::)
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: Tapeworm on September 06, 2013, 12:24:03 PM
Nothing to see here, simply a "humanitarian" bombing campaign by a Noble Peace Prize recipient. After all, how else could a Noble Peace Prize winner launch a bombing campaign?

Maybe he'll have 101% accuracy on killing only bad guys, like the drone strikes do.   ::)

Oooooh I forgot about that.  Call the plumber.  Irony's backing up again.
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on September 06, 2013, 01:18:24 PM
Nothing to see here, simply a "humanitarian" bombing campaign by a Noble Peace Prize recipient. After all, how else could a Noble Peace Prize winner launch a bombing campaign?

Maybe he'll have 101% accuracy on killing only bad guys, like the drone strikes do.   ::)

Something very Manchurian about his behavior.  he seemed anti war for 6 years.  Then it almost seems that one day he picked up the phone and Dick Cheney was on the other end whispering the trigger word and all of a sudden Obama turns into this war monger begging congress for a war.  he is on every news channel pleading for war.  You can see the saliva building in his mouth as he craves death.
Title: Re: arabs paying us for taking out Syria
Post by: arce1988 on September 06, 2013, 01:26:40 PM

I'd rather us be mercenaries than the worlds police.

^

The USA is both
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: The True Adonis on September 06, 2013, 01:27:47 PM
Something very Manchurian about his behavior.  he seemed anti war for 6 years.  Then it almost seems that one day he picked up the phone and Dick Cheney was on the other end whispering the trigger word and all of a sudden Obama turns into this war monger begging congress for a war.  he is on every news channel pleading for war.  You can see the saliva building in his mouth as he craves death.
I think he has access to all of the classified intel of just how serious the Muslim menace is.  Obama is a realist when it comes down to it and is acting on the evidence and information that crosses his desk.
Title: Re: arabs paying us for taking out Syria
Post by: Kwon_2 on September 06, 2013, 01:29:13 PM
The US is whatever it wants to be

Just like the golden words of Bob Chick, it's only x if you want it to be
Title: Re: WE NEED TO PROTEST WORLD WAR THREE SPRAY PAINT ROADS WITH MESSAGE
Post by: Kwon_2 on September 06, 2013, 01:36:46 PM
(http://www.orthopediatrics.com/binary/org/ORTHOPEDIATRICS/images/page/child_knee_jumpers_causes04.jpg)

(http://www.eatbydate.com/wp-content/uploads/Vinegar.jpg)

(http://oi46.tinypic.com/xomq0j.jpg)
Title: Re: arabs paying us for taking out Syria
Post by: Parker on September 06, 2013, 01:44:10 PM
I'd rather us be mercenaries than the worlds police. 
Well, when you call yourself the "land of the free and home of the brave", it makes sound like a police commercial right?
When you fight for freedom and enjoy it here, it comes with the territory.
Title: Re: arabs paying us for taking out Syria
Post by: mr.turbo on September 06, 2013, 01:46:46 PM
getting paid to rid the world of evildoers and freedom haters

dreams do come true

Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on September 06, 2013, 01:56:35 PM
I think he has access to all of the classified intel of just how serious the Muslim menace is.  Obama is a realist when it comes down to it and is acting on the evidence and information that crosses his desk.

Is this the same intel Bush had in regards to WMDs in Iraq?  Same Intel that 9/11 was going to happen but was ignored?  Using Intel and gov. in same sentence is too funny.
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: The True Adonis on September 06, 2013, 01:57:47 PM
Is this the same intel Bush had in regards to WMDs in Iraq?  Same Intel that 9/11 was going to happen but was ignored?  Using Intel and gov. in same sentence is too funny.
Why would you assume all intel the government gets is bad?  ???
Title: Re: WE NEED TO PROTEST WORLD WAR THREE SPRAY PAINT ROADS WITH MESSAGE
Post by: Marty Champions on September 06, 2013, 01:57:56 PM
the prophecy must be

Title: Re: WE NEED TO PROTEST WORLD WAR THREE SPRAY PAINT ROADS WITH MESSAGE
Post by: Wiggs on September 06, 2013, 02:02:33 PM
It must be.
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: Parker on September 06, 2013, 02:10:24 PM
Nothing to see here, simply a "humanitarian" bombing campaign by a Noble Peace Prize recipient. After all, how else could a Noble Peace Prize winner launch a bombing campaign?

Maybe he'll have 101% accuracy on killing only bad guys, like the drone strikes do.   ::)
Peace by diplomacy, or peace by force? It's still peace, except one option leaves the country in pieces.
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 06, 2013, 02:12:04 PM
I think he has access to all of the classified intel of just how serious the Muslim menace is.  Obama is a realist when it comes down to it and is acting on the evidence and information that crosses his desk.

He never is at his desk - he is always partying and chooming.
Title: Re: WE NEED TO PROTEST WORLD WAR THREE SPRAY PAINT ROADS WITH MESSAGE
Post by: Teutonic Knight on September 06, 2013, 02:16:49 PM
It must be.

Ugandan, tell me where was yours father great grandpa born  ;D ???
Title: Re: arabs paying us for taking out Syria
Post by: Pray_4_War on September 06, 2013, 02:31:39 PM
Well, when you call yourself the "land of the free and home of the brave", it makes sound like a police commercial right?
When you fight for freedom and enjoy it here, it comes with the territory.

Just because we fought for our freedom here doesn't obligate us to travel the world and liberate everyone else.  we have our own problems right now.
Title: Re: arabs paying us for taking out Syria
Post by: Parker on September 06, 2013, 02:52:34 PM
Just because we fought for our freedom here doesn't obligate us to travel the world and liberate everyone else.  we have our own problems right now.
Don't forget WWI and WWII, Korea, Vietnam, etc
When you are the world's leader, people look to you...
This says something about the Pretenders Russia and China...if they want to be number one, then they have to take on the world's problems...as well examine their own.
But, they'd rather the world burn, than do anything.
Sure, we have our own problems, but that is the burden of being #1. Nobody said it was easy.
And yes, I think we should deal with our own problems, but it should be the populace and the corp that deal with it...the politicians can't do jack nor shit.
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: Mr Nobody on September 06, 2013, 02:53:26 PM
I have a pellet rifle maybe I can help.
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on September 06, 2013, 03:13:43 PM
I have a pellet rifle maybe I can help.

lol.  Those rebels are fucking brutal.  Saw a video where they executed 6 or 7 soldiers.  These are the people Obama wants to help.  LOL.
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: thebrink on September 06, 2013, 03:43:45 PM
???
profit


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics-live/liveblog/the-houses-syria-hearing-live-updates/?id=e68f139f-e012-476c-876e-2467ba30e5e3

Secretary of State John Kerry said at Wednesday’s hearing that Arab counties have offered to pay for the entirety of unseating President Bashar al-Assad if the United States took the lead militarily.

“With respect to Arab countries offering to bear costs and to assess, the answer is profoundly yes,” Kerry said. “They have. That offer is on the table.”

Asked by Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-Fla.) about how much those countries would contribute, Kerry said they have offered to pay for all of a full invasion.

“In fact, some of them have said that if the United States is prepared to go do the whole thing the way we’ve done it previously in other places, they’ll carry that cost,” Kerry said. “That’s how dedicated they are at this. That’s not in the cards, and nobody’s talking about it, but they’re talking in serious ways about getting this done."

Title: Re: arabs paying us for taking out Syria
Post by: _bruce_ on September 06, 2013, 03:47:48 PM
America and its people have been burnt out with endless conflicts.
A mix of resources, unbelievable potential and great people - all having been wasted for shit.
Title: Re: arabs paying us for taking out Syria
Post by: thebrink on September 06, 2013, 03:51:21 PM
Don't forget WWI and WWII, Korea, Vietnam, etc
When you are the world's leader, people look to you...
This says something about the Pretenders Russia and China...if they want to be number one, then they have to take on the world's problems...as well examine their own.
But, they'd rather the world burn, than do anything.
Sure, we have our own problems, but that is the burden of being #1. Nobody said it was easy.
And yes, I think we should deal with our own problems, but it should be the populace and the corp that deal with it...the politicians can't do jack nor shit.

sounds like your referencing football or something. this is war
Title: Re: WE NEED TO PROTEST WORLD WAR THREE SPRAY PAINT ROADS WITH MESSAGE
Post by: evandatp on September 06, 2013, 04:17:56 PM
Note the look of apprehension on the face of this corgi:
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3226/2916925775_c110c9a043_m.jpg)
Is WW3 or Leo more of a pain in the rear?
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: Mr Nobody on September 06, 2013, 04:48:35 PM
lol.  Those rebels are fucking brutal.  Saw a video where they executed 6 or 7 soldiers.  These are the people Obama wants to help.  LOL.
Just go blow them up done deal come back home.
Title: Re: WE NEED TO PROTEST WORLD WAR THREE SPRAY PAINT ROADS WITH MESSAGE
Post by: Marty Champions on September 06, 2013, 05:00:28 PM
if we dont protest
Title: Re: WE NEED TO PROTEST WORLD WAR THREE SPRAY PAINT ROADS WITH MESSAGE
Post by: Mr Nobody on September 06, 2013, 05:07:24 PM
if we dont protest
See the goal is we go in and take afro americans back to the USA. Drop the criminals and have sex with any nice hoes.
Title: Re: WE NEED TO PROTEST WORLD WAR THREE SPRAY PAINT ROADS WITH MESSAGE
Post by: Marty Champions on September 06, 2013, 05:09:52 PM
See the goal is we go in and take afro americans back to the USA. Drop the criminals and have sex with any nice hoes.

looking foward to gas prices
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: tommywishbone on September 06, 2013, 05:12:59 PM
Have we bombed, invaded and occupied that shit hole yet?  That place needs freedom and we're the motherfukers to give it to them.
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: Marty Champions on September 06, 2013, 05:24:05 PM
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: Pray_4_War on September 06, 2013, 05:25:45 PM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics-live/liveblog/the-houses-syria-hearing-live-updates/?id=e68f139f-e012-476c-876e-2467ba30e5e3

Secretary of State John Kerry said at Wednesday’s hearing that Arab counties have offered to pay for the entirety of unseating President Bashar al-Assad if the United States took the lead militarily.



So now we are going to spearhead regime change?  I thought we were just bombing them.
Title: Re: arabs paying us for taking out Syria
Post by: Parker on September 06, 2013, 05:46:17 PM
sounds like your referencing football or something. this is war
really...go back and read what I said.
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 06, 2013, 05:49:40 PM
The Pope taking on Imam Obama

http://swampland.time.com/2013/09/05/pope-tweets-against-syria-strike-writes-putin-plans-saturday-vigil

Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: crownshep on September 07, 2013, 04:58:02 AM
This guy speaking the truth to McCain,look how nervous he gets,and doesn`t answer a single question.

Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 07, 2013, 06:13:57 AM
Nothing to see here, simply a "humanitarian" bombing campaign by a Noble Peace Prize recipient. After all, how else could a Noble Peace Prize winner launch a bombing campaign?

Maybe he'll have 101% accuracy on killing only bad guys, like the drone strikes do.   ::)

Fantastic point
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: dr.chimps on September 07, 2013, 06:21:22 AM
This guy speaking the truth to McCain,look how nervous he gets,and doesn`t answer a single question.


Wow. A guy reading his screed to a now demented, on-line poker player. About as impressive as 3.14 cutting and pasting his latest outrage.  
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: Griffith on September 07, 2013, 07:49:10 AM
Have we bombed, invaded and occupied that shit hole yet?  That place needs freedom and we're the motherfukers to give it to them.

Under Islamist Jihadi's and a bunch of heavily-armed rebels and terrorists with access to loads of cash, a country and national army.

Should be fun!
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: Anabol on September 07, 2013, 07:55:53 AM
The real truth -
 it is not about human lifes, terrorism, 'freedom', 'democracy', whatever. It's just words they are hiding behind.
 Right now few financial clans are fighting for gaz, for money. Obama, Putin, Asad... name other's are just instruments in their business goals.
 This world is fucked up. Money and consuption are real evil of humanity. World will die in nucklear winter cause of this, someday.
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: 240 is Back on September 07, 2013, 08:31:31 AM
but at the same time, i can't argue when people say "it's not our problem". 

Cause literally, it's not. 

If the couple that lived next door... let's say, a big butch chick and her meth head commonlaw hubby... let's say they liked to fight.  One day, it's in the yard.  They're beating the heck out of each other.  You call the cops, but we all know they take an hour to arrive.  Suddenly, the wife is clubbing him.  He's all sorts of fcked up.  You're watching from your porch.  Do you get involved?  Well, it's not your problem . He's a meth head, she'll end up in jail for killing him.  Society is better, and you have no legal obligation to do anything.  It's the cops job, and they're not showing up yet.

Still, you get involved, don't you?  Maybe she kills him and you feel bad.  Maybe she kills him, puts body in trunk and disappears it, and now you have a murderer (one who knows you witnessed it) living right next door.  How long until this murdererous neighbor (not your problem) is suddenly sneaking in to stab you in your sleep? 

Shit, look at this completely preventable mess.  All because people didn't stop a minor problem when they could.



You're 100% right if you say not our problem, we're broke, let them kill each other, etc.  But it's one of those tough situations in this world...you have to kill/subdue/control a monster while it's small.  Let it kill other monsters and it consolidates power, commiting major atrocities along the way.
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: The True Adonis on September 07, 2013, 10:20:04 AM
This guy speaking the truth to McCain,look how nervous he gets,and doesn`t answer a single question.


::)
Just another delusional misinformed wingbat thinking he is privy to information that the rest of the "mainstream" is not.  McCain should not have to put up with such nonsense.
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: Mr.1derful on September 07, 2013, 01:04:58 PM
- U.S. Vietnam INVASION in the 60's based on a false flag attack = War CRIME.

U.S. use of WMD (agent orange and napalm) in Vietnam = War crimes.

U.S. Afghanistan INVASION in 2003 = War CRIME.

U.S. Iraq INVASION in 2003 = War CRIME.

U.S. use of Depleted Uranium in Iraq = War CRIME.

U.S. Invasion of Libya in 2011 = War CRIME.

And the beat goes on.....
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: Marty Champions on September 07, 2013, 04:15:50 PM
but at the same time, i can't argue when people say "it's not our problem". 

Cause literally, it's not. 

If the couple that lived next door... let's say, a big butch chick and her meth head commonlaw hubby... let's say they liked to fight.  One day, it's in the yard.  They're beating the heck out of each other.  You call the cops, but we all know they take an hour to arrive.  Suddenly, the wife is clubbing him.  He's all sorts of fcked up.  You're watching from your porch.  Do you get involved?  Well, it's not your problem . He's a meth head, she'll end up in jail for killing him.  Society is better, and you have no legal obligation to do anything.  It's the cops job, and they're not showing up yet.

Still, you get involved, don't you?  Maybe she kills him and you feel bad.  Maybe she kills him, puts body in trunk and disappears it, and now you have a murderer (one who knows you witnessed it) living right next door.  How long until this murdererous neighbor (not your problem) is suddenly sneaking in to stab you in your sleep? 

Shit, look at this completely preventable mess.  All because people didn't stop a minor problem when they could.



You're 100% right if you say not our problem, we're broke, let them kill each other, etc.  But it's one of those tough situations in this world...you have to kill/subdue/control a monster while it's small.  Let it kill other monsters and it consolidates power, commiting major atrocities along the way.
good point but we need oboma speaking about the evidence
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: Mr Nobody on September 07, 2013, 04:18:44 PM
good point but we need oboma speaking about the evidence
We got to shop faggotry out to third world countries.
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: TheGrinch on September 07, 2013, 04:54:57 PM
LOL @ freeing Syria from a dictator gassing his own people...


you do know that the Syrian people are protesting all over Syria for the US not to attack...


doesnt sound like they want help for anything so tell me again why we are even considering it?


Title: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: The True Adonis on September 07, 2013, 04:58:42 PM
Title: Re: (video) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: The True Adonis on September 07, 2013, 05:03:04 PM
Very hard to watch.
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: The True Adonis on September 07, 2013, 05:05:15 PM


Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: AbrahamG on September 07, 2013, 05:06:02 PM
I hate this whole situation.  I'm a card carrying liberal and oppose this intervention.  I just don't trust "our" intelligence.  Not dem or repub intelligence, American intelligence.  Were almost always wrong.  Why would Assad gas people in locations where his troops, loyalists and supporter are?  Doesn't make sense to me.  Politically speaking, I cannot stand for Republicans who politicize this and want due dilligence especially the ones who fell in line with Bush and would certainly be falling in line today if it were President Mormon instead of President Blackenstein.
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: Archer77 on September 07, 2013, 05:06:57 PM
Very unfortunate but taking out Assad won't change much.  Those who wish to replace him are just as savage.
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: The True Adonis on September 07, 2013, 05:07:32 PM
Very unfortunate but taking out Assad won't change much.  Those who wish to replace him are just as savage.
They should and will be taken out too with the expansion of targets.
Title: Re: (video) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: che on September 07, 2013, 05:07:50 PM
Very hard to watch.

Why ???  don't you hate children ?
Title: Re: (video) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: The True Adonis on September 07, 2013, 05:08:51 PM
Why ???  don't you hate children ?
I do not want any myself, but one thing I abhor with every cell in my body is suffering and to see children like this breaks my heart.
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: Archer77 on September 07, 2013, 05:10:00 PM
They should and will be taken out too with the expansion of targets.

Im just not optimistic such a feat is possible.
Title: Re: (video) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: Dokey111 on September 07, 2013, 05:10:06 PM
I do not want any myself, but one thing I abhor with every cell in my body is suffering and to see children like this breaks my heart.

because your parents didnt like you
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: The True Adonis on September 07, 2013, 05:10:29 PM
I hate this whole situation.  I'm a card carrying liberal and oppose this intervention.  I just don't trust "our" intelligence.  Not dem or repub intelligence, American intelligence.  Were almost always wrong.  Why would Assad gas people in locations where his troops, loyalists and supporter are?  Doesn't make sense to me.  Politically speaking, I cannot stand for Republicans who politicize this and want due dilligence especially the ones who fell in line with Bush and would certainly be falling in line today if it were President Mormon instead of President Blackenstein.
Whoever did this needs to be bombed.

Title: Re: (video) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: The True Adonis on September 07, 2013, 05:11:21 PM
because your parents didnt like you
Its a personal choice as it should be. 
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: dr.chimps on September 07, 2013, 05:11:39 PM
Wasn't he an opthamologist (sic) or something,before he was called home to take over the family business. The older brother, groomed for the throne, died in a car crash? Can't keep my dictators in a row. TA?  
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: Army of One on September 07, 2013, 05:12:07 PM
Horrible, horrible video but Im glad the networks are finally showing this stuff and letting people know what is really happening
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: The True Adonis on September 07, 2013, 05:13:03 PM
Wasn't he an opthamologist (sic) or something,before he was called home to take over the family business. The older brother, groomed for the throne, died in a car crash? Can't keep my dictators in a row. TA?  
This is correct.  They operate under Sharia Law and the Dictator in Charge has to be Muslim as a requirement to hold any position in "government".
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: The True Adonis on September 07, 2013, 05:14:27 PM
yeah, but who done the attacks.
I think its pretty obvious at this point.
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: dr.chimps on September 07, 2013, 05:15:15 PM
This is correct.  They operate under Sharia Law and the Dictator in Charge has to be Muslim as a requirement to hold any position in "government".
Yes, Family.   :-X
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: Pray_4_War on September 07, 2013, 05:19:53 PM
Obama isn't getting his way so he tugs on the heart strings.  Do it for the children!  Sound familiar?  It should.  He can't convince people using reason so he turns to the emotions.  How convenient that CNN gets the video and starts running it now.
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: dr.chimps on September 07, 2013, 05:21:43 PM
yea but what is happening?

whos done it?


asad?bc obama says so, without providing evidence?
why?sum it up in short sentence,the evidence,the proof that its been the assad regime
Agree. Problem is a talking-President, and a non-acting theater, threat-wise. Not a great situation to work with.
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: The True Adonis on September 07, 2013, 05:22:04 PM
Obama isn't getting his way so he tugs on the heart strings.  Do it for the children!  Sound familiar?  It should.  He can't convince people using reason so he turns to the emotions.  How convenient that CNN gets the video and starts running it now.
::)

Its not about Obama and its not "how convenient" there is a video.  This is the right thing to do.  Chemical attacks HAVE to be punished or else what is the point of having an International Ban on them?

Also, its time that Syria is weakened and that Iran gets the message.  
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: dr.chimps on September 07, 2013, 05:25:00 PM
::)

Its not about Obama and its not "how convenient" there is a video.  This is the right thing to do.  Chemical attacks HAVE to be punished or else what is the point of having an International Ban on them?

Also, its time that Syria is weakened and that Iran gets the message.  
*Stands up and claps* Nicely said, TA.
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: GraniteCityDon on September 07, 2013, 05:26:45 PM
Ordinarily i dont usually care when i watch death videos but that first child absolutely broke my heart. It set the tone for the remainder of the clip, which i didnt view past 3 minutes. Ive seen videos like this before in the army but im not hardened to it anymore having readjusted to life as a civilian a long time ago.

Theres always an excuse for war, and justifiably we should come together and stop these atrocities from happening. Unfortunately the world will never be rid of these actions and many more children and innocent people will die painfully and violently in the years to come.  :'(
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: thebrink on September 07, 2013, 05:28:13 PM
::)
Just another delusional misinformed wingbat thinking he is privy to information that the rest of the "mainstream" is not.  McCain should not have to put up with such nonsense.

Anderson Cooper is that you?  ::)
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: EL Mariachi on September 07, 2013, 05:29:46 PM
Adonis guess what, nobody is fooled by this propaganda anymore, you ll some getbiggers on your side yes, but the people in the world are fed up about the media lies. Its quite obvious the rebels used the chemical weapons, i know you are aware of this, ur not a retard, but its not nice of you spewing this nonsence to the deluded ones.







After being linked by the Drudge Report, Fox News covered an Infowars exclusive story featuring a Syrian rebel admitting to using chemical weapons in order to follow Osama Bin Laden’s mantra of killing women and children.

The Fox News story concerned the overwhelming amount of evidence that the Obama administration would be backing terrorists who have been responsible for atrocities if it went ahead with an attack on Syria.


Lawmakers who were early champions of a U.S. strike on Assad regime targets in Syria have stayed mum as video clips emerge appearing to show opposition soldiers both killing unarmed men and indicating they have possession of chemical weapons.

The latest, a video on InfoWars.com, purported to show a rebel militant in Syria claiming to have chemical weapons, and saying he’s willing to target women and children. The video, which FoxNews.com has not been able to independently authenticate, only adds to the confusion over which side has the moral high ground and the reasons for U.S. military action in Syria.

The Fox report also links to a separate video which shows rebel commanders discussing chemical weapons. “The message is if the West doesn’t act, we (the rebels) too will have no red lines, and will use chemical weapons,” according to an analysis by the Middle East Media Research Institute.






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Russia gave UN 100-page report in July blaming Syrian rebels for Aleppo sarin attack






BERLIN —  Russia says a deadly March sarin attack in an Aleppo suburb was carried out by Syrian rebels, not forces loyal to President Bashar Assad, and it has delivered a 100-page report laying out its evidence to the United Nations.

A statement posted on the Russian Foreign Ministry website late Wednesday said the report included detailed scientific analysis of samples that Russian technicians collected at the site of the alleged attack, Khan al Asal in northern Syria. The attack killed 26 people.

A U.N. spokesman, Farhan Haq, confirmed that Russia delivered the report in July.
      
The report itself was not released. But the statement drew a pointed comparison between what it said was the scientific detail of the report and the far shorter intelligence summaries that the United States, Britain and France have released to justify their assertion that the Syrian government launched chemical weapons against Damascus suburbs on Aug. 21. The longest of those summaries, by the French, ran nine pages. Each relies primarily on circumstantial evidence to make its case, and they disagree with one another on some details, including the number of people who died in the attack.

The Russian statement warned the United States and its allies not to conduct a military strike against Syria until the United Nations had completed a similarly detailed scientific study into the Aug. 21 attack. It charged that what it called the current “hysteria” about a possible military strike in the West was similar to the false claims and poor intelligence that preceded the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003.

Russia said its investigation of the March 19 incident was conducted under strict protocols established by the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, the international agency that governs adherence to treaties prohibiting the use of chemical weapons. It said samples that Russian technicians had collected had been sent to OPCW-certified laboratories in Russia.

“The Russian report is specific,” the ministry statement said. “It is a scientific and technical document.”

The Russian statement said Russian officials had broken the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons’ code of silence on such probes only because Western nations appear to be “preparing the ground for military action” in retaliation for the Aug. 21 incident.

A U.N. team spent four days late last month investigating the Aug. 21 incident. The samples it collected from the site and alleged victims of the attack are currently being examined at the chemical weapons organization’s labs in Europe. U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon has urged the United States to delay any strike until after the results of that investigation are known. But U.S. officials have dismissed the U.N. probe, saying it won’t tell them anything they don’t already know.

White House spokeswoman Caitlin Hayden said U.S. officials were unmoved by the Russian report and held the Assad government responsible for both the Khan al Asal attack in March and the Aug. 21 attack outside Damascus.

“We have studied the Russian report but have found no reason to change our assessment,” she said.

Independent chemical weapons experts contacted by McClatchy said they were not familiar with the report and had not read the Russian statement, which was posted as Secretary of State John Kerry was appearing before the House Foreign Affairs Committee to make the Obama administration’s case for a retaliatory strike on Syria as punishment for the August attack. But they were cautious about the details made public in the Russian statement.

Richard Guthrie, formerly project leader of the Chemical and Biological Warfare Project of the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute, said the Russian statement on the makeup of the sarin found at Khan al Asal, which the Russians indicated was not military grade, might reflect only that “there are a lot of different ways to make sarin.”

He added: “The messy mix described by the Russians might also be the result of an old sarin stock being used. Sarin degrades (the molecules break up) over time and this would explain a dirty mix.”

He also said there could be doubts about the Russian conclusion that the rockets that delivered the sarin in the March 19 incident were not likely to have come from Syrian military stocks because of their use of RDX, an explosive that is also known as hexogen and T4.

“Militaries don’t tend to use it because it’s too expensive,” Guthrie said. He added in a later email, however, that it’s not inconceivable that the Syrian military would use RDX “if the government side was developing a semi-improvised short-range rocket” and “if there happened to be a stock available.”

“While I would agree that it would be unlikely for a traditional, well-planned short-range rocket development program to use RDX in that role, it is not beyond the realms of possibility that, as the Syrian government did not seem to have an earlier short-range rocket program, it may have been developing rockets with some haste and so using materials that are at hand,” he wrote.

Jean Pascal Zanders, a leading expert on chemical weapons who until recently was a senior research fellow at the European Union’s Institute for Security Studies, questioned a Russian assertion that the sarin mix appeared to be a Western World War II vintage.

“The Western Allies were not aware of the nerve agents until after the occupation of Germany,” he wrote in an email. “The USA, for example, struggled with the sarin (despite having some of the German scientists) until the 1950s, when the CW program expanded considerably.”

The Russian Foreign Ministry posted the statement shortly after Russian President Vladimir Putin had asked a Russian interviewer what the American reaction would be if evidence showed that Syrian rebels, not the Assad regime, had been behind a chemical weapons attack.

The report dealt with an incident that occurred March 19 in Khan al Asal, outside Aleppo, in which 26 people died and 86 were sickened. It was that incident that the U.N. team now probing the Aug. 21 attack was originally assigned to investigate, and the Russian statement noted that the investigation had been sidetracked by the sudden focus on the later incident.

Haq, the U.N. spokesman, acknowledged that the most recent attack “has pushed the investigation of the Aleppo incident to the back burner for now.” But he said that “the inspectors will get back to it as soon as is possible.”

The statement’s summary of the report said that neither the munitions nor the poison gas in the Khan al Asal attack appeared to fit what is possessed by the Syrian government. The statement said Russian investigators studied the site, sent the materials they found to study to the Russian laboratories of the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, and followed agreed-upon United Nations investigation standards.

According to the statement, the report said the shell “was not regular Syrian army ammunition but was an artisan-type similar to unguided rocket projectiles produced in the north of Syria by the so-called gang ‘Bashair An-Nasr.’”

The Russian analysis found soil and shell samples contained a sarin gas “not synthesized in an industrial environment,” the statement said. The report said the chemical mix did not appear to be a modern version of the deadly agent but was closer to those “used by Western states for producing chemical weapons during World War II.”

The statement said the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons team had examined Syrian soldiers injured in the March attack and said that no reaction to the more recent alleged chemical account should be considered without also considering that the rebels, too, have used chemical weapons.

“It is obvious that any objective investigation of the incident on Aug. 21 in East Ghouta is impossible without considering the circumstances of the March attack,” the statement said. Ghouta is the area near Damascus where the Aug. 21 attack took place.

(Lesley Clark contributed to this report from St. Petersburg, Russia.)
 

    
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Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: O.Z. on September 07, 2013, 05:35:09 PM
I think its pretty obvious at this point.

I guess you never get bored of trolling
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: EL Mariachi on September 07, 2013, 05:37:35 PM
High-Level U.S. Intelligence Officers: Syrian Government Didn’t Launch Chemical Weapons


  

  

Numerous Intelligence Officials Question Administration’s Claims

Washington’s Blog
 September 7, 2013  

Preface: Without doubt, intelligence is being manipulated to justify war against Syria.  Here, here,here, here and here.

Without doubt, the Syrian rebels had access to chemical weapons … and have apparently used them in the recent past.

Associated Press reported last week:

An intercept of Syrian military officials discussing the strike was among low-level staff, with no direct evidence tying the attack back to an Assad insider or even a senior Syrian commander, the officials said.

So while Secretary of State John Kerry said Monday that links between the attack and the Assad government are “undeniable,” U.S. intelligence officials are not so certain that the suspected chemical attack was carried out on Assad’s orders, or even completely sure it was carried out by government forces, the officials said.

***

Another possibility that officials would hope to rule out: that stocks had fallen out of the government’s control and were deployed by rebels in a callous and calculated attempt to draw the West into the war.

Reuters notes today:

With the United States threatening to attack Syria, U.S. and allied intelligence services are still trying to work out who ordered the poison gas attack on rebel-held neighborhoods near Damascus.

No direct link to President Bashar al-Assad or his inner circle has been publicly demonstrated, and some U.S. sources say intelligence experts are not sure whether the Syrian leader knew of the attack before it was launched or was only informed about it afterward.

Indeed, numerous intelligence officers say that the rebels likely carried out the August 21st attack.

For example, the Daily Caller reports:

The Obama administration has selectively used intelligence to justify military strikes on Syria, former military officers with access to the original intelligence reports say, in a manner that goes far beyond what critics charged the Bush administration of doing in the run-up to the 2003 Iraq war.

According to these officers, who served in top positions in the United States, Britain, France, Israel, and Jordan, a Syrian military communication intercepted by Israel’s famed Unit 8200 electronic intelligence outfit has been doctored so that it leads a reader to just the opposite conclusion reached by the original report.

***

The doctored report was picked up on Israel’s Channel 2 TV  on Aug. 24, then by Focus magazine in Germany, the Times of Israel, and eventually by The Cable  in Washington, DC.

According to the doctored report, the chemical attack was carried out by the 155th Brigade of the 4th Armored Division of the Syrian Army, an elite unit commanded by Maher al-Assad, the president’s brother.

However, the original communication intercepted by Unit 8200 between a major in command of the rocket troops assigned to the 155th Brigade of the 4th Armored Division, and the general staff, shows just the opposite.

The general staff officer asked the major if he was responsible for the chemical weapons attack. From the tone of the conversation, it was clear that “the Syrian general staff were out of their minds with panic that an unauthorized strike had been launched by the 155th Brigade in express defiance of their instructions,” the former officers say.

According to the transcript of the original Unit 8200 report, the major “hotly denied firing any of his missiles” and invited the general staff to come and verify that all his weapons were present.

The report contains a note at the end that the major was interrogated by Syrian intelligence for three days, then returned to command of his unit. “All of his weapons were accounted for,” the report stated.

***

An Egyptian intelligence report describes a meeting in Turkey between military intelligence officials from Turkey and Qatar and Syrian rebels. One of the participants states, “there will be a game changing event on August 21st” that will “bring the U.S. into a bombing campaign” against the Syrian regime.

The chemical weapons strike on Moudhamiya, an area under rebel control, took place on August 21. “Egyptian military intelligence insists it was a combined Turkish/Qatar/rebel  false flag operation,” said a source familiar with the report.

[A "false flag" is a ploy for starting war which has been used by governments around the world for thousands of years.]

Agents provacateurs are as old as warfare itself. What better than a false flag attack, staged by al Qaeda and its al Nusra front allies in Syria, to drag the United States into a war?

And 12 very high-level former intelligence officials wrote the following memorandum to Obama today:

We regret to inform you that some of our former co-workers are telling us, categorically, that contrary to the claims of your administration, the most reliable intelligence shows that Bashar al-Assad was NOT responsible for the chemical incident that killed and injured Syrian civilians on August 21, and that British intelligence officials also know this. In writing this brief report, we choose to assume that you have not been fully informed because your advisers decided to afford you the opportunity for what is commonly known as “plausible denial.”

***

There is a growing body of evidence from numerous sources in the Middle East — mostly affiliated with the Syrian opposition and its supporters — providing a strong circumstantial case that the August 21 chemical incident was a pre-planned provocation by the Syrian opposition and its Saudi and Turkish supporters. The aim is reported to have been to create the kind of incident that would bring the United States into the war.

According to some reports, canisters containing chemical agent were brought into a suburb of Damascus, where they were then opened. Some people in the immediate vicinity died; others were injured.

We are unaware of any reliable evidence that a Syrian military rocket capable of carrying a chemical agent was fired into the area. In fact, we are aware of no reliable physical evidence to support the claim that this was a result of a strike by a Syrian military unit with expertise in chemical weapons.

In addition, we have learned that on August 13-14, 2013, Western-sponsored opposition forces in Turkey started advance preparations for a major, irregular military surge. Initial meetings between senior opposition military commanders and Qatari, Turkish and U.S. intelligence officials took place at the converted Turkish military garrison in Antakya, Hatay Province, now used as the command center and headquarters of the Free Syrian Army (FSA) and their foreign sponsors.

Senior opposition commanders who came from Istanbul pre-briefed the regional commanders on an imminent escalation in the fighting due to “a war-changing development,” which, in turn, would lead to a U.S.-led bombing of Syria.

At operations coordinating meetings at Antakya, attended by senior Turkish, Qatari and U.S. intelligence officials as well as senior commanders of the Syrian opposition, the Syrians were told that the bombing would start in a few days. Opposition leaders were ordered to prepare their forces quickly to exploit the U.S. bombing, march into Damascus, and remove the Bashar al-Assad government

The Qatari and Turkish intelligence officials assured the Syrian regional commanders that they would be provided with plenty of weapons for the coming offensive. And they were. A weapons distribution operation unprecedented in scope began in all opposition camps on August 21-23. The weapons were distributed from storehouses controlled by Qatari and Turkish intelligence under the tight supervision of U.S. intelligence officers.


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Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: Pray_4_War on September 07, 2013, 05:39:48 PM
::)

Its not about Obama and its not "how convenient" there is a video.  This is the right thing to do.  Chemical attacks HAVE to be punished or else what is the point of having an International Ban on them?

Also, its time that Syria is weakened and that Iran gets the message.  

It absolutely is about Obama and salvaging his credibility.  He realizes as do most people what a huge blow to his Presidency it would be if he doesn't get his way on this.  Also, the video coming out now is no accident.  Right now he doesn't have the votes and he doesn't have the support of the American people.  They are trying to use emotion to sway people his way, period.

Nobody, including Obama, gave a fuck about the Iraqi people.  Nobody cared that Sadaam gassed the Kurds.  He railed against Bush now he's doing the exact same thing.  He's even using some of the exact arguments that Bush used.   Disgusting hypocrisy.

How far are will willing to go in this?  What about Russia, China or Iran?  As we should have learned by the war in Iraq you shouldn't start conflicts if you aren't willing to fight to the last man.  Optional wars are not in the best interests of the American people.  We need to stop pretending to be the world police and start focusing on ourselves.  If we continue to weaken our military and our economy we aren't going to be any good to anyone.  
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: Pray_4_War on September 07, 2013, 05:40:54 PM
yeah but who to punish?

and how many colateral damage civilian death will there be from the "punishment"?

first they said 2 days attack, by now they say 6months.

They are also discussing "regime change".  Sound familiar?
Title: Re: (video) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: thebrink on September 07, 2013, 05:43:41 PM
Very hard to watch.

does a civilian like you have proof of who did this?
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: EL Mariachi on September 07, 2013, 05:44:59 PM
Sure sure adonis iran needs to be weakened, what about the us allay saudi-arabia? Its infected with muslim-radicals that will chop your head off if you say ur atheist, plus saudi arabia providing chemicals to the rebels in syria. The muslims are just being used in these wars, chinese are very smart people, they know they llo be next if this continues, these british/israel/us fashist states will be stopped, you can count on that.
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: Natural Man on September 07, 2013, 05:46:32 PM
The real truth -
 it is not about human lifes, terrorism, 'freedom', 'democracy', whatever. It's just words they are hiding behind.
 Right now few financial clans are fighting for gaz, for money. Obama, Putin, Asad... name other's are just instruments in their business goals.
 This world is fucked up. Money and consuption are real evil of humanity. World will die in nucklear winter cause of this, someday.
There s always someone somewhere far away, quietly taking care of his garden, tho.
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: EL Mariachi on September 07, 2013, 05:47:54 PM
There is no evidence whatsoever syria regime used chemical weapons, they are winning the damn civil war, what a good time to use chemicals  ::).
nobody is buying this shit anymore, 9 % americans are for the war.
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: The True Adonis on September 07, 2013, 05:48:42 PM
I guess you never get bored of trolling
Shut the fuck up.
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: thebrink on September 07, 2013, 05:52:46 PM
Sure sure adonis iran needs to be weakened, what about the us allay saudi-arabia? Its infected with muslim-radicals that will chop your head off if you say ur atheist, plus saudi arabia providing chemicals to the rebels in syria. The muslims are just being used in these wars, chinese are very smart people, they know they llo be next if this continues, these british/israel/us fashist states will be stopped, you can count on that.

I thought it was the Saudis were the ones paying for this invasion.. ??  ???
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: dr.chimps on September 07, 2013, 05:52:55 PM
There is no evidence whatsoever syria regime used chemical weapons, they are winning the damn civil war, what a good time to use chemicals  ::).
nobody is buying this shit anymore, 9 % americans are for the war.
Well, if we don't stand for this we don't stand for anything. Which I think is TA's point. Life is shitty. Let's make it a bit less shitty, is the point.
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: thebrink on September 07, 2013, 05:54:35 PM
LOL @ freeing Syria from a dictator gassing his own people...


you do know that the Syrian people are protesting all over Syria for the US not to attack...


doesnt sound like they want help for anything so tell me again why we are even considering it?




because only a few hundred people were killed by theses weapons (not the 1300+ that was claimed) and assad didn't do it.
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: EL Mariachi on September 07, 2013, 05:54:43 PM
Well, if we don't stand for this we don't stand for anything. Which I think is TA's point. Life is shitty. Let's make it a bit less shitty, is the point.

''the first responsibility of every citizen is to question authority'' benjamin franklin
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: thebrink on September 07, 2013, 05:56:34 PM
true adonis is truly a scary individual.
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: The Showstoppa on September 07, 2013, 05:57:29 PM
Well, if we don't stand for this we don't stand for anything. Which I think is TA's point. Life is shitty. Let's make it a bit less shitty, is the point.

Were you whistling the same tune for the invasion of Iraq? 8)
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: dr.chimps on September 07, 2013, 05:58:24 PM
''the first responsibility of every citizen is to question authority'' benjamin franklin
Sure. What a passive response. I'm totally older than you and I'm yelling we should do something/anything.   :-\
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: dr.chimps on September 07, 2013, 05:59:31 PM
Were you whistling the same tune for the invasion of Iraq? 8)
No. Good point. Problem was the US infiltration(s) for the last 50-years.  :-\
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: monstermunch on September 07, 2013, 06:00:48 PM
This is the right thing to do.  Chemical attacks HAVE to be punished or else what is the point of having an International Ban on them?

So is mass killing okay, as long as its done in a gentlemanly fashion?
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: inside you on September 07, 2013, 06:01:00 PM
So the Nobel Peace Prize winner did not stop any war and is starting a new one (most likely WW III)?  ;D Well done sir, you deserve the prize  :-X

Hopefully USA dictators and liars will get punched and KO this time...

Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: O.Z. on September 07, 2013, 06:02:02 PM
Shut the fuck up.
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: The True Adonis on September 07, 2013, 06:02:14 PM
So is mass killing okay, as long as its done in a gentlemanly fashion?
Its not, but with a Chemical Attack we have the authority to act and we should.
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: The True Adonis on September 07, 2013, 06:04:22 PM

Wrong.
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: EL Mariachi on September 07, 2013, 06:04:34 PM
Sure. What a passive response. I'm totally older than you and I'm yelling we should do something/anything.   :-\

do something about what? be specific
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: The Showstoppa on September 07, 2013, 06:05:11 PM
No. Good point. Problem was the US infiltration(s) for the last 50-years.  :-\

Just yanking your chain.  Funny that so many turds here with "give peace a chance" stickers from Iraq are silent on this topic.  For me I support any excuse to thin the muslim hordes.   ;D
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: EL Mariachi on September 07, 2013, 06:06:11 PM
Its not, but with a Chemical Attack we have the authority to act and we should.

 i agree, us should take out the rebels.
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: thebrink on September 07, 2013, 06:06:59 PM
yeah, do something about what? Is there undeniable evidence that has been disclosed on this yet ?
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: The Showstoppa on September 07, 2013, 06:07:33 PM
i agree, us should take out the rebels.

Nice thing is that collateral damage is ok too.
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: The True Adonis on September 07, 2013, 06:08:49 PM
Nice thing is that collateral damage is ok too.
Obama will not hesitate to Drone Al-Quaida over there which is also a good thing.
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: monstermunch on September 07, 2013, 06:10:25 PM
Its not, but with a Chemical Attack we have the authority to act and we should.

Why do you randomly capitalize certain words?

And since when did America care about authority, legality or international protocol haha. 
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: EL Mariachi on September 07, 2013, 06:12:00 PM
Just yanking your chain.  Funny that so many turds here with "give peace a chance" stickers from Iraq are silent on this topic.  For me I support any excuse to thin the muslim hordes.   ;D

you re beeing shallow and need to do more research, taking out assad will only create more muslim problems, thats actually the plan of ur governemnt, u need muslims to take out russia and china, russia is having lots of problems with muslims who are supported by us, us tried to unite the 20 million muslims in china but that didnt go well for them, the chinaman is smart.
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: The True Adonis on September 07, 2013, 06:15:28 PM
Why do you randomly capitalize certain words?

And since when did America care about authority, legality or international protocol haha. 
I think you should capitalize your name.
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: monstermunch on September 07, 2013, 06:18:43 PM
I think you should capitalize your name.

Terms of endearment aren't capitalized, although I'll send the Request into Ron. 
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: The Showstoppa on September 07, 2013, 06:20:01 PM
you re beeing shallow and need to do more research, taking out assad will only create more muslim problems, thats actually the plan of ur governemnt, u need muslims to take out russia and china, russia is having lots of problems with muslims who are supported by us, us tried to unite the 20 million muslims in china but that didnt go well for them, the chinaman is smart.

Fuck that. I will learn to speak Chinese or Russian gladly rather rhan cover women in tarps and consider studying the koran as "education". 
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: EL Mariachi on September 07, 2013, 06:22:57 PM
Fuck that. I will learn to speak Chinese or Russian gladly rather rhan cover women in tarps and consider studying the koran as "education". 


ofcourse, so would i.
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: mr.turbo on September 07, 2013, 06:50:39 PM
the spirit of christopher hitchens is strong in this thread
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: Thick Nick on September 07, 2013, 06:57:16 PM
We are on the wrong side. Assad gassed Muslims extremists. We should be applauding him not threatening to remove him. It is too bad more countries aren't doing what Egypt and now Syria are doing. What part of THEY ARE UNHUMAN ANIMALS don't you get yet? The world would evolve the second the last Muslim died... seriously like humanity could finally advance.


If there was an doubt we have an incompetent, Muslim sympathizer in the White house...
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: Twaddle on September 07, 2013, 07:01:29 PM
So is mass killing okay, as long as its done in a gentlemanly fashion?

Yes, bombing and shooting women and children is much more humane than chemical warfare.   :D
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: dr.chimps on September 07, 2013, 07:03:07 PM
Yes, bombing and shooting women and children is much more humane than chemical warfare.   :D
Karl Rove. Nice of you to join us.  :)
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: claymore on September 07, 2013, 07:07:19 PM
Very unfortunate but taking out Assad won't change much.  Those who wish to replace him are just as savage.

True...that's why would should NUKE that whole place !!!
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: dr.chimps on September 07, 2013, 07:11:17 PM
Thread title change. Acknowledged and accepted.    ;D
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: Twaddle on September 07, 2013, 07:22:11 PM
Karl Rove. Nice of you to join us.  :)

 ;D
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: Voice of Doom on September 07, 2013, 07:33:12 PM
Were any of them going to write Beethoven's 10th?
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: 3Dkiller on September 07, 2013, 07:34:37 PM
- U.S. Vietnam INVASION in the 60's based on a false flag attack = War CRIME.

U.S. use of WMD (agent orange and napalm) in Vietnam = War crimes.

U.S. Afghanistan INVASION in 2003 = War CRIME.

U.S. Iraq INVASION in 2003 = War CRIME.

U.S. use of Depleted Uranium in Iraq = War CRIME.

U.S. Invasion of Libya in 2011 = War CRIME.

And the beat goes on.....


+1
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: delta9mda on September 07, 2013, 07:47:12 PM
Horrible, horrible video but Im glad the networks are finally showing this stuff and letting people know what is really happening


people gassed yes it happened. assad did not gas his own people. you are getting played.
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: thebrink on September 07, 2013, 07:49:08 PM
Were any of them going to write Beethoven's 10th?

is that your idea of true success ?
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: The True Adonis on September 07, 2013, 07:52:18 PM


people gassed yes it happened. assad did not gas his own people. you are getting played.
::)
Yes because all information has to go through you first and you are one of the few who are in the know.  We are lucky to have you on this site to help us all "wake up" as the conspiracy theorists like to say.
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: mr.turbo on September 07, 2013, 07:54:45 PM
Were any of them going to write Beethoven's 10th?

” Frederick Hertz, German anthropologist, used these terms to describe him: “Negroid traits, dark skin, flat, thick nose.”

(http://open.salon.com/files/beethoven21254115959.jpg)

wiggs approved
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: Twaddle on September 07, 2013, 07:59:01 PM
” Frederick Hertz, German anthropologist, used these terms to describe him: “Negroid traits, dark skin, flat, thick nose.”

(http://open.salon.com/files/beethoven21254115959.jpg)

wiggs approved

That's not Basile.   :D

(http://acdn.500px.net/211405/2238cf24d6e99f31f1d5b6865eedcad830ffd881/1.jpg?3)
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: mr.turbo on September 07, 2013, 08:09:46 PM
That's not Basile.   :D

(http://open.salon.com/files/beethovenweb1254114366.jpg)

Just how does an individual with a Teutonic surname born in eighteenth-century Germany acquire the moniker “The Black Spaniard”? 

sorry wrong thread!
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on September 07, 2013, 08:23:21 PM
True Adonis, you are quite the disgusting liar.  I dare say you are fully aware that there is lots of evidence this was done by the Christian Killing, genocidal, Jihadist rebels.
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: tommywishbone on September 07, 2013, 08:43:21 PM
Dead Syrians.
Title: Re: arabs paying us for taking out Syria
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on September 07, 2013, 08:54:53 PM
sounds like your referencing football or something. this is war


Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: TheGrinch on September 07, 2013, 09:00:17 PM
US 'backed plan to launch chemical weapon attack on Syria, blame it on Assad govt': Report


http://in.news.yahoo.com/us-backed-plan-launch-chemical-weapon-attack-syria-045648224.html



please ignore

Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: arce1988 on September 07, 2013, 09:11:56 PM
  Like Bosnia bombing the markets, and then blaming Serbia, so a USA and NATO attack could destroy Yugoslavia.
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on September 07, 2013, 09:13:36 PM
US 'backed plan to launch chemical weapon attack on Syria, blame it on Assad govt': Report


http://in.news.yahoo.com/us-backed-plan-launch-chemical-weapon-attack-syria-045648224.html



please ignore




Interesting date on that story...
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: TheGrinch on September 07, 2013, 09:31:49 PM

Interesting date on that story...

BINGO!!  PLEASE PAY NO ATTENTION
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: thebrink on September 07, 2013, 09:58:52 PM
  Like Bosnia bombing the markets, and then blaming Serbia, so a USA and NATO attack could destroy Yugoslavia.

yes yes and yes.

deja vu
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: thebrink on September 07, 2013, 10:03:50 PM
::)
Yes because all information has to go through you first and you are one of the few who are in the know.  We are lucky to have you on this site to help us all "wake up" as the conspiracy theorists like to say.

lol classic brainwash

Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: delta9mda on September 07, 2013, 10:38:57 PM
::)
Yes because all information has to go through you first and you are one of the few who are in the know.  We are lucky to have you on this site to help us all "wake up" as the conspiracy theorists like to say.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist person. Ask your liberal self " why would Assad gas his own people just begging the USA to take him out"?
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: delta9mda on September 07, 2013, 10:41:12 PM
True Adonis, you are quite the disgusting liar.  I dare say you are fully aware that there is lots of evidence this was done by the Christian Killing, genocidal, Jihadist rebels.

Owned
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: missile on September 08, 2013, 01:05:05 AM
Rebels are having a great time!  Lots of raping Syrian women!  Killing and beheading non believers!  You can watch it on youtube!   I LOVE Obama!
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: missile on September 08, 2013, 01:08:22 AM
Burning the infidel churches HAHAHA  beheading the priests!  Even making the infidel kids behead their own family!  Beheading infidel babies too!  Fuckin COOL  The brothers are in control!

Ass-ad let all these infidels in.  Christians and Jews allowed :-(  Women in schools :-(    No Sharia at all :-(  those days are over soon!
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: Teutonic Knight on September 08, 2013, 01:37:13 AM
Burning the infidel churches HAHAHA  beheading the priests!  Even making the infidel kids behead their own family!  Beheading infidel babies too!  Fuckin COOL  The brothers are in control!

Ass-ad let all these infidels in.  Christians and Jews allowed :-(  Women in schools :-(    No Sharia at all :-(  those days are over soon!

Listen muslim idiot, west actually don't give a fuck about your mob," infidels" you a overrating that expresion & who cares who is bonking
who in the middle earth.
99 % of us don't care about religious bullshit, it's all just industrial bussines:producing/destroying,rebuilding,etc,.
Do you care for a 1000's dead's created by tsunami in southeast asia or plane crash in peru  ;)
Nobody give a fuck, got it  ;)
Title: Re: (video) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: jon cole on September 08, 2013, 01:41:49 AM
Very hard to watch.

be careful with the power of the emotion.

a mix of footage with some real corpse and some fake dead corpse and of course children to hit the spot.

picture doesn't prove who used the gaz.
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: Hugo Chavez on September 08, 2013, 02:08:47 AM
TA is just another lost fucking assclown searching for some identity. He was a Nazi, now he's on a Zionist kick trying to belong. Don't worry, in a few years he'll discover he has 5% Eskimo in him and he'll be telling us all how to hunt whales and build igloos... ::)
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on September 08, 2013, 02:10:21 AM
TA is just another lost fucking assclown searching for some identity. He was a Nazi, now he's on a Zionist kick trying to belong. Don't worry, in a few years he'll discover he has 5% Eskimo in him and he'll be telling us all how to hunt whales and build igloos... ::)

LOL
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: The True Adonis on September 08, 2013, 02:26:30 AM
TA is just another lost fucking assclown searching for some identity. He was a Nazi, now he's on a Zionist kick trying to belong. Don't worry, in a few years he'll discover he has 5% Eskimo in him and he'll be telling us all how to hunt whales and build igloos... ::)
::)
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: Hugo Chavez on September 08, 2013, 02:27:33 AM
::)
great reply lol... You can never beat the good ol' eye roll when you got nothing.
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: missile on September 08, 2013, 02:32:10 AM
Listen muslim idiot, west actually don't give a fuck about your mob," infidels" you a overrating that expresion & who cares who is bonking
who in the middle earth.
99 % of us don't care about religious bullshit, it's all just industrial bussines:producing/destroying,rebuilding,etc,.
Do you care for a 1000's dead's created by tsunami in southeast asia or plane crash in peru  ;)
Nobody give a fuck, got it  ;)

Listen cock head.  it's not who is "bonking who" christians and jews been in this area for thousands of years, that prick Ass-ad allow them to be.  Those times are over soon!  Fuck of Christains and Jews, you are now being raped and murdered HA HA and we have superpower USA behind us!  You are FINISHED!
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: Conker on September 08, 2013, 03:05:49 AM
::)

Its not about Obama and its not "how convenient" there is a video.  This is the right thing to do.  Chemical attacks HAVE to be punished or else what is the point of having an International Ban on them?

Also, its time that Syria is weakened and that Iran gets the message.  

There is also an international ban prohibiting the transferal of your own civilian population into occupied territories, Israel has countless UN condemnations for breaching this ban. What is the US going to do about this breach of international law? Oh yeh they will just continue to make Israel their biggest recipient of foreign aid...that will teach them to respect international law!

What a lot of b@ll@x, as if the US government has any concern about right or wrong.

Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: crownshep on September 08, 2013, 04:41:46 AM
From jan 30

http://in.news.yahoo.com/us-backed-plan-launch-chemical-weapon-attack-syria-045648224.html
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: agenda21nwo on September 08, 2013, 04:51:47 AM
Obamabots - True Adonis and 240 is back

do not read the rubbish these two write.  Good chance they are unemployed "work from home" government bots.
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: Kwon_2 on September 08, 2013, 04:53:44 AM
do not read the rubbish i write.  I'm an unemployed "work from home" black person.

You got it
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: Marty Champions on September 08, 2013, 06:21:48 AM
hahah pissing off iran , the russians, china= bad decisions of peace
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: Kwon_2 on September 08, 2013, 06:27:34 AM
TA is just another lost fucking assclown searching for some identity. He was a Nazi, now he's on a Zionist kick trying to belong. Don't worry, in a few years he'll discover he has 5% Eskimo in him and he'll be telling us all how to hunt whales and build igloos... ::)

 ::)
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on September 08, 2013, 06:30:42 AM
hahah pissing off iran , the russians, china= bad decisions of peace

America voted for change! 
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: freespirit on September 08, 2013, 06:43:59 AM
 ;)
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: Griffith on September 08, 2013, 07:25:26 AM
But using depleted uranium and white phosphorous in civilian areas is ok....
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: Kwon_2 on September 08, 2013, 08:02:02 AM
America Fuck Yeah! :D

HILARIOUS! (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=585034018205127)
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: shiftedShapes on September 08, 2013, 08:46:43 AM
They should and will be taken out too with the expansion of targets.

I know you're a rational guy so I assume that in coming to the conclusion that action against Syria is advisable that you have considered the opportunity costs of such an action, especially alternate uses of the money we would spend on invasion of this distant foreign land.  Accordingly, I ask that you explain how this mission would give more bang for the buck for this country than any other uses for our scarce funds.  None of the talking heads on TV are addressing this basic point of policy analysis, but I hold you to a higher standard.
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: SquidVicious on September 08, 2013, 08:50:35 AM
They'll show this video but will never show children suffering after a US bombing gone awry that hits a small village just as they never showed little Vietnamese kids with skin peeling off their bones after a napalm drop.

Media serves the master.
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: Tito24 on September 08, 2013, 08:55:03 AM
better to keep a modern assad in charge rather than some beards.
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on September 08, 2013, 09:11:55 AM
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on September 08, 2013, 11:54:59 AM





 How bad would you consider that? what do you think it should be done to countries that commit such crimes?
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: The Ugly on September 08, 2013, 12:24:59 PM
Burning the infidel churches HAHAHA  beheading the priests!  Even making the infidel kids behead their own family!  Beheading infidel babies too!  Fuckin COOL  The brothers are in control!

Ass-ad let all these infidels in.  Christians and Jews allowed :-(  Women in schools :-(    No Sharia at all :-(  those days are over soon!

Wow. That's a lotta hate right there. Might say inhuman.
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: Teutonic Knight on September 08, 2013, 02:29:23 PM
Listen cock head.  it's not who is "bonking who" christians and jews been in this area for thousands of years, that prick Ass-ad allow them to be.  Those times are over soon!  Fuck of Christains and Jews, you are now being raped and murdered HA HA and we have superpower USA behind us!  You are FINISHED!

Get real, West don't care what's happening in fuck up Arabs speaking world.West just want to sell military supply  ;)
Visit Berlin,Sydney,Tokyo,Monte Carlo,........
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: arce1988 on September 08, 2013, 02:30:57 PM
 :(
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: thebrink on September 08, 2013, 08:15:51 PM
Listen muslim idiot, west actually don't give a fuck about your mob," infidels" you a overrating that expresion & who cares who is bonking
who in the middle earth.
99 % of us don't care about religious bullshit, it's all just industrial bussines:producing/destroying,rebuilding,etc,.
Do you care for a 1000's dead's created by tsunami in southeast asia or plane crash in peru  ;)
Nobody give a fuck, got it  ;)

truth has spoke
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on September 08, 2013, 11:56:16 PM
Having a black Nobel Peace Prize winning sitting President possibly start WW3 has to be one of the wildest things the Rothschild's have ever pulled off...They put the black man in office, surround him with Hollywood actors and rock stars. Fill his pockets with gold. And then crash the whole fukcing system down around itself possibly killing billions of people all the while the survivors will all to blame it on the black man which will probably knock the black race into the stone age...What a trip...
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: The Ugly on September 09, 2013, 12:01:44 AM
Having a black Nobel Peace Prize winning sitting President possibly start WW3 has to be one of the wildest things the Rothschild's have ever pulled off...They put the black man in office, surround him with Hollywood actors and rock stars. Fill his pockets with gold. And then crash the whole fukcing system down around itself possibly killing billions of people all the while the survivors will all to blame it on the black man which will probably knock the black race into the stone age...What a trip...

Yes, an outlandish plot, don't you think? Those incorrigible Rothchilds.
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on September 09, 2013, 03:44:00 AM



 How bad would you consider that? what do you think it should be done to countries that commit such crimes?

Are you suggesting America should be nuked?
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: Tapeworm on September 09, 2013, 06:42:12 AM
The UN.  Huh.  What is it good for?  Absolutely nuthin.  

So just ignore its members and do whatever you want.
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 09, 2013, 06:48:11 AM
Let me get this straight. The US should pick sides? One side is an authoritative brutal dictator. The other side is radical extremist Muslims who want to take over who are right at this moment killing and raping Christians in Syria.

This reminds me of Egypt. We backed the Muslim Brotherhood who then when to Christian sections and burned down churches. They then went on a killing and raping spree of Christians.

In a civil war where there is no good guy we should stay the hell out of there. It's not like Syria is going to turn into a civil Democracy or a Republic because of US intervention.
Title: Assad owning Obama and Washington.
Post by: King Shizzo on September 09, 2013, 06:51:36 AM
What if Assad is telling the truth? What if it was the terrorists (not Assad's men) who gassed the people? Does Obama have a hidden agenda? Is he just a moron? Here is what Assad said recently.



Asked if chemical warfare could be one repercussion from an American intervention in Syria, Assad told anchorman Charlie Rose: "That depends if the rebels or the terrorists in this region or any other group have it. It could happen. "

"You are going to pay the price if you are not wise with dealing with terrorists," he said.

Assad also said the current incident brings to mind memories of the arguments for intervention that President George W. Bush's administration made over a decade ago in connection with President Saddam Hussein's Iraq.

Assad said Kerry's statements reminded him about "the big lie" that Secretary of State Colin Powell said to the United Nations about Saddam's weapons of mass destruction.

Assad also said the majority of Americans "don't want a war anywhere, not only against Syria." He said the first question the U.S. lawmakers should ask themselves is , "What do wars give America?" He said Washington's credibility is "at an all-time low."
Title: Re: Assad owning Obama and Washington.
Post by: King Shizzo on September 09, 2013, 06:52:57 AM
"You should expect everything," Assad said in an interview with CBS taped in Damascus. "Not necessarily from the government. It's not only the government ... in this region. You have different parties, you have different factions, you have different ideology."

Asked if he was making a threat of a direct military response to any such attack, Assad was vague, saying at one point, "I am not fortune teller to tell you what's going to happen."

Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: NelsonMuntz on September 09, 2013, 06:54:19 AM
Title: Re: Assad owning Obama and Washington.
Post by: King Shizzo on September 09, 2013, 06:55:31 AM
I think Assad might be one of the good guys. He is trying to rid his country of terrorist factions. He has every right to do so. Obama needs to stay the fuck out of it.
Title: Re: (video warning) Dead Children, The Case for destroying the Theocracy of Syria
Post by: phreak on September 09, 2013, 06:56:59 AM
Let me get this straight. The US should pick sides? One side is an authoritative brutal dictator. The other side is radical extremist Muslims who want to take over who are right at this moment killing and raping Christians in Syria.

This reminds me of Egypt. We backed the Muslim Brotherhood who then when to Christian sections and burned down churches. They then went on a killing and raping spree of Christians.

In a civil war where there is no good guy we should stay the hell out of there. It's not like Syria is going to turn into a civil Democracy or a Republic because of US intervention.

but... but... Israel!

 ;)
Title: Re: Assad owning Obama and Washington.
Post by: Wiggs on September 09, 2013, 07:03:47 AM
You're slow. We've being saying this from the beginning. he was winning the war. Everything was going his way. He has absolutely nothing positive to gain from gassing his people. This is the U.S. doing as a way to invade. In other words, false flag. I'm ten steps ahead of you.
Title: Re: Assad owning Obama and Washington.
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on September 09, 2013, 07:06:37 AM
You're slow. We've being saying this from the beginning. he was winning the war. Everything was going his way. He has absolutely nothing positive to gain from gassing his people. This is the U.S. doing as a way to invade. In other words, false flag. I'm to steps ahead of you.
pretty much this
Title: Re: Assad owning Obama and Washington.
Post by: King Shizzo on September 09, 2013, 07:13:44 AM
I was with you guys the whole time too. I was just showing you guys what Assad said recently. He is basically telling Obama that he has no idea what will happen if we invade Syria.

There are too many factions (not related to Assad) the will use any means necessary. Not to mention Assad's own army who would have every right to defend themselves.

Not to mention Putin has already said Fuck off to America. Russia makes hundreds of millions of dollars a year by supplying Syria with weapons. Putin will not bite the hand that helps feed him.
Title: Re: Assad owning Obama and Washington.
Post by: Wiggs on September 09, 2013, 07:15:35 AM
I was with you guys the whole time too. I was just showing you guys what Assad said recently. He is basically telling Obama that he has no idea what will happen if we invade Syria.

There are too many factions (not related to Assad) the will use any means necessary. Not to mention Assad's own army who would have every right to defend themselves.

Not to mention Putin has already said Fuck off to America. Russia makes hundreds of millions of dollars a year by supplying Syria with weapons. Putin will not bite the hand that helps feed him.

Oh my bad bro. We're just watching everything play out like a movie. They already know what their doing. This is some evil shit.
Title: Re: Assad owning Obama and Washington.
Post by: King Shizzo on September 09, 2013, 07:21:56 AM
Oh my bad bro. We're just watching everything play out like a movie. They already know what their doing. This is some evil shit.
Obama will seal America's fate if he invades Syria. I can feel it. The U.N. is starting to question America more then ever. We have not won a war since world WWII. All we have done since Vietnam, is get Americans and civilians killed. You can't have feelings in war. You can't have ethics/codes in war.

If we are not going to nuke someone into oblivion, then there is no point in going into any war. We should only go to war to defend ourselves in case of invasion.
Title: Re: Assad owning Obama and Washington.
Post by: Wiggs on September 09, 2013, 07:26:27 AM
Obama will seal America's fate if he invades Syria. I can feel it. The U.N. is starting to question America more then ever. We have not won a war since world WWII. All we have done since Vietnam, is get Americans and civilians killed. You can't have feelings in war. You can't have ethics/codes in war.

If we are not going to nuke someone into oblivion, then there is no point in going into any war. We should only go to war to defend ourselves in case of invasion.

I think majority of Americans would agree with you. Too bad these assholes don't listen to a thing the people say anymore.
Title: Re: Assad owning Obama and Washington.
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on September 09, 2013, 07:29:37 AM
I think majority of Americans would agree with you. Too bad these assholes don't listen to a thing the people say anymore.

the Manchurian chip in Obama went off.  He is a war monger all of a sudden. Funny how this Nobel Peace prize winner keeps taking about invading Syria but has yet to mention the word PEACE.
Title: RUSSIA: ''Syria will be armed with weapons that have never been seen before in..
Post by: EL Mariachi on September 09, 2013, 09:31:09 AM
RUSSIA: ''Syria will be armed with weapons that have never been seen before ... the middle east.





Last week, Noble Peace Prize winner President Barrack Obama advised that his administration would be arming the Free Syrian Army with weapons to resist the armies of Syria’s President Bashar Assad. Furthermore, they would look to implement a Libya-style no-fly zone over the country, which like Libya, would likely involve widespread carpet bombing of suspected military strongholds and control centers.

With boots on the ground around Syria’s borders, the United States is without a doubt preparing for widespread engagement across the region yet again, with the aim of the new U.S. supplied weapons being more killing and destruction in a civil war that has left tens of thousands dead in the last year.

It is the assumption of the Obama administration that these weapons will tip the scales of power in favor of the rebels, many of whom have been identified as members of America’s arch enemy, Al Queda.

But Russia’s KGB-hardened President Vladimir Putin has other ideas.

This week, according to a British intelligence report, Putin reportedly passed on a diplomatic communique to the United States and France using British Prime Minister David Cameron as the intermediary.

According to the report from Syrian-based Dam Press and the Dyar Newspaper, the Russians aren’t backing off their Syria policy and they are getting ready to double down by supplying Assad’s military with weapons the have never before been seen in the middle east.

If and when Western forces engage the Syrian army you can be assured that it will be nothing like the 1991 conflict in Iraq when a hundred thousand of Saddam Hussein’s soldiers surrendered without firing a shot. Nor will it be a no-fly zone free-for-all where air forces will be able to target military assets as they did in Libya without being challenged.

No, this time will be different.






The Patriot Missiles will be hit and repealed with S 300 SAM [already installed in Syria]. Putin also threatened to deliver the more advanced S400 anti-aircraft missiles (see image below) far superior to the Patriot missiles and ranked as the World’s most advanced air defense system.

He added that Russia will also supply Syria with state-of –the-art 24-Barrell rocket launchers which have a range of 60 km ranked as the most developed artillery weapon of its kind.(see video below)

putin-weapons2

He added that Russia will supply 400 of these launchers which will be able to destroy all targets around Syria’s borders.



The British intelligence site stated that Putin threatened to send other secret Russian made weapons to Syria which would tip the balance of power even further in favour of Syria and re-iterated that these weapons will not be used against Israel on condition that Israel will not participate in the war within Syria and neighbouring countries. {Lebanon, Jordan]



Putin’s response came just over 24 hours after Obama’s statement on Saturday that he was going to arm the Syrian resistance.

Putin clearly stated that the Middle East is going to witness a significant change.  Syria will be armed with weapons that have never been seen before [in the Middle East] including computer guided smart missiles that never miss their target.

He also added that Russia will supply Syria with Skean 5 ground -to-sea missiles that are capable of hitting and sinking any target up to 250 km off the Syrian coast.

Title: Re: RUSSIA: ''Syria will be armed with weapons that have never been seen before in..
Post by: Kwon_2 on September 09, 2013, 09:35:42 AM
LOL They're playing Chess with Syria as Pawns

Obama Bin will be arming the Free Syrian Army with weapons to "tip the scales of power" and Putin will be supplying Assad's forces with Weapons that have never been seen before in the middle-east!

It's like two Gods playing with their different followers, and awaiting the outcome.

Patriots VS S400, The battle of Tech has begun

Interesting to see what "secret Weapons" Putin talk about
Title: Re: RUSSIA: ''Syria will be armed with weapons that have never been seen before in..
Post by: EL Mariachi on September 09, 2013, 09:40:00 AM
LOL They're playing Chess with Syria as Pawns

Obama Bin will be arming the Free Syrian Army with weapons to "tip the scales of power" and Putin will be supplying Assad's forces with Weapons that have never been seen before in the middle-east!

It's like two Gods playing with their different followers, and awaiting the outcome.

Patriots VS S400, The battle of Tech has begun

Interesting to see what "secret Weapons" Putin talk about

yes the winner here will be china
Title: Re: RUSSIA: ''Syria will be armed with weapons that have never been seen before in..
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on September 09, 2013, 09:42:35 AM
Way to go putin. Show that hebrew obama that russia will not back down
Title: Re: RUSSIA: ''Syria will be armed with weapons that have never been seen before in..
Post by: The_Hammer on September 09, 2013, 09:58:47 AM
USA #1

Fuck Russia!
Title: Re: RUSSIA: ''Syria will be armed with weapons that have never been seen before in..
Post by: Kwon_2 on September 09, 2013, 10:00:49 AM
Remove Omaba Bin and Put Mensa Bob Ladulås as POTUS instead!
Title: Re: RUSSIA: ''Syria will be armed with weapons that have never been seen before in..
Post by: the trainer on September 09, 2013, 10:03:02 AM
I bet you that if syria has oil these countries would come together and blast the president out of power and put a puppet in place.
Title: Re: RUSSIA: ''Syria will be armed with weapons that have never been seen before in..
Post by: Tapeworm on September 09, 2013, 10:06:36 AM
Will Brinkmanship?

Obama overstepped badly.  Our invade a country without regard to international disapproval prividges are pretty much all used up.  Now he needs to back down and he can't.  Well played, asshole.

"In light of new evidence about the origin of the gas...."  Fuck, I hope someone's writing it.
Title: Re: RUSSIA: ''Syria will be armed with weapons that have never been seen before in..
Post by: EL Mariachi on September 09, 2013, 10:16:57 AM
 ;)
Title: Re: RUSSIA: ''Syria will be armed with weapons that have never been seen before in..
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on September 09, 2013, 10:18:31 AM
Remove Omaba Bin and Put Mensa Bob Ladulås as POTUS instead!
best idea ever
Title: Re: RUSSIA: ''Syria will be armed with weapons that have never been seen before in..
Post by: Rami on September 09, 2013, 10:39:42 AM
Syria want to hand over it's chemical weapons now. Sounds like admission of guilt.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/09/politics/syria-kerry/index.html
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: thebrink on September 09, 2013, 10:40:48 AM
yes, gobama is the perfect fall guy. i even hear his name frequently in pop songs on the radio wow
Title: Re: RUSSIA: ''Syria will be armed with weapons that have never been seen before in..
Post by: EL Mariachi on September 09, 2013, 10:55:01 AM
Sounds like admission of guilt.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/09/politics/syria-kerry/index.html

not at all
Title: Re: RUSSIA: ''Syria will be armed with weapons that have never been seen before in..
Post by: crownshep on September 09, 2013, 11:06:37 AM
Syria want to hand over it's chemical weapons now. Sounds like admission of guilt.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/09/politics/syria-kerry/index.html

Of course it isn`t,by doing this USA now has no reason to attack.Plus they can then say "and hand over your chemical weapons too" to Obama.
Title: Re: RUSSIA: ''Syria will be armed with weapons that have never been seen before in..
Post by: EL Mariachi on September 09, 2013, 11:29:06 AM
crownshep educating getbiggers since 2004
Title: Re: RUSSIA: ''Syria will be armed with weapons that have never been seen before in..
Post by: bradistani on September 09, 2013, 11:34:06 AM
..the middle east.





Last week, Noble Peace Prize winner President Barrack Obama advised that his administration would be arming the Free Syrian Army with weapons to resist the armies of Syria’s President Bashar Assad. Furthermore, they would look to implement a Libya-style no-fly zone over the country, which like Libya, would likely involve widespread carpet bombing of suspected military strongholds and control centers.

With boots on the ground around Syria’s borders, the United States is without a doubt preparing for widespread engagement across the region yet again, with the aim of the new U.S. supplied weapons being more killing and destruction in a civil war that has left tens of thousands dead in the last year.

It is the assumption of the Obama administration that these weapons will tip the scales of power in favor of the rebels, many of whom have been identified as members of America’s arch enemy, Al Queda.

But Russia’s KGB-hardened President Vladimir Putin has other ideas.

This week, according to a British intelligence report, Putin reportedly passed on a diplomatic communique to the United States and France using British Prime Minister David Cameron as the intermediary.

According to the report from Syrian-based Dam Press and the Dyar Newspaper, the Russians aren’t backing off their Syria policy and they are getting ready to double down by supplying Assad’s military with weapons the have never before been seen in the middle east.

If and when Western forces engage the Syrian army you can be assured that it will be nothing like the 1991 conflict in Iraq when a hundred thousand of Saddam Hussein’s soldiers surrendered without firing a shot. Nor will it be a no-fly zone free-for-all where air forces will be able to target military assets as they did in Libya without being challenged.

No, this time will be different.






The Patriot Missiles will be hit and repealed with S 300 SAM [already installed in Syria]. Putin also threatened to deliver the more advanced S400 anti-aircraft missiles (see image below) far superior to the Patriot missiles and ranked as the World’s most advanced air defense system.

He added that Russia will also supply Syria with state-of –the-art 24-Barrell rocket launchers which have a range of 60 km ranked as the most developed artillery weapon of its kind.(see video below)

putin-weapons2

He added that Russia will supply 400 of these launchers which will be able to destroy all targets around Syria’s borders.



The British intelligence site stated that Putin threatened to send other secret Russian made weapons to Syria which would tip the balance of power even further in favour of Syria and re-iterated that these weapons will not be used against Israel on condition that Israel will not participate in the war within Syria and neighbouring countries. {Lebanon, Jordan]



Putin’s response came just over 24 hours after Obama’s statement on Saturday that he was going to arm the Syrian resistance.

Putin clearly stated that the Middle East is going to witness a significant change.  Syria will be armed with weapons that have never been seen before [in the Middle East] including computer guided smart missiles that never miss their target.

He also added that Russia will supply Syria with Skean 5 ground -to-sea missiles that are capable of hitting and sinking any target up to 250 km off the Syrian coast.




so weapons that actually work and are effective, then ????  ;D


poor old russia!! always having to watch on as the yanks annihilate any and all these countries that have been armed to the teeth with inferior, ruskie 'tech '  :-[
Title: Re: Assad owning Obama and Washington.
Post by: Dr Dutch on September 09, 2013, 01:52:57 PM
If Assad attacks Isreal with that chemical shit, the Isreali's will nuke his gutt......he's smart enough to know that.
Title: Re: Assad owning Obama and Washington.
Post by: BigRo on September 09, 2013, 01:55:29 PM
http://www.infowars.com/rt-sources-syrian-rebels-plan-chem-attack-on-israel-from-assad-controlled-territories/
Title: Re: Assad owning Obama and Washington.
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on September 09, 2013, 02:03:43 PM
If Assad attacks Isreal with that chemical shit, the Isreali's will nuke his gutt......he's smart enough to know that.

What if there is a staged attack to make it look like Assad?
Title: Re: Assad owning Obama and Washington.
Post by: james87 on September 09, 2013, 02:15:16 PM
I'm not informed enough about this situation but serious question, how does US benefit so much by going to war with Syria?
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 09, 2013, 02:21:05 PM
Russia moves war ships into the area under the guise of removing Russian citizens from Syria. It doesn't look like Obama will get the Congressional approval. Russia says why don't we ask them to voluntarily give up there chemical weapons of mass destruction? Syria says that's a great idea and Obama's administration agrees to save face.

"We would welcome Assad giving up his chemical weapons. ... That would be terrific," White House Deputy National Security Adviser Tony Blinken said, while stressing that Congress should still vote to authorize the use of force in order to keep the pressure on Syria.

Title: Re: Assad owning Obama and Washington.
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on September 09, 2013, 02:26:27 PM
I'm not informed enough about this situation but serious question, how does US benefit so much by going to war with Syria?

US?  nothing, but the billions to trillions the defense contractors get for creating more drones, missles, guns, bullets etc... is a lot.

I was just reading how there is $300 million missing in funds for Afganistan for services from contractors not rendered.

In Iraq , pallets with $8 billions in money, real cash went missing and is unaccounted for.  You know a bunch of military guys split that shit up.  I know of one who came back from deployment and all of a sudden was rolling in a new Range Rover and his wife got an escalade.  Another guy was flaunting jewels from saddams castle.

So the USA goes into more debt but the companies that put these assholes into congress get a huge kickback.
Title: Re: Assad owning Obama and Washington.
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 09, 2013, 02:28:43 PM
I think Assad might be one of the good guys. He is trying to rid his country of terrorist factions. He has every right to do so. Obama needs to stay the fuck out of it.

Hillary and Kerry both praised assad remember? 
Title: Re: Assad owning Obama and Washington.
Post by: The True Adonis on September 09, 2013, 02:32:52 PM
Hillary and Kerry both praised assad remember? 

And Rumsfeld, one of the architects removing Saddam thought he was decent at one time. I don`t really see a point to either of this as politics and governments and situations and people change.  Afterall, you are now a liberal code pink supporter.  :D

(http://peowagstrom.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/saddam_rumsfeld.jpg)
Title: Re: Assad owning Obama and Washington.
Post by: smoothasf on September 09, 2013, 02:35:56 PM
It's not Obama he's as puppet. Your US government is corrupt.  The government does not represent the people any more. Your first amendment was written to stop this. 
Title: Re: Assad owning Obama and Washington.
Post by: The True Adonis on September 09, 2013, 02:38:41 PM
It's not Obama he's as puppet. Your US government is corrupt.  The government does not represent the people any more. Your first amendment was written to stop this. 
???
Title: Re: Assad owning Obama and Washington.
Post by: arce1988 on September 09, 2013, 02:40:07 PM
 USA wants every middle east country
Title: Re: Assad owning Obama and Washington.
Post by: The True Adonis on September 09, 2013, 02:42:37 PM
USA wants every middle east country
To drop their Religious Extremism and penchant for violence.   Notice how, civilized, non-Theocratic based countries act and compare them with those where Religion is at the helm.  Its time they go away.  Its long overdue actually.
Title: Re: Assad owning Obama and Washington.
Post by: Iceman1981 on September 09, 2013, 02:43:07 PM
You're slow. We've being saying this from the beginning. he was winning the war. Everything was going his way. He has absolutely nothing positive to gain from gassing his people. This is the U.S. doing as a way to invade. In other words, false flag. I'm ten steps ahead of you.

This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Title: Re: Assad owning Obama and Washington.
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on September 09, 2013, 03:03:36 PM
To drop their Religious Extremism and penchant for violence.   Notice how, civilized, non-Theocratic based countries act and compare them with those where Religion is at the helm.  Its time they go away.  Its long overdue actually.

So the US who are religious Christian extremists using violence to stop other countries with religious extremists.  I see how this works.  Fucking retard.
Title: Re: Assad owning Obama and Washington.
Post by: The True Adonis on September 09, 2013, 03:06:06 PM
So the US who are religious Christian extremists using violence to stop other countries with religious extremists.  I see how this works.  Fucking retard.
Uh, there is a WALL OF SEPARATION between church and state in our Government and there is nothing Christian about our government or how it operates.  Big difference there, you strumpet.
Title: Re: Assad owning Obama and Washington.
Post by: EL Mariachi on September 09, 2013, 03:09:09 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Assad owning Obama and Washington.
Post by: The True Adonis on September 09, 2013, 03:12:12 PM
(http://img.thesun.co.uk/aidemitlum/archive/00728/SNF0730NOSE_666_728040a.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__Ei_dKIFdx0/TKZhIKcNghI/AAAAAAAABJo/XJ106Fk6nsw/s320/Unknown-1.jpeg)
Title: Re: Assad owning Obama and Washington.
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 09, 2013, 03:12:17 PM
;)

 :D
Title: Re: RUSSIA: ''Syria will be armed with weapons that have never been seen before in..
Post by: EL Mariachi on September 09, 2013, 03:14:09 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Assad owning Obama and Washington.
Post by: The True Adonis on September 09, 2013, 03:14:23 PM
(http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2006/07/07/putin_wideweb__470x351,0.jpg)
Title: Re: Assad owning Obama and Washington.
Post by: O.Z. on September 09, 2013, 03:18:01 PM
You're slow. We've being saying this from the beginning. he was winning the war. Everything was going his way. He has absolutely nothing positive to gain from gassing his people. This is the U.S. doing as a way to invade. In other words, false flag. I'm ten steps ahead of you.

thus desperation from White House with this nonsense we see on daily basis.
Obama mentioned a few times in past if Assad use chemical weapons that is it, the red line is crossed. Why would Assad risk that?
I have noticed that Obama's body language recently is showing a person who is uncomfortable with all the recent statements about Syria. Quite contrary of his usual speeches oozing with confidence.
Title: Re: Assad owning Obama and Washington.
Post by: Natural Man on September 09, 2013, 03:18:20 PM
EVeryone defending his own private interests... Of course asshat is going to use the medias to mindfuck with those who want to fuck him cause he didnt comply with what they were expecting from him. Ultimately westerners, the rich middle east sheiks and isrealis will still run a train on him and his followers whatever what western "opinions" might think. As if they cared. Rich people lead this planet, they want the ressources, the power, they want to sell the shit to poor people in order to stay and get richer. The whole thing will never end. asshat is just butthurt because he s been booted out of the club of the powerful ones. He might whine all he wants, he ll get killed and no confused bleeding heart in the west is going to do shit about it. Pretty pathetic on his part, but hey, he s playing all the remaining cards he has. In the end realizing he s toast he ll probably use some nasty stuff anyway.

Title: Re: Assad owning Obama and Washington.
Post by: EL Mariachi on September 09, 2013, 03:19:56 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: Assad owning Obama and Washington.
Post by: EL Mariachi on September 09, 2013, 03:21:25 PM
EVeryone defending his own private interests... Of course asshat is going to use the medias to mindfuck with those who want to fuck him cause he didnt comply with what they were expecting from him. Ultimately westerners, the rich middle east sheiks and isrealis will still run a train on him and his followers whatever what western "opinions" might think. As if they cared. Rich people lead this planet, they want the ressources, the power, they want to sell the shit to poor people in order to stay and get richer. The whole thing will never end. asshat is just butthurt because he s been booted out of the club of the powerful ones. He might whine all he wants, he ll get killed and no confused bleeding heart in the west is going to do shit about it. Pretty pathetic on his part, but hey, he s playing all the remaining cards he has. In the end realizing he s toast he ll probably use some nasty stuff anyway.


well done, excellent
Title: Assad has a little sugar in his tank.
Post by: The True Adonis on September 09, 2013, 03:24:16 PM
Title: Re: Assad has a little sugar in his tank.
Post by: Marty Champions on September 09, 2013, 03:27:59 PM
he looks alot like hitler dont you think?
Title: Re: Assad has a little sugar in his tank.
Post by: The True Adonis on September 09, 2013, 03:28:56 PM
he looks alot like hitler dont you think?
He has an extremely weak chin, thats for sure.  One Falcon punch would put him in a coma for life.
Title: Re: RUSSIA: ''Syria will be armed with weapons that have never been seen before in..
Post by: Natural Man on September 09, 2013, 03:39:01 PM
lol i d be muslim/arab, i d be ashamed to be toyed around like that by the western powers. Fact is israelis and the US own the fucking planet, and russia china and the ragheads are their bitches.

Btw russia can boast all they want, their army or even china's armies are crap compared to the sheer technical and tactical superiority of the judeo christian coalition.
Title: Re: Assad has a little sugar in his tank.
Post by: Mr Nobody on September 09, 2013, 03:41:49 PM
he looks alot like hitler dont you think?
Looks more like Will Brink ears about the same.
Title: Re: Assad has a little sugar in his tank.
Post by: Natural Man on September 09, 2013, 03:42:50 PM
he looks and sounds like a scared little bitch who knows he s going to see hell unleashed on his sorry ass.

Lol at using the media card to try to get some sympathy, dude is as a ruthless monster as all other worldwide leaders. He probably will end just like saddam and this other ugly clown who ended assfucked by a knife, dont even remember his name.
Title: Re: Assad has a little sugar in his tank.
Post by: O.Z. on September 09, 2013, 03:45:03 PM
looks like there will not be any military action by US.
http://news.yahoo.com/us-weighs-talk-syria-dumping-chemical-weapons-173828112--politics.html
Title: Re: RUSSIA: ''Syria will be armed with weapons that have never been seen before in..
Post by: EL Mariachi on September 09, 2013, 03:47:35 PM
lol i d be muslim/arab, i d be ashamed to be toyed around like that by the western powers. Fact is israelis and the US own the fucking planet, and russia china and the ragheads are their bitches.

Btw russia can boast all they want, their army or even china's armies are crap compared to the sheer technical and tactical superiority of the judeo christian coalition.

well yes the time to strike for the west is now, if you wait another 70 years china will take over. what do you think of the post human world if the west succeeds in this pickle?
Title: Re: RUSSIA: ''Syria will be armed with weapons that have never been seen before in..
Post by: Natural Man on September 09, 2013, 03:52:17 PM
well yes the time to strike for the west is now, if you wait another 70 years china will take over. what do you think of the post human world if the west succeeds in this pickle?
china will never take over, we have them by the balls because if we cant buy their crap they go back to the stone age in a matter of weeks. We all need each others, so no world war is possible at the moment. Maybe after times of great famine but not in a stable world economy. Chinese copy, they never create. They ll never ever be the equals of judeo christian minds. They just dont have it in them. They re not even that good at copying what the west or the russians CREATED. Nowadays, jews, europeans and north americans create and improve stuff, and even russia and then chinese, copy them. Great minds flee russia and other parts of the world to get in north america where the money is.
Title: Re: RUSSIA: ''Syria will be armed with weapons that have never been seen before in..
Post by: EL Mariachi on September 09, 2013, 04:10:52 PM
china will never take over, we have them by the balls because if we cant buy their crap they go back to the stone age in a matter of weeks. We all need each others, so no world war is possible at the moment. Maybe after times of great famine but not in a stable world economy. Chinese copy, they never create. They ll never ever be the equals of judeo christian minds. They just dont have it in them. They re not even that good at copying what the west or the russians CREATED. Nowadays, jews, europeans and north americans create and improve stuff, and even russia and then chinese, copy them. Great minds flee russia and other parts of the world to get in north america where the money is.

good post, do you think there are secret societies behind these forces?
Title: Re: Assad has a little sugar in his tank.
Post by: Jizzacked on September 09, 2013, 04:15:12 PM
haha, sugar in his tank  ;D
Title: Re: Assad has a little sugar in his tank.
Post by: arce1988 on September 09, 2013, 04:23:57 PM
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/4666914560/hBA2D8F26/)
Title: Re: Assad has a little sugar in his tank.
Post by: The True Adonis on September 09, 2013, 04:27:49 PM
Title: Re: RUSSIA: ''Syria will be armed with weapons that have never been seen before in..
Post by: The Ugly on September 09, 2013, 10:33:18 PM
good post, do you think there are secret societies behind these forces?

There are no secret societies. Too many Dan Brown novels.
Title: BREAKING: Assad Threatens Americans With Terrorist Attacks
Post by: The_Hammer on September 09, 2013, 10:49:16 PM
Said that if the U.S. strikes Syria that there will be repercussions in the form of terrorist attacks.

http://www.charlierose.com/ (http://www.charlierose.com/)


(http://i1.prth.gr/images/A96FDFC98B4B6F894A1E4E9C0FCE1345.jpg)
Title: Re: BREAKING: Assad Threatens Americans With Terrorist Attacks
Post by: SF1900 on September 09, 2013, 10:57:08 PM
Bashar al-Assad warns America to 'expect everything' in retaliation for military strike
The United States should expect "everything" if it carries out air-strikes against Syria, Bashar al-Assad warned on Monday, as he delivered a thinly veiled threat to the US Congress to think very carefully before authorizing military action.

"You should expect everything," the Syrian president said his first interview with a US television network since Barack Obama announced his decision to take punitive military action against the Assad regime for using chemical weapons.

Asked if he was making a threat of a direct military response to any such attack, Mr Assad, was vague but menacing. "I am not fortune teller to tell you what's going to happen," he said, speaking to CBS News in English from his presidential palace in Damascus.

Pressed on whether reprisals could include chemical weapons, Mr Assad responded with another implicit threat, sticking to his contention – denied by the US – that it was Syria rebels that fired chemical weapons.

"That depends if the rebels or the terrorists in this region or any other group have it. It could happen," he said, "I don't know. Nobody expected the 11th of September," he said, warning of the unintended consequences of strikes in a region where al-Qaeda is gaining ground .

"The government's not the only player in this region," he warned, "You have different parties, different factions, different ideologies. You have everything in this decision now." Mr Assad continues to contest US intelligence assessments that his forces were responsible for the August 12 chemical weapon attack that the US estimates killed more than 1,400 people, reminding American viewers of the "big lie" told by Colin Powell to the UN about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction in 2003.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Assad Threatens Americans With Terrorist Attacks
Post by: The True Adonis on September 09, 2013, 11:12:11 PM



Title: Re: BREAKING: Assad Threatens Americans With Terrorist Attacks
Post by: Mr Nobody on September 09, 2013, 11:16:54 PM
That's not Will's brother.
Title: Re: RUSSIA: ''Syria will be armed with weapons that have never been seen before in..
Post by: Teutonic Knight on September 10, 2013, 01:12:30 AM
In the good old days of Cortes & conquistadors, Spanish would release couple of naked
africans ahead of them  & Incas would shit them self seeing black demons  :D

Nato should try this in Syria  ;), just imagine naked Wiggs running toward Syrians  ;D
Title: Re: RUSSIA: ''Syria will be armed with weapons that have never been seen before in..
Post by: Kwon_2 on September 10, 2013, 01:34:06 AM
In the good old days of Cortes & conquistadors, Spanish would release couple of naked
africans ahead of them  & Incas would shit them self seeing black demons  :D

Nato should try this in Syria  ;), just imagine naked Wiggs running toward Syrians  ;D

Or how about releasing Precious and Monique towards them! :D
Title: Re: BREAKING: Assad Threatens Americans With Terrorist Attacks
Post by: Kwon_2 on September 10, 2013, 01:39:44 AM
"The government's not the only player in this region," he warned,
"You have different parties, different factions, different ideologies. You have everything in this decision now."


What pray tell will happen you figure? :D
Title: Re: BREAKING: Assad Threatens Americans With Terrorist Attacks
Post by: Teutonic Knight on September 10, 2013, 01:47:57 AM
What a "military genius", now he is asking for it  :P
Title: Re: BREAKING: Assad Threatens Americans With Terrorist Attacks
Post by: Kwon_2 on September 10, 2013, 02:11:02 AM
What a "military genius", now he is asking for it  :P

I believe he is desperate, when you are desperate you will try any means.

Will this threat/promise deter what will happen though? Not likely
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: crownshep on September 10, 2013, 05:11:39 AM
Just heard on sky news that syria accepts russia proposal to hand over chemical weapons "as this will knock the legs out from under the table of americas aggression".
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: crownshep on September 10, 2013, 05:15:31 AM
http://news.sky.com/story/1139734/syria-agrees-to-hand-over-chemical-weapons
Title: Re: BREAKING: Assad Threatens Americans With Terrorist Attacks
Post by: Kwon_2 on September 10, 2013, 05:27:02 AM
Me watching the news
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/theoatmeal-img/comics/syria/syria.png)
Title: Re: BREAKING: Assad Threatens Americans With Terrorist Attacks
Post by: Necrosis on September 10, 2013, 06:04:01 AM
What he said is correct
Title: Re: BREAKING: Assad Threatens Americans With Terrorist Attacks
Post by: Tito24 on September 10, 2013, 06:30:43 AM
love to meet him
Title: Re: BREAKING: Assad Threatens Americans With Terrorist Attacks
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on September 10, 2013, 07:55:31 AM
So America attacking Syria is not labeled as terrorism but if he retaliates it's terrorism.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Assad Threatens Americans With Terrorist Attacks
Post by: crownshep on September 10, 2013, 08:11:17 AM
And when all else fails,launch another false flag attack,watch the video and click the link to the CIA guy.

http://aangirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/syrian-rebels-plan-false-flag-attack-on.html?m=1
Title: Re: BREAKING: Assad Threatens Americans With Terrorist Attacks
Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on September 10, 2013, 10:31:59 AM
Said that if the U.S. strikes Syria that there will be repercussions in the form of terrorist attacks.

http://www.charlierose.com/ (http://www.charlierose.com/)


(http://i1.prth.gr/images/A96FDFC98B4B6F894A1E4E9C0FCE1345.jpg)




 Didn't you read the memo? war was canceled b*tch. lol

 The US looked weak from the beginning and it only seemed to get worse as it wore on. I think Putin just capitalized on momentum. your leadership could not put together an allied coalition to support an action. your leadership could not make a solid enough case  in the US to garner much support either.

 Plus strengthens Russian/Iranian position in Syria at the expense of fundamentalist Israeli/Saudi/US interests.

Guess who will spearhead the chemical removal process? And guess who if attacked, will have legitimate excuse to pancake rebel groups?

 Russia you old dog.


 Russia gets to embarrass the US for not having the balls to go in alone.

Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: Kwon_2 on September 10, 2013, 10:32:54 AM
Putin takes advantage of Kerry-blunder

In what looks like an off-the-cuff blunder, Secretary of State John Kerry might have accidentally given Russian President Vladmir Putin the opportunity to muddy the international diplomatic waters and buy his friends in Syria some time.

During a press briefing on Monday, Kerry said that Assad could avoid American air strikes by giving up all his chemical weapons within a week.

Within hours, the State Department was forced to walk Kerry's new red line back with the claim that he was making a "rhetorical argument about the impossibility and unlikelihood of Assad turning over chemical weapons he has denied he used."

It seems, then, reasonable to conclude that Kerry spoke out of turn. Kerry was not authorized to offer Syria an "out" or a new ultimatum. But Kerry's hypothetical hyperbole appears to have already backfired.

In an obvious desire to make Kerry pay for his flub and throw a wrench in Obama's determination to go to war with Syria, Putin has seized upon Kerry's hypothetical and called on Syria to accept Kerry's offer and turn over all of its chemical weapons.

No one believes Assad would ever willingly give up his chemical weapons, but should he agree to an offer the Obama administration did not mean to make, it could stall American action for weeks and even months.

Syria is already warming to the idea.  

This complication could be a major blow to all of the Obama administration's prepared plans to punish Assad for using the weapons and to change the balance of power in the ongoing Syrian civil war.  Public opposition to Obama's war is already surging.
Weeks or months from now, after the torturous international diplomatic process that no one believes would end with Assad giving up the chemical weapons that keep him in power winds down, it is doubtful Congress or the American public would be ready to stomach a renewed push for war.

But now that Putin has suggested Syria say "yes" to an offer Kerry was sure no one would accept, the Associated Press is reporting that the State Department will take a "hard look" at Russia's proposal.

Just like Obama's unscripted "red line" comment that started this debacle, it looks as though another off-teleprompter administration blunder has shoved America's foreign policy into a corner.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Assad Threatens Americans With Terrorist Attacks
Post by: Kwon_2 on September 10, 2013, 10:35:34 AM
Putin takes advantage of Kerry-blunder
(http://inmoscowsshadows.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/putin-sitting.jpg)

In what looks like an off-the-cuff blunder, Secretary of State John Kerry might have accidentally given Russian President Vladmir Putin the opportunity to muddy the international diplomatic waters and buy his friends in Syria some time.

During a press briefing on Monday, Kerry said that Assad could avoid American air strikes by giving up all his chemical weapons within a week.

Within hours, the State Department was forced to walk Kerry's new red line back with the claim that he was making a "rhetorical argument about the impossibility and unlikelihood of Assad turning over chemical weapons he has denied he used."

It seems, then, reasonable to conclude that Kerry spoke out of turn. Kerry was not authorized to offer Syria an "out" or a new ultimatum. But Kerry's hypothetical hyperbole appears to have already backfired.

In an obvious desire to make Kerry pay for his flub and throw a wrench in Obama's determination to go to war with Syria, Putin has seized upon Kerry's hypothetical and called on Syria to accept Kerry's offer and turn over all of its chemical weapons.

No one believes Assad would ever willingly give up his chemical weapons, but should he agree to an offer the Obama administration did not mean to make, it could stall American action for weeks and even months.

Syria is already warming to the idea.  

This complication could be a major blow to all of the Obama administration's prepared plans to punish Assad for using the weapons and to change the balance of power in the ongoing Syrian civil war.  Public opposition to Obama's war is already surging.
Weeks or months from now, after the torturous international diplomatic process that no one believes would end with Assad giving up the chemical weapons that keep him in power winds down, it is doubtful Congress or the American public would be ready to stomach a renewed push for war.

But now that Putin has suggested Syria say "yes" to an offer Kerry was sure no one would accept, the Associated Press is reporting that the State Department will take a "hard look" at Russia's proposal.

Just like Obama's unscripted "red line" comment that started this debacle, it looks as though another off-teleprompter administration blunder has shoved America's foreign policy into a corner.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Assad Threatens Americans With Terrorist Attacks
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 10, 2013, 10:51:11 AM
Said that if the U.S. strikes Syria that there will be repercussions in the form of terrorist attacks.

http://www.charlierose.com/ (http://www.charlierose.com/)


(http://i1.prth.gr/images/A96FDFC98B4B6F894A1E4E9C0FCE1345.jpg)

What am I missing here? You make it sound as if Syria was going to strike on OUR soil. You have Obama and dumbass Kerry trying to make it an issue that we MUST go there even when 90% of the American people, both republicans and liberals don't want it.

On to a more important issue...when in the fuck are they going to get to the bottom of Bengazi and Fast and Furious?

There is a reason why Obama wants this so bad and it's not to "help" the Syrian people. There's A LOT more to this!!
Title: Re: BREAKING: Assad Threatens Americans With Terrorist Attacks
Post by: NelsonMuntz on September 10, 2013, 10:52:31 AM
Ironic that the Obama government is all up in arms about chemical weapons harming children yet they let chemical companies like Montasanto and the food corps fuck with our food and poison our children daily
Title: Re: BREAKING: Assad Threatens Americans With Terrorist Attacks
Post by: Mawse on September 10, 2013, 11:00:21 AM
So Obama threatens to bomb him, despite him doing nothing to the US and the US having no actual reason to attack him.. and he insinuates that him/hamas/etc might retaliate if the US attacks him first.

Wow, what an evil dictator  ::) He should bend over and accept Obamas load and be happy we're spreading some Freedums to his country

Title: Re: BREAKING: Assad Threatens Americans With Terrorist Attacks
Post by: Tito24 on September 10, 2013, 11:01:59 AM
Ironic that the Obama government is all up in arms about chemical weapons harming children yet they let chemical companies like Montasanto and the food corps fuck with our food and poison our children daily

!!
Title: Re: BREAKING: Assad Threatens Americans With Terrorist Attacks
Post by: 240 is Back on September 10, 2013, 11:08:24 AM
Our goal was to stop the use of chemical weapons.  While the world said no thanks, we made threats and now they are giving up the chemical weapons.

It's easy to call Obama a wimp because he benches 115 and prances while he walks.  But he did make threats and they did give in (or are about to).

History will view this as Syria using WMD, Obama and USA being the sole voices against it, then Syria surrendering weapons.  Without loss of life or financial cost of war.  That's not a win?
Title: Re: BREAKING: Assad Threatens Americans With Terrorist Attacks
Post by: Wiggs on September 10, 2013, 11:11:00 AM
Our goal was to stop the use of chemical weapons.  While the world said no thanks, we made threats and now they are giving up the chemical weapons.

It's easy to call Obama a wimp because he benches 115 and prances while he walks.  But he did make threats and they did give in (or are about to).

History will view this as Syria using WMD, Obama and USA being the sole voices against it, then Syria surrendering weapons.  Without loss of life or financial cost of war.  That's not a win?

They're trying to call Obama's bluff.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Assad Threatens Americans With Terrorist Attacks
Post by: 240 is Back on September 10, 2013, 11:14:07 AM
If they surrender them, it's a win.  But that hasn't happened yet.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Assad Threatens Americans With Terrorist Attacks
Post by: Wiggs on September 10, 2013, 11:17:02 AM
If they surrender them, it's a win.  But that hasn't happened yet.

Obama will still want to go in. There's something there they want. Whether it's position, resources or whatever. They want to attack for a reason. We are being distracted with this.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Assad Threatens Americans With Terrorist Attacks
Post by: anvil on September 10, 2013, 11:17:54 AM
I tell ya Putin went about this all wrong, negotiating this all peaceful and whatnot.  He should've come in guns blazing and screaming for battle, then perhaps he too could win the Nobel prize.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Assad Threatens Americans With Terrorist Attacks
Post by: Papper on September 10, 2013, 11:23:09 AM
So Obama threatens to bomb him, despite him doing nothing to the US and the US having no actual reason to attack him.. and he insinuates that him/hamas/etc might retaliate if the US attacks him first.

Wow, what an evil dictator  ::) He should bend over and accept Obamas load and be happy we're spreading some Freedums to his country



Lold at evil dictator ;D haha

I tell ya Putin went about this all wrong, negotiating this all peaceful and whatnot.  He should've come in guns blazing and screaming for battle, then perhaps he too could win the Nobel prize.

Don't fuck with Obamas peace making skills.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Assad Threatens Americans With Terrorist Attacks
Post by: 240 is Back on September 10, 2013, 11:26:19 AM
Obama will still want to go in. There's something there they want. Whether it's position, resources or whatever. They want to attack for a reason. We are being distracted with this.

I'm sure obama wants a lot of things :)  But if america's stated goal was to prevent the use of chemical weapons in syria, then this is a win.

Maybe a dude like assad doesn't respond well to weak requests from UN.  Maybe it takes a nuke power like the USA to rally for a war resolution before they'll give up the WMD.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Assad Threatens Americans With Terrorist Attacks
Post by: Wiggs on September 10, 2013, 11:28:50 AM
Well this evening, the world will hear what he has to say.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Assad Threatens Americans With Terrorist Attacks
Post by: 240 is Back on September 10, 2013, 11:29:56 AM
Well this evening, the world will hear what he has to say.


wait, obama giving a speech tonight?  Better not interfere with Sons of Anarchy season premiere
Title: Re: BREAKING: Assad Threatens Americans With Terrorist Attacks
Post by: Wiggs on September 10, 2013, 11:33:51 AM

wait, obama giving a speech tonight?  Better not interfere with Sons of Anarchy season premiere

Yep, tonight he gives a speech regarding this whole Syria situation.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Assad Threatens Americans With Terrorist Attacks
Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on September 10, 2013, 11:35:38 AM
Obama will still want to go in. There's something there they want. Whether it's position, resources or whatever. They want to attack for a reason. We are being distracted with this.

 If US take over Syria, the next chapter would be Iran. do you think Russia and China would let that happen?

 Like I've said before that would never happen. forget about Syria and Iran guys.

 Guess the super army didn't help this time... well!! better luck next time. lol.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Assad Threatens Americans With Terrorist Attacks
Post by: Wiggs on September 10, 2013, 11:39:51 AM
If US take over Syria, the next chapter would be Iran. do you think Russia and China would let that happen?

 Like I've said before that would never happen. forget about Syria and Iran guys.

 Guess the super army didn't help this time... well!! better luck next time. lol.

This is all a distraction. In the end people will see that U.S. Iran, Russia, Israel, China, all working together. This has been a show to usher in the new age. 1 world government and Americans will be disarmed by foreign troops. They'll create a false flag to lure the Americans into some BS conflict overseas, the input "UN peacekeepers". to pull the plug on Americans.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Assad Threatens Americans With Terrorist Attacks
Post by: Emmortal on September 10, 2013, 11:44:39 AM
So America attacking Syria is not labeled as terrorism but if he retaliates it's terrorism.

It wasn't terrorism when the US dropped tons of Agent Orange indiscriminately over civilians and farm land causing birth defects, deformities etc in the Vietnam War

It wasn't terrorism when the US used depleted uranium shells in Iraq causing cancer to skyrocket, birth defects and malformed babies.

It wasn't terrorism when the US experimented with chemical weapons on US citizens in Utah.

It's only terrorism when the terrorists use it.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Assad Threatens Americans With Terrorist Attacks
Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on September 10, 2013, 12:55:11 PM
This is all a distraction. In the end people will see that U.S. Iran, Russia, Israel, China, all working together. This has been a show to usher in the new age. 1 world government and Americans will be disarmed by foreign troops. They'll create a false flag to lure the Americans into some BS conflict overseas, the input "UN peacekeepers". to pull the plug on Americans.



 Well!! you guys are pushing to hard.

 Plus cutting funds in some areas "wrong ones" will not help much.

 http://io9.com/how-is-the-sequester-affecting-science-in-america-1283470414
Title: Re: BREAKING: Assad Threatens Americans With Terrorist Attacks
Post by: thebrink on September 10, 2013, 01:01:18 PM
This is all a distraction. In the end people will see that U.S. Iran, Russia, Israel, China, all working together. This has been a show to usher in the new age. 1 world government and Americans will be disarmed by foreign troops. They'll create a false flag to lure the Americans into some BS conflict overseas, the input "UN peacekeepers". to pull the plug on Americans.

jesus h christ ...  :-\
Title: Re: BREAKING: Assad Threatens Americans With Terrorist Attacks
Post by: Natural Man on September 10, 2013, 01:24:03 PM
Me watching the news
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/theoatmeal-img/comics/syria/syria.png)
haha exactly,people are only outraged when someone use weapons that are too effective and might end the conflict too soon, thus leaving them with no more fun. They want their fair share of death by small arms fire daily, it helps them feel better about having to work a shit job and being bottom feeder in the western society.
Title: Re: Assad owning Obama and Washington.
Post by: Dr Dutch on September 10, 2013, 01:47:43 PM
What if there is a staged attack to make it look like Assad?
You got a strong point, the same thing happened with Saddam..
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: Dr Dutch on September 10, 2013, 01:52:25 PM
Friend of mine did research at a Syrian University. Very educated and civilized people. He did not meet Assad, but some ministers of the state. Very educated and really Western orientated people. Not a super-Jihad state or something at all.
That's why I don't understand Assad. Just some modifications and a better long/term direction and things could work out perfectly....
Title: Re: BREAKING: Assad Threatens Americans With Terrorist Attacks
Post by: Teutonic Knight on September 10, 2013, 01:54:09 PM
Wiggs should be peacemaker between baboons & chimpanzees  ;D
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 10, 2013, 02:31:05 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/10/nsa-surveillance-documents_n_3902208.html

Obama is a lying sack of shit
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: Mawse on September 10, 2013, 02:38:55 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/10/nsa-surveillance-documents_n_3902208.html

Obama is a lying sack of shit

LOL huffpo comments are always priceless

"What about the criminal cabal headed up by war criminal in chief Bush II, that preceded this POTUS. Why is HE not in prison for war crimes? "

indeed
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on September 10, 2013, 04:37:12 PM
This Syrian president's chin is caved in because of too many balls have rested on it...Now that he can't have balls on his chin, he wants to start WW3...
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on September 10, 2013, 04:46:59 PM
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTzXlgA7OdwOtWCr4YfPNjULRBWzvQsmGk6aKAiTo6JVlkI3ekz)
Title: Re: BREAKING: Assad Threatens Americans With Terrorist Attacks
Post by: Croatch on September 10, 2013, 08:09:50 PM
So America attacking Syria is not labeled as terrorism but if he retaliates it's terrorism.
Haha, no wonder people hate America.  We make our own rules.
All other violent acts are "act of terror", when we kill its to "preserve freedom". ::)
Or others are "evil" and our country has "god's" blessing.
If you buy into our government, you're a fool.
I like living here, but so many Americans are quite, how do you say....dumb.
Title: On The Verge Of WWIII And Need A book To Read?
Post by: Parker on September 10, 2013, 08:52:54 PM
Well, here is one to calm your nerves.
http://www.amazon.com/Scatter-Adapt-Remember-Survive-Extinction/dp/0385535910?tag=io9-20 (http://www.amazon.com/Scatter-Adapt-Remember-Survive-Extinction/dp/0385535910?tag=io9-20)

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/513s0h8YFEL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA300_SH20_OU01_.jpg)
Title: Re: On The Verge Of WWIII And Need A book To Read?
Post by: The Showstoppa on September 10, 2013, 09:01:05 PM
Looks like a real pick me up. 
Title: Re: BREAKING: Assad Threatens Americans With Terrorist Attacks
Post by: The_Hammer on September 10, 2013, 09:02:42 PM
Obama's address to the nation earlier tonight.

Lest we forget, Obama stayed out of the Syrian conflict for 2 years, despite strong pushes from some of his cabinet to intervene.

U.S. military intelligence revealed that chemical weapons were launched from Syrian Army positions.  Other countries intelligence agencies, such as Germany, have also revealed this.

Al-Assad, who initially denied have chemical weapons, suddenly has come clean and welcomed inspectors into his facilities.  This indicates that Al-Assad is deceptive.

Chemical weapons were the red line, Al-Assad crossed that line.


Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not?
Post by: syntaxmachine on September 10, 2013, 09:06:15 PM
It's possible that the Obama Administration genuinely wants to enforce anti-chemical norms for their own sake, despite previous USG behavior -- fostering Saddam's chemical program and standing by him as he used such weapons on the Iranians and his own people, for example -- but more likely, it is willing to enforce them on this occasion because doing so lines up with its perceived interests, a style of decision making common to every administration.

That shouldn't be surprising to anyone, should it? Don't most other governments try to preserve/expand their power when the opportunity presents itself, applying a moralistic glean to such behavior?
Title: Re: BREAKING: Assad Threatens Americans With Terrorist Attacks
Post by: The Ugly on September 10, 2013, 09:13:31 PM
This is all a distraction. In the end people will see that U.S. Iran, Russia, Israel, China, all working together. This has been a show to usher in the new age. 1 world government and Americans will be disarmed by foreign troops. They'll create a false flag to lure the Americans into some BS conflict overseas, the input "UN peacekeepers". to pull the plug on Americans.

C'mon, dude.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Assad Threatens Americans With Terrorist Attacks
Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on September 10, 2013, 09:27:46 PM
 http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/aipac-syria-96344.html

The powerful pro-Israel lobby AIPAC is planning to launch a major lobbying campaign to push wayward lawmakers to back the resolution authorizing U.S. strikes against Syria, sources said Thursday.

Officials say that some 250 Jewish leaders and AIPAC activists will storm the halls on Capitol Hill beginning next week to persuade lawmakers that Congress must adopt the resolution or risk emboldening Iran’s efforts to build a nuclear weapon. They are expected to lobby virtually every member of Congress, arguing that “barbarism” by the Assad regime cannot be tolerated, and that failing to act would “send a message” to Tehran that the U.S. won’t stand up to hostile countries’ efforts to develop weapons of mass destruction, according to a source with the group.


“History tells us that ambiguity [in U.S. actions] invites aggression,” said the AIPAC source who asked not to be named. The source added the group will now be engaged in a “major mobilization” over the issue.



Despite the group’s political muscle, it often doesn’t get involved in congressional fights over authorizing military action, and it had been mum about intervening in Syria as recently as last week.

But the stepped-up involvement comes at a welcome time for the White House, which is struggling to muster the votes in both chambers for a resolution that would give President Barack Obama the authority to engage in “limited” military action in Syria for 60 days, with one 30-day extension possible. The hawkish group also has ties to many Republicans, including ones who have been critical of the Obama administration’s handling of U.S.-Israeli affairs.



The top two Senate GOP leaders — Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky and Minority Whip John Cornyn of Texas — both have already been urged by top Jewish donors and AIPAC allies to back the Syria resolution, sources say. Unlike their House GOP counterparts who endorsed the measure, McConnell and Cornyn have withheld their support.

A Cornyn aide said Thursday that the senator currently opposes the Syria resolution, which will be debated on the Senate floor next week.

“If the vote were held today, Sen. Cornyn would vote no,” said Megan Mitchell, a spokeswoman for Cornyn. “What he is waiting to see is a credible plan from the administration that will achieve our national security objectives. Specifically, a plan to keep chemical weapons out of the hands of terrorists.”

Don Stewart, a spokesman for McConnell, said that his boss had yet to announce his position on the resolution. McConnell said earlier this week: “While we are learning more about his plans, Congress and our constituents would all benefit from knowing more about what it is he thinks needs to be done — and can be accomplished — in Syria and the region.”


Indeed, AIPAC and the White House also have their work cut out for them in the House — and among Democrats.

Leaving a classified briefing on Syria Thursday, Rep. Niki Tsongas (D-Mass.) said she was undecided on the issue.

“For me, it’s about what makes sense for this country,” Tsongas said when asked how the security of Israel was playing into her deliberations.


 http://www.thenation.com/blog/176001/nyt-cuts-references-aipac-syria-debate

 It was startling, though not exactly surprising. Web detectives spotted it fairly easily. I saw it first from M.J. Rosenberg, but perhaps someone else had earlier. The Daily Beast and others referred to the grafs before they were cut. The Boston Globe published it earlier, in picking up The New York Times story, for example, and they still have it online.

This was cut from the Times’s top story of the day, on their site and in print:

    Administration officials said the influential pro-Israel lobby group Aipac was already at work pressing for military action against the government of Mr. Assad, fearing that if Syria escapes American retribution for its use of chemical weapons, Iran might be emboldened in the future to attack Israel. In the House, the majority leader, Eric Cantor of Virginia, the only Jewish Republican in Congress, has long worked to challenge Democrats’ traditional base among Jews.

    One administration official, who, like others, declined to be identified discussing White House strategy, called Aipac “the 800-pound gorilla in the room,” and said its allies in Congress had to be saying, “If the White House is not capable of enforcing this red line” against the catastrophic use of chemical weapons, “we’re in trouble.”

Updates; All of the many changes in the story tracked here.  Goldberg talks to Politico about it. As he notes, very “strange”—original article was accurate and no space issues on the Web.…Some dialogue with the Times’s Robert Mackey on Twitter, in which he claims “transparency.”  And now: See NYT explanation for cut here (“gorilla” quote had appeared the day before).

Rosenberg comments:

    Obviously the White House and/or AIPAC did not want to be caught saying that the reason we are attacking Syria is to show AIPAC, the “800 pound gorilla,” that we are serious about the war the lobby really craves: Iran.

    But there it is. Or was.

    AIPAC censorship even applies to the Times. Only in America (not Israel, where AIPAC’s power does not extend to Haaretz).

Jeffrey Goldberg in tweet to me just now: “I noted, on Twitter, the AIPAC cut early this morning. Trying to get an answer about why it was cut.”

Brent Sasley at The Daily Beast had commented when he read original story;

    One might, then, expect it to take a public position on the biggest issue of the day, U.S. strikes against the regime’s military assets. And after President Obama announced he was going to Congress for authorization for the attack, observers began wondering—with some claiming more confidently—that AIPAC would become much more active. Apparently White House officials even fear what AIPAC will do. If Obama is seen as not enforcing his red line over Syria, how, one hinted, would this “800-pound gorilla in the room” view the Administration’s Iran policy.



 http://oilprice.com/Geopolitics/Middle-East/Saudi-Prince-Bandar-Schemes-in-Syria.html


 Analysis: Saudi Prince Bandar, the man tasked with handling some very serious foreign affairs by the Saudi King, is behind much of what is happening in Syria right now. It is Bandar through which a lot of the weapons on both fronts are flowing. He’s a household name among intelligence communities, including the CIA, who use him to their own ends. In Syria, his goal is to get rid of Assad, and while he may be losing that game for the time being, change is in the air. Bandar, the former Saudi ambassador to Washington, is a dangerous figure who has far too great a role in what is happening right now in the Middle East. But in Syria, the chemical attack last week is the most convenient thing that could have happened for Bandar and the Saudi goal of pushing for direct US intervention. The chemical attack—which the US publicly says was most likely perpetrated by Assad—makes no sense at this time for the Assad regime. The Syrian rebels are losing and they are clearly outgunned, but the West has hesitated to intervene directly unless the “red line” (chemical attacks) is crossed. Now it has been crossed, and the Saudis have won their lobbying power in Washington. (Remember, it was the Saudis who late last year tried to convince Washington that a chemical attack at that time was the work of Assad). There will be consequences for the wider Middle…



 http://www.corbettreport.com/episode-279-who-is-really-behind-the-syrian-war/



 http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2013/aug/30/syria-chemical-attack-war-intervention-oil-gas-energy-pipelines


 

On 21 August, hundreds - perhaps over a thousand - people were killed in a chemical weapon attack in Ghouta, Damascus, prompting the US, UK, Israel and France to raise the spectre of military strikes against Bashir al Assad's forces.

The latest episode is merely one more horrific event in a conflict that has increasingly taken on genocidal characteristics. The case for action at first glance is indisputable. The UN now confirms a death toll over 100,000 people, the vast majority of whom have been killed by Assad's troops. An estimated 4.5 million people have been displaced from their homes. International observers have overwhelmingly confirmed Assad's complicity in the preponderance of war crimes and crimes against humanity against the Syrian people. The illegitimacy of his regime, and the legitimacy of the uprising, is clear.

Experts are unanimous that the shocking footage of civilians, including children, suffering the effects of some sort of chemical attack, is real - but remain divided on whether it involved military-grade chemical weapons associated with Assad's arsenal, or were a more amateur concoction potentially linked to the rebels.

Whatever the case, few recall that US agitation against Syria began long before recent atrocities, in the context of wider operations targeting Iranian influence across the Middle East.

In May 2007, a presidential finding revealed that Bush had authorised CIA operations against Iran. Anti-Syria operations were also in full swing around this time as part of this covert programme, according to Seymour Hersh in the New Yorker. A range of US government and intelligence sources told him that the Bush administration had "cooperated with Saudi Arabia's government, which is Sunni, in clandestine operations" intended to weaken the Shi'ite Hezbollah in Lebanon. "The US has also taken part in clandestine operations aimed at Iran and its ally Syria," wrote Hersh, "a byproduct" of which is "the bolstering of Sunni extremist groups" hostile to the United States and "sympathetic to al-Qaeda." He noted that "the Saudi government, with Washington's approval, would provide funds and logistical aid to weaken the government of President Bashir Assad, of Syria," with a view to pressure him to be "more conciliatory and open to negotiations" with Israel. One faction receiving covert US "political and financial support" through the Saudis was the exiled Syrian Muslim Brotherhood.

According to former French foreign minister Roland Dumas, Britain had planned covert action in Syria as early as 2009: "I was in England two years before the violence in Syria on other business", he told French television:

    "I met with top British officials, who confessed to me that they were preparing something in Syria. This was in Britain not in America. Britain was preparing gunmen to invade Syria."

The 2011 uprisings, it would seem - triggered by a confluence of domestic energy shortages and climate-induced droughts which led to massive food price hikes - came at an opportune moment that was quickly exploited. Leaked emails from the private intelligence firm Stratfor including notes from a meeting with Pentagon officials confirmed US-UK training of Syrian opposition forces since 2011 aimed at eliciting "collapse" of Assad's regime "from within."

So what was this unfolding strategy to undermine Syria and Iran all about? According to retired NATO Secretary General Wesley Clark, a memo from the Office of the US Secretary of Defense just a few weeks after 9/11 revealed plans to "attack and destroy the governments in 7 countries in five years", starting with Iraq and moving on to "Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Iran." In a subsequent interview, Clark argues that this strategy is fundamentally about control of the region's vast oil and gas resources.

Much of the strategy currently at play was candidly described in a 2008 US Army-funded RAND report, Unfolding the Future of the Long War . The report noted that "the economies of the industrialized states will continue to rely heavily on oil, thus making it a strategically important resource." As most oil will be produced in the Middle East, the US has "motive for maintaining stability in and good relations with Middle Eastern states":

    "The geographic area of proven oil reserves coincides with the power base of much of the Salafi-jihadist network. This creates a linkage between oil supplies and the long war that is not easily broken or simply characterized... For the foreseeable future, world oil production growth and total output will be dominated by Persian Gulf resources... The region will therefore remain a strategic priority, and this priority will interact strongly with that of prosecuting the long war."

In this context, the report identified several potential trajectories for regional policy focused on protecting access to Gulf oil supplies, among which the following are most salient:

    "Divide and Rule focuses on exploiting fault lines between the various Salafi-jihadist groups to turn them against each other and dissipate their energy on internal conflicts. This strategy relies heavily on covert action, information operations (IO), unconventional warfare, and support to indigenous security forces... the United States and its local allies could use the nationalist jihadists to launch proxy IO campaigns to discredit the transnational jihadists in the eyes of the local populace... US leaders could also choose to capitalize on the 'Sustained Shia-Sunni Conflict' trajectory by taking the side of the conservative Sunni regimes against Shiite empowerment movements in the Muslim world.... possibly supporting authoritative Sunni governments against a continuingly hostile Iran."

Exploring different scenarios for this trajectory, the report speculated that the US may concentrate "on shoring up the traditional Sunni regimes in Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Pakistan as a way of containing Iranian power and influence in the Middle East and Persian Gulf." Noting that this could actually empower al-Qaeda jihadists, the report concluded that doing so might work in western interests by bogging down jihadi activity with internal sectarian rivalry rather than targeting the US:

    "One of the oddities of this long war trajectory is that it may actually reduce the al-Qaeda threat to US interests in the short term. The upsurge in Shia identity and confidence seen here would certainly cause serious concern in the Salafi-jihadist community in the Muslim world, including the senior leadership of al-Qaeda. As a result, it is very likely that al-Qaeda might focus its efforts on targeting Iranian interests throughout the Middle East and Persian Gulf while simultaneously cutting back on anti-American and anti-Western operations."

The RAND document contextualised this disturbing strategy with surprisingly prescient recognition of the increasing vulnerability of the US's key allies and enemies - Saudi Arabia, the Gulf states, Egypt, Syria, Iran - to a range of converging crises: rapidly rising populations, a 'youth bulge', internal economic inequalities, political frustrations, sectarian tensions, and environmentally-linked water shortages, all of which could destabilise these countries from within or exacerbate inter-state conflicts.

The report noted especially that Syria is among several "downstream countries that are becoming increasingly water scarce as their populations grow", increasing a risk of conflict. Thus, although the RAND document fell far short of recognising the prospect of an 'Arab Spring', it illustrates that three years before the 2011 uprisings, US defence officials were alive to the region's growing instabilities, and concerned by the potential consequences for stability of Gulf oil.

These strategic concerns, motivated by fear of expanding Iranian influence, impacted Syria primarily in relation to pipeline geopolitics. In 2009 - the same year former French foreign minister Dumas alleges the British began planning operations in Syria - Assad refused to sign a proposed agreement with Qatar that would run a pipeline from the latter's North field, contiguous with Iran's South Pars field, through Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Syria and on to Turkey, with a view to supply European markets - albeit crucially bypassing Russia. Assad's rationale was "to protect the interests of [his] Russian ally, which is Europe's top supplier of natural gas."

Instead, the following year, Assad pursued negotiations for an alternative $10 billion pipeline plan with Iran, across Iraq to Syria, that would also potentially allow Iran to supply gas to Europe from its South Pars field shared with Qatar. The Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) for the project was signed in July 2012 - just as Syria's civil war was spreading to Damascus and Aleppo - and earlier this year Iraq signed a framework agreement for construction of the gas pipelines.

The Iran-Iraq-Syria pipeline plan was a "direct slap in the face" to Qatar's plans. No wonder Saudi Prince Bandar bin Sultan, in a failed attempt to bribe Russia to switch sides, told President Vladmir Putin that "whatever regime comes after" Assad, it will be "completely" in Saudi Arabia's hands and will "not sign any agreement allowing any Gulf country to transport its gas across Syria to Europe and compete with Russian gas exports", according to diplomatic sources. When Putin refused, the Prince vowed military action.

It would seem that contradictory self-serving Saudi and Qatari oil interests are pulling the strings of an equally self-serving oil-focused US policy in Syria, if not the wider region. It is this - the problem of establishing a pliable opposition which the US and its oil allies feel confident will play ball, pipeline-style, in a post-Assad Syria - that will determine the nature of any prospective intervention: not concern for Syrian life.

What is beyond doubt is that Assad is a war criminal whose government deserves to be overthrown. The question is by whom, and for what interests?



Title: Re: BREAKING: Assad Threatens Americans With Terrorist Attacks
Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on September 10, 2013, 09:28:23 PM


 http://www.pslweb.org/liberationnews/news/9-times-used-chemical-weapons-WMDs.html
 

 There has been no evidence presented that the Syrian government is responsible for the chemical attack that took the lives of hundreds of civilians. But the U.S. government and Britain claim that their allegations alone give them the moral authority to launch military action, in direct violation of international law. What they leave out is the long history of the U.S. government and its partners using chemical weapons and other weapons of mass destruction—and getting away with it. Here are nine examples:


 #1: World War I, 1914-1918

Modern chemical weapons were first used on a mass scale during World War I, when the imperialist powers of the world sent their soldiers to kill and die in clouds of mustard gas and phosgene to re-divide the world amongst themselves. Germany was the first to use this deadly new weapon, but all sides of the inter-imperialist war joined in. Gas attacks killed 90,000 soldiers and civilians, while being linked to another 1.2 million casualties. Over 10 percent of all chemists in the United States were involved in the production of chemical weapons during the war, and the government ordered 3,000 tons of its own homegrown type of gas.

#2: Britain in Mesopotamia in 1920

Facing a heroic uprising staged by the people of Iraq, British colonial authorities authorized the use of chemical weapons against civilian populations, arguing in their “Manual of Military Law” that “the rules of International Law… do not apply in wars with uncivilized States and tribes”. Winston Churchill, then the civilian head of the British air force, stated that he was “strongly in favor of using poisoned gas against uncivilized tribes,” which he argued, “would spread a lively terror.”

#3: The nuclear bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945

In one of the most infamous crimes against humanity, the U.S. government dropped atomic bombs on the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945 even though top military and political leaders knew that the war was effectively over. Approximately 180,000 people were killed immediately by the bombings, and hundreds of thousands died later of radiation poisoning in the first and only use of nuclear weapons in human history.

#4: Agent Orange in Vietnam, 1961-1971

Over the course of the Vietnam War the U.S. military dropped over 20 million gallons of a deadly chemical weapon called Agent Orange. This campaign killed or maimed 400,000 Vietnamese and led to 500,000 babies being born with debilitating birth defects, in addition to devastating the economic life of the Vietnamese countryside by destroying all plant life that the chemical contacted.

#5: Iran-Iraq War

During the 1980-1988 war between Iraq and Iran, the United States supported the Iraqi government led by Saddam Hussein against the post-Shah Iranian government. Secret documents that have recently been declassified show that the CIA was fully aware of Iraq’s brutal and illegal use of chemical weapons but still continued to provide intelligence and other forms of political and military support. Pictured is Hussein with Donald Rumsfeld, who personally managed the chemical weapons sales.

#6: Depleted uranium in Gulf War

In the 1991 and 2003 invasions of Iraq, the U.S. military used depleted uranium—a chemically toxic and radioactive waste product of nuclear energy—in armor-piercing munitions. The use of DU has been linked to higher radioactivity, cancer rates, and congenital malformations among Iraqi civilians and U.S. soldiers. The United Nations Environment Program (UNEP) estimated that the U.S. fired 1,000 to 2,000 metric tons of depleted uranium in 2003.

#7: White phosphorus in Fallujah, 2005

During the murderous assault on Fallujah in 2004, the U.S. military used white phosphorous chemical weapons as part of its campaign to level the Iraqi city, ultimately forcing 300,000 people to flee their homes. Although the Pentagon still officially denies that it used this brutal weapon, they are contradicted by countless eyewitnesses. One Marine who fought in the battle remembered, “I heard the order to pay attention because they were going to use white phosphorus on Fallujah… Phosphorus burns bodies, in fact it melts the flesh all the way down to the bone... I saw the burned bodies of women and children.”

#8: Israeli use of white phosphorous against people of Gaza, 2008-09

In its 2008-2009 massacre of hundreds of civilians in Gaza, Israel extensively used U.S.-made white phosphorous shells to terrorize densely populated areas – a form of collective punishment for daring to defy colonial aggression. Sabah Abu Halima, a Palestinian victim of an Israeli white phosphorous attack, recalled, “The fire was like lava, my family was burnt and their bodies turned to crisps.” Israel also has repeatedly used thousands of cluster bombs, which wreak enormous civilian damage.

#9 Military testing of radioactive chemicals in St. Louis communities, 1953-1954 and 1963-1965

The United States Military conducted top-secret experiments on the citizens of St. Louis, Missouri, for years, exposing them to radioactive compounds without their knowledge or consent. Approximately 10,000 residents of the Pruitt-Igoe public housing complex, primarily poor and Black, were exposed to the most chemicals. The Army told them they were testing harmless smoke screens, but in fact they were testing the chemical for potential use against the Soviet Union.


 http://thehill.com/blogs/defcon-hill/industry/319031-raytheon-stock-nears-annual-high-amid-news-of-syria-strike-


 The stock price for U.S. defense firm Raytheon jumped close to its highest level Tuesday on Wall Street amid news of possible U.S. military action in Syria.

Raytheon shares were trading at nearly $77 each when U.S. markets opened, coming close to matching its all-time price of $77.93 over the last year for the American defense firm.

Less than an hour before the closing bell, the company's stock price dipped down to $75.25 a share but remained far higher than $52.24 per share, the stock's low point over the last year.

Raytheon is the prime manufacturer of the long-range Tomahawk cruise missile, among other weapon systems and components the company develops for the Defense Department.

The Tomahawk has long been a staple for U.S. Navy warships, and were last used to take out targets in Libya during a 2011 operation to oust former dictator Moammar Gadhafi.

Several Arleigh Burke-class U.S. destroyers outfitted with Tomahawk missiles are on station off the coast of Syria, awaiting orders to begin missile strikes against targets inside the country.

The Obama administration is targeting particular military units and bases in Syria that officials believe are responsible for carrying out chemical weapon attacks against rebel forces in the country.

The entire target list drafted by U.S. military and intelligence officials includes no more than 50 sites inside Syria where forces loyal to President Bashar Assad are stationed, according to recent reports.

Other targets include command and control stations, Syrian military airbases and several "conventional military targets," a U.S. defense official told The New York Times on Tuesday.

If successful, the U.S. strikes could cripple the Syrian military's ability to carry out attacks on rebel forces and bring the government to its knees.

However, White House officials said the goal of these strikes is not to force Assad from power.

"The options we are considering are not about regime change," White House press secretary Jay Carney said Tuesday.

"That is not what we are contemplating here," he told reporters at the White House.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Assad Threatens Americans With Terrorist Attacks
Post by: Mr.1derful on September 10, 2013, 10:27:05 PM
Obama's address to the nation earlier tonight.

Lest we forget, Obama stayed out of the Syrian conflict for 2 years, despite strong pushes from some of his cabinet to intervene.

U.S. military intelligence revealed that chemical weapons were launched from Syrian Army positions.  Other countries intelligence agencies, such as Germany, have also revealed this.

Al-Assad, who initially denied have chemical weapons, suddenly has come clean and welcomed inspectors into his facilities.  This indicates that Al-Assad is deceptive.

Chemical weapons were the red line, Al-Assad crossed that line.






Bullshit, Obama's been arming rebels for 2 years as part of a proxy war.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Assad Threatens Americans With Terrorist Attacks
Post by: Mr.1derful on September 10, 2013, 10:28:14 PM
Putin takes advantage of Kerry-blunder
(http://inmoscowsshadows.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/putin-sitting.jpg)

In what looks like an off-the-cuff blunder, Secretary of State John Kerry might have accidentally given Russian President Vladmir Putin the opportunity to muddy the international diplomatic waters and buy his friends in Syria some time.

During a press briefing on Monday, Kerry said that Assad could avoid American air strikes by giving up all his chemical weapons within a week.

Within hours, the State Department was forced to walk Kerry's new red line back with the claim that he was making a "rhetorical argument about the impossibility and unlikelihood of Assad turning over chemical weapons he has denied he used."

It seems, then, reasonable to conclude that Kerry spoke out of turn. Kerry was not authorized to offer Syria an "out" or a new ultimatum. But Kerry's hypothetical hyperbole appears to have already backfired.

In an obvious desire to make Kerry pay for his flub and throw a wrench in Obama's determination to go to war with Syria, Putin has seized upon Kerry's hypothetical and called on Syria to accept Kerry's offer and turn over all of its chemical weapons.

No one believes Assad would ever willingly give up his chemical weapons, but should he agree to an offer the Obama administration did not mean to make, it could stall American action for weeks and even months.

Syria is already warming to the idea.  

This complication could be a major blow to all of the Obama administration's prepared plans to punish Assad for using the weapons and to change the balance of power in the ongoing Syrian civil war.  Public opposition to Obama's war is already surging.
Weeks or months from now, after the torturous international diplomatic process that no one believes would end with Assad giving up the chemical weapons that keep him in power winds down, it is doubtful Congress or the American public would be ready to stomach a renewed push for war.

But now that Putin has suggested Syria say "yes" to an offer Kerry was sure no one would accept, the Associated Press is reporting that the State Department will take a "hard look" at Russia's proposal.

Just like Obama's unscripted "red line" comment that started this debacle, it looks as though another off-teleprompter administration blunder has shoved America's foreign policy into a corner.

This!  Putin plays a good chess game.
Title: Syrian rebels plan chem attack on Israel from Assad-controlled territories
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on September 11, 2013, 02:25:21 AM
A chemical attack may be launched on Israel by Syrian rebels from government-controlled territories as a "major provocation," multiple sources told RT.

http://rt.com/news/syria-rebels-chemical-attack-israel-618/
Title: Re: Syrian rebels plan chem attack on Israel from Assad-controlled territories
Post by: Teutonic Knight on September 11, 2013, 02:37:32 AM
A chemical attack may be launched on Israel by Syrian rebels from government-controlled territories as a "major provocation," multiple sources told RT.

http://rt.com/news/syria-rebels-chemical-attack-israel-618/

Yeah right, they a not that stupid, Jews would slaughter them.
They should tray frontal attack on Golan heights  ;D ;D ;D & test those motion/laser machine guns  ;)
Got a filling that Israel would take another chunk of Syria if shit happen'  :)
Title: Re: Syrian rebels plan chem attack on Israel from Assad-controlled territories
Post by: Wiggs on September 11, 2013, 02:43:37 AM
I thought Syria was giving up their Chem Weapons after yesterday.
Title: Re: Syrian rebels plan chem attack on Israel from Assad-controlled territories
Post by: Kwon_2 on September 11, 2013, 02:49:01 AM
Syrian Air-Defence Force

40,000 active personnel
Two Air Defence Division HQ
Twenty-five Air Defence Brigade
One hundred thirty Air Defence Batteries

25 teams defense (130 batteries) Including:

Self-propelled
62 batteries:
11 teams - 27 batteries - SA-6 Gainful (PU SAM 2K12 Square);
14 Battery - SA-8 Gecko (PU SAM 9K33 Osa);
12 Battery - SA-22 Greyhound (96K6 Pantsyr S1E);
9 Battery - Buk-M2

Towed
11 teams - 60 batteries with SA-2 Guideline (CP-75 Dvina / S-75M Volga) and SA-3 Goa (S-125 Neva / S-125M Pechora) (Being upgraded);

Two SAM regiment with SA-5 Gammon(in each brigade to 2 divisions for 2 batteries each).
Four SAM battalion
Eight Static/Shelter SAM batteries

Two independent SAM Regiment
Four SAM batteries with SA-8
Four SAM batteries with SA-10

320 Lavochkin CP-75 Dvina/S-75M Volga (SA-2) launchers - under upgrade
148 Isayev S-125 Neva/S-125M Pechora (SA-3) launchers - under upgrade
48 S-200 Angara (SA-5) launchers
200 2K12 Kub (SA-6) launchers
60 9K33 Osa (SA-8) launchers
20 9K31 Strela-1 (SA-9) launchers
35 9K35 Strela-10 (SA-13) launchers
48 9K37 Buk (SA-11) launchers
N/A 9M311-1M Tunguska (SA-19) launchers
50 Pantsir-S1 (SA-22) launchers
N/A S-300 (missile) launchers
Title: Re: Syrian rebels plan chem attack on Israel from Assad-controlled territories
Post by: Kwon_2 on September 11, 2013, 02:50:21 AM
More impressive Army than we thought?

10,885 Armoured Fighting Vehicles:
6450 Main battle tanks (including 1,150 in storage)
1,125 Amphibious Armoured Scout Cars
2,950 Infantry fighting vehicles
1,860 Armoured personnel carriers
4,815+ Towed Artillery Pieces:
1,010+ Mortars
2,130+ Gun/Howitzers (400 in storage)
1,675+ Anti-aircraft guns (300+ in storage)
1,136 Self-Propelled Artillery Pieces:
485 Self-propelled howitzers
650 Self-propelled anti-aircraft guns (240 in storage)
6,890+ Anti Tank Guided Weapon Launchers (4,290 in storage)
500+ Multiple Launch Rocket Systems
86+ Tactical ballistic missile launchers
4,235+ Surface to Air Missile Launchers:
4,000+ MANPADS
1 Manhole
1 Tiberius Bombz
235 Self-propelled air-defence systems
Title: Re: BREAKING: Assad Threatens Americans With Terrorist Attacks
Post by: Teutonic Knight on September 11, 2013, 02:54:38 AM
Yep, tonight he gives a speech regarding this whole Syria situation.

And U pretend to be ex soldier  ::), "this WHOLE Syria situation"  ???
o, yeah Mr.Prez will give away all technical details  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Syrian rebels plan chem attack on Israel from Assad-controlled territories
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on September 11, 2013, 02:56:09 AM
More impressive Army than we thought?

10,885 Armoured Fighting Vehicles:
6450 Main battle tanks (including 1,150 in storage)
1,125 Amphibious Armoured Scout Cars
2,950 Infantry fighting vehicles
1,860 Armoured personnel carriers
4,815+ Towed Artillery Pieces:
1,010+ Mortars
2,130+ Gun/Howitzers (400 in storage)
1,675+ Anti-aircraft guns (300+ in storage)
1,136 Self-Propelled Artillery Pieces:
485 Self-propelled howitzers
650 Self-propelled anti-aircraft guns (240 in storage)
6,890+ Anti Tank Guided Weapon Launchers (4,290 in storage)
500+ Multiple Launch Rocket Systems
86+ Tactical ballistic missile launchers
4,235+ Surface to Air Missile Launchers:
4,000+ MANPADS
1 Manhole
1 Tiberius Bombz
235 Self-propelled air-defence systems
1 Tbomz??
Title: Re: Syrian rebels plan chem attack on Israel from Assad-controlled territories
Post by: Teutonic Knight on September 11, 2013, 03:01:13 AM
3-4 years old numbers, half of the army is fuck of,Israel allready destroyed
X #. of rocket systems  ;)
Title: Re: Syrian rebels plan chem attack on Israel from Assad-controlled territories
Post by: calfzilla on September 11, 2013, 03:01:56 AM
1 Tbomz??

LOL
Title: Re: Syrian rebels plan chem attack on Israel from Assad-controlled territories
Post by: Kwon_2 on September 11, 2013, 03:04:41 AM
1 Tbomz??

Their secret chemical weapon
Title: Re: Syrian rebels plan chem attack on Israel from Assad-controlled territories
Post by: Kwon_2 on September 11, 2013, 03:05:43 AM
3-4 years old numbers, half of the army is fuck of,Israel allready destroyed
X #. of rocket systems  ;)

Good to hear an update, do you have a bit more current numbers? Is it only half that now or even lower?

Do they still have the Tiberius Bombz?
Title: Re: Syrian rebels plan chem attack on Israel from Assad-controlled territories
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on September 11, 2013, 03:08:41 AM
Yeah right, they a not that stupid, Jews would slaughter them.
They should tray frontal attack on Golan heights  ;D ;D ;D & test those motion/laser machine guns  ;)
Got a filling that Israel would take another chunk of Syria if shit happen'  :)

I thought Syria was giving up their Chem Weapons after yesterday.

No, these are US sponsored rebels.  They want Israel to nuke Syria.
Title: Re: Syrian rebels plan chem attack on Israel from Assad-controlled territories
Post by: Teutonic Knight on September 11, 2013, 03:23:55 AM
No, these are US sponsored rebels.  They want Israel to nuke Syria.

The best of all is UN Peace Keepers on Golan heights a from Nato country  ;D
(& Israel friendly) battle harden contingent ;) transferred there from Afghanistan.
This is hilarious, if some stupid Syrian fire on them this will be interperted as
attack on all Nato  ;D



Title: Re: Syrian rebels plan chem attack on Israel from Assad-controlled territories
Post by: Irongrip400 on September 11, 2013, 04:38:50 AM
More impressive Army than we thought?

10,885 Armoured Fighting Vehicles:
6450 Main battle tanks (including 1,150 in storage)
1,125 Amphibious Armoured Scout Cars
2,950 Infantry fighting vehicles
1,860 Armoured personnel carriers
4,815+ Towed Artillery Pieces:
1,010+ Mortars
2,130+ Gun/Howitzers (400 in storage)
1,675+ Anti-aircraft guns (300+ in storage)
1,136 Self-Propelled Artillery Pieces:
485 Self-propelled howitzers
650 Self-propelled anti-aircraft guns (240 in storage)
6,890+ Anti Tank Guided Weapon Launchers (4,290 in storage)
500+ Multiple Launch Rocket Systems
86+ Tactical ballistic missile launchers
4,235+ Surface to Air Missile Launchers:
4,000+ MANPADS
1 Manhole
1 Tiberius Bombz
235 Self-propelled air-defence systems

Is that for when you fart and accidentally shit yourself, so you go to a bathroom and get some toilet paper to put in your underwear. Or so I've been told.
Title: Re: Syrian rebels plan chem attack on Israel from Assad-controlled territories
Post by: jephrius on September 11, 2013, 04:41:14 AM
I thought Syria was giving up their Chem Weapons after yesterday.
I thought you were giving up weed and getting a job, but look how that turned out.
Title: Re: Syrian rebels plan chem attack on Israel from Assad-controlled territories
Post by: Kwon_2 on September 11, 2013, 05:02:39 AM
Is that for when you fart and accidentally shit yourself, so you go to a bathroom and get some toilet paper to put in your underwear. Or so I've been told.
Could be :D

Nah, it's actually Man-portable air-defense systems

Model Tibur Bz
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/97/Sa-7.jpg/485px-Sa-7.jpg)
Title: Re: Syrian rebels plan chem attack on Israel from Assad-controlled territories
Post by: Rudee on September 11, 2013, 01:43:55 PM
Syrian Air-Defence Force

40,000 active personnel
Two Air Defence Division HQ
Twenty-five Air Defence Brigade
One hundred thirty Air Defence Batteries

25 teams defense (130 batteries) Including:

Self-propelled
62 batteries:
11 teams - 27 batteries - SA-6 Gainful (PU SAM 2K12 Square);
14 Battery - SA-8 Gecko (PU SAM 9K33 Osa);
12 Battery - SA-22 Greyhound (96K6 Pantsyr S1E);
9 Battery - Buk-M2

Towed
11 teams - 60 batteries with SA-2 Guideline (CP-75 Dvina / S-75M Volga) and SA-3 Goa (S-125 Neva / S-125M Pechora) (Being upgraded);

Two SAM regiment with SA-5 Gammon(in each brigade to 2 divisions for 2 batteries each).
Four SAM battalion
Eight Static/Shelter SAM batteries

Two independent SAM Regiment
Four SAM batteries with SA-8
Four SAM batteries with SA-10

320 Lavochkin CP-75 Dvina/S-75M Volga (SA-2) launchers - under upgrade
148 Isayev S-125 Neva/S-125M Pechora (SA-3) launchers - under upgrade
48 S-200 Angara (SA-5) launchers
200 2K12 Kub (SA-6) launchers
60 9K33 Osa (SA-8) launchers
20 9K31 Strela-1 (SA-9) launchers
35 9K35 Strela-10 (SA-13) launchers
48 9K37 Buk (SA-11) launchers
N/A 9M311-1M Tunguska (SA-19) launchers
50 Pantsir-S1 (SA-22) launchers
N/A S-300 (missile) launchers


5 golden rings!.....

4 calling birds
3 French hens
2 turtle doves
1 partridge in a pear tree
Title: Re: Syrian rebels plan chem attack on Israel from Assad-controlled territories
Post by: Wiggs on September 11, 2013, 01:45:40 PM

5 golden rings!.....

4 calling birds
3 French hens
2 turtle doves
1 partridge in a pear tree

lol
Title: Re: Syrian rebels plan chem attack on Israel from Assad-controlled territories
Post by: Trapper_Slapper on September 11, 2013, 02:07:31 PM

5 golden rings!.....

4 calling birds
3 French hens
2 turtle doves
1 partridge in a pear tree

 ;D
Title: Re: Syrian rebels plan chem attack on Israel from Assad-controlled territories
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on September 11, 2013, 02:09:43 PM
Good hope israel gets hit. It would be entertaining at the very least
Title: Re: Syrian rebels plan chem attack on Israel from Assad-controlled territories
Post by: Papper on September 11, 2013, 02:55:10 PM

5 golden rings!.....

4 calling birds
3 French hens
2 turtle doves
1 partridge in a pear tree

hahahaahhah  :D excellence
Title: Re: Syrian rebels plan chem attack on Israel from Assad-controlled territories
Post by: Teutonic Knight on September 11, 2013, 03:32:53 PM
Could be :D

Nah, it's actually Man-portable air-defense systems

Model Tibur Bz
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/97/Sa-7.jpg/485px-Sa-7.jpg)

Oh, how outdated Soviet era parade uniform, but is good very flammable fabric & standing pose
is "impressive", but wrist watch is something "special"  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Syrian rebels plan chem attack on Israel from Assad-controlled territories
Post by: Natural Man on September 11, 2013, 06:09:22 PM
To be honnest, the whole area is a mess.

http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/syria/articles/20130911.aspx

One day, americans , rich westernized arabs and jews will have to nuke the fucking place once and for all.
Title: Syrian Rebels of Peace
Post by: Kwon_2 on September 14, 2013, 11:24:44 AM
Al Qaeda Backed Syrian Rebels Decapitate Young Boy– Photo Credit: TIME Magazine

We have been providing you all coverage on the Syrian civil war for quite some time. Atrocities surface every so often.

We first realized the barbaric face of the Free Syrian Army when one member cut the heart of a soldier out and proceeded to eat it.

The rebel claimed the act in the name of Allah. Now, we see yet another crime against humanity that is a regular practice of the rebels.


http://benswann.com/al-qaeda-backed-syrian-rebels-decapitate-young-boy-warning-graphic/
Title: Re: Syrian Rebels of Peace
Post by: BigRo on September 14, 2013, 11:45:00 AM
not a word of condemnation for this sort of thing from Bareback Osama and co.
Title: Re: Syrian Rebels of Peace
Post by: Kwon_2 on September 14, 2013, 12:05:43 PM
not a word of condemnation for this sort of thing from Bareback Osama and co.

Only if Oil is involved...
Title: Re: Syrian Rebels of Peace
Post by: youandme on September 14, 2013, 12:07:39 PM
Go to liveleak, has tons of FSA stuff.
Title: Re: Syrian rebels plan chem attack on Israel from Assad-controlled territories
Post by: AbrahamG on September 14, 2013, 04:05:49 PM
Good hope israel gets hit. It would be entertaining at the very least

X2!  Fuck israel.  Fuck conservatives.
Title: Re: Syrian Rebels of Peace
Post by: Irongrip400 on September 14, 2013, 04:10:18 PM
Al Qaeda Backed Syrian Rebels Decapitate Young Boy– Photo Credit: TIME Magazine

We have been providing you all coverage on the Syrian civil war for quite some time. Atrocities surface every so often.

We first realized the barbaric face of the Free Syrian Army when one member cut the heart of a soldier out and proceeded to eat it.

The rebel claimed the act in the name of Allah. Now, we see yet another crime against humanity that is a regular practice of the rebels.


http://benswann.com/al-qaeda-backed-syrian-rebels-decapitate-young-boy-warning-graphic/

And these are the folks we want to help? Fuck that place. I wish, just for once, that we would stay the fuck out of stuff so that I can board a plane and go over seas without fear of getting blown up because I'm American.
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not? Repercussions?
Post by: 240 is Back on September 14, 2013, 04:56:51 PM
Obama used war rhetoric/talk and got a BETTER result than would have been seen with US missiles and boots wrecking the place, and the weapons being moved to 50 different locations, or blown up/spread out, sold to our enemies, etc etc.

Did obama get pwned?  WHo knows.   They're turning over the weapons to be destroyed, didn't cost us any troop lives or military use.  The rebels don't take over. 

If htis isn't a win - tell us a better outcome.   war?  Let him continue and cause a refugee crisis?  honestly, I didn't see another outcome that was better.
Title: Re: Syrian rebels plan chem attack on Israel from Assad-controlled territories
Post by: Teutonic Knight on September 14, 2013, 06:38:11 PM
X2!  Fuck israel.  Fuck conservatives.

All of you Arabs a softcocks, Jews a fucking everyone since 1947  ::)
and all you can do is calling for Allah help  ::)

Like it or not Israel is the only democratic country in that universe.
+ we don't see any Arabs pussy in mini skirts or topless on the beaches  ;D
Title: Re: Syrian Rebels of Peace
Post by: Parker on September 14, 2013, 06:51:54 PM
not a word of condemnation for this sort of thing from Bareback Osama and co.
yes, because we  see and hear everything that happens in the White House. Like we know what intel and pictures that he sees as well.
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not? Repercussions?
Post by: Mr Nobody on September 14, 2013, 07:57:30 PM
They don't even lift, lights out if we come down on them.
Title: Re: Syrian rebels plan chem attack on Israel from Assad-controlled territories
Post by: Natural Man on September 14, 2013, 08:21:36 PM
X2!  Fuck israel.  Fuck conservatives.
haha the irony ..."abraham".  Some real winners on here.
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not? Repercussions?
Post by: Natural Man on September 14, 2013, 08:23:21 PM
"obama" doesnt lead shit, megacorp bosses do. He's just their spokesperson.
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not? Repercussions?
Post by: Mr Nobody on September 14, 2013, 08:25:40 PM
We will beat the piss out of them. They have no game cheap ass weapons we'll drop them in 3 days.
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not? Repercussions?
Post by: thebrink on September 14, 2013, 09:26:10 PM
"obama" doesnt lead shit, megacorp bosses do. He's just their spokesperson.

oh,
if only our beloved  political "intellectuals" would realize this
Title: Re: Syrian rebels plan chem attack on Israel from Assad-controlled territories
Post by: Teutonic Knight on September 14, 2013, 10:36:37 PM
haha the irony ..."abraham".  Some real winners on here.

"Prophet" ? where is he now ;D another Arabs war :P
Let me guess  ::) who could be next, Iran & overthrow of Ayatollahs  :D
Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not? Repercussions?
Post by: 240 is Back on September 15, 2013, 10:03:16 AM
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Title: Re: The Syria Attack - Will it be justified or not? Repercussions?
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 15, 2013, 11:08:39 AM
f

 ;D
Title: I support Assad in Syria: death to the rebels + any US soldier with them
Post by: theredeemer on September 19, 2013, 02:42:48 AM
These US supported rebels are over 50 percent Jihadist/Osama Bin laden types, raping little girls, raping nuns, killing little girls and nuns, killing "non Muslims", wiping out entire villages.

So to hell with the USA or any government that goes in there or gives these people money.  You deserve to die.  Your leaders deserve to die.
Title: Re: I support Assad in Syria: death to the rebels + any US soldier with them
Post by: vinnydountsnyc on September 19, 2013, 08:14:20 AM
Correct we are always on the wrong side same thing in the Serb war