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Most Americans disapprove of the way Obama is handling his job, the poll suggests, with 53 percent unhappy with his performance and 37 percent approving of it.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=230635128
Of course, the headline of the AP article was placing all the blame on the GOP and there was only that little sentence about the jokeinchief's approval rating. As the partial shutdown marches on and the "president" continues to insist that he will not negotiate with the GOP, it will get worse for him.
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Most Americans disapprove of the way Obama is handling his job, the poll suggests, with 53 percent unhappy with his performance and 37 percent approving of it.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=230635128
Of course, the headline of the AP article was placing all the blame on the GOP and there was only that little sentence about the jokeinchief's approval rating. As the partial shutdown marches on and the "president" continues to insist that he will not negotiate with the GOP, it will get worse for him.
You realize what the approval rating of congress is right?
It';s getting worse for the GOP, the numbers show this, they have the lowest approval ever, in the history of Gallup.
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Haha necro must be stamping his feet in anger up there in canada ;D
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axvo said this was irrelevant. I guess its only irrelevant if I post it no matter how many times I've been right since 2008.
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axvo said this was irrelevant. I guess its only irrelevant if I post it no matter how many times I've been right since 2008.
It means much to the "president". All he does is watch polls.
I just posted this because I know it must bother most libtards.
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Seeing how Obama isn't running for reelection again, I highly doubt he worries about what his poll numbers are.
The Republicunts on the other hand.... LOL! What's their approval rating again?
"HEHEHEHEH" ::)
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Seeing how Obama isn't running for reelection again, I highly doubt he worries about what his poll numbers are.
The Republicunts on the other hand.... LOL! What's their approval rating again?
"HEHEHEHEH" ::)
This shows you are clearly an idiot.
If this continues he will be a lame duck president EARLIER than any president before him and won't get any other legislations through. It will also teach any other Democratic president after him to be ready to compromise rather than to act as a dictator.
You are a libtard. Your vision is narrow and short sighted.
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The only idiot I see is the "retard" that is on a new thread posting spree of topics lacking substance. No surprise there. Your entire "debate" skills is nothing more than regurgitating talking points other people have made without possessing the cognitive skills to interpret what is said for yourself. So you just parrot what you hear. Again, no surprise.
Obama doesn't have to compromise. Not exactly in a position where he is forced to do so. He is not up for reelection. Who is? Oh.... those Republicunts. You know... the ones that 67% of the nation blame for this mess.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/09/government-shutdown-republicans-poll_n_4069254.html
"HEHEHEHEHEH" Perhaps you should post less and pray harder. Not that it is going to do your polls any good.
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This shows you are clearly an idiot.
If this continues he will be a lame duck president EARLIER than any president before him and won't get any other legislations through. It will also teach any other Democratic president after him to be ready to compromise rather than to act as a dictator.
You are a libtard. Your vision is narrow and short sighted.
Not at all, he will be known as the president who saved the auto-industry and other major industries, captured bin laden, and introduced the US to the rest of the civilized world in terms of healthcare.
Act as a dictator? he has compromised at every turn you anus. He won' negotiate something that he frankly doesn't have to negotiate about whilst under the threat of economic ruin. He invited all of the members of the GOP to the whitehouse and none would go. It's so obvious they cause the shutdown and are using it to score political points. To bad it's backfiring and you party is being destroyed from the inside out.
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Not at all, he will be known as the president who saved the auto-industry and other major industries, captured bin laden, and introduced the US to the rest of the civilized world in terms of healthcare.
Act as a dictator? he has compromised at every turn you anus. He won' negotiate something that he frankly doesn't have to negotiate about whilst under the threat of economic ruin. He invited all of the members of the GOP to the whitehouse and none would go. It's so obvious they cause the shutdown and are using it to score political points. To bad it's backfiring and you party is being destroyed from the inside out.
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Only true idiots - as evident by retardario and the board crybaby - believe that a law that was passed by Congress, declared constitutional by the Supreme Court (with a Republican majority), reconfirmed as popular by a majority vote in a national reelection to uphold or repeal it is not a negotiable matter or considered "right". But shutting down the government and attempting to hold the nation hostage until they give in to a crybaby tantrum is ok. ::) And the herd further thins itself out....
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He's not negotiating. The repeals fail, the poison pills fail, the supreme court upholds it and yet there must be a debate. If Obama doesn't budge on this (despite all the other attempts being failures) he will be a dictator, why can't they have everything they want?
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The gayness of Obama's posture is too good. Looks like a real gay boi.
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Had to be seeing how 333 only has man crushes on fellow twinks.
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Not at all, he will be known as the president who saved the auto-industry and other major industries, captured bin laden, and introduced the US to the rest of the civilized world in terms of healthcare.
Act as a dictator? he has compromised at every turn you anus. He won' negotiate something that he frankly doesn't have to negotiate about whilst under the threat of economic ruin. He invited all of the members of the GOP to the whitehouse and none would go. It's so obvious they cause the shutdown and are using it to score political points. To bad it's backfiring and you party is being destroyed from the inside out.
And low information libtards like you will take this delusion and lie to your kids and grand kids about what a "great president" this lying turd was. Lets breakdown your little delusional list, shall we?
1. The auto industry is still on the hook for over $25billion to their bond holders.
2. He didn't "capture" anyone. If he had his way nothing would have ever happend if he repealed the Bush policies. It was because of the Bush policies that were kept in place that lead to the killing of Bin Laden. Thank Bush and Seal Team 6.
3. Healthcare is a disaster in other countries that Obama is trying to implement. It's starting out as a COMPLETE disaster here as everyone else BUT the left can see. What makes him think it's going to work here if it's fucking up economies in other countries??
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And low information libtards like you will take this delusion and lie to your kids and grand kids about what a "great president" this lying turd was. Lets breakdown your little delusional list, shall we?
1. The auto industry is still on the hook for over $25billion to their bond holders.
Point stands
2. He didn't "capture" anyone. If he had his way nothing would have ever happend if he repealed the Bush policies. It was because of the Bush policies that were kept in place that lead to the killing of Bin Laden. Thank Bush and Seal Team 6.
Didn't know bush was responsible while not in office, nor did I realize it wasn't actually Obama who shot him
3. Healthcare is a disaster in other countries that Obama is trying to implement. It's starting out as a COMPLETE disaster here as everyone else BUT the left can see. What makes him think it's going to work here if it's fucking up economies in other countries??
What? like where, France ? the place with the best healthcare in the world? The US spends out the ass and has poor care. How is it a COMPLETE DISASTER? software issues?
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Maybe people are starting to wake up? His abysmal approval rating is a direct reflection of his lousy job performance. The man is a terrible president.
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Most Americans disapprove of the way Obama is handling his job, the poll suggests, with 53 percent unhappy with his performance and 37 percent approving of it.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=230635128
Of course, the headline of the AP article was placing all the blame on the GOP and there was only that little sentence about the jokeinchief's approval rating. As the partial shutdown marches on and the "president" continues to insist that he will not negotiate with the GOP, it will get worse for him.
Wow...that's going to hurt him in his re-election... ::)
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necrosis, please post your proof that the US healthcare sucks
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necrosis, please post your proof that the US healthcare sucks
Well 33 is clearly mentally ill and is running around, more like sitting around, posting about Obama for 5 years straight...
How good could it be?
Listen cupcake, it's great, If I want a surgery or opinion the US has the best doctors. Problem is that they can only see so many people, the rest of the people, without the big bucks get poor health care. This is a reflection of the bigger issue which is inequality in America,
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Well 33 is clearly mentally ill and is running around, more like sitting around, posting about Obama for 5 years straight...
How good could it be?
Listen cupcake, it's great, If I want a surgery or opinion the US has the best doctors. Problem is that they can only see so many people, the rest of the people, without the big bucks get poor health care. This is a reflection of the bigger issue which is inequality in America,
so basically you have no proof just misinformed opinions...GOT IT!!!
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so basically you have no proof just misinformed opinions...GOT IT!!!
Well what type of proof tomy? We did this same thing a while back and some asshole started posting unrelated formulas and figures. I don't want to go down that road. In what way are you stating US healthcare is good?
It has poor infant mortality, high expenditure per person compared to other countries, high rates of chronic illness, ok life span (might be mistaken) and a few other key issues. No doubt the best tech and care is in the states. France is very good. Regardless, the system you had didn't work and has to be changed.
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Maybe people are starting to wake up? His abysmal approval rating is a direct reflection of his lousy job performance. The man is a terrible president.
What does the GOPs rating reflect then? Other than they are dying.
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Well what type of proof tomy? We did this same thing a while back and some asshole started posting unrelated formulas and figures. I don't want to go down that road. In what way are you stating US healthcare is good?
It has poor infant mortality, high expenditure per person compared to other countries, high rates of chronic illness, ok life span (might be mistaken) and a few other key issues. No doubt the best tech and care is in the states. France is very good. Regardless, the system you had didn't work and has to be changed.
id say quantitative proof that you have to support your claims
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Wow...that's going to hurt him in his re-election... ::)
It will hurt him in trying to pass his remaining socialist legislations.
Stick to selling bee pollen, politics is not your forte.
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What does the GOPs rating reflect then? Other than they are dying.
The issue is the president's dismal approval rating. What does that say about him?
Regarding Congressional approval ratings, they always suck. Not really news.
Regarding the GOP dying, what do you think about Silverman projecting the GOP to take the Senate in 2014?
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The issue is the president's dismal approval rating. What does that say about him?
Regarding Congressional approval ratings, they always suck. Not really news.
Regarding the GOP dying, what do you think about Silverman projecting the GOP to take the Senate in 2014?
POTUS is doing much better than all other branches of the government and especially better than Republican and Teabaggers
BTW - you know what else is up in the polls from last month......Obamacare
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The issue is the president's dismal approval rating. What does that say about him?
Regarding Congressional approval ratings, they always suck. Not really news.
Regarding the GOP dying, what do you think about Silverman projecting the GOP to take the Senate in 2014?
What does it say about him? His rating is higher than the Repubs. So it must say a lot. Mainly the nation views him more favorable than the GOP. 67% blame the GOP for the shut down, not the POTUS.
Let's face it, right now the death of a close relative passes Republicans in the approval rating.
Regarding Silverman, doesn't matter what he predicts unless the Repubs do a 180 degree turn and start pandering to the moderates. Cause catering to those far right wackos has really done a stellar job for them so far huh?
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What does it say about him? His rating is higher than the Repubs. So it must say a lot. Mainly the nation views him more favorable than the GOP. 67% blame the GOP for the shut down, not the POTUS.
Let's face it, right now the death of a close relative passes Republicans in the approval rating.
Regarding Silverman, doesn't matter what he predicts unless the Repubs do a 180 degree turn and start pandering to the moderates. Cause catering to those far right wackos has really done a stellar job for them so far huh?
The fact his approval rating is higher than members of Congress doesn't say anything. I'm pretty sure presidential approval ratings are always higher than Congress.
There has been a remarkable drop in the president's popularity and job performance numbers, which he definitely earned. He really sucks at that whole being president thing.
I haven't followed Silverman's career, but he nailed the 2012 election. His prediction cuts against your claim that the Republican party is dead. So does the fact Republicans hold the House, the majority of governorships, and the majority of state legislatures.
How do you reconcile your claim that the Republican party is dead with the House, governorships, state legislatures, and projection to take the Senate?
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The fact his approval rating is higher than members of Congress doesn't say anything. I'm pretty sure presidential approval ratings are always higher than Congress.
There has been a remarkable drop in the president's popularity and job performance numbers, which he definitely earned. He really sucks at that whole being president thing.
I haven't followed Silverman's career, but he nailed the 2012 election. His prediction cuts against your claim that the Republican party is dead. So does the fact Republicans hold the House, the majority of governorships, and the majority of state legislatures.
How do you reconcile your claim that the Republican party is dead with the House, governorships, state legislatures, and projection to take the Senate?
Ya public opinion is lower then dog shit for congress but the GOP are going to pick up more seats. Is this the same polls used for the Romney LANDSLIDE.
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The fact his approval rating is higher than members of Congress doesn't say anything. I'm pretty sure presidential approval ratings are always higher than Congress.
There has been a remarkable drop in the president's popularity and job performance numbers, which he definitely earned. He really sucks at that whole being president thing.
I haven't followed Silverman's career, but he nailed the 2012 election. His prediction cuts against your claim that the Republican party is dead. So does the fact Republicans hold the House, the majority of governorships, and the majority of state legislatures.
How do you reconcile your claim that the Republican party is dead with the House, governorships, state legislatures, and projection to take the Senate?
By simple fact instead of making inroads into the women, minority, moderate and independent votes they instead cater to the fringe wackos.
Good plan. It's worked great so far.
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By simple fact instead of making inroads into the women, minority, moderate and independent votes they instead cater to the fringe wackos.
Good plan. It's worked great so far.
They have literally been wrong at every turn. Wrong on fast and furious, wrong on the gov shutdown, wrong on Benghazi, the irs, Obama being Kenyan etc.
The worst thing they can do now is ignore the public, they will have to answer for the mess they are creating and to the people they pissed off which is about 72%of the country and an 8% (?) approval rating, the lowest in history. However, they are picking up seats like last elections landslide victory, where they lost ground everywhere.
Another GOP landslide coming. They have there own internal polls
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hahahahahaha....
seriously though. fuck bush. fuck bush often...
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necrosis, please post your proof that the US healthcare sucks
took me 20 sec
http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2013/01/09/168976602/u-s-ranks-below-16-other-rich-countries-in-health-report
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took me 20 sec
http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2013/01/09/168976602/u-s-ranks-below-16-other-rich-countries-in-health-report
Slowpoke! :)
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"But the new report places more stress on nonmedical shortcomings.
Many people might be surprised to learn, for instance, that for more than half the males who die before age 50, the cause of death has nothing to do with disease — and is therefore not amenable to reduction through medical care."
perhaps you retards should read before you post!!!
sorry morons, still no proof...
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"Much of the poor health outcomes and premature mortality is due to other nonmedical causes — such as behavioral choices like drug and alcohol abuse, a built environment that favors auto travel at the expense of exercise, and dietary habits."
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Slowpoke! :)
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"Much of the poor health outcomes and premature mortality is due to other nonmedical causes — such as behavioral choices like drug and alcohol abuse, a built environment that favors auto travel at the expense of exercise, and dietary habits."
"But the new report places more stress on nonmedical shortcomings.
Many people might be surprised to learn, for instance, that for more than half the males who die before age 50, the cause of death has nothing to do with disease — and is therefore not amenable to reduction through medical care."
perhaps you retards should read before you post!!!
sorry morons, still no proof...
bump for the uneducated foreign retards....
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bump for the uneducated foreign retards....
does this mean you dont want to play anymore whork?
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Slowpoke! :)
Hey, retardo. Why don't you respond to the statement below since you agree with whork's stupidity.
"Much of the poor health outcomes and premature mortality is due to other nonmedical causes — such as behavioral choices like drug and alcohol abuse, a built environment that favors auto travel at the expense of exercise, and dietary habits."
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took me 20 sec
http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2013/01/09/168976602/u-s-ranks-below-16-other-rich-countries-in-health-report
The same request I make to you, god of idiocy.
"Much of the poor health outcomes and premature mortality is due to other nonmedical causes — such as behavioral choices like drug and alcohol abuse, a built environment that favors auto travel at the expense of exercise, and dietary habits."
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Is Necrosis still trying to pose as an MD despite the fact that he has Asperger's Syndrome and doesn't leave the house?
Funny stuff. No wonder Aspy boy and the other degenerates on here seem to get along so well.
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Ya public opinion is lower then dog shit for congress but the GOP are going to pick up more seats. Is this the same polls used for the Romney LANDSLIDE.
Silverman predicted an Obama win.
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By simple fact instead of making inroads into the women, minority, moderate and independent votes they instead cater to the fringe wackos.
Good plan. It's worked great so far.
I guess it has worked great so far, given that they control the majority state legislatures and governorships, hold the House, and are projected to take the Senate. You'd think if they were dying they would be losing ground at the federal and state levels.
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It starts at the national level first. You know... "trickle down" effect that your party harps on.
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It starts at the national level first. You know... "trickle down" effect that your party harps on.
If it starts at the national level, then Democrats should hold the House and Senate. Instead, Republicans hold the House and are projected to take the Senate.
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Projections mean nothing until they occur. Wishful thinking however.
Meanwhile, Dems have the WH and Senate. So you may want to try again.
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I guess it has worked great so far, given that they control the majority state legislatures and governorships, hold the House, and are projected to take the Senate. You'd think if they were dying they would be losing ground at the federal and state levels.
who is projecting that?
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Projections mean nothing until they occur. Wishful thinking however.
Meanwhile, Dems have the WH and Senate. So you may want to try again.
Not wishful thinking on my part. Just relaying the projection by the guy who was most accurate in 2012.
I'm not trying anything. You're the one who said the Republican party is dead or dying. I was asking for facts to support your opinion. And the facts don't support your opinion. Democrats lost the House two years after Obama took office. If the party was dying, that wouldn't have happened, especially if--as you claim--it starts at the federal level.
I also think Republicans gained seats in the Senate since Obama took office, which again shouldn't have happened if the party is dead or dying.
The only thing you can point to is Obama winning the past two presidential elections. But that no more signals the death of the Republican party than Bush winning the prior two elections signaled the death of the Democrat party.
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Facts don't support my opinion but yet so called predictions support yours? ::)
The opposing party gaining seats during midterms elections? OMG!! Never heard of before. It certainly isn't like, the norm. ::)
No, the signal for the GOP death is what I already said. Failure to make inroads into any group except far right wackos. Good job there.
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Facts don't support my opinion but yet so called predictions support yours? ::)
The opposing party gaining seats during midterms elections? OMG!! Never heard of before. It certainly isn't like, the norm. ::)
No, the signal for the GOP death is what I already said. Failure to make inroads into any group except far right wackos. Good job there.
The facts don't support your opinion and the predictions don't support your opinion. Basically nothing does.
The opposing party didn't just gain seats, they took control of the House. Amazing how a dying party gained so many seats.
The GOP has made so few inroads that they're losing ground at the "national level" and state level. Only if you ignore what's actually happening in elections around the country.
I'm not suggesting the Republican party doesn't need to improve. They certainly do. So do Democrats. But to say the party is dying is just silly.
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I'm sorry? What supports your opinion again? Oh yeah... "predictions". ::)
I'm predicting I will win the lottery this week. Think they should just mail me the check before I even buy my ticket?
Making no new inroads.
Alienating every voting class except dingbat wackos.
Having a chance to look like centrists but they chose to look like 1940s fascists.
Their leader is nothing more than a coward too busy worrying about his speakership than in leading the party.
Too extreme for the younger generation who are much more liberal in social areas, the GOP just comes across as hateful.
Trickle down economics? Yeah, that brought the middle class into the fold alright.
Keep holding onto your hope. The only chance you have for your little party is an influx of RINOs.
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I'm sorry? What supports your opinion again? Oh yeah... "predictions". ::)
I'm predicting I will win the lottery this week. Think they should just mail me the check before I even buy my ticket?
Making no new inroads.
Alienating every voting class except dingbat wackos.
Having a chance to look like centrists but they chose to look like 1940s fascists.
Their leader is nothing more than a coward too busy worrying about his speakership than in leading the party.
Too extreme for the younger generation who are much more liberal in social areas, the GOP just comes across as hateful.
Trickle down economics? Yeah, that brought the middle class into the fold alright.
Keep holding onto your hope. The only chance you have for your little party is an influx of RINOs.
hahah it always makes me laugh when liberals feel like they are the champions of the poor and neglected.
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I'm sorry? What supports your opinion again? Oh yeah... "predictions". ::)
I'm predicting I will win the lottery this week. Think they should just mail me the check before I even buy my ticket?
Making no new inroads.
Alienating every voting class except dingbat wackos.
Having a chance to look like centrists but they chose to look like 1940s fascists.
Their leader is nothing more than a coward too busy worrying about his speakership than in leading the party.
Too extreme for the younger generation who are much more liberal in social areas, the GOP just comes across as hateful.
Trickle down economics? Yeah, that brought the middle class into the fold alright.
Keep holding onto your hope. The only chance you have for your little party is an influx of RINOs.
I didn't make a prediction about the Senate. Silverman did. Your quarrel is with him, although he was dead on in 2012.
Nothing wrong with looking at projections regarding what will happen in 2014 in Congress. What else can anyone do but make projections at this point? And because the Republican party is dying, the projections should show huge losses by Republicans. But that's not what we're seeing at this point.
But hey I don't fault you for wishful thinking.
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I didn't make a prediction about the Senate. Silverman did. Your quarrel is with him, although he was dead on in 2012.
Nothing wrong with looking at projections regarding what will happen in 2014 in Congress. What else can anyone do but make projections at this point? And because the Republican party is dying, the projections should show huge losses by Republicans. But that's not what we're seeing at this point.
But hey I don't fault you for wishful thinking.
Gerrymandering. Don't be such a rube.
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I didn't make a prediction about the Senate. Silverman did. Your quarrel is with him, although he was dead on in 2012.
Nothing wrong with looking at projections regarding what will happen in 2014 in Congress. What else can anyone do but make projections at this point? And because the Republican party is dying, the projections should show huge losses by Republicans. But that's not what we're seeing at this point.
But hey I don't fault you for wishful thinking.
I realize that these sorts of things can change very rapidly but if you look across the globe in the developed countries there is without question a strong conservative movement going on. Germany, Austraila, France and Norway are all testimony to that in recent elections/events.
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I realize that these sorts of things can change very rapidly but if you look across the globe in the developed countries there is without question a strong conservative movement going on. Germany, Austraila, France and Norway are all testimony to that in recent elections/events.
yeah but there has been a significant leftward trend at home.
I kmow we hold the house but IMHO it seems tjat publiv ideas and tjinking in general has been shifting steadily left.
I hope the republicans can adapt or lurker is right, theyll fade away.....
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yeah but there has been a significant leftward trend at home.
I kmow we hold the house but IMHO it seems tjat publiv ideas and tjinking in general has been shifting steadily left.
I hope the republicans can adapt or lurker is right, theyll fade away.....
Lol man fuck "lurker" or any of these other bitch ass simp lefties on this forum.
Congress really runs shit when it's all said and done. They control the purse and can make the president look like a complete buffoon as is the case now. Obama is accomplishing jack shit right now because of congress. And with the with the way the voting lines are drawn conservatives with dominate on the congressional and state level for at least the next 10 to 20 years.
Again, I am sure I will get 3 or 4 replies from the same beta DNC slaves who always respond to my posts but never come back with a decent response but it is what it is. You control congress and stand firm and u got the president by the balls.
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Lol man fuck "lurker" or any of these other bitch ass simp lefties on this forum.
Congress really runs shit when it's all said and done. They control the purse and can make the president look like a complete buffoon as is the case now. Obama is accomplishing jack shit right now because of congress. And with the with the way the voting lines are drawn conservatives with dominate on the congressional and state level for at least the next 10 to 20 years.
Again, I am sure I will get 3 or 4 replies from the same beta DNC slaves who always respond to my posts but never come back with a decent response but it is what it is. You control congress and stand firm and u got the president by the balls.
I hope youre right.... the thought of an effective one party system because of the refusal of the Republicans to grow and change is a scary thought. ...
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I hope youre right.... the thought of an effective one party system because of the refusal of the Republicans to grow and change is a scary thought. ...
Try to avoid the msm kool aid.(said with all respect, Shock)
Even bill Clinton recently said the republicans are doing a good job because they are simply saying "no".
You own Congress which the right does and you own the state level which the right DOMINATES and you can make the presidents job extremely difficult...just look at how much of this clowns agenda has fallen straight on its ass. The MSMs influence is literally dying before our eyes because people aren't tuning in and people the world over beginning to see liberalism for the cancer that it is. Obamacare will be a complete unmitigated disaster. The 2008 election where Obama was given control of the senate and congress was an absolute fluke given to him by that punk ass bitch George W who completely fucked this country up, no question about it. But Obama squandered that political power away in 2 years and will never regain a 60 seat senate or Pelosi as speaker of the house. Shock, is it an ideal situation at this moment? No it is not but with the way it's looking the right is poised to lessen this tyrant Obamas power in 2014 and if the lefties win another election in 16 which is very much a toss up then u just keep making their lives a living hell with a dominate congress and state level legislature, a relatively even or possibly majority right in the senate and let the chips fall where they may. But the idea of "changing" to fit their agenda, don't even entertain that idea.
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Try to avoid the msm kool aid.(said with all respect, Shock)
Even bill Clinton recently said the republicans are doing a good job because they are simply saying "no".
You own Congress which the right does and you own the state level which the right DOMINATES and you can make the presidents job extremely difficult...just look at how much of this clowns agenda has fallen straight on its ass. The MSMs influence is literally dying before our eyes because people aren't tuning in and people the world over beginning to see liberalism for the cancer that it is. Obamacare will be a complete unmitigated disaster. The 2008 election where Obama was given control of the senate and congress was an absolute fluke given to him by that punk ass bitch George W who completely fucked this country up, no question about it. But Obama squandered that political power away in 2 years and will never regain a 60 seat senate or Pelosi as speaker of the house. Shock, is it an ideal situation at this moment? No it is not but with the way it's looking the right is poised to lessen this tyrant Obamas power in 2014 and if the lefties win another election in 16 which is very much a toss up then u just keep making their lives a living hell with a dominate congress and state level legislature, a relatively even or possibly majority right in the senate and let the chips fall where they may. But the idea of "changing" to fit their agenda, don't even entertain that idea.
No offense taken, I literally never turn on a major outlet. But you have to realize I live in greater Seattle area Washington, so I'm supremely bombarded on all sides by extreme left ideals and attitudes. It's tough to sort out whats actually going on on a national level.
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No offense taken, I literally never turn on a major outlet. But you have to realize I live in greater Seattle area Washington, so I'm supremely bombarded on all sides by extreme left ideals and attitudes. It's tough to sort out whats actually going on on a national level.
Well you come down to Texas, the midwest, or the south my brotha and I'll show you a completely different landscape. You gotta look at this from a strategic standpoint. If I had to place a bet, not being a dick sucking DNC or RNC member I will say come November 2014 the Republicans will gain seats in the Senate and a good chance they will have a very slight majority in the senate. Of course the same 20 year old naive liberal robots on this forum will throw out the same "2012 republicans lost the presidential election" talking point they always do but I'm not looking at the past...this is mid term, 6 years into a very unpopular president and I'm looking forward and if the republicans do pick up seats, which you would be a fool to bet against, then you most certainly don't change your message to conform to those who are poised to lose come November next year.
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Well you come down to Texas, the midwest, or the south my brotha and I'll show you a completely different landscape. You gotta look at this from a strategic standpoint. If I had to place a bet, not being a dick sucking DNC or RNC member I will say come November 2014 the Republicans will gain seats in the Senate and a good chance they will have a very slight majority in the senate. Of course the same 20 year old naive liberal robots on this forum will throw out the same "2012 republicans lost the presidential election" talking point they always do but I'm not looking at the past...this is mid term, 6 years into a very unpopular president and I'm looking forward and if the republicans do pick up seats, which you would be a fool to bet against, then you most certainly don't change your message to conform to those who are poised to lose come November next year.
I lived in Houston 2010 through 2012, and i was shocked was liberal the landscape was in the city. I was surrounded by blacks and mexicans though, so that may have something to do with it.
Im not gonna lie, living next to the ghettos in Houston made me pretty racist. It's leaving me since I'm back up north.
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I didn't make a prediction about the Senate. Silverman did. Your quarrel is with him, although he was dead on in 2012.
Nothing wrong with looking at projections regarding what will happen in 2014 in Congress. What else can anyone do but make projections at this point? And because the Republican party is dying, the projections should show huge losses by Republicans. But that's not what we're seeing at this point.
But hey I don't fault you for wishful thinking.
Epic denial.
What was the reaction to Silverman's prediction before the outcome of the 2012 election? Yeah... that's what I thought. How fickle.
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I lived in Houston 2010 through 2012, and i was shocked was liberal the landscape was in the city. I was surrounded by blacks and mexicans though, so that may have something to do with it.
Im not gonna lie, living next to the ghettos in Houston made me pretty racist. It's leaving me since I'm back up north.
I'm already pretty racist anyway. At least this month. Just like every October. When the blacks shuttle their kids - 10-15 to a car - into our community. There will literally be a line of cars like a funeral procession waiting at the gate for it to open when someone like UPS or FedEx comes through. Then they file in and disgorge their little turds in the area, while the "mama" sits behind the steering wheel of a 15 year old beater car ("mismatched tires and the whitewall's flaking.... " ~ mixalot reference) with her hair in curls, cigarette in one hand, cell phone in the other (using it like a damn walkie talkie - at the ear to listen then holds it front of her mouth while she speaks... back to ear.. .back to mouth)... sitting there alternately yelling out the car window (as the little monkeys trample up our lawns because they never heard of using a damn sidewalk before) "HEY! WHAT THEM GIVE YOU IN DAT HOUSE OVER THERE? YOU BETTER GO BACK AND GET ME ONE"
I have taken stocking lots of fruits and peanut packs for these hordes. Though I tend to give the whiniest little crybaby in the group something extra like a pack of Now And Laters or M&Ms. Knowing damn well that when they get back in the car it is going to instigate a fight in the back seat between them all wanting it. That won't end until "mama" (or "auntie") takes it away from them and eats it right there in front of the brood. And then the whiny little bastard is going to cry and sniffle and whine all the way home over them being mean to him.
Don't worry, by my birthday in November my grass will have recovered, I will have replaced all the cracked and broken sprinkler heads in the yard that got stomped on, or dug up ("hey look whut I found whut dis is?") and my postal guy will have wiped off all the grimey hand prints from the mailbox. Life will be back to normal.
Until next October.
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I realize that these sorts of things can change very rapidly but if you look across the globe in the developed countries there is without question a strong conservative movement going on. Germany, Austraila, France and Norway are all testimony to that in recent elections/events.
Maybe the western world CAN recover...lets hope so..
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Gerrymandering. Don't be such a rube.
Ok gimmick. Are you saying gerrymandering is the reason Republicans hold the House, are projected to take the Senate, etc.?
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Ok gimmick. Are you saying gerrymandering is the reason Republicans hold the House, are projected to take the Senate, etc.?
It is the reason they hold the house, that's a fact, they had less votes but gerrymandered districts pushed them ahead. Who predicts they will take the senate?
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It is the reason they hold the house, that's a fact, they had less votes but gerrymandered districts pushed them ahead. Who predicts they will take the senate?
O Rly? It's a fact? What proof do you have?
Nate Silver. I bumped the thread.
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O Rly? It's a fact? What proof do you have?
Nate Silver. I bumped the thread.
They had less overall votes, I thought this was common knowledge.
I know Nate silvers predictions. He is usually right and I have no evidence he is not. However, the polls going in the opposite direction of good for the GOP, at some pretty impressive rates. Worst congressional approval rating in history? Everyone should go.
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They had less overall votes, I thought this was common knowledge.
I know Nate silvers predictions. He is usually right and I have no evidence he is not. However, the polls going in the opposite direction of good for the GOP, at some pretty impressive rates. Worst congressional approval rating in history? Everyone should go.
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It is a FACT that the dems had more than 1 million more votes in 2012 congressional races. I guess somehow when your dealing with the retard right (oxymoron) facts are subjective.
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They had less overall votes, I thought this was common knowledge.
I know Nate silvers predictions. He is usually right and I have no evidence he is not. However, the polls going in the opposite direction of good for the GOP, at some pretty impressive rates. Worst congressional approval rating in history? Everyone should go.
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No, it is not common knowledge that the reason Republicans took the House in 2010 was due to gerrymandered voting districts. On what basis did you make your statement that it's a "fact"? You have a link? I'd like to read it.
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I lived in Houston 2010 through 2012, and i was shocked was liberal the landscape was in the city. I was surrounded by blacks and mexicans though, so that may have something to do with it.
Im not gonna lie, living next to the ghettos in Houston made me pretty racist. It's leaving me since I'm back up north.
Yeah I would want nothing to do with Harris county. It's not as bad once you get out into the woods towards Huntsville and Livingston though.
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I lived in Houston 2010 through 2012, and i was shocked was liberal the landscape was in the city. I was surrounded by blacks and mexicans though, so that may have something to do with it.
Im not gonna lie, living next to the ghettos in Houston made me pretty racist. It's leaving me since I'm back up north.
Ive lived in and around houston the majority of my life and yea the inner city inside the loop has definitely become a lot more liberal over the last 4 years or so. The suburbs though are still very staunchly conservative and will remain so for the forseeable future.
should have moved out to the burbs broham...
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I'd like to see some updated nate silver numbers.
Republicans in Congress receive more of the blame for the shutdown: 44 percent of Americans blame them, while 35 percent put more blame on President Obama and the Democrats in Congress. CBS
I have to wonder if the shutdown will affect the 2014 projections/predictions
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Ive lived in and around houston the majority of my life and yea the inner city inside the loop has definitely become a lot more liberal over the last 4 years or so. The suburbs though are still very staunchly conservative and will remain so for the forseeable future.
should have moved out to the burbs broham...
Its the same all over texas...go to respectable neighborhoods/suburbs and you see mostly signs/stickers for the repub candidate...go anywhere outside the city and its virtually 100% for the repub candidate...yet all these people still get outnumbered by the urban ghetto dwellers who all vote democrat. Its clear as day where the dems get their base numbers, everyone knows it. Its disgusting. This is why cities, even in totally red states, still virtually all 'go blue'.
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Its the same all over texas...go to respectable neighborhoods/suburbs and you see mostly signs/stickers for the repub candidate...go anywhere outside the city and its virtually 100% for the repub candidate...yet all these people still get outnumbered by the urban ghetto dwellers who all vote democrat. Its clear as day where the dems get their base numbers, everyone knows it. Its disgusting. This is why cities, even in totally red states, still virtually all 'go blue'.
and being an urban dweller sucks.... ill never understand why anyone would actually choose to live like that. Those neighborhoods and shit suck.
Tony, I lived inside the 610, along 290, just south of where 290 intersects the loop. It was funny, where I lived was ok, but if I went a block in any direction, instant ghetto. To the east was a black ghetto, to the west/south were mexican ghettos, and the north was white trash.
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No, it is not common knowledge that the reason Republicans took the House in 2010 was due to gerrymandered voting districts. On what basis did you make your statement that it's a "fact"? You have a link? I'd like to read it.
Bump for Necrosis.
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Bump for Necrosis.
He's probably just seeing a patient in between posts, I'm sure he'll be along soon ;D
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He's probably just seeing a patient in between posts, I'm sure he'll be along soon ;D
No, I cancelled my appointments to post today.
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He's probably just seeing a patient in between posts, I'm sure he'll be along soon ;D
It's more likely he just pulled that stuff out of his rear end. But maybe I'm wrong? That's why I asked where he got the "common knowledge" that the reason Republicans took the House in 2010 was due to gerrymandered voting districts.
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No, I cancelled my appointments to post today.
Lol
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It's more likely he just pulled that stuff out of his rear end. But maybe I'm wrong? That's why I asked where he got the "common knowledge" that the reason Republicans took the House in 2010 was due to gerrymandered voting districts.
Iwill point out that it's not uncommon, nor solely the right who gerrymander. But it was quite obvious in 2012 when compared with the popular vote that gerrymandering ensured a few key areas and more seats in the end.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/11/republicans-gerrymandering-house-representatives-election-chart
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2012-11-13/opinions/35506182_1_democratic-senate-congressional-districts-house-seats
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Iwill point out that it's not uncommon, nor solely the right who gerrymander. But it was quite obvious in 2012 when compared with the popular vote that gerrymandering ensured a few key areas and more seats in the end.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/11/republicans-gerrymandering-house-representatives-election-chart
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2012-11-13/opinions/35506182_1_democratic-senate-congressional-districts-house-seats
Thanks for the links. I read both. Some observations:
1. Neither one deals with what happened in 2010. Redistricting happened after the 2010 election, so gerrymandering was not the reason Republicans took the House back from Democrats in 2010.
2. Both articles point out that Republicans and Democrats did the same thing:
Republicans point to Illinois and Maryland as examples of Democrats playing the same game, and it is true that Democrats in those states drew maps favorable to their interests. In Maryland, Democrats got 62 percent of the combined vote in House races and 88 percent of the congressional seats; in Illinois they won 54 percent of the vote and about two-thirds of the congressional seats.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/11/republicans-gerrymandering-house-representatives-election-chart
Now, this isn’t to say Democrats don’t play similar games. On Election Day, they picked up five House seats in Illinois after a Democratic-controlled redistricting in 2011, so they will hold 12 of the 18 Illinois House seats come January. But Obama carried his home state by a 16-point margin, and the Democratic pick-ups help create a delegation that fairly reflects the state’s partisan balance.
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2012-11-13/opinions/35506182_1_democratic-senate-congressional-districts-house-seats
3. I’d be more convinced that gerrymandering was the reason Republicans maintained the House in 2012 if the information came from a pollster who wasn’t affiliated with the left or right.
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Tony, I lived inside the 610, along 290, just south of where 290 intersects the loop. It was funny, where I lived was ok, but if I went a block in any direction, instant ghetto. To the east was a black ghetto, to the west/south were mexican ghettos, and the north was white trash.
hahah I grew up at 290 and fairbanks north houston, hahah small world
yea i know exactly where youre talking about I work in the galleria area and have some friends that live just outside the loop on the north side of 290.
Yea some nice neighborhoods surronded by ghetto.
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Thanks for the links. I read both. Some observations:
1. Neither one deals with what happened in 2010. Redistricting happened after the 2010 election, so gerrymandering was not the reason Republicans took the House back from Democrats in 2010.
2. Both articles point out that Republicans and Democrats did the same thing:
Republicans point to Illinois and Maryland as examples of Democrats playing the same game, and it is true that Democrats in those states drew maps favorable to their interests. In Maryland, Democrats got 62 percent of the combined vote in House races and 88 percent of the congressional seats; in Illinois they won 54 percent of the vote and about two-thirds of the congressional seats.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/11/republicans-gerrymandering-house-representatives-election-chart
Now, this isn’t to say Democrats don’t play similar games. On Election Day, they picked up five House seats in Illinois after a Democratic-controlled redistricting in 2011, so they will hold 12 of the 18 Illinois House seats come January. But Obama carried his home state by a 16-point margin, and the Democratic pick-ups help create a delegation that fairly reflects the state’s partisan balance.
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2012-11-13/opinions/35506182_1_democratic-senate-congressional-districts-house-seats
3. I’d be more convinced that gerrymandering was the reason Republicans maintained the House in 2012 if the information came from a pollster who wasn’t affiliated with the left or right.
I think I am mistaken or confused, I was meaning to post about the 2012 elections, my mistake.
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I think I am mistaken or confused, I was meaning to post about the 2012 elections, my mistake.
No worries.
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I'm already pretty racist anyway. At least this month. Just like every October. When the blacks shuttle their kids - 10-15 to a car - into our community. There will literally be a line of cars like a funeral procession waiting at the gate for it to open when someone like UPS or FedEx comes through. Then they file in and disgorge their little turds in the area, while the "mama" sits behind the steering wheel of a 15 year old beater car ("mismatched tires and the whitewall's flaking.... " ~ mixalot reference) with her hair in curls, cigarette in one hand, cell phone in the other (using it like a damn walkie talkie - at the ear to listen then holds it front of her mouth while she speaks... back to ear.. .back to mouth)... sitting there alternately yelling out the car window (as the little monkeys trample up our lawns because they never heard of using a damn sidewalk before) "HEY! WHAT THEM GIVE YOU IN DAT HOUSE OVER THERE? YOU BETTER GO BACK AND GET ME ONE"
I have taken stocking lots of fruits and peanut packs for these hordes. Though I tend to give the whiniest little crybaby in the group something extra like a pack of Now And Laters or M&Ms. Knowing damn well that when they get back in the car it is going to instigate a fight in the back seat between them all wanting it. That won't end until "mama" (or "auntie") takes it away from them and eats it right there in front of the brood. And then the whiny little bastard is going to cry and sniffle and whine all the way home over them being mean to him.
Don't worry, by my birthday in November my grass will have recovered, I will have replaced all the cracked and broken sprinkler heads in the yard that got stomped on, or dug up ("hey look whut I found whut dis is?") and my postal guy will have wiped off all the grimey hand prints from the mailbox. Life will be back to normal.
Until next October.
I think you redeemed yourself w every nasty thing you ever said to me w this post. ha ha ha /1!!!!1
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I think you redeemed yourself w every nasty thing you ever said to me w this post. ha ha ha /1!!!!1
A lot of people don’t want to admit it because they think it makes them a bad person. It doesn’t. It just makes you a realistic person. The current state of black America just has no place in civilized society in the 21st-century.
I was just in upstate New York, Albany it’s exactly the same as the way people here describe Houston. No matter where you go it’s the same shit:
(http://ww3.hdnux.com/photos/55/02/35/11806558/5/920x920.jpg)
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A lot of people don’t want to admit it because they think it makes them a bad person. It doesn’t. It just makes you a realistic person. The current state of black America just has no place in civilized society in the 21st-century.
I was just in upstate New York, Albany it’s exactly the same as the way people here describe Houston. No matter where you go it’s the same shit:
(http://ww3.hdnux.com/photos/55/02/35/11806558/5/920x920.jpg)
GhettoThug culture is the same whether albany, compton, NYC, LA, New Orleans, Detroit, Chicago. Its a degeneracy