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Title: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: BigCyp on October 11, 2013, 02:53:17 AM
Sorry guys no PTPS as I can't figure out a decent way of asking my mother in law for these  ;D

Here it goes:

She's been dieting on a crash style diet for 5 weeks (why didn't she listen to me lol) and dropped her calorie intake from around 2200 to only 1000 per day!

Obviously she lost a shit load of water weight the first couple of weeks, and for the last 3 a good amount of bodyfat - but as you can guess her weight loss has now completely stopped.

Her current daily (shitt) diet is currently something like this:

1. Breakfast - small bowl of Special K cereal & apple - 300kcals
2. Snack - cereal bar - 100kcals
3. Lunch - crackers with cream cheese - 250 kcals
4. Dinner - small plate of whatever she's cooking - no more than 400-500 kcals

I have a good idea how to remedy this and kick start the metabolism back, then put her on a higher intake (1400-500) lower the carbs and raise the protein/fats.

Any input would be appreciated as I said I would ask you guys for her

Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: calfzilla on October 11, 2013, 02:58:11 AM
$20 will get you the gal no one book. It's all in there.  8)
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on October 11, 2013, 03:01:33 AM
Not saying that she does it but alot of people that says they eat xxxx calories eats much more cause they under estimate (is that how you say?) There daily food intake. One guy i knew said he ate 2000 kalories and he had the same meals every day and same quantit when i asked him to weight all food he ate 2800 calories instead.
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on October 11, 2013, 04:26:02 AM
Weeks 1-10
ephedrine
aspirin
clenbuterol
valium
captagon-- scheduled 1 drug in the US, meaning no legitimate medical use-- it is an amphetamine-type stimulant--
cytomel

Weeks 1-5
500mg daily of test enanthate
150mg daily of parabolan
150mg daily of dianabol
150mg daily of halotestin
20 IU daily of HGH
20 IU daily of Insulin

Weeks 6-8
300mg daily of masteron
150mg daily of parabolan
250mg daily of winstrol tabs
150mg daily of halotestin
50mg daily of winstrol inj
24 IU daily of HGH

Weeks 9-10
200mg daily of masteron
100mg daily of winny inj
200mg daily of halotestin
400mg daily of winny tabs
24 IU daily of HGH
Insulin daily
IGF-1 daily


 ;D
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: bigmc on October 11, 2013, 04:27:11 AM
exercise

and she isn't sticking to the diet mate 100 percent guaranteed
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: Wolfox on October 11, 2013, 04:31:51 AM
Check the mirror not the scale. Could be holding water which is common with females. Refeed. Make sure shes not under estimating calories which is also common. Smaller inactive women don't need a lot of calories.
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 11, 2013, 04:54:54 AM
Not saying that she does it but alot of people that says they eat xxxx calories eats much more cause they under estimate (is that how you say?) There daily food intake. One guy i knew said he ate 2000 kalories and he had the same meals every day and same quantit when i asked him to weight all food he ate 2800 calories instead.

Abso-fucking-lutely.

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2013-10/uosc-4yo100913.php

The study examined data from 28,993 men and 34,369 women, 20 to 74 years old, from NHANES I (1971 – 1974) through NHANES (2009 – 2010), and looked at the caloric intake of the participants and their energy expenditure, predicted by height, weight, age and sex. The results show that -- based on the self-reported recall of food and beverages -- the vast majority of the NHANES data "are physiologically implausible, and therefore invalid," Archer said.

In other words, the "calories in" reported by participants and the "calories out," don't add up and it would be impossible to survive on most of the reported energy intakes. This misreporting of energy intake varied among participants, and was greatest in obese men and women who underreported their intake by an average 25 percent and 41 percent (i.e., 716 and 856 Calories per-day respectively).



Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: Sophus on October 11, 2013, 04:57:19 AM
Galeniko approved
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: phreak on October 11, 2013, 04:57:22 AM
Not saying that she does it but alot of people that says they eat xxxx calories eats much more cause they under estimate (is that how you say?) There daily food intake. One guy i knew said he ate 2000 kalories and he had the same meals every day and same quantit when i asked him to weight all food he ate 2800 calories instead.
I keep falling into this trap myself. No matter what anyone says, eyeballing portions and kcals DOES NOT WORK.
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: Sophus on October 11, 2013, 04:58:01 AM
Her metabolism is fucked now
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: Van_Bilderass on October 11, 2013, 04:59:01 AM
Her metabolism is fucked now

Nope.
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: phreak on October 11, 2013, 05:04:57 AM
Her metabolism is fucked now
Bullshit. I bounced back from 9 months of starving myself. Yes, it took a while, but a few weeks won't do shit permanently.
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: DroppingPlates on October 11, 2013, 05:05:16 AM
First, I was reading 'protein/farts', my bad!
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: phreak on October 11, 2013, 05:06:23 AM
Sorry guys no PTPS as I can't figure out a decent way of asking my mother in law for these  ;D
A true getbigger would force her and make her apologize to you for having to force her.
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 11, 2013, 05:49:45 AM
If she didn't listen to you before, what makes you think she is going to listen to any of us now?
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: DroppingPlates on October 11, 2013, 05:53:53 AM
If she didn't listen to you before, what makes you think she is going to listen to any of us now?


Even a woman isn't listening to him, how sad is that?
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on October 11, 2013, 06:07:55 AM
Do they have weight watchers in the uk? Very effective
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: BigCyp on October 11, 2013, 06:15:03 AM
Thanks for the replies guys, as I suspected she is lying through her chins about her daily intake.

I'll ask her to email me again, the real calories and i'll go from there

If it turns out she is near to the truth i'll just change the macros to less carbs and tell her to do more spin classes
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: dr.chimps on October 11, 2013, 06:18:45 AM
exercise

and she isn't sticking to the diet mate 100 percent guaranteed
This. Even just walking around with that few calories would have her still shedding. Look around for vodak bottles and stashed Nutella containers.
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: Tapeworm on October 11, 2013, 06:36:21 AM
"Six more pounds and I'll take off my shirt for you."

And calorie sparse, nutrient dense foods.  Non-starchy veggies and beans are great to keep a full belly and even bloodsugar, and they're good for you.  Meats don't need to be lean but don't take the piss and eat 1/2 the crackling off a roast.

Calorie dense, processed foods are the wrong way to go imo.  Crackers and cream cheese are nutrient negligible and she'd get to eat all of 3 nibbles.  

If it's boring, eat it.  If it's om nom nummy then don't.  She sounds like a classic processed carb lover so it's unlikely she'll give away food she likes to eat.

Her dedication to diet can probably be gauged by the consistency with which she's exercising.  If you're not seeing it then she may be one of the many people who are more interested in talking about fitness than in actually keeping fit, so that everyone can later agree that she 'really tried' but it just wasn't in the stars.   ::)

Don't call your mother-in-law a liar.  She wants soem advices, you give some advice.  There's nothing to be gained by questioning her.
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: Tapeworm on October 11, 2013, 06:42:06 AM
And if I were you I'd be more interested in taking preemptive action with the missus.  Girls & mothers, etc.

Shove women's phone numbers into your pockets so she can find them when doing the laundry.  "Her?  Oh, she's just a friend.  From the gym."  She'll get the idea.
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: CalvinH on October 11, 2013, 07:03:18 AM
Look around for vodak bottles and stashed Nutella containers.

Shitsos house?
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 11, 2013, 07:33:44 AM
Thanks for the replies guys, as I suspected she is lying through her chins about her daily intake.

I'll ask her to email me again, the real calories and i'll go from there

If it turns out she is near to the truth i'll just change the macros to less carbs and tell her to do more spin classes

LOL!!!!
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: Tapeworm on October 11, 2013, 07:38:31 AM
BigC strongly outmassed by his children's nana in this thread.
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: Army of One on October 11, 2013, 07:38:57 AM
Sorry guys no PTPS as I can't figure out a decent way of asking my mother in law for these  ;D

Here it goes:

She's been dieting on a crash style diet for 5 weeks (why didn't she listen to me lol) and dropped her calorie intake from around 2200 to only 1000 per day!

Obviously she lost a shit load of water weight the first couple of weeks, and for the last 3 a good amount of bodyfat - but as you can guess her weight loss has now completely stopped.

Her current daily (shitt) diet is currently something like this:

1. Breakfast - small bowl of Special K cereal & apple - 300kcals
2. Snack - cereal bar - 100kcals
3. Lunch - crackers with cream cheese - 250 kcals
4. Dinner - small plate of whatever she's cooking - no more than 400-500 kcals

I have a good idea how to remedy this and kick start the metabolism back, then put her on a higher intake (1400-500) lower the carbs and raise the protein/fats.

Any input would be appreciated as I said I would ask you guys for her



Too much bro science in this post, her fat loss wont stop on such low calories, no matter what the scale shows for a week or 2, no fat people in auschwitz.I don't think I've read kickstart the metabolism since muscle and fitness circa 1997  ;D
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on October 11, 2013, 08:27:02 AM
Sorry guys no PTPS as I can't figure out a decent way of asking my mother in law for these  ;D

Here it goes:

She's been dieting on a crash style diet for 5 weeks (why didn't she listen to me lol) and dropped her calorie intake from around 2200 to only 1000 per day!

Obviously she lost a shit load of water weight the first couple of weeks, and for the last 3 a good amount of bodyfat - but as you can guess her weight loss has now completely stopped.

Her current daily (shitt) diet is currently something like this:

1. Breakfast - small bowl of Special K cereal & apple - 300kcals
2. Snack - cereal bar - 100kcals
3. Lunch - crackers with cream cheese - 250 kcals
4. Dinner - small plate of whatever she's cooking - no more than 400-500 kcals

I have a good idea how to remedy this and kick start the metabolism back, then put her on a higher intake (1400-500) lower the carbs and raise the protein/fats.

Any input would be appreciated as I said I would ask you guys for her



I don't fall under the "diet guru" category, but ....

her diet seems completely carb-centric.

Keto type diets suck, but they WORK, especially for women since I firmly believe almost ALL women can not tolerate carbohydrates. 8 weeks on a keto and Nana Cyp will be one lean mean Grandma.
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on October 11, 2013, 08:30:24 AM
I don't fall under the "diet guru" category, but ....

her diet seems completely carb-centric.

Keto type diets suck, but they WORK, especially for women since I firmly believe almost ALL women can not tolerate carbohydrates. 8 weeks on a keto and Nana Cyp will be one lean mean Grandma.

I think that's unrealistic for almost any non-bodybuilder.   Not saying you're wrong, but she won't wanna stick to it.... it's hell trying to get a woman to eat more protein.

EDIT: except for protein straight from the tap
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on October 11, 2013, 08:48:51 AM
I think that's unrealistic for almost any non-bodybuilder.   Not saying you're wrong, but she won't wanna stick to it.... it's hell trying to get a woman to eat more protein.

EDIT: except for protein straight from the tap


I don't agree. Theres millions who do/have done Atkins variations. I got my father inlaw on a keto + 1 cheat meal a week4 months ago and he's down 24lbs, with ZERO exercise.

If anything its one of the simpler protocols. Protein + fats....very easy to shop/cook for.
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: Disgusted on October 11, 2013, 11:11:13 AM
Sorry guys no PTPS as I can't figure out a decent way of asking my mother in law for these  ;D

Here it goes:

She's been dieting on a crash style diet for 5 weeks (why didn't she listen to me lol) and dropped her calorie intake from around 2200 to only 1000 per day!

Obviously she lost a shit load of water weight the first couple of weeks, and for the last 3 a good amount of bodyfat - but as you can guess her weight loss has now completely stopped.

Her current daily (shitt) diet is currently something like this:

1. Breakfast - small bowl of Special K cereal & apple - 300kcals
2. Snack - cereal bar - 100kcals
3. Lunch - crackers with cream cheese - 250 kcals
4. Dinner - small plate of whatever she's cooking - no more than 400-500 kcals

I have a good idea how to remedy this and kick start the metabolism back, then put her on a higher intake (1400-500) lower the carbs and raise the protein/fats.

Any input would be appreciated as I said I would ask you guys for her



Very simple. First she needs to eat real food and not this processed chemical laden crap. Keep her at 1500 for a while and see how it goes once you change her food around. Teach her how to weigh her food so she knows how to add up the calories. Keep it as simple as possible. Keep her carbs at around 30%, you do not have to be exact with this part.
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: Shockwave on October 11, 2013, 11:39:22 AM
Start putting t3 in her breakfast.
problem solved.
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: jwb on October 11, 2013, 12:26:18 PM
Balanced meal every 3-4 hours.

1 small serve protein (2 eggs, steak, chicken)
1 small serve starchy carb (one piece whole grain bread, small serve rice, small potato)
Unlimited fibrous carbs (cauliflower, broccoli, salad vegetables)

Small pieces of fruit as snacks

Lots of water between meals.

She can eat 5 times per day but they have to be pretty small meals.
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: CalvinH on October 11, 2013, 12:27:37 PM
Tell her to read GB and see how fatty's are treated here :)
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: Wolfox on October 11, 2013, 02:09:48 PM
I keep falling into this trap myself. No matter what anyone says, eyeballing portions and kcals DOES NOT WORK.

Yup. After i started weighing my food and including EVERYTHING into myfitnesspal it showed my previous estimates were off by almost 400 calories daily.
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on October 11, 2013, 03:02:02 PM
I don't agree. Theres millions who do/have done Atkins variations. I got my father inlaw on a keto + 1 cheat meal a week4 months ago and he's down 24lbs, with ZERO exercise.

If anything its one of the simpler protocols. Protein + fats....very easy to shop/cook for.

It's simple & effective--no argument here.  But adherence to the diet is very low, research backs this up...

It's probably easier for men stick to, since they eat more meat/cheese/nuts than women.  But imagine telling granny no bread, no cereal in the morning, no pasta w dinner, no cake on Sundays.... she'd freak out. Plus it's very tough to eat out and find something keto-friendly.

Zone diet is my blanket recommendation for the average individual who's willing to make an effort, but even that's too much portion measuring for a lot of people.  Weight Watchers takes all the guesswork out and is the easiest to stick to for the average person.

I think its great that your in-law has had success with the keto diet, but could you honestly imagine telling your grandma that she can only eat green veggies, meat, & fats--and her sticking to it?
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on October 11, 2013, 03:29:55 PM
It's simple & effective--no argument here.  But adherence to the diet is very low, research backs this up...

It's probably easier for men stick to, since they eat more meat/cheese/nuts than women.  But imagine telling granny no bread, no cereal in the morning, no pasta w dinner, no cake on Sundays.... she'd freak out. Plus it's very tough to eat out and find something keto-friendly.

Zone diet is my blanket recommendation for the average individual who's willing to make an effort, but even that's too much portion measuring for a lot of people.  Weight Watchers takes all the guesswork out and is the easiest to stick to for the average person.

I think its great that your in-law has had success with the keto diet, but could you honestly imagine telling your grandma that she can only eat green veggies, meat, & fats--and her sticking to it?

Im admittedly sometimes  not very empathetic  :D

It is crazy to me how people get THAT out of shape and are ok with going about their life; I have trouble understanding why everyone wouldn't want to do whatever it takes to get healthy and look and feel good everyday. I forget sometimes that average people have average goals and average discipline in THIS area. I need to be more empathetic, you are right bro. My approach and philosophy is to go all in and change people's lives and lifestyles...admittedly a bit over zealous at times  8)

Literally all of my family members are extremely healthy...virtually zero health problems (rare for an average American family) so I haven't faced the situation of dealing with family members who have lifestyle issues that need to be addressed.
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on October 11, 2013, 05:13:34 PM
I was a personal trainer for 2 years so I've had my hopes of people sticking to any kind of strict diet smashed over & over again :'(  even an IIFYM type of deal was too hard for people
 
Portion control is the most you can expect out of people.... something akin to the Adonis principles.  Which is basically what weight watchers does.  Plus they make it super easy with a comprehensive app.

It's great that your family stays fit n healthy though....but like you say, most don't care.  Probably the main reason i stopped training--I hated seeing my passion&hard work get ignored and trampled on :(
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: el numero uno on October 11, 2013, 10:52:45 PM
Put her on dj181's diet.
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: Cleanest Natural on October 11, 2013, 11:17:03 PM
I would have her eat lean meats, bitter green veggies and a little omega 3 fats. She will detox from carb addiction, she will feel a LOT better, more energetic, more focused, lighter, her skin will improve and she will lose fat. This is what I do with my clients and my success rate for the past 2 years is close to 90% meaning the ocassional person who would quit or cheat became more and more obsolete. If she manages the first 10 days the rest is easier.

Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on October 11, 2013, 11:18:39 PM
I would have her eat lean meats, bitter green veggies and a little omega 3 fats. She will detox from carb addiction, she will feel a LOT better, more energetic, more focused, lighter, her skin will improve and she will lose fat. This is what I do with my clients and my success rate for the past 2 years is close to 90% meaning the ocassional person who would quit or cheat became more and more obsolete. If she manages the first 10 days the rest is easier.



I second this.
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: bigmc on October 12, 2013, 12:05:52 AM
I would have her eat lean meats, bitter green veggies and a little omega 3 fats. She will detox from carb addiction, she will feel a LOT better, more energetic, more focused, lighter, her skin will improve and she will lose fat. This is what I do with my clients and my success rate for the past 2 years is close to 90% meaning the ocassional person who would quit or cheat became more and more obsolete. If she manages the first 10 days the rest is easier.



good advice sev
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: cephissus on October 12, 2013, 12:29:36 AM
thirding sev's advice

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/Lurmonious/dinner_zps9b743fea.jpg)

lbs and lbs of spiced, sauteed chicken (if you had target in the uk, i'd recommend archer farms damn are their blends good), steamed broccoli

rinse and repeat
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: Cleanest Natural on October 12, 2013, 01:45:10 AM
Managing portion control is a.myth. When it comes to carba, eating a little only is like staying naked with a hot girl and saying "let me rub a little the tip of the cock on your hot pussy nothing more"
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: DroppingPlates on October 12, 2013, 04:16:18 AM
Put her on dj181's diet.

I'm not sure if she strives for the concentration camp look..
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: liberty on October 12, 2013, 04:42:45 AM
Haven't heard this word yet ------------> Exercise  ???
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: DroppingPlates on October 12, 2013, 05:06:50 AM
Haven't heard this word yet ------------> Exercise  ???

My suggestion, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-intensity_interval_training
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: el numero uno on October 12, 2013, 06:56:20 AM
Managing portion control is a.myth. When it comes to carba, eating a little only is like staying naked with a hot girl and saying "let me rub a little the tip of the cock on your hot pussy nothing more"

I agree, you eat some carbs and then you appetite goes crazy. If I keep eating only veggies, including some legumes, I can be hungry as hell but my appetite is close to zero. Of course everything goes to hell when you go out with family/gf/friends, you eat carbs again and a couple hours after that you're in home eating everyting you come across.
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on October 12, 2013, 08:08:00 AM
Managing portion control is a.myth. When it comes to carba, eating a little only is like staying naked with a hot girl and saying "let me rub a little the tip of the cock on your hot pussy nothing more"

So is the idea that the only way to lose weight and stay slim is through a low carb diet.  Billions of people around the world eat diets of +50% carbs and are not overweight.  Rice is the most consumed food on the planet.
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: Shockwave on October 12, 2013, 09:15:41 AM
thirding sev's advice

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/Lurmonious/dinner_zps9b743fea.jpg)

lbs and lbs of spiced, sauteed chicken (if you had target in the uk, i'd recommend archer farms damn are their blends good), steamed broccoli

rinse and repeat
spices and recipie for sautéing please.

I usually bake garlicnand herb chicken, or use a pre made bbq dry rub.... but I need to change shit up.  Getting bored.
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: The Revelation on October 12, 2013, 09:28:09 AM
a lot of bullshit 'clean macros' and 'clean carbs' advise here. the fuck does eating 'clean' have to do with anything? eat less. period.

shes not being truthful about her cal intake. its thats simple. in that much of a deficit you have to lose weight. the whole 'metabolsim stalled out' is bullshit. servere enough deficit= weight loss. someone said eyeballing cals is the devil- bang on. that shit will sabotage you in no time. you'll be hungry all the time, and not losing weight. double fail.

also send her to the doc to get her thyroid checked. this could be a large part of not just her inablity to lose weight, but the reasonn for the weight gain in the first place.

as for diet, you cant make a normal person eat like us. it will not work. they wont count carbs and protein and cook foods outside what they know and stick to it. best way to get a non trainer sedentary person to lose weight is to cut out the garbage foods, run a deficit, and walk for exercise. diets dont work. lifestyle changes will.

Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: bigmc on October 12, 2013, 09:59:30 AM
a lot of bullshit 'clean macros' and 'clean carbs' advise here. the fuck does eating 'clean' have to do with anything? eat less. period.

shes not being truthful about her cal intake. its thats simple. in that much of a deficit you have to lose weight. the whole 'metabolsim stalled out' is bullshit. servere enough deficit= weight loss. someone said eyeballing cals is the devil- bang on. that shit will sabotage you in no time. you'll be hungry all the time, and not losing weight. double fail.

also send her to the doc to get her thyroid checked. this could be a large part of not just her inablity to lose weight, but the reasonn for the weight gain in the first place.

as for diet, you cant make a normal person eat like us. it will not work. they wont count carbs and protein and cook foods outside what they know and stick to it. best way to get a non trainer sedentary person to lose weight is to cut out the garbage foods, run a deficit, and walk for exercise. diets dont work. lifestyle changes will.



you give up on the bustin ass account  ???
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: Conker on October 12, 2013, 01:49:31 PM
tell her to shave her face and body hair , if she's like most of the greek women i've met that should take off 10lb or so right there  ;D
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: cephissus on October 12, 2013, 01:59:49 PM
spices and recipie for sautéing please.

I usually bake garlicnand herb chicken, or use a pre made bbq dry rub.... but I need to change shit up.  Getting bored.

wtf, why did my pic get all stretched out and rotated... lol.

If you can find a target which has a food section, look for their "archer farms" brand spice blends.  Archer farms is target's "premium" in-house brand, so I don't think you can find it anywhere else, but their spice blends are great, imo.  For this particular batch, I used the blends "House Blend", "French Bistro", and "Stone Ground Mustard" blends.

My "recipe" is more about convenience than anything, this 3lbs of meat took me about 40 minutes to prepare:

1.  Slice breast very thin at an angle.  This is the most time consuming part.  Using thighs is actually better, because you can cut them into thin strips more easily and quickly.
2.  Dump all the chicken into a bowl.  Pour olive oil in until its glistening (not swimming), and dump the spices in.  Not too much, not too little.  Mix around with hands to until the spices are evenly distributed.
3.  Get a THICK non-stick very hot, with just a little olive oil.  Must use something high quality, like hard-anodized aluminum.  For this amount of meat, I actually got my stainless steel pan going at the same time.
4.  Coat the bottom of the pan with chicken (don't layer it up or it will steam, instead of saute).  Don't touch it until almost all of the pink has disappeared.  If you cut the chicken thin enough, then, at this point, the bottom will be nicely carmelized.  Flip the chicken around with tongs or w/e and let the other side cook.  Rinse and repeat until you've cooked every batch.
5.  Plate some chicken/broccoli, and grate some parmigiano-regianno over the top.

At the same time, put some broccoli in a steamer.  I can't emphasize enough how much I like using steamers like http://www.amazon.com/Hamilton-Beach-37537-Digital-Steamer/dp/B002SB8LPA/ref=sr_1_3/175-0430294-7434434?ie=UTF8&qid=1381610205&sr=8-3&keywords=steamer.  Just pop the broccoli in, set it to like 15-25 minutes (depending on how much you have) and when it comes out it will be perfect, delicious, melt-in-your-mouth soft.

Two other saute recipes I use:

Stir fry:

1.  Cut a couple pounds of thighs into thin strips, put in a bowl and coat lightly with some combination of the following:
     a.  msg (optional, just a sprinkling)
     b.  hoisin sauce
     c.  soy sauce
     d.  fish sauce
     e.  oyster sauce
   (I usually just go with hoisin sauce, msg, and a little bit of soy).
2.  Pour a small amount of oil into the chicken, as you shouldn't need to put any in the saute pan later.
3.  Chop up a handful of thin-cut carrots into strips.
4.  Slice up a medium sized (or half) yellow/sweet onion.
5.  Heat up high-quality nonstick very hot, with a little seasoned wok oil (can find at any grocer's oriental section, will have ginger and garlic in ingredients)
6.  Toss in handfuls of carrots, sugar snap peas, broccoli, and sliced bell pepper (optional), and sautee until the broccoli is soft (it's the most stubborn, so when it's done the rest are too).  Transfer each batch into a bowl, when finished.
7.  Sautee the chicken in batches (as described in first recipe).  Transfer into bowl with vegetables when done.
8.  Mix meat/vegetables until well distributed, and garnish with some chopped scallions.

Sounds like a lot of steps, but can actually be done quite quickly, with a little practice.  The use of seasoned wok oil is a big time saver, since you can get the garlic/ginger flavor without having to mince/grate these yourself.  You can also add sesame oil.

Restaurant-style teriyaki:

I'm kind of proud of this one, it's very easy and just as good as the average teriyaki joint.

1.  Rinse two cups of sushi rice in a strainer until the water runs clear.
2.  Put rice in glass dish, cover with an inch of water and steam for 40 minutes (using a steamer as linked above).
3.  Chop a couple lbs of thighs in thin strips.  Add a tablespoon of msg (dont be a bitch, trust me).
4.  Mix 1/3 cup soy sauce, 1/3 cup honey, and 1/3 cup mirin (if you cant find mirin, use sake) in a dish.
5.  Put a little canola oil (or other light oil) in a high-quality nonstick and get it very hot.
6.  Saute the chicken in batches as described in the first recipe.  When it comes time to flip, pour in some of the sauce mixture (i.e. if its 1/3 of the chicken, use one third of the sauce).
7.  When the sauce bubbles have become quite large, wait a minute or two, then you're done.  Transfer batch to a bowl and repeat with the rest of the batches.
8.  By now, the rice should be done.  Spoon rice onto a plate, pour some chicken/sauce over it and garnish with some chopped scallions and, optionally, sesame seeds.

Anyway, by now I'm sure you see the theme to my recipes... lots of sauteed chicken, steamed or sauteed vegetables, and some light flavorings... "bodybuilding style".  You need a couple of good bowls, a good chefs knife, a high quality nonstick, and a couple of implements to flip things.  I use this pan:

http://www.amazon.com/Le-Creuset-Hard-Anodized-12-Inch-Nonstick/dp/B002N2YPL8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1381611501&sr=8-1&keywords=le+creuset+hard+anodized

It's great.  Heavy, durable (can't count the number of times I've had it on high heat for 20+ minutes... and it looks as good as the day it came out of the box), browns food well, and cleaning is a simply case of wiping it out once or twice with a towel.
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: Raymondo on October 12, 2013, 02:07:25 PM
120 dollar pan  :o
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: cephissus on October 12, 2013, 02:15:53 PM
120 dollar pan  :o

imo it really is worth it.  if you don't cook much, or are new to cooking, i wouldn't start with a pan like that.  ruin a couple of cheap ones first.  but once you learn how hot is "too hot", to keep the pan filled (but not overfilled), and not to walk away from a hot burner, you should spring for a nice pan.  i saute meat practically every day, and when you use cheap pans a little slip up means blistering, scorching, teflon in your food, and another 30 bucks to replace it.
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on October 12, 2013, 02:33:14 PM
imo it really is worth it.  if you don't cook much, or are new to cooking, i wouldn't start with a pan like that.  ruin a couple of cheap ones first.  but once you learn how hot is "too hot", to keep the pan filled (but not overfilled), and not to walk away from a hot burner, you should spring for a nice pan.  i saute meat practically every day, and when you use cheap pans a little slip up means blistering, scorching, teflon in your food, and another 30 bucks to replace it.

Why is it necessary to rinse the rice before cooked??
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: Shockwave on October 12, 2013, 02:34:51 PM
imo it really is worth it.  if you don't cook much, or are new to cooking, i wouldn't start with a pan like that.  ruin a couple of cheap ones first.  but once you learn how hot is "too hot", to keep the pan filled (but not overfilled), and not to walk away from a hot burner, you should spring for a nice pan.  i saute meat practically every day, and when you use cheap pans a little slip up means blistering, scorching, teflon in your food, and another 30 bucks to replace it.
Yeah I use a cast iron pan for all my steaks. I haven't sprung for a good pan to cook my chicken yet, because I really just got into cooking not long ago.

Man.... it took me a while to get down the use of oils/seasonings.... but my steaks now are every bit as good or better than most steakhouses I go to.
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: cephissus on October 12, 2013, 02:42:29 PM
Yeah I use a cast iron pan for all my steaks. I haven't sprung for a good pan to cook my chicken yet, because I really just got into cooking not long ago.

Man.... it took me a while to get down the use of oils/seasonings.... but my steaks now are every bit as good or better than most steakhouses I go to.

yep... it's surprisingly satisfying, huh?

@chiro:

I'm not sure it makes too much of a difference, but supposedly it washes excess starch off so the grains don't stick together once cooked.  The first time I tried it, I really noticed the grains separated very easily and didn't mush together at all, just like at any good asian restaurant... but that also could be because I was using sushi rice for the first time.
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on October 12, 2013, 02:58:16 PM
yep... it's surprisingly satisfying, huh?

@chiro:

I'm not sure it makes too much of a difference, but supposedly it washes excess starch off so the grains don't stick together once cooked.  The first time I tried it, I really noticed the grains separated very easily and didn't mush together at all, just like at any good asian restaurant... but that also could be because I was using sushi rice for the first time.

Hmm interesting I never would have done this before
Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: OneMoreRep on October 13, 2013, 10:00:37 AM
you give up on the bustin ass account  ???

bigmc,

"The Revelation" is actually an NPC national-level, heavyweight competitor, who due to contractual obligations has asked to remain anonymous. He is one of Ron's friends and I have met him before at a few NPC shows. He is as legit as it gets and will hopefully share some quality material regarding training, hormone supplementation and dieting.

I have to get around to facilitating his stars.

"1"

Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: The Revelation on October 16, 2013, 11:00:05 AM
bigmc,

"The Revelation" is actually an NPC national-level, heavyweight competitor, who due to contractual obligations has asked to remain anonymous. He is one of Ron's friends and I have met him before at a few NPC shows. He is as legit as it gets and will hopefully share some quality material regarding training, hormone supplementation and dieting.

I have to get around to facilitating his stars.

"1"



OMR, how are you my friend! ya, im like whos 'bustinass' and what kind of guy would want to be associated w a name like that anyway? :D

much thanks for the kinds words and the hype.

im familiar with this place- actually you'd probably not believe how many guys read this board and will not post- theresa shit ton of experienced guys who could add so much value to a discussion here that just arent brave enough to get in the water.

i hope to contribute a little more as time goes by.

but seriously, BC- get her thyroid checked out. cheers.

Title: Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
Post by: jprc10 on October 16, 2013, 02:49:59 PM
a lot of bullshit 'clean macros' and 'clean carbs' advise here. the fuck does eating 'clean' have to do with anything? eat less. period.

shes not being truthful about her cal intake. its thats simple. in that much of a deficit you have to lose weight. the whole 'metabolsim stalled out' is bullshit. servere enough deficit= weight loss. someone said eyeballing cals is the devil- bang on. that shit will sabotage you in no time. you'll be hungry all the time, and not losing weight. double fail.

also send her to the doc to get her thyroid checked. this could be a large part of not just her inablity to lose weight, but the reasonn for the weight gain in the first place.

as for diet, you cant make a normal person eat like us. it will not work. they wont count carbs and protein and cook foods outside what they know and stick to it. best way to get a non trainer sedentary person to lose weight is to cut out the garbage foods, run a deficit, and walk for exercise. diets dont work. lifestyle changes will.



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