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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Darren Avey on August 29, 2013, 10:59:02 AM
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These guys actually have the right to an opinion on this more than most of you badasses behind your keyboards!
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Mike was a beast he would still be scary to fight very dangerous human being
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If he caught someone early then he might win, if he got taken down, it would be all over for him.
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Standing? A prime Tyson would overwhelm any UFC fighter. If he got taken down it would be over within 2 minutes.
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well I am a BB in Judo and BJJ and he would still be a night mare to deal with
he was strong, fast, on ped, etc. not an easy fight for any one
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well I am a BB in Judo and BJJ and he would still be a night mare to deal with
he was strong, fast, on ped, etc. not an easy fight for any one
All you would have to do is tackle him.
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prime ronnie could pummel current mike
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mirko was never any good at wrestling but he was able to brutally beat olympic wrestlers in nhb and mma
not always so easy to take down a strong, fast, athletic, on ped, etc., person down
if mirko could do that, so could mike
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Too many variables
Are we talking time-machining Tyson from his prime-days and now placing him here, sending him in the UFC from the getgo without any MMA-training?
Are we talking a Tyson that was born in the 90s, and are now in his 20s?
Are we talking about current old Tyson?
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a 19/20 year old mike Tyson?
you don't think mike grew up street fighting?
anyone dumb enough to come that close to him to attempt to take him down with his SPEED and strength at at at that age would get KTFO.
not even a consideration.
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actually hold on I'll find out mikes answer.
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Didn't watch or listen. Wondering how a boxer would do in UFC is like wondering how a soccer player would do in the NFL. Stupid comparison. They are not the same sport. Now, how would any UFC fighter do in the boxing ring against a prime Tyson?
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I would just set sidestep as he come bum-rush style, trip him up and get behind him and just ram him into the floor and saying "get down mother fucker" as I would repeatedly smash his head into the floor. If only it was allowed in mma.
No, actually I would do it anyway, if he wanted to fight me.
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It's amazing to look back 20 years later and realize what an animal that dude was. Literally dropping fools in seconds. Guy could've been the greatest, just couldn't keep his head together.
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It's amazing to look back 20 years later and realize what an animal that dude was. Literally dropping fools in seconds. Guy could've been the greatest, just couldn't keep his head together.
he could have been 'that one' who comes into a sport once in a life time, like jordan Gretzky etc. so dominant there could never be a near successor or valid comparison.
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take it for what it's worth. it's a legit txt. if you guys want to call bullshit up to you.
'yes he says he would get fucked up. he says he would get fucked up on a take down. he says however in his prime if someone (heavyweight and about 5'11- 6'0+) tried taking him down on their fastest day an uppercut would put them in a permanent coma with no gloves. gloves in boxing are so fucking heavy and big and yet people have died in the ring and get knocked the fuck out daily. he did however say that had he went and studied with Gracie's for 2 years to defend he would force standup game never go for submission and at worst case scenario force a boring fight until someone was dumb enough to get close enough to get punched. Lenox would have had an unstoppable jab but couldn't move around a ring, same for all heavyweights but mike. never has the sport outside of Floyd been that conditioner..Floyd doesn't have power and mikes was frightening'
cheers
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take it for what it's worth. it's a legit txt. if you guys want to call bullshit up to you.
'yes he says he would get fucked up. he says he would get fucked up on a take down. he says however in his prime if someone (heavyweight and about 5'11- 6'0+) tried taking him down on their fastest day an uppercut would put them in a permanent coma with no gloves. gloves in boxing are so fucking heavy and big and yet people have died in the ring and get knocked the fuck out daily. he did however say that had he went and studied with Gracie's for 2 years to defend he would force standup game never go for submission and at worst case scenario force a boring fight until someone was dumb enough to get close enough to get punched. Lenox would have had an unstoppable jab but couldn't move around a ring, same for all heavyweights but mike. never has the sport outside of Floyd been that conditioner..Floyd doesn't have power and mikes was frightening'
cheers
He would have been a nightmare if he had the Ice Man's take down defense. The next question would have been the gas tank. Also defense against heavy leg kicks.
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er whos that text from
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Didn't watch or listen. Wondering how a boxer would do in UFC is like wondering how a soccer player would do in the NFL. Stupid comparison. They are not the same sport. Now, how would any UFC fighter do in the boxing ring against a prime Tyson?
These are real life UFC fighters, not people that live fantasy lives of training with Manny Steward and James Toney
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exactly... chuck and mirko would sprawl and brawl very hard to beat them in their primes
mike would be hard to beat too
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er whos that text from
uh, some random guy ive never met who read my mind and txtd me anonymously.
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The next question would have been the gas tank.
::)
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if he could learn td defence with his hand speed and punching power he would kill these guys , with the 4oz gloves no one could trade with him
he would make anderson silva his anal bitch,
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Imagine if he had solid Takedown defence and quick reaction on his knees, then he'd go places.
Nobody would be able to take him down and he would pulverize people standing up
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Is this guy wearing black sweat pants?
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I'm not convinced he could beat the top guys in the sport because he's a little short so I think the top heavy guys with lots of different games/styles could potentially beat Tyson. (IIRC, the much bigger Lennox Lewis was able to negate Tyson's game after a short time when both trained together for a while when both were very young.)
I think a prime Couture would tire him out in the clinch.
I think a prime Mirko could keep him out of punching range long enough to land a debilitating kick (to a few different places).
I think Fedor could beat Tyson in a number of ways but would probably use an upper body throw and then blast him out with GnP.
I think Big Nog could pull guard and sub him.
I think Ubereem (not Overeem) would knee him to bolivia.
I think Cain would just outwork him.
I think that, in general, people overrate Tyson on the basis of how quickly he dealt with cans because of his quickness and power. When he fought top boxers, he didn't do so well. Pretty much the equivalent of Mirko in MMA.
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I'm not convinced he could beat the top guys in the sport because he's a little short so I think the top heavy guys with lots of different games/styles could potentially beat Tyson. (IIRC, the much bigger Lennox Lewis was able to negate Tyson's game after a short time when both trained together for a while when both were very young.)
I think a prime Couture would tire him out in the clinch.
I think a prime Mirko could keep him out of punching range long enough to land a debilitating kick (to a few different places).
I think Fedor could beat Tyson in a number of ways but would probably use an upper body throw and then blast him out with GnP.
I think Big Nog could pull guard and sub him.
I think Ubereem (not Overeem) would knee him to bolivia.
I think Cain would just outwork him.
I think that, in general, people overrate Tyson on the basis of how quickly he dealt with cans because of his quickness and power. When he fought top boxers, he didn't do so well. Pretty much the equivalent of Mirko in MMA.
all the above is only relevant if mike doesn't hit them before they use the above techniques to beat him
his punching power with 4oz gloves would do horrific damage
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all the above is only relevant if mike doesn't hit them before they use the above techniques to beat him
his punching power with 4oz gloves would do horrific damage
Maybe he'd just do horrific damage to his hands. Like when Belfort fought Sakuraba in Pride. Did not turn out well for Belfort.
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all the above is only relevant if mike doesn't hit them before they use the above techniques to beat him
his punching power with 4oz gloves would do horrific damage
Yup IF he lands it doesnt fear well for all those names Mentioned... if he doesnt land....well there you go its not rocket science what would go down next However then again lets flip it for a Moment how well would ANY of those names fear in a BOXING RING with a Prime Tyson?....same thing it wouldnt fear well for all the UFC stars
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Yup IF he lands it doesnt fear well for all those names Mentioned... if he doesnt land....well there you go its not rocket science what would go down next However then again lets flip it for a Moment how well would ANY of those names fear in a BOXING RING with a Prime Tyson?....same thing it wouldnt fear well for all the UFC stars
none of them would make it out of the first round
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Maybe he'd just do horrific damage to his hands. Like when Belfort fought Sakuraba in Pride. Did not turn out well for Belfort.
You saw what happened when he and Mitch Green tangled in a fight outside with no gloves. Mike;s hand was broken/fractured (I believe), but Mitch Green's face was effed up...his face looked like Picasso painting.
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yeah thats why these types of Debates are a Moot point....Tyson was a Boxer...IMO @ one time one of the Best ever his hand speed, foot speed, Punching power and Defence was Exceptional for any Era it really was... all people like too remember is when he lost to Douglas, Holyfeild, Lewis etc these guys were ether too young too recall actually watching a PRIME TYSON in the 1980s or just "jumped" on the he was always "over rated" bandwagon once Mike started going down hill...the top UFC guys are Awesome Mixed martial arts guys.... really well rounded in Different Disciplines of course the smart money when be on them throwing a Prime Tyson in with them in a MMA cage.... the same will always be said throwing a Prime Cain, Santos, Overeem, etc in with Tyson in a Boxing ring between 1985-1989
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You saw what happened when he and Mitch Green tangled in a fight outside with no gloves. Mike;s hand was broken/fractured (I believe), but Mitch Green's face was effed up...his face looked like Picasso painting.
oh absolutely... ;D ;D ;D i recall watching the news when that happened....green saying something like...He "sucker punched" me...then run away like a Girl.... ::) ::) ::) hes a sissy.....Mike was "scared" of me he fights "scared"...LOL went somthing like that
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These are real life UFC fighters, not people that live fantasy lives of training with Manny Steward and James Toney
Your still mad? LOL, Your whole life is an online fantasy, loser.
yeah thats why these types of Debates are a Moot point....Tyson was a Boxer...IMO @ one time one of the Best ever his hand speed, foot speed, Punching power and Defence was Exceptional for any Era it really was... all people like too remember is when he lost to Douglas, Holyfeild, Lewis etc these guys were ether too young too recall actually watching a PRIME TYSON in the 1980s or just "jumped" on the he was always "over rated" bandwagon once Mike started going down hill...the top UFC guys are Awesome Mixed martial arts guys.... really well rounded in Different Disciplines of course the smart money when be on them throwing a Prime Tyson in with them in a MMA cage.... the same will always be said throwing a Prime Cain, Santos, Overeem, etc in with Tyson in a Boxing ring between 1985-1989
Pretty much the truth. Except that Tyson was in his prime when he lost to Douglas, he was just not prepared.
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The OP is most likely as much as a keyboard warrior as those he criticizes, if he has a verifiable, pro record in any combat sport, I'll publicly apologize. Tyson has commented himself, on camera, how he would do or would have done in MMA both in his prime and with/without specialized training (in his prime he may have KO'd mid tier guys w/o specialized training but would lose badly on the ground to any decent fighter). I would saylet's just believe Mike's own self observations about his chances in the past, but debating it doesn't make one a coward or keyboard warrior IMO
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Nice to see UFC fighters show respect to Mike - whether he'd be good at MMA or not. Boxers are too insecure about MMA, constantly telling how much UFC fighter suck and how they'd easily beat them. Pussies.
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Where are you, the USA i assume? Walk into a boxing club and call them pussies. Please.
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Maybe he'd just do horrific damage to his hands. Like when Belfort fought Sakuraba in Pride. Did not turn out well for Belfort.
wow, vitor really sucks doesn't he.
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Where are you, the USA i assume? Walk into a boxing club and call them pussies. Please.
You're not getting he point, are you dumb ass? They're not pussies as fighters, they're just being pussies / punks for trash talking MMA which makes them look very insecure. As a matter of fact, Mike Tyson is the only boxer I can think of saying nice things about MMA.
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In his prime Tyson was an amazing boxer. When he got involved with Hollywood and started drinking, drugs and limited training he went down hill. There is no MMA guy that could box Tyson in his prime. Tyson doesn't wrestle so he would get taken out in MMA. He doesn't know anything about sprawls, reversals, arm bars, chokes, guard or anything needed on the ground. What would be scary would be if instead of starting off as a boxer he trained for MMA. When he was 21 there was no MMA in this country until Rorian and Royce brought it here.
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even on the ground, a prime tyson was a world class athlete that would have learned basic skills quickly. And, if he could get a guy to sit still long enough on the ground, his punches would still fly vertically and knock some people out.
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I have watched countless UFC guys mess up and get caught coming in by FAR less skilled punchers than a prime Tyson. Standing Tyson would simply KO them. If taken down they would overwhelm him.
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To take tyson down you ll be stepping well into his punching range, no one alive can take a flush shot from Tyson in 4oz mitts
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In his prime Tyson was an amazing boxer. When he got involved with Hollywood and started drinking, drugs and limited training he went down hill. There is no MMA guy that could box Tyson in his prime. Tyson doesn't wrestle so he would get taken out in MMA. He doesn't know anything about sprawls, reversals, arm bars, chokes, guard or anything needed on the ground. What would be scary would be if instead of starting off as a boxer he trained for MMA. When he was 21 there was no MMA in this country until Rorian and Royce brought it here.
the guy wouldn't be allowed in the UFC in his prime.... with his combination of speed and power he would be way too dangerous.