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This didn't use to be the case. The neutering of America's boys and young men.
How to make schools better for boys?
http://m.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2013/09/how-to-make-school-better-for-boys/279635/ (http://m.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2013/09/how-to-make-school-better-for-boys/279635/)
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Video Games.
Girls are so fucking hyper aggressive these days, while boys sit on their asses for 15 hours straight playing video games
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They are weak minded, "schizoid", "paranoid" because of their conditionings.
A lack of love and trust from caregivers. Then all life long you realize people are just defeding their own interests , survival, and that only the strongest, smartest, able to adapt and beat the competition -in mind games of in physical fights- survive.
Quick reminder: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominance_hierarchy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominance_hierarchy)
We are animals so all our behaviors and thoughts patterns are geared toward killing or getting killed, psychologically or physically. We take pleasure , success, in beating others, reducing their odds of survival or in dominating them to increase our owns odds of survival.
When you have to settle in a new environment, people calculate what are you strenghts and weaknesses and how they can use you in order to insure their own survival. If you represent a threat to their survival they ll do their best to wipe you out by all means, at all costs. People who think alike will unite to push outside those who represent a danger to their way of thinking and living . At work it's all about mindgames and psychological warfare. In so called civlized modern societies, people dont kill each others with weapons but with words, and money. Still it's all about killing or getting killed, daily.
I believe people who were manipulated emotionally very early, who were exposed to destructive behaviors and thoughts patterns from their caregivers end cynical and paranoid simply because they soon realized the true nature of man, his animal nature, and that all #######4 and so called intelligence, feelings, put aside, we re just animals doing their best to insure their survival first and foremost, nothing more to see or understand.
I believe every single human ends "schizophrenic" if he lives long enough to reach a very advanced age. Basically schizoid people just age psychologically faster than others. But look at old people. They know the rules of the game, they know we re just animals and that everything else is #######4. They know it's all bout dominating or being dominated. A schizophrenic person just realizes this sooner than most people who were cuddled by caregivers. Still, even these people who were "loved" more, do their best to beat the competition daily and are taught they deserve to survive more than others. Some people are just stronger because they were taught, conditioned that way. Others
were abandoned, ignored, despised by those who spawned them into this life. Most find a way to adapt and survive, and everyone wants power, fame, control , domination over others and spend their life trying to find someone to dominate, something to master, a skill that will insure people will need them and justify their existence.
What is "aging", getting old? Understanding, the strategies of survival of others life forms, and how you insured your own survival cherry picking strategies of survival you ve seen, read about, heard of, then internalized to create your own system of survival / personality.
I think that "mental illnesses" are mental abnormalities, but no illnesses. I think absolutely every single human on earth could be characterized by the description given in these books. I think it's safer to cure yourself reading the Bible than buying pills that make people richer. Psys, pills sellers, need "mentally ill" people to insure their own survival. Most of the time if you spend enough time with them, you realize they are as "mentally ill" than you, they just...hide it better.
I also dont like the idea of labeling yourself into a category, which ultimately leads you to stop wanting to improve by yourself and find others ways to survive. Dont trap , enslave yourself.
You re just a person who suffered, suffers, and need to find people who think alike and would give you love in return for what you d bring them. As simple as that. You re not "ill". You re "hurt". If you find people like you, everything starts to get better as you re now in a "group" defending it s own interests and survival.
What drives people crazy / mad is their realization of how others people in power use everything under the sun to hold their dominating position at all costs even if it means destroying others psyches. But if you find people who dont want to destroy or control you, dominate you without giving you anything in return, everything immediately starts to get a lot more healthy.
Again a Bible is a lot cheaper than any pill. What if all schizoid people were in fact christ like figures, and if everyone else, the "normal" ones, were in fact the real evil ones? Think about it. I have yet to know a so called schizoid person who couldnt be incredibly productive and creative, given the right amount of love and support.
I hope you guys realize most succesful persons in this world are the defintion of schizoid individuals, they just found a way to adapt it and to use it to dominate others, at work for example. We re all animals who could kill if necessary to insure their survival, some are just better at hiding it.
Well fact is when you re successful at insuring your survival or the survival of your family/offspring, nothing else matters much. It's enough to make you happy. Because that's all we re supposed to do anyway, survive and replicate, dominate instead of being dominated. We all have to rise in the ladder and wish our offsprings would dominate others instead of being dominated by them once adults. You can never escape this basic animal reality. Now, some people have a hard time dealing with this fact, our inherent animality. They wish we could all be living like carebears in a perfect world. That's because they re immature, probably raised by single mothers. Fathers didnt inculcate them what life is truly about; nice stuff, and not so nice stuff. Then there is a need for religion, spirituality, to morally justify the way we choose to survive, to give a meaning to what we do, to be able to determinate the usefullness of our actions and beliefs.
Schizophrenia etc are just labels to trap weak minded people.
Everyone is this or that, some are just better at controlling themselves often because they were raised by better caregivers who gave them more confidence, but make no mistakes we re all animals trying to insure our own survival first and foresmot even if at the expense of someone else survival/interests.
What s the difference between a "successful" (dominating) person and a non successful person? Both have to insure their survival adapting and killing instead of getting killed, one is just better at doing so and commit less mistakes because she /he was better prepared, conditioned, taught, to survive by his caregivers, while the other was left mostly alone without direction, guidance, advises from his own caregivers hence the fact he commits more mistakes and suffers more. He falls for all the traps while the better prepared kid, young adult, avoid them which in return increases his confidence even more.
"Loving" your children mean teaching them everything you know, learned, acquired, to insure their survival at the expense of the competition if necessary. If you truly love your offspring, well, your genes in them and if you truly want them to evolve, get stronger and survive, you ll make sure they beat the competition and you wont abandon them in front of a TV while trying to forget the reason why you even spawned them in the firstplace.
Love= interests and survival. You like then eventually love who shares the same interests as yours.
"mentally ill" people have always been hurt by caregivers in the firstplace and realizing they re trapped by dominant people who manipulate them and others they end "schizoid" etc. whatever the label they re given by the assholes who want to make them shut their mouths. It's always psychological/physical/both abuse from people you were suposed to trust but who destroyed you in their own interest(s). These people have all reasons to want you to feel like you re responsible, trapped inside their web. They want you to label yourself as this or that, because they know that at this moment you ll stop fighting for the truth and survival. It's always scary to see so called "care givers" being worshiped by dumb people who dont realize the very same care givers are 9 times out of ten the ones responsibles for the suffering of the "handicapped/ "trapped" one in the first place. wont even mentions mothers and father who use/abuse drugs or do nasty crap before conceiving kids and then when the kids turn out to have abnormalities, nobody is looking at the real responsibles. Most of the times they re even taken in pity while they are the ones who created all the suffering, then use the suffering person they created to get attention and pity from others.
So called "paranoid" "schizoid" "personalities are just people who are scared of what other evil people can do to them and others. When you sense someone think something bad or plan to do hurt you, it's not paranoia, its normal instinct. It's especially hard when it's someone you trust. My father and mother threatened me all childhood long with emotional games and as a result i have become "hyper sensititve" as an adult. The fact my mother smoked during pregnancy didnt help.
So called schzoid, paranoid personalities are just people who need more calm, tranquility, a safe and predictable environment because their alarm system is constantly on"high" alert. It's probably embeded biologically in their brains.
They re somewhat "christ like" personalities who see, understand, all the evil intentions in others but cannot reveal, expose them , because absolutely everyone is somewhat evil, you d have to spend your life criticizing others and their evil ways.
So you have to keep it shut and do just like everyone else is doing; hide how you survive, hide how you kill slowly, others, instead of being killed by them. There are just powerful people who are used to kill without getting caught, and....others.
Ultimately, these characteristics desrcibed and labeled as "mental illnesses" are just strategies of survival EVERYONE as an animal uses daily. Everyone is paranoid. Everyone is "schizoid" and pretend to like, understand, people they are forced to deal with daily to earn a salary and insure their survival. We are all pretending to be something else different than animals, but make no mistake, we re no "better" than them. Some people are just more peaceful and want a quieter life while others are used to live in fear and violence and often reproduce this once adults to insure their own survival. The big fat bully who was taught to be violent by his big fat father will strive, the skinny son of a single mother kid who was not taught anything, was abandonned by his father who left, and who watched too many carebears animes is going to get crushed both mentally and physically.
Many "fragile" "deep" personnalities are able to understand what lies behind people stares and thoughts. They see the real animal intentions behind all actions. They end cynical, but their cynicism is entirely justified. Better be gullible and naive if you want to be happy. If you cant be naive or gullible, then you better find a very peaceful, quiet, calm place where to live where there wont be much stress and attempts by others humans being to dominate you daily. This is why you have ermits who leave everything because they know they re too smart to be able to stand the daily life in cities full of people constantly harassing you , mainly psychologically nowadays as physical violence is somewhat forbidden as long as the economic stability is assured. Be sure that in times of economic collapse for example, people would throw themselves at each others throats in a matter of days for resources, survival. Fact is if you want to reduce your stress you need very few, significant, peaceful and predictable relationships with people who think alike and need you to insure your survival, living in cities full of comeptition and "enemies" all trying to dominate each others is a receipe for disaster especially for someone who is weak minded , or might I say, who sees too many things and cant stand what he s seeing anymore.
The funny is tho, that whenshit hits the fan, it's the very few people who left cities who have higher odds of survival.
Again, EVERYONE is schizoid and paranoid, everyone has this "traits" of "personality", some are just stronger, more powerful, safer for various reasons , conditionings they often didnt even choose in the first place, and as a result have an easier life, while others are weaker for the same reasons they often didnt choose and when trying to fight back the oppression of those who want to enslave them fail simply because they re not armed enough compared to the competition.
Soon, there will be a massive cleaning. Those who will survive tho, will still have no other daily occupation but to insure their survival outthinking, outnumbering, outpowering the randomly generated "competition" thrown at them. It will never end.
This, ladies and gentlemen is called, Life, also known as struggle for survival. Whatever the way you survive, the only point is to survive. The real question is, is there any morality, in all of this, or is morality just an invention we created. Isnt morality rules we developed which are supposed to protect the species from extremist behaviors , so one could survive decently playing the society, game's rules and hope to give something to his offspring. We re a "schizophrenic" species, pretending to be saints, when in fact we re just animals.
Weak people have no other goal but to get stronger, or they re going to disapear. And strong people have no other goal but to stay at the top defending their position at all costs.
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Public schools are shit, but parents have to take it on the chin too. The fucking schools aren't a replacement for real parents. My son didnt want to learn to read until I have him regular Star Wars books. He struggled, and would ask me the meaning of words every 15 seconds. But now he's ten with the literacy of an 18 year old.
Math in school? Total beta bullshit. Gave him an ammunition reloading manual and showed him IN REAL LIFE what those numbers mean and what they do and voila, he gets it.
I will teach him about fluid dynamics by blowing a bunch of shit up. No problemo.
Public schools are pure shit, but today's parents are almost as bad.
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Public schools are shit, but parents have to take it on the chin too. The fucking schools aren't a replacement for real parents. My son didnt want to learn to read until I have him regular Star Wars books. He struggled, and would ask me the meaning of words every 15 seconds. But now he's ten with the literacy of an 18 year old.
Math in school? Total beta bullshit. Gave him an ammunition reloading manual and showed him IN REAL LIFE what those numbers mean and what they do and voila, he gets it.
I will teach him about fluid dynamics by blowing a bunch of shit up. No problemo.
Public schools are pure shit, but today's parents are almost as bad.
today parents are forced to work 40 hours a weak each to hope to access to ownership. They cant focus on their kids anymore like they could in the past.
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today parents are forced to work 40 hours a weak each to hope to access to ownership. They cant focus on their kids anymore like they could in the past.
I work 50+, lift, and still manage to be "dad".
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More of this is needed.......
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More of this is needed.......
Nope, hell no!
You know what she was doing, not only was she screwing the kid---she picked him because he was a unpopular loner, but she would show him stuff that her husband gave her. As in a way saying that the boy couldn't provide for her, and all he was, was a distraction. Basically with the boy's self esteem to boast her own self worth. The sex was a psychological weapon of sorts.
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would have worked for me......
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It was believed by the academic intelligentsia that because males have an innate advantages in our society that its appropriate to move attention away from boys and toward females, particularly when it comes to science and math. As Parker noted, it's worked out beautifully(sarcasm).
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Technology is ruining everyone.
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Youngins in general nowadays are as thick as a divers boot.
Too much laying around in their own filth playing xbox and beatin off to crumpled porn mags stashed under their matress. Filthy little twats.
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Youngins in general nowadays are as thick as a divers boot.
Too much laying around in their own filth playing xbox and beatin off to crumpled porn mags stashed under their matress. Filthy little twats.
eeer... old people die and they ll simply "mature" and take their place, same old story.. life keeps going on.
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Technology is ruining everyone.
Boom
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Technology is ruining everyone.
With or without technology, we re animals first and foremost.
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I blame the parents for the mess of a generation we see before us. Those parents being people in my age range. This is what happens when you have a Laissez-faire style of parenting. You get little assholes and skanks. And they will breed even worse assholes and skanks. Unless something drastic happens people will have to redefine the term, "liberal" cause it'll get worse with each generation.
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I blame the parents for the mess of a generation we see before us. Those parents being people in my age range. This is what happens when you have a Laissez-faire style of parenting. You get little assholes and skanks. And they will breed even worse assholes and skanks. Unless something drastic happens people will have to redefine the term, "liberal" cause it'll get worse with each generation.
you must hate yourself then because you described yourself to a T.
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would have worked for me......
Now we're talkin, Mike! :D
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helicopter parenting.
My parents gave me total freedom to do anything drugs, girls as long as my gpa never dipped below a 3.7 and as long as it was under their roof. the ability to smoke weed and fuck is a power motivator
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helicopter parenting.
My parents gave me total freedom to do anything drugs, girls as long as my gpa never dipped below a 3.7 and as long as it was under their roof. the ability to smoke weed and fuck is a power motivator
as long as it works -allow offspring to survive/dominate/reproduce- it's not a problem, the problem is kids who are unable to adapt and survive. But again as i said it previously, old people die, younger ones take their place, they just have to hold on long enough.
Wars are created by rich old men who want to kill the younger, dumber competition in order to increase their odds to stay at the top longer. You better be nice to at least one young dude, if you dont want everyone to screw you once you re too old to lead with an iron fist. In most families tho, mindgames and money are enough to lead without using violence tho.
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I blame everyone but the boys! If we hold them accountable for their failures now, how will we deflect accountability later?
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What is being a successful boy/teen/man anyway? Being able to dominate everyone else with ease? Well, not sure older men really want sons and young men to dominate them. It's in their interest to have a weaker competition from the youngest.
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helicopter parenting.
My parents gave me total freedom to do anything drugs, girls as long as my gpa never dipped below a 3.7 and as long as it was under their roof. the ability to smoke weed and fuck is a power motivator
From my experience its the total opposite. Letting a child do whatever they want without providing structure makes it difficult for a child to learn restraint.
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you must hate yourself then because you described yourself to a T.
Right, because you know me. ::)
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Right, because you know me. ::)
Everyone knows you here, newflash you spent years exposing details of your private life. But hey, you re not a bad dude, just a lost soul trying to find his way to more hapiness, domination. Maybe find a good short, fat black christian woman and a job would help you? You cant really hope for any better except if you got back in shape , you would then maybe be able to get a non fat one. But you d also have to have steady incomes to lure them into falling for you. You ll probably have to settle for a lower standard than your previous white woman as she obviously dumped you cause she felt she was worth "better".
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From my experience its the total opposite. Letting a child do whatever they want without providing structure makes it difficult for a child to learn restraint.
BALANCE... a bit of both... never go for the extremes, only once in a while to find your limits but dont get addicted to it...
You need structures, but not too firm, kids also need space. Just the right amount of both. Fact is to build the best man you need a rich stable happy family that will focus on elevating its offspring in society. Beauty also help... But hey lots of people survive being ugly, or poor, too. We all somewhat have a chance, if we re realistic about what we can have or cant.
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BALANCE... a bit of both... never go for the extremes, only once in a while to find your limits but dont get addicted to it...
You need structures, but not too firm, kids also need space. Just the right amount of both. Fact is to build the best man you need a rich stable happy family that will focus on elevating its offspring in society. Beauty also help... But hey lots of people survive being ugly, or poor, too. We all somewhat have a chance, if we re realistic about what we can have or cant.
I absolutely agree. It's not necessary to crush individuality in order to provide structure. Good post.
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Baby Boomer parenting.
My parents gave me total freedom to do anything drugs, girls as long as my gpa never dipped below a 3.7 and as long as it was under their roof. the ability to smoke weed and fuck is a power motivator
Fixed, being their kids friend...
I went to school with a lot of people like this...
Today, their little kids curse them, wife disrespects them (the men), the women are acting they still are in their early 20s or they are divorced. Kids have no or little structure..
And the men, neutered...
But hey, good grades...kid's need structure and boundaries...parents who don't set that are not parents. And when said kid is an adult and gets in trouble with the law, it's not their fault they say. They are always the victim. And the law is trying to stop them from having fun...
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From my experience its the total opposite. Letting a child do whatever they want without providing structure makes it difficult for a child to learn restraint.
they also feel like there are no boundaries , until they hit many walls and limits as adults; then they fell cheated. Now you have rich kids who hit walls but dad and mommy are there to pay...
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they also feel like there are no boundaries , until they hit many walls and limits as adults; then they fell cheated. Now you have rich kids who hit walls but dad and mommy are there to pay...
But, what happens is that the kids sinking deeper and deeper into an ocean of no return. Drugs, alcohol, depression. Ironically, these are the walls they cannot escape, a self built wall of self destruction.
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But, what happens is that the kids sinking deeper and deeper into an ocean of no return. Drugs, alcohol, depression. Ironically, these are the walls they cannot escape, a self built wall of self destruction.
Pretty hard to tell for sure what we choose and what we dont choose in our lifetime. I'd say we dont choose 99% of what happen, we only choose the way we react to it depending of our morality and spirituality. Having the will to live equals having the will to fight as living equals fighting. Still, at some point you have to find a quiet, stressless predictable life routine which doesnt involve too much fighting, or you would burn out early, especially as you get into your 30s. You have to keep your stamina just to make sure you ll still be here to raise your kids.
Do we choose to slowly trap ourselves into psychological prisons, or is it a result of our past and present environments ? One thing is sure, the world population grows bigger, but so does anger and frustration, in all social classes. Most of the time the genuinely happiest people are people who dont question what they re doing and simply do it blindly, ie kill instead of being killed at all costs, or the ones who submit to a superior authority and dont want to lead; if things go bad well it's not their fault, it's the authority they placed their faith in who failed. It's quite reassuring and easier to live that way.
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Now we're talkin, Mike! :D
right? ;)
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right? ;)
Hi mike, what is the plan for the rest of your life? inherit your mom's house once she s dead, then find a new a woman, marry her, have some kids? Are you still a trainer?
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what is that post that one guy here always makes? the one that says young boys that have...
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Hi mike, what is the plan for the rest of your life? inherit your mom's house once she s dead, then find a new a woman, marry her, have some kids? Are you still a trainer?
join the carnival
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Anyone who "struggless" at school is dumb as a bag of rocks, there's no hope for him. Learning math through counting bullets? Please, are you fucking serious? Math is something so natural to young inteligent mind that boys start playing with numbers as 5 year olds. I remember being around 5-7 playing with numbers on paper and trying to come up with answers why if we add two odd numbers we get even numer and so on. If you never had this then well, there's no hope. Being like this is by no means any guarantee of success or indicator that you are anything special. If school was a breeze to you consider yourself normal.
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would have worked for me......
For sure could use the apple like the Clinton cigar :D
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Everyone knows you here, newflash you spent years exposing details of your private life. But hey, you re not a bad dude, just a lost soul trying to find his way to more hapiness, domination. Maybe find a good short, fat black christian woman and a job would help you? You cant really hope for any better except if you got back in shape , you would then maybe be able to get a non fat one. But you d also have to have steady incomes to lure them into falling for you. You ll probably have to settle for a lower standard than your previous white woman as she obviously dumped you cause she felt she was worth "better".
Wigs tell this guy to stay in his lane. C'Mon Man
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Feminism hasn't helped much either. Log onto YouTube and watch videos by TheIgnoredGender and ManWomanMyth for reference.
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they also feel like there are no boundaries , until they hit many walls and limits as adults; then they fell cheated. Now you have rich kids who hit walls but dad and mommy are there to pay...
Again, I agree. This is how feelings of entitlement are inculcated in a child. These kids grow up and as you said, they hit many walls in life because they don't understand that the world doesn't think they are as special as their family has led them to believe.
Parker and Uberman killing it in this thread.
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Anyone who "struggless" at school is dumb as a bag of rocks, there's no hope for him. Learning math through counting bullets? Please, are you fucking serious? Math is something so natural to young inteligent mind that boys start playing with numbers as 5 year olds. I remember being around 5-7 playing with numbers on paper and trying to come up with answers why if we add two odd numbers we get even numer and so on. If you never had this then well, there's no hope. Being like this is by no means any guarantee of success or indicator that you are anything special. If school was a breeze to you consider yourself normal.
That's because of your environment. I believe you said that your parents were mathematicians...which helps a lot. I hated math from a very early age, but loved reading and was very verbal. Even with a mother who was a math teacher. Plus, I could draw from a very early age. So, for me I can't understand people not knowing that drawing is like reading, a learned skill. Some are just better than others.
But, one's environment and how one is wired...their template can shape certain outcomes.
And people who are good at math, tend to have a view that their is one, singular solution for everything. When it reality, that is not always the case. Their maybe one better solution . There maybe a solution that is better now, and then there is the solution that is better later. And then there are multiple solutions for the same problem. Why, because that is life, and life has many variables, life cannot be mapped or a solution figured out like a math problem...where that solution is IS IT.
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Education has regressed a lot the last 20 years. Boys are not "hard wired" to sit in straight rows and be quiet and passive for 6 hours a day.
I know people will say "it used to be that way", but that is not true. Society had expectations of young men- to be leaders, provide for their families, protect their families.... in essence be a '' real man". These days are long gone.
Feminism has hurt our society in some ways, especially the message towards boys and their traditional proven throughout history roles in society. Girls are not equal to boys in all things as boys are not superior to girls in all things. When you put the two together and they work TOGETHER then the genders promote each other instead of hindering each other.
America has become 'wussified' like the French and a lot of Europe. The days of real men as role models seem to be fading. Today if a male- any person actually- is somewhat "pro American", proud of their country and it's accomplishments- and there have been MANY! They are called closed minded, racist , intolerant and the like.
There are basically no absolutes anymore in society. There has to be ABSOLUTES, a line that won't be crossed etc... but the education system, media, and society in general preaches just the opposite, which has been devastating.