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Why Are So Many Boys Struggling In School?
« on: September 14, 2013, 08:16:32 AM »
This didn't use to be the case. The neutering of America's boys and young men.

How to make schools better for boys?
http://m.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2013/09/how-to-make-school-better-for-boys/279635/

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Re: Why Are So Many Boys Struggling In School?
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2013, 08:21:22 AM »
Video Games.

Girls are so fucking hyper aggressive these days, while boys sit on their asses for 15 hours straight playing video games

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Re: Why Are So Many Boys Struggling In School?
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2013, 08:21:24 AM »
They are weak minded, "schizoid", "paranoid" because of their conditionings.

A lack of love and trust from caregivers. Then all life long you realize people are just defeding their own interests , survival, and that only the strongest, smartest, able to adapt and beat the competition -in mind games of in physical fights- survive.

Quick reminder:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominance_hierarchy

We are animals so all our behaviors and thoughts patterns are geared toward killing or getting killed, psychologically or physically. We take pleasure , success, in beating others, reducing their odds of survival or in dominating them to increase our owns odds of survival.

When you have to settle in a new environment, people calculate what are you strenghts and weaknesses and how they can use you in order to insure their own survival. If you represent a threat to their survival they ll do their best to wipe you out by all means, at all costs. People who think alike will unite to push outside those who represent a danger to their way of thinking and living . At work it's all about mindgames and psychological warfare. In so called civlized modern societies, people dont kill each others with weapons but with words, and money. Still it's all about killing or getting killed, daily.

I believe people who were manipulated emotionally very early, who were exposed to destructive behaviors and thoughts patterns from their caregivers end cynical and paranoid simply because they soon realized the true nature of man, his animal nature, and that all #######4 and so called intelligence, feelings, put aside, we re just animals doing their best to insure their survival first and foremost, nothing more to see or understand.

I believe every single human ends "schizophrenic" if he lives long enough to reach a very advanced age. Basically schizoid people just age psychologically faster than others. But look at old people. They know the rules of the game, they know we re just animals and that everything else is #######4. They know it's all bout dominating or being dominated. A schizophrenic person just realizes this sooner than most people who were cuddled by caregivers. Still, even these people who were "loved" more, do their best to beat the competition daily and are taught they deserve to survive more than others. Some people are just stronger because they were taught, conditioned that way. Others
were abandoned, ignored, despised by those who spawned them into this life. Most find a way to adapt and survive, and everyone wants power, fame, control , domination over others and spend their life trying to find someone to dominate, something to master, a skill that will insure people will need them and justify their existence.
What is "aging", getting old? Understanding, the strategies of survival of others life forms, and how you insured your own survival cherry picking strategies of survival you ve seen, read about, heard of, then internalized to create your own system of survival / personality.

I think that "mental illnesses" are mental abnormalities, but no illnesses. I think absolutely every single human on earth could be characterized by the description given in these books. I think it's safer to cure yourself reading the Bible than buying pills that make people richer. Psys, pills sellers, need "mentally ill" people to insure their own survival. Most of the time if you spend enough time with them, you realize they are as "mentally ill" than you, they just...hide it better.

I also dont like the idea of labeling yourself into a category, which ultimately leads you to stop wanting to improve by yourself and find others ways to survive. Dont trap , enslave yourself.

You re just a person who suffered, suffers, and need to find people who think alike and would give you love in return for what you d bring them. As simple as that. You re not "ill". You re "hurt". If you find people like you, everything starts to get better as you re now in a "group" defending it s own interests and survival.

What drives people crazy / mad is their realization of how others people in power use everything under the sun to hold their dominating position at all costs even if it means destroying others psyches. But if you find people who dont want to destroy or control you, dominate you without giving you anything in return, everything immediately starts to get a lot more healthy.

Again a Bible is a lot cheaper than any pill. What if all schizoid people were in fact christ like figures, and if everyone else, the "normal" ones, were in fact the real evil ones? Think about it. I have yet to know a so called schizoid person who couldnt be incredibly productive and creative, given the right amount of love and support.

I hope you guys realize most succesful persons in this world are the defintion of schizoid individuals, they just found a way to adapt it and to use it to dominate others, at work for example. We re all animals who could kill if necessary to insure their survival, some are just better at hiding it.

 Well fact is when you re successful at insuring your survival or the survival of your family/offspring, nothing else matters much. It's enough to make you happy. Because that's all we re supposed to do anyway, survive and replicate, dominate instead of being dominated. We all have to rise in the ladder and wish our offsprings would dominate others instead of being dominated by them once adults. You can never escape this basic animal reality. Now, some people have a hard time dealing with this fact, our inherent animality. They wish we could all be living like carebears in a perfect world. That's because they re immature, probably raised by single mothers. Fathers didnt inculcate them what life is truly about; nice stuff, and not so nice stuff. Then there is a need for religion, spirituality, to morally justify the way we choose to survive, to give a meaning to what we do, to be able to determinate the usefullness of our actions and beliefs.

Schizophrenia etc are just labels to trap weak minded people.
Everyone is this or that, some are just better at controlling themselves often because they were raised by better caregivers who gave them more confidence, but make no mistakes we re all animals trying to insure our own survival first and foresmot even if at the expense of someone else survival/interests.

What s the difference between a "successful" (dominating) person and a non successful person? Both have to insure their survival adapting and killing instead of getting killed, one is just better at doing so and commit less mistakes because she /he was better prepared, conditioned, taught, to survive by his caregivers, while the other was left mostly alone without direction, guidance, advises from his own caregivers hence the fact he commits more mistakes and suffers more. He falls for all the traps while the better prepared kid, young adult, avoid them which in return increases his confidence even more.

"Loving" your children mean teaching them everything you know, learned, acquired, to insure their survival at the expense of the competition if necessary. If you truly love your offspring, well, your genes in them and if you truly want them to evolve, get stronger and survive, you ll make sure they beat the competition and you wont abandon them in front of a TV while trying to forget the reason why you even spawned them in the firstplace.

Love= interests and survival. You like then eventually love who shares the same interests as yours.

"mentally ill" people have always been hurt by caregivers in the firstplace and realizing they re trapped by dominant people who manipulate them and others they end "schizoid" etc. whatever the label they re given by the assholes who want to make them shut their mouths. It's always psychological/physical/both abuse from people you were suposed to trust but who destroyed you in their own interest(s). These people have all reasons to want you to feel like you re responsible, trapped inside their web. They want you to label yourself as this or that, because they know that at this moment you ll stop fighting for the truth and survival. It's always scary to see so called "care givers" being worshiped by dumb people who dont realize the very same care givers are 9 times out of ten the ones responsibles for the suffering of the "handicapped/ "trapped" one in the first place. wont even mentions mothers and father who use/abuse drugs or do nasty crap before conceiving kids and then when the kids turn out to have abnormalities, nobody is looking at the real responsibles. Most of the times they re even taken in pity while they are the ones who created all the suffering, then use the suffering person they created to get attention and pity from others.

So called "paranoid" "schizoid" "personalities are just people who are scared of what other evil people can do to them and others. When you sense someone think something bad or plan to do hurt you, it's not paranoia, its normal instinct. It's especially hard when it's someone you trust. My father and mother threatened me all childhood long with emotional games and as a result i have become "hyper sensititve" as an adult. The fact my mother smoked during pregnancy didnt help.
So called schzoid, paranoid personalities are just people who need more calm, tranquility, a safe and predictable environment because their alarm system is constantly on"high" alert. It's probably embeded biologically in their brains.
They re somewhat "christ like" personalities who see, understand, all the evil intentions in others but cannot reveal, expose them , because absolutely everyone is somewhat evil, you d have to spend your life criticizing others and their evil ways.
So you have to keep it shut and do just like everyone else is doing; hide how you survive, hide how you kill slowly, others, instead of being killed by them. There are just powerful people who are used to kill without getting caught, and....others.


Ultimately, these characteristics desrcibed and labeled as "mental illnesses" are just strategies of survival EVERYONE as an animal uses daily. Everyone is paranoid. Everyone is "schizoid" and pretend to like, understand, people they are forced to deal with daily to earn a salary and insure their survival. We are all pretending to be something else different than animals, but make no mistake, we re no "better" than them. Some people are just more peaceful and want a quieter life while others are used to live in fear and violence and often reproduce this once adults to insure their own survival. The big fat bully who was taught to be violent by his big fat father will strive, the skinny son of a single mother kid who was not taught anything, was abandonned by his father who left, and who watched too many carebears animes is going to get crushed both mentally and physically.

Many "fragile" "deep" personnalities are able to understand what lies behind people stares and thoughts. They see the real animal intentions behind all actions. They end cynical, but their cynicism is entirely justified. Better be gullible and naive if you want to be happy. If you cant be naive or gullible, then you better find a very peaceful, quiet, calm place where to live where there wont be much stress and attempts by others humans being to dominate you daily. This is why you have ermits who leave everything because they know they re too smart to be able to stand the daily life in cities full of people constantly harassing you , mainly psychologically nowadays as physical violence is somewhat forbidden as long as the economic stability is assured. Be sure that in times of economic collapse for example, people would throw themselves at each others throats in a matter of days for resources, survival. Fact is if you want to reduce your stress you need very few, significant, peaceful and predictable relationships with people who think alike and need you to insure your survival, living in cities full of comeptition and "enemies" all trying to dominate each others is a receipe for disaster especially for someone who is weak minded , or might I say, who sees too many things and cant stand what he s seeing anymore.
The funny is tho, that whenshit hits the fan, it's the very few people who left cities who have higher odds of survival.

Again, EVERYONE is schizoid and paranoid, everyone has this "traits" of "personality", some are just stronger, more powerful, safer for various reasons , conditionings they often didnt even choose in the first place, and as a result have an easier life, while others are weaker for the same reasons they often didnt choose and when trying to fight back the oppression of those who want to enslave them fail simply because they re not armed enough compared to the competition.

Soon, there will be a massive cleaning. Those who will survive tho, will still have no other daily occupation but to insure their survival outthinking, outnumbering, outpowering the randomly generated "competition" thrown at them. It will never end.

This, ladies and gentlemen is called, Life, also known as struggle for survival. Whatever the way you survive, the only point is to survive. The real question is, is there any morality, in all of this, or is morality just an invention we created. Isnt morality rules we developed which are supposed to protect the species from extremist behaviors , so one could survive decently playing the society, game's rules and hope to give something to his offspring. We re a "schizophrenic" species, pretending to be saints, when in fact we re just animals.
Weak people have no other goal but to get stronger, or they re going to disapear. And strong people have no other goal but to stay at the top defending their position at all costs.


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Re: Why Are So Many Boys Struggling In School?
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2013, 08:26:25 AM »
Public schools are shit, but parents have to take it on the chin too. The fucking schools aren't a replacement for real parents. My son didnt want to learn to read until I have him regular Star Wars books. He struggled, and would ask me the meaning of words every 15 seconds. But now he's ten with the literacy of an 18 year old.

Math in school? Total beta bullshit. Gave him an ammunition reloading manual and showed him IN REAL LIFE what those numbers mean and what they do and voila, he gets it.

I will teach him about fluid dynamics by blowing a bunch of shit up. No problemo.

Public schools are pure shit, but today's parents are almost as bad.

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Re: Why Are So Many Boys Struggling In School?
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2013, 08:27:46 AM »
Public schools are shit, but parents have to take it on the chin too. The fucking schools aren't a replacement for real parents. My son didnt want to learn to read until I have him regular Star Wars books. He struggled, and would ask me the meaning of words every 15 seconds. But now he's ten with the literacy of an 18 year old.

Math in school? Total beta bullshit. Gave him an ammunition reloading manual and showed him IN REAL LIFE what those numbers mean and what they do and voila, he gets it.

I will teach him about fluid dynamics by blowing a bunch of shit up. No problemo.

Public schools are pure shit, but today's parents are almost as bad.
today parents are forced to work 40 hours a weak each to hope to access to ownership. They cant focus on their kids anymore like they could in the past.

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Re: Why Are So Many Boys Struggling In School?
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2013, 08:32:59 AM »
today parents are forced to work 40 hours a weak each to hope to access to ownership. They cant focus on their kids anymore like they could in the past.

I work 50+, lift, and still manage to be "dad".

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Re: Why Are So Many Boys Struggling In School?
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2013, 08:38:29 AM »
More of this is needed.......

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Re: Why Are So Many Boys Struggling In School?
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2013, 08:51:16 AM »
More of this is needed.......
Nope, hell no!
You know what she was doing, not only was she screwing the kid---she picked him because he was a unpopular loner, but she would show him stuff that her husband gave her. As in a way saying that the boy couldn't provide for her, and all he was, was a distraction. Basically with the boy's self esteem to boast her own self worth. The sex was a psychological weapon of sorts.

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Re: Why Are So Many Boys Struggling In School?
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2013, 09:05:55 AM »
would have worked for me......

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Re: Why Are So Many Boys Struggling In School?
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2013, 09:29:58 AM »
It was believed by the academic intelligentsia that because males have an innate advantages in our society that its appropriate to move attention away from boys and toward females, particularly when it comes to science and math.  As Parker noted, it's worked out beautifully(sarcasm).
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Re: Why Are So Many Boys Struggling In School?
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2013, 09:54:31 AM »
Technology is ruining everyone.

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Re: Why Are So Many Boys Struggling In School?
« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2013, 10:20:09 AM »
Youngins in general nowadays are as thick as a divers boot.
Too much laying around in their own filth playing xbox and beatin off to crumpled porn mags stashed under their matress. Filthy little twats.

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Re: Why Are So Many Boys Struggling In School?
« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2013, 10:25:07 AM »
Youngins in general nowadays are as thick as a divers boot.
Too much laying around in their own filth playing xbox and beatin off to crumpled porn mags stashed under their matress. Filthy little twats.
eeer... old people die and they ll simply "mature" and take their place, same old story.. life keeps going on.

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Re: Why Are So Many Boys Struggling In School?
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Re: Why Are So Many Boys Struggling In School?
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2013, 10:26:03 AM »
Technology is ruining everyone.
With or without technology, we re animals first and foremost.

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Re: Why Are So Many Boys Struggling In School?
« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2013, 10:26:22 AM »
I blame the parents for the mess of a generation we see before us. Those parents being people in my age range. This is what happens when you have a Laissez-faire style of parenting. You get little assholes and skanks. And they will breed even worse assholes and skanks. Unless something drastic happens people will have to redefine the term, "liberal"  cause it'll get worse with each generation.
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Re: Why Are So Many Boys Struggling In School?
« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2013, 10:26:55 AM »
I blame the parents for the mess of a generation we see before us. Those parents being people in my age range. This is what happens when you have a Laissez-faire style of parenting. You get little assholes and skanks. And they will breed even worse assholes and skanks. Unless something drastic happens people will have to redefine the term, "liberal"  cause it'll get worse with each generation.
you must hate yourself then because you described yourself to a T.

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Re: Why Are So Many Boys Struggling In School?
« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2013, 10:30:21 AM »
would have worked for me......

Now we're talkin, Mike!    :D


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Re: Why Are So Many Boys Struggling In School?
« Reply #18 on: September 14, 2013, 10:45:07 AM »
helicopter parenting.

My parents gave me total freedom to do anything drugs, girls as long as my gpa never dipped below a 3.7 and as long as it was under their roof. the ability to smoke weed and fuck is a power motivator

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Re: Why Are So Many Boys Struggling In School?
« Reply #19 on: September 14, 2013, 10:47:58 AM »
helicopter parenting.

My parents gave me total freedom to do anything drugs, girls as long as my gpa never dipped below a 3.7 and as long as it was under their roof. the ability to smoke weed and fuck is a power motivator
as long as it works -allow offspring to survive/dominate/reproduce- it's not a problem, the problem is kids who are unable to adapt and survive. But again as i said it previously, old people die, younger ones take their place, they just have to hold on long enough.

Wars are created by rich old men who want to kill the younger, dumber competition in order to increase their odds to stay at the top longer. You better be nice to at least one young dude, if you dont want everyone to screw you once you re too old to lead with an iron fist. In most families tho, mindgames and money are enough to lead without using violence tho.

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Re: Why Are So Many Boys Struggling In School?
« Reply #20 on: September 14, 2013, 10:48:58 AM »

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Re: Why Are So Many Boys Struggling In School?
« Reply #21 on: September 14, 2013, 10:55:50 AM »
I blame everyone but the boys!  If we hold them accountable for their failures now, how will we deflect accountability later?
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Re: Why Are So Many Boys Struggling In School?
« Reply #22 on: September 14, 2013, 11:03:59 AM »
What is being a successful boy/teen/man anyway? Being able to dominate everyone else with ease? Well, not sure older men really want sons and young men to dominate them. It's in their interest to have a weaker competition from the youngest.

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Re: Why Are So Many Boys Struggling In School?
« Reply #23 on: September 14, 2013, 11:28:05 AM »
helicopter parenting.

My parents gave me total freedom to do anything drugs, girls as long as my gpa never dipped below a 3.7 and as long as it was under their roof. the ability to smoke weed and fuck is a power motivator

From my experience its the total opposite.  Letting a child do whatever they want without providing structure makes it difficult for a child to learn restraint.
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Re: Why Are So Many Boys Struggling In School?
« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2013, 11:31:27 AM »